Military judge removed from Fort Hood shooter case
By Jennifer Rizzo
A military appeals court has removed the judge who had been overseeing accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan’s court-martial, saying the judge was biased.
The ruling makes Col. Gregory Gross’ order for Hasan’s beard to be shaved invalid. Hasan has objected to the order with various appeals, citing religious freedom.
“We order the removal of the military judge on the basis of the appearance of bias,” the court document states.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces faulted Gross with allowing the proceedings to become a “duel of wills” between him and Hasan rather than focusing on the serious crimes with which Hasan is charged.
Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, has been charged with 13 counts of murder in connection with the November 2009 shooting spree at Fort Hood, the sprawling Army post in central Texas.
The court, however, did not rule on the beard issue directly and left open the possibility that a future judge may order Hasan shaved again.
“Should the next military judge find it necessary to address Appellant's beard, such issues should be addressed and litigated anew,” the document states.
Army regulations prevent most soldiers from wearing facial hair while in uniform. Hasan, a practicing Muslim, maintains that he has the right to wear the beard under federal law protecting religious rights.
The high-level appeals court is an independent tribunal with worldwide jurisdiction over active-duty members of the U.S. armed forces and others subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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What a ridiculous waste of money and time!
Shortcut solution: An express one-way trip to Allah similar to the other monster, Ben Laden!
This guy is a terrorist. Since when do terrorist have rights?! You shouldn't get rights once you take away another persons right to life.
Enough is enough! This man is still a member of the ARMY and is still being paid. I'm guessing at this point that even the military justice system has become spineless. Hasan gave up his right to grow a beard when he signed the dotted line entering the ARMY. For those interested the AMRY regulation on dress a appearance is as follows....
1–8. Hair and fingernail standards and grooming policies
(c) Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform or in civilian clothes on duty. Mustaches are permitted;
if worn, males will keep mustaches neatly trimmed, tapered, and tidy. Mustaches will not present a chopped off or
bushy appearance, and no portion of the mustache will cover the upper lip line or extend sideways beyond a vertical
line drawn upward from the corners of the mouth (see figure 1–1). Handlebar mustaches, goatees, and beards are not
authorized. If appropriate medical authority prescribes beard growth, the length required for medical treatment must be
specified. For example, “The length of the beard will not exceed 1⁄4 inch” (see TB MED 287). Soldiers will keep the
growth trimmed to the level specified by appropriate medical authority, but they are not authorized to shape the growth
into goatees, or “Fu Manchu” or handlebar mustaches.
who cares about the darn beard? While agree he should have to shave it, I also don't think it's important enough to tie up this case so long. It's just not that important. Just drop it and get on with this monster's trial
Well here we go again, another person wanting to use the muslim religion to save theirself from something they did, and then not wanting to fess up to it. either way sooner than he thinks, he will either be dead(72 virgins and the palace of gold LOL!!) or will rot in his cell and a few years from now no one will hardly remember who he was.
Towel Heads IS what Towel Heads DO!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha
what a miserable life this criminal now has. There is no positive this person brought to this world. He killed 13 people and now he'll sit alone in a jail cell until the end of his life. He could have had a positive effect in this life and instead he chose this miserable existence. As he takes his last breath, others speak his name for the last time, the total waste of human energy will show nothing for his existence. Zero, Zip, Nada, Null,
Another culling of the righteous. Remove the Judge who insisted that the beard be shaved to keep the Islamists at bay.
This goes up to the CIC. The influence, and stink, is unmistakable.
@Jerry
Ok thats fine then lets call the US aiding Syrian rebels what it is..Funding of Terrorism.
Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, Mass Murderer and Terrorist.
Bravo Company of the 3rd Platoon—part of the 5th Stryker Brigade – Murders and Sadist
Truth, The funniest thing this morning to me is knowing there are people out there like you that are so mindless and believe that you can help the your cause by ranting whatever in these comment sections. I feel sorry for you and I hope when Santa comes to visit this month he doesn't leave you coal. Just think after Santa comes then the Easter Bunny will come in a few months.
heh this is so funny... American troops kill innocent people who were non combatants but when American troops are killed it is a outrage..
Okay hurts…. Show us on the doll where the big bad American touched you.
You sound like a commie
This was terrorist attack, by another mus lim terrorist. Its ok to tell the truth and call it like it is. Why do we dance around calling a terrorist attack, a terrorist attack? This guy was in touch via internet with a mid-east cleric. Man, I hope our government gets some backbone.
But Jerry, isn't one nation's terrorist another's FREEDOM FIGHTER? It all boils down to which side you're own? America is using drones to drop bombs wiping out innocent civilian men, women, children and babies. Taken right from the Bible, Samuel 1 and the story of Saul. Where *God* ordered Saul to go into the village of killed the Amalekites. That he, Saul, was to spare no one. Not men, women, childre, babies, oxen or other livestock. *God* was only royally pis*ssed at Saul because Saul failed to fully carry out the orders. He spared to king of the Amalekites and kept all the choicer meats for himself. That really ticked *God* off. Such a wonderful, loving *Christian* $God$. Dontcha think?
Muslim terrorist is makes no sense. Islam translated into English means peace. Peaceful terrorist???? Muslim terrorist is a oxymoron, MORON.
WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY-TAKE HIM OUT AND SHOOT HIM ONE BULLET $1.25-JUST LOOK AT THE SAVINGS AND THE MESSAGE IT WOULD SEND
Give him the one stroke shave. The one that takes his head off.
Why is this filth even still living?
Newton's laws of motion. Americans commit war crims against people all the time and then it comes back to them and then you people whine.
Where are you when American's commit war crimes
We are here trying to change things in a corrupt system that is systematically removing OUR rights and trying to put us into Serfdom. Many do care, Truth, and we are here screaming at deaf minions.
Where were we? We were standing there pointing and laughing at people who think normal military operations are "war crimes."
OK America commits war crimes....................But honestly cowards like yourself do more damage to this world than AMERICA will and can ever do.
Truth, you speak of these war crimes. To which war crimes are you referring?
You do know he is still receiving a pay check from the government...So he needs to shave and be in uniform...Lets get on with it and finish this trial...Even Nuramburg did'nt take this long.
Fine, let him have his beard but do not allow him to wear the uniform he has disgraced. Make him appear in a prison jumpsuit and get on with it already.
killing thirteen troops, and wounding many more? Maybe his punishment should be thirteen angry swine who hasn't been feed for a week to eat this guy to death!
Americans are such hypocrites. Your troops know and accept that dying is a potential part of their job. You willingly, knowlingly and support your troops killing unarmed woman and children, violate sovereign nations, violate your laws, follow leaders with no moral standing or convinction. Yet some how this guy is the worse then all of that ? I guess as long as you can sit in your home and judge others and not have to do anything other then watch American idle, post on the internet and not for once accept that your country and your troops bring these actions on themselves you will be ok...what a joke
And look at you, no better than the americans you despise, with your post.
Truth, how moral are YOUR leaders? Do they live up to your expectations as well? I have a feeling they fall short as well. No system , ideology, or man-made reason justifies murdering innocent or even UN-ARMED people. That, Truth, in ANY country or ANY culture is pure COWARDICE. This is what this person did and that should be the focus. Americans, Britons, Russians, Africans, South Americans, Mexicans, Arabs, and Isrealis....all have sins to answer for.
Here you are posting on the CNN boards....an example of the very people you claim to despise. Pontificate somewhere else my kraut mcfriend. you have no opinion here.
@ The Truth hurts
After reading a number of your posts, you sir are in no position to call someone a hypocrite.
I can't even take your post seriously... You ma'am, are the joke
Truth, No one is this world is perfect including yourself. This man had no reasoning to do the things he did, except hope he was shot and killed to receive his 72 ugly virgins. This man is a disgrace not only to the AMERICAN military but to all human beings. You sit there and post rants about how bad America is but what have you done to help improve the relations between America and others, What have you done to help the cause.........NOTHING You are a big part of the problem with this world, just like many others. You want to help the cause then stop ranting about how bad America is help the cause like many of us in this world.
Only some Americans are hypocrites. We support are our troops to protect this nation. As you would expect any nation to do so. Just remember, America was not at war with anyone, when over 3000 people died for an extremist view. The people of radical Islam brought the fight to the lands of Muslims, no one else. But yet Muslim people celebrate in the streets when that happened.
What's a good thing was that Muslims revolted after the Libyan embassy was bombed and the ambassador was killed. That is what should have happened all the time.
What a waste of time.
Hassan is guilty as charged......cut to the chase and give him a trial. The only issue is whether he's crazy.
If he's sane, then get some rope out.
What was this appeals court thinking? The Army regulations are clear. Idiots.
Actually, it's a good call. Allowing this murderer to fight the trial by not shaving was asinine, and making a big deal of it was even worse. Why he hasn't been tried, sentenced and executed is beyond me – witnesses and video show him in the act. He deserves to be executed swiftly, and buried covered in pig's blood to show the Islamists that we're not going to put up with their delusions.
Army Regulation 670-1, paragraph 1-8a(2)(c): Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform or in civilian clothes on duty. Mustaches are permitted; if worn, males will keep mustaches neatly trimmed, tapered, and tidy. Mustaches will not present a chopped off or bushy appearance, and no portion of the mustache will cover the upper lip line or extend sideways beyond a vertical line drawn upward from the corners of the mouth (see figure 1–1). Handlebar mustaches, goatees, and beards are not authorized. If appropriate medical authority prescribes beard growth, the length required for medical treatment must be specified. For example, “The length of the beard will not exceed 1⁄4 inch” (see TB MED 287). Soldiers will keep the growth trimmed to the level specified by appropriate medical authority, but they are not authorized to shape the growth into goatees, or “Fu Manchu” or handlebar mustaches.
This regulation does not address religious beliefs, only medical. Since he is a major in the U.S. Army, the beard must go!
The head of the EE Department at West Point in the 70's, COL Cutler, had a magnificent moustache. The Army often lets things slide.
You mean the 1870's, right? LOL
It seems that the military is caving in to the Muslims. I hope not. That is a precedent the military does not want to set!
There wouldn't be much point in having a trial if the verdict gets overturned because of judical bias. Of course, it's easier to just say the military is caving, that requires no thinking.
This is really a non-issue (thinking or otherwise) since Army Regulations forbid beards.
Hang him by his fingers. He is a terrorist. Obama would have you believe the situation was workplace violence.
Get on with the trial... which may last at least 30 years at this rate!
shave this clown, hang him upside down, do whatever you want to him. He should be shot out of hand, after being tortured.
What are we afraid of? the egyptians protesting? WHO GIVES A SHIITE? This guys needs to suffer.
I'm in the military, and am all for regulations and following the UCMJ, etc. But come on, get on with it. He's already tarnished and shamed the uniform. Let the whacko sit there with a beard as he hears the guilty verdict and (hopefully) gets the death sentence. Move on with the process before this drags on so long that we forget what he did.
Petty stuff right now.
really ? this is the guy who shames the uniform
The Truth Hurts: I've read some of your other posts. I don't know what your purpose is with what you've written here, but I guess that you are insuating either 1) that I myself shame the uniform or 2) all of the 'horrible criminal' acts that US Soldiers have done abroad overshadow Hassan's heinous crime. I think it's a horrible point you make, by comparing apples to oranges, to watermelons...to bears.
So you don't really touch upon my comment in any material way. Other than wasting my time by responding with the same line (like your other 10-15 random posts above), please actually have some substance with what you're responding to, not just the same drumbeat over and over again to get a rise out of people.
Just add the violation of regulations to his list of charges. Kind of like a cherry on top of a sundae.
Anyone notice a pattern with this case? Our govt seems more concerned with not offending shariah compliant sensibilities vs bringing a terrorist to justice... of course, this was not terrorism, just "workplace violence"... nothing to see here folks, just move along...
Hire the Queen of Hearts. She'll take care of the beard and the sentencing all at one time.
Remove his beard, we will have it our way. Do not yield to this terrorist. Take away his koran.
dry shave him
Religious freedom does not trump law or military requirements.
Execution is what he wants. It's over too quickly and is too easy. Send him to a Supermax prison. He will live the rest of his life in his own isolated hell, will never become a martyr, and the world will simply forget about him over time while he wastes away in a concrete cell, losing what is left of his mind while staring out of a 4-inch window into the prison courtyard.
Why isn't his terrorist in Guantanamo?
Because O and his gang declared the Ft Hood Massacre "workplace violence"...
Why is this traitor still alive? He should've been hanged or faced a firing squad by now. ..I don't get it.. is there any doubt as to his guilt?
no
"This man murdered thirteen people. Hmm...better make a big deal about his beard." GENIUS.
Yeah, that was when I realized that the judge should be tossed too. Who cares whether the guy's facial hair is an exact match to what it was on the day of the shooting? Was the judge going to demand that a hair stylist be called in? The guy wasn't in a wheelchair on the day of the shooting either – what was the judge going to do about that? Idiot judge. Let the guy look like what all us 'murricans figure terr'ists look like if wants to. Idiot shooter.
He is still bound by the UCMJ, and is still a major in the US Army. He cannot have a beard, unless for medical reasons, even then its limited to I believe 1/4 an inch long.
He should also lose weight and color his gray. A little body waxing wouldn't hurt either (well..actually it would). He should also get some dental work done before the trial. Oh..let's not forget Botox. Let's make him look 10 years younger.
Is murder a protected religious right?
Get on with it, due process, and a fair & speedy trial.
You are comparing a beard to murder. Shame on you.
Good. Though the man on trial is a true villain, that judge just wasted time and credibility.
This is all a waste of time and money. It does not matter whether he wears a beard or not. He needs to be tried and sentenced accordingly.
Hear hear!
Hasan freely signed up for the Military as a Muslim and agreed to the military's rules – Shave him!
Uh yeah pretty sure he converted later. I wonder what you'd say if he were a Christian and wasn't allowed to wear a cross.
Shave his butt...if they let this stand, there will be more using this case as a precedent to not shave. Secondly, to your response, you can't wear the cross outside of your uniform...it has to be tucked in...and in my job in the military...you can't wear one at all due to the job....so it's not about his religious, it's about what he signed up to do, fail to do and lets get on to excuting his behind...I say the next judge come in and put him in regs and shave him. He deserves no rights for killing HIS fellow servicemen
If he thought it was that important, he could have applied for a religious dispensation. They are allowed for Jews, Sihks, and Muslims.
Wake up people. This is another case of islam using our system against us. We need to quit being so politically correct and eliminate this menace of a so called religion from the world.
the only good islamist is a dead islamist.
and by that, I mean the insane ones that don't respect human rights, not the conservative muslims.
So the only good latino is a dead latino???
Red, and by that you mean the ones here illegally, not the legal ones, right?
No it's simply a counter statement to the garbage emigdio wrote. You have Muslims and you have criminals. Islamists, Muslim terrorists, islamic extremists,etc are just phrases thought up by the bigots of the world. I'm just saying if he's going to do it to one group, does he enjoy it being done to his people?
Gee, Red, I guess all those terrorists who proclaim that they are acting in the name of Islam are all just a bunch of liars.
They are a bunch of liars. Just like the klan saying killing every black and jew in the name of Jesus is a lie. It's a shame you believe them and not the good people of this world. But that doesn't surprise me. You're just typical.
Is that the Christian menace or the Muslim menace you are talking about? They are so alike I get confused.
In that case, you are too easily confused. How DID you get that computer into your padded cell by the way?
Equating a terrorist with a Christian...how convenient of you. CA Liberal = Communist comparison would be more appropriate. Not that you would complain or anything.
I hate religious liberty too. Such a freaking waste of time.
Right on! It just makes us look incompetent when trash like this hinders justice. hurry up and prosecute this guy. leave his bear on when he hangs!
blood begets blood. by the bloodthirsty comments abounding here we should be wallowing in blood for a few more generations.
military dress code says clean shaven. he's not biased he's enforcing what this guy signed up for.
The PC crowd (and I do not mean Windows fan boys) has gone too far this time. Shave the SOB with a propane torch, bag him and use the bag for target practice for a 40mm auto cannon.
It is the US justice system, if you don't like it move.
Somalia or North Korea should have an efficient legal system more to your taste: anti PC, anti political and anti correct.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say-he gets life.
An eye for an I says I.............................................................................................
This man committed these murders FOR his religion. He made this clear when he did it. But the reports will not even mention that fact. He went into the base and murdered his fellow soldiers. He SAID he did it due to Islam. Why won't anyone believe him? I do. That's for sure. Just like the 18 terrorists committed 9/11 in the name of Islam. And those who blew up the USS Cole. And all the honor killings and all the stonings etc. They do it for their religion. They have no remorse. They are considered heroes by their families. You DO know that Muslims celebrated in the streets on Sept. 11, don't you? I saw the photos and videos of it.
I saw hundreds upon hundreds of Muslims in the developed world mourning for the deaths. You like to use the blanket term "Muslim" with no regard for socio-economic, regional, or political context. Shame on you.
By the way, such customs as "honor killings" are actually tribal customs that predate Islam. Islamic rulers harshly punished the practice of these customs when areas of the Middle East were first being converted. Eventually they gave up. Stoning is also called for in Christianity. The difference is that Christianity on the whole is enjoying a more more privileged existence. (There are exceptions, of course...ask the victims of gang rape in the Congo how their good Christian brothers are treating them.) You might want to spend a bit of time reading up on religious history. It's fascinating, and God knows you're in desperate need of some enlightenment.
When you practice reductive thinking, you are as dangerous to your species as the people blowing up buildings. I am sickened by people like you.
Amen Masha. None of these people considered the KKK "Christian extremists" or "Christian terrorists." Good ol fashioned American bigots. You get a pass if you're evil and WHITE.
No, you didn't.
Masha, you are a persistent liar. According to the UN, Muslims commit 91% of all "honor killings."
this has gone on way too long. enough is enough. shave that mess off with a chain saw, then send him over to the firing squad and be done with it.
He looks like a terrd.
Understand that even a Private follows orders. As a soldier, he is to have no beard and he volunteered for the miltary. He is using religion to justify his beard? I guess he can use his religion to justify the murders.
Mennonites and Mormons have no such murderer, if they did we would be surprised, whereas for islam there is no surprise, because it is who they are.
America is a dead nation.
CSX......America lives.....your just brain dead.
Shave his beard with a straight razor and press really, really hard.
Sand papers are the best, and more human.
I fully support Colonel Gregory Gross. Convict this p OS, and get r done. Our country really is going down the drain.
That's what I've been saying. He's not going to be needing a gas mask in court! It's just a F&$*&N% beard! Forget the $@&&@M beard and get his sorry @ss to trial! ;op
No wonder the Muslims dispise us as weak and cowards
Send him to a Military Prison for life.
It will be a fate worse than death.
He'll wish he he was dead every time he wakes up and sees his guards smiling at him.
No 70 virgins there
Took a while to realize this was not the Barman/Joker mkUltra shooter.
The worst possible sentence he could receive is to be sent to a Military Prison for life.
It will be a living hell worse than death.
Praise be to Allah !!!
This is just down right crazy. The UCMJ says no facial hair and this murderer has been alive too long. Congrats to the officer who put him in the wheelchair. Well, Bush's fault or the YouTube video.
I think a 12 gauge would take that beard right off.
I'd dry shave the miserable b@st%d with my rusty buck knife if they'd let me. ;oD
🙂
The defendant should be allowed to wear his beard at all stages of the criminal process he is now going through – from trial through execution. And pictures of him should be publicized through every stage, to let others see what the face of terrorism looks like... and how this country treats those who practice it .
Funny how his paycheck wasn't against his 'religion' when he was receiving it...oh wait...he is STILL getting pay and benefits while on trial....hmmmm...how convenient and since retired from the Reserves, I don't get my retirement for 12 more years!!!! I didn't commit murder and I have to wait...hmmmm......IF YOU GET A PAYCHECK, YOU still have to conform to ARMY standards...orange jumpsuit or NOT....once again, the religious fanatics (much like that wacko woman protesting military funerals – Cindy Sheehan) get their way...ridiculous; I am glad I am out and away from the bull –it...
If you are a retired Major like you say you are, then you would know that while awaiting court marshal or any other UCMJ action that requires incarceration, you do not receive pay. PERIOD. Ask me how I know? I was found not guilty during a UCMJ preceding that required I stay confined the duration of the trial... 4 months NO PAY. NO APOLOGY.
So does this "Officer" in the Army excluded from following the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It does hold it's people accountable and there are also grooming standards, and last I check a beard in not allowed. And why is they terrorist still inside the borders of the Continental United States? Should he not be with his own kind in GITMO? This is after all a Military trial and civilian lawyers should have no say in this case. I vote for him to be allowed to keep his beard, and I also vote for him to be sent to GITMO. And his lawyers can paddle to see him on their dime, not the good American people.
The American Military has not won a war in over 65 years. Sure battles have been won, but it is the End-Game that counts!
From Korea to the present involvement in the Middle East nothing have they have produced but Dead and Maimed
Americans. This article is an excellent example of the Nincompoops that will surely bring this country to Eternal Ruin!
The military won Korea, VietNam, Desert Storm, and THE COLD WAR. The politicians like O'mama lost those wars! Oh, Bush's fault or the YouTube video was the problem!
At least we produced one great hero, General PETRAEUS !!! He is a great general, and husband!
Absolutely! I have no doubt his mistress will claim just that in her memoirs! She gonna get rich on da book deal! Can't wait to read about their pillow talk! ;oD
I do believe you did quite well in Panama and Granada. Well done.
An orange jumpsuit doesn't look like a uniform to me...
Doesn't deserve to be in uniform. Should have been shot by now. Oh, all Bush's fault or the YouTube video.
the orange jumpsuit IS a uniform silly
Umm... actually by definition an orange jumpsuit IS a uniform... xD Really?
stupid. he agreed to the rules when he signed up – so he should be forced to adhere to them now. This is just a stall tactic.
rot in hell you piece of dung
amen
This has dragged on for way to long. Firing squad. NOW.
Amen!
Respect military decorum, despite all religion. Shave the beard.
Do not allow Islam's typical excessiveness this new inroad.
To hell with the beard issue. Lethal Injection will solve that problem.
Just let the SOB grow his beard and then use it to hang him with.
Military justice... what a joke.
Why is he still alive?
just hang him before his beard becomes an issue again.
Exactly right. It is time for the tail to stop wagging the dog.