Navy SEALs punished for revealing secrets to video game maker
A Pentagon official said Matt Bissonnette, a former Navy SEAL, also shared classified information when he released his memoir No Easy Day, described by Bissonnette as “the first hand account of the mission that killed Osama bin Laden.”
November 9th, 2012
01:38 AM ET

Navy SEALs punished for revealing secrets to video game maker

By Mike Mount

Seven U.S. Navy SEALs have been reprimanded for giving up classified information connected to their tradecraft so a video game could seem more realistic, according to a navy official.

The seven were charged with the unauthorized showing of their official combat gear and dereliction of duty for disclosing classified material after an investigation found the seven to have worked as paid consultants for two days with the video game company Electronic Arts, according to a U.S. Navy official familiar with the investigation.

The work, done around the late spring and early summer, was unauthorized by their commanders and against military regulations according to the Navy official.

All seven are active duty members of SEAL Team 6, considered the most elite of the Navy’s SEAL community. At least one of the team members was on the raid that killed Osama bin Laden last year, according to a Navy official.

The seven, all senior enlisted sailors, received their punishment Thursday at their base in Virginia. All seven were given a letter of reprimand and their pay taken for two months. The move essentially prevents their chances for promotion and ends their military careers.

Four other SEALs who have since transferred to west coast SEAL teams are still under investigation, according to the official.

The seven members were consulting with Electronic Arts on the game “Medal of Honor: Warfighter,” according to the official. The game touts that it is developed with the help of former and active duty commandos.

"Naval Special Warfare (NSW) takes all allegations of misconduct seriously and conducts investigations to determine the facts. We likewise take seriously the Non-Disclosure Agreements signed by Sailors and adherence to the articles of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice,” said Rear Adm. Garry Bonelli, Deputy Commander of the Naval Special Warfare Center in a statement given to Security Clearance.

"We do not tolerate deviations from the policies that govern who we are and what we do as Sailors in the United States Navy. The non-judicial punishment decisions made today send a clear message throughout our Force that we are and will be held to a high standard of accountability,” Bonelli, said.

The disclosure of the extra curricular activities of the SEALs comes on the heels of recently retired SEAL who was on the bin Laden raid and wrote a book about the operation.

The publication of the book released a firestorm of complaints toward the author by the Pentagon which said the book revealed secret information about how the SEALs operate. Pentagon officials threatened the author with legal action if the book was published.

To date there has been no further action toward the author Matt Bissonette, who wrote the book under the name Mark Owen.

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  1. hecep

    I guess there was no point in they becoming Navy SEALS unless there was some financial payoff along the way. So much for so-called heros.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
  2. Jaime

    The sad thing is that Medal Of Honor Warfighter is a terrible game! Medal Of Honor 2010 was an excellent game, but Warfighter is just for those who didn't play the beta.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:47 am | Reply
  3. jtw218

    I was in the Navy, I was a commissioned officer, I graduated from the Naval Academy.

    I have worked with SeALs as in, I was on the same ship as they were. They keep to themselves and interact with the crew on a semi-formal basis, they will salute an Officer, they will not converse with Officers unless the Officer intiates the contact.

    When I have talked to a SeAL, it is normally. How are you? What new, did you see the game lastnight etc, etc, etc. Never got into Mission Critical details, or asked how their mission went. No, I just talked to them as fellow Navy, nothing more. When we get the call to send them out. They already know, and it is a matter of getting them off the ship, as much the rest of the crew is blind to the fact. They know how to get to the deck to get aboard their helicopter before it takes off, and they usally are already in the hangar going their own seperate ways. If you were aboard Naval ship, and was walking the ship, you would have passed SeALs and not knowing, or you see the Muscular guys who you thought were SeALs, but were more machinist mates....SeALs range in size and body shape, because each has to be special in their own right to get into places where their bigger team mates cant.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • lol

      LOL. "I have worked with SeALs as in, I was on the same ship as they were". Hey guys! That must mean that I can say I worked with seals, green berets, or deltas too because I was in the same building as they were!! Dude, you don't sound like a commissioned officer, you sound like an arm chair general.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
      • Dennis

        My thoughts exactly.
        This faker is so full of it.......

        November 9, 2012 at 9:08 am |
      • jtw218

        You have misconstrued my comment. I was not saying, I worked with them directly, I am saying because of their secretive nature, not many aboard a ship knew who they were. As for grammar, perhaps some of you neeed to grasp the concept of what grammar is, it is not HOW YOU TYPE , it is about how you address the context of your post.

        What I was basically saying, I never interacted with SeALs in any way shape or form on a mission critical basis, I knew they were on a ship, but the compliment of the attachment was not known widely to the entire crew. SeALs do not go around bragging and boasting, as many have stated on this post.

        Neither have I.

        November 9, 2012 at 9:23 am |
    • Wes

      Really? You graduated from the Naval Academy? I hope you are not in the Navy now, for with the writing (communication) skills demonstrated in your post, were you to call for a strike with a carrier group, it is just as likely a landing craft would be sent.

      November 9, 2012 at 9:01 am | Reply
      • jtw218

        Actually, that would be "Call for a carrier group strike." The way you phrased it, would be call for a strike on a carrier group. So before you get on something for their "Communication" and grammatical errors, perhaps you should check your own?

        November 9, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Dale

      @jtw218 First, thank you for your service. Second, I had no issue understanding the intent of your comments.

      November 9, 2012 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • jtw218

        @Dale Welcomed.

        Actually as SeALs go (And that is how you spell SeAL, Not seals) they are highly respected, how some of them can trade their craft for money is beyond me.
        Being NUPOC and going through the Training, the US Navy was the only course for me to obtain my career. So being in the Navy, cut my progress in half, and being Stationed aboard a Carrier, allowed me to assist any ship with a problem. Even the SeALs I know, did not want to be around me, because they actually were scared of me lol. Some people think I was part of the SeALs inner circle, I was not, I am just privy to their lifestyle. Now if EA wants info on my job, that is going to be one boring game.

        November 9, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Sabs

      Dear SWOShoe: I understand what you are trying to say, however I never discussed anything mission critical with anyone to which I was not involved, not just the seals. It seems as if you hold the BudBoys missions in higher regard than a lot of the other deckplate kids who are all supporting a mission in some way shape or form. (I learned that every year on NKO!: in case you missed it DOD-PII-v2–or whatever one is listed as 'active').

      November 9, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
  4. jtw218

    Actually, SeALs commanding officer, does not have the authority to declassify anythig their teams act upon.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:30 am | Reply
  5. Forreal

    What some people will do for money! These seven are so greedy that they could risk the lives of others for money.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
  6. bill davis

    Obama could have sold it in his book, who cares as we turn our back let them die..

    November 9, 2012 at 8:23 am | Reply
  7. jj

    Somehow, you just know the right is going to try to blame Obama for this one too.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:17 am | Reply
    • TomM

      jj, yes, the right wing will try to blame Obama. These guys received Article 15 non-judicial punishment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. What the CNN story did not say is that all military service members can refuse to accept punishment under Article 15, and demand a Courts Martial. So, basically they knew they would be found guilty at a Courts Martial and decided to accept the Article 15. That way, they avoided a Federal conviction.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
  8. jtw218

    Ok, listen up all of you who know SeAL Team 6. You are lying and here how I know. SeAL Team 6 Was renamed US Navy Special Warfare Development Group aka DEVGRU.

    The SeAL Team 6 Moniker, was placed as a Phanthom Unit, where as they select the best Possible SeALs from Teams, 1,2,3,4,5,7,8 AND 10. They pick from the Operational Force, and form SeAL Team 6, so no one knows for sure, they are assembled and trained to work togehter as a cohesive unit. Then they are deployed. The trick is, Any current Team can become SeAL Team 6 Dependent on the mission....So Please, stop lying about you know SeAL Team 6, You may or may not know a Member of SeAL Team 6, YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO WAS PART OF THAT TEAM.....And No, I am not a SeAL.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:16 am | Reply
  9. Mitchell

    An LoR isn't even that bad. They didn't get articles. They'll be fine.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:15 am | Reply
  10. Tutuvabene

    They'll just become private mercenaries and take government contracts, especially if they were good at their craft.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:09 am | Reply
  11. michaelfury

    Did they reveal these secrets while they were at it?

    November 9, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
  12. Dennis

    My question is a simple one.
    If the information the Seals revealed was so super secret, why did the government make public the fact that they were charged and punished for this.
    That only drew public attention to something which otherwise would have gone mostly unnoticed.
    At a minimum the Navy is an aider and abetter in drawing attention to this "super secret " gear which is probably on the nightly news anyway. My experience in the military is that the troops follow their leadership sometimes to the death.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:06 am | Reply
  13. JorgeF

    Didn't Obama promise transparency. So its ok for his a$$ to disclose their existence but they can't say what they use considering most of the equipment they use can be found doing a simple wiki search. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America (USSA). May God help us all.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:03 am | Reply
    • mickey lane

      First & foremost a big thank you to the SEALS for the work they do for our country. Second, WE THE PEOPLE should demand Obama's resignation, impeachment/take his pay & give it to the SEALS. Obamawas quick to take credit for Bin Laden's death – he had nothing to do with it except give the go ahead. HE HAD TO!!!! The super incredible work done by the Seals & those behind the scenes to bring it about should be more than compensated. This took years of prep & Obama, as always takes credit for the good work of others. Third, Obama totally ignored 7 was delict of his duty when he refused to acknowledge help to our people in Lybia. For crying out loud somebody stop being afraid of this fool in OUR White House.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:36 am | Reply
      • FACTS

        Obama told them to send along a second helicopter in case of malfunction and since you know everything I don't need to explain how that impacted the mission. Moron.

        November 9, 2012 at 8:47 am |
      • T-BONE

        Obama may have approved a second helicopter but dont even try to get us to believe he set up the mission equipment list you dolt!

        Did he also tell them to take extra underwear just in case?

        November 9, 2012 at 8:59 am |
      • FACTS

        No he didn't tell them what else to bring, nice straw man. What he did say was to use two helicopters, and it wasn't him "approving" a request for two helicopters. It was him telling them to use two, they didn't ask for it. Please go ahead an continue to ignore facts, sooner or later you'll come to the realization that they aren't disputable, and when that moment comes our country will be far better off.

        November 9, 2012 at 10:01 am |
      • whatsyourpoint

        rascist much just come out redneck and say get the N out of the white house what a true patron you are. Trailer trash hillbilly

        November 9, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  14. Hogan's Goat

    Oh man, they could have just cleared this with the C.O. and been told what they could and couldn't show, and got paid the same. What a waste of good SEALS, and they really had no choice.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
    • T-BONE

      actually they did have a choice.
      They could have followed the rules and even better just followed the SEALS code of conduct and stopped being glory seekers.

      November 9, 2012 at 9:00 am | Reply
      • mickey lane

        Hey, they were just following their leader. & he, Obama, should be brought on charges first!

        November 9, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • whatsyourpoint

      no choice in what keeping their mouthes shut like all that came before them. you sign a coc. I signed one and to this day do not talk about building udt to blow up ships or how they are made. you make a choice and they made the wrong one. no one is to blame but them.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
  15. Pablo

    Back to swabbing decks on a fueler!

    November 9, 2012 at 8:01 am | Reply
  16. a slozomby

    who cares. i can walk into any surplus store ( or just surf online for a few minutes) and pick up field manuals that will give me all the basics of building and deploying ied's, and ambush and defensive tactics.

    the US patent office has the plans online for a variety of nice explosive compounds that can be made with a trip to the pool supply and hardware stores and a high school knowledge of chemistry.

    so how exactly is call of duty going to going to make any difference.

    November 9, 2012 at 8:00 am | Reply
    • whatsyourpoint

      lol good luck on going online to search about making ied's you dont think big brother watches that crap, good luck

      November 9, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
  17. keith

    I hope all of the Specops folks get out so that our black hero can go prove himself since hes always taking credit

    November 9, 2012 at 7:59 am | Reply
    • Hogan's Goat

      Shut your disloyal pie hole and go back to flipping burgers.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
  18. Noel

    its all about Money... it makes the world go round..

    November 9, 2012 at 7:57 am | Reply
    • SideOfBacon

      so the world would be flat without money? unless of course you meant around.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:57 am | Reply
  19. ed

    because when i play a game where i can die 15 times in a game and keep coming back as believable. it's real. i swear. my gear is the reason i can keep doing that. way to give up our secrets.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
  20. ass9

    No one would have known that it was their official gear in the game if this story didnt blab it.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
  21. Dave

    Many of the young adults playing these games, may very well become members of ST6 or other special forces.........

    If this story hadn't broken, more than likely no one would even know what to look for.........

    November 9, 2012 at 7:47 am | Reply
    • T-BONE

      Are you serious?
      The "young adults" playing these games are overweight couch potatoes that will be lucky to turn the game off long enough to go do their pizza delivery route.

      November 9, 2012 at 9:02 am | Reply
      • Majic


        And may I add, they still live in their parents basement and their other source of income is an allowance from their folks.

        November 9, 2012 at 9:49 am |
  22. darmonx

    those men who became seals were trained and geared with tax payer money. that game coming out better be free.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:44 am | Reply
    • ed

      they can't give that game away, anymore.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:48 am | Reply
    • ass9

      Its been out

      November 9, 2012 at 7:51 am | Reply
  23. Glenn S

    While I really appreciate and honor our military forces, be it regular or special ops, they (ST6) have been forewarned that anything like these sharing of information regarding gear,tactics or communications, is not allowed & will not be tolerated. They are not the only special ops in the military but they are the only ones that who keeps on "sharing" these information, be it classified or not. I'm just hoping no one from CIA's SAD write a book about how they got selected coming from DEVGRU or Delta and what they did there.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:32 am | Reply
    • WCR757

      I don't see how you can lay the blame entirely at the feet of DEVGRU operators for classified details about their operations/tactics/equipment becoming public. First, even with as big as SOCOM has become, with its numerous Special Operations units and Tier One units, along with their support units, information is going to leak out here and there. But in direct regard to DEVGRU; due to their number of operators, mission success rates, diversity of skills, their funding, and the support and logistics available to them (and only them), it enables them to be perhaps the most easily deployable and "flexible", and this in large part has moved them to the top of the short-list of Tier 1 units in SOCOM that are called up to handle top priority missions. SEALs are elite, no bones about it. But moving from a regular SEAL team to DEVGRU is like going a Hilton to the Four Seasons. They get whatever they need in terms of weapons and equipment, often maintaining redundancy so they can keep several load-outs or "kits" packed and ready so can hop on a plane or helo at a moment's notice and carry out whatever mission type they're tasked with. Basically what I'm getting at is, because of their top notch support, amazing funding, and their size, they have been "utilized" in an increasing rate over the past 10 years. And when you become a unit that is as capable and active as they are, things are bound to slip out. However, aside from not being authorized to consult for the developers of this video game (and I've played it so I've seen what's in it), I don't see a huge issue. There's nothing in the game that's not common knowledge to anyone who stays up to date on the basics of the publicly available information about the gear and equipment Intel and SOCOM community. And let's be frank here... The Obama Administration outed DEVGRU as thos who conducted Operation Neptune Spear, and admitted that the SEALs later killed in that Chinook crash were from DEVGRU as well. Then the Administration shared plenty of classified informatin with Kathryn Bigelow and the writers of the film Zero Dark Thirty. And when a SEAL is killed in action, its not uncommon for the media to find out and report on it on the fact that it was a SEAL. When that Chinook when down, it wasn't the public's business to know about what unit or branch of the military they were serving with. They should just keep the details limited: "Special Operations Soldiers Killed...". But to reprimand SEALs for their input into this video game, which doesn't contain significantly different content from that of its prequel, just makes no sense to me. Games have been made about Special Operations Forces for years, and now it's gotten to the point where one game seems no different from another. Wow, I just typed a novel! Thanks adderall...

      November 9, 2012 at 11:19 am | Reply
  24. Michael Olenick

    It's hard (read: difficult) to believe our top soldiers would reveal anything that would be helpful to anybody. I don't know why the appearance of their gear is a secret: by definition US enemies see it. While for some it's the last thing they see there's no doubt others they leave behind. SEAL's are, by definition, young men. They like video games, and it's also hard to believe EA would release anything useful. The military should lighten up on them.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:31 am | Reply
    • Rad

      Certainly nothing of significant intelligence was given up I'm sure. However, the military does hold a high standard of conduct for its personnel. The Navy Seals, being our elite forces, are especially held to stricter standards than most Americans who happen to like video games. The problem is EA should have consulted with players higher up in the military command to see what would be appropriate to disclose. By contacting those who were not authorized to speak on such matters, EA undermined the system and acted disgracefully. EA simply wanted to get what it wanted without going through a longer process of getting information declassified. It really undermines our nation's military and for what? Pure commercial interests. It's sad that those soldiers effectively forfeited their military careers due to this lapse in judgement. However, they knew what was expected of them. They decided to defy command by making a profit at the expense of the uniform they wear.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
    • Hogan's Goat

      " The military should lighten up on them." Yes, and their guns should shoot delicious cupcakes instead of bullets, and the enemy would be all like "Hey, we don't want to fight now," and there would be peace and everyone would get a pony for Christmas. Sorry, military don't play. "Don't reveal secrets" means just that; they may not have revealed anything vital but they shouldn't have revealed ANYTHING without orders. And this is good PR, they would have been permitted if they'd asked nicely.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
  25. Lee

    Seal Team 6 did not exist until El Presidente opened his big mouth and outed them. He is the one that gave the film makers inside access and knowledge to the Bin Laden take down. So, who really should be getting pay docked and getting kicked out of his job?

    November 9, 2012 at 7:26 am | Reply
    • Starman

      Oh really? Guess you were the only one that didn't know. Ever hear of Demo Dick Marchenko? No, of course not. Mowron.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:32 am | Reply
      • ed

        great books.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • momentis

      The SEALs should.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:33 am | Reply
    • Seth Colton

      Your complete disregard for the truth immediately broadcasts that you are a Republican. The GOP will have this stigma attached to them for the rest of their existence; which I hope is short. Books have been written about the SEALs and SEAL team Six since they were formed as well as all the other Special Forces. I have 15 such books from 20 years ago; not that that would matter to folks you. To lie for the sole purpose of discrediting the President is, to say the least, Un-American. I guess the GOP is synonomous with TROLL.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:50 am | Reply
    • mickey lane


      November 9, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
      • mickey lane

        Lee you are so right. The so-called commander-in-chief should be the one reprimanded & jailed. Afterall he is the one who FIRST was on national airwaves taking credit & outing the seals!

        November 9, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Hogan's Goat

      "Seal Team 6 did not exist until El Presidente opened his big mouth and outed them." This is the kind of imaginary thinking that lost you the election and is shrinking your party. Put down the crack pipe and go outside.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • Greg

      The President never even said who it was other than that it was special forces, which was of course who was on the mission. And anyone who's at all familiar with our special forces could've guessed that it was SEAL Team Six, Delta Force, or both that were on the ground for the mission. It was too big a deal for it not to get out. Six had never really been acknowledged by the government, but its existence has been known about for a long time. As someone else mentioned, the founder and first CO of Six has written quite a few books including his biography that details how it was first put together.

      November 9, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
  26. JustWho

    A disgrace to their service and their country. They should have been given reduced pay until their at most an undesirable discharge.

    November 9, 2012 at 7:22 am | Reply
    • Mike

      And what is the Reenlistment Code on your DD214?

      November 9, 2012 at 7:41 am | Reply
      • David O

        Mine is RE-1. Enlisted in the Navy in 1968. These guys should, at the very least, be removed as SEALs though I wouldn't disagree with the punishment that JustWho suggested. Bad enough that a retired SEAL wrote a book about their active but these guys are still on active duty.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • Hogan's Goat

      "A disgrace to their service" Too harsh, man, they just didn't think. These guys aren't lawyers; they are specialist soldiers. If it had occurred to them that they were in violation they would have shut up and retreated. There was no intention of doing anything except make a fast buck; it's not like they were selling out to China or the Mafia.

      November 9, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
  27. unowhoitsme

    These guys needed a way to support their families. Anyone would have done it. Our government doesn't do enough for our soldiers. They should be paid for life for serving our country. Veteran's are constantly having to "fight" for their rights when they get home. We gladly send them when we are at war, but they become a "problem" when they return. This is so wrong!

    November 9, 2012 at 7:13 am | Reply
    • Manuel J.

      @whonoholtme... are you a veteran AND did you serve while having a wife and child? Probably not.... but I did AND, during my years of service, my unit was twice deployed to places that we were NOT to discuss with ANYONE! I didn't make much pay but you didn't see me or others trying to make a buck ILLEGALLY!!!

      November 9, 2012 at 7:31 am | Reply
      • ass9

        Youre an idiot

        November 9, 2012 at 7:55 am |
    • momentis

      This is not an issue of fighting for their rights. They took oaths when they enlisted, and when they became SEALs. They broke those oaths and should be punished. The disclosing of that info may seem innocuous now, but there is no way of knowing the long-term impact. I would agree that we need MUCH better services for our brave men and women who do a job most of us would not, but lets not muddy the waters of this issue with that.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:36 am | Reply
  28. Name*dj

    Give em a break .. Its just a game ! And peeps want realisim . They shoul not get in trouble over it . Talk about uptight

    November 9, 2012 at 7:04 am | Reply
  29. MrId

    The SEALS need to take their ques from US Army Delta. Let your actions do the talking, not your egos.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:49 am | Reply
    • IfonlyIthot

      Seems to me that the bottom line is line: The SEALs commit to keeping certain things quiet. If they are to be honorable, they must honor that committment; otherwise, they are highly skilled and deadly, but lack integrity. The punishment may be severe, but more importantly, their integrity is in question, if not compromised. Its a bummer they did it in all ways.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:21 am | Reply
    • Chris Koffend

      I would say they took the lead from the Commander in Chief. The one and same who within hours after the briefing and agreement that all information shared was confidential, then gave a press release sharing the "confidential" information. In the process, putting the seal team 6 families at risk – just by naming them and their base location. I guess if you are going to reprimand them, should not everybody who did the same receive at least the same level of reprimand?

      November 9, 2012 at 7:23 am | Reply
      • ChrisS

        @ChrisK This argument is so worn out. The CIC is the top of the military latter who's job is to give all orders. These enlisted guys job is to take orders, not release information for a quick buck. If they were told when they got their job, its your job to keep all things secret, then they failed and deserve their punishment. Greed is the downfall of all.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:39 am |
      • mickey lane

        Right on the money!!!!! Instead of yapping why doesn't someone comeup with a way we can CHARGE the so called commander-in-chief with treason?

        November 9, 2012 at 8:55 am |
      • Hogan's Goat

        " then gave a press release sharing the "confidential" information. In the process, putting the seal team 6 families at risk"
        Actually that was our 'good friends' the Pakistan govt, who bleated every detail they could find. By the time the Prez commented, it was already all over the place. Sorry Obama had your man Osama killed before the election; I'm sure Benghazi would have been more costly and a Republican triumph with Osama's help.

        November 9, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • ed

      chuck norris revealed exactly what delta is all about.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:38 am | Reply
  30. reddog9500

    Obviously the money they were paid by Electronic Arts to reveal classified information was so good that they risked their pay and carriers. Uncle Sam wouldn't have paid them nearly as much to keep his secrets. Money talks and loyalty walks.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:47 am | Reply
    • Chris Koffend

      A statement that could only come from an individual with no loyalty. This is why companies don't hire people like you for responsible positions. Loyalty, whether national, familial, personal or corporate is not based on money – it is based on ethics and values. A feel sorry for anybody who has ever shared anything confidential with you.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:25 am | Reply
      • reddog9500

        When I was a Sergeant in the US Army I had a Secret Crypto Access clearance and NEVER even considered violating my oath for money or any other damn reason. So, take that and stick your assumptions where they belong....up your a..

        November 9, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Hogan's Goat

      Actually, it didn't occur to them that they were on thin ice; most of these details are unimportant. It's the principle that's getting them punished; follow chain of command and keep officers in the loop. If they had, it would be officers getting the chop instead.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:04 am | Reply
  31. Michael Tobias

    One minute we are praising them for killing Bin we are punishing for collaborating on game? I played the game and most of the gear used could be found on Military channel shows or the movie Act of Valor. This is BS!!!

    November 9, 2012 at 6:46 am | Reply
    • MrId

      Then the folks in ST6 should have pointed EA to and said "Thanks but no thanks".

      November 9, 2012 at 6:50 am | Reply
  32. Person

    They shouldn't have violated their clearances, and got what they deserved for that. Any information about operations is useful. Don't underestimate the enemy, even if it is a guerrilla operation. They are heroes for what they did, but putting them on a pedestal is wrong as well.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:39 am | Reply
    • Chris Koffend

      Too bad the Commander in Chief doesn't realize that. He shared more confidential information in his press release than they did.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:27 am | Reply
  33. Chris A

    How can you sit back and DO NOTHING to the former SEAL who wrote the book and justify "ending" these other SEAL's careers for talking about gear? While I find the book reprehensible in that the author sold his honor for money, I simply cannot see the logic in throwing these other SEALs under the bus after their unbelievable service and dedication to our great nation simply because they consulted on a video game! Shame on you!

    November 9, 2012 at 6:38 am | Reply
    • Jmacq1

      The book writer was already retired, and so does not fall under military jurisdiction anymore. The government would have to prove he broke federal law, not UCMJ, and that would mean civilian courts hearing classified information. In other's basically too much trouble for the government to go after the writer.

      These guys were still active duty and thus considerably easier to hit with disciplinary action. Can't say for sure, but it sound like these guys were getting a paycheck on the side and didn't get proper authorization from their chain of command/Public Affairs Office.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:57 am | Reply
    • they must feel they have nothing they can do to the author

      all of them, I appreciate what they've done, but I cannot see this as good in any way to talk about seal methods or equipment, but really what can be done

      reprimand seems about all they can do, how can you punish these heros? it must be hard to be silent after their missions

      November 9, 2012 at 6:59 am | Reply
  34. jnpa

    I don't think they just got a letter of reprimand. It must have been an Article 15 because of the forfeiture of pay.

    November 9, 2012 at 6:22 am | Reply
  35. setnommarih

    They were just following the lead of the Commander In Chief, Mr. rockstar himself, Barack Hussein OBama. LIBYA!

    November 9, 2012 at 6:04 am | Reply
    • givesuccess

      No they did it for money like Mits ....u b4 country/honor!

      November 9, 2012 at 6:15 am | Reply
    • Chris

      News Flash: Your guy lost the election! Get behind the commander in chief....

      November 9, 2012 at 6:17 am | Reply
    • duane

      will the commander tell us the truth??????

      November 9, 2012 at 7:22 am | Reply
    • duane

      Obama the socialist pig

      November 9, 2012 at 7:24 am | Reply
      • Chemical Castration®

        What kind of freakin name is 'duane?' Go back to your home country. Your goats miss you.

        November 9, 2012 at 10:05 am |
  36. James

    Disgrace the way our Gov't treats our best. No wonder why everyone in the world including our own countrymen hate the U.S.A. except for the welfare Obama babies !

    November 9, 2012 at 5:56 am | Reply
    • Tom Jones

      You are a traitor to your country.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:00 am | Reply
      • Mad at Nothing


        November 9, 2012 at 6:48 am |
    • jnpa

      Oh really? They should have received more punishment than that.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:19 am | Reply
    • Me

      If you don't like it get the heck out..

      November 9, 2012 at 6:35 am | Reply
    • Jake Grafton

      You couldn't be anymore incorrect. I am a US citizen and contractor working with German Navy, here in Hamburg. I travel often throughout Europe and Asia, and the people here have the upmost respect for Obama. Many people, that I work with here at NATO, were worried about Romney taking office. Why? Because Mitt lacks the intelligence to handle foreign policy. No doubt, Libya was a screw up but I'll take that instead of an all out war with Syria, and that's what Mitt wanted.

      The world as a whole, except some Arab countries, has a better respect of the US these days. Climb out of your hole and read an international paper. You remind me of the narrow minded people in my home town of Clarksville, VA. The election is over and we have a new Pres. I don't agree with all his policies but he is our Pres, and he was chosen by over 50%. Let's get behind him and make a country #1 again.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:45 am | Reply
      • Guedde

        Obama had a 58,720,700 (50.1%). You make it sound like it was well over 50% of the popular vote, like 51 or 52%. Also we don't have a new president, we have the same president for 4 more years.

        November 9, 2012 at 6:58 am |
      • Moderate

        "upmost" respect?

        November 9, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • SilverHair

      Get out of here.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:19 am | Reply
    • Chemical Castration®

      Zip your civilian lip before someone staples it shut. You nancy boys booing from the cheap seats make me sick. These SEALs were careless and maybe a bit greedy. It is their own fault.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:08 am | Reply
  37. moralright

    All I can say is unbelievable! I was a part of ASSOC and once, had these guys "Seals" come on board my aircraft for a joint exercise. Even asking the men what they would be doing aboard my aircraft, not a single seal acknowledged my existence or even looked at me as they went about there duties to prepare there equipment.

    There missions have always been and always will be secret. It is of the highest order by the DOD what they do. These Seals revealing classified info is a discrase and also, possibly a compromise to the security of future Seal team members and there missions.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:54 am | Reply
    • Jake Grafton

      Well put!

      November 9, 2012 at 6:48 am | Reply
    • common sense

      Agree with that!

      November 9, 2012 at 7:32 am | Reply
    • Hogan's Goat

      These SEALs were off-duty and didn't see this as 'classified info.' They blundered and will probably take their punishment and go into some related line of work, maybe even go Coast Guard or civilian security. But they broke a rule and justice demands they pay.

      November 9, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Reply
  38. topper

    lol you don't invest in a trained Navy SEAL and then send him home for something like this...And taking two months pay is nothing compared to what they got paid by the game company, that was the whole point.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:49 am | Reply
  39. Sean Soles

    This is ridiculous. These guys are the best this country has. I find it hard to believe there's an Officer in the Navy that'd be willing to file that LOR in such a way to adversely effect these guys Military careers! Do they deserve to be reprimanded if what is said is true, sure. They've got their right to appeal as it stands, and from this limited report it really sounds like a witch hunt. And oh yeah, I find it a bit hard to believe EA would have simply welcomed these guys crossing Navy regulatory lines in order to improve on something so trivial as the fatigues in the game, or to improve upon a story line that could be completely made up with the consumer knowing no better anyway. Doesn't add up.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:48 am | Reply
    • Saiko

      EA would do anything for money, so why not? This is in news all over the world (well, at least in USA and Europe), free publicity and all that.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:18 am | Reply
    • Michael Tobias

      An L.O.R is not transferable to other bases upon PCS... and it will not destroy there career. I have never heard of someone getting a forfeit of two months pay with an L.O.R but I guess it's possible. Even if these guys got a Article 15, which is worst, it still wouldn't destroy their military career. They would have to strip them of their rank and discharge them to really do damage to their career.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:31 am | Reply
      • Sean Soles

        The LOR can be filed into the Official Military Personal File under certain order- and there it stays unlike when filed in the Military Personnel Record Jacket which I'm pretty sure you were referencing. The former in theory being an issue with Navy Promotions when it comes to decisions made by Selection & Promotion Boards and recommendations made by Commanding Officers. I guess the Devil is really in the details there.

        November 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
  40. Serving

    These men should have known better. They have a responsibility to do what is right both ethically and morally. No excuses. Got it, they serve their country. A lot of men and women do. Got it, they are SEALs for DEVGRU. Bug deal. They aren't the end all be all of Special Operations and there are a lot of more capable and elite Commandos in the US military. That America doesn't hear about. Because they are THAT good. Because those guys get it.

    These men's choices are about pride and attention... which isn't what you should be focusing on. It is about self sacrifice. It is about something greater than yourself. It is about no one ever knowing or understanding and that being ok. It is about the job.

    These guys are poorly trained and educated. They are Frat Boys with guns. They lack leadership and military training that ensures they can handle their jobs with professionalism and maturity, more so than the average military service member. 6 moths of BUDs doesn't make you a warrior. and it doesn't make you right. Good on the Navy for holding them accountable.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:43 am | Reply
    • Dennis

      @Serving-- Let me guess, you washed out of BUDS right. Don't worry I know you won't admit it. Because I see nothing but animosity in your comment. Frat boys with guns??? Not hardly.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:25 am | Reply
    • Cecil

      Serving.......I'm guessing your that guy that showed up at Great Lakes Naval Base for boot camp and couldn't perform 20 pushup's ? Yep, I knew that was you! I got my fair share of pushing away Illinois because you were too weak to pull your own weight. Dennis gives you some respect by even saying you "washed out of BUD/s", however you and I both know you never touched the sand on Coronado Island. Do us a favor and not speak about a community you know nothing of.

      November 9, 2012 at 6:53 am | Reply
    • jb1111


      Obama set the tone with his White House Leaks to the New York Times for Personal and Political Gain immediately after bin Laden's Death!

      November 9, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
  41. aurelius

    So our national heroes are not different from any of us after all. Just as greedy and irresponsible.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:38 am | Reply
  42. FyrenP

    I am hard pressed to believe that EA wasnt aware of the loop and the fact that these guys were still in active duty. They just took advantage of the situation to get a leg up on the mountain called Actiblizzvison and failed on both ends. They have succeeded on driving MoH further into the ground.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:33 am | Reply
  43. Jon

    These guys were punished for doing the same exact thing the White House got away with. The movie Zero Dark Thirty was made using all the details about the equipment and tactics, and even the intelligence methods about a very specific operation, whereas this video game was made from stories told about several operations over the entire War On Terror, without going into specifics.

    I don't understand then how Seals who gave broad, non-specific information are punished for aiding in a video game can be punished so severely while leaks about the operation to kill Bin Laden, which were far more specific and damaging, are barely even investigated by this administration. It's sad and pathetic that the Bin Laden raid was made so political and highly sensitive information was allowed to be released simply because it made the President look good, where as the men who Actually put their lives on the line have their careers, nay, their livelihoods ruined because they helped design a video game with non-specific, generalized assistance to the developers.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:26 am | Reply
    • Truth Hurts

      The President of the US, not a SEAL or other Government Employee can classify or declassify information. That's why neither Bush or Cheney were impeached for releasing classified information to the NY Times to get the War in Iraq kicked off.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:43 am | Reply
    • Amir

      I think the article stated specifically that they showed their equipment that was then included in the video game. That's not broad, general information, it's showing exactly what they use in combat, something which an enemy would be very much so interested in. As they say, "Forewarned is Fore armed".

      November 9, 2012 at 5:47 am | Reply
      • ed

        them knowing the guns we use would make them bulletproof somehow, i guess.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:34 am |
  44. Obama-Bin-Lyin

    These aren't some of the same SEALS who were later murdered by Barry's failure to protect fhem in Benghazi, are they?

    November 9, 2012 at 5:16 am | Reply
    • lovemygirl

      CBS hid the fact that Dear Leader denied Terrorists attacked the compound in Benghazi…. The media hid the fact that our nation was dropped from the Global Prosperity rankings.…. The Administration also hid the fact that a U.S. Drone came under attack from Iran before the election….. So hush, hush, nudge, nudge, wink, wink…. Better keep this a secret too. Mmmkay?

      November 9, 2012 at 5:19 am | Reply
      • Howard

        Election's over. Deal with it, and move on, fer pete's sake.

        November 9, 2012 at 5:27 am |
      • topper

        No administration has ever told the public everything. Quit being nieve and acting like whiny loser. What does a drone getting shot at have to do with the election. Frankly who even cares. When your flying around over someone elses air space you better plan for it. And enough about Benghazi. ^%$% happens and amabassdors know the dangers. Personally i think he got alittle to comfortable with those people and let his guard down. Yeah we should have had more security there, but who cut the state department embasy funding by 300M? Oh wait a minute the house did.

        November 9, 2012 at 6:01 am |
      • jb1111

        Obama and his Cronies are Disgusting!

        The Organization is only as Strong and Professional as it's Leader.

        November 9, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Howard

      Election's over. Deal with it, and move on, fer pete's sake.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:26 am | Reply
    • david esmay

      They were working for the CIA, dolt.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:46 am | Reply
      • jtw218

        Actually, The CIA and SeALS work hand in hand in certain situations. CIA Officers usally are the ones who gather intel on the enemy and create the template for action, wether is be INTEL or elmination. They work together.

        But, when you sell your craft to an game publisher, you pretty much seal the deal and maybe your career.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • Hogan's Goat

      You mean the ones killed by Ryan's budget cuts? If not for good old Ryan saving the day, it might have been six men killed. Yay. Now stop believing the election blather, fool, none of this "Benghazi" stuff is anything but a last-minute attempt to smear the president. Grownups can see right through it.

      November 9, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
  45. komododr

    The problem is these people are still in active duty. If they want to consult with private industry or write a book they should get out of the service just like Mr. Bisonnette did. Now their careers are F*****. The best they can do is serve out their contract and get out. They probably did not seek legal representation and Electronic Arts took advantage of these guys.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:13 am | Reply
    • Howard

      In or out of the service, they have no right to disclose classified information. But hey, that's capitalism, right?

      November 9, 2012 at 5:24 am | Reply
      • jb1111

        The Leader sets the EXAMPLE, Joe.

        Obama sold out immediately after the death to the New York Times for his Personal and Political Gain!

        And it was all cover-up after that.

        November 9, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
  46. DennyT

    Clearly these SEALS in particular, weren't as smart as they thought they were.

    November 9, 2012 at 5:11 am | Reply
  47. rea

    Bradley Manning gets more than 900 days behind bars without trial for telling the world about US army violations, these guys give away secrets and get their pay docked

    November 9, 2012 at 5:11 am | Reply
    • Beef Sprocket

      The government doesn't like having it's own criminal actions exposed, thus the harsher punishment.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:26 am | Reply
    • Hogan's Goat

      "these guys give away secrets and get their pay docked" Secrets like "what have you got in your pocket" and "is that jacket lined with fleece?" are not as mission-critical as some of the stuff Manning revealed. You see that, right?

      November 9, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Reply
  48. joe

    man these navy seals seem like crappy people the first guy writes a tell all profit book, many openly disrespect their commander in chief, now we have them breaking secrecy for a video game!?, thank god we have obama to guide and fire these nuckleheads otherwise they'd prolly still be shooting stuff on the ranch. We need far more intelligent people to apply for military quickly

    November 9, 2012 at 4:56 am | Reply
    • cheeseroll

      I'd like to see you call a SEAL a "crappy guy" right to his face.

      Oh sorry, it's just all armchair talk. Why don't you just go back to stuffing your face with chips and watching the super bowl?

      November 9, 2012 at 5:12 am | Reply
      • lujiang

        What do you think will happen if he does that? They shoot him dead because they have guns he does not? That shows character, wisdom, and bravery? Freedom of speech means freedom of thinking, use your brains.

        November 9, 2012 at 5:28 am |
    • GI Joey

      Joe, what do you really know about the military? From your comment about needing intelligent people you are disrespecting every single one of us. And your prefered leader wants to cut our military down. Who really gives a damn if someone writes a book about something the rest of us want to know about? Go hug a tree and we will keep being soldiers.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:15 am | Reply
    • Jon

      Its ironic that you would say that more intelligent people need to join the military with such an ignorant comment. You liberal minded intellectuals have no understanding of the type of man it take to become a Navy Seal. Nearly every one of them has advanced knowledge in foreign languages, engineering, medical practice, and a high understanding of the political climate of their area of operation, and I promise their brainpower would trump your political opinions everyday of the week.

      Not to mention, these men are being criticized for releasing information? Why then don't you have the same outrage at the White House for allowing information about Bin Laden to be released? Christ, its been reported even on this website that the director and producers of the movie Zero Dark Thirty were given 'Unprecedented Access' to government information about the equipment, tactics and intelligence about the raid, and yet you don't share the same outrage for this administration as you do for the men who actually fight and die on the orders of this administration.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:36 am | Reply
    • Hogan's Goat

      "navy seals seem like crappy people" They are intently-focused and nearly fanatic about their missions, and as someone observed, they barely notice outsiders when they are on task. A lot of them are brilliant, most have good memories, and all have a violent streak. They are specialist soldiers, not lawyers or PR men, and they are still young enough to be flattered by attention when they aren't on a mission.

      November 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Reply
  49. neal

    To the Special Wafare community that is operating at this time, I would like to say thank you for doing your job knowing you are placing yourself in extreme danger every time that you have to deploy, you have a grateful person in hawaii that wanted to take the time to say thank you and job well done. I know that you are not looking out for glory but to yoyr jobs as well as you can. Without you out there protecting our backs I would have to kiss my a%% goodbye on SEPTEMBER 11,2001.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:47 am | Reply
  50. Chris

    Granted some things shouldn't be leaked and the SEALS should have known better, but I still want to play that game lol!

    November 9, 2012 at 4:42 am | Reply
  51. Paul Martin

    Sad that America's best of the best commandos who patriotically risk their lives in dangerous missions should be reprimanded and punished ! If they, in fact endangered the SEALs by disclosing data that actually betrayed their trust or could be used against future covert actions,etc then yes they should be on the carpet of their co,s but if they just, like any other free American merely desired to portray SEALs more realistically in a video game then no real harm done ! I am a former navy commander and big fan of the SEALs.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:38 am | Reply
    • Chris

      The rules are in place for a reason. You above all should realize just how slippery a slope this can be. They knowingly broke the rules and are therefore unfit to be Navy Seals. Again, it doesn't matter if no harm was done. There are rules in place, they knew the rules, they weighed all the outcomes of breaking the rules, they still broke the rules. End of story.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:48 am | Reply
      • MARTHA


        November 9, 2012 at 4:59 am |
      • Steve

        Martha I just hope you know what it is about.

        November 9, 2012 at 5:07 am |
      • Jeremy Ellis

        I did 12 years in the Navy as an OS and know a little something about disclosure. Also, I know SEALs and the gear that they use. These men should have gotten permission from brass to take on the role as a consultant, but believe it or not, the only classified piece of equipment SEALs carry....communication equipment. Now I can't talk about that because of the disclosure agreement I signed, but the NJP and LOR will not ruin their careers, they will just be closely scrutinised because mission capable operators are few and far between.

        November 9, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  52. Harold

    jajajajajaja los tachan de traidores por haber explicado como usaron una táctica de guerra para capturar y matar a Obama????? Estúpidos, no todos los enemigos de EEUU serán Obama...... y revelar una táctica en un juego no daña a nadie..... Ademas NatGeo ya explico todo lo que hicieron paso a paso obviando los "secretos" que fueron mas que obvios de entender.........

    November 9, 2012 at 4:38 am | Reply
  53. neal

    The reasons that the government had placed on the special warfare operation community is because they, meaning the United States Goverrnment from POTUS on down the chain of command, is because we DO NOT WANT THE ENEMY learning how our special warfare operators do their jobs. How would you feel if you told someone how you can get around the laws in how much $$$ you can deposit into your personal bank account without the the Government finding out? Then lets say that the person that you told had told other people your secrets to and made a pile of $$$$ using your ideas? How would you feel then? The Unite States has that right to protect the special operators by having them sign non-disclosures that the Navy makes them sig before they are even selected to join a very special brotherhood, of which nothing can be compared to in the real world. These operators know that they have been sworn to protect the nation using all availble means that are at availble at the time of need. I hope that the 7 operators realize their mistakes and take what ever punishment that the government thinks is warranted at this time. .

    November 9, 2012 at 4:37 am | Reply
    • sully

      Is that why they have shows like Border Wars and Airport Security or what ever?

      November 9, 2012 at 4:47 am | Reply
    • Paul

      Really Sully? You're comparing the TSA to Seal Team 6? Go to your room!

      November 9, 2012 at 5:04 am | Reply
    • Harvesting

      Then why did POTUS make a movie? Unless you think that decision came from the pentagon. Your entire statement is ironic considering the action of the Federal Government repamanding these individuals.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:37 am | Reply
  54. Cameron

    Whatever, these guys are heroes. I don't see how the information they shared with the rest of us hurts our nation in any way.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:35 am | Reply
    • M I Snow

      I fon't think the convern is about sharing information with the rest of this... I thinks it's about sharing information with the rest of "them"

      November 9, 2012 at 7:47 am | Reply
      • M I Snow

        ooops... should day "rest of us"

        November 9, 2012 at 7:48 am |
  55. Groo

    Anders Breivik trained for his ambush by playing World of Warcraft and COD. I seriously doubt any of the details going into their game are going to mess things up for SEAL operations. If you're determined enough to do something to hurt a bunch of people, you can do it. It only took 19 to shut this entire country down.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:29 am | Reply
  56. bugs

    Ok, pull the most elite fighting force in the world out of combat. That'll teach'em! Now send in obama, after all, he did kill osama, right?

    November 9, 2012 at 4:28 am | Reply
    • Crass

      Put a sock in it. The head of any organization – including the head of the country – always gets credit for what's accomplished under his/her reign, especially when they authorize the action.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:51 am | Reply
  57. Reticuli

    The game's already out and sucked to high heaven. Just another dumb shooter on rails. What on earth could they possibly have revealed that mattered at all? Seems like the military is overreacting. If the Pentagon had actually pressed charges against the guy who wrote the book, Obama would have lost the election. Seems timed specifically after the election for political reasons. I voted for Obama, but this makes me mad.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:25 am | Reply
    • kim

      Well,...they did show them their "official combat gear.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:31 am | Reply
    • Jason Martinez

      This is the problem with recruiting folks using the idea of Hollywood-like glory and fame (as a unit). In the past, Vietnam-era SEALs would not even talk to members of UDT (when both units existed together), or other Navy personnel, about their activities as they felt that OPSEC was most important. But, back then, it was understood that as a commando, your actions would not be celebrated. A potential recruit knew this and – if he agreed to such lifestyle – he'd continue on that journey until he'd make it to the teams. Today, with Hollywood profiting off commando/military exploits, video games, and all-around celebration of the difficult deeds performed by some commandos the services are using that mentality to recruit the new generation of replacements. The problem is that these new kids want to be recognized and celebrated and they enter the organization with that mentality. SEALs have been the most prolific offenders in this regard, but they are not the only ones, for sure. The problem in the SEAL community – even in its "ultra secret" special mission unit – is that they allowed for this "open" mentality for far too long and now, it is part of their organizational culture. Correcting this will have to occur, unfortunately, through punitive actions such as this. When SEAL Team 6's (DEVGRU) Army counterparts successfully "finished" Zarkawi, Saddam Hussein, Udei and Qusai Hussain, and a host of others, no one really saw this kind of silliness on the part of their operators. On the contrary, when Saddam Hussein was captured, credit was actually given to a conventional unit that owned the battle space.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:44 am | Reply
    • Gary

      This is likely the result of close scrutiny ordered by the President of the SEAL teams following what was perceived by the current administration as an attempt by the spec forces community to "swift boat" Obama. It follows the criticisms Obama received from the spec forces community after the Bin Laden assassination and the claiming of credit/leaking of details that resulted. This same CinC also just relieved the Middle East Command General and Fleet Command Admiral in retaliation for Benghazi. As a Navy submarine veteran I am appalled by these actions and shudder to think about the climate our military must operate and survive in today.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:58 am | Reply
      • Dave

        Republican partisanship is most shrill (thus funniest) in defeat. Four more years or comedy gold!

        November 9, 2012 at 7:22 am |
    • Jeremy

      The last 4 years wasn't enough for ya huh? You have no right to be mad about anything after what you've done...

      November 9, 2012 at 6:16 am | Reply
  58. SlavationArmyofOne

    This games going to be sick!

    November 9, 2012 at 4:21 am | Reply
    • Name*kim

      I'm thinking the same thing, bam!

      November 9, 2012 at 4:28 am | Reply
    • Mark

      Already came out well over 2 weeks ago.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:28 am | Reply
      • jdrake

        And it sucked

        November 9, 2012 at 5:05 am |
    • Dave Thomas

      Yes sick is exactly what I thought. But probably for a different reason.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:08 am | Reply
    • ed

      it definately made me throw up.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
  59. jaydee

    I dont think the government has anything to worry about- That game is not realistic at all--

    November 9, 2012 at 4:13 am | Reply
  60. bigfoot

    I guess they didn't hear the order to "stand down". Trading classified information for cash. Sounds like treason to me.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:10 am | Reply
    • Reticuli

      They didn't go through actual military court preceedings, so there was no adversarial process. It was "non-judicial", which essentially means unilateral and without ability to defend youself. Ending their careers without due process? Sounds bogus to me. The game was universally panned, by the way. I can't imagine what they could have added to it. The at-home drama between the slaughter?

      November 9, 2012 at 4:28 am | Reply
      • Dkelsmith

        They received NJP, and will end their careers. However, that doesn't mean they can't reenlist and they cannot retire. It just means that they will not get promoted and move up.

        November 9, 2012 at 4:49 am |
  61. Lewis

    Well that's a nice thank you for killing Bin Laden.. Thanks guys and you're fired! What a bunch of BS! Thank you for what you did for out Country. I for one will never forget it!

    November 9, 2012 at 4:07 am | Reply
    • kim

      Yep, that's a big .... You! So these guys made some extra $, big deal. These are smart men, fittest of the fittest, I'm sure nothing was leaked that is going to harm our country. And as far as bragging rights? These are seals, I'd certainly want to brag a little, who wouldn't?

      November 9, 2012 at 4:37 am | Reply
      • dafuq

        " All seven were given a letter of reprimand and their pay taken for two months."
        What part of this even indicates that they were fired? Making a lot about nothing.

        November 9, 2012 at 6:17 am |
    • Dave Thomas

      Well Levis they stop being 'heroes' when they sell their classified information for money. That, in case you didn't know, is called treason. They should be in jail since they broke the law. The job they did is the one they signed up for isn't it? If you don't want to risk your life for your career I suggest one not in the military.

      November 9, 2012 at 5:06 am | Reply
  62. SteelFist

    Is this Wikileaks? – nope. Is this Bradley Manning? – nope. Ohhhh it's just the Navy Seals !! – then everybody should chill out – these are the heros of the nation – they are just out to make money so what is wrong with that. They are just disclosing classified information that makes the nation look good – not exposing anything minor like killing off innocent civilians – so what is the big deal anyway???

    November 9, 2012 at 4:06 am | Reply
  63. Harry

    On top of the NJP (Non Judicial Punishment), I would imagine that they get their security clearances pulled. No security clearance = no job (at least at that level in the Service). I wonder if it ever occurred to any of them that divulging classified information could endanger their SEAL brethren in future operations. I guess the game was more important.

    November 9, 2012 at 4:05 am | Reply
    • Are You A Moron?

      We've already seen many cases of people being prosecuted for revealing "classified information" that was only made classified AFTER they revealed it.
      I suspect that's what happened here: none of these guys revealed anything important (probably just what the navy itself did for all the SEAL movies coming out lately), but someone in High Command had to make an example out of anyone they could.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:41 am | Reply
  64. Sharon

    The white house does more security leaks than the Seals.I for one say GO Seals!! I read No Easy Day. I did not see any classified information divulged. The only thing different was they(supposedly) shot a unarmed, downed man. I would have done that too. Ever since Benghazi I think the Seals have earned more money than they get. The government called they went....they called and were abandoned. In plain site of the government leaders who have no honor. No man left behind....that has changed so the standards for Seals need to change and they be allowed to profit from their careers.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
  65. Dave Thomas

    Two months at half pay? A civilian would be in jail for doing the same. More phony 'heroes' cashing in. Put em in prison where they belong.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:50 am | Reply
    • James

      Dave- Stupid people like you that owe their freedoms to guys like that should just learn to shout their mouth. " More phony 'heroes' cashing in".. You probably wouldn't be able to describe what a hero is.. Go sit on your couch and yell at your tv.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:23 am | Reply
      • Paul

        James, we still had our freedom before they got bin laden. Nothing has changed now that he's gone, other than we're happy about it. People still fear terrorism. It's a shame if you think the SEALS are heroes. I'm proud of them, but I wouldn't call them a hero. A hero is someone who makes a difference in someone's life, such as a teacher, a single parent, or a volunteer. If you think the SEALS are heroes, then your definition of a hero is very superficial and shallow.

        November 9, 2012 at 5:57 am |
    • sully

      Should Obama be put in prison for having front row tickets to the death of some former seals and an ambassador? It should go both ways, a seal asks for backup, maybe they should get some. Pentagon wants things sealed. Seals will help them out. However, someone isn't pulling their weight.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:57 am | Reply
  66. Observer1812

    Had they been civilians working for a Defense Contractor, they would've been fired and probably prosecuted. Recently a civilian was fired and prosecuted for lying on her clearance application. She hadn't even revealed classified information. So they got off easy.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:49 am | Reply
    • thinkb4utype

      It drives me crazy when people comment so matter of fact like they know what they are talking about. Contractors operate under a entirely different set of rules of engagement, shoot first then maybe ask a question. They are protected by the agreements between there company and military. Not even anywhere close to the amount of accountabily that U.S. Forces are held to, and they get paid about six times more.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:37 am | Reply
    • Gloria

      Of course she would be fired. Lying on applications is fraud. Even military servicemembers can get discharged for lying on enlistment applications etc. So I don't know why you're so surprised that soneone who commits fraud on clearance applications got fired.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:43 am | Reply
  67. Mark T.

    I wonder how much EA paid to have this story leaked to try to boost the sales of their horrible Medal of Honor series.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:45 am | Reply
  68. fedupwithla

    Do some deed for the government and then cash in. It's all about the money, isn't it? I am sure they felt that they were underpaid by their employer, just as everyone else in a government job does. And these are the people who vote for Obama.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:45 am | Reply
    • kirts

      And these are also the people who went into a dark house in the middle of Pakistan at night and nabbed Bin Laden. If that's what an Obama voter is, then I'll be writing in Obama for the rest of my life.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:30 am | Reply
  69. rick1948

    Sheesh – what the heck has happened to the SOF regarding intel security. I spent two decades as a special operator and NEVER talked to anyone outside of my comrades about any operation I was on – especially a friggin civilian.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:42 am | Reply
  70. Wasinthe Navyonce

    As long as they don't divulge the real classified much they can drink! lol

    November 9, 2012 at 3:42 am | Reply
  71. dirtybluefl

    LOL! What a bunch of lies.
    On the night of the Osama raid, the Pentagon released EVERYTHING about it. There were even 3D images on the news of how they cleared the rooms and killed targets. Within 24 hours we had learned they use STEALTH BLACKHAWKS and the procedures used to provide air cover while lifting for evac.

    Which leads me to believe the entire raid was a canned op for the government to use as a social steering device. But anyways, that was MUCH WORSE in scope than making sure some rope was on the correct side of a warriors back pack.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:35 am | Reply
    • thinkb4utype

      There is no such thing as a stealth blackhawk, that airfraime is far to old, maybe a comanche style airframe with more angled sides, but even analysts couldn't tell for sure due to them blowing the wrecked helo on site. Special Forces try out all the cool stuff first long before we see it.
      The newschannels were speculating on what analysts said was the most likely scenerio, not the White House, they still havn't released the images. People know what your saying before you type,

      November 9, 2012 at 4:46 am | Reply
  72. Patrick

    It's my understanding that the Navy SEALs are told going in that they are expected to be stoic warriors who remain largely unknown to the public. That there are many reasons for this, and that a majority of SEALs understand this. You are more akin to a silent hero, or a ghost warrior.
    However, it seems that with the popularity SEAL 6 has been given since Osama, a handful of SEALs are more interested now in fame, money and bragging rights. I can see why the Navy ends their careers. Not the kind of person they want for a amazingly elite force of warriors. The less you know about SEAL 6's members, the more nightmarishly intimidating they seem anyways, if you are on the wrong end of the USA's military arm.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:28 am | Reply
    • rdc8990

      @Patrick: You're putting way to much thought into this. There are two types of people that comment on these:

      1 – People who have boring day jobs, and come on the Internet to be Rock Stars
      2 – People that just come on poke fun at CNN, their stories, and the Internet Rock Stars.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:31 am | Reply
    • oh please

      Uh...EVERY dude Ive EVER met who claimed he "was a Navy SEAL" was this FAT PORKER of a mess working for barely over minimum wage
      why is it always the short fat guys who think they can convince you they were SEALs.. more like whales!

      November 9, 2012 at 3:38 am | Reply
      • ed

        because they couldn't afford a porche.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:26 am |
  73. Senior Chief Ret.

    So much for the "best of the best". Anyone who will trade thier honor and country for a paycheck should be thrown out with zero money and zero benne'si.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:25 am | Reply
    • Sharon

      Then all the politicians need to be kicked out and jailed

      November 9, 2012 at 4:00 am | Reply
      • ed

        was gonna say the same thing. "politician" should be a synonym for "dishonest"

        November 9, 2012 at 7:24 am |
    • Combat Application Groupee

      Look no further than, 1st SFOD-D for the best of the best. They don't brag like SEALs who think they're free to brag like their Navy flyboys. The main reason the SEALs were tagged for the OBL operation was because of aircraft carrier made it a maritime operation.

      November 9, 2012 at 4:38 am | Reply
  74. Brendan


    November 9, 2012 at 3:23 am | Reply
  75. David

    Spent a lot of time around these guys. Team six needs to end and the rest shipped to Coronado. Close the east coast ops.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:02 am | Reply
    • 2/8

      Suuuuuuure you in the cafeteria? Or did you just live within 30 miles of the base.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:16 am | Reply
      • Name*kim

        Lol.... That's funny stuff!

        November 9, 2012 at 4:23 am |
      • Dkelsmith


        November 9, 2012 at 4:54 am |
      • jj

        Stop it, your killin me.

        November 9, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • jtw218

      Actually, SeAL Team 6. Is not a Team as people think they are. I have heard many people say they "Worked with SeAL Team 6"

      Pretty Much SeAL Team 6, No one knows exactly who they are, because SeAL Team 6 was put in place to mislead the enemy on how many SeAL Teams there are, Anyone who says they "Worked" with SeAL Team 6 is a liar, flat out, no doubt about it are LIARS. Because even the SeALS Do not know what team they will go under, SeAL Team 6 is the best known, as they have had the most high Profile Missions, but other Teams have had great success. From 1980 Attempt to Rescus the Iran Hostages, to the Killing of Osama Bin Laden. I laugh at those who claim to have worked with SeAL Team 6, but no one else has worked with Seal Team 7, 3, 2, 1, 5, there is a reason that I have not put them in order.....But if you truly know SeAL Team 6, then you know the only true classification was MOB (Mobility Team) 6

      November 9, 2012 at 8:07 am | Reply
    • Starman

      East Coast Seals are the orginals.

      Also most of the Seal Teams think these guys got off easy.

      November 9, 2012 at 10:26 am | Reply
  76. Fill

    Wait, didn't the US government claim within the last several years that they wouldn't need the draft because they could encourage kids to enlist via getting them interested via FPS video games? And, no, I'm not being flip here.

    November 9, 2012 at 3:00 am | Reply
    • Patrick

      Don't think SEALs are allowed to talk about anything they do. Video game or not, their work is highly, highly classified I would imagine.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:21 am | Reply
      • Sharon

        Tell all this to the ass Joe Biden..he outed them.

        November 9, 2012 at 3:39 am |
      • ed

        their tactics are far from special. it's all in the training.

        November 9, 2012 at 7:21 am |
    • John W.

      You're not being flippant? So, you're saying that should give the SEALs a green light to break the law and illegally divulge secret information to a game manufacturer. Brilliant inference there, genius.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:24 am | Reply
      • joeyselene

        Why not. "Anonymous Sources" do it all the time with CNN. They just post it as anonymous sources tell us, due to the sensitivity of the issue

        November 9, 2012 at 3:28 am |
  77. Not career enders

    Quite hypocritical for the USN to pimp out the SEALs for Act of Valor, wouldn't you say? I thought AoV did a pretty good job of advertising SEAL TTPs and the like 😐

    And since when did a LOR end someone's career? If it was an Article 15, maybe, but let's be real nothing permanent is happening to those SEALs.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:38 am | Reply
    • Attention to Detail

      It said later in the article that they recieved NJP's.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:13 am | Reply
      • Dkelsmith

        A LOR or Article 15 are both considered NJP. They had the right to demand a trial by court martial. They probably went the route that would allow them to retire, or at least continue service until retirement.

        November 9, 2012 at 4:57 am |
  78. daftshadow

    they'll make more money being security consultants and/or consultants for the entertainment industry than being SEALs. not everything is about money but just putting it into perspective.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:37 am | Reply
    • Frank

      But, apparently, everything is about money to you.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:25 am | Reply
  79. James Peters

    I read CNN all the time, and I've got to say ... you guys need a few proofreaders.
    "To date there has been no further action toward the author, who wrote the book under the name Mark Bissonette." Huh? His real name is Mark Bissonette, and he wrote the book under the name of "Mark Owen", as you can see on the book photograph supplied with the article.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:30 am | Reply
    • Starman

      Truly amazing. It's a wonder anything works at all. Just get it out. No one pays any attention.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:47 am | Reply
  80. Joe

    Bad for the seals. Nice free publicity for Medal of Honor though.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:28 am | Reply
  81. Johnny American

    I want to buy this game.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:26 am | Reply
    • ed

      no. you really don't.

      November 9, 2012 at 7:08 am | Reply
  82. Rick

    Of all the games they picked, they picked Medal of honor? What a way to end your military career over a crap game. At least you could have shown off for battlefield 😛

    November 9, 2012 at 2:18 am | Reply
    • Johnny American

      Battlefield sucks. At least Medal of Honor tries to be different. Battlefield is just a lame rip off of Call of Duty, which is a rip off of Medal of Honor...

      November 9, 2012 at 2:27 am | Reply
      • steve

        Yeah right dude battlefield is way more than call of duty could ever be

        November 9, 2012 at 3:01 am |
      • Brandon

        Wrong. Call of Duty is a ripoff of Battlefield! Original Call of Duty came out October 2003, but Battlefield 1942 was a whole year earlier in September of 2002 both were set in WW2.

        November 9, 2012 at 3:14 am |
      • Steve F

        Real men play ARMA II anyway......

        November 9, 2012 at 3:26 am |
      • rdc8990

        Meh..... Crysis. Period. (And I DON'T mean the made for x-box version either).

        November 9, 2012 at 3:28 am |
      • Jim

        Warfighter uses the Frostbite engine which is the heart of Battlefield.

        November 9, 2012 at 5:54 am |
  83. Joe Mahma

    Weak-azz b!tches.

    November 9, 2012 at 2:16 am | Reply
    • Frank

      Says the fry cook at Wendy's.

      November 9, 2012 at 3:26 am | Reply
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