When will current terror threat end?
There has been no significant new intelligence about potential terror threats against U.S. interests since startling developments tied to al Qaeda that prompted the closure of American embassies throughout the Middle East and Africa this week, multiple sources tell CNN's Barbara Starr and Elise Labott.
But with the terror alert and embassy closings now stretching into a fifth day, a crucial question is how will the United States know when the threat has passed and facilities can re-open?
One senior U.S. official said there is no new threat stream that gives authorities pause. But on the other hand, "we haven't seen anything that turns us off even more."
Officials added that the United States is trying to determine whether its public disclosure of the threat in general and follow up action has disrupted plots or just delayed them.
"We expected something by now. We would not expect them to throw their hands up, but at what point do you reconsider," one official said.
Ultimately it will be a State Department call as to whether to re-open based on intelligence.
A threatening message among senior al Qaeda operatives that was intercepted was the communication that raised alarm bells, leading to the closing of embassies beginning on Sunday.
The end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and concern over several major prison breaks involving militants in the region also contributed to the U.S. response.
One official with access to the latest information said "because of the visibility, the likelihood that an attack has been postponed has increased, we hope."
Officials emphasize that nothing is guaranteed.
They also emphasize that the feeling is they are in a no-win situation: if there is no attack everyone says they overreacted. If there is an attack, they failed to prevent it.
While intelligence has focused on Yemen as a possible target, officials are not ruling out other locations.
White House spokesman Jay Carney insisted on Friday that the current threat "is very real" and was more specific than general administration warnings about groups and individuals "out there in the world who want to do harm to the United States."
"I think there will be an assessment and when there is an assessment that this current threat is not what it was, then we will probably change our posture," Carney said. "But I certainly don't have a time line to predict to you."
CNN's Adam Levine contributed to this report.
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A look at petroleum exports:
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Data for Egypt:
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It will of coruse never end but then again some of us (present admnistration not included) didn't wipe out the word "terrorist" from our dictionary.
The terror alerts will end just as soon as Obama doesn't need to distract the news media, and thinks there is a political gain to be made by magically claiming he has fixed the situation.
Well put, Dave. It appears that all these so-called "threats" are staged by this fool Obama just to make himself look good. Al Qaeda is far less powerful than the right-wing media let's on!
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The terror will end when we develop a credible, effective and selective means of clear, sharp reprisal which makes it simply too costly to Islamic nations for them to continue to allow the terrorists to operate.
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The only ones who can end a terror threat are terrorists. Have they changed their minds, begun to sing kumbaya, and started handing out flowers in airports? Have they renounced terror and embraced Gandhi and Martin Luther King as inspirational people who have profoundly changed societies? Standing on a flight deck in a pilot suit with a mission accomplished banner was dumb, but declaring a terror threat over might be dumber.
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The current terror threat will end when terrorists get a nuclear weapon, detonate it in a western city, and force an overwhelming response that destroys Islamic civilization.
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When moderate Islamic thinkers take control of their religious establishment, consciously choose to evolve away from violent jihad, and replace the notion of violence in the name of religion with a peaceful approach based upon setting a good example for others to join.
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When the rest of the world isolates radical Islamists, peels moderate Muslims away from them, and freethinking Muslims become part of the fabric of the world.
The terror threat will end when America changes its evil, murderous foreign policies.
Which one?
- Making a good faith effort to broker a lasting peace between the Islamic world and Israel?
- Helping faithful Muslims fight off a communist invader in Afghanistan?
- Helping Muslims in Kosovo survive a genocide?
- Trying to minimize Russian repression of Chechens?
- Defending Saudi Arabia from a brutal dictator who had just conquered Kuwait?
- Liberating the people of Kuwait?
Americans did not have an entirely unfavorable view of Muslims prior to 9/11. Many respect them for the seriousness with which they approached their faith. Post 9/11, American foreign policy changed to aggressively take out enemies who might sponsor terrorism or who might be trying to develop weapons of mass destruction. Now, we do not fully trust any Muslim.
I love the smell of propaganda in the morning.
....So many FOXturds posting anti Obama idiocy.........The USA terrorists are the misinformed GOTP membership
FAIL!
Obam is why were hear, quit brown nosing.
The threat will be over right after the mid term elections.
Remember, Al Qaeda has been decimated according to the President. This is some other faction
And remember, that was not a Coup in Egypt; it was a reorganization.
And The US is not spying on the world; we are merely collecting information
The terror will never end as long as all they have to do is dial up some threats, let them get intercepted and let the nations react. Close this, close that, live in fear and leave the country.....seems that the terrorists are winning without firing one shot or setting off one bomb. The world now lives in terror because of the tactic.
When the people stop talking about the NSA listening in on our phone conversations! That is what all of this is about! Obama administration wanting you to believe that the NSA is just protecting you from the bad guys!
It will end just before the Obama's leave for Martha's Vineyard. I have a question – Why are we fighting al queda in afghanistan while we arm al queda in syria? Isn't foreign policy suppose to be at least consistent.
Its the Obama way. Arm other countries citizens so they can fight a corrupt government but disarm the US citizens so we cant protect ourselves from ours.
Whenever this administration feels it is most politically beneficial for them to "claim" it is over.
I am pretty sure NSA will intercept a message indicating the threat has been cancelled. It's all there, in the chatter.
The threat may end when this administration decides that they will no longer send money and weapons to al queida. They claim to be fighting al Q and yet they fund them and send them weapons. I keep saying it. Where are the treason trials? Why are all the media silent on this?
I absolutely agree with you. Without fund and arms the war will end.
Sounds like surrender to me. Peace is easy, just surrender.
It won't STOP until and unless we adopt maybe a BRAVE NEW WORLD approach (Aldos Huxley) and absolutely
C R U S H and PREVENT the jihadists and other terrorists from organizing, teaching children,training people to kill and destroy ! It can be done with the right resolve and combinations it's just a matter of who and when will make it happen !
Another stupid comment above by another ignoramus. Did this bozo ever get past the 5th grade? More killing will only exacerbate this problem, not end it as anyone with any intelligence knows!
totally agree with you, people are way to ignorant and blinded by what the media is feeding them.
Your resort to an ad hominem attack reveals the weakness of your position. People don't like to grapple with the idea that defeating an enemy and transforming their civilization into something new might end a threat. It may not be worth the expenditure of resources, but we should consider what we might do to completely obliterate Islamic culture and replace it with something new. Leaving Islamic nations to fester and play with centrifuges might not be the best of ideas.
There will never be an end to terrorism.
Nice cover up? Anyone remember the same day this threat released was the same day we found the CIA on groud at the embassy of the Benghazi attacks. Open your eyes America and Senate, its a bigger cover up then watergate. There's no threat and if there is this is barack obamas way of getting all the attention off benghazi and showing that he cares and evacuates buildings... nice appearance on jay leno the day after the threats. Seems like it must be an important threat....glad you could pretend to be an American Hero when ultimately, he's the saddest excuse for an American citizen. Stop the lies.
is there any end game for you? it seems as though no matter what he does its wrong. Is it maybe just your deep hate for the man that you cant see any good in him? Or maybe you just live to complain. Nobody likes a whiner
and no one like a traitor who is sending money and weapons to al queida
when obama is arrested
That day can't come soon enough, fletcher. Unfortunately, that'll never happen since the U.S. along with Great Britain and France have nothing to fear from the I.C.C. since those judges are already bought and paid for!
The real question is " Why is terroism directed against the USA" Are we saints ?
Or did we attack Iraq on false pretenses. Do we kill innocent people by using drones.
Did we buly half the world in the Snowden affair.
WE DESERVE IT
You nailed it good, Richard! Thanks for your input here. It's like a breath of fresh air after reading all those tiresome, right-wing, pro U.S. government comments made by all these idiots here!!!
Pro government is a right wing trait? Right now that sounds a little twisted. For some crazy reason I had the idea that it was the liberals who were gung ho government and the right wingers who were the opposition.
Anyway, I hope we haven't become so split that we can't all be pro American. If for nothing wlse then for the sake of our kids. They have to live someplace!
Really tell me what we did in the 1990s to deserve it.....defend Saudi from Saddam.....I think you subscribe to false narrative. This is not ending because we did anything.....It is not ending because we exist.
When all Muslims are deported to Mars
What did Mars do to deserve those things?
I am not sure there will every be an end to terrorist. They are like bad weather, you never know when it will hit. You get notified of when it's coming. Some times it doesn't happen, and sometimes it comes out of the blue.
This appears to be the "golden opportunity" for us to make these embassy closures permanent! We don't belong in these countries, we can never "fix" their problems for them. We have yet to "create" any functioning "democracy" anywhere! The ME is not ready, nor willing, to accept "our" standards. Get out!
Iraq is a lesson! We installed an "elected" government which told us to get out of their country. Now they no longer have American troops to kill, so they turn on each other!!! All these countries must "fix" their own problems. Unfortunately, they choose to do this by killing each other. This is all they know, and are not interested in learning anything new!
We shouldn't be in those countries? Who is going to pump their oil? Oh, we don't need the oil. We have plenty here. Oh, but if it were up to Obama and his EPA not another cup of oil or lump of coal would ever be produced from the U.S. So I guess we can go back to horses, oxen, and slaves to provide the energy we need to produce the food we eat and the materials we use???
Doesn't do much good to post when CNN censors your post.
Never, until our politicians get the courage to act.
Answer:
1. When the promises made to the Palestinians back in 1948 are kept.
2. When the US stops going around the world killing people.
Deformed babies are being born in Iraq because of the depleted we shot all over their country. Just imagine that at least half of the 20 million or so Iraqis have a family member or a friend murdered by the US in an illegal war.
When do you think the terror will end ?
You get your information from the wrong sources.
DING, DING, DING!!!!
With no more American troops in Iraq to kill, the Iraqis turn to killing each other! This is how we "create" new democracies!
We need to stop this madness! The Iraqis want to kill each other, so do the Syrians and the Egyptians! The Pakistani military provides protection for terrorists. Karsai, in Afghanistan, just wants to keep his heroin empire profitable and fill his own pockets with our aid dollars so he can retire soon!
We don't belong in this region, get out!!!!
It will end on February 30th.
Instead of turning tail beef them up big time and warn that anyone attempting to bridge the embassy wall will be immediately shot. Good way to eliminate threats. Also have an apache sitting on the roof. Easy solution.
Part of the challenge (that we learned from Benghazi) is that the GOP stripped down the security budget for embassies. Makes it very difficult to beef up security around the world. Otherwise, I agree with you.
You believe the liars, there was 87 billion dollars earmarked for embassy security that had yet to be spent. Don't you ever get tired of playing the sap for the lying democrats?
Your rationale is false and money is not the answer. Even Hillary said lack of money was not the problem in Libya.
The State Dept. budget in 2009 was $11.5 Billion
The State Dept. budget in 2010 was $16.5 Billion (the latest info available)
By any stretch, its budget is enormous. The number one job of the State Dept. is to protect American citizens overseas. It's also its responsibility to allocate these funds appropriately to get the job done. The SOS currently has over a million contractors working in Iraq, most of them non American. How, exactly, does this fit into their first priority?
Blaming a $300 million shortfall for the lack of security in Benghazi is just plain silly. You need to find another rationale to blame on the Republicans.
When will current terror threat end?
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When they have milked it for all the mileage they can squeeze from it.
Close all schools in the US and divert 100% of education funds (except private schools for the wealthy) to the military. Then will it end?
OK, cancel all Social Security benefits, shut down Medicare (except for private insurance for the wealthy) and direct all that money to the military. Then will it end?
Close the EPA, Dept of Labor, Health and Human services, FEMA and the Dept of Agriculture and direct those funds to the military too. That ought to do it.
The problem is we are taxing business too much and not spending enough on the military. In order to give the top 1% huge tax breaks so they will create jobs and double military spending we will need to cut a few things.
But, then we will be safe.
Sounds like the GOP and the Tory Party errr excuse me the Tea Party plan.
re "There has been no significant new intelligence about potential terror threats against U.S. interests since startling developments tied to al Qaeda that prompted the closure of American embassies throughout the Middle East and Africa this week" and "...a crucial question is how will the United States know when the threat has passed and facilities can re-open?"
The answer...THANKS TO SNOWDEN...we won't know. Those days are now gone, and we will live in a dark age with little to no warning on the majority of attacks, not the tiny percentage of attacks, as in the past. Before YOU consider Snowden a hero, think about that for a minute.
Excellent point. Unlike the "Pentagon Papers" he did not publish specific information about a specific crime. He just told every secret he could find and then jumped up and down yelling look at ME! I exposed the government! See how I am so important.
Wikki leaks is the same. Yes he exposed a few things that should have been exposed. He also destroyed decades of diplomatic efforts. Effectively destroying efforts to prevent wars.
The NSA has not stopped spying.
We need to thank our former ex-State Dept. head Hillary Clinton for the state of the union right now. She messed with Russia/Putin & lost. She backed the Muslim Brotherhood & lost. She ignored our best ally Israel. And she screwed our patriots in Benghazi. And our libtard low information voters want her to be President.
Let's get the talking points straight...Clinton did not "mess with Russia/Putin" and lose. Putin has been a nuisance for the past decade (or longer) and has alienated every major nation. Muslim Brotherhood??? Clinton simply respected the Democratic voting process that Bush pushed so hard for in the Middle East. Sine most of the Middle East is Muslim I imagine that through his push for democracy there...we are going to see more and more of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Where do you get your misinformation anyway?
Seems you are one of those low information voters he was talking about.
Silence the Media !! North Korea could of been a possible start of "World War III" says the media, and where are we now with that, what is next !!
Not much else to say, sometimes little is best !!
Ten bucks says many of these embassies never open again....
Twenty bucks says we don't need most of those embassies. Our spys can network fine without them.
It will end when the media stops glamerizing Al-Qeida as celebrities and stops doing exactly what they want people to do and that is feed into their fears. What does a crying kid do when people pamper them?, they continue their behavior but if you ignore them, eventually they stop crying and behave.
It looks like the Al Qaeda were ambitious for a commemorative strike on another embassy on the twentieth anniversary. All those potential targets went on alert and became 'hard targets' so they burned the next biggest available soft target in the region; the Nairobi airport, shut down local economies.
Is there really a threat or are the clowns and morons who run US "Intelligence" agencies simply playing games to draw attention?
Seems like a big game. This whole "terrorism" thing is all starting to look like a red herring.
Oh, you mean those clowns and morons that have kept this country pretty darn safe since 9/11 when the "real" clown and moron chose to ignore US Intelligence?
This catastrophe of Islamic terrorism will never end until either 1) Israel nukes one of the many radical Muslim countries, probably Pakistan because they have nukes and more terrorists than any other Islamic country. Or 2) The U.S. seizes the Saudi oil fields and warns Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Egypt, and Lebanon that unless they want our air force to turn theirccountries into glass, or want trident nuclear missiles headed their way then they better get these terrorists animals under control. Because America is sick of dealing with evil people who kill civilians. The next republican president in 2016 is going to wreak havoc on these groups you wait and see.
Yeah, the last Republican president did a great job.
Lets see. Reagan armed and supported radicals in Afghanistan, then abandon them once Russia pulled out. They renamed themselves Al Qaeda.
Then Bush I forced Saddam out of Kuwait, but left him in power and left a huge US military presence in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and patrolling the skies over Iraq. Somehow these Al Qaeda guys got the idea we were interfering in the Middle East.
Bush II invaded Iraq chasing phantom weapons and lead to 100,000 – 1,000,000 deaths mostly non-combatants and for some reason they still don't love us.
Under Carter, Israel signed treaties with three Islamic countries and began talks with Palestine.
Under Clinton there was progress with talks between Israel and Palestine. Including 365 days in a row in which not a single Israeli died in any act of terrorism.
Yay Republicans!
I will never end, when we run with our tails between our legs over every "Threat". Why not a platoon with 50Cals at every corner of our embassies, a few cases of grenades and some RPGs to boot. Our embassies are part of our country. If attacked, we should fight as in any invasion, not abandon them.
One reason is because there were major cuts to the security budget.
Which have not happened. We could cut defense spending by 20% save a hundred billion a yr and still spend more on defense etc than the next 5 countries combined. Its about how its spent not how much
The error in that logic is that we pay our troops more, they get better equipment, and their benefits are much better. So you are comparing apples to oranges. Procurement cost are not a key driver in the defense budget, it is manpower and training.
Great idea and since you seem like you really want an answer here goes. WHen the United States of AMerica becomes a more ethical world power – and stops the use of weapons that kill Civilians over and over again – that might be a starting point.
By civilians, do you mean all of the wonderfully innocent people who are sitting around, eating dinner, sleeping, and playing tiddly-winks with known terrorists? The people who are collateral casualties of drone strikes are most likely to be in full philosophical agreement with the terrorists who are killed. If they are children, they are children who are likely to grow up and go into the family business of terrorism. If they are women, they are women likely to give birth to the children of terrorists. All of them have the same general world view and radical Islamic religion. However, if you'd like to be more humane, you could always go give them the hugs and positive affirmations that they really need.
Placing our country in a permanent state of undeclared war means we will NEVER be at peace.
closing the embassies prevents another Benghazi too bad they will need to stay closed forever as that is when the threat will "end" unless we elect a string of Bushes and the US then responds to hostile actions in a forceful way
Boy that would be a disaster! One Bush was enough two brought this nation to its knees, a third clone would destroy us.
Obama is the 3rd clone – AKA Obusha
Never. It is too profitable for those companies involved. It takes two to fight. There is enough blame on both sides. Neither side is adult enough to end this.
The beginning of the end will occur when the West comes to grips with the fundamental cause of terror (Islam) and presents a united front to the world. Absent that recognition and unity, there is virtually no hope. One of two events will then need to transpire for terrorism to end: either a total collapse of Islam or fundamental reform of the Islamic belief system driven from within the Muslim community. I am not holding my breath.
It appears that somebody's trying to be funny here. I never posted the above! Like I said before, this threat has been greatly exaggerated as these so-called "terrorist" groups are far more powerless than our government let's on!
When? The first step to know the answer to this question is to get in front of a mirror and think rationally and logically with no outside peer pressure or political bias. Of course, some measure of innate intelligence is a prerequisite.
When will current terror threat end? no offense to my muslim brothers, but people have been asking the same questions for last [............] hundred years.
When the last Muslim blows him(her) self up
A more appropriate question here would be, did this threat truly exist in the first place or had Al Qaeda been enabled by the C.I.A to carry them out? I doubt if any of us will ever get the true answer to this question. This government is becoming less honest by the day as we now have two political parties, both on the right!
Phunnie Boy, threat was always there but it wasn't considered threat until some fools decided to wake up gaint on September 11.
The above posting attributed to John Geheran is not the same John Geheran who made a later posting.
yes, and that scares me more than al qaeda or anyone else, We are strong in this nation but it looks like we can be defeated from within.