The 'brim'ming controversy about Marines hats
Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos wearing the dress version of the Male Frame Cover, the hat worn by Marine men since 1922 and maybe soon by women Marines.
October 25th, 2013
07:38 PM ET

The 'brim'ming controversy about Marines hats

By Larry Shaughnessy

At ease Marines. The Corps is not going to make men change their hats.

A New York Post headline, "Obama wants Marines to wear 'girly' hats," generated a lot of attention this week.

But alas, the service says that's not the case.

The Marine Corps said uniform decisions are made by the Commandant, not the President, following recommendations from the Marine Uniform Board, Capt. Maureen Krebs, a spokeswoman, said.

The board, comprised of about a dozen male and female Marines, meets about once every three months to consider changes to various uniforms.

This week, the board sent out a survey asking all Marines what they thought about switching to universal covers.

There were two choices: all wearing the current design worn by men or the Corps switching to a smaller one, which the survey called a Dan Daly cap.

Sgt. Major Daniel Daly wearing the uniform cap that now bears his name.

Sgt. Major Daniel Daly wearing the uniform cap that now bears his name.

Daly was highly decorated for battles before and during World War I and is considered one of the greatest Marines ever.

Trying to diffuse the controversy, Commandant Gen. James Amos released a statement saying male Marines will continue to wear their current hats.

Amos "has zero intention of changing the male cover," according to the statement.

"We are looking for a new cover for our female Marines for one overriding reason: the former manufacturer went out of business," Lt. Col. Neil Murphy quoted Amos as saying. One option is having women wear the same hat, or cover as the Corps calls them, as men.

Since 2002, the Corps has surveyed Marines about the idea of ditching the women's so-called bucket cap. At that time 67% of Marines who responded, men and women, favored a change, according to Krebs.

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  5. mosquitokita

    They aren't hats, they're covers.

    October 30, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Reply
  6. dajowi

    I'm surprised that gay Marines didn't raise a fuss insisting that the brims of all hats be pink.

    October 30, 2013 at 10:27 am | Reply
    • Durundal

      wow, you sure got the market cornered on bigoted and ignorant, too bad there isnt any demand for it outside of the forums you troll around in

      October 31, 2013 at 10:07 am | Reply
  7. Michael

    What's wrong with both gender wearing what we used to call "Wheel Caps" as shown in the picture of the male Marine? Female cadets wear the same caps as their male counterparts. It's no big deal. Save some money by single sourcing the caps. Carry on ...

    October 28, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Reply
  8. Evans

    I am glad this got squashed. The male Marines have spoken.

    The female Marine dress blue uniform looks terrible though. They should have made changes to it 20 years ago.

    October 28, 2013 at 10:44 am | Reply
  9. Old Salt

    They've been canvassing the troops since 2002 on this subject. You'd think they're almost ready to make a decision, wouldn't you? 238 years of proud tradition unhampered by progress?

    October 28, 2013 at 12:22 am | Reply
  10. ShiverMeTimbers

    The country is bankrupt and we are worrying about some stupid hat. No more welfare for Israel.

    October 26, 2013 at 1:29 am | Reply
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      Giving military assistance to an ally is not welfare, its basic of military strategy. They represent our interests in the region, like it or not. If it wasn't for the Mossad we'd be much worse off in the War on Terror.

      We give military aid to allies ALL THE TIME. We even give a substantial amount military aid to countries that don't even like us or continually go against our wishes. Hell, we gave nearly 4.5x more aid to Afghanistan than Israel, why aren't you complaining about that? Does it have to do with the fact that Afganis aren't "ZOMG JOOZ"...

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  13. MiddleAmericaMS

    Yet another fake outrage invented controversy from the Conservatives' media disinfo machine.


    October 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm | Reply
    • aaa

      Um, this was taken from the New York Post. The headline was meant to be funny and eye-catching. I don't think it's a ploy by some vast Conservative conspiracy to make people uninformed...

      November 6, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Reply
  14. Portland tony

    God, the Navy changed their uniforms twice in the past thirty years, the only President who got involved in uniform changes was Ronald Reagan who suggested the Navy dress Blues circa WWII looked better on Sailors than their business suits. And all services have changed their Camo utilitiy working uniforms in the last twenty years.

    October 25, 2013 at 9:00 pm | Reply
  15. bydesign001

    From where I sit, a non-leader who forces the military to wear pregnancy suits will force upon them girly hats.

    October 25, 2013 at 7:41 pm | Reply

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