January 9th, 2013
06:20 PM ET

0 to 9,000: Afghanistan options emerge

By Chris Lawrence and Mike Mount

The Pentagon expects to get a read on Thursday from Afghan President Hamid Karzai on what he expects from the U.S. military going forward, a defense official said.

"We're going to tell them where we think it's going as far as training the Afghan National Security Forces, and they'll tell us where they think it's going," the official said.

Karzai's visit will cover the residual troop presence following the planned withdrawal of American combat forces in 2014 as well as negotiating an end to the war, another U.S. official said.

That official said reconciliation talks have "shown some signs of life after being dormant for the past year.

Bergen: Abandon Afghanistan? Dumb idea

It is still a matter of getting a lot of stakeholders on the same page. The official said that includes the United States, Pakistan, the Afghan government and some factions of the Taliban.

Karzai's visit will include meetings with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and other senior officials and a visit to the Pentagon's 9/11 Memorial.

He will not meet with former Sen. Chuck Hagel, who is President Barack Obama's pick to succeed Panetta and is working at the Pentagon to prepare for his Senate confirmation hearing.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the planned talks adds that policy officials will brief the White House at the end of the day "on the discussions, and convey any special issues which come up during the talks."

That briefing, along with a similar one from State Department officials also meeting with Karzai, will inform Obama's discussions with the Afghan leader on Friday.

The United States is considering a range of options for keeping troops in Afghanistan after the end of combat in 2014.

Karzai has said he would like for American forces to remain following the NATO mission.

An original plan recommended by Gen. John Allen, the commander of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, recommended between 6,000 and 15,000 troops to help with training and counterterrorism.

But that figure has been lowered to a suggested range of between 2,500 and 9,000, according to defense official.

"The military prefers the higher number," one official said.

The official said there the "low number option" of 2,500 that is being considered that would allow troops to perform a small training mission centered in a limited area, not spread throughout the country.

"The footprint would be too small and we wouldn't have much operational capacity with that number" for big counterterror missions, the official says.

Any number of remaining troops would have to include manpower to handle medical needs, food and equipment supply, maintenance, and transportation to allow forces to move around Afghanistan, the defense official said.

The Obama administration also has raised the possibility of pulling all troops out of Afghanistan at the end of next year.

The numbers game being played appears to be a series of trial balloons to gauge public reaction by the White House, and well timed to send Karzai, often a thorn in the administration's side when it comes to a U.S. troop presence, a message he may not get everything he wants.

As one senior Capitol Hill staffer with knowledge of the administration discussions said we will see the White House "float wildly low and wildly high numbers as trial balloons for a week or so before they leak the president's middle ground," numbers they consider to be a responsible option just days before an official announcement.

Regardless, the numbers still drive a debate. There is a view for a smaller troop presence.

One of the most vocal arguments against the administration's numbers comes from Afghan war policy experts Frederick and Kimberly Kagan.

"At the force level the administration has suggested, the U.S. would be able to keep only two bases in Afghanistan, most likely for logistical reasons," they wrote in an opinion piece in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal.

The Kagans also say a reduced troop presence would most likely restart the civil war that raged until the U.S. invasion in 2001.

"Warlords will begin fighting each other and the insurgents and terrorists in ungoverned spaces. The conditions will be ideal for al Qaeda's return," they said.

Afghan lawmakers have been vocal about the reduced numbers as well.

"If Americans pull out all of their troops without a plan, the civil war of the 1990s would repeat itself," Naeem Lalai, an outspoken lawmaker from volatile Kandahar province told Reuters on Wednesday.

Mark Jacobson, a former NATO adviser to then-U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen, David Petraeus, said numbers under 6,000 troops would make it impossible to conduct any kind of training mission in the country.

But Jacobson says the numbers being floated are also a shot across Karzai's bow.

"Karzai's people have said the U.S. needs Afghanistan more than Afghanistan needs U.S. troops and the administration is less than pleased with that," Jacobson said.

U.S. defense officials are playing a wait-and-see game on what the Karzai visit will produce.

A Republican member of the Senate Armed Service Committee, Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, said on Sunday that he would like to see a much larger enduring U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan.

Graham's comments represent what the opposite side of the spectrum, generally embraced by Republicans.

"I think somewhere in the 15,000 to 20,000 range, depends on what the military commanders say," Graham told CNN's Candy Crowley on State of the Union

But Jacobson says we the numbers could also depend on how the Afghan government is perceived by the Afghan people. If the government seems to be providing basic services and has the support of the people, a reduced U.S. troop number could be appropriate.

Combined with a competent Afghan security force, there could be little reason to keep troops other than a U.S. counterterrorism force inside the country, according to Jacobson.

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  9. Mason

    Alexander the Great tried, Ghengis Khan, almost, the British, then the Soviets, now it the US. Afghans are not cut out for Burger King nor WalMart nor Starbucks .... Not one more drop of American blood to be spilled ..

    Every bomb dropped, every bullet spent evry missile launched. is another mother who can not feed her hungry child

    Dwight Esenhower, former US President

    January 11, 2013 at 9:10 am | Reply
  10. henry

    To show our hospitality, do arrange a paid for DC one day sightseeing trip for Karzai then send him straight to the airport for a departure back to his homeland. We don't need him in the Afghan formula, in fact, he is the trouble in Afghan in addition to the Taliban. Get our troops home ASAP.

    January 10, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Reply
  11. larry5

    Karzai can just mark the place on his bottom that he wants kissed. The current Administration can then accommodate him.

    January 10, 2013 at 7:18 pm | Reply
  12. Pat

    I miss the good ole days when we'd just bomb the #$%@ out of you for 30 days straight. Ground wars are so outdated.

    January 10, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Reply
    • Sidewinder

      And exactly when were these "good ole days"? There always has to be a ground component to accomplish anything long term.

      January 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm | Reply
      • well....

        The Kosovo Crisis comes to mind.

        We bombed them so much and for so long that we almost ran out of bombs.

        By the time that was over there wasn't much for the minimal ground force to do, which mostly consisted of moving into previously bombed areas and "peacekeeping".

        January 10, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • israel rules you

      I love stupid Americans like Pat . . She is so dumb. I love the wars we have today . . . While we israeli start these wars, we sit back and let stupid americans do all the fighting and most importantly . . . .do all the dying.

      ha ha ha we rule America. we are smarter than you.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Reply
      • Aw Bull

        Spoken like the true Muslim troll you are. You cannot fool everyone, Ahmed.

        January 10, 2013 at 9:56 pm |
  13. KEVIN

    What is Karzai's relationship with his population? I've never really heard exactly what he does as president and his relations with his other govt. officials and the general population.

    January 10, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Reply
    • Sidewinder

      He's our corrupt meat puppet on the ground. Just like we had the Shah, Marcos, Noriega, etc. He was the slickest of the northern faction warlords when we entered this twisted and forsaken land of hostile goat molesters.

      January 10, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Reply
      • KEVIN

        Side, that is what I assumed. His clothing suggests such. This is a profound example of how dysfunctional and violent Afghanistan continues to be even though we have been there for TWELVE years. Time for me to get involved!! (as long as I get the OK from my Psychiatrist)

        January 11, 2013 at 2:45 am |
  14. JayJ7

    They say if we pullout the civil war will restart.....I say that will be as beneficial to us as the Iran-Iraq wars that kept them weak until that dry drunk Bush gave victory to Iran.

    January 10, 2013 at 11:56 am | Reply
  15. n2it

    U.S.: Hey Afghanistan
    Afghanistan: Sup?
    U.S.: You aren't free and you're harboring bad religious nuts
    Afghanistan: Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black?
    U.S.: Okay, times up, we're gonna start "freeing" you in 3...2...1...
    Fast forward to present
    U.S.: Hey Afghanistan
    Afghanistan: Sup?
    U.S. We're running out of money so we're going to leave now
    Afghanistan: we thought you'd never leave

    January 10, 2013 at 11:01 am | Reply
    • US Soldier

      Afghanistan initially got what it deserved for not complying with US demands after 9/11. Nobody with a rational mind can deny that. Osama bin Laden was responsible and many terrorist training camps were present in the country and it was NOTHING like it is now. Should we have really been there for this long though? Absolutely not. Thanks Bush for concentrating on the bogus Iraq War for that and taking away all major resources towards that. We could not effectively fight 2 wars at the same time.

      January 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      Thanks to our great president BUSH who attacked Iraq inspite of knowing that all the 9/11 attackers are from Saudi and get financial support from Saudi. And our next president Obama following the footstep who countinue blow taxpayer money in Afganistan inspite of knowing Pakistan horbouring every terrorist and keep giving aid. This is called great state of mind and brain.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:46 am | Reply
  16. rad666

    America can not afford the luxury of stomping around the world trying to squash roaches.

    January 10, 2013 at 10:08 am | Reply
  17. floridasboy

    Leave the problem for the next generation to solve, same with the national debt.

    January 10, 2013 at 10:07 am | Reply
    • filthburger

      sorry, but this one is not our problem. should not have been to begin with. you want to fix the debt? reduce our military and raise taxes. simple.

      January 10, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Reply
      • well....

        Afghanistan most certainly was our problem. It was the Taliban base of operations, from which Al-Qaeda also trained and conducted operations. It was also where OBL was hiding at first.

        Iraq on the other hand was not our problem.

        January 10, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
  18. Peter Dybing

    Read between the lines, the only stability we have created in this country is " at the point of a gun" All these Americans lost and little progress to show for it. Sad state of affairs!

    January 10, 2013 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • well....

      At the point of a gun is all the Pakistan originating Taliban understand.

      January 10, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Reply
  19. KEVIN

    Resolution for Afghanistan: Pull the troops out and leave behind a few hundred McDonalds, Burger Kings and KFCs. The tribes would practice non-violent diplomatic meetings at the resturaunts. Who would blow up a McDonals?? (they couldn't be that uncivilized). We could keep the prices low by giving these fast food corporations a tax break

    January 10, 2013 at 9:30 am | Reply
    • Pirot

      I bet there are some people who would call MCD uncivilized as you dont even use forks and knifes.

      but people blowin up a McD are probably french chefs!

      January 10, 2013 at 10:03 am | Reply
  20. ambitoos

    Get out, were done. They're on they're own. Enough is enough.

    January 10, 2013 at 9:23 am | Reply
    • Chris

      See that right their is the problem, we were done with them (Afghans) in 1989 once we got what we wanted (the fall of the Soviet Union) and than come 2001 I believe on September the ummmmmm 11th Afghanistan became a BIG PROBLEM. So many on these comment boards talk about repeating mistakes and you all act so smart but leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban or whatever thuggish group takes over the country would be repeating the exact same mistake in the same exact country we made said mistake in 23 years ago. A total pullout of troop and or aid would be a very bad thing when you consider Afghanistans economic situation and the fact that their are groups within the country and right over the border waiting for our forces to do exactly what your all saying so that they can fill the vacuum of power.

      January 10, 2013 at 10:50 am | Reply
      • Rick

        These police actions are crap. These people have been fight for over 1000 years. Nuke them, take the oil, and feel no remorse.

        January 10, 2013 at 11:20 am |
      • Jeff

        @Rick. Thank God you aren't the president of the United States.

        January 10, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
      • rtr

        Give away money in the guise of aid to foriegn countries and starve Americans with big cuts, wow.

        January 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
  21. KEVIN

    There is nothing more we can do for Afghanistan whether we stay or leave.

    January 10, 2013 at 8:12 am | Reply
  22. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    Let the gun toting republicans and their kids go finish the war they abandoned and prolonged to invade Iraq. Then freeze their bank accounts and let them pay back the 5.3 trillion they depleted from our economy. Then try the Bush cabinet for war crimes against humanity. Then mission accomplished.

    January 10, 2013 at 7:43 am | Reply
    • wjmccartan

      Thank you, Blah blah blah..... You took the words right out of my mouth! How true that rings!

      January 10, 2013 at 8:05 am | Reply
      • wjmccartan

        Another towel head forgery, go back to your cave you son of a dog and monkey, and remember to look up, its coming for you and all your towel headed friends, stick to your sheep loving ways, pig dog.

        January 10, 2013 at 9:52 am |
      • wjmccartan

        Lyndsie Graham, you can't change your snowflake stupid, did I say stupid, I meant s**t for brains moron, stooge, imbecile, go find saeed he's out in the fields with the sheep, your can have a foursome, you two idiots and a sheep and a pig. Just like a family photo.

        January 10, 2013 at 10:05 am |
    • oBozo

      .... if your stupidtalk and idea is good then so let confiscate the liberal's bank acct to pay back 9 trillions (17. 2-8.5 = 8.7)!!!

      January 10, 2013 at 9:20 am | Reply
    • JayJ7

      You have my vote......Ex Military officer who did not enjoy seeing Bush play with our military lives like they were toys.

      January 10, 2013 at 11:50 am | Reply
    • Dave

      lets bomb pakistan. we need to keep our economy going

      January 11, 2013 at 7:57 am | Reply
  23. PJ

    Bring all of our troops home. Afghans are not worth spilling more American blood. Bring them home. Fight terrorism the correct way. Of course, McCain will scream loudly. He enjoys a good war.

    January 10, 2013 at 7:17 am | Reply
    • William R. Hill

      Couldn't agree more and have for years. Are our elected and appointed government officials so beholden to the military industrial complex that they are deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that the vast majority of us ordinary folks don't believe Afghanistan or any other third world cesspool is worth a single American life or a dollar of our money. We need to get out of the Middle East entirely and get on with the huge job we have here at home. Obama's message to Karzai should be very simple; "Our troops and our money are leaving immediately. Row you own boat. World War II was necessary. Since then we have spent untold $trillions on wars that have done nothing but costs the lives of well over 100,000 of our young men and siphon money from essential work here at home. I will never again voted for any politician who is not solidly against these constant, unjustifiable wars.

      January 10, 2013 at 7:50 am | Reply
      • Kestrel

        Interesting argument. Unfortunately, it is very similar to arguments used to not get involved with WWII in the first place. It's much better to put out a fire as it starts instead of once it reaches full conflagration. By comparison to WWII, Al Queda is a middling fire which should have been put out as soon as we saw the smoke (bombing of the USS Cole). Instead we waited for the fire (9/11). However, what you're saying is we should wait until AQ reaches the point it has full control of several countries and their resources before we finally decide it is as "necessary" to intervene as we did in WWII.

        January 10, 2013 at 9:58 pm |
    • Noori

      The Afghans didn't ask for US to bring about a bunch of drug dealinig/Human rights abusing/land grabbing/Corrupt warlords to power and shower them American Tax payers money. Who do you thing the Norther Alliance was before they came to pwoer, a bunch of thugs that alligned themselved with USA. And USA promised the afghans Democracy/Security and prosperity. Afghans knew all along that this was a big lie. How come the current government (former warlords) bring democracy or Prosperity. the only thing the warlords did was change to western style suites and briefecases to take the loot to Dubai. It was a big joke right from the start. Google the Names, Rashid Dustum, Fahim, Ahmad Wali Karzai, Ustad Sayaf, these are afghans leaders but instead they all should be in the Hagues charged with crimes against humanity along with Bush.

      January 10, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Reply
  24. CraigM

    Karzai's family is involved in the opium trade and is corrupt as heck! We have wasted thousands of American lives and treasury for this god forsaken place and we will reap no benefits except dead solider's!! We need to pull out immediately give this crooked President Karzai no money whatsoever and leave them all to rot on the vine..........they hate us as it is so what are we doing there??

    January 10, 2013 at 6:59 am | Reply
  25. Michael

    "The footprint would be too small and we wouldn't have much operational capacity with that number" for big counterterror missions, the official says."

    I'm calling BS. We have the technology to station drones above this country all day, every day, from here to eternity to monitor this situation. If we need boots on the ground for any given mission, we also have that proven capability. We don't need to have thousands of folks there to monitor for counter-terror ops. We've shown that with Pakistan and Bin Laden.

    January 10, 2013 at 6:14 am | Reply
  26. Jorge washinsen

    If we leave they will get back to killing each other instead of the people who came to help them.in Syria is a good example of the mindset there.cnn can brag about their part in Egypt and Libya of bringing peace there.The more democracy we help create the weaker we get.

    January 10, 2013 at 6:07 am | Reply
  27. aurelius

    The three main options should be: leave now, leave now, or leave now.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:23 am | Reply
    • Jorge washinsen

      Right on!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:01 am | Reply
    • CraigM

      Amen............we have wasted enough American blood for absolutely nothing in both Afghanistan and Iraq. And the people in both countries still hate us???

      January 10, 2013 at 7:01 am | Reply
    • snowdogg

      yes, yes and yes

      January 10, 2013 at 7:03 am | Reply
  28. jerry

    well i say karzai is a DEAD MAN... ........as soon as we leave the talaban will kill him ... the talaban want to run the country there way....they see karzai as americas puppit .... they well cut the strings as soon as we go.....and take control of the country .....

    January 10, 2013 at 3:11 am | Reply
  29. Anonymous

    Chicken out.

    January 10, 2013 at 3:02 am | Reply
  30. Afghani's

    We don't like US troops to be in Afghanistan.
    we want them all out of our country.

    January 10, 2013 at 2:17 am | Reply
    • Michael

      Good to hear. And I think most Americans agree with your sentiment. But I also think most Americans are of the state of mind that if you all allow folks who we consider to be terrorist, to use your territory again to launch attacks against us, that we will have no problem responding to that situation in a violent manner.

      I honestly hope you all do well and begin to rid yourselves of extremism and can build yourselves better lives. And I don't mean the life that I would want to live but as you like and in a peaceful manner according to internationally accepted norms.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:20 am | Reply
    • Anon

      You obviously aren't "Afghani" which is the currency of Afghanistan. Are you trying to pretend you are "Afghan" while posting on here? Common mistake but shows you are just fooling around messing with people.

      January 10, 2013 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • Michael 2

      Afghani's? I smell troll since every good Afghan knows that an Afghani is currency not a person.

      January 10, 2013 at 9:47 am | Reply
  31. Jon

    Everybody out, it's long overdue. There has been too much loss of life and money to continue this "operation". Lets tend to things at home for a change, budget and other fiscal responsibilities. I'm sure some politicians will miss the extra money from special interest war mongers, but they'll get by.

    January 10, 2013 at 2:03 am | Reply
  32. Kelcy

    Hmmmm. I wouldn`t leave any US or NATO soldier in Afghanistan. If the Afghanie's need training....then bring them to the US or to one of the NATO training bases.

    January 10, 2013 at 1:54 am | Reply
  33. Beefburger

    They don't WANT a stable country, when is the "administration" (e.g. Obama) going to realize this? The only reason we are there isn't for Big Oil, it is for Big Pharmacy. We have a HUGE number of Baby Boomers that are going to be sucking up opium derivitives soon.

    January 10, 2013 at 1:48 am | Reply
  34. volsocal

    I vote for zero. And why wait until 2014?

    January 10, 2013 at 1:28 am | Reply
  35. It's Over

    A competent Afghan security force – so far the best oxymoron of 2013.

    January 10, 2013 at 1:25 am | Reply
  36. snowdogg

    "The Obama administration also has raised the possibility of pulling all troops out of Afghanistan at the end of next year."

    Go with that... but all troops home by July 4th 2013.

    January 10, 2013 at 1:18 am | Reply
  37. Sophie

    I agree with Lyndisie Graham, I long for the day when Afghanistan is in the history books, and not our every day news, I am sick to death of this country and their ways, and disrespect, for all the blood shed on their behalf. I repeat I want this country in our history book fast. No more talk of this country, be done with them. The sooner the better.

    January 10, 2013 at 1:04 am | Reply
  38. KEVIN

    Lets start with this: We have been there 12yrs. TWELVE YEARS!!! We drove al-quida out and into caves in Northern Pakistan within the first 6mos. (mission accomplished) But we still can't even bring in civilian contractors to build an electrical grid system throughout the country because it is too dangerous due to the multiple waring tribes. What more do we expect we can do with this country any further?? The fact is that we have yet to fully conquer this country and the only way we can fully conquer it is to terrify ALL of them by practicing progressive genocide (hidious but factual)

    January 10, 2013 at 1:02 am | Reply
  39. Mike

    We have kept 38,000 troops in Korea for over 50 years. Now, Obama will still not provide the troops needed to do the job right. This is just like when he was told, to win the war in Afghaninstan I will need 80,000 more troops. Instead, Obama sent 30,000 and we still have not won the war. It is like Obama does not want us to win!!!

    January 10, 2013 at 12:45 am | Reply
    • me

      Win what, America didn't go to Afghanistan to win a war with the country, what planet are you living on, the main objective was to find Bin crap head and take out as many terrorists as possible, and if that country became more secure as a result of those actions good for them, but that's where it ends. The military drones are taking out more of the terrorists without losing any American lives, I think that's a much better plan. America was looking for co-operation from the Afgan government and in order to get that, they're troops had to be trained to police their own country and that's it, the cost is to high to continue with the mission, and as I said above, the drones can take it from here.

      January 10, 2013 at 1:01 am | Reply
    • snowdogg

      Showing much bias against rationality? Getting out – only more quickly – is the only viable option. Your solution – send more troops – is the same failed policy as the war in Viet Nam. Didn't work ten and won't work now in Afghanistan.

      January 10, 2013 at 1:21 am | Reply
    • cjacja

      There is no why to even define what "win" means. It is pointless. Just keep a few advisors and trainers and be done with it.

      January 10, 2013 at 2:22 am | Reply
  40. Rob

    I don't care what Kazai would like he isn't American. 2014 I vote 0 been there too long with little to show. Obama will be an idiot if he leaves troops there.

    January 10, 2013 at 12:11 am | Reply
  41. brown

    I have an idea ... how about we send the sons' and daughters' of our treasonous members of Congress.

    Their parents created the root causes for our war in Afghanistan.
    Let their phat az_zzes pitch in!

    January 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm | Reply
    • Anonymous

      Actually, some politicians children are there... I was personally at a small FOB with Sarah Palin's son.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:26 am | Reply
  42. empresstrudy

    Zero is nice round number but I see some psychos are already claiming the Jews run the world. Good work CNN viewers.

    January 9, 2013 at 11:31 pm | Reply
  43. saeed

    i say come on if usa fuccking A wants a war then come on come on come on bittch stop talking that stupid mouth and come on 1 nuclear fist into dublin ireland and then we gonna burn down every whoore child in ghana every basque women gonna lie burning dead dead children is gonna lie around in boston bittch we gonna bomb the sychelles also fuccking bittch im going to teach that mouth of your a lesson.

    January 9, 2013 at 8:10 pm | Reply
    • U.S.M.C. 1371

      WoW stupid................

      January 9, 2013 at 8:28 pm | Reply
    • saeed likes doing goats

      Saeed likes doing goats
      Saeed likes doing monkeys
      Saeed likes doing his brother
      Saeed likes doing his mother
      Saeed likes doing pigs

      January 9, 2013 at 10:51 pm | Reply
    • bibi the B vitch and your master

      You stupid Americans . . . .we'll keep your dumb military in the Middle East until you're all used up, broke and begging us to loan you some more money we just create out of thin air. You're all in debt, and we had our boys/slave obama and bush borrow money from us so our banks can keep making a killing off your real estate. Heck, we built up China to beat your butts. All the while, we are pulling your strings . . . through AIPAC.

      ha ha ha we even killed John F. Kennedy. . . we pulled off 9-11, and don't forget the U.S.S. Liberty. . . . the Levon Affair in Egypt . . . we keep drilling you dumb Americans in the butt and you keep asking for more. Heck, we even did John Travolta in the butt, too.

      You stupid American are only good like cattle. You are worth nothing. Your only value is to serve us, and to die for us.

      Ha ha ha . . .we own you. Just stay stupid and we'll let you buy some food on credit.

      We are the smartest people on earth.

      We are the zine o ists and we own you. israel forever . . .the capital of the new world order.

      Just stay stupid and watch more TV.

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      Bow to your masters!!! On your knees. Soon, we're going to take away all your guns.


      January 9, 2013 at 10:52 pm | Reply
      • jeff

        You can't call Americans stupid then say Afghanistan is the in the middle east when it's in east/central Asia....

        January 9, 2013 at 11:09 pm |
      • bibi the B vitch and your master, who fondle goat balls

        Bibi the B vitch and your master, who likes to fondle goat balls.
        Bibi the B vitch and your master, who likes to fondle donkey balls.
        Bibi the B vitch and your master, who lays with pigs and fondle their balls

        January 10, 2013 at 12:51 am |
      • Michael

        I hear what you're saying but the bottom line is, and I'm going to type this very calmly and with forethought: If we really wanted you all dead, you would be. Make absolutely no mistake about that fact. We have thermonuclear weapons and they would turn your desert kingdoms to glass. So before you spout off with all your bravado, keep in mind how thoughtful we actually are when it comes to countries like yours with a mindset like yours. Stick that in your water pipe and smoke it and be happy we are civilized people not hell bent on removing your extreme butts from the planet.

        January 10, 2013 at 6:28 am |
      • Mason

        God is the supreme master, not any human, nation or power bar none....If you could you would be
        be Jesus Christ who has the keys to heaven and hell

        January 10, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
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      Saeed is my daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddy!!! Baaaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaah.

      January 10, 2013 at 9:12 am | Reply
  44. Lyndsie Graham

    Why 0 to 9000 options for Afghanistan? We only have two good ones. One is to get both the Karzai regime and the Taliban to the negotiating table to work out a lasting peace and the other is just to simply withdraw like the Russians did back in 1989! All the others are just plain idiocy and nothing more!

    January 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Reply

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