Why is Iran building giant mock-up of U.S. aircraft carrier?
By Laura Koran
Amid ongoing high-level diplomatic talks between the United States and Iran, it's a symbol of underlying mistrust.
Commercial satellite images obtained by CNN reveal that Iran is constructing a large-scale replica of a U.S. military aircraft carrier, complete with fake U.S-style airplanes, near the southern port city of Bandar Abbas.
The mock supercarrier seems to have been modeled off of an American Nimitz-class (CVN 68) carrier, down to the number "68" painted on the flight deck, though its intended use remains a mystery.
According to one U.S. official, the mock-up is more akin to a Hollywood set than an actual warship.
The U.S. government does not believe the carrier is functional, or that Iran is even capable of building an aircraft carrier.
The same official told CNN's Barbara Starr that while the purpose of the fake carrier is unknown, Iran may be planning to destroy it in a propaganda move. The Iranian government has blown up target barges in the past and aired the footage on its state-run media.
"If this is all for strategic effect," noted the official, "then with all eyes on the construction that seems to fizzle."
Nimitz-class carriers are the centerpiece of U.S. naval forces, and the largest warships in the world. Few countries have nuclear-powered carriers in their fleets.
The revelation that Iran is constructing this mock carrier comes at a potentially pivotal moment in U.S.-Iranian relations.
Back in November, negotiations between Iran and a coalition of countries that includes the United States brought about an interim agreement over Iran's nuclear program. Iran agreed to roll back parts of the program in exchange for an end to certain economic sanctions.
Negotiations on a larger deal are ongoing.
On Thursday, in a message to the Iranian people to commemorate the Persian new year, President Barack Obama said he is "committed to diplomacy" with their country.
But amid the softened rhetoric, there is lingering mistrust in both countries.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the American Jewish Congress in New York on Wednesday that she is "personally skeptical that the Iranians would follow through and deliver" on the November deal.
And in January, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told CNN's Jim Sciutto that the Obama administration has been mischaracterizing the terms of the agreement.
For now, the outcome of these diplomatic efforts and the fate of the fake aircraft carrier remain uncertain.
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good time everyone.that career is part of a film about iranian airbus flight655.Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes.
for more info visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Iran-North Korea
axis of evil forever
Is Iran and North Korea any more "evil" than the U.S, and it's crony European "allies", koreanteen? Look at who invaded Iraq back in 2003 in which 1.2 million Iraqis perished!
Iran is Iran not north krea but don't forget that Iran is very reasonable from nk.
tragic as it was those persians took their money and ran
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty countries since world war 2.
In 1953 America overthrow Iran's democratic government Mohammad Mosaddegh and installed a brutal dictator Shah. America helped Shah of Iran to establish secret police and killed thousands of Iranian people.
During Iran-Iraq war evil America supported Suddam Hossain and killed millions of Iranian people. In 1989, America, is the only country ever, shot down Iran's civilian air plane, killing 290 people.
In 2003,America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ innocent Iraqi people and 4,000,000+ Iraqi people were displaced.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 22 trillion by 2015.
Except Islamic terrorist are to blame for most of those deaths. When they are too afraid to identify themselves and use the general population as human shields, unfortunately innocent people die.
so mr smith why dont you just move to iraq o iran, where do you really feel the safest?
Persians and Middle Easterners have been killing each other for thousands of years. They don't need our help to murder their own.
yeah just believe what ever coming out from west media.let me tell you what is propaganda.the real propaganda is that cnn foxnews ... are just saying that hey look iran is building a mockup like those northkorean missiles which all were mock ups".they just ain't mention that this mock up is part of a movie production about the 1988 shooting down of an Iran Air civilian plane by the USS Vincennes.. i am an iranian. i didnt come from space.our people just want to have a independent peaceful country.i dont care about government i care about the people around the world.we all want peace.just dont believe what ever media says.think about it. nobody has problem with 400 nukes of israel and you want to begin a war for that maybe one day iran make one single nuke? thats why greenday says : Don't wanna be an American idiot. Don't want a nation under the new media" đŸ™‚ think about it.think about that 1 percent who profit from wars đŸ˜‰
Well stated, ermia. Thank you.
You're quoting a crap band as a symbol of your intellect. That pretty much says it all.
This is why the US doesn't want Iran to have nuclear power!.....it's no mock-up.....this is the worst case of disinformation since the Iraq WMDs
Thank you, Steve. I fully agree.
If this aircraft carrier is anything like the Iranian "destroyer" the greatest danger will be the fuel pollution it creates as it travels through the ocean. Its like a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters trying to write the works of Shakespeare.
How are they going to power it? The USS Nimitz in nuclear powered.
CNN does not even have to balls and decency to admit when it has turned in a propaganda machine.
The fact as it has been reported and confirmed by a movie production company in Iran that they are making a movie of Iranian airliner that was shot down by the US, and this is a prop for the movie....
So now you know, but hey feel free to believe all that you read in the media as it has not much of a factual value.
Come to think of if Eric, U.S. sailors shot down an Iranian airliner with 269 people aboard making a pilgrimage to Mecca back in 1988. Where was the outrage then? No one was ever held accountable for this murder either! Like JFK once said, life is not fair!
Greg- Get back with us when you actually know the definition of "murder"...
Since they cannot even make their own light bulbs, that would be top secret.
The Iranian warship aircraft carrier is only about two-thirds the length of a typical 1,100-foot-long aircraft carrier. it is state of the art and will be equipped with the most advanced technologies. it is not a mockup due to its size and number 68 is not a trade mark number and can be used by any person.this will be the first one many Iranian aircraft carries that soon will join the Iranian naval forces.
Hopefully you're right, Do Not Cry. It would be great to see someone strong enough to stand up to those bullies in Washington and London! These clowns act like they own the rest of the world!
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Why spend billions to build a mock-up?
After scanning for a little while, I think I found it in progress in Google maps. Looks like a trestle structure. Maybe to hold up the facade and nothing more. Good enough to launch missiles at.
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.0541471,55.9731424,495m/data=!3m1!1e3
MAYBE we are building another one, US is known for shipping all our companies abroad because of the cheap labor, so yeah maybe iranians are building it for us, its business right, even with your enemy business makes deals if the price is cheaper, those super rich people do not really care about people
What a pathetic attempt at a super carrier hahah
One word: practice.
Practice? Practice? We talkin' bout Practice? Practice?
It is obviously a birthday gift for Obama. You news guys gave up the surprise.
I think the explanation is much less sinister that seems to be and it might have to do with a movie that is being made about the downing of the civilian plane Iran Air flight 655, but that was shot down by a missile from Vincennes but not by Nimitz?! The mock up is supposedly being made as a set in the movie.
cgi and/or models are a lot cheaper if you're just shooting a movie, and this "mock-up" doesn't even look right, with the rounded-off corners of the flight deck. you can buy more convincing scale models in a toy store.
what you can't do with a model is plan and practice for an attack on a real carrier. and iran has threatened to attack the american fleet in the gulf.
Hey, Mr. Obama
How are you doing on dismantling Iran's nuclear program? How about removing chemical weapons from Syria? You ROCK Mr. President...
Frankly, you're then one that needs to be dismantled. Starting from that neural tube.
Although I am not a big Obama fan, the greater danger to this country comes from people like yourself, with barely two synapses to do your thinking.
False flag attack!
They are going to show it being blown up and sell the video of Iran defeating the U.S. to Fox news who will believe it really happened and get Rush to condemn Obummer.
Anyone find it amusing the writers last name is Koran?
LOL...good point
Iran's first domestically built destroyer was launched in 2010 and people think they can build a carrier...unlikely. Even China buys old Soviet carriers vs attempting to build their own. Here's the actual google map grid: 27.055305, 55.972643. This dry dock is quite a distance from the water but it is on a ship launch. The frame for the carrier is like the object in the goggle image (ie it is the same length) so it is most likely a mock up and not a real carrier.
That's a jewish name you moron. by the way "koran" is not iranian is arabic...again emphasing your moronic comment. Seriously why are iran-related fake jewish news articles such a magnet for cretin.
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Does CNN and USA not know we have google earth? show me one yellow crane in that area. It is another lie for world bullies USA to plan another invasion for oil and gold before their economy collapses.
Google Earth is not real time and has several months, sometimes a year, old data. If you don't believe me go outside and wave and I will see if I can see you.
Right on CW. Why doesn't Amanda use google maps to tell us wher flight 370 is?
can you post the carrier coordinate/location you checked on Google Earth?
As I mentioned above, I found the coordinates in Google Maps that seems to match up with the photo at the top of the page. It's much earlier in development.
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.0541471,55.9731424,495m/data=!3m1!1e3
Interesting; the cranes are painted yellow in CNN image, but in a link you posted, they are unpainted, but they are there!! I think Iran did it intentionally to attract people.
radarshadow370 went towards Iran. He was cleared to Barcelona,route Iran.
let's recall Pal- harbour wen we were cought off guard, that's wat Iran is doing .
I'll repeat for those of you who might have missed it: people like yourself are a greater danger to the US than any foreign threat. If you could actually use that grey matter, that would be a boon.
Hit them now the world must be reminded of our military might and our willingness to use it. There is blood in the water and sharks are coming in.
It's not fake, It's the USS Obamacare. it just does not function.
Rather like your brain...
Wanna know? Ask them, state-run CNN.
Is this cardboard box big enough to hold Flight 370?
I = IDI OT, R= RET ARD , A= AS HOILE , N= NURD
IRAN IS A TERRORR SPONSER EVIL KILLERS HELPING HIZBOALLAH AND SYRIAN WHO KILLED MORE THAN QUARTER MILLION PEOPLE IN 2 YEARS AND KILL 1 MILLION IN IRAQ
helping hamas and hizboaldawa in iraq and attacking israel bringing weapons to hamas and hizboallah to bahrain and other countries.
Wash your dirty mouth when you are talking about IRAN! Just an idiot may use such words about IRAN. How many indians you killed to take their lands? May be you feel sympathy with israeli zionists because they did so.
Maybe is not a mockup, stupid.
To use as practice in how to attack a real one. duh.
Over 1300 responses and nobody is even close to the mark on this one.
The faux carrier is for a real movie being produced in Iran called Persian Gulf Rim. It is about a large Kaiju named Ayatollahzilla and a mechanical Jaeger called the Twelfth Imam who emerge from the Shiaverse to defend Iran from the forces of the infidel west.
Quite true Dr Hattier, quite true. I'm sick and tired of all these right-wing idiots here vomiting out their anti-Iranian ignorance on this web page and just shut up!!! Why are these people not ashamed? I would be!
Sounds like a very HAIRY movie.
my guess is corrupt Iranian regime is trying to justifying military spending by building a fake aircraft carrier, while depositing money in foreign bank accounts, genius, eh!!
Is it for Iranian Mardi Gras?
Iran want to show their ability to make it real in the future
Iran caught one of our drones without firing a shot. Who's to say they can't build a big ship?
Because America has a fake president.
Yet they find it difficult to even make the simplest of things, such as a light bulb. Keep trying, though.
The CVN 78/79 is the replacement for the Nimitz class. If you are going to do a mock-up, try to keep up with the times. And yes, AC Carriers are still essential for our military. Project military power throughout the globe, has free-electron weaponry, ESSM, RAM, Phalynx, and the carrier battle group is extremely formidable. And don't forget the jets.
Because America has a fake president....
perheps to practise a take over by boarding ? or to devate our initel study from there vast underground military complexes!!!! hint....
And you are stupid, yet are able to use this marvelous technological device to post your imbecility for all of the world to read.
Why does the U.S. build real aircraft carriers ? What are they up to ?
Won't it be great when the world runs out of oil? Soon as it does, nobody will give two nickles about the middle east. We only care about what happens there because of oil. They only have money for idiot things due to oil. Of course we could slap solar panels on nearly every house and business in the US and say P on oil but some billionaires in the US cringe at the idea of not becoming zillionaires off our backs.
It has n othing to do with the oil. We have some of the biggest oil res. in the world right in our back yard. It has to do with control.
It's going to be a full on training center for al queda to know exactly what to do when they are on sea and anchor detail through the Suez transit. You thought Somalis were brazen, wait until a few fishing vessels
cripple the entire 6th fleet command in transit.
Really? You actually think a Carrier is unable to defend itself. A lot of people think that fighters are all a Carrier has. But they have other weapons on board.
As well as every single Service man and woman on board. They can try to take it or blow it up but I doubt it will happen in my life time.
I'm with you. I'd like to know exactly how a handful of Iranians are going to overthrow all 3000+ trained service personnel aboard and sink the ship.
I take it you have never been in the military of this country....the responses to your post will help enlighten you I would hope
Not surprised! What do you expect from a regime that the infrastructure of it is based on lies !!!
Because they don't know how to build a real one
Iran is a spoiled child, needing/wanting attention : It worked, a la M Putin ! !
Iran is a spoiled child, needing/wanting attention : It worked, a la M Putin.
Why is Iran building giant mock-up of U.S. aircraft carrier? Propaganda purposes.
They are building it so they can train their drone aircraft.
C'mon everyone. This is CLEARLY a message from Iran to the US: "We're building a mockup of one of your carriers so we can test a new weapon against it."
1) They don't care if our satellites see it at all. If it was anything secret it wouldn't be out in the open in dry dock.
2) This has absolutely nothing to do with building a nuclear reactor or nuclear anything. Get a grip.
3) They clearly paid much more attention to unimportant details like the paint job and markings on the deck than getting the actual SHAPE of the flight deck correct (it's way off)
Given these facts, this mockup is either a full sized target or a movie set.
They are building the USS Obama.
They're making a life-size version of the game Battleship.
..Iran is going to make movie about how they destroyed the entire US Navy.........
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..................its a comedy.....................
It is actually a love story.
Yes it's about a movie. But the movie will tell the sad story of the Iranian Airbus brought down by the US Winsense back in 1988.
US Winsense?
Parade your ignorance for the world to see, imbecile. This is good. It means people don't need to waste their time reading your ignorant drivel.
Because they can sell it to the Pentagon for $50 million. In fact, they are building 2, may keep one.
so iran makes a better drone than america did (the ambassador of death) and tested some new long rang radar evading missiles they made and still the U.S cant believe that they can make a carrier . carriers have been made long before microprocessors and some how it would be inconceivable that they can make one . its a big boat with a air strip on it . 10/1 if they can build the hull the damn thing works
this is why america is losing . it underestimates every one else . how was that bay of pigs (the only real fighting in the cold war) and korean war and vietnam . is the war on terror over the cia has said repeatedly that the terrorist only number a few hundred and they blow them selves up and you detain thousands so its over right no more terrorism globally because you stomped it out in iraq and afganistan right ... oh you didnt . you couldnt handle some rag tag team of terrorist that doesnt even have central leadership ?!?!?!?! well at least the united states can defend its own in libya right...
I wont speak to the second half of your email because you are rambling but its actually pretty funny you think a Nimitz-class Aircraft carrier is easy to build. They operate as an entire city. Anyway, you seem angry so hopefully your day goes better.
sorry for all that rambling jibberish. i hadn't taken my meds today. i'm feeling much better now.
You need more than drugs to help you my friend. đŸ˜‰
Yeah, an aircraft carrier is just a "boat with a runway". LOL. Dumbest thing I have seen posted on CNN today. An aircraft carrier doesn't have an extremely sophisticated catapult system, highly sophisticated radar guidance systems, arresting gear for jets to land, an onboard power plant, etc, etc, etc...
You are right about one thing, Iran is capable of building "a boat with a landing strip on it" it is just too bad that no jets will ever be able to launch or recover off of it and it will be good for absolutely nothing than collecting rust.
Sorry, but Iran can't even make a light bulb, the simplest of all technology. All you can make are toy whistles and flutes.
to give us a practice target?
"Why is Iran building a fake U.S. warship?"
Because Pres Obama is building a fake military?
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............still running against Obama...................................pathetic
G bites the big one
Man those are some pretty good satellite images. Wonder why we keep getting blurred blobs of who knows what we see pictures of what might be pieces of the missing Malaysian plane. They can read a number on an aircraft carrier but can't see if a piece of debris is an airplane wing?
beaurocrats
Those are OUR pics of the "carrier". The Malaysia pics are not ours.
disgruntled_girl, first off, they are not pictures, they are images...second off both images came from a sensor called Digitalglobe which is commercial imagery based out of Colorado...soooo technically the images of the "mock up" and the missing plane are oursss
Iranian aircraft carrier just is part of decor a film
Movie named : (The Airbus) about Iranian Airbus passenger in 1988 that crash landing by USS Vincennes
Movie directors: nader talebzade & Paxton
You mean the Airbus that was hiding an Iranian fighter in it's shadow to get it past radar and sneak attack an American Destroyer? That Airbus?
exactly
You are disgusting to blame Iran for us shooting down their civilian plane. Your parents must be animals.
That was Vincennes, but this is mock up of Nimitz. Not that everything's they do makes sense,but does this make sense?
Hello....,Beni Your speeches are right.I like it souch this words...: Get a life people, you will never win, a freedom loving democracy will always win.
When they go ahead with the plan to stage some fake event with this toy boat 1/3 world will laugh...2/3 will believe them.
I know I will be.
Looks like their latest addition to legoland.
Target practice. Iran has no intention of stopping their goal of a functional nuclear weapon.
If you had a nuclear weapon, the last place on earth you'd use it on would be an aircraft carrier. That would be the most monumentally stupid thing possible. But I suppose to a half wit numbskull like you, this level of stupidity come naturally.
which futaba radio are they using....
This is almost as bad as the made up story about Flight MH370 that never existed....It is cheap propaganda and fabricated lies from Obama Administration....Don't believe ANY of this RUBBISH The Iranians are not stupid...BTW It's a prop for an Iranian/US film about flight 655.
Wouldn't it make more sense to build a replica of the U.S.S. Vincenne? Since that is the ship that actually shot down IR 655. I'm not siding with either group, but it seems like a waste of money, by Iran, to build a replica of the U.S.S. Nimitz when CGI would be cheaper or a model of the U.S.S. Vincenne would be more practical.
The only lies being told are the ones you and your GOP pals and their Tea Party CULT friends are spreading. Stop blaming Obama and everyone else for the problems you bring on yourself. Try taking credit for your own misfortunes and maybe you will see a change for the better in your life. According to the last 2 elections, more than 2 thirds of this country disagrees with your overall points of view. Stop spreading LIES....you lost the elections....GET OVER IT and tell your GOP party of corruption to do something to help this country instead of stopping it's progress.
You are clearly mentally ill.
billbfit – what an incredible comeback! No wonder you're out of work.
The ship which is a mock-up of a U.S aircraft carrier is part of a movie project called "Airbus" which narrates the story of Iran Air Flight 655, which was shot down by U.S navy in the Persian gulf with 290 civilians on board including 66 children, in an effort to put pressure on Iran to sign a cease fire with Saddam Hossein (Then a US ally) who had initially invaded Iran but was losing the war.
You're right. Its for a blockbuster Iranian movie about the Airbus shootdown. Reagan added insult to injury when he not only refused to apologize, he only offered enough money to pay for the Airplane, but no money to the families of the dead passengers. He even gave the USS Vincennes commander a promotion.
The Vincennes – helo was fired upon in international waters by an Iranian gun ship. The u.s. pursued the gun ship into Iranian waters. Iran initiated the attack. Reagan paid over $216,000 per victim. It was a tragedy but Iran is to blame for initiating it.
thank you barney,for your kandor......................
i used the k in place of the c for a reason.
General Bush would have taken care of it. How dare the Iranians!
awww ur so awesome I mean lets IGNORE 6 YEARS OF our current pres and talk about bush OH HOLY LEMON SQUAres ur so onpoint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My silly guess is that the faux carrier will be towed out to sea and be used as a target for some new anti-ship missile battery and its associated radar acquisition/tracking system.......Again; just a silly guess.
So Iran has a hobby of making model air craft carriers, they're simply trying to one-up the North Koreans....next.
The N. Koreans have been launching lots of short rockets into the sea. My hope is that no one is keeping count and they will exhaust their supply. Then the glorious leader will have to be told. N. Korea will raise the white flag and the glorious leader will be exiled to a farm and grow vegetables.
It's a bit disturbing to see Russia, North Korea, and Iran forming a communist triangle around the European continent. All of which are refusing to progress into democratic types of nations. I could foresee a communist takeover attempt at some point in the future. Especially since all 3 countries are prone to taking things by force and have or are trying to get nuclear weapons.
I guess you don't realize that Russia, North Korea, and Iran aren't even on the European Continent let alone actually surround it.
I don't understand why this story would be released to the media. This story should've been classified. We just gave our non-allies a chance to give us the perfect excuse, and therefore we loose intelligence.
Let's have Speilberg create a fake spaceship that blows up their fake carrier. hahahaha!!!!
I loled đŸ˜€ , and i'm iranian
Its like masturbating on a celebrity picture because in no way you are getting it in real.
propaganda to fool the population into believing they are building a force to fight the west..people in this part of the world lack basic education..but are attracted by 'images'..
What?!! "people in this part of the world lack basic education" Do some researches about it and then post a comment here!
Education is top priority of almost all Iranians! for instance about 3 million iranian students enrol in universities every year. (and about 60% of them are women)
When you have no idea about education level in Iran, please be quite!
Yes, they are probably better educated then we are.
When he says "this part of the world" he's talking about United States. And he's right. Basic education in the US is inferior not only to the entire Western world, it is inferior to most of the rest of the world. The US ranks near dead bottom in basic math and science education worldwide. 60% of Americans believe the Noah and the flood story to be literally true, and the earth to be 6000 years old. And I'm willing to bet he is one of them.
please be quite!
oh really...maybe you should start with yourself... I'll give you a hint.. it's spelled quiet...
Mr Joe! Instead of being offensive and correcting my word ( you corrected the autocorrect of my laptop though!) study more about Iran and Iranian people. Let's put all media propaganda away and judge fairly! Majority of Iranians love Americans and I am sure most of Americans like us too but underestimating other countries is much more offensive than spelling incorrectly!
I also have to say that knowing english is irrelevant of your educational level! I'm Astrophysics PHD student and I might spell "quiet" wrongly, what about you? do you mind if I ask you what is you educational level? Also other than my first language, Persian, I can speak English, Arabic and Spanish. what about you? do you know any language other than English?
I'm not sure about educational level of other middle eastern countries (i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc...) but underestimating other countries is so offensive! Please think about it!
Needless to say that I'm sure that not all Americans judge others like you and I respect all of them.
Cheers!
'Do some researches'
Argument FAIL.
So, if your education system is so good, how come you still can't even make your own light bulbs?
Another argument FAIL.
Cargo cult?
Might be a training mock up for an operation to hit a carrier in port. The objective: the nuclear weapons locker.
Good idea for Marine security groups to have heavy weapons and backup very close by.
Exactly what I was thinking. Depending on how accurate it is, it could be very useful as a practice target.
The irony is this carrier class basic design was conceived over 39 years ago. What the United States designed and built 39 years Iran still can't design or build today. All they can really do is blow up a fake design, which seems hilarious.
Actually, their first mockup carrier was a blow up version, but it developed a leak.
fk iran
fk Iranian regime. I am an Iranian
It IS a real ship. Iran intends to sail it in the same area as the REAL USS Nimitz at night, in the hope of luring in an unsuspecting US pilot. It's diabolically simple. Jerry Bruckheimer, producer.
Doesn't make sense. It is much cheaper to make a propaganda movie with computer simulations and some footage of the real Nimitz than build a full-size mock-up. It does make sense for training pilots to attack aircraft carriers, but I don't think Iranian leaders can be that delusional.
Let's vote for Obama again.
Well, we voted twice for Bush. Nothing much seems to change. Quoting Marge Simpson, "I fear the unfamiliar".
You cannot hide it anywhere Maybe it's for training.They could be learning how to board one like pirates.
A missing 777 and full scale mock up of an aircraft carrier, coincidence? Not likely
Hmmm.Interesting point.
Do you know how to spell paranoia?
I was once called insane in the early 70s for thinking that terrorist would use a plane with a bunch of passengers as a flying bomb. This was when I was looking at the Pentagon and had picture of that happening. Guess what?
Finally! somebody understands..
Sorry, but yes it is. Neither can have much to do with the other. It is not like the plane could land or take off from it. And I am sure they new the carrier mock up would not stay hidden for long either.
What a waste of money and resources!
Why would a terrorist nation build a mockup of a nation's air carrier? To have a party? No, to find the ideal places to place bombs to blow it up.
You are the terrorist nation my friend.
Unless the mockup has all the structural capabilities of the original, blowing it up does nothing. Real ship has many water tight compartments, emergency pumps, the ship is designed to take hits and not sink. And let's not forget when the Cole was hit with the suicide bomber, even with the large hole in the side, the ships crew, well trained in disaster management, saved the ship. Same for the carrier, ships crew well trained to work on damaged areas.
Couldn't they just "google it"
Maybe its a set for the filming a Bollywood movie : )
Yep. It's a remake of "The Final Countdown."
Not likely. Not enough trees.
I'm sure if there was any concern, it wouldn't be on CNN, and it would be classified.
The US is so full of itself. We aren't the only ones that can construct things like this, nor conceive of things. We completely underestimate the abilities of other nations.
Mike, Mike, it's a fake.
yes, thus the sarcasm in mike's last sentence.
Actually that is not true. Very few nations can construct an Aircraft carrier like the United States can. All of those nations that can are United States allies. Even Russia is only able to construct what amounts to an Aircraft carrier designed to carry helicopters and that was commissioned in 1991. They sold an aircraft carrier to the Chinese and are attempting to modify it to carry jet airplanes that can launch and land on the aircraft carrier deck, but it is actually still being tested.
The United States has been operating carriers since the twenties. The Brits did it first but the experience and the ships the US built during WWII made the US Navy the most experienced and successful operators of carriers in the world.
The carrier battle group has been the premier power projection platform ever since WWII. The US Navy has been operating carriers in Cold and Hot war situations and no enemy has come close to getting even a piece of one. The last carrier lost was the Bismark Sea during the invasion of iwo Jima in 1945.
The difficulty in operating carriers is primarily the expense. Very few nations have the ability and heavy industry to build the ships, power plants and air groups.
The cost of a new Nimitz class carrier is close to $14 billion and the annual operating cost of the carrier is $2.6 billion a year. But that's only part of the cost. A current US carrier group consists of Aegis class cruiser (1), Aegis class destroyer (1 or 2), one or two LA class fast attack submarines, & fast supply ships. The costs of training and maintaining a single carrier group would bankrupt most small countries and some large ones. Freedom isn't free, but IMHO we as a country spend too much money on our military which is estimated at more than the next twenty nations combined! I think we can restructure our military to fight and win wars of the future at less than we are spending today. The US is already building ships to fight unconventional wars with fast littoral capable vessels which can carry special ops and support aircraft. We already have the finest special ops trained military in the world.
No Mike, you are just silly. It is not a matter of being smart, or having enough ambition and know-how. It is about the massive amount of resources, money, and tech. There is a reason there are only a few countries with them. Because they are very hard to build without bankrupting your country. If they were easy, there would be dozens of countries with them.
Realization of American dream!
No, its a dummy for target practice, to explore weak points on the ship based on its infrastructure and defenses.
It may very well be used in propaganda movies when destroyed – to show the public Iran's ability to defeat a massive American naval force.
Smoke and mirror propaganda for the consumption of the ignorant.
Kind of reminds me of the "fake village" scene from "Blazing Saddles".
SOME-body's gonna have to go back and get a s###-load of dimes...
If it looks like the set of a movie then it probably is the set of a movie - if you think about it in Iran-movie-land the bad guys are likely to be us just as we use a plethora of generic Arabs, Iranians and other shady types as bad guys in our movies.
As for the Iran and bomb thing (Chuck) building a weapon isn't that easy - plutonium is nasty stuff to work with, its extremely poisonous (and radioactive, of course) and it catches fire in contact with the air. So you have to figure out how to machine it (not easy) and then you gold plate it to stop it catching fire. It degrades in storage so you have to continually rebuild your weapons.
Actually getting the stuff to explode properly isn't easy either. You have to compress it into a critical mass and at that exact time you spray it with some neutrons from a trigger device to start the reaction going.
There is a reason why WW2's Manhattan Project used a sizable chunk of the US's GDP.
plutonium is only pyrophoric when finely divided. it does corrode easily in air however.
This is old, but a bit more alarming:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/03/video-iranian-drone-buzzes-u-s-aircraft-carrier-in-persian-gulf/
My inside sources tell me its for a "Death to America" theme park, on the order of a Universal Studios type thing.
That's what I was thinking. How many people would pay big bucks to have their picture taken having dinner on board a U.S. Air Craft Carrier ? Has Putin purchased his reservation in advance ?
The 'Captain America: Winter Soldier' film is coming out soon. If they wanted to threaten Hollywood's special effects prowess, why did they not build a full scale 'heli-carrier' set instead?
I'm so glad we eased up the sanctions on Iran. Mission accomplished!
If this is the best they can do, then yet it was.
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Producing Mustard Gas for War is a 1917 technology.
Producing Atomic Bombs for War is a 1945 technology.
Product Nuclear Powered Supercarriers for War is a 1975 technology.
Yes, the third one is harder to acquire or build.
The leaders of Iran are not stupid. They have learned the hard lessons demonstrated by the other two members of George Bush's moronic Axis of Evil.
– Where is Saddam Hussein Today without Nuclear Weapons?
– Where is Kim Jong Un Today with Nuclear Weapons?
All the Iranian people have to do is turn on the TV and watch what is happening to Ukraine.
To drive home the point of why they think Nuclear Weapons will make them safer.
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Kim Jong Un has nuclear weapons... just saying.
He hasn't been hung, that is the point. Iraq was invaded and the government overthrown while nothing has happened to North Korea despite genuine aggression on the part of the PRK.
you sure they do? You seen the classified reports? The US acts as if they do and the Koreans agree but nobody has seen them nor has there been ANY real proof except for some test underground that the Russians said produced no detectale radioactivity.
But then Shrub Jr and Condy and Dick were 100% sure Saddam had "weapons of mass distraction" too. Same as how USA is oh so sure Iran is "building the bomb". Seems Reality is NOT on USA side. SO far USA is battling 0 and hasnt produced ANY real evidence. How long should I wait for the fabled Iraqi weapons to turn up? Oh I forgot, they were moved to Syria.
the ship is for training!! or to test aircraft.
N. Korea still exists because they're in conventional artillery range of a huge population center: Seoul.
No other reason, sorry.
It is in fact the new BAKLAVA Class Iranian Super Carrier: – capable of the launch and retrieval of high tech, fighter / bomber, all-weather flying carpet squadrons with the ability to defensively deploy heat-seeking kebabs against any American threat...
Baklava – isn't that a pastry made of phillo, honey and nuts? Had it while in Greece.
To see if they could?
Bizarre.
"We blew up a US aircraft carrier. See, the US isn't that strong!"
"The US attacked one of our ships with this aircraft carrier and we have pictures to prove it."
I am sure that this film would make spaghetti movies look like Oscar winners.
All these people are idiots. Instead of spending their time and money on coming up with ways to improve their countries, improve their education and economy, they spend all their time figuring out how to blow up the West. Get a life people, you will never win, a freedom loving democracy will always win.
a freedom loving democracy? look up operation ajax. deposing a secular, democratically elected leader and installing a military dictator with a notorious secret police that liked to 'vanish' people doesn't sound like what a 'freedom loving democracy' does. maybe thats why they continue to spend money on military projects, especially when BOTH their neighbor to the east AND to the west were both invaded and occupied b the same 'freedom loving democracy'.
Operation ajax? I'm pretty sure that is what my cleaning lady did in the kitchen yesterday.
Let's see. They are incapable of building an aircraft carrier but by god they know how to build all kinds of WMD.False logic.
What's makes you an expert?
Two physicists got together to see how easy it was to build a nuclear weapon. They were able to do so with only the tools and materials (aside from the plutonium and other explosive elements) that you would find in your garden variety workshop.
The only difficult thing about nuclear weapons is the nuclear material (which is what Iran is currently working on).
Building a nuclear weapon is far easier than building a super carrier.
It's the difference between building an AK-47 and building a space station.
as a physicist I can categorically deny the claim that you can build a nuclear bomb in a backyard shed with common tools, unless your tools are either million dollar CNC turning centers OR your idea of a nuclear bomb is 2 hunks of metal that get hot, then catch fire, maybe break up, and make a loud bang not much louder than a consumer firework.
saying that it is easy to build a nuclear weapon 'all you need is the uranium or plutonium' is like saying 'i could have been a doctor, it was just that science stuff that I couldn't understand'.
as far as iran trying to make special nuclear material, they dont have to make it. they were given enough weapons grade uranium for a bomb in the form of 2 cores for the tehran research reactor, by the united states, as part of the atoms for peace initiative. this was back in the late 60's. by the jibber jabber in your post this would mean they should have had the bomb several decades ago.
Bob, have you tried? You have no idea what can be done.
mike, i most certainly do know what can and cant be done. while MUCH of simple weapons design is well established engineering, it's still not the stuff you can easily do, unless you have access to tremendous resources OR you want to make a laughably inefficient device with low yield.
Thank you, Bob. I was afraid I was going to have to do that.
Chuck your challenge tells me that it's possible to strike a
bic-lighter beneath a pile of U-238 and form isotopes of
critical mass. Did your garden variety physicists know that
in E=mc2... C = light velocity?
Yes, it must be super easy as we only had to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to figure it out back in the '40's. Geez, we could have just done it in our back yard.
The mechanics of a nuclear fission device itself are pretty straight forward. In the simplest of terms, you basically need to be able to slam a small block into a larger block at a high velocity during free fall. The fissile material is the hard part. It has to be finely tuned to achieve the desired affect. That's where those millions of dollars went.
One really has NOTHING to do with the other. Being able to build either one in no way makes building the other one easier.
Iran is a spoiled child, needing/wanting attention : It worked, a la M Putin ! !
like they built a fake U.S.delta winged drone
Why are you asking us? Ask Iran . I am sure they would be happy to tell you .
Maybe they are filming an Iranian version of "The Final Countdown," a 1980 Sci-Fi about the Nimitz traveling through time.
SEE Mr. Romney!!! Iran does have it's own ports!!!! Maybe they need Syria for something else! >;)
They didn't build it for bombing practice; bombing a sitting duck is not like attacking a fighting ship shooting back at you.
It can't be for a movie; why spend the money buiding the thing rather than use stock footage or a few thousand dollars on CGI.
It must be for a propaganda demonstration of some sort, or they've just gone crazier.
Uh-oh. This is truly unsettling. I have a feeling their true intentions are to paint "Eat Me" on the side of it and enter it into the Faber College homecoming parade. Sure, it'll look like an aircraft carrier made out of cardboard, but the next thing you know....it's the Deathmobile! We need John McCain to lead the ROTC boys....Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave, I am LMFAO x3