By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
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"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
We all know US drones has never entered Iran airspace since the last time.. 🙂
Iran need not do so. Not impossible. So after a week
We protested to Iran, but haven't heard back yet. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! WE SHOULD RESPOND WITH A MISSLE IN THE MIDDLE OF TEHRAN!!!!!
YES MORE WAR!!!!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!! BURY THEIR CHILDREN IN THE RUBBLE WITH THE REST OF THOSE SUB-HUMAN PIECES OF GARBAGE!!!! RRRAAAAWWWRRRRR!!!!!!
I really liked the "RRRAAAAWWWRRRRR!!!!!!" Really put emphasis on it!
A bit too much red meat.
Two seperate Iranian pilots in fighter jets fire repeatedly on an unmanned aircraft and fail to hit it. Not exactly a convincing display of military power. How embarassing.
i just posted almost the same thing on another forum.
how sucky a pilot do you need to be to not hit it?
My sentiments exactly, LOL.
Su-25's couldn't even make it off the ground in Iraq 1. 2 suu-25's and 2 migs went against 2 f-15's in the only air battle of the whole campaing. all 4 were eliminated easily. No way they could hit a Predator....lol.
HAHA!! LOLZY!! Very true.. Very antiquated Iranian Airforce. The Russian made SU22 is an extremely old aircraft.. No match for US or NATO aircraft..
I am not sure I completely buy this story. I certainly cannot say what happened, but do Iranian jets fly over international waters frequently? It seems to me either they had to leave Iranian airspace intentionally to seek out the drone, or the drone was not over international waters. Given Iran's tenuous position, it seems unlikely they left their airspace to find drones to shoot at. It certainly is possible this is the case, but it does leave plenty of room for doubt.
The war mongering on here is top notch. I am impressed.
Of course knocking down a building with 3,000 innocent civilians in it wasn't warmongering in your view.
You puttin' that on Iran?
Israel should be quaking in its boots.
IRAN CANNOT EVEN SHOOT DOWN AN UNAMANNED UNARMED DRONE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Actually they did bring one down and in one piece too.
funny, so we can read about "unarmed" drones being shut down by iranian army, but nothing about pres Obama ordering a drone attack on Yemen, less than 24 hours after being reelected... and the guy is a nobel peace prize...
So are you mental midgets going to get over the Nobel Peace Prize? What exactly does that have to do with attacking enemy targets? That is the job of the president and if he didn't do that you would have another reason to bash him for being too soft. FOH with the dumb s*it.
the nobel doesn't mean anything to me after it was given to europe this year anyway. just saying. then sending drones is an act of terror, not a try to avoid conflict through peaceful means. plus what's the point of spending so much on drones if we can't even afford to save our own economy ? and this for what ? killing 2 or 3 terrorists that we'll be replaced the very next minute ?
The problem with these drones strikes is that they are occurring outside of the legal system and away from a battlefield. Declaring the world a battlefield in the war on terror is a Bush policy that gives the executive branch power to execute people for being SUSPECTED of a crime. My democrat friends used to join me to protest this kind of behavior when Bush was in office, but now they seem to be cool with it.
better yet, you do realize that even if President Obama HADN'T been elected President, he STILL would've had the power to make that decision...
If you look at the electoral college map, you will notice that red states for the most part are rank at the bottom in terms of education, productivity, ignorance, income, crime rate, obesity and myriad of other 'negatives'.
Sure about 48% of the population voted for Romney but these are the BOTTOM 48% of Americans!
so you mean that the actual 47% Romney was talking about in his video actually did vote for him ?
Wow, you are one impressive thinker. You and your buddies at the Blue State MENSA festival come up with that put-down?
You know it's really productive to be partisan, isn't it? I'm sure you ignore how Obama has resigned the Patriot Act multiple times, encroached on our rights even worse with NDAA, took us into a senseless war with terrible consequences with Libya and is still pestering Iran... AKA the same things you hated about Bush. But with Obama it's all good.
That's called kool-aid son and you people are drowning in it. Time to wake up.
And yet the "rich" and "executives" all seem to be republicans. per the OWSers and far left libs. How can you analysis and this both be true?
Then look at the political history of those southern states, and asked yourself why are the NOW red states? Maybe they believed in Einstein's definition of insanity, and decided they were in fact not insane.
You will also notice the Blue states contain about all of the ghetto inner city population. You will also notice the red states cover a vast majority of the land and resources in this country.
wow you are ignorant. and all the blue areas have higher crime. therefore, your boy-in-chief is a criminal.
My understanding on this is that it actually happened before the election and is just now being released.
Not to mention 6 of the 10 states that lead the U.S. in Food Stamp usage are red states that historically vote Republican yet I keep hearing Republicans talking about lazy Dems wanting more Food Stamps and Obama phones LOL!
Really im pretty sure new york and california voted dem and i have never seen a poorer crap hole than california. If anyone wants to visit a third world nation just go there you might want to brush up on your spanish and buy a bullet proof vest though. Minorities and dems at there finest. Cant get gas without bums asking for money. No one in kentucky has asked me for change in 10 years in fact ive never seen a bum here i think they turn into bumcycls in winter
Well we all know Obama won two of the poorest states by a landslide....hmmm wonder why?!
Cause DC, Detroit, LA, Chicago, these are full of valedictorians and such are the glimmering hope of peaceful cities.
Are you serious have you ever been to california oregon or new york? They account for most of the crime in the world. Dumbest comment ive read all day you must be a real well traveled person to know this stuff. What an idiot
You just learned this? How about the election is over and you decided to tell the truth now that your candidate won?
So now we need fighter escorts for drones ? What about a cruise missile to follow the SU-25s back to their base and give a friendly hello.
Does anyone here think we are not being tested, and that Iran is looking to see what our response (or lack thereof) will be?
Ooh, more sabre rattling..Don't worry, Obama's got your back..Just ask Osama bin Laden. Obama did what GWB refused to do..invade Pakistan and take out the bad guy.
islaaam is a cancer, it is a religion of violence and hate
You forgot to say "just kidding" at the end of what is surely a sarcastic comment
Just think if Clinton would have gone after him, when he as told this is a bad man and where he was. 9-11 may not have happened. So it was REALLY CLINTON'S fault.
you don't know the hole story behind all of this so shut up like i said before get the king pin OUTof gov'nt RUSSIA and no more problem
Yeah idiot, just ask the 4 Americans DEAD in Libya because The Butcher of Benghazi was MORE concerned with a fundraiser and getting his sleep.
"you are correct, he never mentioned the word "apology" or apologize". but read the transcripts from his speeches from that "tour". "america has not been perfect", "we have not done things in the best interests..". All making excuses for america's past behavior....essentially, n apology tour....so stfu and go ask your mom to bring you more kool-aid in her basement you putz..." – TK
"Yeah and he is right. America hasn't been perfect. In fact we have made some pretty historic blunders over the past decade. How spineless he must be to acknowledge that and try to mend some fences instead of driving over them with tanks!" – Me
Ya but if you drive over them with tanks then theres no one left to complain or apologize to. Plus the winner writes history and its whatever they say.
Good thing it was just a unarmed drone...Had they fired on a Military f-16 or such well things would be a tad bit different right now...Or had the drone been armed..It might have fired back...Im sure the Iranians would not be preped for that...They might have lost two very exspensive aircraft..But if they keep building there Nukes there goiung to loose all there aircraft anyway..Once America and or Israel bomb em...Which I hope does not come to pass...
First off Iran is not building nukes.
Second off we have ZERO business being in the middle east.
Third if Iran were to build nukes what is the problem? Oh wait the US of A is the only country to drop nuclear bombs on a another country.
Blame Bush ! Yeah it's his fault!
it's big of you to admit it!.......thank you
Whether it is his fault or not it is certainly Bush policies which Obama is taking advantage of to murder people with drones.
How can you know it was a real attack or a false flag? May be an American jet shot down its own drone and blamed it on Iran.
The US military does not fly 1980's Russian Migs, which are the jets that fired on the drone, which was flying in International airspace.
Sry, old Russian Sukhois.
So you had a satellite feed and watched that action take place over the ocean? Or you're taking your facts from others...??
@crossingouramerica – what do you not believe? That the drone was unharmed? That Iran shot at our drone? That they fly Su-25s? Or that the US doesn't have SU-25s to fly around wherever they please?
Iran has fired on military equipment before. See the US drone they claim they shot down/brought down. And they've shown aggressive actions before. Like the Iranian ship that was speeding towards a US destroyer and was turned back after the destroyer had to shoot warning shots.
We all know that US would never provoke Iran with a drone. US has never had a drone entering Iran airspace since the last time... LOL..
Guess that one landed in the wrong place much like a US drone..
Interesting move from Iran. I didnt see that coming. Althought why would they do it before election ? It would help Romney and i suppose that would be worse for them.
I'm sorry, you're being incredibly stupid. First, the drone wasn't shot down. It was unharmed. So not sure how you could call it a "false flag". Second, if it was a false flag, this would have come out the day or day after it happened. Not a week later.
Hey stupid, fighter jets have integrated into thier avionics system something called "firendly or enemy ID"
Why would the Russians .Chinese or North Koreans have sold the Iranians anything they could have hit anything with? We are the onl y country who gives all of its secrets away.
well becuae America Arms the Saudi's with modern weapons...Thats why...The arms race in the Midlle east has been ongoing for thirty plus years...and now it has reached the Atomic stage..With Pakistain and Israel owning Nukes..The ever spireling staircase of Human insanity...It just never ends...We all think we can win ..but once the Nukes start flyin NO ONE WINS...NO ONE....
Two words for the dummies: SOUR GRAPES
Technically, shooting at a marked aircraft belonging to another country in international airspace is an act of war.
Good luck on getting this admin to give this anymore than more lip service.
Good work done by Iran,if a dronce will fly over the new york then what will be the reaction of pantagon???
Did you not read the entire story? Think before you type next time. It clearly states the drone was flying in international airspace. It wasnt flying over Iran. Don't you have a goat to seduce?
Exactly. Apparently reading skills are lacking on many here.
How would the Pentagon react if an Iranian drone was flying 16 miles off the coast of Texas?
What exactly is a "dronce"????? Your lack of intelligence is showing.
nothing would happen ....just like on 9-11 2001
What part of flying over international airspace did you not read?
Why don't you move to Iran.
amjad, why don't you move to Iran blockhead!
Well, is shooting at a gadget quite the same as shooting at "us"? Nobody was in peril.
It's just hardware, and "acts of war" have to be reserved for encounters between human beings, right?
Spy drones are inherently aggressive or at least annoying and provocative...
Ummmmm...do you know how much that drone cost us? We don't just say" Oh, you just tried to shoot down our multi million dollar aircraft, oh well." It was flying in international airspace to top it all off!
Really? Great logic. If they shot down a plane and the pilot ejected and didn't die, would it fall into the same category? How about if they came to the USA and blew up an empty building? Absurd.
How should the US respond if Iran or China were flying a drone 16 miles off the coast of Texas in international waters?
this story sounds fishy to me. where is the footage? why are the "sources" undisclosed. Why had Iran not said a word nor Obama. Iran is many thinbgs...stupid is not one of them. Show us the footage then I will think about believeing this load of crap.
...Suppose They Gave A War...and No One Showed Up???
Why wasnt this brought up before the election....wow, the media especially CNN are subservient to obama...
And now so are you... BWAHAHAHAHA (insert evil laugh here).
America is not the world police... They fired warning shots... we do the same thing in international waters all the time and no one goes to war with us over it...
Last December, 2011, another US drone aircraft was lost to Iran. It apparently malfunctioned and landed with minimal damage in IRAN. Don't recall whether that spy plane was armed .. but it was flying over IRAN. The US Military denied it until it was conclusively demonstrated to be spying over Iran. Would be interesting to see the video from the drone – it would help indicate the severity of the threat to the unmanned American spy plane.
Why is this Nov 1 incident only now being revealed to the Anerican people? Why did the WH and Pentagon wait until after the election? Fools all of you who voted for Obama and believed more of his lies.
Or in other words,... "WAAAAHHHH!"
Actually, is was the smart half that kept your Kolob worshipping cult master out of the white house.
Are you serious? All the American people care about was the election and honey-boo-boo. You really think that this is going to be at the top of the news articles. It doesn't matter which President is in "power" – nothing is going to change.
Another note – who freaking cares. Nothing happened. When something is actually shot down and something more serious happens, that'll be a bigger deal.
Why was this story provided by our trust worthy military official at all...they did not have to say anything...I doubt there was a CNN reporter standing behind the UAV operator taking notes
Hey forestpark, would you like to get a text message any time someone shoots at an American soldier or American military craft? This stuff happens all the time, and most of it is not newsworthy.
If your mad Obama is pres,good. Suck it up bi tchs
another typical lib....must must call someone names, can't think of anything else to say or do. Poor little things, need the savior to take care of you
Another typical neo tard...defending people who hate your guts...
Brenda!...get back in the Kitchen!!
Presenting Exhibit A, "BigShiz": the quintessential Obama voter.
Bis Shiz and his ilk are in for a civics lesson over the next 4 years. Let's see how America fares as people decide to shelter their money instead of investing and hiring in this economy. Threaten people with confiscation, they hide their toys. Economic illiteracy prevails today, and you Big Shiz will pay the ultimate price.
Best of luck dude!
Unfortunately, Literate, I've come to realize that they have no ability to attach consequences to actions. So telling them that X will lead to Y makes absolutely no sense in their world.
So feeding them the "Bush's fault" line is easy peasy, and this can/will be trotted out indefinitely, with great success.
If that's all you're thinking of when you read this article then you live in a very small world and have zero understanding of real world events.
Uh oh, Joey, you used words with more than two syllables. I'm beginning to realize that we can't do that around Obama supporters.
CNN article was written with banner at top reading, "EMBARGO UNTIL AFTER ELECTION"
I read on factcheck.org that in fact, Obama has never apologized to any other country, especially a middle eastern one of anything,.... ever. Funny how the neo-tards keep whining about it though.
you are correct, he never mentioned the word "apology" or apologize". but read the transcripts from his speeches from that "tour". "america has not been perfect", "we have not done things in the best interests..". All making excuses for america's past behavior....essentially, n apology tour....so stfu and go ask your mom to bring you more kool-aid in her basement you putz...
your stupid go back and listen to what romney said when he called it an apology tour
Wow. You are a little slow to catch on. No one is disputing the fact that he did not actually say the words "I apologize." The point of contention is that some choose to interpret his words differently than others. You can't fact check a persons opinion.
Yeah and he is right. America hasn't been perfect. Infact we have made some pretty historic blunders over the past decade. How spineless he must be to acknowledge that and try to mend some fences instead of driving over them with tanks!
Chris... first let me laugh.......hahahahahaha. You are a true liberal. If check with factcheck.org, they would tell you that Obama is the liberal god. I bet you would believe that too...google it yourself Chris, you'll be amaze about that apology-thingy. For your liberal laziness, I provide you herewith the link and videos that your god went all over the world to apologize for America. http://freebeacon.com/five-times-obama-has-apologized-for-america/
Yes I am a true liberal. And morons like you are a dying breed. Get with the times or get left behind to stew in your own bitterness, anger and hate.
None of those listed were apologies.
Its bizarre that you think admitting past behaviour equates to apologizing for that behaviour.
now if he has said....'and i wish to say sorry for that behaviour', then you might have had a case, but he didnt.
Wow,lots of repuglican bitterness these days. How come? LOL
all you @ hole yoyos will never get over it will you.
go and diddle yourselves ~ 4 more years are a fact ~ and then biden for 8
Michelle Obama's spouse has reinstated 'Don't Ask – Don't Tell".
Absolutely no dialogue is allowed concerning attacks on our country or our security.
You are not capable of such a dialogue, so don't worry.
What is life like on the rocky banks of the river under that bridge?
Why are we just now finding out about this? More Obama/Media coverups, like Benghazi-gate.
Na, just idiots like you snorting Ajax, trying to be politicos....
Ahh, way to embody the party of tolerance Joe! Those of you on the left realize you immediately lose all credibility the moment you start in with childish insults, ad hominen attacks, etc., right? Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me.
Sorry they didn't give you a daily update. The probably forgot that you were part of a national security team and should be notified of everything that happens so that we can hear what you recommend we do about it.
^This. Last time I checked, I wasn't getting daily text messages on our national security.
I'm sure we will get a pic of Obama in the situation room soon
"The most transparent Administration ever."
SO how many of you "armchair generals" enlisted and are ready to go to war with Iran over them shooting a few rounds at one of our drones out of amusement and seeing if they would get a reaction? Ypu see, this is what tools like you and scool yard bullies do, they pester hoping to get a rise out of you. The best course of action for a 10 year old boy would be to hit back, and for what? Them wasting a few rounds shooting at nothing? and then we get to go to war with a real military who would make the iraqi's look like school girls and the taliban look like, well cave men, because the are... NO, the correct response is to ignore it, just like when handling your non-sense, chest beating, chickenhawk blather. It's a drone and it wasn't hit. There was a russian sub of our coast, do you suggest we go to all out war over it with the russians too? This stuff happens all day, everyday all over the world and until AMERICAN blood is spilled directly by Iran, just ignore it.
You couldn't be anymore right. These people have not a clue.
Of course! Lets ignore their push for nuclear weapons, unaccounted weapons grade plutonium going all over the world, human rights violations, arming or terrorists, threats against Israel, claims that Americans are the devil and need to be eradicated, and now, the attack on US military assets in international waters. I am in the military. and when they deal a blow to our nation and you Ryan7777 yell for help / accountability, I'll go...and you can sit behind your keyboard blogging.
if your in the military, you shouldnt be! your to anxious by the sound of it to get killed.
Really David, because I'm in too...but I've been in long enough to know that we don't need to go looking for any more excuses to be involved in any further wars. No, not without damn good reason. Our economy can't sustain it right now, and our military needs the break to be frank. Can it handle it? Yes. Does it need to right now? No. Let the politicians do what they do toward a non-military solution (if it's possible) and quit volunteering the rest of the services to be stuck in yet another backward middle-eastern sandtrap.
@flox: You are a very weak minded and spineless person. I'm not anxious to give my life, but I would, even to defend you.
Only one nation has ever detonated nuclear weapons on a human population.
There is a distinct difference between the passive observation patrols of a Russian sub near our coast and active aggressive attacks against our military. And yes I have served on active duty in our military. I can not re-enlist because of age and physical limitations. Iran, with good reason, expects Michelle Obama's spouse will apologize for tempting them to waste ammunition.
What about you? Are you enlisted? Is it YOUR American blood we are waiting to be spilled? Or just YOUR family and/or friends?
No one is suggesting that the US should go to war...however, the incident is important and the American should have been told about it prior to the elections. Maybe President Obama would still have been re-elected, but he should have been forced to comment on what the US plans to do about an increasingly hostile Iran. We should not wait until American blood is spilled to respond to hostile nations...unless you are volunteering your own.
Yes, I am a veteran. My husband is an active combat veteran. Our fathers are combat veterans. We have several siblings who are veterans. Should I go on...or have I established my credentials for your satisfaction?
I can hear the President's response - assuming he somehow gets forced into responding - now: "We are going to identify the folks that are responsible for this violation and prosecute them to the fullest extent of international law." (Don't you HATE it when we refers to terrorists, murderers and assorted thugs as "folks"?)
He's probable response will most likely be "wonder if that was one of the missles Reagan sold them".
Sukhoi-25 jets very likely fire Russian missles.
good quote. Bush on site at the WTC right? right?
No, I think it's only you.
Who is a terrorist? Just take a look on History :
Iran Air Flight 655 was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles on 3 July 1988 as it flew over the Strait of Hormuz at the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, an Airbus A300B2-203 operated by Iran Air, was flying from Bandar Abbas, Iran to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. While flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, it was destroyed by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes (CG-49). All 290 onboard including 66 children and 16 crew perished. The incident is ranked ninth among the deadliest disasters in aviation history. It was the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Indian Ocean and the highest death toll of any incident involving an Airbus A300 anywhere in the world.
I love the people who yell the loudest about going to war and are the ones who would not put on the uniform and go fight.
Well said Clarence.
I'm yelling for a strong america. I put on a uniform. My brother is a navy officer. I still want America to be respected and not let acts of war go unanswered. I see you don't care that we get attacked. You want to ignore it. Sad.
Exactly. Romney gets bellicose with Syria and Iran and wants $Trillion in unrequisitioned military expenditures (while he fights the National Debt). For all his sebre-rattling desire to be Commander in Chief, I note that when he was ready to be called to serve his country in uniform in 1968, he rather than going to Vietnam, decided to be a Mormon Missionary in France. He then said at least 4 times that he did nothing to evade or dodge the draft!
And Canada chimes in.
Fair enough. It is confirmed we have protested in no uncertain terms. LOL
you lost dim wit ~ go back in the garage
Has Obama bowed to the Iranian a hole yet? I'm sure it's just a matter of time now.
You were bullied often. That is a given....
Haha! Joe is the classic case of someone who's reduced to mere namcalling. Look at all of his posts. That's all he's got XD
Na, I've got plenty.
I can catagorgically prove that you are indeed a dunce.
Good question. Is W still swapping slobber and going for hand holding walks with his Saudi handlers? Please respond as I have asked this many times and never received confirmation either way..
Everyone knows the Iranians can't shoot for sh-t.
Obama said what the people wanted to hear, and the suckers fell for it (the 2nd time)
Scarry being in the US right now
Yawn. shiny side out dillweed.
we know one thing for sure.......over half the voters didnt fall from the garbage Romney was giving out! How do we know.........Obama= President........
Flox, either you love more taxes or you are on the Government dime.
why won't you guys open your eyes?
where our country right now
the debt o our country, gas prices, taxes, jobs/business closing, un-employments, and the list goes on and on and on...
what a joke, and people still voited for the person who puts us on this situation right now...
hooray to all of you Obama supporters!!!
easy trigger.. change your diaper, have a bottle and a nap
Its funny how you would use that as an attack against a Democrat considering the country went through the same thing with George W. Bush. What a bunch of idiots, voting for a president that started two wars, lied to the American public, and polarized Washington to a degree which had never been seen, for a second term. Republicans even admit that electing George W. Bush was a huge mistake. Its like Americans have a memory that spans no more than 4 years. Sheesh.
We didn't start the wars dillweed, ever heard of jihadist extremists?
right on top of an undefended drone and "couldn't hit it."
are these revolitionary guard like iran's boy scouts?
LOL, maybe we should fly a hot-air balloon in the area and see if they can hit that.
Quick, Obama & Hillary!! We need to issues apologies to Iran ASAP! Get that Farsi newspaper ad ready! And where's a damn video we can blame this on?
4 more years, bwahahahahha
yep laugh it up...sooner or later there will be no one to work to support those too lazy to do it themselves, then who will be laughing....your savior Obama is only a puppet...he is not the one in charge, but you can't see beyond the free stuff to realize it's the spider luring in the fly LOL but oh well...I have what I need to survive, do you
The Iranians are a little slolw. I am sure they just saw the video. But they will really be frightened when Obama warns them.
And we allowed the SU-25s to leave? Shooting at us in international waters is an act of war. I bet that any other Nation in the region would have shot the aggressors down.
No, they wouldn't because it's stupid. Do you shoot a guy in the face that calls you a bad name? thats called OVER REACTING.
It was an UNARMED drone. The S-25s were LONG gone before any type of response could be generated. What they NEED to do is arm them with a couple of air-to-airs and see what the response would be....it would be Iran condemning us for shooting down one of their jets, although they might not want to admit it was an unmanned aircraft that shot it down. And, of course, there is the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight factor, too..
No, it not. Moron, go troll elsewhere.
It is called free speech. He has the right be here just as much as you. You don't like what he has to say dismiss it or leave.
The leftist way. When you don't agree with someone, call them names and restrict their right to free speech.
That's because the drone was probably in Iranian airspace and they were shooting warning shots
Yeah John, you wait until they are in your air space. That is the Liberal way. Lead from behind.
Agree. It was an act of war, now let's quit playing games and take them out!
You are an idiot...why do you think the military chose to give us this story??
You know, if the US weren't flying drones on the Iranian border, this wouldn't be a problem. Because, you know, the US wouldn't be flying killer drones at the edge of another nation's airspace, while spouting bellicose language on a weekly basis and deploying sanctions aimed at crippling that nation's economy. And that's just stuff from this year.
Hey dillweed, this was international airspace.
Keep trusting gov't. nice little ObamaZombie
thats why he said the EDGE of their airspace... try reading the whole post... we defend the edge of our airspace too, i.e. international waters out to a certain range and would likely fire warning shoots too.
But it was flying "routing maritime surveillance" however it's mission was classified? hmmm... sounds like an oxymoron. Iran is saying stay the hell away from us, and they have every right to do so. Wouldn't you do the same thing?
Brainiacs on this board I tell you.
this is not anything new by all means, this was actually leaked out 10 days ago. And to top it off, Iran actually has the Drone Jet in their possession and has had china Air Force intelligence specialist's brought in to analyze the everything on board. Obama was asked by the secret service for permission to launch a rocket at the drone to dispose of it, or to set off a self destruct mechanism already on board the drone. Both options where denied by Obama.
OK, wise guy, then WHY was there NO mention of this anywhere in the MSM until now? Another stinkin' cover up for the election...
You ever hear the term "you're talkin outya ass"?? Well, you are a prime example of that term.
Jon – 10 days? really? The incident happened on Nov 1. That was 7 days ago. I'm impressed that you are aware of the story leaking 3 days before the incident actually happened. Perhaps you should be in military intelligence.
It occurred Nov. 1. According to my calculations that was a week ago, not 10 days ago and the drone you are talking about was in their possession in Dec, 2011. Get your facts straight.
Oh my, we couldn't have this disrupt the election, could we?
Another Obama Administration election-motivated coverup to pair with the Benghazi attack.
From the standpoint of the American people, our own government is nearly as much the enemy as the Islamists.
Stop double accounting, you filthy troll.
Maybe the Iranian pilots should take marksmenship lessons from the crew of the USS Vincennes.
Maybe if Obama didn't make a fool of himself blaming the killing of the Benghazi 4 on video, they wouldn't have dared. How many believed that this action was because of a video? Me no way in hell
What the h*ll are you talking about?
I do believe I posted this to you by mistake. Sorry.
How can a modern jet fail to shoot down a slow moving unarmed drone. Pretty embarrassing for the Iranians unless they deliberately missed their target.
Actually, much slower moving air targets are harder to hit.
Ok... so this happened a week ago prior to the election...why are we now hearing about this?
Another cover-up. Just like they covered up the border patrol agents death as friendly fire.
Because our President is a dishonest , arrogant, patronizing authoritarian who "knows best" for us anytime his delusional self-image or his election prospects are at stake.
Then leave, you phhucking pusy.
if your leaving I'm sure we can get you a ride to the airport..........
So when bombs away to Israel from Iran we won't know until when? Unbelievable how most folks are out of touch with what this administration is all about and still voted!!
Joe, you were probably the one yelling the loudest and name calling when GW was pres. Funny how you can't take it now.
You notice it wasn't official. Maybe they were waiting to confirm it instead of claiming it and them having to retract it because it was a false report. Don't you people believe in confirming facts....oh, wait, no, apparently you don't!!!
Why is right, but don't forget it was right before the elections by days. If the word had been announced the Americans would be PO'd and Nobama would of had lost outright.
Oh no Mr. President, we have a need for you to come over there and apologize since we're flying too close to their border! or show us how manly you are...
Obama never apologized for anything, but you wouldn't know that because you are a SOUTHERN R.E.T.A.R.D who doesn't have any of that FANCY YANKEE BOOK LERNIN so you rely on the TEE VEE and AM radio to tell you this stuff
That's partially true. He never has apologized for anything he dis and that damned well should have apologized for.
But he has gone round apologizing for the rest of the country. Oh yes.
* ...did and that he...
CapsLock and periods.
Meditate on this.
You can tell a liberal when they open their mouth and attack. Truth hurts deal with it.
LOL dude you really are showing your lack of intelligence. If you are going to make fun of someone at least have a higher IQ than your dog. And as expected the only thing Libs can do is name call, they aren't smart enough to come up with facts so name calling it is. Go get your free cell phone and your welfare card and have a toke on me, an American worker.
Actually, he's right. And this was independently fact checked. The president never actually apologized. I know it's easy to believe partisan hype. For both sides... but really, EVERYONE here is displaying ignorance of facts by simply mouthing party lines.
If all you do is vote partisan and can't see strengths and weaknesses, accomplisments and failures in each individual, and just Red or Blue... then you are what is wrong with America.
Like he did with Osama? Or Libya? Forgot about those, eh?
That is so old news. What about all the wonderful things he done for Egypt? Sharia is wonderful isn't it?
Bain Capital outfitted those jets with Chinese gun sights.
Get off the stale talking points. What has Obama said about this ZERO. The only reason this is out now is because he finally had his puppet masters tell him what to say besides duh!
Nothing a beer summit and a game of hoops won't fix!
Finally, an intelligent response to this article. Beer summits should be mandatory. 🙂
You conservatives are stupid. he never apologized to anyone Bush did to china. and Romney wasnt duped he didnt care he knew the american people didnt want he stupid corporate ideology . You dumbnut Republicans still wont stop with the obama comments you sound like 3 year olds . you didnt vote him in we did because your party has nothing but dumb ideas for the country. like tax cuts create jobs. war makes america strong, the world needs to be afraid of the US so they do what we say, rich people with money in china , the cayman islands, switzerland care enough about america to be president oh and where was mitt romney birth certificate, where was his college transcripts, where were his tax returns. you coward conservatives wouldnt have done anything to iran y ou had your chance in 2003
You know, you'd probably sound more convincing if you knew basic grammar.
A lobotomy would make him sound smarter.
You write like a 3 year old. What's your point?
I do not believe you have any clue as to what you are talking about.
As a Democrat, I wish other Democrats would make sure to use proper grammer and make direct, clear points when they bash the right. It just makes us look silly when we are complaining about how stupid the right is, when we aren't exactly modeling intelligence.
get over yourself...no one is whining, no one is rioting, no one is threatening to do bodily harm to anyone.....your guy won, America lost. That's how we see it. You can and will disagree. Let's just see where we are 4 years from now. I say unemployment will still be over 7%, gas over $4/gallon and over 50 million on food stamps. I will bet you my mortgage, on the condition that I still have a job and a house 4 years from now 😉 I will also bet that the senate will block more bills from the house than owebamao plays rounds of golf in the next 4 years...
Harry Reid is calling the election a mandate and wants to add what would amount to a federal sales tax of eight cents on the dollar to every American in addition.
You are still talking about Romney? Get over it already, and find some one else to hate. We have bigger fish to fry my narrow minded friend.
They could go back to blaming Bush, worked for Obama and MSNBS.
Owebama, the Father of Lies, has the media in his pocket. 4 people died-he blamed a stupid movie. More people died because of Fast and Furious- he lied blaming Bush. GM could have gone into bankruptcy like any other company but the Father of Lies told us he was the only way to save it. The Father of Lies says he created more drilling; it's on private land. The Father of Lies has said he believes in all of the above regarding energy and yet he is on record saying anyone can open a coal fired power plant and he will force them into bankruptcy. We are through the looking glass folks, what ever he says is a lie and the press runs with it as if it's the truth.
your retardedness is stunning. "Father of Lies," that's hilarious...
Obama was a waste of sperm. To bad his Mom didn't abort his ass.
'anti-christ' would just sound silly though
Even if we listed all his lies you wouldn't listen. You hear what you want to hear from MSNBS
Silly Iranians can't even hit a drone. At least we got an airline!
Iran would not have ever tried this if we had a pres. that had a spine and balls.
That's right, ask Osama
Ask the our military who were shot in the back, ask the 4 who were murdered in Benghazi while the Obama watched. If that is what you want in a leader you got the pos you wanted.
Because taking down OBL on foreign soil, without permission... wasn't ballsy?
You got a 'balls' fixation?
When did CNN find out about this attack. It occured on November 1st. Probably Candy Crowley had to verify after the election. Rember Iran was about to sit down the US about their nukes. BHO's minions floated the possible talks....din't get great response pulled it back.
MSM and Obama are as thick as thieves.
Whatever will Pres Obama do?? a) secretly thank the press for holding story; b) cry; c) apologize for peering into Iran's airspace; d) imprison the drone pilot for 1 yr; e) find 3 ways to lie about the incident, f) all of these.
z. Invade Iran on behalf of Almighty Eritz Y'izroel and the CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOTTT *huff hurff wheeze*
I voted for Obama just to watch all the neo-cons freak out online afterwards. True story. I trolled the vote!
is it hard to type with your peni$ in you hand
Let me get this straight – Iranian fighter pilots couldn't bring down an unmanned, unarmed drone. Doesn't really say much about the competency of their pilots or military. Israeli pilots made very quick work of the Iranian drone launched by Hezbollah, complete child's play for the IAF.
The SU-25 is a dedicated ground attack aircraft designed originally for destroying armored vehicles. It has very little air to air capability. There is no radar or sophisticated fire control system. The aircraft is a bomb truck and the gun is designed for killing tanks. Iranian pilots do not have much training either as spare parts for their aircraft and money for fuel are scarce.
Cheese, I understand it's an old plane and their whole fleet is in dire need of spare parts, But what does that tell you about their air force when that's the plane they send up there to do the job
Ho ho ho ... a bunch of girlie men on here crying about 4 dead in Benghazi.
"On another story, 40,000 Americans died in Iraq to help President Bush liberate his Muslim brothers. Republicans support the Bush War 95%-5%. 'Those American boys did not die in vain' said one Republican. 'They died to bring freedom to our Muslim brothers, because we really love the Arab people'."
Oh, where is my hankie ... those poor 4 guys camping out in the middle of a civil war, surrounded by Muslims who for some reason, don't seem to appreciate us coming in and killing 500,000 civilians. "I just dont understand how anything bad could happen to them, after all Libya is such a safe spot, and we love vacationing there."
40,000 Americans died in Iraq? Where the heck did you get your numbers? WW2?
You should be ashamed of yourself. The age of internet anonymity truly has destroyed civility and lowered the bar for us all. You should really head back to 4chan with that ridiculousness.
It appears you find it amusing 4 Americans were killed? I assume you voted for Obama? Someone needs to teach you about life my friend.There is and never will be amusement associated with the deaths of Americans.
Your disregard for the assassinated ambassador his aid and two SEAL members seems to be in concert with the Presidents who called it "just a bump in the road".
Beyond that Sly, where do you get your figures? Out of thin air? You can't simply make up your own facts simply to try and justify and absurd stance and argument!
No one is amused that 4 died in some civil war in the desert.
4,000 died for nothing in Iraq, and NONE of you spouting off about Libya said ANYTHING bad about the Bush Oil War.
That is called hypocrisy. Or ignorance. Just like some of you actually believe this particular drone was just in Intl territory taking a nice Sunday ride. I imagine you are all aware Iran shot down at least 1 drone in their country a couple weeks back.
I know y'all would be really really fine with Iran floating a drone over Dallas. Hypocrits. You lost, now shut up.
Your a moron the 4000 dead were soldiers who signed up to die when the pres said to tbe 4 in libya were suit wearing diplomats you idiot. Thats a pretty huge difference.
You're an idiot
You disgust me Sly – I've always believed in fighting for my fellow American's freedom no matter what differences we may have. But I'll make an exception for you.
Are you really that gullible or just plain stupid? Really? 40k soldiers? What % of your dumbocrap brothers voted 98% endorsing the war in the middle east? I doubt you'd know anyhow. You are either a troll or just an out and out moron.
NO BALLS OBAMA.......FIRST , give the Iranians a FREE high tech drone, THEN, let them attack a US drone......NO BALLS OBAMA........Reagan would never let them get away with this.....
to all you Obama haters. You lost!.....shut up!! .....You typical bunch of losers!! You are nothing but Gun slinging , war mongering we want to get more Americans killed jerks!
Reagan sold the Iranians weapons, but you knew that, right?
This was after over 200 marines were killed in Beirut under Ronnies watch.
How old are you?
Actually, Reagan released their frozen assets in 1989 and sold them arms. Remember Iran-Contra. They probably just shot at the drone with a missle sold to them by Reagan. Could explain why it missed.
Wait until a Nuke or a big comet are bearing down on us! You won't even know it's comming because you'd be kept in the dark. Why? Anything that rocks Obamas boat gets withheld or swept away. Am I right?
No. You're not right. You just read about it, didn't you?
A week and a half after it actually happened. Think the media withheld that little tidbit of info at BO's request? Otherwise, it would have been all over the news 20 minutes after it happened. THAT is the caliber of the man who resides in the White House. He lies to the American people constantly, and the media and the Kool-Aid drinkers keep going back for more. What is wrong with you people???
Obama just announced that he will be issuing an apology to the Iranian people, not because the US has done anything wrong, but because it's been about 20-minutes since he apologized for something.
George, the mother of all lies was WMD, which has led to thousands of American deaths, and hundreds of thousands in Iraq, let alone billions of dollars in unecessary spending because we thought we could control Iraqi oil, which we cannot. Until people realize that all politicans are full of BS, we'll never move forward in this country. It's like the bloods and the crips blaming each other for violence when they both can't keep track of the # of bodies they've left dead in the streets. Jesse Ventura makes a lot of sense, it's the Rebloodlicans and Democrips running our country, gangs in suits.
So, we're concerned about a conflict with a country that still uses Su-25's? These were outdated 20 years ago. One F-22 could knock four Su-25's out of the sky before they even knew anything was amiss.
So they fired at a drone and missed. Well it just goes to show how screwed Iran's Air Force will be if they want to take this to the next level.
can't wait for all the stuff that comes out after the election that obama suppressed.
Why is this news? It's now ok to go after American property and people. it's ok
Another report that was held until AFTER the election. Wonder what other surprises are in store for us
Wag the dog. Oblumer will not do anything and the Iranians know it. Our chicken in chief has gut guts, no morals, and cannot be counted on by our allies. More american will die because of him. This is his show now. He has nobody else to blame for anything. HE needs to take responsibility for something now. But he won't because he is pathetic.
I'm going to go with "lack of combat skill" for $500 Alex!
How do you not hit a drone if you are in a jet? Aren't these things pretty slow? Sounds like Iran was trying to influence US elections.
So, is there another American film producer they can arrest for this?
Too bad drones don't have weaponry.
Actaully they do, this one just did not have any equipped as it was just doing routine survelience.
.....wait, what was the question again?
Bush put his foot down and said you will NOT step on America. Obozo says, come c c c c ccc c come on over guys annnnnd do do dddd do what you want. We are taking HUGE steps backwards. What's it going to take another 911 for this country to wake up? It's a shame, hey but at least all the poor nonworking lazy folks have obamaphones!
Nah Obama just apologizes and say's I am so sorry we offended you by flying in international airspace how can we make it up to you!.
Repubturd have such short memories when it comes to their own. GWB started a False War using lies. When are he and Cheney going to prison for WAr crimes.
Right after you get a brain that functions. Obama 2016!!!
Remember that one time while playing basketball someone took your ball and you killed them?
It must be to show their love for us. After all, wasn't all that unpleasantness (along with every other bad thing that is, was or will be) caused by Bush? Doesn't everyone love the US now that Obama is king for four more years?
In a real FIGHT between Big Bird and Barack Obama, my money is on Big-Bird!
Thank god the relublicains are not in charge, this would be grounds for another war!
God help us if we all used your logic
No goofball, if the Republicans were "in charge" the Iranian military would have been too scared to fire on one of our drones! However, no one, and I mean NO ONE, is afraid of OBOZO!
Yeah and you such a freak in idiot thinking your safe. Obummer is going to get america destroyed. And you'll go down on him I mean with him.
If Republicans were in charge the Iranias wouldn't have dared to do this. Obama has been a foreign policy failure.
Our national security is at risk and the Benghazi incident alone is enough to impeach Obama. He and his corrupt administration are the most deceptive politicians in history. He wants to bring America down, and half of this country were ignorant enough to vote him back in to office. We're all going to suffer because of it – but we won't do it quietly. This is just the beginning of a very long four years ahead.....God help us.
Is that what Rush told you today?
I don't need anyone to tell me what's going on with this president and his destructive agenda. On the other hand, Obama's followers only respond to dirty tactics and small-minded ideology, and can't even get themselves to a voting booth by themselves and without handouts.
Well what did DNCNN and PMSNBC and John Stewart tell you what to think today, BobZemko? Can you knuckle draggers on the liberal left speak more than one sentence without drooling out "Rush" or "Faux News" references?
The narrow minded stupidity of that comment is mind numbing. Almost as hilarious as the melodrama in general on these forums. It scares me that you can vote.
I don't like Rush Limbaugh and have never listened to him, but he at least CARES that those men were brutally murdered. Do you care, Bob?
Please, realize that WAR has nothing to do with peace. It's time your people finally learn this.
Get a life.
Is that like the deception of Bush and WMD in Iraq? Did you call for his impeachment for that also?
That wasn't impeachment grounds. We had been attacked on our soil – catastrophically – our intelligence lead us to the WMD's at the time, and they carried out the mission and kept our land safe for seven years after that – Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice vouch for this. Bush deserves credit for that – not impeachment. Unlike, the sleaze Clinton, who's in the oval office carrying on with an intern and then lies under oath to the American people as a sitting president. Because of his narcissism, he didn't step down when he was impeached. Obama ignored intelligence – in real time – and three servicemen and an Ambassador were murdered. He then instigated a cover-up – which is now under investigation – this is what could lead to impeachment.
Iran would never fire upon our drone if anyone other than Obama was our president. World leaders do NOT fear Barack Obama because he bows to them, just do a google search with the words "Obama Bows" and see what comes up.
Just go ask Osama bin laden
Yeah, all the years of intel and the "enhanced interrogation techniques" that led up to the US figuring out where he was. . .who was president then????
Search for Bin Laden was in place since 2001, your leader did nothing but take the credit of the work of the CIA and Seals. What was Obama gonna do, say no just let him walk?
Ya the pakistani man who gave us the info where Osama was at the time, he is the reason we got Osama! He is currently in prison and we are letting him rot in there while Obama takes all the credit. That is just pathedic. But hey, free obamaphones to all that dont want to work! Go Obama, its that easy to win Americans over!
Damn, he bows to everybody
Why should people fear a leader, that isn't a sign of a strong leader...
They may not fear Obama but the certainly have more respect for him than Bush.
You confuse contempt with respect...
It wasn't a planned attack...just a demonstration.
Romney probably sold them the defective jets outsourced and supplied with Chinese parts.
The height of ignorance .
It clearly was just to show their love for us. After all, doesn't the entire middle east just love us now that we re-elected Obama? Wasn't all that unpleasantness caused by Bush?
The US has been hated long before Bush was in office. Learn your history before you write.
There! Now with this little made up false flag, maybe Obama can send our young men to Iran to die, so that Benny Net&Yahoo will finally shut up.
No worries. Obama will just go on another apology tour.
Another??? I missed the first one...
Stop being soo negative. The Obama administration promptly "reached out to the Iranians" after the attack and probably told them that they have nothing to worry about. Now we on the other hand have lots to worry about. $16 trillion national debt, $1.1 trillion deficit, high unemployment, 46 million on food stamps, a fiscal cliff at the end of the year. Happy Holidays.
@ajhnson, think of it as our Dear Leader being conscientous enough to want to personally inspect the shoes of so many heads of state.
Well with our new world wide policy ( let's hide under our beds) I'm surprised the Joint Chief of Staff and the Commander and Chief Obama didn't wet their beds over this .... Four more years, four more years, four more years !!!!
I wonder how the US would react if Russian or Chinese Spy Drones were operating just a few miles past our maritime borders? Its these double standards that common Americans seem to be consistently blind to.
Let's not forget who put the Shah in power. Ever hear of the SAVAK?
Who sold Iraq the chemical weapons it used against the Iranians?
Who shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988?
HEY Sanchez......they flew in INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE.........Iranians had NO RIGHT to attack.......DONT YOU GET THAT???
I totally agree. Why is it so outrageous when people get mad at us for spying on them?
It happens all the time. Russian bombers test our defenses by seeing how far/close they can get. Has happened since about the 60's. We've never shot one down. There was a Russian attack sub off the east coast last week. We didn't sink it. Get a clue and some historical perspective before you post next time.