Holder: Drone strike against Americans in the U.S. possible
March 5th, 2013
04:46 PM ET

Holder: Drone strike against Americans in the U.S. possible

Attorney General Eric Holder Tuesday stopped short of entirely ruling out a drone strike against an American citizen on U.S. soil—without trial.

Holder’s comment came in a letter to Sen. Rand Paul. Paul had sent a letter to President Obama’s CIA director nominee John Brennan asking for the administration’s views on the president’s power to authorize lethal force.

In the letter, Holder said “It is possible I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. “

In a separate letter, Brennan told Paul that the CIA has no such authority.

The nomination passed its first hurdle Tuesday with the Senate intelligence committee voting to approve the nomination in a 12-3 vote. Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia said he voted against the nomination because of inconsistencies in Brennan's testimony.

Earlier in the day, the White House agreed to provide legal documents written by Justice Department officials explaining the legal rationale for  targeting Americans overseas who are involved in terror-related activities that threatened America or American interests.

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  1. Maverick

    "Look mommy, there's an airplane up in the sky..."

    March 5, 2013 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  2. GetReal

    Americans have always been subject to being killed by their government....Just act up enough and see what happens. This isn't new or news!

    March 5, 2013 at 7:39 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Very true. Walk into a bank with a gun and start shooting, and magically you will find yourself dead.. No trial.. no lawyer. Is this a violation of your rights? No because you were a criminal doing a criminal act.

      Look the drones took out an american who declared war on this country and was a kook. He had it coming. Now for some reason, everyone assumes if it happens to this al quaeda kook it can happen to them? Come on.. Were people crying when their phones could be easily tapped? Were people crying when Internet service providers were forced to install black boxes on their networks provided by the government? No because that was in response to 9/11 and was a PATRIOT Act. Heck, it's Patriotic.. who can go against that?

      Now the same people championing the Patriot act are now concerned that their rights are being violated? THEY might be droned?

      Hippocrates.

      March 8, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Reply
  3. j(nick)

    The government is coming for our weapons then us!

    March 5, 2013 at 7:38 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Nick the goverment doesnt need your weapons to take you out dumb!@#

      They have tanks and armored vehicles.. you dont. They have planes, you don't. They have stinger missles, you dont.

      If the goverment wanted to take anything from little ole nick, they could do so in a moment. There are no guns that can save you.

      So lets stop trying to pretend that you having an AR-15 is going to save you from the government. It's a cop out and we all know it.

      March 8, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Reply
  4. rationalintin

    I am selling drone proof umbrellas, $19.99 each plus shipping and handling.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:38 pm | Reply
  5. Rude

    Psycho "patriots" take over a US installation and want to fire an atomic missle at DC.
    "No Mr. President, you don't have the authority to launch drone strikes against them"

    March 5, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Reply
    • pheloniusphish

      Atomic missiles? Put down the xbox remote, pick up a book. But to answer your question, no.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Reply
      • GetReal

        They are called tactical nuclear missiles!

        March 5, 2013 at 7:48 pm |
    • Scott

      ...HUGE difference between an imminent threat and murdering a person who is not an imminent threat and is certainly not -proven- to be an imminent threat to anyone.

      Al Awlaki was not shown to be aiming a nuke at DC (or anything remotely like that), and his 16-year-old son from Colorado, who was separately targeted and killed, most certainly wasn't.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm | Reply
      • Larry Winkler

        they were killing American soldiers. Good enough for me. You hate Obama so much would support obvious traitors. What does that make you?

        March 5, 2013 at 10:29 pm |
      • Fred Phred

        Scott,

        That kook would kill you or your family if you stood in front of him. Now I don't know about you, but I have seen enough of this guy to know he needed to be removed from this world.

        And do you think his son was any better? Come on..

        We invade a soverign nation with no proof of weapons of WMDs, kill hundreds of thousands (some innocent and some not) and nobody says a word.

        We later kill one american terrorist and suddently this is a problem? Have you all lost it? Stop trying to define people as citizens and non citizens, they're all just people. Some are good and some aren't.

        March 8, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
  6. matt

    wow... drone strikes overseas are a gray area, then against a US citizen overseas brought it further.

    this though is flat out insane. does obama just think he can do anything he wants and ignore his actual duties (and as i type this i realize how obvious that sounds)? and yes, i'd be scared of what a republican pres would think about this too. while hardly worse than castro, this needs to go.

    as for holder, it's even scarier because this isn't even as bad as it gets for him

    March 5, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Reply
    • Larry Winkler

      Does war sound as a good reason? These wars may be undeclared, but they have been authorized.

      March 5, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Reply
    • Fred Phred

      Matt,

      I;m sorry you're so disturbed that a terrorist is dead. Hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq.. oh no problem with that.

      But a citizen of this country droned.. and this is an issue? Do some reading.. learn about what this "citizen" was up to. Understand that he wanted YOU and everybody you know dead. And then see if you want to defend his rights.

      Pathetic..

      March 8, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Reply
  7. Alicia

    It's time to clean out the White House, Congress and Senate people & start over. These are the warning signs.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Reply
  8. blackswan

    COLLATERAL DAMAGE - coming to america now that we have all been educated what that is....AWESOME. We are royally screwed.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Reply
  9. bribarian

    As long Obama stays black, the Obamanites will enjoy every minute of his fascism.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Reply
  10. James

    Just like every other fascist state on the rise, they hide everything in plain sight, and the sight is so incredible people won't believe their own eyes. You'd better open them soon. Lefties are the first to think our Govt. capable of the most heinous crimes everywhere in the world yet doubt the naked Emperor would ever do anything so dastardly to maintain the status quo.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Reply
    • blackswan

      The tragedy is we americans see what is going on but cannot believe it. The government has become people's mom/dad and they believe the government.. Informed people are called conspiracy nuts... This country has been dumbed down and they will have drones to remove future dissent. Land of the free is screwed..

      March 5, 2013 at 7:41 pm | Reply
      • Holder

        Watch out, there's a drone over your house right now!

        March 5, 2013 at 8:04 pm |
      • Larry Winkler

        You are the lead dummy

        March 5, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
  11. dyno8

    How about using them on gangs and corporations that commit fraud?

    March 5, 2013 at 7:29 pm | Reply
  12. Nagendra

    Change people. change for the better. Stop resting on the Laurels of our Forefathers. They have done us good and we have been cheating ourselves and the whole world. Change from being selfish to being Selfless.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Reply
  13. Jeff

    FOX News, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh have caused some SEVER MENTAL DAMAGE in a lot of their followers!! Just read some of these post!!
    Protect our self from "our" government! "The Drones are coming" after everyday citizens!! "Obama is hell bent on destroying America!!"! Blah Blah Blah!! Listen to these nutcases!!

    March 5, 2013 at 7:26 pm | Reply
    • James

      It is spelled 'severe', not 'sever' (like to cut an arm off)...never met a Lefty who could spell past four letter words

      March 5, 2013 at 7:32 pm | Reply
      • Ricky

        I could say the same about every righty I've met.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
      • WhackyWaco

        I like the response even if I am left-handed.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
    • Ian

      Obama's administration has killed hundreds more "combatants" and innocent bystanders with drones than the "warmongers" in the Bush administration ever dreamed of killing. Even the NYT has reported on this insane irony. Since the Obama administration refuses to articulate its drone assassination policy, it's entirely plausible that Americans in the U.S. could be targeted eventually.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:33 pm | Reply
      • Larry Winkler

        You've conveniently forgotten all the innocent Iraqis Bush killed, somewhere about 50,000 at last count. Bombing of hospitals, power plants, schools, museums. Obama is nowhere in Bushes league.

        March 6, 2013 at 1:45 am |
    • McClure

      Hannity and Limbaugh don't have to say ANYTHING! Holder is admitting they could actually propose KILLING AN AMERICAN on AMERICAN SOIL without any trial. That is TOTALLY against everything that this country stands for. All that whining about water-boarding and torture is nothing compared to MURDER!

      March 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Reply
  14. billybill

    Violating an american citizens rights to due process on US soil, yikes.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:23 pm | Reply
  15. marctheduck

    LOL – these are the same liberals that wrung their hands over waterboarding, over extraordinary rendition, over Gitmo. What a joke! What hypocrats!

    March 5, 2013 at 7:23 pm | Reply
    • William

      It's not the Democrats or Republicans that is supporting this. It's the industrial military complex that has grown so large over the last few generations that has allowed something like this to even become a possibility in this country. The sooner we stop pointing fingers across the isles at each other the quicker we can start attacking the REAL enemy in this country.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:51 pm | Reply
  16. massoud

    This is what you get when you have a neo -fascist in the White House, an iron fist inside of a Velvet glove.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:22 pm | Reply
  17. blackswan

    The fact that republicans do nothing all these tells me all of them are in bed together..... We are screwed fellow americans...

    March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Reply
    • William

      You're right. It's a certain few that have gotten together to take complete control of this country and it's citizenry. It's time that this country's citizens stop playing petty politics and root out those that are really ruining this country.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Reply
  18. flyitupsidedown

    When the American people have to live in fear of their own government, it's time for a new government. Stories like this are a good part of the reason some Americans arm themselves to the teeth.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Reply
  19. bankrupt1

    No doubt the banksters would do the same to us as they do to every other country. Shut them down.

    Free Bradley Manning too.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Reply
  20. blackswan

    This is scary.. Slowly they will send drones and target people on freeways just for political dissent , internet comments against government etc etc. Slippery slope... We are screwed .. completely screwed...

    March 5, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Reply
  21. Evelyn Withall

    Wasn't there a little something about an impeachment? And a conviction?
    Time to revisit that, before we all wind up in the stuff.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Reply
  22. Chukar

    First strike should be on this Idiots head

    March 5, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Reply
    • kumar

      this is not an ideological battle between left vs right, GOP vs Dems, Statism vs liberty. This is ethnic warfare against white people.

      Love to all, hatred to no one, but why are hostile globalist elite supporting Israel as a Jewish ethnostate with Jewish only immigration, but turning white majority Europe and North America into a multi-ethnic multi-cultural Gulag with dystopian non-White colonization?

      Why do gullible Whites kowtow like puppies to hostile Jewish elite, who maim White soldiers in bankrupting wars, infiltrate and subvert our central banks and intelligence agencies, indoctrinate us in classrooms and mass media, impose trillions in debt, and plunder our wages?

      East Asia is 99% yellow. Africa is 99% Black. West Asia is 99% Brown. But 3rd world colonizers are annihilating Whites, just as Chinese colonizers are annihilating Tibet. That is the endgame.

      "Native" Americans are not native. They invaded from East Asia. They massacred Solutrean White Europeans, who came first. Whites were not the only slave owners, imperialists. Muslims, Jews, Chinese, Indians, Mayans, Africans all are guilty of slavery, imperialism. Whites were victims of Arab, Jewish, Turk, African, Mongol imperialism, slavery.

      White people should reject suicidal anti-White Jewish ideological plagues like libertarianism, feminism, liberalism, socialism. Whites should reject venomous smears of racism and anti-sem iti sm.

      Love to all, hatred to no one, but White people must unite and organize to advance their families, their fertility, their interests.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Reply
      • blackswan

        SPOT ON !! Its scary how people are fighting among themselves saying GOP / DEMOCRATS ETC... Its two sides of same coin.. I am an immigrant like you and can see through this.... American sheep wake up. Its not LIBERALS/ REPUBLICans.. there are powerful sources acting in the background inthe shadows. Dont call me conspiracy nut case.. i have 3 degrees...

        March 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm |
      • Ron

        lol Kumar! I am betting that there are one or more swastika tattoos somewhere on your body.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:58 pm |
      • dave little

        wow, racist much?

        March 5, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
  23. BigT

    One of the problems with Drone strikes on American soil will be collateral damage. We'll have drones killing 70 people at a wedding because the drone recognized 1 guest as a terrorist. I'm sure you've read about these drone strikes overseas and they don't always hit their intended target.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Reply
    • Chris

      I saw that movie..

      March 5, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Reply
    • Evelyn Withall

      Another (problem?) will be an almost immediate impeachment proceeding.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Reply
      • blackswan

        You were asleep the country changed from a decade ago... America has gone down the toilet because patriot act, NDAA, fema, drones u name it...

        March 5, 2013 at 7:33 pm |
    • William

      I find it amazing how you don't see the very IDEA of a drone attack ANYWHERE in the world as cowardly and dishonorable. A war is only a war when both side know they are being engaged. Drone attacks are assassinations, and cowardly ones at best. Drone strikes remove all thought and emotion from the "soldier" perpetrating them. All the operator is doing is pointing a gun and shooting at a target from miles, maybe a continent away with no knowledge of why he's doing it. This is imperialistic unjust and should be an illegal form of warfare.

      March 5, 2013 at 8:08 pm | Reply
    • Larry Winkler

      What collateral damage. Who says the drones that might be used are war-grade? However, Holder's scenario of taking down the WTC planes certainly would be. But, then Bush authorized the military do perform that mission in case such a scenario would happen again. Drone vs piloted jet - no diff.

      March 5, 2013 at 10:40 pm | Reply
  24. kevin

    Doesn't the National Guard have legal authority to use lethal force within the united states? What is different from an Air National Guard helecopter with a pilot and a National Guard Drone with no pilot?

    The Governer of each state can call up the National Guard in emergencies, why not use drones. What's the problem.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Reply
    • Water into beer

      Yea, the National Guard...Kent State comes to mind. Give your head a shake.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      The problem is that a helicopter pilot is a human being sent out on a mission, and can reason and empathize like a human being. A drone jockey sitting in an underground bunker hundreds of miles away operating a joystick on a television screen is just as capable of killing, but in a very dehumanized way. It removes whatever slight moral dilemma is involved in killing a fellow human being.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Reply
      • Larry Winkler

        You misjudge the effects on drone pilots. Recent reports indicate that these drone pilots do suffer from PTSD. Another point is that a jet flying at the speed of sound, and under orders to, say protect, the airspace of secure sites, what real judgment does or should a pilot have.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
  25. JCal

    This country has changed a lot! There is a reason that Fidel Castro was never assassinated, nor were a number of terrorists, including Saddam Hussein (pre-war), etc. It has always been against American principal to resort to "murder" – justified or not – to achieve our political goals and protect our country.

    You don't have to be very old to see how a similar problem – civil liberties – have been shelved in lieu of "protection against terrorism." We have so many less freedoms now than a dozen years ago that it is mind-boggling. If things keep on that course what kind of America will people be living in by the middle of the century?

    We have to live by our own example. That means not to violate liberties in the name of liberties. This is not political – but rather a simple definition of what America is all about.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Reply
  26. jonat

    Aren't you glad liberals care about you???

    March 5, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Reply
    • BK

      Coming from someone that is probably foolish enough to think conservatives care about them.

      Wake up. NO ONE in Washington cares about you.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:26 pm | Reply
  27. allens

    o.k. i voted for these guys 2x. they have snapped to even think about it. holden should be fired and anyone involved in that as well. now, not later. bad enough congress has declared war on the president and the middle class. this is Irresponsible

    March 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Reply
    • bucdale

      Should have done your homework. It's not like these guys have hidden their playbook, they told everyone what they were going to do... They just have their lemmings out there cheering him on not really paying attention to what they are cheering for.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      Allen – Wow only twice. Many of Obama's cult following voted him a dozen or more times in each election. You didn't do your part. How long will it be before people realize 1. Obama doesn't have a clue and 2. He stuck down a rabbit hole...

      March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Reply
  28. No one

    Remember now, it won't be an act of war because no person is in the weapon.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Reply
    • BK

      Drones are still physically controlled by people; they aren't self-aware. There is a person that effectively pulls the trigger.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:25 pm | Reply
  29. Dan

    Figures, Holder, Mr. Fast & Furious himself. He is the true terrorist in this gov't.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
  30. craig

    why should we believe what holder says he doesn't even know what goes on in his own department

    March 5, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Reply
  31. JJ

    YIKES!!!!!!!!!!
    WTH is happening to America?

    March 5, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • Grey

      The public voted in leadership that has no understanding of what this country was founded on. That's what.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Reply
      • pureflatulence

        gee, i gots peeps i would like to target. what a buzzkill you are.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
    • blackswan

      We are screwed in our police state. They can kill us using a drone and say u are a maniac, terrorist.. we are screwed by our own government...

      March 5, 2013 at 7:23 pm | Reply
  32. oldleftcoastdude

    Good grief!! just the fact that he wouldn't rule it out is scary enough.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Reply
  33. ryan

    are we so pro obama that we forget we are suposed have rights!!! as free americans

    March 5, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Reply
    • jon

      When people decide they want their rights they will bear arms and fight for them.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:06 pm | Reply
      • jon

        Well that is unless the gun flow becomes controlled.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
      • Matthew

        MLK, Ghandi, Mandela all achieved rights for millions without arms. Unless you are ready to fight the U.S. military (assuming you manage to get too big for S.W.A.T.) then your gun isn't going to help much in that pursuit.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
      • Bob

        Matthew: MLK, Ghandi yes. Mandela – no. The ANC had plenty of arms and was responsible for numerous car bombs etc. Mandela was head of the ANC.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:17 pm |
      • Avi

        Matthew, wrong. You are assuming the US military is going to turn their guns on American citizens following govt orders. Not happening. It might actually result in mutinies. Even if your long shot possibility comes true, imagine a 100 m armed citizens Vs 1m troops scattered all over the country. Not even a close fight.

        March 5, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
    • Matthew

      No we (Obama supporters) absolutely should hold the administration's feet to the fire to change this policy. I'm a bigger fan of Due Process than Barack Obama.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Reply
      • Avi

        Matthew, i don't think you are a great Obama fan. I hope you are aware that all this ruckus is related to the 'Anwar Al Maliki' event in Yemen. The US is at war and Anwar decided to work with the enemy. He is a traitor and fits the description of enemy combatant. He has failed at attempts to create mass killings on US soil – but continued non the less. He deserved what he got – legally too. You sound more like a Rand Paul (Delusional Presidential Candidate 2016) supporter. Enough of this libertarian b.s from the pauls.

        March 5, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
    • Studypeople

      Read about the Civil War sometime. American Citizens were shot with no questions asked. Take up arms against the United States....and you are the Enemy.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
      • Avi

        If you take-up arms individually to fight one-on-one with the US govt, you would right-fully be called a lunatic. There is legal recourse for most individual grievances. On the other hand if you take-up arms in a really mass movement, (no occupy movements here) like a civil war (i don't think there will be another as long as we have all the social safety nets) against a govt, i can guarantee, you would at least not be consider a lunatic.

        March 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
    • Grey

      Only those who voted for him have been fooled. Sadly, its the majority of the US.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
      • Dan

        I doubt it was the majority, this election just like the last was cooked.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • Nagendra

      Yes Ryan. We Americans have lost that freedom because of our selfishness.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Reply
    • bob

      Can you really not envision a logical and reasonable use of force by a drone on US soil?

      Would you be ok with striking a convoy of a few cars that is proven to have a large explosive device and the intent to use it if they are heading towards a large city? If there is no other means to stop it, I would say that it would be logical to take it out with a drone.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • chutrit

      My right to protection from a terrorist attack, like on 9/11, can e invoked. I would rather lose a piece of hardware than an American soldier.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • Avi

      .... easy 'Paul' Ryan. 2016 is still a long way to go!

      March 5, 2013 at 11:50 pm | Reply
  34. ug

    Just because Holder says that they can do it doesn't mean they can...I see this going to court...LOL!

    March 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm | Reply
    • jurado

      Its in court now in newyork. Google chris hedges drones.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Reply
  35. AT

    Ummm, 'Real Truth' Guy, since you're going to make an issue of spelling and grammar ...

    Sorry bud, but there are plenty of idiots on the left as well.

    It ain't just the righties who can't spell, or in your case – properly conjugate a verb. You needed to say either 'You've forfeited' or 'You forfeit'. Either way, sorry, but you're the idiot here.

    March 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm | Reply
  36. Karen

    C'mon Holder, you arms merchant, now you're just sounding like an idi0t.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Reply
  37. Patrick in Wisconsin

    I seriously don't see why people (Republicans) are throwing a fit over this. All drones are are unmanned aircraft which are basically small attack aircraft. Would they rather us send in our A-10s or AC-130s? I highly doubt it. This is the 21st century people. If you can't break through a wall, go over it.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Reply
    • pheloniusphish

      Seriously!?! You can't see anything wrong with the government killing an American citizen with no trial? We dont like his politics so lets just drop a hellfire into his living room? If you're okay with that you don't deserve to live in this country. Mindboggling.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • bucdale

      Could it be because drones don't have the ability to question orders?????

      March 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Reply
  38. feickus

    Hopefully the Supreme Court sees this as a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. In simple terms unless the person who operates the remote control plane is a member of federal, state, or local law enforcement, it would take an act of congress to authorize a member of the military to attack American citizens.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:58 pm | Reply
    • blackswan

      If I am correct that act has been repealed hush hush...

      March 5, 2013 at 7:44 pm | Reply
  39. Larry Winkler

    If anyone would care to read the Holder letter, Holder is actually questioning whether any President has such an authority, and says simply that it is possible. His examples of where it might be deemed possible is attacks similar to Pearl Harbor, and the Twin Tours attack of 9/11.

    I would also like to point out that the military currently has the authority (and I'm not sure if the President even needs to authorize it), to shoot down planes entering into secure airspaces within the US. At this time, the Air Force scrambles jets to intercept and try to visually contact the plane and pilot and direct or force the plane down. They are also authorized to shoot it down. If this is allowed to be done by the military without the okay of the President (that is there is a standing order, and I suppose Congress has been involved in okaying this - it isn't a secret, obviously), then I would assume a drone could be used for the same purpose. Holder didn't mention this, but it would seem the obvious extension to using drones is not out of the question.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:58 pm | Reply
    • jboHDrider

      Niether of those attacks was conducted by an American...

      March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Reply
      • Larry Winkler

        Yes, but hundreds of absolutely innocent Americans were on board, and killing a handful of terrorists while necessarily killing 100s of passengers makes that a use of killing these Americans without trial. I would guess, it's just a guess, that all the American's on board would be found innocent.

        What do you think?

        March 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
  40. peterfrohwein

    What happens when a terrorist hacks (takes control of) one of these armed drones over US territory ???
    How many Hell Fire missiles do these carry ?
    Even without missiles these drones would make great kamikaze weapons in the wrong hands.

    Who thinks these are a good idea ???

    March 5, 2013 at 6:58 pm | Reply
    • Patrick in Wisconsin

      What happens if a terrorist takes control of one of our A-10s or AC-130s? Oh thats right, that hasn't happened.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Reply
      • Bryceson Cabading

        It would be impossible to take control of an AC-130 without physically modifying the plane. That isn't the case with drones.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
    • Jeff

      Anybody could build something equal to a DRONE with remote control planes available at your local hobby Shop!!

      March 5, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Reply
      • jboHDrider

        Right, they have all those missles and machine guns down at the hobby store. Jesus, really?

        March 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm |
      • Jeff

        Get your head out of Hannity & Rush's butt and go see what is "really out there" sport!
        Youtube it if you can turn off Fox TV long enough.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:28 pm |
  41. boyamidumb

    Now then truth is clear. It is the people who control our politicians against "We the people"

    The time is near. Sound crazy. ..... Well one to the new world.

    It ismTHEM v.s. us

    March 5, 2013 at 6:57 pm | Reply
  42. Amerikkka Uber All

    Any question that our own government is the greatest enemy we have?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  43. Pro-2ndAmendment

    Here you go folks... This is why the 2nd amendment, AR15s and high capacity mags are needed; to protect ourselves against a tyrannical government.... you keep asking, here is the answer, this is only the start.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm | Reply
    • Realist

      Yeah, your Security Blankie -i.e. your guns – are going to be REEEAALLY effective against a drone cruising at 20000 ft. What protects us against tyranny are not the guns, but our votes. But you keep thinking your blankie protects you Big Guy

      March 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Reply
      • wrknonit

        you're really so stupid as to think that voting makes a difference? The US gov't answers only to the oligarchy – the british and european banking famillies. Politics is strictly a show for the stupid ignorant masses of US people who deserve to be butchered at the hands of their own military for allowing their military to butcher everyone else all across the globe. Moron.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
      • clogs

        The taliban have held on for a long time with little more than small arms and explosives.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm |
      • Usama Bin Laden

        You're right there's zero reason to fear the US government and military. The US military can't defeat 25,000 Taliban soldiers, lost Vietnam, lost North Korea, and needed two wars to get Saddam Hussein. They would get slaughtered if they engaged US citizens. Drones won't be an option anyways unless they want the backlash from the collateral damage they cause. Seriously what could they possibly do? Start dropping hellfire missiles in the middle of major metro areas like NYC, LA, or Chicago? The government fears the armed public and rightfully so.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:13 pm |
      • jboHDrider

        IF you think we can't defend ourselves as an armed nation, you are certainly no realist. It is not a "blankie" and that is why sheeple like you are trying to take them away...They scare you and you are to chicken to even be concerned with defending yourself. You are actually dumb enough to think that the cops are there to protect you. Keep being a victim and baaa when you need help.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • Patrick in Wisconsin

      If you think your AR-15 can stand up to the world's largest military, you are soundly mistaken.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:04 pm | Reply
      • pheloniusphish

        If you think the world's best military will act against their feloow Americans you are sadly mistaken. Obviously you have never served.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
      • jboHDrider

        OUr military will not attack us and as someone else stated it is obvious that you have never served. The police on the other hand have no compunctions about taking away your rights...

        March 5, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
      • Usama Bin Laden

        Your mighty US military can't even defeat 25,000 Taliban soldiers. Try fighting 80,000,000 armed US citizens with access to 300 million firearms, and billions of rounds of ammo. If I were a US soldier I would not follow orders to engage any US citizen unless I had a death wish.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
      • esu589

        He is gutting our military.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:33 pm |
  44. cosmotwo

    The only thing to fear is our own governement. And the wonder hy we are stocking up on ammo!

    March 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm | Reply
    • TAK

      I'm stocking up on ammo to protect myself from traitors and seditionists wearing NRA hats on their heads and crosses around their necks..

      March 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Reply
  45. Rocky

    Too many even..

    March 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Reply
  46. Rocky

    Such talk from REAL Americans.... Too man traitors in here..

    March 5, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  47. allen

    The very first military strike on US soil should absolutely trigger a civil war. By law, The US military cannot engage in any action on an American citizen on US soil. If you let this get by you.....you are in a very large amount of trouble

    March 5, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
    • oneWayfarer

      Posse Comitatus Anyone?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Reply
      • allen

        I am in. Sounds like some organization is in order. I never dreamed something like this would come from our capitol....yet,here it is

        March 5, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • Patrick in Wisconsin

      Ever heard of The Civil War but?

      March 5, 2013 at 7:05 pm | Reply
  48. oneWayfarer

    We Don't Need No STINKING Badges! – A Drone Strike in the Middle of the Night may SOUND Terrifying but the EFFECT is Nothing new. I Live in rural Washington State but I imagine in Cities what I have observed is even MORE common. Last year a Local Man was asleep in his Apartment Complex when he heard a loud noise and someone breaking into his house. He grabbed his gun by the Bed and fired. The SWAT Team Outside Returned AUTOMATIC WEAPONS Fire Through the Walls of his and his NEIGHBORS Apartments including those with SLEEPING CHILDREN. It was Later Learned they were at the WRONG Apartment Building.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:47 pm | Reply
    • RichieRich

      Bummer. They aren't rich and we don't care.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Reply
  49. Richard

    Neat. The government can protect us from terrorists using drones right here on American soil. But, who's going to protect us from the government?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:47 pm | Reply
    • oneWayfarer

      Terrorists

      March 5, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • ratatatat1

        No doubt Richard would be the first one to scream that the President wasn't keeping us safe! Lol.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm |
    • Mike

      The 2nd Amendment!

      March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Reply
    • cosmotwo

      Terrorists like George Washington once was thought of.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Reply
      • ratatatat1

        You feel that way about Kalid Sheikh Mohamed?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • RichieRich

      The Gun industry and their republican slaves. Bushmasters anyone?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Reply
    • Patrick in Wisconsin

      You're votes. We live in a developed stable democracy, not a third world country where guns literally roam the streets.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:06 pm | Reply
      • BigT

        Some of the inner cities here in America certainly appear to be 3rd world with lots of guns roaming the streets. If guns aren't roaming the streets how are so many being killed in cities like Chicago?

        March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
  50. Larry Winkler

    Remember, local police forces are requesting drones for their use. So, don't just think it's the Feds. It's state and local police forces also. Also, government organizations such as Interior and state DNR's want to use drones for monitoring fire conditions and environmental conditions. Add to that, state transportation depts want to use drones also for traffic monitoring. Add drones for monitoring storms, tornados, hurricanes, etc.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Reply
    • jboHDrider

      I am sure there are legal uses for drones, killing our citizens without a trial is not one of them.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Reply
  51. Langor

    That is one scary SOB. It seems that our government is gearing up to fight Americans, not fight for Americans.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Reply
    • ratatatat1

      You don't think it could be used against terrorists? That didn't even enter your little mind?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
      • cosmotwo

        Read your history, Hitler post was Germany. So are you a Muslim?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:55 pm |
      • ratatatat1

        cosmotwom Get back to me when you can form a cogent question. Thanks.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
      • jboHDrider

        No it should not be used against any American citizen. No where in the constintution does it say that the president has the right to kill citizens without a fair trail and this is our governments next step in it's war on it's citizens. The same ploy is being played out in this attempt to disarm us as well.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
    • TAK

      Seems that certain Americans (right wing militias, NRA... Texas) are gearing up to fight the democratically elected government so maybe it's prudent for the government to be prepared.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Reply
    • Karen

      Trust me, they're not stupid enough to Hellfire missile Americans.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Reply
  52. David

    Remember the Weather Underground was a domestic terror organization, I wonder how Bill Ayers feels about this? Under this he could have been a target.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Reply
    • ratatatat1

      How Bill Ayers feels is irrelevant. If you live by the sword, you have at a minimum tacitly accepted to die by it. No?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Reply
      • David

        The point I was making was that the President is a close friend of Bill Ayers (a former terrorist) so the way the president has a very subjective view of how a terrorist is defined...that should be a worry.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
    • Swatguy

      Doubtful, Eric and King Barack wouldn't hose a supporter.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  53. theOracle

    that pic is photoshopped. Look at the shadows and lack of shadows.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:43 pm | Reply
  54. Perez Studios

    Whether they get approved or not that is not going to stop the government from doing it anyways. Hell, they have been doing illegal activities for years and they get away with it because of who they are. Don't waste your time and the taxpayers time fighting over it. Just hurry up and get Obama out of office!

    March 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • mistamista

      Yeah, hurry up! We want to get another Bush in office ASAP so we can be striped of our rights and invade countries without following any protocols of the Geneva Convention Accord. DERP!

      March 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Reply
  55. Scott L.

    what goes around comes around...

    March 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Reply
  56. Joe

    They charged a 3rd grader with being a terrorist for drawing pictures of guns... according to the law, they could just drone strike that child. Not saying they would... but this is bad.

    You write anti-government things on forums... suddenly you're an enemy of the government and a target. Who's to say they won't kill you next time you're out in the mountains enjoying the day? Who's gonna know? The news report will just say "He was murdered by while getting robbed" or somesuch.

    Bad, bad idea...

    March 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm | Reply
  57. cja

    President Lincoln did EXACTLY what Holder said: "authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States."

    So yes one possible use of such force is if some rebel group raided an Army and attacked the government. How large the Attack must be before the DoD and not the local police used I don't know. But the obvious example is the US Civi War.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Reply
    • Joe

      They charged a 3rd grader with being a terrorist for drawing pictures of guns... according to the law, they could just drone strike that child. Not saying they would... but this is bad.

      You write anti-government things on forums... suddenly you're an enemy of the government and a target. Who's to say they won't kill you next time you're out in the mountains enjoying the day? Who's gonna know? The news report will just say "He was murdered by while getting robbed" or somesuch.

      Bad, bad idea... such a bad idea.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm | Reply
      • ratatatat1

        So you would tie the President's hands from taking out a terrorist if a drone were the only option based on that argument?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
  58. bribarian

    Pretty clear Washington has become Anti-American.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Reply
  59. lance

    Let's paint a target on the top of Wayne LaPierre's head and do America a big favor.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Reply
    • vet4life63

      No lets paint a target on lance's head instead.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Reply
      • Langor

        Agreed that Lance is the real target, but not with drones.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
  60. Mike

    Holder is a servant of the devil.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm | Reply
    • Priscilla E. Kelley

      This reminds me of the Patriot Act passed under GW Bush. Anyone ever read it?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:46 pm | Reply
      • Jared

        I did read it. Then I read it again after Obama approved of and expanded it.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
    • Priscilla E. Kelley

      This reminds me of the Patriot Act passed under GW Bush. Anyone ever read it? Also, drones can now be made the size of insects to pass through a very small opening.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  61. Randy, San Francisco

    Will the NRA fight laws prohibiting citizens from owning armed drones?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm | Reply
    • Langor

      Are you not the least bit chilled by Holders statement? I'll bet if you are attacked from the air you'll be looking for someone with a weapon to protect YOU.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Reply
      • ratatatat1

        You honestly think you could be a target? Paranoid much?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
  62. jon

    Currently drone strikes are used outside of the US on "suspected" terrorist. Innocent people are suspected of things in the US all the time.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  63. swohio

    Gee, imagine that. A group of terrorists hiding out in an apartment complex in a major city, and the U.S. takes them out with a drone....along with a lot of other innocent people living in the apartment complex.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • nbgb

      It is not necessary. If you focus on the Waco incident, a helicopter was adequate.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Reply
    • gee

      like in south Chicago and Detroit? makes sense..

      March 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Reply
  64. davetharave

    It's OK with me as long as I'm not the target.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm | Reply
    • peterfrohwein

      Not a problem. If you own a smart phone with GPS you will be an easy target.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Reply
      • Mike

        Dont have one.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
  65. Steve Lyons

    Hitler used the military too... without trial.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm | Reply
  66. Mike

    You know im not scared of these drones or the gooberment. I have a more powerful friend on my side....."Jesus." I hate to send a memo to the U.S. and the gooberment doesnt matter what technology you have "God" has said America's time will come and go. It doesnt matter what the U.S. gooberment has in contingency plans they dont have one big enough to tie God's hands. And this world and America time is coming to an end soon either the U.S. gooberment likes it or not. God has told us... All this stuff has to come to pass with weather changing, nation against nation, and famine and disease become the end of days. Sorry, U.S. gooberment even you cant stop this!

    March 5, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Reply
  67. Jason Wang

    I also predict a lot of drones will be looking for terrorists hiding near Hugh Hefner's Playboy mansion or sneaking onto the shores of Florida's South Beach.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:31 pm | Reply
  68. disqusinator

    They are banning assault rifles because they don't want people shooting the drones down. Pistols are responsible for the vast majority of murders in Chicago each year and the Biden Approved Shotgun could take out a room full of school children much more effectively than an assault rifle. But they're not trying to ban the shotgun or the pistol. Once again, the bleeding heart liberals use backward logic and demagoguery to advance their secret agenda of converting the population into mindless slaves who are eternally dependent upon them, thus maintaining their position of power.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:31 pm | Reply
    • peterfrohwein

      How do you shoot a drone down (with any rifle) which is 5 miles away ?
      (Hell Fire missile max range)

      March 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Reply
      • Dale B

        Umm......

        Why bother shooting? They =still= haven't fixed the encryption control issues. Jam the puppy and watch the remote controlled plane faw down go boom. Hellfire is a laser follower. Know how easy those are to spoof? Unless they use a modulated pulse, any designator you can get at a gun show will confuse the seeker. Refractive plastic on the target will do the same; bounce the laser off at an angle. If you need to go really low tech, just start a very smoky fire. The designator won't accurately penetrate smoke. Or fog. Move to a moist valley and let Mother Nature obscure you at nights and part of the year. Drones are nifty tools that can easily be misused.....but they are just machines. And like any machine, they have vulnerabilities; some rather simple to exploit.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • strummer

      They're taking away assault rifles so we can't shoot down drones? After a really crappy day I needed some comic relief. Thanks for laugh!

      March 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • cja

      Are you nuts? Use an AR15 on an aircraft? the problems with that is (1) the bulets do not go that far, the riffle lacks the requited range and (2) it is not early accuracy enough. The "kick" for the first round causes the second round to be un-aimed.

      To shoot one down you'd need either an antiwar missile or a radar guided AA gun.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Reply
  69. Chuck Woolery

    All Your Base Are Belong To Us...

    March 5, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Reply
    • You Big Dumdum

      You make a no sense, you big dumdum

      March 5, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Reply
      • TAK

        How about you google that phrase if you don't get the joke, dumdum.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
  70. John

    Why don't we use these to target the drug cartels in Mexico??

    March 5, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Reply
    • gee

      ..cause they are trade partners..

      March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Reply
  71. Jason Wang

    The National Security Act of 1947, which created the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), explicitly forbade it from operating in a law-enforcement or internal security capacity. The Posse Comitatus Act also forbade the military from taking a role in domestic law enforcement. But what's an act of Congress compared to the whims of Emperor Obama?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
    • cja

      Holder said it could be done in an extreme case: What if a group of americans joined a foreign party what has already declared war on the US?

      Do not worry to much about Obama, HE at least did not start two useless wars like the guy before him. Obama's fault is not getting out fast enough.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Reply
      • FutureSEAL

        So Iraq and Afghanistan were useless? They were dragged out but I guess the next time 3000 Americans are killed we shouldn't do anything right?

        March 5, 2013 at 9:06 pm |
  72. Tim Leahey

    Good God! If we allow them to start using drones on US soil against US citizens, pretty soon everyong is a legitimate target based upon how loosely the definition of terrorist is applied.

    Very bad idea.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
    • Peace

      That is for your own good!!!!! For the protection of the US citizens, remember?

      March 5, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Reply
    • peterfrohwein

      Agreed ! Very, Very bad idea !

      March 5, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Reply
  73. finngodo

    This isn't kill order on anyone. He's saying it's possible. Meaning a domestic terrorist if other options weren't viable. If that terrorist was in an urban area it would be impossible- but if holed up in in the wilderness quite feasible to locate and take him out quite effectively.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
    • ISmellPoop

      Define domestic terror.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      I understand that it "isn't a kill order". However the very fact that it's even remotely possible is beyond scary. I don't know why people act nonchalant about this.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm | Reply
    • Lee

      Without a trial, without due process, without any sense of justice? You actually approve of this. I think Holder needs to go if he thinks this could even be remotely possible.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Reply
  74. tdd303

    David is right, what happened to the bill of rights and innocent until proven guilty? And let's not forget that drone strikes usually kill a good amount of innocent bystanders. Are we all going to have to start living with the fear that we may be near a target and we may become collateral damage? Are we going to have to worry about our children becoming collateral damage when they're at baseball practice or soccer practice?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      i guess if they use drones and kids are collateral damage it will be the NRA's fault. The great part is i have "Jesus" on my side they can kill this body all they want....my soul is bought and paid for thru the blood of "Jesus." Remember there's something better waiting for us all than all this. Always remember that people God's in control not Odumbo or the U.S. gooberment. Yep, they can kill you but they cant kill your soul. For some reason the U.S. hasnt gotten the memo that God's already got a time and hr that the world and America will be destroyed it doesnt matter what technology they have.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:46 pm | Reply
  75. scott

    I wont bother to read the article, I just want to know will the drone be a u.s. one?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:24 pm | Reply
    • gee

      good question.. what about non us drones vs us ones over our heads, how we can find it after..??

      March 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  76. republic forever

    this makes sense...otherwise the Indian wars....the war against the "cowboys"...the spanishamerican war.....and the war against the confederacy would never happened...remember all those people were also born and were living within the borders of the USA and those were sanctioned killings and precedent setting....soon they should be used on canadian drug kingpins...

    March 5, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Reply
  77. gman

    Anyone who thinks the govt doesn't have contingency plans that involve direct confrontation with American citizens are living on Hello Kitty Island. They always have, and they always will. The only difference is the technology. During Bush it was special ops to keep American's from running on the banks if a financial meltdown occurred – Today its unmanned drones. Nothing different but the technology.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm | Reply
  78. HZ

    Drones won't be used in the U.S. for the simple fact that drone missiles are very expensive. The FBI isn't going to want to spend $500k or more worth of missles at a rusted pickup truck in the U.S. When the Pentagon does the same thing in a foreign warzone it's considered normal. Can domestic policing department budgets handle it? I don't think so. Besides, collateral damage? If you accidentally blow up a school bus full of kids in Afghanistan, that's one thing. Doing it in the U.S. carries way harsher political consequences.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm | Reply
    • HZ

      And just to clarify, I'm not saying kids in one country are worth more than another. I am just talking about the political realities.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Reply
  79. Tom

    How would this not be a clear violation of The Posse Comitatus Act?

    March 5, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Reply
    • A. W.

      Tom, you seem to forget that this administration does.not.care about the law.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
      • Brent

        Why do you think Homeland securty is buying 1 Billion rounds of ammo for.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:32 pm |
  80. hogarth

    This is a non-issue, except to those oddball citizens who view the government as "them" instead of "us".

    March 5, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Reply
    • Snyphilis

      Do you honestly think that politicians have our best interests at heart? Seriously?

      If so I have some amazing oil to sell you. I will give you a great deal.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      Yea, thank you for your statement. Now put your head back in the sand.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm | Reply
      • nunya

        and wait for high tide...

        March 5, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
  81. David Crosby

    The time may be rapidly approaching when we have to take up arms against the Federals in order to preserve any freedom we have left...

    March 5, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Reply
    • WhatsamattaU

      Were you to take up arms against the legally elected government of the US, you would be committing treason. Somewhat severe penalties for that kind of nonsense. You got a problem, run for office, vote for people with similar views, and if you don't win, put your guns away and STFU.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Reply
      • S1N

        It's only considered treason if you lose.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
      • bucdale

        When Dear Leader decides to have the DOJ start labeling his political enemies as "Potential Domestic Terrorists" and then talks about using drones. Taking up arms may be your only defense.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:46 pm |
    • allenwoll

      .
      DC - You had better watch your back if I am about !
      .
      I will NOT support insurrection.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
      • bucdale

        King George had his loyalists in the Colonies during the Revolutionary War too. Think about that.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm |
    • Tony Manning

      Exactly why I think they want to take away guns that we might be able to protect ourselves or defend our rights with.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Reply
  82. gman

    Roaming bands of vandals going from neighborhood to neighborhood during an infrastructural terrorist attack – A couple of hell-fires would not hurt my feelings one bit. Don't like Holder, but he's correct that contingencies need to be available.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Reply
    • exGMan

      Well said...

      March 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Reply
  83. drc

    If Bush was proposing this the looney libs would be protesting in the streets. Rachael Maddow would be on a tyrade for weeks....but wait, it's Obama and his clowns so...give ANOTHER pass to the clown-in-chief.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Reply
  84. Raul

    And they want to ban assault rifles, why? I think I may go buy a couple,, if I can find any.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Reply
    • exGMan

      Have fun stroking your weapon tonite loser.. You should be on your knee's thanking President Obama. If it wasn't for him, the gun industry wouldn't be prospering the way they are today. Employee's working two shifts, making bank with overtime. As for the ban, big deal, there's ton's of assault weapons out there on the secondary market for you to buy. After the ban takes affect, the prices will skyrocket... Sounds like a nice profit for someone. Get on your kness republikkkans, Obama is creating jobs and increasing values on weapons...and you're all still whinning away......

      March 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Reply
  85. Sergio

    I guess the drones will replace the black helicopters…

    March 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Reply
  86. John Jay

    Not surprising since this is how they killed Randy Weaver's wife.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Reply
    • bigmac

      Vicki Weaver was killed by an FBI sniper on the ground, not by a drone in the sky.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Reply
  87. CW

    Obama voters you own this. Bush was only the tip of the iceberg.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:11 pm | Reply
    • niceT

      OK then bush fan you own TSA, Homeland, Fake wars, etc.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Reply
    • ratatatat1

      Yeah. We all asked for it. Now the President thinks he can defend us against terrorists inside the US instead of just walking up to them and playing a game of pity-pat. Imagine the nerve.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Reply
    • hogarth

      We own what? The sure knowledge that our government will protect us from all enemies, foreign AND domestic? I'm happy to "own" that!

      March 5, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Reply
      • Rocky

        I will own it too hogarth, so many anti american malcontents these days..

        March 5, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
      • Mike

        Keep drinkin the Kool-Aid.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • Bob

      Funny how all the right-wing pundits said Bush and Cheney were "keeping us safe" when they authorized the use of military force to shoot down civilian aircraft (and left it as a standing order) that were even SUSPECTED of being hijacked after 9/11. Look at all the milita nutjobs that have been preparing for the end of the world (government, nuclear strike, zombies- all equally likely as far as most members of the Tea Party are concerned) and have set up compounds. A drone strike when one of them goes too far makes a lot more sense than letting them kill members of law enforcement before they all drink Kool-Aid and hitch a ride on a passing comet.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Reply
      • bucdale

        Please tell me what process is used to determine when it goes too far?

        March 5, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
    • Snyphilis

      These fools think that means you support Bush haha

      Obama is as scary or scarier than Bush. Outside of a military attack within the US, there is no reason to ever use an anti-tank missile here. At least on 9/11 the reaction (that never happened) was an interception on a known threat in the middle of an actual attack. The police don't have F-15's.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  88. uavspecguy

    This had absolutely nothing to do with drones.... lol

    March 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  89. Fr33th1nk3r

    OMG. All this debate over whether our government has a right to wage war against our nation's enemies or not. Common sense has become obsolete in the U.S.
    If they are actively fighting and working against the U.S. to support global terrorism– they are the enemy. Period.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:08 pm | Reply
  90. the_dude

    Obama and his friends are so honest and responsible. I'm sure they will only use drone strikes against anyone who doesn't subscribe to their agenda.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:07 pm | Reply
    • Marc

      You've got a rash on your forehead from your tin foil hat.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Reply
      • massoud

        Commie

        March 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm |
    • ratatatat1

      Unfortunately we are at war. Wars are messy things.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Reply
  91. Chetta

    I'm posting this because I want to sound intelligent and of the highest moral character.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:03 pm | Reply
    • frontgate

      Oh yeah, I can see that's working for ya.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Reply
    • DWT

      Mission accomplished.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:14 pm | Reply
  92. alf564

    Lets see, the Justice dept uses the FBI inside the USA....The President uses the CIA outside the USA...Got that, the CIA
    works OUTSIDE the borders of the USA

    March 5, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      Since "Central Intelligence Agency" does not have the word "outside" in it– I am not sure why you make this false distinction.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Reply
      • alf564

        If you can, look it up ....they each have their assigned places...

        March 5, 2013 at 6:12 pm |
      • GnatB

        Pretty sure it's simply illegal for the CIA to operate inside the USA.

        That said, they're a bunch of spies. Pretty much all of what they do is illegal where they do it, so I don't see why this particular illegality would hinder them much.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Jim

      How cute of you to believe that.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Reply
  93. massoud

    I thought 1984 by George Orwell was a book of fiction, unfortunately it is regrettably almost time to put George Orwell's 1984 in the non-fiction category.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Reply
    • Marc

      your panties are all bunched up and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Reply
      • massoud

        Commies belong in North Korea Marcom

        March 5, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
  94. GaryB

    " the CIA has no such authority"
    HA HA HA.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Reply
  95. alf564

    Whoa there now....they can only drone white guys. Black and brown are exempted by Mr Holder on the grounds that
    they are in a minority group...See, that is why HE is the Attorney General and we don't know nutin !! Ask Chris Matthews and he will tell you that this is true.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Reply
    • Nagendra

      Hey Alf what's the color you see all around you? According to me it is Multi Colored and all People need to live together. Period.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  96. David

    What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty and being tried by a jury of your peers as denoted in the bill of rights? Maybe King Obama does not consider this as part of his laws

    March 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • alf564

      King Obama, his majesty from Kenya, has only to adhere to the articles of the Constatution that he approves of !

      March 5, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Reply
      • The REAL Truth...

        And the losers troll on...

        March 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
      • frontgate

        Aaahhh, yeah, and your point? He's Muslim, not born in the U.S., not a U.S. citizen, not a Christian, he stole the last election, he hates America, and yet, the people of the U.S. reelected him President. Now, what do ya make of that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        March 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
      • AmI CRazy

        Yes Front Gate. Once a Muslim always a Muslim. Has was raised as a Muslim when he was younger and there is no such thing as a convert to another religion in Islam.

        March 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
      • exGMan

        Kenya ha? Could you be any more of any idiot? No wonder people are leaving your party like the plague. Thanks for the laugh losers.. Are you in 8th grade or ninth?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
    • HincEtInde

      Zzzzzzzzzzz

      March 5, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Reply
    • AmI CRazy

      Those protections are only for foreign combatants.
      Honestly, Both these do dumbos belong in jail !

      March 5, 2013 at 6:11 pm | Reply
  97. Trent

    I just have to point out that these two statements:

    CNN's version:
    "Drone strike against Americans in the US possible"

    and

    The quote:
    "of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States."

    are NOT. EVEN. REMOTELY. the same thing. You idiots.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • Steve Lyons

      Obama would be wise to drone the west side of Chicago.......

      March 5, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Reply
    • Snyphilis

      In context.... Yes, that's what that meant.

      March 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Reply
    • Just A Thought..

      Is it possible that the "Drone strike against Americans in the US possible" is based on the assumption that foreign nationals could launch "drones" from offshore platforms anywhere along the N.A. coastline, both shores.....
      "of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States." so given the above scenerio, any Pres. not just this one might be compelled to use "lethal force"....

      March 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Reply
  98. DOC SHEARON

    HOLDERS AN IDIOT AND SO ARE MOST WHO ABUSE THEIR APPOINTED OFFICES...PEARLAND, TEXAS WAS ON THEIR HITLIST SUNDAY 3/3/2013 ...WHY WOULD ANY ONE FLY A DRONE OVER A SOFTBALL PARK FULL OF KIDS....PEDAFILES THAT'S WHY...

    March 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Reply
    • Trent

      You've forfeit your right to comment on world affairs until you learn to spell pedophile.

      March 5, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Reply
      • Zoie

        Hey Trent... who made you the guardian of Free Speech?

        March 5, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
      • The REAL Truth...

        Hey Zoie... Free Speech ain't the same as correct spelling. Why can't the righties get that right?

        March 5, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
      • exGMan

        I haven't met a rightie yet that could spell or is worth a schit....

        March 5, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
      • LouAZ

        The spelling is so all the words don't look alike.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:39 pm |
      • southp4w

        Funny how people start attacking spelling to cover for their crony friends.

        March 5, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
  99. Tembisa

    Reblogged this on World Chaos.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Reply
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