Why is Iran building giant mock-up of U.S. aircraft carrier?
By Laura Koran
Amid ongoing high-level diplomatic talks between the United States and Iran, it's a symbol of underlying mistrust.
Commercial satellite images obtained by CNN reveal that Iran is constructing a large-scale replica of a U.S. military aircraft carrier, complete with fake U.S-style airplanes, near the southern port city of Bandar Abbas.
The mock supercarrier seems to have been modeled off of an American Nimitz-class (CVN 68) carrier, down to the number "68" painted on the flight deck, though its intended use remains a mystery.
According to one U.S. official, the mock-up is more akin to a Hollywood set than an actual warship.
The U.S. government does not believe the carrier is functional, or that Iran is even capable of building an aircraft carrier.
The same official told CNN's Barbara Starr that while the purpose of the fake carrier is unknown, Iran may be planning to destroy it in a propaganda move. The Iranian government has blown up target barges in the past and aired the footage on its state-run media.
"If this is all for strategic effect," noted the official, "then with all eyes on the construction that seems to fizzle."
Nimitz-class carriers are the centerpiece of U.S. naval forces, and the largest warships in the world. Few countries have nuclear-powered carriers in their fleets.
The revelation that Iran is constructing this mock carrier comes at a potentially pivotal moment in U.S.-Iranian relations.
Back in November, negotiations between Iran and a coalition of countries that includes the United States brought about an interim agreement over Iran's nuclear program. Iran agreed to roll back parts of the program in exchange for an end to certain economic sanctions.
Negotiations on a larger deal are ongoing.
On Thursday, in a message to the Iranian people to commemorate the Persian new year, President Barack Obama said he is "committed to diplomacy" with their country.
But amid the softened rhetoric, there is lingering mistrust in both countries.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the American Jewish Congress in New York on Wednesday that she is "personally skeptical that the Iranians would follow through and deliver" on the November deal.
And in January, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told CNN's Jim Sciutto that the Obama administration has been mischaracterizing the terms of the agreement.
For now, the outcome of these diplomatic efforts and the fate of the fake aircraft carrier remain uncertain.
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I hear that Revell plastic model kits of the USS Nimitz are also available in Iran. This is a national security crisis – time to shoot down another Iranian passenger jet.
So if somebody destroys Iran's mockup aircraft carrier, and they could tea-party it themselves, then they've mocked-up an excuse for going to fullscale war...nukes and all....they need only convince themselves–their own thralls...
Lighten-up. It's a prank. Those wacky, zaney Iranians. Stop it you nutballs!
It just looks like it on the outside. The insides will still be very different I'm sure.
Tell Israel. They are pretty good at shooting up American warships, so they can easily make a mistake and shoot up this one, too. Ooopsie!
It's a mock-up for training exercises. All militaries do it. And you bums calling for war make me sick. You're pathetic slobs who can't even get your own lives right so you want to ruin entire countries to make yourselves feel better.
Our Paranoia as a nation knows no Bounds! We will of course have to have a Cardboard Navy to counter theirs! Another trillion ought to cover it!
fools, everyone should take this seriously
having fake F18s can cause problems as they can probably load mini nukes to them and fly them over countries and military bases close and long enough to be undetected to do some serious damage
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Mini-nukes. And, where do they get these mini-nukes, from mini-mouse?
Slow down guys its for a movie....
Thats also what i heard....
Look you dikheads... It's for a movie. I'm the first assistant technical camera operator for the middle eastern team. The mock-up is supposed to be done by the end of May, and shooting will begin in June. So, pull your heads out of your politically-demented-asses, and save your money for a block buster movie.. which will star Bruce Willis and Robert De Niro... Stay tuned.
I call BS. What's the name of the film? Why is there no record of it in production... not even a script?
fools, everyone should take this seriously
having fake F18s can cause problems as they can probably load mini nukes to them and fly them over countries and military bases close and long enough to be undetected to do some serious damage
Does it fit in the average size bathtub?
fools, everyone should take this seriously
having fake F18s can cause problems as they can probably load mini nukes to them and fly them over countries and military bases close and long enough to be undetected to do some serious damage
For anyone interested to see how much of a simple mock up, look it up on google maps to see what it was earlier this year:
Enter these coordinates in the google map search box 27.054747, 55.972686
If those coords are correct the satellite picture must have been updated, not seeing any carrier. Buildings match up though, but look like they've been covered in soot.
You are all retarded.
It's Noah's Ark.
Hell yes they do! Navy Seals are the baddest and the best! Glad I'm on their side 🙂
Iran is feeling its oats! After thoroughly hoodwinking Obama and the Ketchup King (John Kerry) they are off to the races and will continue with provocative actions and of course development of a nuclear weapon. The sanctions were working and Iran was really feeling the pain but Obama and Kerry lifted the sanction and now Iran will have the bomb – facts are they probably already have the bomb and are just lacking a delivery system. To say Obama has been a disaster as POTUS – is the worlds worst understatement!
Had some paranoia flakes for breakfast this morning, did we?
Exactly!
I've been on the USS Nimitz twice as a civilian here in Seattle. Once before Sept 11 & once after. The first time it had all kinds of cool planes on the flight deck as well as nuclear weapons. The second time, not so much. But, security was crazy with Navy personnel on little boats armed with M16's circling the thing. It's a whole new world. I'm glad I got to see it the first time. It's pretty incredible how much power is involved there. Made me proud to be an American.
That's cool that you were able to visit the USS Nimitz, but I had to comment on one specific thing you said. There are NO nuclear weapons on board the ship. Bombs and missiles, yes. The ship is a nuclear powered ship, though. I was stationed on an aircraft carrier from 2000 to 2004, worked in the reactor department (where the nuclear reactor was) and then worked in another department that needed a higher security clearance. NO one was allowed down near the reactor, and even when sailors needed to go down for a qualification (ESWS), they went down to the main machinary room (MMR), no where near the reactor, and the reactor was shut down. We do not carry nuclear weapons on a carrier, and if we did, they definitely would not allow the civilian public to be anywhere near them.
Thank you for your service. I served aboard the USS America (CV66) from 1988-1992. With all due respect, I'm not entirely sure that you can lawfully state what you did and be truthful. I know I had to learn the following statement and to use it when asked if nuclear weapons were aboard the America: "I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons of any type aboard the USS America." To state definitively that there were or weren't any nukes aboard was against Navy regulations, and unless one was in Weapons Division (which encompasses all bombs, missiles, and fired projectiles aboard, whether nuclear or conventional) one frankly didn't know whether there were nukes aboard or not. As a proud member of the Engineering Department, I was simply not privy to that information.
The US Navy does not provide information on whether or not a certain ship is carrying nuclear weapons.
This has been an issue, especially with regards to New Zealand.
However, in the past, our carriers have indeed carried nuclear weapons, both as old-style bombs and more recently as cruise missile warheads. We might have also had nuclear-armed torpedoes in the past, but that's never really been verified.
In 1976 I was stationed onboard an Aircraft Carrier. I was on a working party that off-loaded nuclear weapons.
Internal security was set and no one, who wasn't part of the operation, was allowed in the hanger bay where
the bombs were being prepared for off-load. As you know, internal security, means Marines. They were
guarding the bombs, while we were moving the bombs.
Unless you had the clearance, you would not know if there were nuclear weapons on board.
If you had the clearance, you would know better than to be talking about them here.
I HATE to say it but at this point I'm beginning to question if this administration should be charged with treason. How much they are playing us is beyond obvious.
Iran is building a cardboard aircraft carrier, how do you draw the conclusion that th US administration is doing something treasonous?
Or are you an Iranian and you are talking about your supreme leader committing treason by building this ship?
RNC volunteers post these kinds of messages in here all the time and they always sound dopey.
No, don't hate to say it. In fact, I bet you were nearly giddy to find an excuse. If not, you would not have spouted that ridiculous line on a story like this.
Treason would be difficult, war crimes and crimes against humanity would be easy. The international criminal court has jurisdiction over nations unwilling or incapable of prosecuting their own leaders. We can prove US incapacity easily over the past 40 years because we can't prosecute anyone powerful, from bankers to politicians to police officers to the military to corporations. Whoa, time to get kicking.
It's a movie set. Abdul Seagal is going to kick fake SEAL ass.
iran made the comment via admiral that we are going to get a lesson. made the comment that an aircraft carrier was going to the bottom with 5000 american boys. that is the reason for the mock up. iran intends on doing just that. obama has lost respect of all world leaders. i pray navy isnt as stupid as potus. iran needs hit and made into parking lot now.wake up sheeple in america.
Yeah, Mr Genius, we are the sheeple alright. Those of us who don't want another war we can't afford. Those of us who are sick of American Empire building by bombing innocent people. Yeah – those people are so-o-o-o stupid.
He's only lost the respect of people like you who have never learned the word respect in your life.You are merely another parroting follower,devoid of thought on your own,so you spew the venom of others to compensate for your insecurity and immaturity.For a change,have you ever considered growing up and getting yourself a life? Or are you even capable of doing that? I have good advice for you in the mean time..why don't you simply STFU? We have heard this child's story numerous time before.Fix your broken record,clown and come up with something more original.
No secret. When completed, it will be Iran's tourist draw RESTAURANT featuring authentic American food.
This mock-up is the blue print of the real one to come up in the future!
And we will be waiting for you bearded,pajama clad sissies.We owe you one already.It will be Iran,not Isreal that will be wiped off of the map.Do the world a favor and go martyr yourself.
A trap for US Navy fighters – they think they're landing on the real carrier, but instead it's the fake one.
They have electronic guidance that directs them to their carriers. Not much chance. Ha Ha.
Maybe they will see a 72 yr.old virgin aboard trying to wave then in for landing.
Ask Edward Snowden! He will tell you the answer.
Edward Snowden will be telling you nothing.He has been too busy sharing his bunk with Putin lately.
The big issue is that we can not have bad relations with oil producers. Every day when we start our cars we are paying for the bombs and missiles that they will use against us. It doesnt matter if we boycott any particular country we are still enriching them by consuming oil.
So, who benefits from this ? Building it, Knowing about it ?
My wife Bobbin says it is not as long as it should be.
Sounds like one frustrated wife.
Only because the Iranians keep coming up short.
How about an egg plant – 8 inches long?
"Iran builds copy of U.S. aircraft carrier"...out of cardboard.
lol that's adorable...
Don't ever trust the Iranians! When China bought the unfinished aircraft carrier the Varyag from Ukraine, they said they planed to turned it into a floating museum or floating gambling ship. That was a complete lie. The Varyag was refinished by the Chinese and is now a fully operational aircraft carrier. From that single ship, they plan to construct dozens more.
Iran is likely building this mock-up for a future aircraft carrier battle group.
And what does any of this have to do with trust or mistrust? There are a total of 12 commissioned aircraft carriers in the world. The US owns 11 of them. By your nonsensical logic, the US is the least trustworthy country in the world.
There are more carriers than that. France, China, India and Russia each have a carrier capable of operating high performance combat jets from. Italy has two smaller STOVL carriers, the Garibaldi and the Cavour. Spain and Thailand have one each, Australia has two under construction, and the Brits have two large carriers under construction. India has another under construction and China has two more under construction.
But this Iranian thing is kind of laughable.
I forgot the Brazilians operate an old French aircraft carrier.
They're likely building it to film its destruction by blowing it up using whatever missiles they have to do the job. They'll run it on state TV and claim they've killed one of ours. There's an outside chance that the full scale replica will be towed out to sea and then targeted. Even if it's just a testing bed, the destruction will be broadcast as real.
Claiming to have blown up a real American carrier will immediately be proven false when the DoD points out that all of ours are still intact, and does not respond with an invasion and elimination of the current Iranian regime.
Ok 🙂
This is a bigger fail than their fake fiberglass stealth plane.....
They need a better photo background to place their fake stealth fighter. Fake plane on fake ship.
LOL I was thinking about that fake plane while I was reading this article!
Mock ship is meant to prompt the GOP into attacking Obama, again.
Its like rattling a cage with a stick the republicans become virile dogs foaming at the mouth when a superpower breaks wind. Obama can't catch a break if a perceived danger abounds and he doesn't ground check it.
No need to attack Obama. He's his own worst enemy. Only religious acolytes like him.
And what kind of nutcases worship the ground that Ted Cruz walks on? Very dangerous ones indeed.
US Navy kicks ass...'nuff said
Hay, wood floats.
Not Natalie,though.
How's that search for flight MH370 coming along? Yeah, thought so.
I guess I didn't realize that the U.S. Navy was in charge of the cluster F*** coalition for finding a plane that went missing in thousands of miles of ocean? The Navy was asked to help d!psh!t. But yes, the U.S. Navy is the best in the world. Guessing you would rather live in a third world sh!thole country.........By all means please go and don't come back moron.
Were awaiting Russia's help.Should be found in the next decade or so according to them.
This is Israeli propaganda. They are jealous of Crimea being the center of attention nowadays and want the US to show them support too. They can't stand the possibility of Iran stop being a threat, otherwise the US wouldn't cover their crimes against humanity anymore.
Time to adjust the medication
Just take another pill.
Just take another pill.
His meds can't block the sound of AM talk radio so what he really needs are earmuffs. No prescription for that I'm afraid.
Exactly.
Since your name is "the Bob", I am betting you are bobbing your head up and down on a stiff piece of male anatomy. Now please, go out into your garage and wash your mouth out with a shotgun.
NUKE IT.
eat it Penelope.
"....the purpose of the fake carrier is unknown...."
Only if you don't have a military background. Think training exercises. The Iranians are training their people up for taking out an American carrier group, and mockups are training aids.
"The Iranians are training their people up for taking out an American carrier group..."
I can think of way cheaper ways for Iranian sailors to commit suicide...
China better watch out ...Putin would just steal them and make them his own.
I was thinking the same thing, we made a mock up of bin laden's compound and the seals trained their for months... this is not good
You would need to simulate the rest of the carrier battle group(subs, frigates, E-2s, aegis defenses, etc) that would be encircling the carrier for it to really mean anything. Otherwise, drawing up battle plans to attack a lone carrier is rather pointless.
They will be martyred 15 minutes before they ever leave their airfields.
I can Imagine floating barges of hope delivering humanitarian aid to 3rd world counties... all being run by little yellow people with exotic eyes.
Probably a bombing target
Maybe 'the' bomb?
It's the heat, it beats down on their heads.....I guess it's what they do to keep busy day and day out.....I am suprised they managed to got enough plywood. Now perhaps if only had enough leftover to build PT boats.
After that busy day of work,they can retire to their homes to fornicate with their camels and sheep.They have no interest in women unless they are bearded.
So watcha gonna do with that battleship eugene? distribute a little world policing?
They are prepairing for this long scripted war,. This whole thing is a setup.
imitation is the height of flattery, oh darn!? ...I forgot ...I'm not in the nice universe am I?... oh dear...
Oh my. Gasp! Clutching my pearls. What next!!!
lol
They are remaking the movie The Final Countdown
Maybe they're using it to test missiles.
China also built a mockup of a US carrier in 2011 to test their anti-ship ballistic missiles. Perhaps Iran is doing the same, except that a realistic replica is being used for propaganda purposes at the same time.
The west should be cautious instead of laughing. Iran has a history of media showmanship but when it comes to the real fight, they are very good at it.
Good at what? Getting a shot in and then losing their whole navy in approx. 6 to 7 days.
By the way. No one is laughing
After America $4 trillion in Iraq, it is now a Iranian outpost.
Tell me that that wasn't a masterful Iranian move.
And after the US and NATO was backing Syrian al-Qaeda terrorists with all the support they could muster, it is Iranian paramilitaries and military leadership who are instrumental in Assad's current upper hand in the Syrian conflict.
Yes indeed mock them at our own peril. How about building it to test attacking a nimitz class aircraft carrier. Putting one of them on the bottom of the ocean would be a great political coup for the Iranians.
It's what would follow that, unleash the kraken would be an understatement that Carrier would become a symbol on par with Pearl Harbor the follow up will be..... We'll just say Not good for the responsible sinker.
Iran puts a aircraft carrier on the ocean floor and the US will turn Iran into a sheet of glass that glows at night.
Shooting at a mockup that doesn't shoot back is one thing. Shooting at a real US aircraft carrier that has an entire battle group for defense and huge offensive capability would Iran's worst nightmare. Israel would love it though. The next day we would take out all of Iran's nuclear facilities.
The grand finale would be the ICBM missiles launched afterwards by the US,Israel,and NATO allies on Tehran.I don't think that is the scenario they truly want to take place.
The news should be about the movie they are making instead of the set they are building for it. Instead of guessing what it's for send a email and ask them.
Now that's what I call wasting gov't money.
Be very afraid, It does have a fully functioning Flux Capacitor
Seems to me this would be a good thing 🙂 We know the weak spots 🙂 Much better if they intend to be allies.
Does this go with the mock up of the F-35 jet fighter they built recently?
You're speaking of course of Lockheed Martin.
Cute. My little boy has a toy aircraft carrier too.
So , isn't iran fooling the six minus one by faked nook?
It remind me the iraqis false wmd ?
Iran needs to tread lightly.Now,back to those sheep Mohammed! Don't step in any of it!
Obama is gonna have to pick a country to beat up on soon, just to save some appearance of being tough.
He's been getting slapped around pretty good, lately. Putin still isn't finished pushing him around.
Iran should paint a big red target on the deck of this thing... bet the Navy could hit it from 1000 miles, blindfolded.
So you want another Iraq or Afganistan? It will only cost at least $3 trillion (like Iraq) and a few thousand American live and a few 10K wounded, no big deal right?
Want? No way. Administrations like to be remembered as tough, and
this one is looking anything but, right now.
How is Putin pushing him around? He took a small piece of land that was already crawling with Russian military personnel. It would be like the U.S. annexing Trinidad and Tobago and calling it slap in the face for China.
Funny how the Republicons didn't say much or call Bush weak when Russia annexed the province of Georgia...
You are joking right.... Or just bad memory ... What all the D's that ran the the H & S do?
I'm really not interested in my President "looking tough." That's a silly neo-conservative stance, because all neo-conservatives think we live in some John Wayne western.
Send your kids if you are so passionate about being #1 in superiority. Pick up a gun yourself.
Why look tough when you can act smart? We saw how tough GWB was by going into Iraq and losing nearly 4500 American lives.Great accomplishment there.That was neither tough or smart.He thought he was going into Iran,but mistook that for Iraq,instead."Close enough by my spelling" he stated..
Although I am enjoying the comments, I would like to suggest that they are building the ship as a visual tracking test target for their satellites. And remember the Chinese have something called the DF-21 that is an anti-ship missile that uses satellite targeting.....
THANK YOU. I'm glad to see someone else out there has brains. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out. Of course, that lets out our CIA and NSA dodos.
That "intelligence" data was dispatched via Edward Snowden.
If they were going to "visually track" something with satellites why not just track the real thing?
They don't need to build a mockup to track a carrier. The USN has operated in the gulf for decades. The Iranians should already know what their tracking capabilities are.
Bet you a Buck it isn't for a Movie set. When the hell are we going to smack these suckers down?
Iran wants 'The Great Satan' to be provoked into doing something stupid.
They want to be the victim... They would have a planet full of sympathy.
America won't come out looking good on this one...
Iran's economy is the size of Massachussetts's economy. And yet we're sooooooo afraid!
Massachusetts hasn't been brainwashed for the last 1000 years to kill infidels that don't worship the same bedtime fairy tale that they do.
Really? We only just started selling beer on Sundays...
And the Salem Witch Trials?
Obama, mischaracterizing the nature of an agreement? Noooooooooo, it can't be
GWB never knew what an agreement was unless it was to order BBQ from a menu.
Is that to go with their knockoff GI Joe super fighter?
My inside sources tell me they are constructing a "Death to America" theme park, something like Universal Studios in Orlando.
...so they can land their fake 'modern' jet on it?
Iran is playing head game I never trust Iran since kidnapping in 1979 Let Iran kills itself they dont have much water to drink since their water source is polluted like China
Currently they are drinking from their urinals.
Does it float?
Israel can take it out in 5 minutes
Thank you sir, that's just what I was thinking.
Israel can't scratch it's balls without the US's hand...
Maybe it is for the next Mythbusters Duct Tape special.
Funny, these are usually South Korean Samsung tactics copying U.S. built products. The Galaxy Nimitz perhaps?
i hate samsung!!! Hopefully Apple does not make a bigger phone to look like the galaxy!!! I had a galaxy before and it broke when i dropped it!!! It is really cheap!!!
If Apple makes a bigger iPhone no worries, it'll be made a lot better then Samsucks.
Let's build a giant replica of Iran...
We already have one. It's called New Mexico.
ROFL! Good One
It looks more like Nevada.
Well...better cardboard than the real thing...
Maybe India contracted it for a Bollywood movie set.
they have a fleet of broken down F-14 tomcats Nixon sold them, they could put them on the flight deck and look menacing.
Smart move as they learned from the US who did the same. Now Israel would say the US should bomb Iran for coping the air force carrier. The fake story of Israel afraid Iran will build nukes is played out now that everyone all over the World knows Israel has hundreds of Nukes. Anything to get the US to go to War with anybody.
Uhmmm ... what is an "air force carrier"?
The difference is simple. Israel is not run by a bunch of religious whackjobs. Iran is. That's why the world doesn't want Iran to possess nuclear weapons.
ALL countries are run by religious whack jobs. If you're not a religious fool, you can't get elected.
Then why does it insist on being called a "jewish state"
Ummm, Have you ever been to Israel?...
Right on the money it's just that simple
Why would they go through all that effort to make a fake carrier? The US pushes propaganda just as much as other countries – if not more.
How about we target the fake carrier while it's under construction in Iran? We can tell the world that we thought some had stolen one of ours ships and that we were trying to prevent having any hut by it. Let's spin up the bombers and head for Iran.
Maybe we should practice/fake bombs?
UMmm let me see maybe there doing a movie and its has to have a US Air Craft Carrier maybe they just want to so they can all jump head first from a high platform who knows I'm sure there a reason and American is not just making this up.
So it's a real Carrier? NOT!!
They use fake when they detonate first nuke later in year.
I measured it, and although shorter overall, that runway strip is almost exactly the same length as the real Nimitz.
Just seem's a bit too much work and steel just for a simple missile test. Shooting a barge proves nothing, it lacks the US defensive systems that would cut that missile down like it's cheesewiz, while it's still miles out. .
That picture on the right is very clear not like the picture Australia provided the world of the alleged "plane" wreck.
Maybe they are making a movie.
Funny... Argo popped into my mind while reading this, lol. But what really got me laughing was the quote, "The U.S. government does not believe the carrier is functional, or that Iran is even capable of building an aircraft carrier." - They're refining uranium and are on the brink of becoming a global nuclear threat, but the US doesn't think they're capable of building a giant boat?
Go see "Noah". Giant boats are old news.
1LC: Best post for a long time! Good work.
it would be a good thing if they were trying to build a real Nimitz class carrier. the effort would soak up a grossly disproportionate part of their economy while giving them nothing in return, much as Soviet static air defense of the Motherland impoverished the rest of their military. carrier aviation and carrier-based naval warfare are far from easy. it took this country years to learn how to operate a carrier-based fleet, and we have far more resources than Iran. they don't have the industrial capacity or the kind of educated population required to support this kind of warship. even Russia, with far more national wealth and population, never really mastered the trick. I suspect that even the Iranians know they can't pull it off, and there is some other purpose in mind for the mock-up.
As of today, March 21, 2014, On Google and Bing Maps nothing shows up. Even if it did, comparing the size in the photo above (measured with Google Classic), the ship would be 670 to 680 feet long which is substantially smaller than the real CVN 68. (If you cannot find it on the maps, it is the wharf to the lower left of Bostanu, Iran)
How current are the Google and Bing satellite images?
Oldesalt – Are you saying Google and Bing images are not live? Cr@p! I stand outside and wave to my sister in Philadelphia.
Not nearly as current as US government satellite pics. CNN knows its happening when its almost complete. CIA knew when they ordered the materials...
Looks more like the shipyards between Tavanir Town and Bandar Abbas. There are two dry docks next to each other in the right arm of the shipyard. Lots of other naval ships there too. Nothing in the drydocks, and no cranes, but those are easily added. And in the left of the dry docks, the outline looks sort of like a carrier shape. Maybe early layout when this photo was taken?
Correct. The ship is about 2/3rds as big. Google earth is from around August of last year. you can see the beginning of the ship being built at 27.05480 55.972124 if you put that in google earth.
Satellite images available to the public (google, bing etc) are never quite up to date and they vary by location and zoom level. My house is 3 years old and on some zoom levels it doesn't show up at all and others it is under construction.
Iran isn't even capable of building an aircraft carrier. Persian have been around since the beginning of time! What went wrong?
Bacteria have been around for a while too
He's comparing one human culture with another, both existing for the same duration. This has no relationship to another life form.
Invasion of Hulegu Khan caused so much devastation the population didn't recover until the 20th century.
Iranians are not Persians, same as present-day people in Egypt are not the same as ancient Egyptians
They were all invaded and polluted by Islamists
didn't the iranians do a "mock up" of a U.S. stealth drone? HAHAHA
Coz they are allied to China, and China steals everything coz they do not have the capacity to build complex systems. So the systems are known and the U.S. will know how to ef it up.
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Chinese only steal ideas? Boom?!.. Without the Chinese you'd be scratching plans on cave walls (paper making), while trying to figure out where to go (compass), to throw your rocks & sticks at your "enemies" (gunpowder). not to mention mechanics, mathematics, metallurgy, astronomy, agriculture, music theory, and DELICIOUS FOOD!
Dont worry this is just being built for a rubbish Michael Bay Hollywood POS movie!
They'll float it out to sea, then nuke someone like Israel from a missile installed on the floating copied carrier, then blame it on the US for nuking someone. Probably nuke themselves and try to pin the blame on the US.
Iran has a lively movie industry, its probably a large set for an Iranian blockbuster film.
How about asking Iran that question instead of posting it on CNN.
the article clearly says why we are seeing this picture...
how about reading it first then asking questions
If it is clear, then why the question? Clearly you misunderstood the purpose of the article, and my sarcastic comment.
Karim, Karim, would the iranian gov't tell the truth? HA
Ok we'll ask
They're building to train for attack and possible scenarios in which it can be sunk in an attack. China and Russia process missile weapon systems that can take a carrier out up to 240KM away. Not surprised and surprises me is just how ignorant the US really is. Know thy enemy.
yeah cuz they will get close to one to attack it be sneaking up on it at night! OMG u r so brilliant! hugz...
anoterh dumb down simple minded american. go figure
describing yourself to others isnt too bright...
we can tell by your comment yor dimness
You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Aircraft carriers are never alone. They are always escorted by a battlegroup of frigates and destroyers. All of which have active anti-ordinance systems specifically to deal with such a threat. The only way you're sinking a carrier is by sneaking up to it in a zodiac and planting explosives on the hull (very hard to do) or by hitting it with a railgun.
I would say that with high probability that the U.S. knows what Iran is capable of and knows thy enemy. Start knowing thyself and think before ye posts again.
I spent many years in the Navy onboard a Carrier. We knew where the Iranian ships were at ALL times and often laughed about their silly antics. I remember when the Russians gave them a Sub and they ran it aground. Haha! If you think it's easy to get close to a super carrier and think it's completely defenseless when something DOES get launched against it then YOU need to do some research because I assure you that it IS NOT an easy task.
RIght, half-wit, because to practice taking it out with a missile, you need a precise replica, right down to the number painted on it.
My god, the comments just get dumber and dumber.
I know u could use a friggin barge instead of wasting time on a model.
If you are training to attack a structure -like, maybe, an aircraft carrier – don't you think it might be more important to have an exact replica of the INSIDE ? Just a thought.
Like the Somali pirates the CVN is going to be boarded, all personnel will hide out somewhere in the ship, while they take the com. Then the Maldive Navy will send out their SEALS to rescue the captain and the crew. It will make a good movie.
You missed the part about the idea Iranians cant build a replica. If they could, and lots of other capacities, maybe, just maybe, stretched as far as we can take it, it could be a minor problem. It is a non starter so they can talk about dreadful Iranians and how they threaten powerful us. What if they managed to sink one of our carriers? We have more, and an air force, army, and real nukes. Fearing the Iranians is hysterics, and has been for 20 years. It is a Vietnam generation obsession.
If the Iranians are going to use it for target practice, then where is the rest of the carrier battlegroup? Can they simulate the subs and ships that will be encircling the carrier? How about the E-2s providing radar coverage? Aegis? It's not as if there will be a lone carrier floating close to Iranian shores that they can freely take shots at it. It's like building a mockup of the Whitehouse for your war games. Absolutely pointless.
As a former Navy Electronic Warfare Operator who specialized in Russian and Chinese Missle systems, we are quite aware of their capabilites and how to fight them. Also no US Carrier is ever unescorted, they tend to be escorted by the most advance warships in the world which includes state of the art anti missle systems. Matter of fact most of a task force's picket ships are for one reason to protect the Carrier at all costs.
Thank you sir, the bottom line is the defense against these systems is at work in the everyday life of a carrier group and in the research industry. Whoever makes the attempt will pay dearly on the counter attack courtesy of air sea and undersea carrier group members.
hilarious...
I cant wait to watch Colbert and john stewart to show me how fox twists this into Obamas fault.
Well, they won't have to twist very hard because with an incompetent like your Dear Leader it would be far more difficult to twist it to Oboomba's advantage. But you don't mind being lied to, having your wealth stolen from you, having an incompetent as a president do you? And we both know why.
Ok, I'll bite. Why?
I know I'm tired of it. And I'm glad Bush is gone.
We all minded very much, half-wit. And we're still glad Bush is out.
Indeed. Thank God Bush is gone.
Well we were lied to, had our money taken away, and so on from 2000 to 2008. Why break with tradition?
i think what you meant to say is you cant wait to watch colbert and stewart twist it into fox twisting into obamas fault
... And it's fake because CNN said it was fake? What if the carrier is real?
apparently u didnt read the story, no where does cnn claim they determined it was fake
Uh, actually, genius, it's repeatedly referred to as "fake" in the article. What a 'tard.
Why dont you read the caption under the picture
Uh, right, dimwit. And what if a unicorn flies out of your rectum?
Surely you are either joking or you are 12 years old. Please don't scare me that there really are people out there who are so incredibly gullible (read stupid) that they believe you can build an aircraft carrier in a few months with a workforce of 7th grade educated soldiers and a bunch of plywood? Seriously? This barge with a Hollywood "aircraft carrier set" built on it, is mean't for the Iranian sequel to Top Gun – where the Iranian fleet of Revolutionary Guard Speedboats (complete with suicide bomber water skiers) attacks and sinks the evil American Carrier in the strait of Hormuz. What a waste! All that plywood could have been used to build " Iranian Disneyland" or Iranian Ice Fishing houses.
I think that most Americans don't realize that the Iranians are very well educated and sophisticated. Do not underestimate your enemy. t\that's a sure way to get a very nasty surprise. Remember the Cole!!! Took a bunch of "illiterate clowns zip to almost destroy an American War ship.
Clearly, you've never been to Iran. Iranians are neither stupid, nor ignorant (unlike many people who seem to comment on foreign cultures they have never visited). Understanding how to build complex, multi-billion dollar equipment, and having the money to actually do it, are two completely different subjects.
Clearly none of us have been to Iran, genius. Or we would be hanging by our necks from a some construction equipment in an intersection in Tehran – charged as spies.
Then it will be SUNK someday
Not saying anything about Iranian people they deserve better especially the younger generation.
I hope there is a "miscalculation or misstep" soon and we nuke the middle east and those commies in Russia back before there was a stone age.
Obummer will be that misstep?
we'll just watch and see.,
some crazy stuff will hit the fan
You sound like Sarah palin. Can you even define the word communism? How about socialism? And while you are at it do you even know the second amendment? I mean what it really says. Why are all Republicans so content being misinformed and ignorant?
FYI. The attack in Benghazi was not started by a video. The government DID use the IRS against those opposed to it politically. You may not keep your Insurance..or your doctor. Call us ignorant but what are you for supporting this President and administration? You're the rube.
Jesus Christ shut the F up about "Benghazi" already.
Freedom,
you are an f'ing id 1 0t. every competent investigation of benghazi has shown that it WAS carried out by local militia in response to the video and inspired by the violent response to the video in Cairo. in the recent IRS controversy, the IRS looked at both conservative and liberal political action groups, none of them were impeded in doing what they wanted while the examinations were going on, and only one group – a liberal group – was ultimately told that it did not qualify for the tax exempt status that it tried to claim. you are right that the IRS has been used against political enemies but the last real misuse of the IRS for partisan political purposes was by the Republicans under Richard Nixon. as far as the government is concerned, everyone could have kept their insurance. it was the insurance companies that decided to cancel policies rather than revise them to provide the kind of coverage required by the law. doctors are not slaves and are free to refuse seeing a patient if they wish. as to supporting this President, I have been more than a bit disappointed in his performance, but he is so much better than his predecessor that there is no comparison. even if the stupid Rethuglicans and TEAtards were not obstructing everything, it would take decades to even begin undoing the damage that George W. Bush, Richard (those who know him call him "Dick") Cheney, and Republican ideas did to this country.
"every competent investigation of benghazi has shown that it WAS carried out by local militia in response to the video and inspired by the violent response to the video in Cairo" That's not what the Senate Intelligence Committee's report said. It specifically connected it to Al Qaeda.
What makes you think the Russians wouldn't respond with an equal or greater number of nuclear missiles before ours arrive?
Why are we spying on them with satellite then posting images TO CNN ? No wonder no countries trust us
Everybody spies and more importantly not all satelites are us goverment owned and operated.
u were told why in the story...
perhaps read it and if u cant understand it have someone else read it for u and explain
No need to be an ass.. I did read it. I understand. . I'm not a complete idiot. I just don't see why the hell CNN is posting this. Is this really news.. who cares. They are just using it for propaganda themselves.
When I read under the caption "taken by a commercial satellite" I was thinking CNN found this image on Google Earth, I would expect that the US government would be able to take a better picture than this with the satellites above Iran.
Of course they can, and did, many months ago. It was Photographed, analyzed, and determined not to be a ligitimate threat way before CNN knew anything about it.
It isn't spying as such, the shipyard is in the open.
It isn't spying as such, the shipyard is in the open.,.
lmao you are so fkn dumb. google earth.
Whatever.. This is propaganda at its finest. I am not the dumb one here
I can watch or look at whatever I want. So can our govt.
I do not trust iran. they are up to no good.
I don't trust Diana Horton, she's up to no good.
LOL, Amen.
The pony tail almost makes you forget that Hillary is SOOOO old!! McCain was too old and so are you!! NOWAY2016
yeah cuz 66 is equal to 77! u must be a republican failing at that math again.
Perhaps it's for training use as a target? Something to teach their Republican Guard Holy Warriors or whatever they call those religious nuts, how to attack a big ship using a swarm of Zodiac style boats.
Uh, right, genius - you need a precise replica for that, right down to the number painted on it.
I wonder if Allah told them to do this?
Wow, guess ol' Mittens was right about Iran and Russia after ALL. Me and 50 % may have made the biggest mistake of US history.....
That's OK. Once we vote in another cowboy he'll go all jihad on them, as they anticipate.
Yea, what the heck. The last few wars we've fought have turned out so well, huh? You anxious for more? You go first, ok?
Huh? Get help, half-wit.
I guess when you have a pretend military, you have to come up with pretend adversaries to fight and win against, to fool your population.
Hillary just doesn't know which side she is on....... One of the biggest liar political figures of the last 50 years! Beware of this evil woman...
Let's see. reagan was a liar. Bush 1 was a liar. Clinton was a liar. bush 2 was a liar. Nixon was a liar. Johnson was a liar. See a trend here?
I hope more Americans have your insight.
....Wait !! ...Nixon was a liar ??!!!!!
Why, it's almost as if ALL POLITICIANS ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS! That's news to me said no one ever.
the difference between heresy (lies) and gospel (truth), all depends on who's listening at the moment.
Yawn.
Why a country that has perfect the flying carpet technology would want an aircraft carrier? The overhead just doesn't make sense.
When they show some fake propaganda that they blew it up, the US should attack them and say they blew up a carrier and demand compensation but not before taking out any nuclear work.
Although it would be reckless. And I am guessing you are joking. It would actually be the perfect excuse to blow up their nuke plants. What would the government say? We were lying to you about the carrier? Then folks would say they deserved what they got, for acting like we are that stupid. America DID bomb our plants because of what we did to their carrier? They would still feel like ... well... You DID blow up their carrier. WIN WIN
probably to take out to crimea, fake it, and start a war.
Religion makes people crazy.
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Yeah those nutty Jews.
Fanatacism makes people crazy, whether it's religion of God or religion of Science.
'Religion of Science'? Now that's crazy!
Rational deductive reasoning, otherwise known as science, stands in complete contradiction to faith based religion.
Faith means to believe in something for no good reason.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Religion of science! How can people be so dumb?
Nah "Just" Islam, all other religions are save