FIRST ON CNN: Bounty on two Americans tied to Somali terror group
By Elise Labott
The State Department has put a multimillion-dollar bounty on the heads of two Americans who the United States claims belong to an al Qaeda affiliate in Somalia, CNN has learned.
Posters and matchbooks in Somali and English emblazoned with the names and pictures of Omar Shafik Hammami and Jehad Serwan Mostafa tout rewards up to $5 million each for information leading to their arrest or conviction. Both men are on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists List.
Image on matchbox to be distributed as part of the Rewards for Justice program
The rewards are being offered through the State Department's Rewards for Justice Program.
Hammami and Mostafa are members of Al-Shabaab, the al Qaeda affiliate in Somalia, and "have made significant contributions to this terrorist organization's media and military activities," according to a State Department statement on the rewards, obtained by CNN. They are both are believed to be in Somalia and speak English, Arabic and Somali.
A senior FBI official said the United States has information that both men "had a persistent interest in targeting U.S. interests" and are "believed to be involved in planning attacks on U.S. persons or property." But it is unclear what specific attacks against Americans, even ones that have been thwarted, these men have taken part in. Officials said that information is classified.
Hammami, a 29-year-old Alabama native, moved to Somalia in 2006. The State Department claims he joined Al-Shabaab there and received training from Islamic militants, rising through the organization's ranks to command a contingent of foreign fighters. Officials say he was also a "propagandist" for the group, helping to recruit English-speaking youth through writings, rap songs and video statements.
An Alabama court indicted him in 2009 on charges of providing support to a terrorist group.
Image on matchbox to be distributed as part of the Rewards for Justice program
In July 2011, the Treasury Department placed him on a blacklist prohibiting Americans from doing business with individuals and groups threatening stability in Somalia.
Hammami has been engaged in a public rift with Al-Shabaab over the past year. Last March, he first expressed concern about his safety in an extraordinary Web video. He has since criticized the group's leaders for corruption and living extravagant lifestyles with money fighters collect from Somali residents, and for fighting only in Somalia while ignoring global jihad.
Hammami's family has said they fear for his life.
But the senior FBI official told CNN that Hammami's current status with the group is "immaterial" and that the reward is based on the actions he has already taken to threaten U.S. interests.
"We still believe he is an individual of great significance to the activities that are going on in Somalia with Al-Shabaab," the official said.
Mostafa is believed to be either 27 or 32. He was born in Wisconsin before moving California, where he attended college. He traveled to Somalia in 2005, where officials say he led foreign fighters for Al-Shabaab and served as a media expert and recruiter. He was indicted in California on charges of providing material support to Al-Shabaab.
Al-Shabaab was labeled a foreign terrorist organization by the State Department in 2008. The group was responsible for the July 2010 suicide bombings in Kampala, Uganda, that killed more than 70 people, including a U.S. citizen, gathering to watch a World Cup final soccer match. Al-Shabaab is also believed to be responsible for numerous other attacks in Somalia that have killed international aid workers, journalists, civilian leaders and African Union peacekeepers.
In February 2012 the group's leader, Ahmed Abdi aw-Mohamed and al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri released a video announcing the alliance of the two organizations. The Rewards for Justice Program is already offering up to $7 million for information on seven other Al-Shabaab leaders.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton approved the rewards before leaving office. Officials said they hope the rewards will generate new leads from both Somalia and in Somali-American communities in the United States. In addition to the posters and matchbooks, U.S. officials will be talking with local media in Somalia to reach people that may have information about the men's whereabouts.
It is rare for the United States to offer a reward for an American citizen. The most notable previous reward offered for an American was $1 million for Adam Gadahn, who has served as senior operative and spokesman for the core al Qaeda organization.
Officials said that in addition to their leadership roles with a terrorist group, the men are of great interest because of their work trying to recruit other English-speaking youth.
"Anytime we have U.S. citizens who are trying to affiliate with groups to obtain experience and training and have the opportunity to bring back that lethal experience back to the United States, it's a concern," a State Department diplomatic security official said. "There is no question the cases against these two guys are based on their activities to date. However, we have a continuing interest in terrorist activates in Somalia right up to now. And these men serve as very powerful images for radicalization and recruitment."
The new bounties raise the question of what the United States will do with the men once they find them. The Obama administration drew fire from Congress and human rights groups for killing two Americans who belonged to the al Qaeda branch in Yemen. In September 2011, U.S. drone strikes killed Anwar al-Awlaki, a firebrand preacher from New Mexico who began running propaganda for al Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula and rose to become a senior operative in the group, and Samir Khan from North Carolina, who created an English-language Internet magazine for the group
Both officials said the Rewards for Justice Program - administered by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security - is not involved in drone programs and the intent of the reward is to obtain information that will lead to the men's apprehension and prosecution.
"The purpose of the program is to gather information to bring these guys back lawfully," the senior FBI official said. "We want to bring these people before a court."
The Rewards for Justice Program pays large sums of money for information that leads to the arrest or conviction of anyone who plans, commits or attempts international terrorist acts. Earlier this year, President Obama expanded the program to include payments for information about people involved in transnational organized crime or foreign nationals wanted by any international criminal tribunal for war crimes or genocide.
The program has a track record of gaining actionable intelligence. Since its inception in 1984, the program has paid more than $125 million to more than 80 people who provided information that put terrorists behind bars or prevented acts of international terrorism worldwide. The program was central to the capture of Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai; Ramzi Yousef, convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; and others.
Under the Rewards for Justice Program, a $25 million reward was offered for information leading to the capture of Osama bin Laden.
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The last guy that hunted someone down for you, you claimed he did nothing and then profited from his work, as he risked his life to track Bin Laden down while needing a kidney transplant.
I just don't get it these types of people. Us citizens that don't have a clue how much freedom they have because they are what picked on or made fun of.....so they go join a terrorist group. Better yet why did we let them out of the country? Isn't there some sort of flag system for people that want go to these terrorist hot spots?
Good point. And I would guess there will be in the future. These two slip under the radar a few years back, the focus wasn't really on to much in Somalia.
They moved to Somalia in 2005-2006, during the Bush administration's mis-handling of the war on terror. Of course, Somalia had been a terrorist stonghold since the Clinton administartion (if not earlier), but since they had nothing to do with Sadaam, his sons, or WMD, they certainly did slip under the "radar".
Time for a couple of drone strikes.
If I claim to be both men, can I spend the $5 million before I'm executed?
What a crock.... why go after Al Qada? the U.S. govt. is payrolling them to fight in Syria..
And of course you have evidence to back that up.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/15/source-u-s-trained-rebels-return-to-syria/?iref=obinsite
Yeah, I though so. A blog of propaganda. And you people will run with anything. I supposed you even think Wikipedia is credible.
This is the article which "proves" that the U.S. is training terrorists to fight in Syria:
Source: U.S. trained rebels return to Syria
The first Syrian rebels trained by U.S. military and intelligence officers in Jordan returned to Syria on Thursday, a senior rebel spokesman told CNN.
About 300 rebel fighters received specialized training in Jordan in the use of various weapons, including anti-tank, anti-aircraft and other types of advanced systems, the spokesman said.
More rebel fighters are currently undergoing training.
Syrian rebels' efforts to topple President Bashar al-Assad have claimed more than 60,000 lives since the fighting began in March 2011. Another 940,000 have fled the country and more than 10% of Syria's 20 million residents have been forced to move elsewhere inside the country, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has said.
OH, so now being a rebel is a terrorist ? Heaven forbid if we here at home ever take to the streets uh..
If Intel finds them in Somalia, please send in the Drones. Its fair game and cheaper. Smile you're on candid Drone, baaaaabye, BOOM.
I dont understand the immigration policies of this country. Why let these ppl in and why search for them? All these people are given green cards and welcomed to US. See what they are doing. High time they come up with a immigration policy which will not only help the economy but also the security of this country.
Bee,
These two are American citizens from red states who defected to Somali. Brainwashed of course growing up listening to militia groups and then later while smoking dope in college.
I dont understand they should all leave I see more and more now ...we should let them know there not welcome play at there own game
look like Obama voters
Making ridiculous statements doesn't attract people to your position.
"Looks like Southern white Republicians!"
There. See, I can do it, too. Did I convince you to join my side?
If I say a prayer to God to kill these two would that be a bad thing?
Yes ! God doesn't work off your time table.
just news to keep the fear alive? or do these guys really exist? After WMD lie on Iraq, it is hard to trust much.
The reason we are in debt is the government throws such big dollars at a problem. Unless you are a billionaire, 1 million dollars would be enough to get anyone to blow the whistle. Even $500,000.
I'm pretty sure I saw those dudes playing hackysack at that Rusted Root show last summer. Can I have my five million now?
Oh look kids, @ Blah blah's mommy let him use the computer today. Isn't he funny and mature? Perhaps he will enlighten us further when he finishes middle school. One can only hope.
HEY is the one on the right Jay Carney... OBAMA's Press Secretary????
Add a beard and you got Jay Carney
or rather sans the beard you got Jay Carney, OBAMA's Press Secretary
Yawn.
Wow, that is weird! I saw both of them in one day! See, I was in this taxi, and I stopped at a 7-11...
Piece of crap TRAITORS! Both of em. I wish only the worst for these pieces of human garbage.
Send in the drones – and kill these clowns.....Go President Obama, make my day!
I wonder how many bleeding-heart Republicans/Tea Partiers/Libertarians will decry the targeting of these "Americans" without due process...
I am a libertarian. I would say forget 5 Million, pump a $5 bullet in them. They might be American citizens on paper but they are no more American than the Pope is Jewish.
I always knew those people from Alabama and Wisconsin were terrorists.
A jihadist with a Southern draw that's different.
derka derka y'all
I thought I saw them at Wal-Mart the otehr day.
Do we still get paid if we kill the and send back their heads on ice?
The same thing did cross my mind. Naw, it's for their arrest and conviction. They are probably in Bezerkly or further north in a national forest growing dope.
If they could kill an american talibani with a drone, it shouldn't be too hard to get these clowns.
these two guys will be in my trunk within 6 months..... and lets see if the state department will pay out. im looking for flights as we speak.
They'll pay ! Just get 'em, and watch your a– over there. Trust no one including any Americans, especially if they are in a suit and tie. Be careful.
I been to Somalia before, Crazy place. I did work with high seats of various houses. but the jihadists are crazy people. absolutely nutty. paranoid people, for obvious reasons.
The one on the right is Grover Norquist.
It is Grover!
Yes!...Just give this guy the five million for an awesome comment! I LMAO!
I saw them I saw them!!! They were on CNN!
Wow, you're hilarious /sarcasm
..........Chick Fil A ...........Newtown, MS........................betcha
.....or........South 9th Street.....Brockton Mass..............the BK...............
........maybe the Tapas at Las Vegas...ya know, the one near the casino................
These guys are slaughtering Horses! That's what they do!
Check all the 7-11s . You can find them there.
The key words are "up to". Just like crimestoppers in Canada, they only have to pay you a penny to honor the "up to" clause.
Did you say Crime Stoppers or Planned Parenthood? I think they are the same thing.
Wow. These to guys have impressive resumes. They should be hired as drone targets.
They are in Portland Oregon, at the beard contest right now!
islam has corrupted their soul
the touch of islam has corrupted their soul
Yes, and I suppose all these "Christian" mega-church preachers that skim donation money "for the poor...sche" were lead astray by Satan or some equivalent nonsense, as opposed to being tainted by the touch of Jesus Christ. Something something, glass houses, something something, shouldn't throw stones.
The US, Israel's dancing puppet for 65 years, is at war with Islam. This is a religious war, based on centuries of hatred.
Islam is at war with Allah ! The terrorist do not believe in God, they believe in a prophet called Mohammed ..
The guy on the right looks like Andre The Giant (r.i.p.)
Islam is at war with the U.S. and all western countries you dufus. Duh!
I've just about got this solved. I went online and donated a $1 each on behalf of Omar and Jehad to the RNC/DNC. Not only will those people find them, they will torture them for a lifetime of phone calls and emails. Can you imagine them sitting at Club Gitmo with the phone ringing of the hook asking for donations? Instead of water boarding, making them watch PBS pledge drive 24/7 would make them drop a dime on Hajee. Yeh, I know water boarding doesn't seem so bad now does it?
Joe, u cracked me up...lol
They are limo drivers for Obama who is in Israel !
Be nice we Jews don't hate the Muslims, but we don't trust the Neo-Cons, who like to start wars. (with phony intelligence)
I saw them in a Washington restaurant, dinning with Newt, and talking about how to make Barrack looks bad by sending some trolls to say on CNN that they they are Barrack's driver.
Remember these guys are Americans and as the GOP and Rand Paul say they have full rights of all americans. Now these two listened to the support Law Makers gave to American Terrorist and the Al Qeada found a great recruitment tool. Bush dismantled the search for Bin Laden as Cheney got President Musharraf to give him protection. Bush/Cheney said Bin Laden was living in caves and Bin Laden laughed. Obama was asked by soldiers and their families to catch Bin Laden. Now Obama was smart not to tell Republicans or Tea Party of his search as they would have been leaked an Bin Laden would still be alive. All that comes out with the plan set out by the Bush/Clinton.
why are we in a hurry to get them? "living" in Somalia is punishment – they live in a hut and kr@p in a hole. livin' the dream, jihadi style...
The fear is because they speak English and know the American landscape. And there are sleeper cells in this country. Along with the fear of them recruiting more Americans.
Read some of the comments here to get a better understanding of the mind set of some of these young people. They been smoking the dope so long even their own parents have become some grand conspiracy.
Dont worry, these are radicalized American spies who need cover of media to infiltrate Al-Shabab.
Great going guys.... Even the beards look legit!
Truthfully, the Rewards for Justice program should be expanded to reign in GW Bush and Cheney to stand trial for war crimes in Iraq. A lot of military wounded and family of killed soldiers are irate over the sacrifice of their loved ones for the sake of enriching the Oil companies and pockets of Bush and Cheney.
That's Ed down in shipping.
Seriously, sounds like a lame attempt to convince Al Qaeda these are not US spies.
Touche'
What I understand is this: Alabama and Wisconsin. How does a guy from the South and a guy from the Midwest get caught up in something like this? In the case of the Wisconsin guy, the article mentions that he moved to California for schooling. Maybe he became radicalized there? But Alabama?!
Go down further in this thread and see my other comments about what you mention to get a better understanding of the how's and why's.
Osama Bin Laden was worth more than that!
Bin Laden was FRIENDS with the Bush family for a long time....
He was schlepping Hillary before that!
I would check Obama or maybe even Bush either one problably knows EXACTLY where they are...
I doubt it, but I bet the CIA does. And they are rogue for the most part. Every President since JFK has a special team of s.s. detail the public never hears about, and their job is to keep an eye on the CIA.
How can we pay? I thought sequester was going on?
Special fund set up after Obama came in, and levy in-part against those companies who had contracts in Iraq. In other words it's not costing the tax-payers.
It's Plan B of Obamacare, duh?
They say up to 5 million!
Is this one of those deals where the State Department says they'll pay you for helping find the guys then put you in Gitmo forever to prevent paying you?
Out of control!
I would have to agree with that, and normally I abhorred violence, but these two social misfits or indeed any who cross the boundaries of good and decent Americans should be taken out with all due 'prejudice'.
I'd pay you $5mil if you could find one of those "good and decent americans"
What ever happened to good old fashioned hanging for treason?
"Up to 5 million" means they can pay out 1 penny? It is so funny how they play with the wording so they don't have to pay out the full 5 million.
Let me get this straight. Two guys grow up in the USA, travel to a foreign country, need a job, get a job handing out papers that they can't read, and then get a 5 million dollar bounty on their heads?
And your point is what ?
Guilty or innocent, these two guys don't stand any kind of a chance given the right-wing lynch mob mentality sweeping the country these days! All one has to do here is just read all these ignorant rants on this web page condemning these two men! It's(this ignorance here) enough to make even a billy goat want to puke!
Whew, are you stupid or what?
A drone strike would save a lot of tax payer's money....
Another idiotic comment above from another lame brained Tea Partier! This is the kind of ignorance that will eventually bring this country to it's very knees!!!
The country is horizontal. All that is needed is for someone to shovel dirt in its face.
With all the bombs the US possesses , how hard would it be to make one big huge parking lot. Problem solved DONE!
You're solution: commit genocide, killing innocent men, women and children, poor enough and unfortunate enough to be living in Somalia alongside a small group of murderers, simply because, well, they live there and look the same. Can't see how that won't work. You sound like our country's version of the two evil clowns this article is about.
after reading 5 commnets, its like...wow you guys are idiots.
After looking over your post, I'm surprised you can read.
Rant Paul is a traitor to the core and an enemy of the state. Rant Paul held Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel hostage for 13 hours while Jong-Fat threatened to drone the United States with nuclear missiles. Rogue states and terrorist regimes worldwide have a friend and confidant in Rant Paul. Incompetent un-American right wing loser.
It's hard to believe sometimes that he's Ron Paul's son. Cause he ain't half the man Dr. Paul is. And I wouldn't give a plug nickle for that phony !
Agree.
He's a teabagger
Of course Rand Paul talked for 13 hours...They didnt specify if drones could be used on U.S. air space, a major point to debate with out a doubt. I dont think we as citizens need our Government to turn their attention on the U.S. and use them anytime they deem necessary.
Also it was not 13 hours, he was prepared for 13 hours
And some folks have expressed outrage that drones have been used to target American citizens. These two made their choices and exercised them.....
It is drone time,save us some money in the process.
Up to 5 million leading to the arrest or conviction. That means they won't pay a dime because they will kill them when you tell them where they are. And even if they surrender and are convicted because you lead the FBI to them, you will only get 1 dollar because it said up to 5 million, but they don't have to pay even close to that amount.
Just another government scam.
Seems like you know too much Jon...Are you one of the them????
Hmm Chet, trying to divert the attention from yourself?
Wrong ! Go to http://www.gov.com and fill out the paper work. If you have the winning entry you can also win an all expense paid trip to the Caribbean.
Don't forget about the free knife set if you act now!
On a Carnival ship!!!!!!
How are these guys Americans?
just like anybody else is. not that hard
There not ! (it's only a technicality) They left their due process here at home.
Let's get 'er done ..
I guess one of the requirements of being a terrorist is to stop all hygiene.
Maybe we could plant some drone bugs in the beard.
If these "brave" fighters of jihad were serious about furthering their cause, they'd have an unknown member of their gang turn them in for the reward money. But while they and their like love to send others to blow themselves up amidst innocent civliians, neither one will even subject themselves to a little imprisonment and waterboarding for $5,000,000.00. Cowards.
I blame high school bullying for the actions of these two traitors.
Look at them.
Geeks to the core.
If only it where that simple. True geeks ain't into violence. They where poison in the womb, and further indoctrinated while under the bong and some liberal science course.
Nah. These look like conservative Southern Baptist hard core cadre to me. Jethro from Alabama especially. Cheese boy just looks lost in that photo.
Can you explain to me what a liberal science course might be? Just wondering
You know, that's when you teach science using something other than the bible or other works of fiction.
I don't mind if Obomber vaporizes them. I just disagree that water-boarding is worse than being vaporized.
I'm pretty sure if people were given the choice of waterboarding or death, most would take a pass on death.
Wish my boss would end up with a bounty like this on him. I'd love to turn him in.
Careful this site is monitored. (by the outside)
You will be getting a visitor tonight.
You seem to know a little too much.
Make sure you stay home.
Pack a bag.
Ha ha ha – best comment I have read in a while!
Scott i'm your Boss, don't bother coming to work tomorrow, you're fired. lol
Just how in the heck do you go from an Alabama Redneck and a Wisconsin Cheesehead.....to a Muslim freedom fighter terrorist?
Now THAT'S diversity.
By attending a militia meeting by way of daddy's indoctrination, then you go off to college, any college in America.
Constant bullying in high school
Smoking too much ditch weed.
Emphasis on the "UP TO". You'll be lucky to see a dime. Got to work on that national debt, ya know.
Is that dead or alive?
Step in right direction ! Not a fan of drone stikes on US citizens.. now good ol' fashion marks of reprisal and a bit of booty to juice the pot.. yeah, good stuff.
Am I understanding you correctly that you're OK with paying millions to bounty hunters and assassins to take these 2 out, but think getting them with drones is wrong?
It's a new government jobs program.
shovel ready job I trust.
Wanted pictures printed on match books? Just the other day I wanted to purchase a new bic lighter only to have the store clerk ask me for an ID. I is a requirement to purchase any tobacco products to show ones ID. All I wanted was to light my grill for the barbeque.
Probably would be harder to see their images if printed on Bic lighters. And they are distributing these in a 3rd world country where people can't afford Bic lighters.
You know who gave the tip to Osama's location? A Pakistani DR. You know what he got? None of the bounty on Osamass head and Life in Prison...
Not quite. The docter participated in a plan to try and get blood sample from people living at the compound to see if any were related to Bin Laiden under the guise of a vaccination program. He was unsucessful to say the least.
USA Declares Bounty on two Americans: Is the bounty for Obama/Biden's heads?! While at it, add Bobble Head Pelosi and Senile Reed to the list, PLEASE!!!
We can add Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice and Idiot Jr. to the list as well.
Exactly, and then a bounty for "Brother" George Bush as he is called by the Saudi's who financed al-Quaeda for years...
Hey Jerry....tell us all how you felt on election day when America rubbed your nose in dog poo!
How does it feel to be such a looser jerry?
How does it feel to know that you are a dinosaur (which you probably don't believe in)? To know that you and your politics are a thing of the past???
Face it Jer....there's no going back. America is changed and you have not. Only thing left for you to do is to take one of your precious guns (you know...those metal penises that you love sooo much), put it in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Enjoy yourself jerry. you deserve the life that is coming to you.
Looser.
Wow, hate much? Also BTW it is 'loser', not looser. You seem to have some issues with people who do not agree with you, please get used to it without suggesting that people put guns in their mouths, you come off as a hateful hypocrite who does the same exact things that you pretend to decry.......
Now Jerry.........we know you're still upset about the election but there's no need to spit all over the keyboard like that.
At least he didn't have the caps lock on.
If you can't be fair and take the bums from both sides, you'll just be written off as another partisan fool.
...looks like you are still upset that Sir Obama has protected this GREAT COUNTRY and your sick polluted AA_RRSE for 5 years when your boy the dickyhead cheney and bushy boy could only do it for 8 months.....hmmmmmmmm
Your comments are unamerican.
Is that $5 million US dollars or 5 millions Solami Shillings?
So I am curious as to where this reward money comes from exactly. I have a pretty good idea where it is coming from, and it is not from some private person...it is tax money. I don't disagree that these guys may be guilty of crimes and should be brought to trial and maybe even executed. I do have a big issue with MY tax dollars funding a reward when they can't balance their budget. I think tax expenditures over a certain dollar value should go to a vote. I for one with rather this money go toward welfare reform or education.
The reward money is not likely to be tax dollars that have been collected. Rather, the reward will be with money borrowed from China, or some of the new money being printed by the Fed at this very moment.
When are you whiners and complainers going to learn that you have no control over what the government does with your taxes.
Just make sure you pay them on time and in full.
Or else we'll be looking for you too.
It's part of the defense budget, just like the $150 million planes that they make that don't work and are obsolete.
But yeah, here you are worried about $10 mil for potential terrorists.
They are already dead. Hahahahahahahah
...These are not American...
The article said they were. What makes them non-American?
Treason
The other Joe's right – Treason. And for wearing that funny hat...
Drone 'em
Drones cost more than 5m
apply a drone tax to milk and cookies to cover expenses
Time to call Dog the bounty hunter on them!
If we are putting $5 million on these two idiots who have killed a few people, why are we not having a bounty of $25-$50 million for Chapo Guzman – the biggest drug lord in the world who is responsible for thousands of deaths every year. He's not even on the FBI 10 most wanted list. Ooh because these two are TERRORISTS and they are a threat to our national security, Guzman is just a drug lord ie: Big Business. so apparently its okay for him to be responsible for thousands of deaths – just as long as he is not a threat to national security.
He's already in custody. (not by us but I'm sure we helped)
Where's he in custoday? World news and only you know about it?
If you knew you wouldn't be alive to tell it. Somethings are better left unsaid.
A few years back he was briefly in a Mexican prison. But escaped (ie: they let him walk out in fear for their lives). He has been on the run since.
it would have been more, but with the sequester and all...
Chapo Guzman is Not a threat to OUR National Security.
Get some sleep. Nothing to worry about.
What they believe in totally contradicts human rights and personal freedoms which respect is a requisite for being an American citizen.
These guys and any one like them who adopts an ideology of hate and intolerance should be stripped of their American citizenship and prosecuted immediately.
Wouldn't that be a rather stupid thing to do? Or perhaps you think that murder and rape don't "contradicts human rights and personal freedoms which respect is a requisite for being an American citizen" and does " ideology of hate and intolerance should be stripped of their American citizenship and prosecuted immediately.ately." Mean that that KKK and such organizations members should have their citizenship stripped? Perhaps you think its better to just scrap the defense part of trial and just judge them based on what the prosecutor says.
Can't strip them of citizen ship and THEN prosecute them on the charges. The charges are appropriate only because they are citizens. If they are combatants then they fall under a different legal system and are afforded different various rights and protections. If they are not combatants and they are not citizens of the US (because we strip them of that status) then they are people who dislike us and are free to do so.
If the people around this guy are smart they will not turn him in. Not only will they not get the reward money but will probably get killed by the US or their own people.
Rand Paul must be real upset we would have such an assault on these poor boys civil rights. American born terrorists are still terrorists to everyone except the Tea Party.
You don't know much about Rand Paul's positions, do you? He has no problem with arresting and prosecuting any type of criminal, which is the stated intent of this move. He does, however, have a problem with assassinating Americans. Not coincidentally, the Bill of Rights has a problem with that, too.
Rant Paul is a traitor and an enemy of the state. Rant Paul held Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel hostage for 13 hours while Jong-Fat threatened to drone the United States with nuclear missiles. Rogue states and terrorist regimes worldwide have a friend in Rant Paul. Dumb incompetent right wing loser.
Ummm, Everyday tehre are criminals who are killed by police because they are wanted but yet refuse to turn themselves in for prosecution. If they resist, then killing them is the only way to go. So, if they don't want to be killed all they have to do is turn themselves in... Simple.
would have been funny if they said the real names- Mr Jehad Mustafa a.k.a. Herbert Alfred Nutley jr.... lol
Those bounties are a f uckin g joke They never pay up. For example the guy that reported Donner's final location, never got a single penny. I think he is suing now to get the money.
Send in the drones and end it.
Rand Paul will protest and rise to the defense of the terrorists as usual.
Put him on trial EVEN if he dosen't show up, then send in the drones to carryout the exacution!
People that cannot spell "execution" are ill equipped to play judge and jury.
They were already tried in absentia. Read the article
They are MUSLIMS therefore NOT AMERICAN PERIOD. Please EXECUTE ON SIGHT
so if you are a catholic that makes you a pedophile...a religion doesn't make you anything but a member of that religion!!!
Prime example of ignorance in the US – Religious Freedom, you should be aware of it. Muslims are peaceful and just as American as a Christian. Why don't we talk about the Crusades and horrible atrocities that have stemmed from Christianity?
Because the Crusades ended 700 years ago and bombings in Iraq killed over 100 people last week.
Actually, that was the Catholic church, not Christians as a whole.
Brilliant stone-age analysis
wow you don't seem to be an "American" ether more like a Nazi!
sounds like you are no better showing hate and intolerance judge yourself before you pass judgment on others!
Hitler was a Christian too and look what he did.
Hitler was not a Christian, at least not since his early youth. Please stop perpetuating that myth.
Having said that, saying that being a Muslim somehow makes you not an American is an equally ridiculous assertion.
hitler being Christian is debatable but yes I agree the Pope did nothing to condemn what happened during the holocaust which has always been bothersome
what's your phobia against Muslims? there are nut jobs in every group you can imagine...decent law abiding Muslim Americans are every bit as welcome here as any other decent law abiding citizen regardless of their gender, race, religion or any other differentiating background
hundreds of cold blooded murder occur each day in usa surely many are Christians...
you are total nonsense generating more hate and intolerance that there already exists!
and you are Christian I assume? sound very peaceful from what you are saying 🙂 what a joker!
Tell someone from a child support Agency that these two creeps owe back child support. You will have them in custody within a week.
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AMAZING, how Obama gets things done...
...the man is a MACHINE....
Why would this not be possible with another president?
It would most likely be done in secret so that they don't get criticized for killing Americans.
They are lucky I'm not the president, because I would order a question and some answers visit to their families here at home.
What's al-Za(twit)hiri worth?
Did they attend Cal-Berkley to get their terrorist training.
They attended Liberty University. They feel they have the liberty to blow things up!
Well, they have "Due Process" according to Rant Paul. That is, due process to blow up Americans.
It's interesting to note where all these American terrorist come from. From States that are heavily involved in militia groups (anti government rhetoric), predominately conservative States. (red states)
Paints a very interesting picture of who is really behind destroying America. Interesting indeed ..
Yeah but most of them attended college in California which a long way from being a red state.
Yeah, that's the double whammy. Universities ain't healthy either. Not as far as having an educated terrorist.
How does the FBI not know the EXACT age of Mostafa? He was born in Wisconsin....
Better beware who you put a bounty on U.S. After all, Rant Paul might take legal action against you. Do you remember Rant Paul???? Yea, Rant Paul is the guy who held Chuck Hagel hostage for 13 hours while Jong-Fat threatened to drone the United States with nuclear missles. Yes, rogue states and terrorists regimes around the world have a friend in Rant Paul.
those are not Americans.
This is what Obama meant when he wanted to use drones on Americans. These men are dangerous terrorists, looking to harm our people. They are born in the United States. They are american men lead into a horrible ideology that phsycopaths can follow. Most of these guys are anti-government from the red states.
lets the jewish children burn in the hell fire.
It's not happening that way is it? It's Muslim women and children who are suffering instead.
And yet you have no problem with the fact that your prophet mohammad performed oral on camels and goats. strange that you follow someone who practiced bestiality on a daily basis and then made up a false religion for killers.
Each have a bomb with their name engraved and loaded on drones. It's just a matter of time.
I approve this type of bounty – get them before they get us.
extract info; kill them.
Best tax payer's money spend. I also approve
white people smh
These two guys would be better off if they hung themselves.
kill em
The US should not take any prisoners. Just have them executed and end of story.
Do we still get paid if we kill them and send their heads back on ice?
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Drugs are bad ummmmmkay?
Actually it sounds more like DownSideofFame needs some seriously strong drugs, a straight jacket and a nice padded room.
What???
Sound like someone needing mental health services to drop by...
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