What would bring an end to Gaza conflict?
By Jill Dougherty
A short time after arriving in Jerusalem for a late-night meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke slowly and deliberately in outlining the purpose of her trip.
"The goal must be a durable outcome that promotes regional stability and advances the security and legitimate aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians alike," Clinton said about ending the violence in Gaza.
You could almost see Clinton underlining the word "durable." Standing beside her, Netanyahu had a similar emphasis, speaking of the desire for a "long-term solution to this problem."
Too many cease-fires in the region have been shattered and long-time experts on the Middle East cautioned that guns that fall silent often don't stay silent for long.
"I think the most likely scenario is that there is a cease-fire, hopefully brokered by the United States and Egypt, and we all go back to exactly where we were before. In a couple of years we start this process all over again," Middle East analyst Reza Aslan told CNN.
Timeline: Israel-Gaza conflict
Aaron David Miller, Public Policy Scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center, cited Israel's ground incursion in 2008 and 2009 which yielded three years of relative quiet.
"It's hard to imagine, unless certain incentives were added to the package, that you could get another outcome that would last that long," he said.
Netanyahu spokesman Mark Regev doesn't want history to repeat itself.
"We don't need a quick fix just to have everything explode in our face next week or next month," he said. "When we come out of this crisis, we want to be in a situation where we have a sustained period of peace and quiet. The civilians on both sides of the frontier deserve that," Regev told Wolf Blitzer in an interview on CNN's "Situation Room."
A spokesman for Hamas told Blitzer that Hamas believes past cease-fire agreements with Israel have been violated by the Israeli side. A truce could be agreed to by Hamas if the security of the Palestinian population is explicitly part of any deal.
"The security is supposed to also be for the Palestinians," Osama Hamdan, a Hamas spokesman based in Beirut said in a telephone interview. "What we are working on now is to have a complete deal which can secure the situation also for the Palestinians. This is our responsibility. If that was guaranteed, I think, I believe, also that Hamas will implement this kind of truce, and we will fulfill our commitments according to that."
Israel said it was holding off on a ground offensive into Gaza to give diplomatic efforts time. Gaza is run by Hamas, which the United States and numerous other countries consider a terrorist organization.
On Tuesday, an onslaught of rockets fired into Israel was met by Israeli strikes on Gaza sites. The Gaza Ministry of Health said 137 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,100 injured so far in a week of violence. According to Israel's Soroka Hospital, five people have been killed in Israel and more than 70 have been injured.
Robin Wright, joint fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace and Woodrow Wilson Center, who has covered every war in the Middle East since 1973, told CNN that "no cease fire endures in the Middle East without something tangible happening diplomatically."
"The problem," Wright said, "always is there is just another round, it lasts only so long."
Wright said Clinton's challenge will be not just to encourage both sides to sustain a cease fire, but to "create the incentive to ensure that they will abide by it – and that means tackling the tough issues."
Wright envisions a three-step process: a ceasefire; a solution for issues that immediately impact Gaza like the Israeli blockade; and then the big issues, like Israeli settlements in the occupied territories.
But the split between the radical Hamas leadership and the more moderate leadership of Mahmoud Abbas, head of the Palestinian Authority, makes that much more difficult, experts said.
"At a certain point Israel is going to have to recognize that Hamas, whether it likes it or not, is the actual government in Gaza, and it's going to have to figure out a long-term solution to maintaining a viable ceasefire and that might include easing the blockade against Gaza," Reza Aslan said.
"There are no longer two players in the peace process," said Wright. "There are three: The Israelis, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza."
"Until ten days ago Mahmoud Abbas appeared to have the initiative," she said.
Now, Hamas looks like it has the lead and, she added, "You can't marginalize Hamas anymore."
Palestinian internal divisions, however, are making what Clinton calls a "durable outcome" unlikely – at least for now.
"Can the Palestinians unite in order to be able to get to Phase Three?" asked Wright. "They haven't been able to do it so far."
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If you're serious about knowing more about this situation, the Presbyterian and Episcopalian Churches have produced a video (about an hour) that can be watched at: http://www.israelpalestinemissionnetwork.org/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=184. They've had mission in Israel for a number of years and have a good understanding of the problems. They really don't offer a way for peace, but they do a good job of pointing out the injustices, which are really bizarre for the 21st century. Perhaps when they end, an opportunity for peace can occur.
The only thing that will bring Peace to the Middle East is Jesus' return. I hope that one of the Gaza rockets hits the Dome of the Rock so that Israel can begin building the Third Temple which is prophesied.
Now that conflict has come, the only way to limit its duration is to apply decisive force.
Answer me this: How many more wars are left in the history of mankind on earth? One, two, ten, We probably couldn't survive twenty or thirty, and we are now making war at a more rapid pace than ever in history. We'd better start learning how to make peace now–it's going to take some practice before we get it right. And for our children's sake, we can't get it wrong..
What will end the fighting?
nothing. Semites have fought since before Moses and this is what you get when you have extremists so close to each other.
It will never end and we will never wise up and stop getting ourselves involved.
the question is pointless
Are you serious? What will end the fighting? When the Arab/Muslim world, the Palestinians specifically in this case, renounce their misguided religious doctrine to destroy Israel. "Religion poisons everything" and it has since the beginning of recorded history to this very day. You are a pathetic world!
I know that when Hilary Clinton goes to meet Netanyu, she goes to Israel. When she goes to meet the leader of Hamas, does she go into the Gaza strip?
Or does she request that they meet in Israel?
The answer would be very insightful as to whom she trusts.
"On Tuesday, an onslaught of rockets fired into Israel was met by Israeli strikes on Gaza sites. The Gaza Ministry of Health said 137 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,100 injured so far in a week of violence. According to Israel's Soroka Hospital, five people have been killed in Israel and more than 70 have been injured." Says it all.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-promise/4od
Award winning drama by Channel 4 in the UK about the Israeli / Palestinian conflict told across 2 different eras.
Captivating, heart wrenching, heart warming and very moving.
There will be no peace as long as Hamas is in charge. The Gazans chose them as leaders so they bear the responsibility.
Spoken by a true Israeli supporter. Good, keep it up...
Doesn't matter which side anyone supports. Facts are facts. People of Gaza chose Hamas over Fatah......they get what they deserve..
we had terrorism under Yasser as well - don't be stupid.
Not correct, there will be no peace as long the leaders in Gaza will NOT understand that their actions make their people suffere, when they would start taking care of their owen people there will be the change
What would end the conflict in Gaza? If Israel could do what it wants which is to obliterate their neighbors off of the map.
They bomb the tiny bit of land they have left with glee, they enjoy it. I never used to think this, but Israel is the terrorist state.
If Israel wanted to obliterated Gaza, they could have done it in a day. Only bleeding heart Palestinian supporters cannot tell truth from fiction. Israel warns the civilians to get out of the area before an attack.. does Hamas...NO. Israel destroys Hamas buildings after they have evacuated, that is why the death toll is not much higher. Without these warnings via leaflets, text messages, and phone calls, the Palestinian death toll would be in the thousands. Show me one other nation that warns the enemy and and gives them time to leave before an attack. You can't.
"Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors." – Hamas charter.
The people of the middle east need to understand that Satan and his crew of losers are behind hatred,lies ,arrogance,deception,insurrection,manipulation,killing innocent folks ,chaos-and ultimately trying to thwart GODS plans as well as desecrating GODS LAWS. Their agenda is to destroy Mankind and bring Hell on Earth!! All men beware of those forces- they will never win!!! Praise be to GOD!!!
Try reading the Taylor Prism bright boy.
Cease Fire in the Mid East ? LOL LOL Look how well that worked in Syria, gimme a freakin' break!! Israel wants a ground war, so be it. Be prepared for WW3 this ain't no joke either.
Israel needs Sherrif Joe Policys–hardline execute all people with explosives,terrorists/leaders that are extremists, and too pull out of Palestine after signing a peace treaty–rid yourselves of the Palestinian/problem child people!!! The Arab world needs to rally around the JEWS (GODS chosen people) to protect them and stop preaching hate!!! I support Israel disarming those crazy's of all rockets and explosives! Palestinians should only have small arms to defend themselves!! All terrorist leaders/groups dont have the support of the people-they are just dictators hiding behind religion fighting for power!!
I don't get it. Why doesn't Hamas just stop antagonizing the Israelis? If my neighbor kept flinging crap into my backyard after I keep asking him not to, eventually I will go over there and punch him in the neck.
What a stupid group of people.
I guess this will end when the Palestinians run out of Qassam rockets?
Good point!
The Hawks and the Right wing nuts have so captured the voice and thinking of half America ...those they fooled and manipulated into voting for Romney , it is no wonder we have 75 percent of Republcans backing Israel"s every action. These are extremist here in America ....We have a American Jhiad being led by the right wing and the tea party nuts right now ...they don't use bullets yet , they use words ...I just keep waiting for the day when one of those nutso tea baggers blows something up.
The fighting will end in Gaza when it is turned into a parking lot by Israel.
you sound like such a Hawk ..oh wait you probably don't even know what that means ...go google it you might learn something aobut yourself.
Well that is what ISRAEL wants. They WISH to distinguish their neighbors. They bomb them with glee and they always get away with it... Gee, I wonder why?
NO CEASE-FIRE will bring Peace. The VIOLENCE has been escalating since HAMAS took control of Gaza. There has to be a RESPONSIBLE partner for Israel to end the Conflict. The Best Solution would be for Egypt to provide Permanent Peacekeepers in Gaza who would be Responsible for Preventing Rockets from being Launched into Israel and as a Protection for the Palestinians against Israeli Air Raids. US Aid to Egypt would be contingent upon their success.
How to fix.
Israel has everything.
Gaza has practically nothing.
Create an equality in everything. Share. Try love, it works both ways. Respect each others faiths.
We're all on the same planet and right now, we have a lot more to worry about than a few acres of real estate because, there are some very evil bankers that want all of it and you none.
Pretty soon and I do mean soon, we need to pull together and rid ourselves of this evil empire that has taken control of our governments. They want you to war. They want us dead.
Please people, consider this and work together otherwise, non of us will have anything.
I loved this post ....at least one other rational sane voice amongst the pit of irrational noise ..Thank you for making me keep on believing in humanity.
Very nice sentiment but... when they have almost nothing and they use what little resources they have to make rockets and not feed their children.... something is wrong. If you then give them additional aid, they will have even more resources to build rockets.
Try reading Article 13 of the Hamas charter bright boy
Israel uses it tax money to improve the defenses for its citizens, to provide free medical care, free dental care, and better roads than we have here in the US. What does Hamas use its money for? They use it to buy weapons, not food. They claim the people cannot get basic needs yet they have a border with Egypt that those needs could easily come through. Instead, they smuggle weapons through tunnels and freely under the watchful eyes of the Egyptians.
Tell Hamas and the rest of Islamic radicals to surrender!
I applaud CNN for being progressive and see that the times are changing. In light of its new found enlightenment, it was 10 steps regressive when Erin Burnett put Nicholas Burns, a person who served in the Bush administration, an era of war mongering, to offer commentary on the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. Does Erin Burnett want us to switch to BBC instead. The last time that happened to CNN, was when it aired to much nonsense of Lou Dobbs. Erin pitches heavy weights of Israeli supporters with little known Palestinian supporters. Does she have the courage to bring someone like Jimmy Carter on her show. Little chance, in my view, she'd lose the base that's supporting her. Erin Burnett is the new Lou Dobbs of CNN, and by the time CNN realizes that, millions like me will be changing channels to BBC or a fairer reporting news channel.
The era of 'fair' ended when Arafat rejected the best deal ever offered to the Palestinians during the Clinton presidency and showed what he really was.
What is the end game? Armageddon
This was all written about thousands of years ago
Like all the issues in the middle east it is extremely simple and extremely complex at the same time. If Hamas changed its charter, acknowledged Israel, stop with the heavy armaments the embargo would be lifted. See all those civilian places unbuilt from 2009. Even though aid has been given, the resources have been diverted by Hamas from civilian infrastructure to build terror infrastructure. The missile silos, the cement and bricks were for houses for civilians etc. If you lift the embargo and allow merchant ships to dock, you will have direct deliveries of heavy armaments to the Strip tripling the number of rockets.
"If only the side I don't like would just give up, the conflict would be over." Do you have any more naively simplistic "solutions" to share with the world?
The Arabs know that if Hamas change their charter, acknowledge Israel and have a demilitarized security force, no heavy weapons. The embargo would be lifted. They either cannot bring about this outcome or do not wish too, which means if you cannot get Hamas to do that you cannot maintain a ceasefire. And at the core are two different paths armed resistance and negotiations. If you submit to terror, then it will grow and armed resistance is seen as the way to resolve issues and the moderates are gone. So we talk to one half of the Palestinians and take rockets from the other so you have a peace deal given to Mazen and Cast Lead to Hamas from Olmert. The two different paths.
Gaza should become part of Egypt, and its citzens offered Egyptian citizenship. The 1949 armistice 'green line' boundaries (not 1947) of the West Bank should be a new Palestinian state, with the following conditions: UN monitored limits on armaments for self-defense capabilities only, preservation and access for visitors to historical and religious sites, no Israeli settlements or occupation but recognition of Israel's right to exist and no further claims of 'right of return' outside of West Bank, and a fully modern democratic state with individual rights. To the north, a UN occupied buffer zone in south Lebanon (and possibly Golan heights as well). As for Jerusalem, the western suburbs would be part of Israel, the eastern suburbs part of Pal. state, the central city either split in half or overseen by international monitors with equal representation from each side. That's my opinion. Any lasting agreement must be brokered and agreed to by the international community then agreed to by each fighting side. Direct negotiations between each side on their own will never succeed. There must be an agreement that the US, Europe, Russia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, Syria and other larger outside countries can agree to and then influence Israel and the Palestinians to accept and abide by.
HAVE YOU NOTICE HOW NOTHING HAS HAPPENED YET
If the Arab world would accept the right for Israel to exist and let them live in peace then trust could be built over time. Israel could lift the blockade because no lomger would Hamas try to smuggle weapons in. It would also help if Egypt would allow free passage too.
Certain Arab nations will never accept Israel. It will go on and on. Israel should have never stopped in the Seven day war if the want respect and peace. They have another chance now to use their power and get it over with once and for all and start using it. They should also keep the territory they win for Israel whose population is growing. It they don't look out for themselves, the wolves will close in.
In other words, if only Palestinians would be content with being herded into the Gaza ghetto and having their land in the West Bank systematically stolen piecemeal by Israeli settlers, and if the rest of the Arab (and more generally, the civilized) world began ignoring these plights, then everything would be OK. It sounds like you get all your information and perspectives from cable news.
and if the Israeli's gave back all the land they stole with the help of the Western world and paid the Arabs for all the suffering and admitted that they have sujected 2 generations of Palestinians to living in refugee camps, you might get peace as well. If a third party country say China forcibly gave Texas back to Mexico ( after arming Mexico to the teeth with the latest weaponry) because the land was theirs years and years ago and told the Texans they were losing their land homes livliehoods etc how do you think the Texans or the U S for that matter would react. Start facing facts that the people with the 4th largest military in the world are not victims. and for the record i am not a huge fan of Hamas either but I do believe Hamas was formed after years of Israeli oppression so again what you sow is what you will reap
Why are the palestinians such a hateful people? Why do they harass and try to intimidate Israel with bombs and rockets throughout the year and cause so much fear and destruction? Why do some Arab nations hate the Jews so bad that they would like to see them all killed? The Jews have sufferred throughout history – what have they done to deserve any of it? I don't get it? If they are blamed for giving Jesus up to Pontius Pilate, it was prophesized to happen that way. The Israelis want to live in peace and live a decent life just like everyone else. There seems to be a few dictatorial problem makers, namely Syria (who are massacring their own people, Iran, a very corrupt dictatorship who cencors their citizens, The Golan Heights enemies in line with Hamas, and Gaza with the Hamas dictators, because it looks to me like many of the Gaza citizens want Hamas out of there, but are extremely afraid of them and are helpless to do anything. Also, the Paletsinians always show their women and children in terrible fear of the Israeli rockets. The Israili woman and also in terrible fear of the Hamas rockets which were fired at Israel a long time ago and has been keeping it up to agitate Israel. Well it worked and what goes around, comes around. I feel bad for all of the citizens, but not Hamas and Al-quida and their network of haters in the Golan Heights.
One more note. Notice the timing. This isn't a coincidence...........................
Hamas and Palestinians PR wars went down 50,000 points today.
God is Greater, dead dude just murdered in tow by motorcycle,
How would this picture be so much more civilized?
What would end this conflict? The Palestinians to STOP sending rockets into Israel. Pretty simple. But, this doesn't be something they want to do, at least, permanently....they'll stop for awhile, just to regroup.
I think it's different this time. Israel: Don't back down. Hamas: You asked for it.......................
Yes, the US would never put up with a situation like this ... and it would hunt down the perpetrators for decades (consider Bin Laden). The US needs to let Israel defend itself, and take out the perpetrators of these incessant attacks against their civilians.
however, I hope Israel is not sucked into a ground war – it should follow the US example and use more drones to hunt down the enemy.
Why were the Nobel Peace prizes awarded on Israel-Palestine conflict? Who wanted an amicable solution to their problem? Has the US role produced any positive results as yet? So, the story "to be continued".
Nevertheless, the US has won a diplomatic success in Asia at long last! US found new friendly people on the opposite side of the globe – in Myanmar (credits should go to Facebook!).
Establishing a diplomatic mission in a country of a region that is historically antagonized coupled with wounds of wars will benefit both sides, although all other neighbors will find reasons to be alarmed, especially North Korea, China, and Russia.
The premises of US venture in this South East Asian nation that is proud of a UN Secretary General and a Nobel Peace prize winner appear to be still undefined other than exploring a new territory for trades. Among the potential commodities of profitable imports is the golden statue of the Great Budda that might help the US economy in reducing trade gaps and debts as well as with credit rating, besides a possibilty of installing a statue in The Mall.
Whatever the critics aim their opinions at may be downplayed, because a positive move should be looked at as a pragmatic interaction reflecting what the USA stands for – Human Rights, democracy, philantropy, and peace.
Everyday we get more of our rights and freedoms taken away from us. I really believe you're living in lala land.
Move Israel to the US.. that would solve everything...
No.............move Palestinians to IRAN.....THAT would solve everything!
I have been saying that for a long time. Let every man, woman and child in Israel to immigrate to the US. Then let them fight over what is left behind.
Send Nancy Grace over. She's the only one who can solve this. Gawd bless Nancy Grace.
The Israeli's are real brave when using US supplied weapons against old women and children. I pray they launch a ground attack so they can get their just deserts. BTW folks, how does it feel to know that the tax dollars stolen from you by your government are given to this pariah country to enable them to commit these slaughters? And not one of the cowards in Congress will object to it because you know who owns the media.
You don't understand anything at all. If the Israelis had wanted to inflict massive casualties among civilians they could, but they deliberately avoid that: you can bet that if Hamas had that ability they would use it against Israeli civilians without batting an eyelid. The 1 billion Muslims in the world want to crush the 6 million Jews in Israel because their Qu'ran teaches them that the Jews are cursed by God and must be kept wretched and humiliated. The very existence of Israel punctures this myth, which is why they want to annihilate it. Make an effort to educate yourself in the history of the conflict instead of mouthing mindless nonsense.
Shared Blood of Abraham is thicker than Declining Western Wiccan water - Jews and Arabs will soon see it, no worry.
Somewhere along the line in the past few years CNN has become Al Jezzera West
Indeed!! They allow Palestinians to rant on about " Israeli occupation" after the Israelis long moved out of Gaza, without any questioning by the interviewer.
The truth is that the Palestinians (or Philistines, or Jordanians, as others refer to them) will not rest until they have destroyed Israel.
Arabs live peaceably,vote and hold passports in Israel. Contrast that with the situation of a Jew in any Muslim country. (And how many Jews are there in Gaza or the West Bank (viz. Jordan)). Why doesn't CNN recognize the total asymmetry of the situation – a few peace-loving and hard-working Jews, surrounded by hundreds of millions of fanatics dedicated to murdering them because their ancestors wouldn't accept the Muslim prophet Muhammad – and provide that context to their broadcasts.
If you mean they support the terrorist, then I agree. Maybe you should start watching another news channel if that is the case.
IM NOT RELIGIOUS
So the amazing, glorious future of feminism has been realized in the political career of Hillary Clinton. And now, as it comes to a close, we see that she changed nothing, improved nothing, solved nothing, but achieved a great deal of self aggrandizing and provides more fodder for continued screeds regarding feminist gains and women's supposed superior abilities in diplomatic (or any) matters.
There can never be peace between arabs and Jews...arabs are from the Dark Ages and Jews are from the 21st century...it's like oil and water...arabs are busy dragging a dead Israeli through the streets of gaza yelling Allahu Akbar...much like they dragged the dead body of an American soldier yelling the same thing...arabs have to be wiped off the face of the earth...no more discussion...just annihilate them...they're not worth the air that they breathe...
I am afraid I am beginning to think the same thing.The entire world should unite against them. They are like an alien invasion.
Obviously English is not your first language If you don't know what "not too bright" means. Here's more, I'm sure you'll hear them often because you are "not to bright": "Not the brightest crayon in the box""Not the sharpest tool in the shed""The lights are on but nobody is home" oh and the one that best describes you "dumb as a rock". Maybe you should consider selling your body for more English lessons but they probably cost more than a dime.
THE BEER I DRINK IS 700 YEARS OLD
DID YOU KNOW THAT THE 500 YEAR OLD $PROFIT$ MOHAMID IS NOT THE NEWEST LATEST $PROFIT$ WHO IS 140 YEARS OLD
MAKE NO MISTAKE THOSE IN GAZA HAVE GOT IT GOOD REAL GOOD POVERTY STRICKEN BS
She's a fool and a tool of the obama administration.
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Both sides learning to share the land.
That's the durable outcome.
Never going to happen because the extremists are in control on both sides.
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Problem is Palestinians, well Hamas refuses to acknowledge that Israel exists as a country. As long as this is the case there will be no peace. This round of violence will end. Hamas will parade on the streets to celebrate their "victory" then a year later we will see this again. Then just rinse and repeat.
It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
Just checking back in after a couple of days...is the horrific slaughter of Isrealis from the rain of Hammas rockets still stalled out at 3?
DONT WORRY IN THE END THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE
YOUR FUTURE IS NO LONGER YOUR FUTURE ITS YOUR PAST
STOP HAVING BABIES THEY WILL ONLY SLOW YOU DOWN WHEN YOU NEED TO VACATE
Palestinians are dragging bodies threw the streets like animals, bomb them like animals.
GAZA IS A VERY VERY BAD PLACE TO BE SO PACK YOUR BAGS MY FRIENDS
Want to end this conflict? Sever all ties with Israel and call it a day. Let the Middle-Eastern parasites who kill and maim each-other over biblical fairy-tales keep it up until their are none left to discuss.
US continues to hold Israel back to keep US oil interest. Screw oil, unleash the dogs of war and end this
Shouldn't you also say koranic fairy tales? At least be equally dismissive.
What would bring an end to Gaza conflict? Haaaa The destruction of those firing 3000 missiles into Israel, thats what,
How does one negotiate with one hell bent on killing you?? you cant
I'd imagine it would be hard to negotiate with anyone whom is bombing someone else over supposed Biblical promises. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost all because party A thinks party B should fork over some land that the magical man in the sky has promised them.
Anyone who accuse the Palestinians of being terrorists must live in their shoes for a day to experience their oppression, you can hide the truth for years but eventually the world will know about Israel 's fascism
If you are good, there comes a time when you must accept you are wrong, and you are getting what you deserve.
So, you're saying it's time we returned the land to the Native Americans?
No..... I'm saying they got what they deserved. Just as you and I will. Just as the Israelis and Palestinians will.
Don't know if Fascism applies, but I can get your drift. On the one hand, the borders have been tightly closed, which makes the Gaza a difficult place to live. On the other hand, opening the borders allows terrorist parties to infiltrate Israel.
Not arguing for either, just pointing out the complexity of thongs.
Interesting how they have the resources to make a bunch of rockets...
Who is firing 3000 missile?? The American people would demand the absolute destruction of any nation firing any missile in our land. Unleash the dogs of war.,, there will never be peace with arabs
Really well if I lived a day in there shoes I certainly wouldn't strap bombs on my children to blow up Israel. Get a grip here they are terrorist!
Not all Palestinians are terrorists. All of the members Hamas are terrorists; they just happen to be Palestinians as well.
Return ALL occupied lands to Palestinians. Not 95%, or 97%!
It's not Palestinian Land!
Too bad the palestinians don't have any land. Sigh.
So, this land is Palestinian? What is a Palestinian? Someone from Palestine right? So, if these people come from Arabia or Lebanon or Syria or Jordan or Egypt and then claim to be Palestinian I guess that makes them so right?
If you say that this is Palestinian land because their forefathers conquered it then I'd say the Israelis forefathers conquered it too. Then the Babylonians and the Assyrians and the Greeks and the Romans conquered it. Then the Muslims conquered it. Then the Crusaders conquered it. Then the Byzantines conquered it. Then the Muslims conquered it again. Then the English conquered it. Then the Israelis bought it. Then the United Nations gave them autonomy. Then the Muslims tried to conquer it back. Then the Israelis kicked some serious Muslim butt. I guess the Israelis have conquered it back so it's theirs.
Deal with it.
i hate it when they said that american tax payers paid and are paying Israels's weapons and missiles, iron dome and all that, just killing innocent childrens, nobody that i know supports israels killing of childrens.
Do they support Hamas's killing of civilians???
Who launched the attack?That's what i thought.
Israel, not the US paid for iron dome. As for the rest of their weapons systems, they were either built by Rafale, like Iron Dome or bought fronm the US and paid for with hard Israeli currency.
Oddly enough, there was no Palistinian state before Israel.....
Do some research on the subject. You will be surprised.
Your right Milton there wasn't, the so called Palestinian people made it up.
There was no Isreal before the end of WWII. After the war the allies got together and decided how to restructure the map. They needed to give the Jewish people a land of their own after Hitler nearly wiped their race off the planet. They gave them Palestine. And now people wonder why the Palestinians want their land back?
‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.”
The Islamists worship the same god.......but that doesn't seem to matter.
Islamists worship the same God. Radical Islamists worship the gun, the knife and the bomb. They slink through the darkness murdering anyone who disagrees with them. That includes the more moderate Islamists. The only solution to radical Islam is to meet force with force.
I agree. If they loved their neighbor as themselves that might influence how they think about the Palestinians.
I think we agree in principle......my overarching point is that there are no innocent parties here
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children as much as they hate us", Golda Meir
Still true... Not using them as human shields or tying bombs to their bodies could help(!)
eradication of the Hamas
The arabs want an end to Israel........that is the only acceptable solution to them.
The ARABS don't want to get along they want it all.
Well, they "had it all" untill rhe western powers granted the existence of Israel after WW2
It will end when one side annihilates the other. Most lasting peace is not negotiated. It is won.
What would bring an end to Gaza conflict? Thermonuclear weapons. The crazies who run Hamas have no interest in ending the conflict. As long as there is conflict they can continue to hold a position of power. They care nothing about the people of Gaza.
There is no simple solution because the bad blood is too deep. People side with Gazans because if you look at the probability of a humanitarian crisis, it's nearly imminent. People who side with Israel tend to lump Gazan civilians with Hamas. It's not a football game where you choose a side to support.
There's a real lack of leadership and courage on both sides to really solve the problems they have, and before a 2 state solution gets implemented, they will need to solve them. Otherwise, it will just happen again and again. Civilians on both sides don't really care about the politics, but they're taking most of the casualties.
It's game theory at its worst. Both sides have more to gain politically with a medium level of violence, than with none at all, or total war. The problem is that civilians are a third party to this. Maybe Gazan and Israeli civilians need to have their "spring" moment and stop this BS.
Arm Israel and Palestine with nuclear weapons. Knowing very well that should they choose to use it means their own annihilation, both can sit down and negotiate peace on equal footing.
Two sensible goverments, would see the danger in both sides having nuclear weapons, and would de-escalate any armed conflicts between themselves, to prevent mutually assured destruction. Radical Islamic terrorist groups like Hamas believe that suicide while killing your enemy is _preferable_ to peace with them, so arming the Hamas with nuclear weaponry would GUARANTEE that the Middle East would become a radioactive wasteland.
No matter how you look at it, it's hamas. gaza needs to kill or drive them out.
You can't make peace firing 800 rockets at someone in a week then whine when they retaliate....
Noooo, not to 'kill' them, God loves them as well. However, anyone who goes up against Israel is stuck on STUPID... Fo real though!
The question is flawed because we all know that the violence will never end. As long as there is an Israeli state, there will be muslims that wish to destroy them. The indoctrination of extremist ideology into Muslim children is rampant among even the most moderate of Islamic "societies." Such ideology detests ANY religion other than Islam and the followers of such an ideology will stop at nothing to kill Isralis becuse in their eyes it is a "fasttrack to paradise." Many extremist branches have declared a Jihad on America, Israel, and all other freedom loving individuals. Jihad=Holy War. War=the destruction or subduance of a country and/or people. As long as such an ideology exists there will never be peace.
Why is it that Israel has not been able to have a peaceful relationship with any of its neighbors in the last 60 years? Is it because they have occupied and continue occupying lands that belong to Palestinians (Christian and Moslems alike)? You cannot push somebody off their lands and expect them not to fight back. Israel has been fighting everybody in the Middle East. There is something wrong with this picture. Nobody has yet explained why we have to get involved in any of this. We have enough problems here at home and should not send our tax money to Israel or any other countries to help them pursue their foolish religious ideas.
Hey Dave no one wanted that land till Isreal took it. Then they came out of the wood works...
Beside....Every country starts like that look at the US.
And the victor go the spoils. the losers just cry and whine.
Hey David, you should really learn your history better. It's been Israel.s land for over 3,000 years, two temples destroyed, King Solamon! David and Goalith (where your name comes from!) IDIOT!!!
I fail to see that.....where is the continual occupation of Jews in this region? They were dispersed ages ago, according to their own books, because they failed to heed their own god.
What would bring an end to Gaza conflict? The return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus, the Christ. 🙂 Amen and Amen!
I'm afraid you are absolutely right, because nothing else is going to do it.
You hit it right on the head. The return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will put an end to all of this.
You guys just keep waiting for a dead guy to fix things......
What would bring an end to the conflict.
Hamas stops shooting rockets and surrenders to Israiel.OR Isreaiel shoots and kills everylast person in gaza.Women,children,terrorists
I don't think the Israelis have the heart to do that. Perhaps you should volunteer to do it for them.
I'd be much more supportive of Israel if they would stop expanding their territory beyond the levels allowed in previous treaties. Gaza is essentially a prison colony where residents have no hope of a prosperous existence. Israel has flourished with generous supplies of U.S. foreign aid – including huge levels of military weaponry and direct military assistance. Palestinians are bridled by a dead-end culture, religious extremists, and a tradition of economic and political corruption.
Terrorism always thrives in societies where hope is lost and a technologically superior military force is controlling the political and economic environment. The establishment of Israel within Palestine should have happened (or not happened) without the support or influence of any foreign nations. If both sides had been forced to cooperate on a level playing field they would have reached some level of conclusion to what is now an endless conflict. Maybe that is still the only viable option. But Israel has nukes...
Truth.
You are too intelligent to be posting here.
Very enlightening. Thanks for posting
They haven't. Next.
Can't stop it. The religious brainwashing has been too thorough.
The violence would end if everyone in the world woke up tomorrow with complete amnesia.
I am sick tired of these people not being able to negotiate a peace agreement after 60 years of conflict. Let them kill each other until one of them is annihilated. Then the world will not have to put up with their bickering. By the way, both sides hate pork products.
I assume you don't live in America since we just went through a year and a half of screaming at one another with people threatening to secede–or worse.
Insane...
Yes, jackola, let the non-pork eating heathens kill each other! I heard the U.N. was hiring....
I hate war and violence, but honestly the only way to stop it is to wipe out the Palestinians. I would hate to see that ever happen but to answer the question, that is the only way. They are too violent, crazy and obsessed with Israel. No matter how much the world tries to help the Palestinians they keep choosing to back people who want to destroy Israel and use money given to them to buy bombs and missiles instead of caring and educating themselves.
I can't believe these words actually came out of a human being. WIpe out the Palestinians? I would understand if you said wipe out Hamas. You know there are Palestinians in the west bank. They're ran by a group called Fatah, and they actually get along with Israel. Maybe you should take your own life instead of wanting a whole nation to be wipe out. You're seriously sick in the head. May God help you.
Not to bright are you? I hope English is not your first language, please reread what I wrote. I answered the question that was asked at the top and I said I would hate for that to ever happen. They are too violent to ever stop obsessing about Israel and Hamas? they voted for them. So the meaning of what I wrote is they will NEVER stop. A hundred years from now they will still be fighting. Please rid the world of yourself and your stupidity to help out the human gene pool!
Agreed. It's sad for the children of these Palistinans that don't have a voice. The children know only what they have been taught. If they were taught love for one another then this mess would finally end. If not, they will be thier own demise.
Well, today, more children were taught that their fathers and brothers were killed by the Israelis who have treated them like dogs for generations.
How do you think that would make you feel?
Here's an idea: we enslaved African-Americans SO today all white people's homes will be given to African-Americans. That's the Biblical thing to do. Rejoice.
Yes, if the children of Republicans were taught love and not hate/racism, this country might progress.
Now you're generaliizing. I am a Moderate and did not vote for your liar in cheif.
Hate and ignorance breath violence, there will come a day when justice will prevail and everyone who sided with the occupation will have to live with themselves. The Palestinian may lose their lives , but the Israelis and their supporters are losing their soul.
That's the same solution-set Hitler prescribed for that pesky "Jew problem" Germany was experiencing... Ironic you would recommend such an outcome.
The Jews were constantly sending missiles and bombing Hitler and his army claiming they wanted to wipe them off the map, yeah, sounds exactly the same.
Mona, people with your frame of mind did all the dirty work at Auschwitz. May the good Lord have pity on you.
May the Lord take pity on poor readers, they seem to need a lot of help.
You would hate war and violence a great deal more if you were currently living in Israel. There is a great deal of difference between watching this unfold on the nightly news, safe and secure in your warm little home, instead of living this nightmare every single day without end. It's a bit tough to be sympathetic when bombs fall on the school your children are in.
Oh and english isn't my first language. I hope it's not yours either. Not *too bright! You should have been going to school instead of selling your body.
Obviously English is not your first language If you don't know what "not too bright" means. Here's more, I'm sure you'll hear them often because you are "not to bright": "Not the sharpest tool in the shed""The lights are on but nobody is home" oh and the one that best describes you "dumb as a rock". Maybe you should consider selling your body for more English lessons but they probably cost more than a dime.
I say LEVEL the Gaza Strip and make the new WORLD OF DISNEY PARK there,
It would be a nice vacation spot. HERE HERE to the new socailist Obama campain..
The only winners in this endless war are the arms dealers and weapons makers. The war between the two will never end but instead you will have short lived pauses in hostility.
Arms dealers and weapons makers the only winners. That's us. It's all we do. USA #1.
Jimmy Carter has offered viable and fair peace terms for decades. The Israelis even sign off on countless capitulations.
Then they carry on as usual. In a perpetual state of war since the 1930's Palestine will never be actualized.
The genocide is systematic, sustained, and ruthless.
One day soon the Jewish people will no longer get any mileage from the Holocaust industry with Hitler as their nemesis.
Instead, all moral authority will be surrendered to Netanyahu who will destroy Palestinian self determination.
This will never end. It never has. As long as there are Hamas, al-Qaeda and all of the Jihadists that want to blow people up over what they believe in, this will continue. Muslims are not the loving and peacful people they claim to be. They are rats. They drag people that don't think like they do, through the streets (abuse of a corps is just as low as you can go). Put it this way. Anyone that thinks like they do, lives like they do, breaths like they do, needs to have a bullet between their eyse! Period!
Do you live in a cave? Do you not know that there are peace-loving Muslim people living everywhere, including the U.S.?
That is like saying that al Americans are evil murderous terrorists because of the massacre of the Native Americans, slavery, Timothy McVey, Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, etc.
My heart breaks for all the children who have lost parents, siblings and their innocence.
I live right across the street from Pakistani's. I have other Muslim friends as well. I generalized Muslims but, meant the radicals that I had listed prior in my comment. Excuse me. I do know the difference and the Muslims that give Muslims a bad name should have a bullet through their head is what I meant.
Israel unconditionally withdraws from all of Gaza, forcibly uprooting settlements, and the Gazans elect Hamas as thanks. The Hamas charter then demands the destruction of Israel in its entirety and Hamas hides behind Gazan civilians while they indiscriminately lob missiles at Israeli civilians. Yet people somehow manage to see this as all the fault of Israel? Israel certainly makes mistakes, but the overwhelming problem is clearly Hamas. If you can't see that, then you are conveniently looking only at the facts that support your position and ignoring the facts that contradict your position. Do everyone a favor and work a little harder to analyze what's really going on.
Armageddon?
I wouldn't be shocked.
Waht would bring an end to the Gaza conflict? Turn every Muslim state into a big sheet of glass! Game over.
Very nice idea, Lisa! Maybe you should turn yourself into glass to set an example as to how it's done!
How are you any different than Lisa, Roy?
Well AJ, based off the one-liner Lisa made, it'd be pretty hard for me to tell you how much her and I differ. What I can tell you is that I don't believe in using WMDs against "every Muslim state" (or "any Muslim state" for that matter) to simply solve Israel's problems.
The truth is Iran has has found a Donkey in the Palistinian's and is using them as cannon fodder, they are sitting back on there laurels and really do not give a dame for them as they are Persians not Arabs.
What does Reza Aslan mean when he says that Israel should "acknowledge" Hamas when Hamas does not recognize Israel? I agree that civilian aid needs to find a way into Gaza somehow, but easing the blockade would also allow for a free flow of weapons from arms dealers and sympathetic countries, and would be part of a buildup that would eventually end the cease fire. If a cease fire will actually ever happen, both sides need to acknowledge each other; and we all know how unlikely that is to happen.
If Israel doesn't recognize Hamas, why do they negotiate with them? Why did they release 1000 of their prisoners?????? Why are they giving these animals attention?????
Like them or not they control Gaza. No matter how justified or wrong Israel is in airstrikes, every bomb they drop reaffirms Hamas's control. You can look to history for that; whenever a country is being bombed, the resolve of the people is almost always strengthened until one side wins. It also can't be forgotten that Israel originally supported Hamas when it was founded because they saw it as a chance to divide the PLO. Now, the ones they sought to weaken (PLO/Fatah) have denounced terrorism and the hardliners (Hamas and Islamic Jihad) who don't want negotiations have power. It's more complex then that, but much more sad too. I don't know what the future will be.
If Hamas will stop sending rockets into Israel, Israel will stop retaliating. Simple. The only thing that will bring lasting Peace to Jerusalem and Israel is Jesus' return.
Amen!
Why does not Israel annex all the occupied teritories? That is what Israel wants. Of course they want the land but they do not want the humans that go with it. Instead they are pusuing a policy of forcing the attrition of the Palistinian population. A single state with the inclusion of the Palistinians would sieze to be Jewish within two dacades. Our tacit and material support of this insults our ideals of justice, law and human rights. Our unconditional support of Israel will leave a huge black spot on our otherwise compassionate history.
Mac, you are basically implying that Israel is out for genocide. That is simply not true. While I agree that the Netanyahu administration has been particularly aggressive in building new settlements in areas they have no business to do so, and making it harder for a Palestinian state to ever exist in parallel with Israel, you simply take it too far. The idea that the Jewish state could not exist without constant violence and suppression is also not true. They are fighting against a group that does not want peace and wants to eradicate Israel. Lets not kid ourselves regarding the fact Hamas is aggressive every chance they get. They have not denounced terrorism like Fatah did, and don't seem to show any intentions of changing tone.
The problem is the people of Gaza. They voted for Hamas. Hamas is not interested in governing, only to destroy Israel. So the people of Gaza has put themselves in the crosshairs of the IDF. If they have no national desire to better themselves, only desire the destruction of Israel, they have no one else to blame. Who said that "the people always get the goverment they deserve". Cannot be more true. If the Palestinians wanted to get their act together, they would have done so 40 years ago. Their fellow Arab nations just use them to get the attention of their own selves.
Israel created HAMAS! And Israel negotiates with those animals!
Hamas has no plans, tanks, ships or helicopters and the Zionists are afraid. Funny... They just cry to that they can continue stealing land.
It is called being responsible for their people and soldiers. Yes it is possible and very capable to invade gaza but they dont want to loose even one of their soldiers to an unfortunate accident. Get real.
How else do you deal with animals? Israel shown tremendous restraint here. Any other other country, US, UK, Russia, China would have sent Gaza back to stone age (so about 30 years.) Israel has shown countless times their willingness to listen and compromise, but all these animals understand is force. For anyone criticizing them, I am yet to hear a single viable alternative offered as to how they can protect their citizens.
It is not meant for a ceasefire. Hurry up and start WW3 already. Full-out world war that is how things are supposed to happen.
duder, I'm in total agreement......arm both sides and let them slaughter each other.
HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED YET
What would end this violence? ATHEISM. Only religious wingnuts feel the need to lob missiles at each other in the name of some sort of half religious, half nationalistic ideology.
I respectfully suggest that the missiles launched by Israel were done so after endless rockets were propelled into their land. For one minute, please try to imagine what would happen if extremists (or whomever) lobbed rockets into our border cities, much less into New York City. I do not believe that all the players are "religious nuts".
Something similar happened in the U.S. during the late 1800's when "Manifest Destiny" drove settlers across the plains of Texas and Oklahoma to steal land from the Comanche and other tribes of the area. The Comanche fought a terror war against a technologically superior enemy – essentially winning the battles but losing the war of attrition. Americans (and Texas Rangers) systemically killed the buffalo and repeatedly attacked the encampments where the women and children gathered. Every treaty was broken by both sides and the weaker Comanche ultimately disappeared from existence. The Comanche had religious and cultural claim to the land – like the people of both Palestine and Israel use to justify their position. Still, it was the ability to conduct war with superior technology and logistics that settled the disagreement. The losing side was (and is) called a terror organization. You resort to terrorism when you have no other options.
Very well said, Joyce.
Why in the world is CNN taking the side of and pity for the terrorists in Gaza? All reporting from CNN has taken place in Gaza. Last night, Mr Morgan practically berated President Peres. Gaza has been sending missiles over to Israel forever. Of course Israel must fight back to stop Gaza from doing this. They need to do whatever necessary to stop this once and for all. Even if it must be a ground war! It is so obvious and CNN should be ashamed for being so extremely biases!
CNN is not alone in taking the side of hamas. They fire hundreds of rockets into Israel and few of the so called reporters say nothing but when Israel retaliates they are berated for escalating the violence.
maybe the new stations take sides with hamas because they have an agenda? I'm not yet sure if it's an economical agenda that has to do with the mostly arab contributors and advertisers in these news stations (look at the adds on the side of the articles...), or if some of the news stations actually have a political agenda similar to the hamas agenda about the existence of israel.