February 25th, 2014
08:16 PM ET
No bluff: U.S. planning possible withdrawal of all troops from Afghanistan
By Barbara Starr and Tom Cohen
We're not bluffing, the Obama administration told Afghanistan on Tuesday in announcing for the first time it has started planning for the possible withdrawal of all U.S. troops by the end of the year if no security agreement is signed.
Statements by the White House and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel showed President Barack Obama's impatience with Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai's refusal to sign the agreement that would keep several thousand American troops in the country after combat operations conclude this year.
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Mr. Obama I know how this is ended thank God you didn't do what you did in Iraq . What a mess the world would be in .
The time for us to leave is long passed. The true enemies of freedom and liberty, Vlad Putin and his cronies, ayatollahs, oligarchs, and other sub-humans have delighted in watching America bled white in the middle east. We need to bring our troops home, repair our stuff treat their injuries both physical and psychological and retool our military to do what it does best. Tear other big armies to little bloody shreds.
Had their been about three American armored divisions and twice that much infantry backed up by enough strategic nuclear ordnance to incinerate the world several times over as there was in 1960's Europe this mess in Ukraine would have never happened.
its payback time for USA
and the Russians are saying, "been there, done that"...
US have NO MONEY to keep those troops anywhere else besides working at Walmart and eaning their wage doing something worthy. The US doesn't have the resources to keep armies all over the world. Not only because we are not the world police, but because we HAVE NO MONEY TO DO IT!... Is funny to print dollars to pay for the army but that is hurting the US image and the trust of the world in our economy, in the US DOLLAR. We need to pull out NOW ! and have others pay to police the world.
We have as much as we need sahieb! Your mother has my boot in her face!
Karzai is just covering his behind. He knows Al Qaeda and the Taliban will return. If our troops pull out, they will be back to set up their training camps again and be free to plot the next attacks on America and our allies.
American,
You have the leadership you so richly deserve.
Keep on re-electing them.
People that live in glass houses should not throw stones!
The failure of the century. Nothing was learned from the failure of the Russians.
Nothing was learned from the French in Vietnam
Keep on re-electing the fools in Congress
For allintents and purposes, Afganistan has not been conquered since Alexander crossed through it on his way to the Indus River.
So quit talking about it and leave! Pack up everything that you can carry in 30 days and destroy the rest!!!!
Time to let the Afghans decide whether they are going to lie down with the lambs or run with the wolves. They are not interested in their own safety or security. They won't stay in uniform long enough to make a difference militarily and won't make a social decision to fight for their own justice. If they won't do that then they deserve what they get.
As long as the option exists to have someone else fund and operate your security there is no incentive to do it for yourself. They will always be a drain on the international community.
Ever see the movie "The Man Who Would Be King"? We should get out, and let them go back to urinating on each other, and playing polo with their heads
After WWI, many wars ago,
we called this “the war to end all wars.”
Question:
Was this best intention
disrespectful of WWI veterans who served and died?
Answer:
No, on the contrary.
This pledge honored them.
This is the best day
to remember
and honor
and learn.
May there be
peace on earth
and goodwill
toward all people
in this world.
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problem was this war really was the basis for the second WW… this is why we now fight wars of containment today. No more WW wars and the millions of lives and economic destruction. I guess were done in the ME.
I likewise defended my leaders’ chosen causes when I volunteered to enter the military in 1969 and volunteered in basic training to go to Vietnam. I was subsequently decorated with the Air Force Commendation Medal for my one year of service in Vietnam. I then served as an in-flight crewmember on a C-141 personnel and cargo aircraft for another year and delivered military personnel and equipment to over 40 countries. During that year, I routinely returned to Vietnam in order to take healthy personnel and weapons in, then to take the bodies of our boys and our injured back home.
I performed my duties to my country faithfully, but slowly became less faithful to my changing morality and myself. Eventually, I could no longer conscientiously contribute to causes condoned and to conflicts created and continued by my Commander-in-chief. I requested and received an Honorable Discharge as a Conscientious Objector.
I realize I was most fortunate to be born and raised in the United States where we treasure our freedom to object. Yet, every day since my discharge, I have also wondered how many more of our finest sons and daughters and then their children will somehow be coerced and convinced by government, church, family and friends that “there are no diplomatic alternatives left,” so they must go to war as bravely as we did and our ancestors did.
problem is warfare the failure of diplomatic process…we are very lazy in our vetting of politicians and the results indicate. Even WW2 could have been avoided…through competent leadership post WW1 and pre WW2. We have got to educate ourselves politically in this country, and demand competent and moral leadership who have resumes'!
What took so long? It has been evident from day one, that Afghanistan did not want U.S. intervention, but yet we played Police to the world without any appreciation from those we were protecting.
Well said, Charles. The withdrawal of all U.S. troops as well as those of our NATO "allies" is the best thing that can happen to Afghanistan. How would you feel if the Russians stationed 34,000 of their troops in this country? Not very good, I expect.
And our United States citizens have always been told, “there are no diplomatic alternative left,” so our finest sons and daughters must again go to war as bravely as we did and our ancestors did.
And our U.S. leaders have always pledged that our finest sons and daughters bravely sacrificed their lives in foreign nations for something..."for our further freedom and democracy at home."
And our U.S. leaders and citizens still try to coerce more of our finest youths to defend more of their chosen causes and to attack more of their chosen foes.
And the U.S. has allocated $572 billion in "defense" spending for 2014.
And our majority of citizens only parrot to others that U.S. global military strength and expansionism and weapons productions and weapons sales will make us safer when instead the opposite is surely true.
And even our most patriotic and brave soldiers will not be able to protect us from our foreign blunders.
And even our most patriotic and brave soldiers will not be able to protect us from those who fear U.S. global military expansionism and from those who covet our sold weapons of mass destruction and from those who despise the arrogance of U.S. actions and its failed foreign policies.
And the U.S. is the supreme military and economic power behind a worldwide military-industrial complex.
And it is no surprise that our struggling U.S. and world economies, temporarily supported by weapons productions and sales, will continue to only flounder on by if...only if our "Masters of War" can fuel even more wars…even more foreign wars fueled by our failed foreign policies and with our sold weapons of mass destruction.
And when “world peace’ is somehow discovered and is somehow forced upon even the U.S., the worldwide military-industrial complex, led by the U.S., will collapse.
And this collapse will create a global economic depression and social upheaval that will put the “Great Depression” to shame.
Why?
Because this will be the price all world citizens will have to initially pay as we finally try to make right our past moral wrongs.
Take a course or two to improve your writing skills then smoke another one.