Rice vs. Kerry: Weighing the odds of being secretary of state
December 3rd, 2012
08:28 PM ET

Rice vs. Kerry: Weighing the odds of being secretary of state

By Jamie Crawford

It's a favorite game in Washington to weigh the odds of each potential nominee to a president's cabinet and that game is in full swing - especially in trying to anticipate President Barack Obama's choice for replacing Hillary Clinton as secretary of state.

With speculation mounting that President Obama may soon announce his nominee, two very well-known names - Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, and Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice - remain the two top possibilities. Each comes with strengths but with baggage as well.

Rice's name has been floated in recent weeks as being Obama's preferred candidate for the top diplomatic post.

Twice in recent weeks the president has voiced support for her as she has been at the receiving end of a barrage of criticism over how she presented the administration's explanation for the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya. Her appearance on Sunday talk shows the weekend after the attack that killed four Americans including the U.S. ambassador has led to questions as to whether she is too controversial now to be chosen by the president.

The criticisms, mostly from Republicans, laid bare what a difficult confirmation process in the Senate she would face.

"When it comes to Susan Rice, I can tell you as far as Lindsey Graham is concerned, I find great fault with what she said on 16 September and in other areas - I find her lacking when it comes to being the best choice for secretary of state," Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-South Carolina, said this past Sunday on "Face the Nation" on CBS. "But this is up to the president," Graham said.

The looming question is whether the White House wants to go through a bruising confirmation process while it is already engaged in treacherous negotiations with congressional Republicans as part of an effort to avert to so-called fiscal cliff.

Five questions on Susan Rice

If Rice were to survive a bruising confirmation battle, large questions would still remain over her future relations with Congress and whether she would be able to haggle with legislators over big issues like the department's budget. And there are questions over what kind of support she would have from within the State Department.

But she is very close with Obama, and would likely be seen as speaking for him in her dealings with her international interlocutors - a valuable form of currency in the world of diplomacy.

Rice, who spent a good portion of last week meeting with senators on Capitol Hill, seemed to do little in those sessions to assuage concerns of prominent Republicans who would ultimately vote on her nomination. Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, told CNN she would "certainly hold the nomination until we get a full and complete picture of what happened here."

Enter Kerry, the current chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and one-time Democratic nominee for president. With Kerry widely thought to harbor high ambitions for the post at Foggy Bottom, several of his Republican colleagues in the Senate have made clear he would face a much smoother confirmation process were Obama to nominate him.

"I think there are other good choices for secretary of state, better choices probably. I think Senator Kerry is one of them," Sen. Rob Portman,R-Ohio, told the New York Times recently. "He would have an easy time here." That sentiment has met with agreement from other Republican senators in recent days such as John Barasso of Wyoming and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.

Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, who in many ways has led the opposition to the idea of a Rice nomination may have telegraphed his preference Monday when he jokingly referred to Kerry as "Mr. Secretary" at a joint appearance on Capitol Hill with the Massachusetts senator. Kerry was quick to redirect, noting instead that he and McCain were members of another, less illustrious club.

"Thank you very much, Mr. President. This is what happens when you get two losers" together, Kerry joked of the two men's failed presidential campaigns.

But what would a Kerry nomination mean for the foreign policy of the United States?

Serving as chairman of the committee since 2009, Kerry is widely respected in many parts of the world and seen as someone good at building relationships.

He is also viewed by many as more experienced in the diplomacy necessary for a secretary of state. Kerry has traveled at times around the globe on behalf of the administration to mend frayed relationships –most notably Pakistan after a series of incidents, including the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, had set relations back.

Were he to stay in his current role, such diplomatic travel could provide the administration with a powerful voice who could take the temperature in locations overseas while maintaining a degree of "plausible deniability" by not being a part of the administration.

But Kerry is not seen as much of an Obama confidante in the way Rice is, and his influence in forming and shaping U.S. foreign policy would be unclear. Though he did earn high marks for helping the president prepare for the debates against Republican challenger Mitt Romney, Kerry is also seen as having something of an independent streak, and it is not clear how disciplined and on-message he would be in the job.

More worrisome for Democrats is the fate of Kerry's seat and whether it would remain in Democratic hands in a special election if he were to leave.

A nomination for Clinton's replacement is thought to be coming soon - possibly as early as this week. Rice is still seen as the front runner for the nomination, and while Obama has not said whom he is leaning towards, he does not appear to be wavering in his support of her. "Susan Rice is extraordinary. I couldn't be prouder of the job that she's done," he told reporters during a Cabinet meeting last week.

As for Kerry, his name is also on most lists for a possible nomination to be the next secretary of defense. It's good to have options.

CNN's Elise Labott contributed to this report

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  6. Jeff Dickens

    Don't make Kerry Sec'y of State... Scott Brown *will* take his senate seat because not enough dems would come out for a special election.l

    December 5, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
    • mcskadittle

      same old republican thinking, i am pretty sure scott browns carreer in MA Politics is over

      December 5, 2012 at 11:26 am | Reply
      • Jeff Dickens

        Sure hope you're right.. but never underestimate the blockheads who elected Romney Governor, got universal healthcare, and then decided they don't want it.

        December 5, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  7. Clay

    President should chose Susan Rice for Secretary of State. She is intelligent, tough and young. John Kerry is a good man, maybe another appointment .

    December 5, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
  8. Nash

    Sour grape Republicans can call Rice unqualified yet elevate Palin to the office of the Vice President. What a joke!

    December 5, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
  9. SugarKube

    What a choice, either Swiftboat metal chucking Kerry or lying bimbo Rice. Both are incompetent and perfect for the Obama administration.

    December 5, 2012 at 7:15 am | Reply
  10. bodylanguagesuccess

    Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2214:
    John McCain Jokes – sort of .... and
    John Kerry senses Deception


    December 5, 2012 at 12:54 am | Reply
  11. Dee

    President Obama won the election and people need to get over it the majority voted him in and he will be there for the next 4 years for all Americans. The middle class will not suffer any more from unfair treatment we all will be treated the same and this country will grow.

    All the negativity needs to stop and yes the majority of criticism is about the color of the skin and not the integrity of the person or the office, no President has been under such scrutiny as this one but the people have spoken and like it or not live with it.

    December 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Reply
    • SugarKube

      Check back in in about a year when the ObamaKare taxes are in full swing on the middle class.

      December 5, 2012 at 7:17 am | Reply
  12. itsme

    Total cover up in Benghazi. How can you be so naive? It truly hurts me to know that I live amongst so many enemies. I now question the loyalty to USA of 51%. How could you reelect a loser and then still be drunk on everything he says/ does?
    Critical thinking is not being used, that is why I still check out CNN – to put a check on my preferred news sources. Drudge is a quick way to see what is going on but you really have to be an adult an look for the true story beyond your comfort zone.
    May God help us as a nation to wake up in time. May we all find it within us to take responsibility for ourselves and not mind others businesses

    December 4, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Reply


    December 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
  14. JohnParryJones

    Neither is a good candidate. Neither will be confirmed.

    December 4, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Reply
  15. ben

    It's seared into my memory how Kerry lied about being in Cambodia on Christmas, and frightens me that such a dishonest, dishonorable man would even be considered. As far as his ability to read and judge character, an important thing for a diplomat, he chose John Edwards as his running mate.

    Then again most of the left supported Edwards, which should tell you something about the left's lack of good judgement.

    December 4, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Reply
  16. iBod

    I like Rice a lot. She is fully qualified to be Secretary of State; and I would respect the decision if she were nominated. It should be stressed, that the GOP should not play politics if she were to be nominated. It would only further devalue their brand.

    I am more of a Kerry fan, though. The idea of him being Secretary of State is one I think will eventually become a reality. If not now, then I certainly see him as Secretary of State under a Clinton Administration in 2016. Regarding Kerry, he is Senator of Massachusetts....The most Democratic state in the Union. Republicans are a far cry away from turning that seat red, especially after Elizabeth Warren unseated Scott Brown. So I think there should be no concern about a Kerry replacement that would refuse him the opportunity.

    December 4, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Reply
    • Matt

      Brown has name recognition and barely lost to the very popular Warren. The odds are he would win he special election.

      December 4, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Reply
  17. rws

    There's something REALLY fishy going on with the Benghazi politics. GOP outrage is completely misdirected and that can only be for political purposes. What could have contributed to Amb Stevens death? Security and intelligence failures or the unclassified talking points? Who would be the natural focus if this was really about getting to the possible intelligence and Embassy security failures? That would be Clinton and Petraues. But instead McCain and Co are focused on the talking points and its messenger (Rice). Clearly their concern is politics, not terrorism. Strangely, the GOP doesn't seem to want the focus to be on security and intelligence failures...both issues would redirect the focus to Clinton and Petraeus and away from McCain's favorite topic- Susan Rice. He's actually praising Clinton as best SOS. Go figure...

    December 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  18. Bhimrao

    The GOP senators attacked Susan Rice, just to get indirectly at the President, to whom she is said to be close. It had nothing to do with her ability, experience or what she actually said. . She deserves a fair hearing. On the other hand, Sen. Kerry is a life long senator, a speech maker. Would he have the kind of physical and intellectual energy that the job demands? Would he, a procut of the ponderous senate, ever be able get into intellectual sync. with the President? I doubt it.

    December 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Reply
  19. Dee

    John McCain made the mistake of calling Kerry Sec. of State yesterday and that shows just what the Rice situation was all about trying to discredit her to set up the nomination for Kerry. It is sad but it was all politics they don't know who the President will select because he hasn't said.

    December 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Reply
    • catwill

      John McCain is still angry with the President and is being spiteful to AMB Rice but if the Presidents desires he should get his choice for Cabinet but it places SEN Kerry in a bad spot.

      December 4, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Reply
  20. MTATL67

    By attacking Rice McCain and Graham are not going to get a GOP into Kerry senate. With an 8 seat lose in the House and 3 seat lose in the Senate. Republicans are beyond delusional if they think they will increase their numbers by taking Kerry seat or any seat in 2014. The grass roots movement that re-elected President Obama and took those 8 and 3 seats from Republicans are primed and ready to go to work and take more in 2014

    December 4, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
  21. Disgusted

    This is all he has? This is the best and brightest of the Democratic party? Oh pulease! Ever heard of Colin Powell?

    December 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Reply
    • NAM VET


      December 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
  22. catwill

    Amb Susan Rice should be the choice if it is the desires of the President. SEN McCain and Graham should just butt out and vote when whomever comes before them. There was no coverup in Benghazi!

    December 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
  23. mcskadittle

    with the republicans insistence on Kerry as a nominee over rice, it seems to me all of their "outrage" over the Benghazi incident is more than a little suspect

    December 4, 2012 at 11:25 am | Reply
  24. Lance D.

    Larry Flynt "Hot Free Press" humming - Tina Turner not on stage yet - "Rollin' down da rivah... Big wheels keep on turnin'... "

    December 4, 2012 at 11:22 am | Reply
  25. Lance D.

    Do Obama and Patrick REALLY want Kerry passing out those slides?

    December 4, 2012 at 11:19 am | Reply
  26. Lance D.

    GOP CRIME LAB - Healthcare Industry SuperPac under microscopes - Sen. John Kerry passes the slides - Boston Hot Lips feeling the "Massachusetts Model" heat. Obamacare lays low in Big Bird Berkshire Love Nest. Romney and Ryan dishing out more "Ann Romney Turkey Chili" - paid for by TogetherPAC (wink)

    December 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
  27. Anne

    At least Kerry is not totally stupid. I despise him for what he did in 2008 to Clinton, but I have no trust in Rice after Benghazi.

    December 4, 2012 at 11:10 am | Reply
  28. mcskadittle

    Kerry is not even on the table! this is a republican pipe dream to try and get brown back in the Senate.

    December 4, 2012 at 11:09 am | Reply
  29. doc99

    Am I missing something? The republicans lost the election, so why are they telling Obama who he should select as Sec of State.

    December 4, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
    • Scilon

      GOP tried to fabricate a national security scandal and all it did was distract US from a Palestinian statehood vote. The republicans helped create a sideshow involving Rice so their Saudi-Islamist buddies could push some anti-israel UN resolution and the future price of oil will remain high to line their pockets.

      December 4, 2012 at 11:06 am | Reply
  30. Gwen C.

    Bottom line John McCain has made this personal, Susan Rice used the talking points authorized by the intelligence community. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and others need to sit their behinds down (putting that nicely), after all do they need to be reminded about September 11, 2001?

    And do they need to be reminded what they told the American people as to why we needed to go into Iraq? Do we need to bring up Condalessa Rice and what she said and the fact she went on "Sunday Morning" talk shows? John McCain wants Scott Brown back in Congress so someone please tell John McCain to sit his A$$ down and shut the H E Double Hocky Sticks up.

    December 4, 2012 at 10:25 am | Reply
  31. HenryMiller

    Rice will get the job. She's black.

    December 4, 2012 at 10:11 am | Reply
    • doc99

      Spoken like a true republican racist.

      December 4, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • rws

      You only see that she's black but are blind to her qualifications? When Hilary was picked for SOS, did you only see her whiteness? If you didn't, why is Susan's color of importance?

      December 4, 2012 at 11:04 am | Reply
    • B

      You represent the iconic Bigotry of the Republicans and that is why Romney was rejected..

      December 5, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Reply
  32. Scott

    Wow is this the best they have to offer, Kerry or Rice, both losers, and one so clueless she did not even realize that Libya was a terrorist attack. Either one of these stooges have no brains, its no wonder this country is the laughing stock among diplomats over seas.

    December 4, 2012 at 9:39 am | Reply
    • doc99

      The only ones "offering" Kerry are the republicans.

      December 4, 2012 at 10:59 am | Reply
    • rws

      This president has been helping America emerge from it's "laughing stock" status gained by the cowboy diplomacy and war loving days of Bush. He did alot of damage to America abroad. And only those who thought Romney was winning by landslide would disagree.

      Are you one of those "patriots" who hate this president more than you love America and would bet against America at home and abroad just to damage him?

      December 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
      • Amphiox

        I wouldn't say laughing stock. More like pariah everyone was terrified of because of the damage its bumbling could do.

        December 4, 2012 at 11:48 am |
  33. Jim in PA

    It's a very easy selection. Just determine which one the GOP hates the most, then ramrod them through the Senate. Elections have consequences, beotches.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:53 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Perhaps ,if Big TSA Sis Janet, got a Sun Tan ?

      December 4, 2012 at 8:56 am | Reply
    • bcpiii

      I would like to see a reach across the aisle,,, i personally think the best solution,,,, that I don't think anyone has thought of,,, is Jon Huntsman,,, he is the best moderate statesman that we have,,, and he is quite respected in China

      December 4, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
      • Jim in PA

        As former ambassador to China, and generally intelligent guy, Huntsman would be an excellent choice.

        December 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |
      • fayse

        I agree, I have nothing against either Kerry or Rice but, I hope that the President chooses Jon Huntsman. As to the earlier statement regarding Susan Rice, she is a Rhodes Scholar and very intelligent. I just feel that she is too abrasive.

        December 4, 2012 at 10:38 am |
      • rws

        Jon Huntsman maybe a great statesman and a pragmatist but isn't accepting another post with the "enemy" is like signing a death warrant? I think the China ambassador post hurt his chances with the GOP. That's the toxic nature of US politics - can't serve your country if the "enemy" appoints you. Can't even be seen negotiating fiscal affairs with the "enemy" or else... I am hopeful the extremists will be neutered and bipartisanship is no longer a dirty word.

        December 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  34. Peach

    Both are ridiculous choices, why not nominate Jay-Z for that matter........ this president is a joke.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
    • zlop

      In the White house - We need a good looking White teleprompter reader
      Lindsey Lohan - Angelina Jolie - Lady GaGa . .. ...

      December 4, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • Jim in PA

      Why Jay-Z? Oh, I get it... he's black too...

      December 4, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • SARA

      Now did you have to say u must not like black people thing you say alway remember be careful what you say cause it will come back on you

      December 4, 2012 at 11:01 am | Reply
    • mcskadittle

      what does j-z have to do with Kerry?

      December 4, 2012 at 11:12 am | Reply
      • JohnnyHawk

        Jay-Z and John Kerry are both exceedingly rich, married way above themselves, and generally suck at what they do.

        December 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • rws

      YOU are the joke!!! What's your point? Jay-Z built his multi-million dollar business– yes, "Jay-Z built that". He's self made and very successful. What's there's to belittle? Rice and Kerry are very accomplished in their own careers. Again...nothing there to belittle.

      This president could solve every problem in this country and it'd never be enough for his haters...EVER!

      December 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Reply
  35. jaana

    i hope he doesn't choose either one of these yahoos.. what an embarrassment both of them are.. isn't there anyone in the dem party that has some good sense to be able to deal with people and information in an upright fashion? (probs not or these would not be the choices)

    December 4, 2012 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Shadow, unelected, government pulls the strings of the Compromised puppets.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
  36. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    If you study the history of al Qaeda and how it has operated in the past, you would more or less discover that the Benghazi attacks weren't a planned attack by al Qaeda as the GOP are making it out to be. For example, in the past decade in which al Qaeda has carried out attacks, it has always seized on the opportunity to abduct westerners and hold them prisoners to use them as negotiating tools. With that being said, the Benghazi consolete was not fortified as it was an unsecured facility that was accesible to the attackers if they wanted to enter and abduct the occupants. But instead, they unleashed their rocket propelled grenades from a distance, setting the building ablaze. Furthermore, according to intelligence reports, 45 minutes after the compound was set ablaze, witnesses or supporters of the new Libyan government were allowed to enter the building and get the occupants out. If the occupants had gas masks, they would have withstood smoke inhilation and survived, rebutting any efforts by the attackers to suceed in their attacks.

    let's face it, if the attackers were really members of al Qaeda, they would have entered the building and held the occupants prisoners or two, they would have taken the bodies out and paraded them for the world to see or three, they would have prevented pro Libyan supporters from taking the victims to the hospital where they could have survived had help arrived sooner. This attack proves that is was not the operation of al Qaeda. Never mind what John McCain and the GOP have to say about these attacks especially when they have been unable to tell us what ever became of the WMDs in Iraq!

    December 4, 2012 at 8:41 am | Reply
    • zlop

      To out the Insolent War Reluctant Generals,
      Benghazi was a well scripted False Flag.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
    • pattipaws

      You have a very good point. Great post.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
    • batjones

      Therefore,we can come to one conclusion. It was a traitorous GOP operation

      December 4, 2012 at 9:32 am | Reply
    • rws

      Apparently many in the diplomatic community suspect the Benghazi attackers are most likely "Al Qaeda admiring copy cats" than Al Qaeda itself. There are very dangerous places in the world which pose high risks for US diplomats. The risk grows exponentially if the local govt is is incapable of providing security as was the case in Benghazi. Not to mention Amb Stevens admirable "mix it" diplomacy style also greatly compounded the security risk. But is seems like the Benghazi politics are tramping the security and intelligence issues in the public arena. Thanks to the media for the Benghazi political sideshow–courtesy of "McCain/Graham dog and pony show".

      December 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Reply
  37. liberal disease

    daffy duck could do a better job than Clinton..

    December 4, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Killer Duck, daffy not,
      "We came, we saw, he died"

      December 4, 2012 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • fayse

      Hillary Clinton has done an excellent job and I believe that her favorable rating is near 70%.

      December 4, 2012 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Jackson

      Daffy Duck could provide better political analysis than you.

      December 4, 2012 at 11:24 am | Reply
  38. sflmom

    Kerry who said that if you did not have a college education you were going to end up in Iraq? That Kerry as Secy of State? Rice who just blindly follows and has no idea of how to lead, anyone out there really think that the leaders of the Arab world will listen to Susan like they did Condelezza? No I don't think so.
    Nieither one of these people are Secy of State material just like Hillary was not, she has done nothing but coast for the last four years going to countries that are not an issue. You want a Secy of State that has the back bone to with stand the idiots across the seas...

    December 4, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
  39. ShawnDH

    Susan Rice will be a superb Secretary of State.

    Let's be honest...whenever America's wacko right-wing loons are OUTRAGED about soemthing, it's always the best way forward for our nation because they live in a backwards fantasy world of stupid.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Perhaps, if Susan Rice inherits Hilary's handlers and speech writers ?

      December 4, 2012 at 8:41 am | Reply
  40. rightospeak

    Kerry has been around to fund the welfare for the rich, the banks, Wall Street and did not raise his voice to object the Boskin Commission of rigging the COLA for SS. He was there when SS surplus was spent. He knows nothing of foreign policy if he allowed policies (never raised a voice to oppose) that brought us to the mess we are in. He is just more of the same D.C. politics. Mrs. Rice does what she is told and maybe has the guts to tell the crooks in Washington off. I would bet on Mrs. Rice to do a better job. The fact that the warmongers and servants of the 1% like McCain are against Mrs. Rice tells me that she will do better than the others. Maybe they are afraid that she will question 9/11 and who was behind it. Maybe she will bring all the troops home with her new policies and save us bundles of money. The best Kerry can do is to retire along with McCain,Lieberman and half the Congress-they are bad for this country.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:29 am | Reply
    • zlop

      "Maybe they are afraid that she will question 9/11 and who was behind it"
      No question about it - "Military Knows Israel Did 9/11"

      December 4, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
      • jaana

        the us government and elitist bankers did 9/11

        December 4, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  41. Jim

    John Kerry will remain in the Senate. Obama will double-down on his poor choice and blame race and gender. He will get Rice approved, and then he will wonder why embassies keep getting attacked.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:25 am | Reply
    • zlop

      As False Flag Operations - "embassies keep getting attacked"
      U$ funds all sides - El-CIA-duh - MI7 Muslix brotherhood - Mosad keeps secrets better.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:36 am | Reply
  42. Joe Clark


    December 4, 2012 at 8:22 am | Reply
    • zlop

      now in the Secretive Shadow Government, is too busy with women admires

      December 4, 2012 at 8:26 am | Reply
    • mcskadittle

      That would put him 4th in line of succession, i wonder if that would cross the 22nd amendment

      December 4, 2012 at 11:19 am | Reply
    • JohnnyHawk

      A master of international relations. Inter-office relations. Trailer park relations.

      December 4, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Reply
  43. Bruce Rubin


    December 4, 2012 at 8:20 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Yes, el-CIA-duh did a good job outing the War Reluctant Generals.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:29 am | Reply
  44. Arjayw

    Of course the GOP wants Kerry – that way they can grab his Senate seat and kill any chance of Democratic legislation being passed. Those sly ol' Republicans know exactly what they're doing (besides being the racists they are).

    December 4, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
    • zlop

      "kill any chance of Democratic legislation being passed"
      Legislators are Redundant.
      Implementing Evil World Order Policies - Emperor Obama rules by decree.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:23 am | Reply
    • TJ

      Yup.... Democrats....

      Party of the K K K
      Party of segregation
      Party that prevented the Civil Rights Bill from being passed in 1957 (authored by some Repub named Eisenhower).
      Party that was forced to sign that very same bill in 1964, by Dr. King... with the Dems trying to steal credit for it.
      Party of hatred
      Party that always relies on the (gasp) race card when it has nothing intelligent to offer in a debate.
      Party of the (last four) drafts.
      Party (LBJ) that admitted to taking bribes from Brown & Root, a Haliburton company, for "favors" in 'Nam. The Dems lied, and 58,000 Americans died.

      Arjayw... your post is infantile, at best.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
      • Pat

        Those that don't understand history post silly comments.

        December 4, 2012 at 8:42 am |
      • JohnnyHawk

        Those that do understand history, but choose to ignore it, will make every effort to belittle (Pat). Your point is spot on.

        December 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • jaana

      how do you figure that repulicans are racists? that makes absolutely no sense at all... it was rep bush who started all the amnesty and crap for illegals that are now draining our economy..

      December 4, 2012 at 8:47 am | Reply
  45. LarryT

    Kerry is too white and too male for the job.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:13 am | Reply
    • zlop

      John Kerry is Whispy Waspy, Bonehead White,
      would stand out in the Black House

      December 4, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
      • kevin

        How about Jon Huntsman. problem solved

        December 4, 2012 at 8:23 am |
  46. BillD

    Bring back Colin Powell.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:59 am | Reply
    • zlop

      "Bring back Colin Powell" ??
      Although a Obama admirer - Ranks extremely low on the Dishonesty Scale.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:20 am | Reply
  47. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    Let me see...according to the GOP, picking Susan Rice as Secretary State would be too risky because in their view she does not possess the skills and experience required to avert another Benghazi attack. But wait...so who the f–k was Secretary of State when the Benghazi attacks occured? And why is it Rice and not Clinton being asked to testify about the Benghazi attacks on Capital Hill? No, it has nothing to do with the color of her skin right? Other than President Obama, the only other figures in the President's administration to be rediculed and chastised by the GOP are Susan Rice and Eric Holder and it is clearly obvious that there is a deliberate witch hunt and conspiracy by the GOP to go after African-Americans in the President's administration.

    For four years the GOP has whined and complained about the policies of the Obama administration. But during this period, many in the GOP such as Newt Gingrich and even the likes of Donald Trump have praised Hillary Clinton's leadership and even said that they would support her if she was to make a run for the White House in 2016. So does the GOP really have a problem with the policies of the Obama administration or rather a problem with African-Americans within his administration? Recently, some in the GOP including John McCain said they would have no problem voting for Senator John Kerry if he is selected as Hillary Clinton's successor. So do John Kerry and Hillary Clinton support and uphold a republican agenda or the same policies as President Obama, Susan Rice and the Democratic Party? So why the double standard here? Recently, a member of the GOP said Rice is too aggressive and too vocal to be Secretary of State and that she would be more suited to be Democratic Campaign Adviser. Well, if that is not one of the typical racist right wing stereotype to classify an African-American female as an angry black woman, then I don't know what is more obvious. But this is how I see it... President Obama should go forward and select Ms.Rice to succeed Ms. Clinton and if the GOP have a problem with that, well so be it. After all, African-Americans in this country didn't overcome four hundred years of slavery and Jim Crow oppression by giving in to fear mongering and intimidation by racist right wing extremists in this country and neither did Rosa Parks.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:58 am | Reply
    • BillD

      I have no problem with women in high places, a matter of fact I'm all for it. However, I think one must question quite seriously the notion of having a woman Secretary of State. A majority of our foreign problems come from the Middle East and Muslim territories. We all know how they view women. We'd be far better off with a male trying to communitcate with these 15th century barbarians and ideologies.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:06 am | Reply
      • HincEtInde

        Mrs Hillary Clinton seems to be doing just fine as a woman!

        December 4, 2012 at 8:26 am |
      • Glo G

        Oh yeah, by all means let's suck up to the 15th century idiots who will hate the USA no matter WHO is in that position. We shouldn't move our own society backwards just because theirs is (and always will be).

        December 4, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Rob

      This have nothing to do with racism. This has to do with discrediting Rice, while promoting Kerry. Republicans want Kerry's senate seat.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
    • Rob

      I say nominate Susan Rice and make it clear that if she is not confirmed the next nomination will be a prominent Republican Senator who's seat will likely be filled by a Democrat.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:29 am | Reply
      • JohnnyHawk

        What a stupid comment, but right in line with Obama threat/intimidation tactics. What you don't understand is that the nominee has some say in whether they accept.

        December 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Mil

      My, you sound quite angry. Wipe that froth from your mouth and carry on with Tuesday. There's still time for you to do something more productive that proving the points you try so hard to place upon others.

      December 4, 2012 at 9:14 am | Reply
  48. Jerry Lemieux

    My money is on Kerry. Susan Rice would be pilloried during her confirmation hearing. And I'm sure Clinton is no far of Rice given how badly she trashed Hillary during the 2008 campaign. I'm bet it really stuck in Rice's craw when Obama appointed Clinton as Secretary of State.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:54 am | Reply
  49. Bob R.

    Snookie For Sec. Of State....

    December 4, 2012 at 7:54 am | Reply
  50. Sadie Boyd

    Susan Rice has too much of her personal wealth in oil and that gives her too much of a conflict of interest. Kerry and Obama are not pals, they are too diverse in their view of the world. John Huntsman would be an excellent Secretary of State. He should never dabble in economics, but he would do well in world affairs. BTW, to Kerry about McCain: Good One!

    December 4, 2012 at 7:51 am | Reply
  51. Joe

    Of course Rice. Support-

    December 4, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Susan Rice, having been a government insider all her life,
      is worth 25 million, every penny of it.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:54 am | Reply
  52. zlop

    LBGT promoting Susan Rice is a good loud voiced confuser.
    Wispy John Carry is a certified Bonehead.
    The choice is clear - A Druid Witch best promotes Evil World Order values.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
    • rosethornne

      Do you even speak English?
      Or are you just off your meds?

      December 4, 2012 at 10:28 am | Reply
  53. imposter

    This job should be filled by person who speaks at least three languages, Chinese, Arabic and English. Americans have no clue about foreign politics. Look where we are today? Nothing but fighting everywhere the world over. The best candidates are the SWISS. They know how to work with foreign nations, Americans do not.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
    • Bob R.

      Maybe the people who want to live in this country should speak ENGLISH !!!!

      December 4, 2012 at 7:49 am | Reply
  54. donnie

    Considering that our US Ambassador to Kuwait saw fit to meet with Kim Kardashian for reasons only known to him, I'm surprised that Obamy isn't considering KK. She'd fit in well with the rest of the crew.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:39 am | Reply
  55. Bob R.

    Make Obama SOS And put Kerry in the White House as Pres.....

    December 4, 2012 at 7:30 am | Reply
  56. Don P

    Don't see an issue, pick Kerry! Both parties seem to agree on that. Rice has issues. Give her a different post later after the smoke clears.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
    • imposter

      Kerry is OK. He was in Vietnam and smoked pot. That should do it for his qualifications? Oh yes he married a wealthy women, he is smart.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:45 am | Reply
    • Marc

      The GOP wants Kerry so a Senate seat opens up.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
  57. Memo2

    At the other hand Mrs Hillary Clinton should be stay till the investigation clear, regarding Benghazi .

    December 4, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
    • zlop

      To expose and purge the war reluctant Generals,
      Obama ordered Benghazi Stand-down.
      Hilary smartly kept quiet, protecting her Presidential aspirations.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
  58. Bob R.

    Does It Really matter whos in that Position?????Its just a Free ride to Travel all over the world on our expence....

    December 4, 2012 at 7:27 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Certainly matters.
      Global LBGT promotion needs a loud voiced Druid Witch.
      Big Sis Janet is low on Decibels.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:05 am | Reply
  59. Memo2

    The problem with Susan Rice, has complicate day by day her nomination so why Obama still nominated her to replacing Hillary Clinton ?.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:25 am | Reply
    • zlop

      Susan Rice is a Good Distractor.
      Hilary needs to start her presidential Campaign.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:12 am | Reply
  60. JT

    John Hunstman, now that's an idea. I'm afraid we're living in to much of a polarizing society for that.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:11 am | Reply
  61. Craig

    I say throw a real curve and offer the job to Colin Powell...That would set the Repubs reeling!...The man was shamed by having to deliver the speech for justification of the war in Iraq at the UN by the Bush administration and shortly after, left the job....He is qualified, has the experience and knowledge of world affairs, and is known the world over as a respectable man.It would be fun to see what kind of obstruction of his nomination by the Republicans would happen.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:05 am | Reply
  62. k

    How about John Huntsman?

    December 4, 2012 at 6:58 am | Reply
    • nadinesh

      ....if Republicans agree to Obama's tax reforms, they can have Huntsman.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:40 am | Reply
    • Mike, Jacksonville, Florida

      I am a very liberal Democrat, and I am all for a Huntsman appointment to the Foggy Bottom office. It would be a way to work to bi-partisanship, Americans also tend to be a lot more unified in foreign affairs than domestic, and the man is well qualified, fluent in Chinese. It would show the world and that nation that Americans are, for all of our differences, still willing to work together for our best interest, and that would be a powerful statement in these turbulent times. It would also keep the Democratic majority in the Senate and ensure Scott Brown does not return any time soon.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:10 am | Reply
  63. Tom W.

    Kerry as Sec State makes about as much sense as Jane Fonda for Sec Def. I guess what has to be determined is where Kerry will do the least harm: In his present post, or as SS. At least in the Senate there are 99 other people keeping an eye on him. Overall Huntsman would be a better choice over both Kerry or Rice.

    December 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
    • nadinesh

      Kerry is excellent. I don't understand your irrational animus, but then most people who post here just turn the key at the back of their knee and fire with not a word of justification. Why should you be different. Huntsman will be Secy of S when I win Powerball. But you already knew that. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:42 am | Reply
      • NAM VET


        December 4, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

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