By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
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"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
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Instead of sanctions, Just use the Biden, he is so full of him self, I am sure Iran would be covered in S--t !
Yes. Let's send VP Biden to negotiate with the Iranians. That will definitely get them disoriented and blow themselves up.
Obama can apologize for the drone during his next visit to the middle east
Obama will hand the technology over to the Iranians.
No worries guys ... The Iranians are using technology from the Chinese companies ... that bought parts from Mormon Bishop Mitten's VULTURE CAPITALIST ventures.
It may be the first time CNN reported it but CNN didn't break this story.
it actually did .. sucker
Republicans in angry mode today for some strange reason.
🙂
What Republicans?
It's time for the Rhinos to collapse their sorority and a new party arise that actually seeks to protect "The American Form of Government".
Stop blaming BUSH!!
Did Benji Netanyahooo phone his best buddy Mormon Bishop Mittens yet that the red line has been crossed?
What will you do now that Mormon MItt isn't running for President any more.
Perhaps you can turn your vial hatred and bigotry toward Harry Reid.
And perhaps you could take a moment to learn to spell "vile," genius.
Your usual idIotic post.
The sooner we get off of fossil fuels the faster we can ignore this insane Iranian regime.
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Or... the sooner we develop our own abundant fossil fuel deposits instead of living in some pipe dream of green energy, the sooner we can break our international energy dependency.
Get out of their region, and it won't happen.
It was in international air space, not Iranian air space. And stop being naive. Every country needs intelligence, especially on a country that is building nuclear weapons.
Since when is it their region?
This is what happens when you have a weak, worthless leader in the white house. The n1gger must go.
Funny ... I swear this RICH OLD WHITE GUYS have lost to this BLACK COMMUNITY ORGANIZER ... TWO TIMES now!
The latest RICH OLD WHITE GUY to lose was a former VULTURE CAPITALIST CEO.
Hmm... I guess these RICH OLD WHITE GUYS much be dumber than this BLACK COMMUNITY ORGANIZER!
LMAO
Thank you, Alan. Your post above just proves how very much racism in this country is both well and alive. We should have elected Ron Paul President and that's all there is to it! How dumb the general public is!
What a stupid comment! The fact that Obama has been elected twice now (and only because of WHITE PEOPLE), shows that the only racism that exists in this country is in the minds of you Leftists who think black people aren't smart or talented enough to compete against whites and Asians.
U.S. need to break away from this England empire and place emphasis on becomming a country instead of corporate U.S.A. Those that keep exposing their racial prejudice is only confirming their biggest fear, according to geneology the dominate genes will be the majority as time goes on; remember, Hitler suffered from that same sickness. Now would America like it if another country sent drones 18 miles off their coast, hell no! U.S. has enough bombs and technology that would any country, outside Isreal, attack them. The wealthy make billions off wars with no sympathy for life, and will continue doing so just as long as they fools that hate one another because of skin color and religion. I've always wondered what would the zoos be like if all the animals awaken and realized that so-called nature habitat which they exsist is only an illusion?
U.S. need to break away from this England empire and place emphasis on becomming a country instead of corporate U.S.A. Those that keep exposing their racial prejudice is only confirming their biggest fear, according to geneology the dominate genes will be the majority as time goes on; remember, Hitler suffered from that same sickness. Now would America like it if another country sent drones 18 miles off their coast, hell no! U.S. has enough bombs and technology that would any country, outside Isreal, attack them. The wealthy make billions off wars with no sympathy for life, and will continue doing so just as long as they fools that hate one another because of skin color and religion. I've always wondered what would the zoos be like if all the animals awaken and realized that so-called nature habitat which they exsist is only an illusion? Peace
You are truely pathetic.
Yeah, but you don't hate him because he's black right? Love all the people claiming they hate him because he's a bad President but then call him racial names. You've sure made a point, just not the one you thought you were.
Wow! You must have a high school education because it seems like you know a lot and you have a way with word.
Ignorant.
You had your chance to express this and democracy has shown that you are and your racist ways have been defeated.
that figures...nice..you're a smart guy–i can tell
Go burn on your lawn cross
You are a true Republican. You prove why all OB haters hate OB.
Israel needs to grow some nuts, I'm sick of the USA having to police the world.
Has Mormon Bishop Mittens done a press conference yet?
Hey, didn't you watch cnn this week? Your guy won! Don't hold your breath waiting for a press conference from Obama though. He has more importanat matters to attend to (The View, Saturday night live, etc).
.We do NOT send manned jets to guard drones. Come ON PEOPLE, drones are used to PREVENT an attack on our good people. The way you Ttards talk, YOU would rather an AMERICAN PILOT LOSE HIS LIFE, so to start a stupid war. Get with it LOSERS,.....YOUR VIEW IS NOT SHARED WITH A MAJORITY OF CITIZENS.
That Iranian jet was made by one of Mormon Bishop Mitten's Chinese companies.
Thank you Mormon Mitt for not letting the Chinese have quality technology.
Obama, on the other hand, has been giving the Chinese the real deal.
Mormon Bishop Mittens sold the Chinese Iranian companies the scrap parts from the many US companies Mittens destroyed and sold for parts! I bet those jets are using steering wheels from Delphi too! LMAO
Etch A. Sketch – So those Russian made Jets have U.S. aircraft parts? How did Russia get hold of those parts from the U.S. to build those jets? Jimmy Carter?
Su-25 is a ground attack plane, not a fighter. Plus, Predator drones have been shot down in the past by Iraqi MiG-25 fighter jets.
So what?
i do not buy this story at all, i think it was an israel drone, and iran knew it.
Perfect. Lets send the Iranians more decoys.
We should be hearing more about things like this since the President has more flexibility to be derelict.
Why is this news? They make nukes, hit them, makes sense. You go into others den, you get hit.
You apparently didn't read the article.
Firing at a drone 16 miles from your coastline is not "Iranian military aggression." That is defending your country.
Launching a drone halfway across the world is a US act of war, the definition of "military aggression."
Did you read the part that said "...international airspace..."?
I think you'd be signing a far different tune if it were an Iranian, Chinese or Russian drone 16 miles from the US coastline and a US fighter had fired upon it.
Move to mexico idiot.
How about you go first and let us know how it is?
Please re-read the article: "The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait," it was unarmed, and doing maritime surveillance. That is not an attack. That area is the oil tanker shipping sea lanes.
No act of aggression by the US.
Um.....ok.....breath...in, out. in, out. Your brain obviously needs to focus on simpler things.
And since international law recognizes that anything outside of 12 miles is international waters, you come to the conclusion that this is "defending your territory" how, exactly?
I wouldn't be "singing a different tune." The Russians have planes and ships just outside US maritime borders all the time.
Wow , they didn't wait a week before they instigated a false flag event to justify attacking Iran .
Does anyone remember Haiti?
Honestly it's happening faster than I would have expected but you're dead right.
Agreed.
Operating an unarmed drone in international waters is a false flag event? You better look up look up the meaning of "false flag", then learn to understand the idea of proof, of which there is none.
I guess they weren't worried about our new commander-in-chief giving them a good talking to. They had better watch it, or they'll force him to give them a finger shaking they won't soon forget.
ROFLMAO! Too bad he will be the death of America and everyone here. At least all the college students will have their marijuna legalized and all the women that voted for the dolt can die with their brest implants.
Couldn't agree more Kelly51. Funny how this news hits *after* the election. If it happened before, more idiots might have been forced to vote for a man that might actually lead the country, instead of voting on the basis of which candidate knows the cast of Jersey Shore and has a cool playlist on his iPod.
@tiki64 – No kidding. I feel like I'm a cast member in the Truman Show. Life isn't real anymore, we're just living a reality series.
Breast implants? Mind enlightening us on where that came from and how it's relevant? Or is that just the only thing on your little mind?
Where you do get the idea that all Obama will do is shake his finger? He had Bin Laden killed and launches illegal drone strikes constantly. Trust me, his capacity for using deadly force over there is taken far more seriously than you apparently realize. Don't let your ignorance and slavish devotion to right wing talking points blind you to reality. Do a little research and come back and post when you know what the hell you're talking about, ok?
We're at the mercy of BHO. We're all going to die! We're going to get blown up and die!
The n1gger hates America...
Alan, you're a racist POS. Sadly, I'm sure you're somehow proud of that.
Has Obama apologized for this yet?
That'll be tomorrow.
...the election is OVER..........ya Ttard.............
We're still working on the impeachment. I hope you're happy with what's his name with the false teeth.
Our wimp in chief did not have the guts to shoot these aggressors out of the sky. We should insist under congressional oversight to know if obama hesitated or did not defend our international rights to defend ourselves.
You, the 50 percent of idiots who re-elected this moron should be ashamed at this continued wimping out by obama, the embarassment in chief
maybe you have a trillion in your pocket for another war,but the country doesn't
Obama has Trillions to spend, or at least he thinks he does, hypocrite
Yeah, lets start a war over a drone being shot at...no wonder we are going to have a WW3, people like you....
Depending on the direction and speed of the drone, Iran may not have been the aggressor. Technically.
Killing solves everything...we tried that in 1953 and Iran acquired a Shaw.
No wonder you're Outraged. You can't come up with anything more creative than that POS post?
Anybody with 50% of a brain wouldn't start a war over an unmanned drone. I mean, c'mon you knuckle dragging hick, think for once.
yea calling names on the internet makes you look cool! These drones are slow and not going to out maneuver a Suu-25. And how is this aggression by us? International waters means anyone can be there. You cannot attack someone in international water either.
"Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an UNARMED U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf"
Thank you, Phunnie boy. Spoken like a true warmongering, hateful, weak minded Tea Partier! The only aggressors here are our cursed drones which appear to be everywhere like a very bad dream!!! Then again, if the Iranians did succeed in shooting down this cursed aircraft, the right-wing thugs in Washington will have yet another excuse to start another obnoxious war over there!!!
Hi George, you sound like a mean little lefty yourself with an axe to grind.
Take your meds and chill you sore looser. how about we get out of the 10 plus year war we are in before cranking up another.
I hope you're not able to breed.
how do you tea party republicans plan to pay for another war ? the USA capital one credit card got maxed out in Iraq.
The same wimp that sent in navy seals into a foreign country without their knowledge to kill Bin Laden, and the same wimp that increased the use of drone strikes to kill Taliban targets inside Pakistan. The administration refusal to retaliate prevented another war in the Gulf. You are an idiot.
LOL I Love It How U Guys Blame Everthing On Obama. Face It!!! He's Your Presidents.. LOL Move To Canada We're Not Gonna Miss You. This Is Our Country Now.
No! Canada does not welcome the extremist views of some of these republicans. . . you guys need to take care of these idiots.
fishman – don't like your new president ... move.
Yup Let's start another war.
May be it is because of war-hungry aggressive idiots such as yourself 50% of Americans didn't vote for Republican party.
An unarmed drone flying in international airspace isn't worth going to war over even if shot down. You armchair Republican warriors just can't get enough can you. I've seen enough suffering due to Bush and his personal wars.
Outraged!
Sorry! Take heart..but wait! You are calling all your household moron! No respect for your parents...Get over it! Re-elected President is there for 4 more years. Time to change direction and support him to help you out, or relocate to another planet or country. And stop crying baby bitterly outraged.
Killing the Iranian pilots is a disproportionate response and an escalation. And using pejoratives to describe POTUS is adolescent. Respect the office if not the holder of the office.
Just like my 8 year old, cant concentrate He lied. It does not matter what people say about him when acts. He should be above it. He is the boss.
Ahhh yes, the elections are over! Now we can feed the war machine! Mass propaganda as we beat the war drums!
This was always on the schedule to take out Iran – wake up ragtop 😉
No crap bobby! Just so convenient that they wait till after the election to disclose it. No matter who won the election it would be the same delayed reaction With no need to campaign and to win the election, they can move forward with no delays!
I would be upset if I was Aqmed Dinnerjacket. "My fighters can even bring down a piston engine, unmanned plane"
This is stupid! OF COURSE Iranian jets fired on the drone!
So........if there were Iranian drones flying over Washington, NORAD wouldn't shoot them down?
BD
International waters DUMB-DUNB 😉
Did you read the part that said "...international airspace..."?
Ah, but where was it coming from? Did it just come Iranian airspace?
Did it just come from Iranian aispace?
Well, Number 1 no matter how tight you wind the rubber band, Thier drones won't make it to the United States!!! So we don't have to worry about shooting them down!!!
International waters for sure, but then for what? It is like, I throw the stone and break the glass, and say, the stone broke the glass.
i think your the stupid one sonny!! did you even read the article??? guess not, cause the drone was said to be in international airspace, not in iranian airspace!!!yes if they were over washington shoot um down(as if ever that will happen!!) but being in internatiotnal airspace and they shoot at you then ,well, what part of that dont you understand??
Well, Number 1 no matter how tight you wind the rubber band, Thier drones won't make it to the United States!!! So we don't have to worry about shooting them down!!! They will never cut the mustard in a battlefield situation!!
Read "unarmed maritime surveillance drone".
Move along, troll.
Arm The next Raptor and let it fight back!! Lets see how good there pilots are!!!!! Me thinks there will be two planes down off the Iranian coast !!!
No need to think about it...It would be a given...But Alas, Obama and Gates stop production of the greatest weapons platform EVER..So must baby what we have I am guessing...BUT have you checked out China's "F-22" wonder how many they are going to build??
A Raptor is not a fighter and can't be flown like one. So even if it was armed, it would still get shot down.
Sorry, I meant Predator not Raptor.
Hey CNN, we don't need another war!
Of course the Iranians fired on the drone. They knew it couldn't fire back. It's the only way they can win an engagement in the air.
And they couldn't even hit the drone.
The Su-25 is about as much of a fighter jet as an A-10 Warthog is. Way to research, CNN.
It 's getting very close now for the USA to kick Iranian booty.Yes the election is now over and finally time to erase those evil pests - God Is Great 😉
Please sign up, I'd love to see YOU on the front lines.
Convenient timing.
..and the US would not fire on an Iranian drone if the roles were reverse?
Hypocrites, imbeciles, and arrogant swine dominate these boards.
At least we would hit it.
12 miles is 12 miles, Sunshine.
You are the swine on this board Tony (AJA Ragtop)
Actually, the swine are the Warpigs.
Many countries observe more than 12 miles. If an Iranian plane or drone was 13 miles off Maryland or LA or New York it would be shot down very quickly. We've been through this millions
What hell are they doing off the coast of Iran with a drone half a world away?
IN.TER.NA.TION.AL AIRSPACE....So What...Life Continues (Obama Adm.)
Did you read the part that said ... on routine maritime surveillance ...?
Protecting a major shipping lane that boarders other countries in international waters??? I am tired of tools that rape underage women and think that they are tough. I hope the Chinese teach Iran a lesson!
Congratulations Scotty, you posted the dumbest comment on this forum today. Come collect your prize.
Spying on Iran it is funny how we say it was in international waters like it was just passing by and not sneaking in and out of their airspace spying on them .
This was almost an act of war...however when we flew our drone into Iranian airspace and they shot it down....it wasn't an act of war and we had every right to ask for our drone back : D
Funny how shooting down a lifeless, soulless vehicle would be an act of war... Anything to make war, I guess...
Yes, Go Iran.
Yes, I ran. PLEASE GO.
Its very telling that the Iranians couldn't shoot down an unarmed, unmanned drone. I wonder if those pilots are on bathroom cleanup duty tonight.
Also, I laughed out loud when the US response was that their drone wasn't in Iranian airspace. What else could it have been doing in the area?
No, Thats where they get thier pilots, If They can hit the commode, They make them a fighter pilot!!!
No one said they COULDN'T. The article says they DIDN'T. funny how you people read the news...
Our great leader will just Blame Bush. Pathetic.
Boo Hoo! Another sore loser with a big mouth and a small brain.
Well mylife55 the big mouth and the small brain are the losers who re-elected Obama for a second term knowing that he is ruining this countries freedoms. Well rothrules, Obama already lied to American people over the Libya mess.
Another moron who figured out how to use the internet, oh joy
Yeah... Bush would of started another war over it and lie to the American public by saying he was defending US soil!
let us keep misleading the nation.
Finally!! Now the oil investors will have a reason to run up the price. Bend over America, the investors are coming and they are goind to do us all up the butt!! Oil will jump $10 tomorrow.
No worries. We got Obamas Energy Plan. SOLYNDRA
Really Or its just a paid news by Zionazis ?
Yes, it was Zionazi's. Jeez. What a dweeb.
NICE TRY CNN..............................FOX HAD THIS NEWS ON IRAN AN HOUR AGO................................YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST TO AIR IT..............
At the top of the page it says this article was posted at 2pm EST, so if CNN is not lying then they did indeed air it before fox.
Big Deal!
This reminds me of a news piece I did for CNN back in 1990. It was basically some fake propaganda garbage like most CNN pieces, but unfortunately we were on a live satellite feed to anyone with a C-band dish. Oops. If you want to watch the clip of me making some fake CNN 'news' go to YouTube and search for 'Charles Jaco', it's a real eye opener.
*Note I am not actually Charles Jaco but it's funnier this way.
Obama is a spineless coward. He won't do anything. We're screwed, America.
Fortunately, not quite as screwed as you are...
You mean, besides ordering the assassination of Osama Bin Laden in foreign territory?
You mean the Bin Laden that had already been dead for ten years?
Turn yourself clockwise... in other words go screw yourself.
Let's see, Obama lied and the press let him. What else is new? Pass the beer nuts.
First, I have a simple question. Why in the HELL was the drone unarmed? And why is our military sitting on info for political conveinence? Never fear folks, Mr. Putin will make BHO his Slave, before this is over!
Iran hacked 1 drone already, do you really think it would be wise to send up armed ones over the most vital water way in the developed world?
If it was armed, do you think shooting down an Iranian aircraft would have been an appropriate, and well thought out response?
There is help for you condition... I suggest you seek some.
This line said it all...
"The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran."
Not only are viewed as weak – we are irrelevant.
Obama is working on an apology.
Your severe lack of sense is worrisome.
Yeah, let's see how crow tastes, when on their next encounter the drone blows the two jets into oblivion.
Obama is probably working up an aid package for Iran now to pay for the expenditure of ammunition and therapy for the pilots who missed.
What should have happened is they fired on us, we send up a flight of fighters who splashed them, end of story. No escalation, but they fired first.
You guys are idiots, if a war starts, Iran can close the gulf, at least temporarily. How do you think that will affect the world economy, being that most of the worlds oil travels through there. Typical armchair grunts, no brains, all talk.
All the more reason to treat them fairly and with justice. I'd hate for America to have to stop exporting oil (which we do)
got a trillion in your pocket to pay for another war?
No obama took it to force me into buying health insurance that i cant afford and i think we sent the rest egypt and israel.
Considering we helped over throw their democratically elected government in the 1950's, Helped Saddam Hussein in his war of aggression against them, have enacted crippling economic sanctions against them, have been illegally overflying their country for years with our spy planes, helped create electronic attacks on them,and have given tacit approval for Israels assassination squads to go after their politicians and scientists ...can you really blame them for being just a little bit hostile and paranoid when we get to close to their shores?
Iran is doing everything possible to divert its attention somewere else for better progress on its nuclear goals. they are at that red line and expect them to do more so Obama administration will blink for just a moment and then its on with the nuclear test fire at Isreal. And then what wait a few days condemn them and do an investigation, like in Bengazi like a whole list of other attacks on US interest and service members. No Country is gonna listen to talk or sanctions. REMEMBER PAIN EQUALS COMPLIANCE WORKS EVERY TIME. Lets get in get done get out regroup and assist from abroad, no occupation just force cooperation for humanity
BS. Iran allows inspections of its nuclear sites in compliance with the nuclear non proliferation treaty. They are not looking to build a nuclear bomb.
HAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*sniff* *cough* heh that was a good one. You really had me there for a while *snorkle*
Sarcasm noted, I hope.
If Iran is smart enough to build a nuclear bomb, they're smart enough to know that shooting it at Israel is a sure-fire way to turn Tehran into a glass parking lot.
Just like the US-USSR arms race, having nukes will greatly increase Iran's position in the middle east, and of course they would never actually use it. But unlike US of the 1950's, Israel has the firepower to put a stop to it.
Repubturds will start a war in a blink of a eye even if they have to use lies to do it. GWB invading Iraq was a prime example. Repubturds are war mongers and domestic terrorist. Party of scare tactics.
I doubt everything we are reporting.
I'm sure they were in Iranian air space.
Buncha dang liars.
Just because it has turned out that way 99 out of the last 99 times doesn't make it a lie this time. At least not to the warmongers who are still in denial of the last 99 lies.
I wouldn't doubt this whole story is a complete fabrication.
So, we are monitoring Iranian's reaction with provocative actions and want to find out how quick they can respond. Now we have collected that data and we can modify our next action. These sorts of careless and short sighted maneuvers will have greater consequences than most people can comprehend. This is not a Xbox game, people will die.
What are we doing off the coast of Iran with a drone half a world away is very clear. No one other than American population who needs more entertainment continuously would like to see some sort of hostility to break between Iran and US, as if it is a new game or a Movie to watch every night. There should be a total condemnation of our provocation against Iran. We have threatened the Iranians continuously and we have disregarded their legitimate rights. We have backed the Zionists and threaten the Iranians with bombing and other means including economic warfare. So, if Iran plans to defend herself don't be surprised your sons and daughter who are pawns in this scenario to get hurt.
Get real.
You do realize that we are about to go to war with Iran over their nuclear program? Obama promised as much as he said he would not tolerate them having nukes and Iran has made it clear it will obtain them. Our military is in the region and the presence will only get larger.
BS. Iran has consistently, from the mullahs down, denied it is seeking a nuclear bomb. Had it wanted one, it could have gotten one from the ex soviet blocs.
That is the point. We have no ground to stand on. IAEA inspectors have been in Iran and are still in Iran. The Iranians have signed the NPT long time ago. No smoking guns have ever been found. So, you are saying we can just go and bomb them??! What does International law and UN has to say about that? Pakistan has 100 of nuclear bomb missiles, Jews have twice as much, India has just as much and North Korea is still there. You think if Iran wanted to have a bomb yesterday they could not have come up with one as poor Pakistan did?
Get real.
So they are making bomb grade plutonium just because?
To David Driscoll,
Who says they are?! That is exactly the propaganda that is fed to the American Audience. IAEA has inspected Iranian nuclear program for over 25 years, the longest in that agency's history and NO smoking GUN has ever been found. The highest the Iranians enriched Uranium is 20% which is used in Teheran's Medical Isotope facility. They asked France to supply the Isotope rods but we stopped them from delivering it.
Get real.
You believe all what the gov't. tells you?
@ muse1876
The question is DO YOU?!
Pull your heads out of the sand and concentrate. This is now. The point still is we are constantly mislead and lied to for political gain. What is scary is that the media is silent with Obama. Do you not understand how dangerous this is? What happens when your man or anyone else has this power? Please think about this rationally people. It is not a partisan problem. I do not hate Obama, but I also do not let my kids do anything they want just because I love them.
I couldnt agee with you more...just like the 20 or so companies that have issued lay off notices within 48 hours of the election....all to protect who...OBAMA!
As far as I'm aware, our govt. has no obligation to release frivolous information. When/If the govt. fails to release information that could directly negatively affect you personally, then you can get upset. Not being told that another country fired on and missed an aircraft that if brought down would have resulted in no loss of life, is none of your concern.
So let me see, President Obama was informed about this last week before the election but kept it from the American People?
he is a dem. what do you expect. if he would of told the public before the election that might have hurt the chance of re-election. But he is very cool and down to earth leader touches the heart of the american people. we are being bulldogged in the biggest way from russia china and middle east we are a weak nation right now and the world knows it
I wouldn't believe anything from the news media these days. The international jewish organizations are all they are.
Last time CNN proudly reported a News about how bravely Israelis destroyed a unarmed foreign drone, Why does CNN has different standards, they are totally in the pockets of Zionazis and report whatever they can to help Zionazis in Israel and America.
Are they sure it was not a mob angry over a video?
Obama is a man of peace and won the Nobel Peace Prize. HE AIN'T GONNA DO A D*MNED THING ABOUT IT!
Would our response to Iranian drones in the Gulf of Mexico be any different?
Yes we would not fire upon it because it was in International waters...Just like when the Russians had their Sub in the gulf Just two months ago
Cdogg you might be speaking German right now if we let people like you run things. If you don't want to live here in a Superpower country then move. Or the next regime will enslave you.
Yes, it most certainly would be. International airspace is free for any nation to use. The fact that you would even ask just highlights how clueless you are as to the laws that govern interactions between nations.
Suprises that haven't fired on us before,since they have no fear whatsoever of our DEAR LEADER in the White House.
Gotta love the TeaBillies:
"The entire Media is againest us ... one big commie plot by Rupport Murdoch and General Dynamics, which own 75% of US media". Gotta watch those military defense firms and right wing Austrailians, they are really secret liberals.
"Obama isn't from here – he is an alien from outer space. Squak squak. Wheres his birth certificate"
"Rape is ok, God approves"
"The drone was really just on a peace keeping mission in Intl waters. And the one 2 weeks ago that Iran shot down in the middle of its country was really a fake – the Iranians were lying also".
"47% of Americans are losers, and they'll lie and cheat also. All of them"
"Lance Armstrong didn't do it – one big conspiracy by 25 unrelated atheletes, about 100 scientists. Even the drug testing firms were being paid off".
"God created earth 9000 years ago. All of those dinosauer bones are fakes, since there NEVER were dinosaurs."
Yep, life is one big conspiracy ... everyone is out to get us poor TeaBillies.
Better than AL GORE who invented the Internet.
internets
Sly, are you having problem with that one brain cell of yours? Try three in one oil, I hear that will reduce friction.
Sly, I think the wheels are coming off your bus.
"Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf last week, CNN has learned."
When did CNN first "learn" of it? And why did it take a week to make it public?
Nice the president decided not to disclose, where is our open transparent government?
What if an Iranian drone was flying around Pittsburgh? Or Atlanta? or Langley? How would we know if it's unarmed or not?
How long would it last? How come the jet planes couldn't catch up" to this propeller driven drone? There is something fishy about this story. Blaming Obama for not responding when someone shoots at a spy plane is pretty idiotic.
lol how dare iran defend it's sovereignty from a foreign spy drone! can you imagine the response if iranian warcraft were over NYC?
Did you read the story? The incident took place more than 12 NM from the Iranian coast. That's international airspace over international waters. Please try to be at least moderately informed before you post.
I find it very sad that so few people are concerned that the government withheld this information until the elections were over. How much else are they hiding? We know they are still looking for a fall guy for Libya
Yeah... we want to know about the aliens they got stashed at Area-51 🙂 What they're in Gitmo...OK... nevermind! 🙂
Iran's best jet fighter pilots shoot at a slow moving drone and can't hit it? The only thing worse is if the drone returned fire and took them both out with only two shots.
Obviously, they had no intention of shooting it down. They acted to prevent it entering Iranian airspace, and apparently they succeeded in that.
Remember the last debate? Mitt does not even know Iran has a coast. Don't expect any president to tell us every military incident as soon as it happens. That's his and the military's job to handle it, not ours. Just thank your lucky stars we have a president that at least knows where Iran is.
Too bad the President didn't know Pennsylvania is not in the midwest. Oh yeah, didn't catch that one during the last debate did ya?
false flags and false reports
I find it sad that very few posters are concerned that this information was withheld till the election was over.
Hey, as long as they get their government check on the 1st, it's all the same to them
Who cares?? What difference would it make? None whatsoever. If President Obama would have allowed it to be releasedhe would gave been blamed for trying to instill fear in the American public as bush did during his election. I don't think it should have been released at all. Its a SECRET surveillance mission. & I dont believe most civilians have that security clearance
Iran has jets?
We have some very stupid psychos in our government if they actually believe a military strike on another country is justified because they shot at one of our spy drones. If one human being is lost in a retaliatory military strike I would vote to convict whoever gave the damn order guilty of crimes against humanity.
This was TOTALLY expected...Romney looses the election... dual Israeli agent and Romney Supporter Mel Sembler and Sheldon Adelson loose their opportunity to launch Gulf War III...and CNN (pretending to be a news organization) immediately begins broadcasting propaganda on behalf of Israel. Look at it this way...if Iran attempted to fly a drone armed or otherwise over any Western power...we would definitely shoot it down... so why are you having a problem with this? If Iran was Florida, they could cite the "stand your ground" law....if you don't want to get shot at..then don't fly your spy aircraft within gun range...even the Rednecks in Alabama have been know to shoot at U.S. military helicopters who like to buzz their cattle for sport...CNN please evolve or get out of the news business and join up with Fox Noise propaganda channel...
Do you know the difference in meaning between loose and lose?
Wow, before posting here please do some research. What part of "international airspace" do you not understand? The drone was in the Persian Gulf. Iran does not own the Persian Gulf and was closer to our ally Kuwait, not Iran. We have every right to fly aircraft in that region to observe shipping lanes, which is exactly what we were doing.
Iran's best fighter pilots shoot at a slow moving drone and can't hit it? It's a good thing the drone wasn't shooting back.
whites vent. Its oK cause u lost. LOL – Pres Obama is the man. suckas.
Martin Luther King will slap your face if he was alive. Obama is black but blacks only stand with the truth. A true black will accept if Obama was wrong. Who the sucka taught you this ignorance?
Dont make it racial saliera, Whites voted for Obama also, I dif
I wish it had been racial because if 93% of whites had voted for Romney like 93% blacks voted for Ob we would have a new president. Talk about what race is racial. I think it is clear.
America lost, I feel sorry for your lack of intelligence.
I voted for Obama and I'm a white male....
Most of you are missing the point. Once again incredible information was hidden by Obama and the media.Yes we have been attacked before but never before has there been a willfully intent to mislead an entire country. All this for politically calculated gain. And no one questions it. I don't want to live like Russians or Chinese.
I can't believe you said that. "Never before has there been a willful attempt to mislead and entire country"
Dude, it has happened prior to almost every war we have ever been involved in. Don't you remember even as far back as Iraq?
I am offering every Democrat a Tin Foil hat with Obama TV antenna with in built headphone and a pair of 'Blame George Bush' wrist bands. The PRO version of the Tin Foil hat has an electric shock sensor which will remove all the truth by transmitting electric signals into the brain and kicking the truth away from your brain. The pro version costs 5$ because we have taxed a carbon tax on it because it uses electricity. We expect you to live in caves and be environment friendly.
Since its Christmas, we are offering our warm 'WINTER FESTIVAL GREETING' card with a $1000 dollar stimulus money from our printers in the Federal Reserve to you as well. If we say "MERRY CHRISTMAS", it will offend the muslims. The President sends his apologies and we are working on an upgraded version of electric sensors that will stimulate your brains to be a muslim.
I wonder how many of the comments here are the product of the US military's social media project designed to spread pro-American propaganda? Would be interesting if they released exactly the number of military service personnel and number of fake online accounts they have operating on the major news sites.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
(Link to an older article about this sort of "sock-puppetry)
You're a nut job. Forgot to take your medicine today?
Thanks god we have a president with a brain and who is not quick to the draw with other peoples son's.
Presdent Obama is da man,,, Whites u lost. LOL suckas
Yeah more free health care, cash, cell phones, etc..... for the people who refuse to try and better themselves. Just be lazy ass like you always have been and the whites will take care of you.
A typical democratic racists.
Youre DUMB beyond belief. Blacks voted for Obama cuz hes black, not cuz he has good policies or even a good record. If Hitler was black yall would vote for him too. Obama thinks hes helping but in reality hes making life for minorities sooo much worse. Minority unemployment is the highest its been in over 30 yrs under Obama. But you dont care cuz ure dumb. You think youre exacting justice by electing a half black president, but the sad thing is youre hurting ureselves and everyone else even more. By the way, before you start taking jabs at white people, just remember that whites, specifically Western Europeans, developed the modern society you feed off of. White people invented and discovered the overwhelming majority of technologies and social structures you cherish, i.e. modern medicine, rule of law, cars, planes, trains, computers, power stations, etc.. Pretty much everything you couldnt live without. Black ppl always complain about being held back and that because of colonialism they werent able to advance as a society. Black ppl had atleast a 3000 yr head start with civilization and yet by the 20th century youre still running around in loin clothes toting spears and living in filth. Be more appreciative for what has been granted to you: a civilized, modern life.
Yeah we lost the election, but I am still rich and you are just left with your homies and purple drank.
Republican refusal to work across the aisle is what brought Rome down.
I'm sure we have already crossed our Rubicon.
No it wasn't. Rome fell because they could not afford to keep giving non-producing citizens free food and entertainment. Sound familiar?
"it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Someone, anyone, please slap this 'official.'
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/asia/south-korea-warning-shots/
You can be sure of one thing... If Mitt Romney was elected, we'd be at War with Iran "on day 1" .... nothing fires up the GOP more than sending us out to fight a war in the middle East..... last 2 Republican Presidents, 3 Middle Eastern Wars... last 2 Democrats, uh... nothin... some peacekeeping missions to stop genocide, that's about it.
Nope.
Two things are certain had Mitt been elected:
1) The market would be soaring, not tanking as it is under Obama.
2) Obama care would be repealed...
4 more years of econominc misery....Thanks Obama!!
I thought you Repubs learned your lesson the other night, American's are smarter than you thought... Just because Wall Street isn't getting the regulations they want repealed so they can create another bubble doesn't mean the economy is hurting, I would figure you GOPer's would know by now, the Market's daily back and forth doesn't change anything... It's only when creeps like your last President tank the entire economy that it matters. Oh and by the way, Since JFK was inagurated, 46 million jobs have been created under Democrat Administrations in that same time period, Republican Administrations have netted only 28 million jobs... So don't give me that crap about Repubs knowing the economy, they literally aren't half as good as Dems at creating jobs.
No way that would happen. But the information was hidden from the American public until after the election. Get used to this. Big Brother will just tell you what He feels you should be told.
Sorrt, wasn't first on CNN, unless you mean "the first time we are running it"... knew abuot this hours before you published thanks to FOX
"The Obama administration did not disclose the incident, which occurred just days before the presidential election on November 1, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN." NOW THERE'S A SHOCKER, IT DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
First Obama is criticized because too many leaks are coming out during his administration, now he is criticized because the leaks are too few and too slow. Again, the guy cannot win.
But he did win!
I'm we didn't have a right wing nut case like you in office or we'd be going to war over an unmanned surveillance drone. We can't afford your kind of stupidity.
It is Bush's fault.
4400 dead americans in iraq, destoyed a country, destablized a region, increased irans sphere of influence, thanks bush
Touche'. God help us. F-ing O didn't respond?
Iran is not like Iraq or Afghanistan. It just like playing with the fire!
And rather than end it as promised, Obama continued it.
It's not easy to believe that the drone was out there simply on a picnic and what would Americans expect US government to do if an Iranian drone was 16 miles off NY coast? Secondly, what the Iranian government did is more or less a regime act of propaganda to pacify their hard liners if they want to have negotiations on the nuclear issue to lift the sanctions which have brought down the economy otherwise I think they could have brought it down easily.
And Iran missed. LOL perhaps tehy should of sent a flying boat up to take a look at it. How pathetic iran really is.
Su-25's are not "fighters", they are ground attack aircraft.
it has rails attached for vympel r-60 air to air missiles
Probably a false flag attack by the CIA......
OBAMA = HUGO CHAVEZ = They both control and manipulate the media all the time and brain wash the people.
We as americans purchase more oil from hugo than the middle east.
It is because Oil is rare in this world. There is no other country with oil near us than Venezuela. If you want, you can walk to work or buy a horse.
When the U.S. attacks Iran (or assists in attacks) it is merely called pre-emptive security or some other random, retarded response. When Iran attacks the U.S. it's called an act of war. Love the double standard.
SO FAR,
THE US has never attacked IRAN. Get your facts right.
I think it's about time
Ya except for that missile strike on that civilian airliner in the 80's. Your an idiot chris and you can hope all day but its human nature to kill eachother its what we do.
Our CIA overthrew thier democratically elected government in 1953. We armed Iraq to fight them.
Iran couldn't evern beat Iraq in their war.....do you think wea re concerned about Iran?......Obviously none of you have been in the military, because you would be surprised as to the things that are not reported to the public.......All you need do ge a life.
Ha Ha HA ha
Obama's weakness is the cause of this attack...there are probably more we do not know about.
Any strong President would have responded in an hour.
WEAK LIBS–HAVE A NICE DAY
Like GWB? hahahah, funny stuff!
You're right about that. He heard about it long before us. However, he wouldn't respond too quickly unless he knew for sure the pilot of the fighter wasn't one of his distant relatives. Barack Hussein Obama.
any other president would have made an aggressive response.as far as i am concerned obama is a coward..if he keeps increasing handouts someone is gonna hand him walkin papers sooner than later
Come on people. The U.S. spends more money on military and intelligence than the entire rest of the world put together. Iran is in the stone age militarily compared to the U.S. I think that drone was somewhere it shouldnt have been before the Iranian jets were told to go after it. It wouldnt surprise me if the drone was armed when it took off. all speculation though. Remember Iran hasnt invaded anyone in over 50+ years but the U.S. seems to wanna invade everyone.
Yes, You are right...AMERICA IS ALWAYS THE GUILTY PARTY
THINK ABOUT HOW THEY DESTROYED ENGLAND AND FRANCE IN WWII. THEY EVEN KILLED THE NICE HITLER-YOU LIBS FAVORITE PERSON BESIDES CASTRO.
THE BAD AMERICANS REALLY MAKE YOU MAD AND IRAN IS A VERY PEACEFUL COUNTRY–JUST LISTEN TO AHKMA-PORK-A-JAD TALK SO NICE ABOUT OUR GREATEST ALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
OBAMA IS A REALLY GREAT WARRIOR–HE HAS BEEN SINCE
HIS CHOOM GANG YEARS.
YAH
What is a choom wagon???
Hey Chris, if you don't like how his country handles security and military affairs, you are more than welcome to move to Iran. I am sure they won't have any problems with you publicly voicing your concerns over how how they handle things
Obama owns the media.
AND THE MEDIA OWNS HIM–BECAUSE THEY ALL HATE AMERICAN VALUES
If the jets were outside their own borders that America had been hit by a missile