Official: Changes to Benghazi talking points made by intel community
By Pam Benson
The intelligence community - not the White House, State Department or Justice Department - was responsible for the substantive changes made to the talking points distributed for government officials who spoke publicly about the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, the spokesman for the director of national intelligence said Monday.
The unclassified talking points on Libya, developed several days after the the deadly attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, were not substantively changed by any agency outside of the intelligence community, according to the spokesman, Shawn Turner.
Republican criticism of the talking points intensified last Friday following a closed door hearing with former CIA Director David Petraeus.
Rep. Peter King, R-New York, told reporters after the hearing that the original talking parts drafted by the CIA had been changed and it was unclear who was responsible.
"The original talking points were much more specific about al Qaeda involvement and yet final ones just said indications of extremists," King said.
The September 11 attack resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
The unclassified talking points were first developed by the CIA at the request of the House Intelligence Committee, whose members wanted to know what they could say publicly about the Benghazi attack.
Benghazi talking points omitted link to al Qaeda
The initial version included information linking individuals involved in the attack to al Qaeda, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the drafting of the talking points. But when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, there was a decision to change "al Qaeda" to "extremists." The official said the change was made for legitimate intelligence and legal reasons, not for political purposes.
"First, the information about individuals linked to al Qaeda was derived from classified sources," the official said. "Second, when links were so tenuous - as they still are - it makes sense to be cautious before pointing fingers so you don't set off a chain of circular and self-reinforcing assumptions. Third, it is important to be careful not to prejudice a criminal investigation in its early stages."
Some Republican members of Congress suggested the change came from within the Obama administration - from the White House, the Justice Department, or another government agency.
Turner, the spokesman for National Intelligence Director James Clapper, said that was not the case.
"The intelligence community made substantive, analytical changes before the talking points were sent to government agency partners for their feedback," Turner said, referring to the White House, Justice Department, State Department, Pentagon and FBI. "There were no substantive changes made to the talking points after they left the intelligence community," he said.
The House Intelligence Committee was not satisfied with Turner's statement.
"The statement released this evening by the DNI's spokesman regarding how the Intelligence Community's talking points were changed gives a new explanation that differs significantly from information provided in testimony to the Committee last week," said committee spokeswoman Susan Phalen. "Chairman Rogers looks forward to discussing this new explanation with Director Clapper as soon as possible to understand how the DNI reached this conclusion and why leaders of the Intelligence Community testified late last week that they were unaware of who changed the talking points."
The White House on Friday said it made only one change, substituting the word "mission" for "consulate."
The FBI requested a change in language which originally stated the U.S. "knew" Islamic extremists participated in the attack. According to a U.S. intelligence official the wording was changed to "there are indications" Islamic extremists participated.
Obama administration continues explanations on Benghazi decision-making
The drumbeat of criticism began early on with Republicans criticizing the Obama administration for publicly saying the attack grew out of a spontaneous protest against an anti Muslim video on the web even though the Republicans claim the administration knew it was a planned terrorist attack.
The harshest criticism has focused on Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who used the talking points as the basis for comments she made on Sunday talk shows five days after the attack. During her appearances, Rice said a small number of people came to the mission in reaction to demonstrations occurring in Cairo over the anti-Muslim film, but the Benghazi protest was hijacked by armed extremists. She never mentioned terrorists.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, said this isn't about parsing words. "There was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. That's my concern," Rogers said last Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Former CIA Director Petraeus told lawmakers last Friday there were multiple streams of intelligence, some that indicated Ansar al Sharia was behind the attack, according to an official with knowledge of the situation. But other intelligence indicated the violence at the Benghazi mission was inspired by protests in Egypt over the anti Muslim video.
Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, told CNN on Monday that Petraeus explained why the talking points were changed.
"Gen. Petraeus made it clear that that change was made to protect classified sources of information, not to spin it, not to politicize it and it wasn't done at the direction of the white house. That really ought to be the end of it, but it isn't. So we have to continue to go around this merry go round, but at a certain point when all the facts point in a certain direction, we're going to have to accept them as they are and move on," Schiff said.
CNN's Dana Bash contributed to this report.
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Some one needs to tell Obamas mouth piece that when your Government lies and misleads it's citizens that is a big deal.
This news agency has down played this. Makes me wonder if they know what real news is or do they even care that our government lies to us!
So people will believe anything they read if it allows them to keep living in their bubble.
Remember when Obama claimed he called it a terrorist attack the day after in the second debate?
Now, a month later, we're back to "We didn't know, we thought it was a demonstration" even though we know the State Department and the CIA had access to a live video of the ambassador getting dragged out of the consolate... a demonstration that ran till 4:00 in the morning. ...with mortars and rockets,
And so now we are supposed to believe that these same people read what the CIA put into the report, but they "disagreed" and removed all references to what happened, and finalized a report that claimed this was a demonstration, and Susan Rice read it.. and..
You see? People will believe anything they read if it allows them to keep living in their bubble.
And let's go to the tape: Susan Rice did not sound the least bit in doubt when she LIED REPEATEDLY as to her ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THAT A DEMONSTRATION that was never photographed, videotaped or noted by anybody who was there was to blame.
Wake up. The media will say anything to give credence to every flimsy excuse the president throws in front of these frauds. "Mr. President, I've never seen you lose".
Just out of curiosity, what is the chattering conspiracy theorist reason why the CIA would change up the talking points? What possible reason, other than the one stated by General Petraeus could there be? What possible benefit could there be to "cover up" for the week-long period the initial reports and subsequent estimate?
Or could it be that you will say anything, yes anything, to try to reduce the esteem of the public in the present administration?
I must say it pleases me even more that the President won the election as I see the loathsome behavior of its enemies.
In my case, I just read the statements, assumed they meant what they said, and I am for one quite satisfied with the explanation. Your mile may vary, but if you are going to call foul, why not cite to the harm? Or isn't there one, and you are just yapping as mindlessly as are the dull three Senators whose careers will be forever tarnished as a result?
Just because they decided not to use the words "Al Qaeda" does not mean that it wasn't a terror attack nor does it change the fact that the President called it an "act or terror" all the same. Susan Rice did give the disclaimer that this was an ongoing investigation and that what she gave was their best assessment based on the information they had at the time. I do not think that they were obligated to tell anyone that they watched the attack in real time either. A lot of people are whining about this incident when we have had thousands of attacks on Americans during the Bush Administration that kind of went overlooked by both the media and right-wing politicians.
JOHN McCAIN IS STILL HARBORING A SEVERE DEBILITATING BITTERNESS FOR HIS 2008 ELECTION LOST TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
It is pathetic and sad that millions can easily see the bitterness John McCain harbors against President Obama. The 'cranky old McCain' despises the 'smart, young, good looking Obama' because Obama beat him in the 2008 Presidential election.
Get over it John, your bitterness is turning your soul into something very dark & wicked. Evil enough for you to make an attempt at destroying an innocent woman's character just so you can get back at President Obama. Sad, sad, sad!
What is dark and wicked are blind Obama loyalists that always try to turn the criticism about his actions into a personal attack on the critic.
Only a fool would believe that any intelligence community would watch a video, write a report, then change it completely to remove all references to what no one disputes actually happened.
Of course only a fool would vote for Obama after he lied for 3 weeks about this scandal, or after four years of absolutely disastrous economic policy that could be summed up as "don't blame me, I only got here four years ago". Obviously America is not lacking for such fools.
The facts are the white house made no sunstantial change and the intel community did as a matter or policy. Get over it, join the successionist or just continue with your membership with the Klan or the Nazi party. You are the one who has lost objectivity
Cut & Paste from Al Jazeera:
Libya says US consulate attack 'pre-planned'
President Magarief, in an exclusive interview with Al Jazeera, says he believes al-Qaeda is responsible.
Yasmine Ryan Last Modified: 15 Sep 2012 01:33
When the CIA 'classifies' something, that does not matter to those not under the CIA's jurisdiction. What is it that you do not understand about this? How is the CIA going to keep the President of Libya from saying something that the CIA considered 'classified'? Explain that one to us.
Why would the CIA even tell the president of libya? Whoever he is.
The President of Libya corrected Obama's all-to-obvious (at least those other than his worshipers) lie. There was no need to classify the information. There was no need to invent a story about a mob. There was no need to continue the mob fairytale for WEEKS after the Libyan President called him on his lie. Unless, perhaps, you're in a close election, you just said "al Qaeda is on the path to defeat" in your 9/6 acceptance speech, and you have no shame.
KBNJ: once again, I think you are giving too much power to the President of Libya. Contrary to your belief, our President does not and never will get his talking points from the President of Libya. Our POTUS gets his tallking points on matters of national security (of which this was) from the CIA. Where do you get this stuff?
Generally, things are classified to keep them secret. When the whole world, except maybe a gaggle of Obama adorers, already know the truth, there's not much point in classifying it. In fact, over-classifying information is WORSE than "under-classifying" it. We're supposed to be an open Government. "We the People..", remember? The SOLE reason we classify information is for National Security. When the whole world know something, it's not classified. Period.
Well, if you are concerned about what information is classified and what is not, then you will have to take that up with the CIA as they make these decisions, not I.
In addition, if you read an earlier post from me, I stated that most people were aware from the start that this was a terrorist attack and did not have much to do with the video. Did we know it? No. Did the President of Libya know it? No. This is why he said, and I quote 'I believe' instead of 'I know'.
Regardless, if the CIA says something is classified, then this applies to everyone under their jurisdiction which includes the POTUS and our Ambassador to the UN but does not include the President of Libya. If Obama or Rice had leaked classified information, then they would be to blame. They didn't and therefore they aren't to blame. Not that facts will stop you and your ilk.
@KBNJ....................You need to lay off the coffee man! You are taking conspiracies to a all new level. Let the investigation complete its course. We'll see what happened and why. You're going to have a stroke if you keep this up.
By the way, "unequivocally stated Al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks" (from a previous claim from you), and "says he believes al-Qaeda is responsible" do not equate. Do you have a reading comprehension problem or something?
Four days after the attack he BELIEVES it was pre planned and an act by a particular terrorist group. Did he also happen to mention why the help we sent was detained by the Libyans at the airport for hours instead of being let go to help? You people are focusing on one particular aspect of the situation that has absolutely no relevance on the events that occurred. Get your priorities straight and focus on real questions and not nonsense that helps you justify your hate.
So Mr. America believes Al jazeera. Amazing.
Those are people we call fake Americans.
Yeah, I also found it quite ironic that he would quote Al Jazeera, given that they are a Muslim-run news source. Not that I mind, as I read Al Jazeera often and find them very professional.
Per one of your other statements that suggest a reason for a so called lie was because of the upcoming election. Since the explanation changed to include that it was in fact a pre planned terrorist attack, your claim to the reason for the so called lie has no merit. We also see that no matter what it was initially called and later changed too, had no effect what so ever on the election, since he did in fact win a second term. Logic is your friend.
homie lied and Americans died, put him in a gas chamber
So long as you include GW and Darth Cheney for the lies that got us into the Iraq war.
"Homies" lie didn't kill anybody. They died before the press release, not after.
So you agree!
Homie lied.
Homie being Obama .. Obama Lied to the American People. WHY?????? To win the Election. Obama would do ANYTHING to win. And if you don't think that him and his administration LYING, after the fact that nothing could have been done to help the deceased and injured(as you pointed out "Home Lied, but they were already dead, nothing he could do" or something like that. Then the ONLY reason for him and the administration for not telling THE AMERICAN PEOPLE the truth was ????? oh yeah... to win the Election.
If there are still people out there that can't see that reasoning you never will...until it is too late, and then you might not even then.
p.s. It was never about Susan Rice being a young, black female... it was about someone with authority out and out LYING to us ... that would be you too!
And the troll feeds. Nom nom.
To whom are you refering to when you state "homie lied"?
Republicans sure can pivot quickly, I will give them that. Just a couple of weeks before the Benghazi incident, they were trying to get Obama impeached for leaking classified information. Now, they are trying to get him impeached for not leaking classified information. Nobody knows the meaning of the word 'hypocrite' as thoroughly as a Republican does.
LOL: The information was SO CLASSIFIED the President of Libya publicly corrected Susan Rice the next day and unequivocally stated Al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks. Guess someone should have clued him in on the secret, huh? Didn't stop Obama from playing out the "mob" fairytale for a few more weeks, though.
Hmmm. So you think that the CIA controls the President of Libya?
KBNJ Your guy lost. Stop being bitter.
One of the reasons Obama won is the Press and his adoring fans believe everything he says without challenge. In truth, I don't think he's that bad a President and his foreign policy is FAR FAR FAR better than Bush's, whom I tried to vote out of office in round 2. BUT, and this is a HUGE BUTT, when a man as powerful as the President is given carte blanche to do and say what he pleases and the "Press" lovingly covers his butt, we've ALL got a problem regardless of how much you love him.
I can give you several reasons Obama won.
Saved the auto industry
Saved the financial industry
Kept country out of a depression
Killed Osama Bin Laden
Ended the Iraq war.
Ending the Afghanistan war (He should end it sooner)
32 months of job growth
Healthcare reform
Respect for women (lilly Ledbetter act)
Nuke deal with Russia to cut nukes
I'm tired of typing. I'll give you more reasons later.
"the President is given carte blanche to do and say what he pleases".
OMG! Are you delusional? Seriously, you can't be serious.
I think it is more:
Your guy won...Stop being so Bitter.
I have never seen/heard so many sore winners!
You should be happy happy happy!!
But everyone I speak to is mad.
WHY???
The information was UNclassified information, not classified. Can't you read, Skarphace? Patraeus specifically called it Unclassified info, and said someone else changed it, but he didn't know who, after he sent it along. Then, in the Senate hearings last week, the Director of National Intelligence said he did not know who changed it, either. Now, today, the spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence says the Director of National Intelligence was the one who changed them. Do you see how none of this adds up, or are you too wedded to your own ideals to see inconsistencies when they stare you in the face?
'Someone', meaning somebody in the CIA, classified it. They have said so. This was not Obama or Rice's call. To go against this would be to leak information, something that Obama was criticised for several times, even though there was no proof of such. Therefore, these allegations against Rice and Obama are baseless.
he didn't say Clapper changed it. He said somebody within the intel community did. Clapper said he would find out who changed it and he obviously did that is why his spokesman reported it yesterday. NOBOY, not Clapper, not the CIA, not the FBI and NOT Petraeus thought it was a big deal to change it from terrorist to extremist and they are all shocked at the stupid "controversy". And by the way, do you people really think that it was coincidence that the attacks occurred in the middle of protests throughput the region on the exact day and exact time? isn't it more likely, or certainly more logical to initially assume so, that it was an opportunistic attack that capitalized on the chaos of the protests throughout the region? and more importantly: is anybody out there with half a brain really thinks the distinction of whether it was terrorist or a mob would make a scintilla of a difference in the election when the overwhelming majority of the people indicated the number one reason is the economy and that they felt the president related to their problems? in fact, foreign policy was like near the bottom of reasons. This is just beyond weird. REPUBLICANS: DO YOUR JOB! help the country's economy and stop wasting time with this silly stuff.
People with rational minds always wonder why the Republicans keep sniffing after conspiracies where there are none instead of just doing real work. Well, after reading many of these posts I realize that there are a lot of dopes out there who WANT to believe in these silly conspiracy theories. They are the Republican base.
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Skarphace – I actually agree with this. I'm not glad that obama won, as I feel he is not what is best for our country at this moment, but I am glad the "republican party" lost because they offered up basically the same person in 2008 as well as 2012 – both of them were "RINOs" who then took a conservative VP pick.
I would LOVE to see a viable 3rd party, someone who espouses fiscal conservatism while NOT being concerned about social issues.
Well, then we agree on something. See, not all of us who are Democrats are anti-America. I would have probably voted for Ron Paul if the Republicans had nominated him (probably, being based on the Presidential debates between Obama and Paul which I would have absolutely loved to see), and I would have definitely voted for Huntsman over Obama (I am actually hoping that Huntsman runs as a Democrat in 2016 because the Republicans will never nominate him).
Regardless, I voted for Obama because although I don't think he is the best for our country, I think that Romney would have been the worse of the two, by far. At least with Obama, you know where he stands. With Romney, not so much.
Libacryt.
I think many in the republican party would like to see a candidate just as you describe, the problem is the pact the repubs have made with the tea party devils and radical right wing evangelicals. Sadly, it's causing many moderate repubs to resign or be ousted. I think the repubs know that they've got to do what you describe – which is why I think the next election we'll see the Tea PArty split off into their own party. It's the only hope.
Excellent point! I think America is growing tired of the foolishness. Where is the "like" button?
I'm a republican and it doesn't take much to see that the Obama administration and its minions�rice, axelrod, carney, gibbs, etc�just did a lot of lying to cover up the facts. It is people such as yourself who behave like cattle and accept everything that's said to them. I never haver nor will I ever accept what a politician has to say without examining the facts. The fact that our lying thug President wants us to accept that someone in the "intel community" took it upon himself or herself to change a memo of this importance is not something anyone with more than two cell brains would believe. It's analogous to your kid telling you "the dog ate my homework"�grow up and look at facts without needing someone to tell you what you're looking at�.
I have 2 questions for this administration......why was the ambassador in Benghazi on 9/11 when they knew about all of the threats and did someone order back-up military to stand down the night of the attack. If so, who gave the order and why. This is not a political thing. It is a matter of National Security.
So you think it would be a good idea if every year on 9/11 the US pulled all of it's diplomats from every middle eastern and african country? You don't think that would be seen as a sign of weakness? Thank goodness you are not responsible for these decisions.
From what I have read, the Pentagon did not want to put troops into the situation until they understood what the situation was. A general said he was going to mount a rescue mission no matter what the Pentagon said. The Pentagon ordered his second in command to relieve the general. I forget the general's name.
You don't voluntarily put your troops into an unknown situation, not knowing if they can actually accomplish the mission and come out alive.
From what I understand, you're an incredible imbecile farting absurd nonsense about that which you know entirely not poop. But does total ignorance stop you from farting foolish FUD? OF COURSE not. Complete and utter ignorance would only give not stupid people pause.
Why don't we all stay home and pull the covers over our head until 9/11 passes.
What about 12/21 then? *shivers*
I forgot about that! If the world doesn't end, can we please stop with that nonsense! If it does end, forget I said this.
"The intelligence community – not the White House, State Department or Justice Department – was responsible for the substantive changes made to the talking points"
Umm...Who runs the show? The intelligence community can recommend anything they want, but ultimately it's the President's, or Congress's call, NOT the CIA's. Congress says they didn't know. The leaves one man, and ONLY one man responsible: President Obama. And Obama not only sent Rice out with talking points that had me scratching my head, but kept the "mob" story alive for WEEKS, even after the President of Libya firmly corrected Rice the very next day.
partisan crap.
In other words, it does not conform to Conservative Propaganda.
Very, very wrong. It is the job of the CIA to determine what information is classified and what is not. Not even the President can override the CIA. The CIA is not part of the White House and therefore is not under their jurisdiction. You are quite missinformed.
You do realize that no one man runs the country right? So if we go by your statement, we should have divulged information that would have put our CIA informants or plants in danger? You can't have it both ways. You can either have all the facts and put more people in danger, or you can come to terms with the fact that some information needs to be held to protect our people.
As noted, Congress and the President run the country. Congress apparently wasn't in the loop. That's a problem on it's own. The CIA makes recommendations. The President/Congress have a responsibility to NOT over-classify information. If they wanted to redact "Al-Qaeda" for security reasons, fine. But maybe they should have clued the President of Libya in on the little ploy, because he specifically stated the day after Rices tour that it was Al-Qaeda, and THAT news traveled around the world, making us look a bit silly. AND, after that, Obama makes NO corrections to the story for WEEKS?!?! Come, on folks, use your BRAINS!
Didn't you get my memo. It's time for Republicans to stop being the party of stupid.
You are complaining about a press release! 4 Americans dead, small details. All that matters to you is what was said in a press release. sad.
That was just Jindal's way of positioning himself for 2016. Christie and Rubio have been making similar moves, away from Romney and towards the center. However, Republicans will never nominate a minority, so that puts Jindal and Rubio out of the question. It will probably come down to either Christie, as the moderate, and Ryan, as the Tea favorite.
The POUS follow intel ! Just like Bush for the WMD ! And now you are concerned. There are four American dead. Get a grap. I was in the military 30 years....you follow intel. Now maybe the POUS should have asked more questions. But it was eaarly in the intel collection process.
You follow intel. You know what it will rain tomorrow...blame the POUS !
In the past, the GOP has gotten away with this nonsense. (By nonsense, I am referring to your comments, in case you were not clear.) It seems like maybe a time is now beginning where they no longer will. Hopefully, that is the case.
Attention Conservatives: The Benghazi yarn needs some work. It is not a lie with traction, like Death Panels or Liberal Media.
Let's put something about Kenya into it. How about this?
"Guns were smuggled by Fast & Furious through Mexico to Communist Venezuela and then transported by Kenyan Navy Vessels to Benghazi, where the ambassador was selling them to Islamic terrorists. The income from the weapons sales went to finance Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinics.
"It was Obama himself who had the compound burned in an effort to destroy the evidence, which is why Obama refuses to close Guantanamo."
Go with that. I think you'll see that is has a lot more traction.
You guys can’t govern, but your Propaganda is very good, a little crude maybe.
Steve Colbert would admire your sarcasm...but please, as a former Marine with an intell background residing in Arkansas, I ask you to include Olly North and the Mena Airport. Credit ,please.
Sounds exactly like Republican hype.....You should have offered to sell it to them before putting it out on the web!
Brilliant!
So it turns out that all the criticism of Rice and all the allegations that Obama lied and that he was somehow responsible for the deaths in Benghazi all comes down to a misunderstanding of the word 'classified'. Color me surprised.
Therefore, I will clear it up for you Republicans. If the CIA considers something 'classified' then you cannot speak about it in public, whether you are the UN Embassador or the President. Is that clear enough for you?
The bottom line is that all Congressmen who criticised Rice and who called Obama a liar owe us all an apology. However, if that happened it WOULD surprise me.
The last Conservative who took responsibility for his actions was Robert E Lee
I don't think you could truthfully classify Robert E. Lee as a conservative. After all, HE freed his slaves... unlike certain generals on the Union side.
Isn't it John McCain's witch hunt?
SHHHHH. Don't talk too loud. You may wake john. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I support America's CIA and FBI and the rest of our Intelligence organizations. They are professionals, and certainly know a whole lot more about intelligence than anyone on here.
Our President, our Congressmen, our Intelligence Community – these are smart people, almost all of them smarter than us at what they do.
It is fun to come on here and toss around jokes and criticisms, but don't ever lose sight of the fact that we entrust leaders and experts to protect us. We are not out there ourselves.
If the intelligence experts felt they would have a better chance catching the bad guys by not announcing their plans to the whole world, I respect their judgement.
All the other noise on here is simply noise ... fun ... but worthless. (oh by the way, every Embassy worker in the world knows they are in danger 365 – 31 died under Bush, and every worker in the world knows the risk).
First off, they are not "gods" – they are humans. As such, they are fallible, and prone to corruption. They make mistakes. They lie. They cheat. They steal.
The people we "elect" are there to work for us, NOT the other way around. They are, in fact, PUBLIC SERVANTS. The Founding Fathers did NOT intend for a "politician" to be a career, but rather a break in one's "real" life whereby he would go & serve the people, then come back to his "real life."
Propping these guys up on pedastools & saying things like "they are smarter than us" is how dictators are born, and how monarchies start. They are NO better than us, and the sooner some of you remember that, the better off we all will be!
I think what he was saying is that they are far better at their jobs than we would be. Otherwise, we would have their jobs. Regardless, if the CIA says something is classified, then it is classified. I don't know how you can criticise Rice or Obama for not leaking classified information.
Lib – you make a valid point, and no, these are not 'gods'.
I trust our intelligence community and our Republican Generals were honest in their intention to save American lives, and they thought announcing their 'game plan' in advance to the entire world would not help catch the bad guys.
These are Democrats, Republicans, non-political types, and there just ain't no conspiracy going on here ...
speak for yourself – I'm pretty well convinced I could do the jobs of most modern politicians better than them, regardless of party. Today's "politicians" in the US Gov are an affront and embarrassment to the legacy of the Founding Fathers.
U know good and well there r no monarchies or dictatorships happening in America. Just deal with the fact that ur grand ol party got it wrong this time. People have been beating this dead horse (bengahzi) with a stick to see if it will move. Guess what it's not going any where.
People don't trust their government because it's part of our foundation. We were born out of a revolution. If our country was going to b a monarchy or a dictatorship it would have started that way. Our country started free and will remain so.
Sly – you "trust" the intelligence community, eh? So did you "trust" them during the ramp up to Iraq (you know, when they said that Iraq had WMDs?). Or what about regarding 9/11? Or what about the waterboarding?
Sorry, you can't "pick & choose" when you trust, and do not trust them, based off of who is in office. You either "trust" them or you do not. Otherwise, you're just playing political games, which is laughable.
Libacryte: you could do a better job than our CIA operatives? Then go for it. Arguing on a blog will get you nowhere.
Liba – I 'trust' that our intelligence community is telling us what they want us to know in order to help accomplish their objective – in this case to catch the bad guys. (I dont think they were trying to get somebody elected).
That said, I don't always believe that what they tell us is the truth. I think they fed us the WMD story in order to accomplish their goal – which would appear to be to topple Saddam.
I don't think they are telling the truth about 9/11 – too fishy. Airplane engines don't bounce 3 miles on the dirt. But that was their way of not having to tell American's that we shot that airplane out of the sky, which would have made people mad.
a grain of truth here...what the professionals have said is "we didn't trust the politicians to stay off camera and let us work"...they were right.
The GOP keeps going round and round in circles over this and they are getting nowhere and wasting tax payer money. Come on GOP, you can't score as many political points as you thought off these 4 dead Americans so why don't you just give it a rest and pass a freaking budget!
"wasting taxpayer money" hahahahahahaha... ummmm, pot... it's the kettle... and ummmm... you're black (now watch some leftist nincompoop try to make that a racial statement) hahahahaha
Anybody who feels it necessary to say 'I am not a racist' probably is.
Skarphace – I didn't say that. I said (perhaps you should try to actually comprehend it this time) that someone will try to turn the old "pot calling the kettle black" saying into a racist comment. You know, like how you folks try to make it seem like if a classroom has a "Secret Santa" that somehow that means that it's offensive to those who don't believe in or celebrate Christmas? Political correctness, in addition to allowing our Gov to spend money it doesn't have, will be the death of this once great nation.
Let me give you other examples. 'No Spin Zone', 'Fair and Balanced'. If you feel the need to defend yourself before anybody even attacks you then you are feeling guilty of something. This was my point.
Skarphace – what about "tingly legs" example? Cut the crap. And personally, I don't care if you, or any of your bretheren call me stupid names like "racist" or whatever – that's all you guys can do – you're like the boy who cried wolf regarding using the word "racist" – you've rendered it meaningless, so much so that most ppl just roll their eyes when they hear that word thrown about. Good job!!
Just remember who brought up the 'race card'. Hint: it was not me.
They will NEVER get over the fact they lost the Presidency. Since the Supreme Court can't save them (and after this election, they will not have a rightie tightie court for decades. YIPPEE, YEHHAAAA, IN YO' FACE!!!!!) they are going to try and fall back to the old impeachment line of attack.
Gimme' a break... the man ultimately responsible fell on his sword (and he was a republican sweetheart, one who couldn't keep his willy in his pants, but a republican sweetheart nonetheless).
Listen, the sooner we get our men/women home, the better off we'll be. This won't happen anymore... at least not on FOREIGN SOIL. You want jobs? The men and women that come home can help get our infrastructure rebuilt and back up to standards. The Republicans want this to escalate, so we can enter into one more useless, pointless war... and for what? One more playing chip in the game. Congratulations <-please note sarcasm. The Intel Community itself stated that they were the ones that made the changes. The Republicans are STILL arguing that the administration made the changes... REPUBLICANS: Maybe you should consider in different terms... WHY would you want your enemy to know what you're thinking/planning/considering? WHY would you want them to know what you know? YOU DON'T!! It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. And to the Republicans who are still CRYING over the election, grab a kleenex, wipe your snotty nose, and move on. Don't say "Oh! Wait until the next mid-terms!" You barely held on to the seats you have, AND Democrats did win back a couple of seats in the Senate. Americans are done with YOU... that's why you lost the general election; and unless you can prove that, as a party, you can come to the table with ideas that will benefit ALL Americans, you WILL NOT take back the White House or the Senate. GET TO WORKING!!
You should change your name to "The Truth"
I live in Europe and am visiting this site.
Are you all for real or have some of you lost your ability to think clearly.
Why are you covering up for your President and his administration , of course there should be an investigation.
The Brits and the Red Cross pulled out of Benghazi a few weeks before the attack , why didn't you.??
Somebody was not doing their job , 4 people are dead and who is responsible for that.
factual answer : those who carried out the attack.
Your administration is responsible for the safety and security of employees serving abroad , this would be the State Department , hence the Brits were asked to leave.
Belle , your definition of "fair play" is a bit skewed. The government did not cause the deaths...those who carried out the armed attack did. It's a shame that you are wasting your life siding with terrorists. You must be rather young and immature.
The Brits pulled out!?! Really? The Brits never stay around for the fighting. And if we had done that, these repubtards would be crying that Obama cut and run and calling him an appeaser (like they already have been, though he has kicked way more actual a$$ than the bushie boys did) I actually think you are a troll, but let me say this... if you are truly from Europe as you say, then why don't you start off by thanking us that you aren't posting in German right now. That being said.... no one is against an Investigation.... not me anyway, but this is just actually some whine babies who are way more interested in a witch hunt than any real investigation. They always are when we have REAL President.
I speak 3 languages and yes German is one of them.
Of course the terrorists are responsible for the deaths , that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any accountability for actions before , during and after the attack.
Anyway , your commenting is too uncivil and not open minded enough , you are right and everybody else is wrong , so there is nothing to discuss.
The enquiry in to this is strictly political and must stop. It is a waste of time and does nothing to help this country. There are legitimate security reasons why some information was withheld from the public. When we go to the polls in 2014, we need to remember those politicians who were more concerned about politics than serving this country.
Rick
I don't buy your story dude. Why don't you try being honest with yourself and then people might listen to you. Lying about visiting from Europe gives you zero cred.
"Belle" has left us in a pique...when faced with reality he/she/it retreats with hurt delicate sensibilites.
Don't you have a lawn to mow because you should really get out and get some fresh air , your juvenile drivel is becoming really boring.
If you truly live in Europe and are not just another Teatroll, then this is absolutely none of your business. Butt out.
I do have dual nationality and all international affairs are of interest to me , so why do you resort to name calling , obviously you don't have anything else to say.
Oh, look. Libacryte just logged back in as Belle.
@belle You don't know republicans as well as we do. I wouldn't trust them if they said the sky was blue. republicans are bitter because they lost. If you want to really find out what is happening, watch any news EXCEPT FOX NEWS.
Ken: and you would be right, if you lived in Oregon as I do. This time of year (November through March) the sky is hardly ever blue. Here, it is almost always shades of gray.
Sorry about the DUCKS!
Ken: I am not. They didn't deserve to win. Stanford outplayed them, fair and square.
We didn't pull out because you guys did.
Someone had to stay and defend freedom instead of running away with their tail between their legs...hey but thanks for sticking around and help.
Do you think anyone is going to believe that the Inteligence Committee changed the Benghazi report to a-and I quote-"spontaneous demonstration" about a distasteful video. And sent Susan Rice out to 5 television stations to give this message to all the voters?
We are not talking a few words here--we are talking about the entire meaning of the report!
Shame of the media! Go back to journalism school!
go back and re-read the article ... not the legislative committee...the professional intelligence community... so that the load mouths wouldn't interfere with thier job. Nice work.
I agree , it is almost like we have a state owned media , like in Russia.
the "media" were not suppossed to get the whole truth...they would have broadcast it as a warning...like Geraldo showing the tank deployments on world TV.
I fully agree. It's almost like the CIA thinks it is their job to determine what information is classified and what is not. And it's almost like Rice and Obama fell right into their trap and failed to leak classified information (like the Republicans seem to have wanted although they would have criticised Obama even more if that had happend). Who would have thought?
The GOP, having already given up on science and more recently math (see GOP polling assuring a Romney landslide), appears now to disbelieve every thing they hear, regardless of source, unless it matches their ideological needs.
That rabbit hole is getting smaller and stranger by the day.
The intell community did the job as they thought best ...trying to keep politicians from weakening thier cababilities through public grandstanding ... not important to republicans who can't live without stepping into the "bully pulpit" of the angry press conference. Message to ALL stripes of politician : the professionals don't trust you to keep your big mouths shut.
If they had not changed the talking points and had, instead, released classified information about a classified CIA opperation the GOP would have been howling for Obama's head as well. Sorry Mr. President, you were darned no matter which route you took on this one. The GOP just can't get over the fact that they didn't win the Presidency.
Amen to that.
Repubs are angrier at the president than the actual killers.
Dems are angrier at the makers of a video than the acutal killers.
See...generalizations are assinine, no matter which side they come from.
That was pretty weak son. Try again
That's OK pops...I understand generalizations are right from the talking points playbook.
A college educated white American-
You neither know the truth nor can handle it.
How many classes did you skip to go drinking?
As a college graduate who has multiple degrees and honors, I should think that your continual posting and replying on numerous comments would prove that you are without a doubt the most intolerable, bloviating, neighbor that entire neighborhoods hate. You simply must become the dean at our graduate school since you have such eloquent remarks and exhibit a high standard of independent thought and tolerance. Now, wasn't that easy for you to hear the truth? Angry white American males are the dinosaurs of the 21st century. If we don't change our hateful ways, we will become extinct.
Show me some truth...I will wait
Making the deaths of some of our public employees into political fodder.... tsk, tsk...
Name one time.... EVER, that republicans gave a rat's patootie about someone in the public sector!
Man the hypocracy of you folks is amazing.
Nice line from a "movie" . How quaint and yet so original! Again I will clarify for you. So long as someone controls you either by guns or by force, you will cease to have independent thought! I am rational and I listen to all aspects of a case. Apparently you are a follower. You follow what your buddies and your cultural mindset group spews to you. Your truth is what gets told to you. My truth is what I believe once I have assessed all the evidence and make a judgement call. This is the truth of what seperates me from you. You believe because you are forced to. I believe because I can have independent thought and am a rational thinker. Spew your hatred further so my point can be further proven.
Just another attempted cover up. This in any case is not the info the president or Rice had. They knew exactly what had happened and continued to spew out the lies. IMPEACH
I don't care to hear the BS about Repubs cutting the budget, We had help close enough and we had enough fore warning to either reenforce the embassy or evacuate them This is nothing but a failure of our President to protect our Ambassador.
LMAO!!!!
Impeach for what exactly?
someones been watching to much Hannity.....
If I had a dollar for everytime you mention Fox News, I think I could get this country out of debt. You're a little obsessed...
Are you obsessed with following me around? Are you my lil stalker?
How cute!!!
I do agree with one part. The REAL injustice is what happened to those brave souls. Everyone is focusing on who called it what group and for what reason. WHO CARES what they said about who it was. How about just finding out why more wasn't done to prevent it. If it were one of my realives I would be OUTRAGED that the focus was on why it wasn't called a terrorist attack sooner. And shame on all of you that are shifting the focus to twist it into a political tool.
You work that stupid like it's your job! The Libyan government also told Stevens and others that they should leave for a while. Help was sent. Write a letter to the Libyan government and ask them why the troops we sent were detained at the airport for hours instead of being rushed to help. Consider every aspect of what happen. Not just what you feel is important.
And Ronald Reagan failed to protect the Marines, Clinton failed to protect Americans, and Bush failed to protect Americans. The world is a messy place. Life is not perfect. Get over it.
The statement and changes were handled the way all government agencies, big, small, handle communications. There was no cover up. They were instead trying to prevent classifying something one way that could just as well actually be something else. Err on the side of caution. I was in government communications for 40 years, from school districts, to city, county and state governments. Republican and Democratic leadership. Doesn't matter. Cautious communications cause less controversy and are less destructive. If it wasn't for the dramatic Republican hatred of all things Democrat, this would be a done issue. It was handled professionally and the way it should have been.
"I don't care to hear the BS about Repubs cutting the budget, We had help close enough and we had enough fore warning to either reenforce the embassy or evacuate them".
Of course any response taken would have cost 10 times as much money than funding the original budgetary request would have...oh, and 4 Americans would still be alive. But, hey, you don't want to hear about it.
Impeach? Don't be silly. Investigat then, if warranted, impeach but all you or anyone else gets is news reprots. Do you for one second think that's accurate enough data to impeach from? If you don't understand how your government works then refrain from commenting on it. What are the issues? Whether the attack was preventable based on previous intel. Whether the government did not respond to the attack when it should and why. And whether a cover-up was conducted and way. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. Who cares whether Rice was accurate or not? It's States issue, not the UN! She was thrown under the bus for some reason. I want to know what that reason was. So stop with the ignorant comments that distract from the real questions. Let the grown up work.
So 21/2 months after the attack in Benghazi somebody /anybody gets assigned to take the blame to make it all look right.
Americans don't get it , this is not about being a Democrat or Republican , it is about being an American and expecting credible and clear answers from the President and his administration.
You will be called a tinpot monarchy from the 3rd world if you don't watch it.
The President has given clear answers.
Are you actually following this story or just getting your "facts" from Fox?
There you go and prove my point , you are not able to state anything without blaming it on the opposing party affiliation.
That makes you narrow minded and lacking intelligence.
I rely for my news on the international press , more accurate and factual , you should try it.
I said nothing about another party. Try again. you have made no point.
This is no more then a pack of dogs and the waging tongues dripping with the blood of the collective ego of the right. No different then when liberals do it. This is a stupid debate of who said what and when.
Waging tongues? So. . . These tongues were betting on something? I think he meant wagging. Because that would be a sight to see two tongues betting on who said what and then trying to collect on that bet. Half the commenting public would argue about which tongue said what and when.
It is sad that Republicans played politics with Embassy security, and now have the blood of 4 more dead Embassy workers.
Next time President Obama requests additional security for the Libya Embassy, listen to him and SIGN THE BILL.
President Obama warned you this would happen if you did not sign the bill ... but you were too busy running Herman Cain for President.
Herms 999 plan would have solved this
Just like 2005: During Condoleeza Rice confirmation hearings....In addition, the State Department is continuing an efficient program to upgrade security at U.S. missions around the world. Even though Congress has failed to provide all the funds requested by the president to strengthen the State Department and U.S. foreign policy capabilities, this committee is enthusiastic about the progress that you have made so far.
This speaks the total failure of the Obama administration. Deceit, wrapped in a lie, packaged with intent to defraud. There is no low too low. No lie too small or great. A Washington cesspool.
Uh, that's politics. Do you honestly think ANY of them can be trusted? And as hard as this may be to admit, MAYBE JUST MAYBE we shouldn't know EVERYTHING that goes on, that's how secrets get leaked and people get killed. How do you think we keep finding the terrorist leadership....uh snitches. It sure isn't because we get lucky all the time and stumble on em like daisies it the park.
Let me get this straight. Obama asks for funding to increase security for our men and women serving in the State department. That funding is denied by Congress, and you are trying to argue that this is a failure of Obama's? You do realize that Congress, not the President, dictates spending, right.
Congress has appropriated less money for the State Department than requested in every year since Fiscal 2007...that would be both side of the aisle. Democrats and Republicans alike...let's not try to spin it like only one side plays politics.
At what point can we all agree that "extremists" are the same thing as "terrorists". Why the hell would it matter in the long run what term was used? I think we are all intelligent enough to answer this question: When people attack compound and murder foreign officials, or people for that matter, aren't they providing terror in extreme measures? As a culture/society, we Americans nit-pick the littlest of details to disparage others at our own demise.
Good point. During the Iraq war we referred to the enemy as 'insurgents' and 'terrorists'.
In reality, they were good, civilian, freedom-fighters – fighting the foreign invader to try to gain freedom.
If Iranians invaded Dallas, raped and murdered 18-year old Dallas Cheerleaders, and placed armed soldiers on every street corner, and went into Texas houses and wiped out entire families, would we call ourselves 'terrorists' if we fought back?
Susan Rice spoke AFTER the events had taken place based on talking points that didn't include the words "terrorist" in it and Republicans who cut funding to embassies just 2 years ago, have their Depends all in a twist over that.
Condoleezza Rice spoke to congress to convince them that we needed to invade Iraq to get rid of their WMD's BEFORE we invaded Iraq. As a result of her and other Republicans' urging, thousands of troops died along with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians on top of billions of dollars spent that we didn't have because of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, only to find out that Iraq never really had any WMD's as the UN originally determined. So where's all the anger from conservatives at with Condoleezza Rice? They instead were quick to blame "intellegence".
Conservatives are "angry" not because they really cared about those guys killed in Bengazi. Conservatives are acting like those guys who cheat on their wives/girlfriends; instead of being accountable for their actions they are going to instead be all angry at their wives/girlfriends to compensate for that guilt they don't want to deal with. You know the types? All suspecious of their wives or girlfriends because they think they're just like them and that they'd cheat if given the chance. You see, conservatives are acting out because they'd rather be angry at "liberals" and Obama and in a way blame them for everything, instead of being accountable for their own mistakes and deceptions. Conservatives believe themselve to be righteous and the definition of "true Americans". Their ego will not allow them to admit when their wrong, but they'll be happy to lecture everyone else about taking accountability. No different from the guy who never does jack at work yet he's so keen on identifying everyone who doesn't do any work.
Libtards, the foremost experts on intelligence matters, lololol. So what you're really saying is that CIA covered up their ties to al qaeda affiliates in libya, whom they were trying to use to oust Assad in Syria, even after they destroyed the Benghazi Consulate and murdered Stevens, et. al? So, this isn't another Obama scandal on the order of Iran-contra or fast and furious by itself?
LMAO!!!!!!
Get some education son. It will help you make informed decisions and not be so gullible in front of the Fox News channel.
Conservatives hate facts because it never validates their biases. To them the truth is how they "feel" about something not what it actually is in reality.
So true!
criticizing biases in a clearly very biased comment makes you look pretty stupid.
psssss. hey repubs..this is an irrelevant issue....oh, and you lost the election. Try to be men about it, ok?
You should've told that to libs during W years.
We arent talking about W. Try to stay on topic
The folks who would know what happened explained it to Republicans and Republicans did not like the answer because the answer didn't validate their bias of which was the motive for this whole "investigation" (aka circus) to begin with. There was nothing there that made Obama look bad so Republicans didn't like that and are going to keep asking until they get the answer they agree with regardless if its the truth or not. Maybe the janitor in the CIA who voted for Romney can make up something and Republicans can use that as talking points for Fox News?
Now, what janitor in their right mind would have voted for Romney. Come on.
Republicans don't believe anything unless it comes from there echo chambers.
"The original talking points were much more specific about al Qaeda involvement and yet final ones just said indications of extremists," King said. The September 11 attack resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The unclassified talking points were first developed by the CIA at the request of the House Intelligence Committee, whose members wanted to know what they could say publicly about the Benghazi attack.
And who did they ask for what could be said publicly?? Your 'freebie' president??
Learn how the system truly works before making asinine statments. I dont want you to look foolish
Actually, the talking points were routed from the CIA to other intelligence agencies and the House Intelligence Committee prior to making its way to the White House. All the changes that were made to those points were done between the CIA and the House Intelligence Committee.
Right, pagan.
No, dear. Just read the article.
And doesn't the House Intelligence Committee consists of several republicans (I know that is a like a huge oxymoron, heavy on the moron, but true).
Sooooo, it was the republicans fault?
Anyone surprised?
I soughta remember another Rice who insisted that there were weapons of mass destruction and even wrote an editorial in the news ..hmmmm I remember being warned about mushroom clouds...mmm I remember waching Cheney are news shows claiming Iraq had something to do with 9/11 quoting news articles from the New York Times..and I remember how we found out that he had planted the very same stories he quoted...I remember that after we were lied into a war that cost thousands of lives that Condolizza Rice was still confirmed as secretary of state...and the democrats did not ask for the head of George Bush....soughta of a double standard but of course that time Fox News and the right wing did everything they could to deceive us and call anyone who dissented unpatriotiic
Even conceding the newest, though questionable MSDNC cover story, to wit: that the CIA unilaterally obscured al qaeda involvement in Benghazi, there is still a scandal, which would be on the order of Iran-Contra: that Obama armed Libyan Al Qaeda affiliates to take out Assad in Syria and then twisted intel to obscure its role in the Benghazi attack.
Pick your poison, libtards-history will judge this as one in a continuing pattern of destroyed embassies/consulates and dead ambassadors occurring in the last 3 Democrat presidential administrations (carter 1, clinton 2, obama 1=4 and 2 dead ambassadors and many more staff). It is really the appeasement gene in the Democrat DNA (excluding Truman, Kennedy). It is why Clinton did nothing after al qaeda bombed the WTC in 1993 killed 19 troops in Somalia, destroyed our embassies and naval vessels in the 1990's. Then, Democrats have the gall to blame bush for 9/11 when the oval office luggage hadn't even been unpacked.
huh? Can someone translate this diarrhea for me?
I'll take a crack at it for you.
Forget everything that happened concerning the Middle East under Reagan and the Shrubs watch. Forget the fact that the foreign policies of dear Saint Ronnie created both Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Forget the fact that the economic policies of dear Saint Ronnie and followed by the Shrubs created over $15.2 trillion of our current National Debt.
All that you must know is that Carter(6 letters) + Clinto(6 letters) + nObama (6 letters) = 666 even though I had to move the n in Clinton to in front of Obama to equal nObama. But the signs are clear that the Democrats are the anti-Christ and will bring about the end times in 2012 predicted by the Mayans who were heathens and devils we had to destroy in the name of our God because only we are right and everyone else is wrong.
Does that explain it simply enough? Please excuse me while I invest more of my money in Reynolds Wrap stock I predict a big boom in the Tin Foil hat industry over the next 4 years in the Red States.
Thank you for the translation. You are a good American.
Thank you for the stock tip too!
It's Palin Speak...you have to be one of us to understand it.
GW didnt unpack his luggage for almost a year? wow!
Love the irony...you're complaining that someone tried to pass the buck to Clinton because Bush was only in office for less than a year. That argument sounds so familiar to me...hmmmm, what could it be?
Do you have reading comprehension issues? Try reading all the above, slowly and then type your comment again.
Your Welcome!!
JCC, I can't make this any plainer than this: Either every president can follow a chain of events back to their predecessor (not that it makes them not guilty of apathy, like W being apathetic towards the "planes" memo in August of 2001). It's what they do with the situation that determines how effective they are. Bush handed off an economy circling the drain and Obama's policies, though expensive, have turned the economy around.
The suggestions by DNI, the FBI, and WHite House all seem completely reasonable......Why does this House insist on making this into a Circus, when it should Only be a collaborative Bi Partisan private discussion about our Embassy strategy and how to improve our response next time, if possible....The GOP will self destruct if that don't switch the subject to the fiscal cliff and the the war in the middle east.........
What was said afterward is completely irrelevant to what happened in Benghazi and how to prevent such occurances from happening again. This committee has failed to do what they were initially set out to do. Instead of finding ways to, as you put it, speed up response times or put policies in place that can allow for additional security, they have focused too much on unclassified talking points that were meant for the people. However, this inquiry does not affect the avoidance of the fiscal cliff because other Senators and Representatives are handling that issue.
The country should not be so mean to incompetent people after all Rice was only being the parrot of the Obama administration. It's not her fault that she can't see things for what they are without being told what to think.
Do you have any clue what is going on with this story?
How many government workers in hot spots are feeling great about the administration's willingness to protect them? I wouldn't want to get between their "political expediency" and an rpg, I can tell you.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.
Because of cuts no help was available? Anywhere? Anybody? Nothing?
More people getting thrown under the Obama bus.
It's time for the Republicans to stop capitalizing on the deaths of their fellow citizens, accept that they do not have an argument, and move on. We have huge problems that need fixing and you people obsessing over something like this is NOT helping.
Well fine but Obama is still on the hook for Jimmy Hoffa.
Why do we put up with all these Republicans that everyday WASTE AMERICAN TIME AND TAX PAYER MONEY?
Obama is the PRESIDENT – fall in line and do YOUR job – stop trying to make stuff up....
The same reason we put up with leftists who couldn't come to terms with bush being president. So you should take some of your own advice & shut up & do YOUR job.
Looks like you both need to ST F U and get on with your lives.
Was that your big boy voice libacryte?
Actually, Democrats didn't have to make stuff up to make Bush look bad. These attempts to discredit President Obama are just pathetic.
Funny you talk about republicans wasting money, ironic coming from a liberal, you should be crying about the debt cieling and food stamps.
I have never seen so many people cry and moan about rebulicans, it's amazing, just non stop whining all day long. I never knew reading CNN makes these people better equipped to run our country than people who handle it everyday for a living and actually make these decisions.
Benghazi – the shiny object for republicans
Since this Benghazi conspiracy is dying down, what is the next one repubs?
LOL the next one from the repubs will be: the CIA are lying! They want to see evidence that the CIA actually DID make the changes, etc...etc... Unbelievable! These are the same people who didn't utter a word when there were questions why GW Bush didn't pay attention to warnings that Al Qaeda was plotting to attack the US; when there were attacks to our diplomatic locations around the world when GW Bush was president; These are the same people who never screamed fire when they passed deficit after deficit spendings under GW Bush...No wonder why they lost, and they didn't lose by a "squeaker", they've lost big time!!
Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe from this feed? If I have to see one more ridiculous, ignorant partisan generalization or childish name-calling barb jam up my inbox, I will ship myself to Benghazi.
Now hold on just a goldurn minute... these resmuglicans on here are all screaming for someone's head over this Benghazi thing and seem to want to make it out to be some vast left wing conspiracy to take over the world and parts of Florida... am I wrong, or was not the resmuglicans on the security council given the same talking points? Why are not/did they not step forward and say hey, wait a minute... here's what really happened...
It's because it is a matter of National Security (remember... your boys used this excuse at every turn, every day, for 8 friggin' years). So, should we just throw out classified information the second it is delivered just so you can have some ammunition against the President (now I sound like Ann Romney hee, hee)
*yawn* People are still talking about this?...
James Clapper taking one for the team, and with Schiff. Protecting sources is great, coming up with a movie for political gain and now saying protecting sources not so great.
So long as those who control the controlled either by guns or by force, you will be forced to believe their "truth"! Do we really need the truth to be broadcast to the world? Study terrorists and gangs sometime and you will see that when you give them recognition, you empower them further. They crave the talking point so as to affirm their purpose, provide them with a recruiting tool, and to give the satisfaction of knowing we felt their revenge. We bend the truth everyday of our lives. Go ahead, tell your wife the truth when she cooks a bad meal. Go ahead and show a news cast of local gang grafiiti on tv. Watch how fast the city will be covered with grafifti. If you give them recognition, they "win".