By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
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"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
The Iranians will hit us with The Bomb soon after they get it.
Load one on a yacht, sail it to NYC or LA and set it off . There will be no proof of where it came from so retaliation will not be an option.
So in this scenario, we should do what? Drop a preemptive bomb on them first?
Drop "conventional" munitions on their nuclear facilities possibly killing 50-100 individuals that were directly involved in developing a nuclear weapon that if set off in New York harbor would will millions...ABSOLUTELY.
Nice. Rubbish Americans deserve it.
You can trace uranium actually. We'd know if it was them and they'd be the first on the list. It would be complete suicide. They aren't that stupid, get your head out of the sand.
Remember what they said when Iran hacked their RQ-170?
It crashed due to malfunction inside Afghanistan,then they said in crashed inside Iran due to malfunction, now they are claiming it crashed inside Iran for "some reasons".
Now they are saying their unarmed! (to gain sympathy!) drone was over the international waters! on a classified routine mission! (they were monitoring the Sardine population in the Persian Gulf perhaps!) when two unprovoked! Iranian jets opened fired at it but missed!( Su-25 has a built-in two-barreled 30 mm cannon with a fire rate of 3000 shots per minute!).
In a few months they will admit they were trying to penetrate the Iranian airspace and make up for the humiliation of HezbAllah drone operation over the occupied Palestine but Iranians saw us before we even get in and scared us away !
Drone! Y U NO STOP MOVING!!
America is the root of all terror. America has invaded sixty country since world war 2.
In 1953 America overthrow Iran's democratic government and installed a brutal dictator Shah. America helped Shah of Iran to establish secret police and killed thousands of Iranian people.
During Iran-Iraq war evil America supported Suddam Hossain and killed millions of Iranian people. In 1989, America shot down Iran's civilian air plane, killing 290 people.
In 2003,America invaded Iraq and killed 1,000,000+ innocent Iraqi people and 4,000,000+ Iraqi people were displaced.
Now America is a failed state with huge debt. Its debt will be 22 trillion by 2015.
And it's amazing how America still rules the world. Moohaha!
By the way, economists predict the debt will go down in next 5 years no matter who is prez. I think some people think the prez rules congress, but its the opposite. You should all go kiss your kids goodnight and be thankful we won WW 11. It's gonna be alright.
Iran doesn't have that model. Obama was trying to land it there. Try again next week Barry.
aggression shown by USA by un law fully sending the drone to Iranian soil.... and how CNN interprets...looks like the whole team is drunk... CNN , you even suck at being biased!!!!
Pat attention, the drone wasn't on "Iranian soil"... It was over international waters, which makes your entire theatrical response unnecessary at the least.
What part of "Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space..." don't you understand. That mean that is was NOT in Iranian territory.
OH KNOCK it OFF you CNN ass holes...WFT? You Promote WAR More than MOST Conservatives!!!! What a BUNCH of Huligans/Idiots
Good to use the right name:
Thank you CNN
another white house pre-election cover up
More we don't know about yet I'm sure.
I know, next "they'll" be shooting at our fighter planes and bombers while they're conducting routine surveillance over their cities if we let this atrocity go unpunished. Scandalous. If only the liberal media exposed this sooner Romney would have escaped that pesky electoral collage by at least three votes!
You people are ignorant fools and knee-jerk reactionaries who don't know how to pay attention.
If you want to fully understand how much the Iranian theocratic political system hates us as Americans and Western Europe in general, go see the Movie "Argo". I was a very young US Airman in November 1979 and remember pretty clearly those events which led us to this point in history. At my first technical in Denver (1978-79) there were even Iranian Airman going to school for F-4 avionics maintenance who we were clearly told to avoid and stay away from. One of the American Airmen who died in Operation Eagle Claw in April 1980 was from my home town. Needless to say I've been watching events unfold in Iran for a long time now. I hate to say but sooner or later we might come to blows with Iran unless cooler heads in their nation prevail. As one who has been to war to many times in my military career I really hope not, but......It's really up to them and the ball is in their court!! God help us all!!
A little add on If you think it was bad during the Cold War with the Soviet Union and Russians, you ain't seen nothing yet!! Our differences with the Soviets were mostly political and we were allies with them in WWII against Nazi Germany. The issues with Iran's government are very much religious based philosophy–a whole deeper can of worms!!
In December, 2011 a hi-tech US drone crash landed in Iran. The US asked Iran to return its secret spy plane. Wonder oif the US would claim that such drone was in international airspace if it hadn't landed in Iran. Any claims made by the US military should not be taken as gospel truth now should they!
I think we should send some drones in to drop 1000s of Condems over Iran so they stop reproducing.
Looks like both Israel and Iran were trying to influence our election process... good job by our Intelligence to not allow it to happen.
Wow what a media scandal: "How dare those brownies defend their borders and national sovereignty (which we pay so much lip service to.) After all, this was in Kuwaiti airspace.. We would never shoot at a Chinese drone flying along the Texas/Mexican boarder spying on us. Especially if China was ratcheting up war-rhetoric about 'bombing one of our nuclear facilities!' No. Never. We're the victim here. We would never call China a provocateur for traveling half way across the planet (beyond it's borders) just to fly spy planes along the Texas/Mexican boarder. We would never subjugate another nation in a way we would not like. Unheard of. Let's bomb those brownies for this outrage!11"
Yep, you are 100% right, the US has gone MAD!
.....great....please don't start another war guys, the U.S. always seems to drag the rest of us into it.
No one wants war. However, the world is not a perfect place. Complacency is not an option.
Our ideals do not let us abandon our fellow man. Our gallant sacrifices have always defended freedom and democracy.
We have evolved to this great state through mass cooperation.
Heaven help us if we must, with determination and resolve.
No one wants war but remember "give me freedom or give me death".
When we have no choice, it isn't an arbitrary or glamorous. It is the people who elect those to represent their best interests that defend our freedoms and fellow man.
Wow what a media scandal: "How dare those brownies defend their borders and national sovereignty (which we pay so much lip service to.) After all, this was in Kuwaiti airspace.. We would never shoot at a Chinese drone flying along the Texas/Mexican boarder spying on us. Especially if China was ratcheting up war-rhetoric about 'bombing one of our nuclear facilities!' No. Never. We're the victim here. We would never call China a provocateurs for traveling half way across the planet (beyond it's borders) just to fly spy planes along the Texas/Mexican boarder. We would never subjugate another nation in a way we would not like. Unheard of. Let's bomb those brownies for this outrage!11"
get your facts straight. if it was a fighter jet like the article claims, the drone would have been destroyed.
su-25 are ground attach close air support bombers. they are not fighter jets and are not designed for air superiority or any other kind of air combat roles. it doesn't even have an air-to-air radar. it can only engage airborne targets visually with its guns or infra-red homing missiles that are almost never carried.
So tell us genius, how exactly did P-51s or F-86s shoot down other aircraft? I don't think these vintage aircraft had anymore sophisticated aiming equipment for their .50 cal cannons than the Frogfoot's 30mm. The reason why this MQ-1 wasn't shot down was pilot skill at engaging airborne targets, not the lack of Su-25 capes by itself. A-10 pilots regularly get engaged by Aggressor F-16s at Red Flag are able to successfully engage them with their 30mm if the 16s get close enough.
Here is an idea stop taking drones close to Iran, And this is some pretty damn weak propaganda for a WAR campaign you a$$hats. They FIRED***, did they scratch the paint? I mean seriously this article is ridiculous, its like saying the USA shot down an Iranian drone 16km away from Florida? Do you even think the USA would let a foreign drone get that close? Hypocritical.
Yes. Don't talk about actions we in the U.S. military would or would not take when you don't work with us...you're clueless.
they want war and i suggest the u.s give it to them
Why, because they shot at a drone? You are ready for war on that? It's not really a big deal.
I don't wanna to pay tax for this kind of freaky stuff.
they shoot you, fine; don't go there any more.
War is not the answer and we do not have money to start a new one.
Why does the lead in say 'First on CNN'? This was on Fox and AOL hours before CNN posted it.
This story is the most obnoxiously slanted piece i've read in months on CNN. To think that, "An unarmed U.S. predator drone peacefully photographing the persian gulf was maliciously shot down, unprovoked", is reason enough to invade YET ANOTHER country, then you better have the dough to pay for that. I'm still paying off the LAST TWO WARS you guys waged with the US Army. I'd say shame on CNN for pandering, but it'd be beating a dead horse..
What? Just now reporting what Foxnews has had on their front page all day???? Come ON! And the all important question is why in the hell is ANYONE just now reporting about this over a week after it happened?????? OOOOHHHH so that it wouldn't interfere with the freaking election, ah yes, the transparent admin........
I wonder if this actually even happened, and could this just be the start of a series of these type of stories to get the public on board for an inevitable conflict. Conspiracies abound . . . .
Obama is a socialist piece of crap that is too incompetent to understand what this action means. CNN doesn't want the secret out that this country re-elected an self centered idiot! That is why this is coming out so late!
You're just chapped because your boy lost.
Now just lie back, have a nice cup of tea, relax, there's a good boy.
No, we're just waiting for the gloating to stop, and the put up or shut up to start.
Obama administration killed bin Laden. Your guy couldn't! And Cheney tried to convince America Democrats would be too weak with military. Obama is the man! Romney had no plan, except to create a tax system where he could pay less taxes! We are all better off now! Go listen to Rush now. He will make you feel better...
I love Rush. You are talking about Geddy Le e and the boys, right? Oh, Limbaugh? actually, I think he's an idiot too.
Hi I'm President Obama and I assassinated a 16 year old American boy using one of my favorite war toys as show in this article and I got a Nobel Peace Prize for that.
Don't know whats worse, the fact that Iran can't shoot down an unmanned aircraft with no Air to Air capability or that CNN separates the US Coast Guard from US Military and doesn't even bother capitalizing it.
su-25 has as much air to air capability as a soldier with a shoulder fired infrared missile. except these infrared missiles are almost never carried by su-25 that don't even have an air-to-air radar. they likely used cannons. cannons carry 250 rounds of ammo. cannon fires at 3000 rounds per minute. that is 5 seconds of firing. could you shoot down a moving drone from a moving plane that is not designed to engage air targets in 5 seconds? i doubt anyone can.
Whats the big deal? I would expect them to try and shoot down a spy plane. why is this so alarming?
Iran did the right thing. What you Americans think? You own this planet?
If a stranger enters in your house, what would you do?
It was not in their airspace. Maybe they should follow international law created by the UN which they are a part of.
I was just screwing around... geeez.
NO WAR!!!! Dont believe this NONSENSE! NO MORE WAR
I'm sure two Iranian fighter pilots could take out a drone, this was just a little show and no reason to respond and get a big war going we have had enough of that. Obama is doing the right thing by not getting riled up, even if they shot it down its cheaper to keep building them than start a war. We could even pay Iran to protect our ships and its cheaper than war.
Finally someone that has his head and is rear wired together thank you:)
Cause trolling around a country with your military on full display isn't a form of threat at all...
That's why we let Russia run drills off NYC all the time right?
Funny you should mention that.
Lebanon was carved out Greater Syria to protect the Christians. Palestine was carved out of Greater Syria. The non-Muslins of both states came under decades of attacks, and Israel was carved out of Palestine to protect the Jews. The problem in the region is not the non-Muslims. It's how they are treated by militant Islam, and excuses the West finds for these violent mystics from an earlier age.
US Forces should blast those Iranians out of the sky bu our coward terrorist lover Hussein Obama wants to swab their rumps and award the Medal of Freedon to the terrorists who killed his Libyan ambassador. We have met the enemy it is Hussein Obama.
our enemy is people like you
sounds like richards going to fund a war for us since his republican azz is so rich ... your old cant wait for your generation to perish
Reading your post makes me believe that " Common sense is not common". You want our country to start another war ? Every credit card has a limit and we have reached that limit.
This story raises disturbing questions about Obama's priorities.
We have 4 more years of this. I hope we survive!
@ JustAGuy: The story just broke and already you're on the President's case. Of course we're going to survive this. We survived two wars under President Bush, didn't we? And please don't say Obama's weak; just ask the terrorists that have already been on the Predator's cross hair.
Good Lord, how about you just quit whining that your Nazi Robot didn't win the election and SALUTE YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?
Romney would have no idea how to handle this, he'd soil himself and ask the Joint Chief's of Staff for help, whereas Obama will steadily guide the response to this. Stop being a baby and obey your President of the United States... now get back to work
This is what happen when you put a monkey in Su-25 😀
Wow American people! U GUYS BELIEVE ANYTHING THE MEDIA PUT IN THE NEWS OR PAPER! DONT FORGET THIS HAPEEN IN LATE OCTOBER AND THE REPUBICANS OWN THE MEDIA;AND THEY ARE UPSET THAT OBAMA WON AGAIN! ALSO; DONT FORGET THE STOCK MARKET TOO THE REPUBLICANS OWN TOO! SO,U GUYS TELL THE REPUBLICANS TO SUCK IT UP ,THEY LOSTAND GET OVER IT AND STOP TRYING TO START A WAR BECAUSE ITS NOT HAPPENING AND LETS GET MONEY AND STOP HATING! LMAO
I stopped reading your response when you said "THE REPUBICANS OWN THE MEDIA"
DONT FORGET THIS HAPEEN IN LATE OCTOBER AND THE REPUBICANS OWN THE MEDIA
The Republicans own the media? I hope you're joking.... I just ripped my pants I was laughing so hard!
I was laughing with you
By the way, you owe me a new pair of pants....
yes i agree behind every media channel is a republican with a evil laugh
You're so dumb I'M losing brain cells.
once again, CNN covering for O'Commie
Oops. missed the REPUBICANS part. Now itMs even funnier. Might need new underwear after this...
"First On CNN"? Really? I heard this story early this morning on that most evil of evil news organizations, Fox. I doubt CNN would have even reported this if Fox hadn't broke the story.
Fox is not a news station. It is the Republican News Network. I had so much fun watching them squirm after election.
And of course you think CNN is fair and unbiased. Chris Matthews and Soledad O'Brien make Bill O'Reilly look like the Pope!
CNN is not a news station either. It's Obama campaign headquarters and Coverup Central.
True, but FOX is a complete train wreck. I vote for candidates, not parties and can not watch that drivel except to show my kids what biased news is so they recognize it.
CNN has some great reporters who are unbiased. Fox does not.
While I respect your opinion, I don't necessarily agree. It seems to me that CNN, MSNBC and the like tend to avoid stories that may reflect negatively on the administration. Fox is there to take the other side. Somebody has to.
"The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes."
Yes. The drone was apparently a symbol of peace, harmony and love from the peace-loving US. This is why flying drones in International air space will never be considered an act of aggression. Unless, of course, some evil force try to shoot down these symbols of love and hope! Then, and only then, will such acts be called acts of aggressions.
Was anyone injured?
No but the drones feelings were hurt.
So why does the last line of this article quote the israeli ambassador stating that "he didn't know if his country knew about this incident before the Pentagon did ?? Really stupid comment – as the recon drone was sending intel back to the US military. Why does this a smack of possible israeli propaganda and provocation – just in time for the US Prez Election ??? We need to watch both the israelis and the Iranians – one is just as goofy as the other !!!!!
Agreed. Was a really obvious silly thing to suggest that Israel knew more about our drone, which has two pilots.flying it on a us ship 200 ft from the Captain who has a direct link to the pentagon.
A subsonic drone has an aerial show put on by supersonic Iranian fighters. They do loops and rolls and fire their cool looking canons, all the while knowing we are watching it live. Got to love it, and now for political reasons we are calling it a possible act war of war and wondering if the Israelis knew... This just screams propaganda.
How can we cry about Iran shooting at our poor unmanned drone when it's just outside their airspace when we also routinely fly drones DIRECTLY OVER. After we break all the rules, we’ve got no right to cry. If we had any respect for the rule of law, our brave drones would not be constantly scoffing at the world community.
On a daily basis our drones invade the sovereignty of any small country that resists American interests while bravely avoiding countries like China, Russia, or the dozen oppressive regimes we prop up, such as Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia. Our drone and cyber wars have never been authorized by the people. In the old days, our acts of war used involve accountability.
I guess you chose to ignore that the drone was not in Iranian territory and was monitoring shipping. So you are not for Iran honoring international law? Wow. You ARE nuts!
How do we know the drone wasn't over Iranian air space? Do you really think the media would tell us something different? The US Government flies drones over our OWN airspace to spy on US Citizens.
Blah blah blah
A large number of posters need reminding that on 3 July 1988, the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes (CG-49)shot down Iran Air Flight 655 – a civilian jet airliner – as it flew over the Strait of Hormuz at the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, was flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, iAll 290 onboard including 66 children and 16 crew perished. The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.
To add insult to injury, the crew of the Vincennes were given a heroes welcome in their return home.
Iranian forces are capable of killing and rapping their own people in prison ,but are not capable of hitting any drone above international air space,because they may shoot themselves instead of hitting foreigners!!!!
Really ballsy. 16 miles off their shores, and when they fight back, we protest?
Yeah I completely agree, its like the USA is deliberately trying to start a war.
Wow... Now that's embarrassing! The Iranian airforce can't bring down a slow moving 250 mph drone after mulitple attempts? Even A-ROD could probably have done better....
Too bad they didn't blow it up. Drones are American terrorism in the Middle East.
In the words of Billy Madison "Everyone on this chat board is now dumber for having read your comment. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
I'm sorry, I must have missed your counter argument. The term state sponsored terrorism doesn't only apply to Middle Eastern governments. Those drones kill innocent Pakistanis every week.
The drone is Allah's greatest gift to America.
Time to make Iran a parking lot they want to play games and test us I don't think they will try it again. the next time those pilots will see allah.
That is exactly what Jesus would do.
Well, Jesus did flood the Earth and kill Everyone. Except Noah. So... Would that not make him the biggest mass murderer ever? Or are these just stories we can reject? So be careful what you think, my friend.
But I will say there is good and evil, and evil needs to be destroyed.
This incident just calls Iran's bluff. If Iranian military's elite force can't hit the most vulnerable asset of USA in that region- a slow moving, low flying, unmaneuverable remote controlled drone, then why worry about them? Israel will be advised to just relax.
They must've been using Guns. If not their missile guidance systems are a JOKE....
What the hell good is an unarmed predator?
most would say recon
Well it took less than a week to get this ball rolling. Really didn't matter which candidate won when it comes to Iran. Both have every intention on going to war with Iran.
Why couldn't obama or the press say this before nov 6th? Come on now
Obama is leading us all off the cliff. Our military is no exception. Wait a few years until the 'Jimmy Carter' treatment sets in. Our military will be humiliated and intimidated by our enemies on a regular basis. With this election we voted to kill America economically, militarily and spiritually. It's over.
you forgot "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"....
Yy are right! I mean look! The last four years we killed Osama, had solid economic growth and.
Yeah. The churches are all burning and socialists closed down wal mart!!
Nothing in your life is fundamentally different than 4 years ago. You are a conspiracy theorist drinking the Fox cool aide.
I looked for a "like" button Mr. Mister but alas, there is none. Consider this comment to be a thumbs-up. So glad I am not alone in reality, sometimes it feels that way.
First off it's "Kool Aid" you ridiculous tard. And solid growth? Where do you fools get this stuff?
Is it not a bad thing if you're unemployed and "nothing in your life is fundamentally different than 4 years ago"? On the other hand I now know I can get free contraceptives, so all is well.
Too much is too bad...So, everyone in the world will fight against American arrogance militarily and economically. America is anyway bankrupt of Spirituality for a long time...So, I believe that future generations of America will benefit if current America to its ground reality of what it is..
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us." Pentagon Press Secretary George Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
One has to compare the US response to this minor incident, in which no one and nothing got damaged. to the Israel attack on a US ship )the USS Liberty) in international waters in 1967..Unmarked Israeli fighter jets bombed the USS Liberty to destroy its antennae then sent gunboats to torpedo the ship to sink it. When the captain ordered the lifeboats afloat preparatory to abandoning ship, the Israelis moved closer and machine-gunned the inflatable rubber rafts, rendering them incapable of saving the lives of the American sailors.
Incredibly this undeclared act of war and aggression continues to be rewarded with billions of dollars in aid to Israel from the US. What hold does Isreal have over the US that prevents punitive measures being taken against it?
You crazy rag head- Israel is the real power and which ever nation stands against it that nation shall be destroyed. The US must tread carefully.
They were testing him. lol
Iran is toast. President Obama won't have nothing to lose by helping Israel go after them and the racist GOP won't be able to whine about it since they are so eager to attack Iran.
The liberals are the ones dividing the country into whites, blacks and latinos.
That must be why romneys HQ had 99% white people and obamas HQ looked as diverse as America really is.
Ignoring that there are differences (opportunity, equity, justice, economic, etc.) between how whites, blacks, and latinos are treated IS why they get accused of being racist, though I think blanketing the entire GOP with the label "racist" is extreme. Are some? Yeah probably, but some liberals are too. Wait, I'm sorry, I'm confused... what does any of this have to do with the article? I dunno. I'm going to bed. Goodnight crazy people, goodnight.
Obama is fake he knew didn't speak up
What the HELL are you smoking??? Obama wont do ANYTHING! He's too busy appeasing the Muslim Brotherhood! If it doesn't feed Obama's EGO, it isn't on his plate! The LAST THING he is going to do is draw attention to ANYTHING near Libya!
The GOP party is NOT racist! Who are you kidding? Did you have a look at the exit polls? 25% of the total electorate was African American of which 24% voted for Obama or better said 94% of all Afirican Americans who voted, voted for Obama where ONLY 45% of Caucasions voted for Romney. If the GOP was racist, like you slander them to be, then wouldn't their vote the 94% vote for Romney. No it wasn't Look who is racist now according to your logic or lack thereof? Stop saying the GOP is racist, the hard data does not support your slander. I am GOP who would support a candidate of color anyday if they supported my values, of which my number one value is not supporting a candidate who believes women have the right to choose is they want their babies arms and brains sucked out of their bodies and thrown in the trash. We fight for freedom which and yet support a candidate that is willing to see a baby thrown in the trash at 3 months post conception and call this a right???
When a US drone flies within 16 miles off the Iranian coast, it's still in "international airspace". But when a Russian submarine comes within 250 miles off the US coast, it infiltrates US waters. Love the double standards here.
Great point. Remember how we shot at that Russian sub? (not)
Remember how we shoot at Russian Bears that head towards our airspace? (not)
Totally the same.
In fact, the Russian sub was 275 miles off the US coast, according to CNN.
ITs Not a war machine
Interesting. Why bother declassifying it if nothing is going to be done about it? I fail to see the strategy in this.
The Iranian air defense can't even hit a 250 mph drone after multiple attepts? Wow, that is embarrassing...
Well, a certain hypocrite can't get his spellings right after so many years of schooling(did you pass high school?) and America is still number one.Ha ha.
So, if Iran had a drone 16 miles off of our shores do you think we wouldn't shoot it down??
And it's going to get here how???
The drone was only 16 miles away from Iranian border, if we take what this administration says at face value. for haven's sake, why was the drone out there so close to Iranians at the first place? is Iran aggressive here or the U.S? can we tolerate an Iranian drone just 16 miles away from our east or west coast? is common sense lost in this admin. It seems, the Obama admin needs to redefine the term "aggressive"!
Hey Carlos, go back to Mexico
hey hillbilly dont pro-create and go die...
Brilliant, what is wrong with you? That was a racist, ignorant comment from you. You show a lack of education with your argumentative skill.
Where did your grandfather come from? Tribal native Americans?! You are an immigrant too...you get it??
Stop living in the past, it's the 21st century for God's sake!
YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO EUROPE .FIRST UNLESS YOU ARE A RED .......... FIRST COME FIRST OUT
This was just a message and a test of our reaction/capabilities. Just like during the cold war when the pilots on each side would pull up alongside each other and flip the bird. They could have shot it down if they wanted to. There is a cannon mounted under the nose, laser guidance for the munitions, and four pods holding 20 rockets each plus two more for fuel tanks or bombs. And the wake turbulance from flying in front of it could have brought it down. We'll hear the rest of the story in a few months, or via wikileaks. I like how the story about the other drone was that they landed it with minimal damage, now it's that they built a model of it to display. I don't believe a word either side says.
I wonder if Obama will apologize when Iran Nukes us
Do you apologize to your wife when you trip, fall, and your sausage accidentally falls into another mans bung hole?
only when its yours
i wonder if u will apologize
Agreed dude just dont understand it. Unacceptable.
they cant hit a hovering drone? Sad.
Sorry but predator drones don't hover. They fly like planes, not nearly as fast as jets but they certainly don't hover.
Iranian has the right to defend their air space.
except for the fact that you don't read. Had you read, you would know the drone was over international waters, away from iranian air space, in fact the jet was over international waters when it tried to shoot the drone down, an act of war.
why your drone is in persian gulf?
Yes, it does – but it DOES NOT have the right to shoot down (or attempt to shoot down) a drone in International Airspace, any more than the U.S. does.
Did you read the story? The Drone was NOT in Iranian air space.
We were never in their air space.
Did you even read the article??
It was international airspace.
We should slaughter 800 villagers.
Can't detect sarcasm much? XD
I can't imagine why they would want to shoot down a drone flying around their country. Doesn't make any sense to me. I would welcome Iranian drones flying over the US.
You should read before you post. The drone was in international air space, fool. Maybe you're a drone!
Did you not read what he said "flying AROUND"
You should read before you you try and act smart
"U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down."
Drone was flying in international waters, however was too close to the border, so Iranians just gave a signal by intentionally missing it. Moreover speed of their aircraft SU-25 max at 590 mph exceeds speed of drone significantly max at 135 MPH). They were doing multiple circles. If drone was in their legitimate air space then they would've shot it down. Hitting drone in international air space would've caused a big trouble for them. Iranians may be stupid, but they are not THAT stupid.
The Iranians might not be...but their leaders are...;)
You think the max speed of the Su-25 is only 590 mph, lol
North Korea and China is threatening to nuke the USA, and it seems the US is readying itself to go to war with Iran don't get the idea here.
china has never threaten us with nukes... we are jus afraid of them and they have nukes get it right
Where did you get this information? I have not heard any such threats come from anywhere. N Korea just doesnt like us, but hasnt said they will nuke us. China is equal.
I have to say, this nation has divided into political parties and racial lines. We must eliminate this divide. Please people, we can come together and resolve all of these issues. Repubs, Dems, Indies, we can work together if we want.
We do not want to be divided if Iran, China, Terrorist or N Korea nukes us. Then we will fall. Remember the govt is there BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE. Non divisive.
What to believe. Thanks to technology we can see everything it happens. Just look around, the world is already mess up, .is easier to figure the truth .why sacrifice more life's in war if we know that, will lead the whole word to live with more difficult more illness. And more damage to our ozone ....if the world is going to end is cuz human will set himself the time, nature is trying to fix itself, but we don't see it.nature. send u a massage, nuclear power is acelerating, natural disaster. Also tell u that we might have a change to live a better future
Aren't we supposed to go to war when something like this happens? Where's our fighters? After all, they nearly damaged a drone.
do you really want to go to war and cause us more debt .. do you have the money for this war... we are still trying to clean up bush's war
I think he was being facetious...
They should give simple math equations as captcha before you post. That would probably help clear up a lot of these uneducated posts.
Better if it were at least calculus problems, then we could dispense w most of the feeble minded social science, humanities & business graduates' comments.
Time to arm predators with EMP weapons. Goodbye Iranian planes+pilots.
So its a Kamakasi US Drone..Wouldn't the emp take out the drone too?
i think......lets play a game with iran.....bombomommoooooooooo...
Yes, it would take out the drone, but that's the point. If it's shot at and can't return to base... FRAZZLE. eEEEERERrrrrRRRR KABOOM.
I don't have any liking for Iran or Pakistan due to their brand of militant and extremist Islam. But having said that, I still think that the USA s a big bully for not respecting other countries' sovereignity by blatantly sending its drones and planes to spy on the countries and violating their airspace.
In this case, if the article is correct, then the drone was not in Iranian air but international air space. Much like the russian sub that was off the east coast a while back. Close but not in our jurisdiction.
So how would the US feel if Iran flew drones 12 miles off the coast of NYC? Come on people it's time to start treating others with the respect that we'd like to receive from them.
Oh my! The Pentagon has it's panties all in a bunch because two Soviet Cold War era Iranian jets allegedly fired on a US Drone, when at the very same time the US has launched over 200+ Drone-Platform originated airstrikes inside of Pakistan and killing mostly civilians. Please pardon me while I go shed some crocodile tears for Fort Fumble on The Potamac River who still thinks Bush is in the White House and has Generals with a Dr Strangelove Complex.
I know. look at the pics of that old goat of a plane. The drone could have kicked it's ass. and why did they miss is my question.
Go back to sticking your head in the sand, since you don 't have a brain!
Why send such provocation across the globe when we ourselves cannot accept similar provocation? The administrations priorities are all over the place. Instead of securing our borders it is more interested in playing killing games in other countries and in the process it will create more terrorists who will come back to haunt us.
So, this happened 18 miles from Iran, and 4000 miles from the US, and it's the Iranians who are being aggressive?
Funny how some people think they are objective when they are blind as a bat.
Predator drone. P R E D A T O R D R O N E
This administration can't take it when the media confronts it much less a hostile country.
I recently had a discussion regarding Bengahzi with a Limaugh disciple who was pretty riled up. After he got over the initial obligatory name calling he was presenting some decent talking points until he actually said. "We had drones in the air capable of guiding Hellfire missles from 20 miles out." This was actually the end of his battle plan. I waited for more but none came. I pointed out that missiles were a very poor choice of hardware for a rescue mission. Primarily being that they are one-way only and after that if they don't kill everyone within two blocks they will certainly defen them or create all kinds of unpredicable mayhem. The only rescue missions I've ever heard going successfully in Libya required Airwolf. (Factoid: Airwold was successfully used for Libyan rescue in Season 1 "Shadow of Hawk Part 2" and the 1984 straight to TV movie Airwolf.). One of the primary problems with Libya is that its a a very big desert, and once you get to a city, the citizens tend to have rocket launchers. It's a Libyan cliche but true. This actually begged the question as to what exactly anyone could have done to recue people from a non-fortified recently aquired building surrounded by hostile neighbors without risking the lives of far more people than were already on the ground. (Factoid: There doesn't appear to be any public history on the origins of the Benghazi consulat or any US building in Libya other than the offical Embassy which was established in 2006.). As rediculous as it sounds, I believe it would take at least several mach two attack helicopters.
Or an AC-130 http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/27/U-S-Had-Two-Drones-AC-130-Gunship-and-Targets-Painted-In-Benghazi-But-Obama-Didn-t-Pull-The-Trigger
We don't know the real story but I have read that there were resources available. The attack supposedly lasted 7-8 hours. If that is true we left those Americans to die. If it is a matter of we messed up and made a bad call own up to it, apologize and move on but to try and cover it up is disgraceful.
Oh course it's a well known fact that all diplomats overseas swallow an IFF pill so that AC-130 gunships can identify them as friend or foe in the dark in the middle of a riot/assault. Then they can fire thousands of rounds of IFF bullets that will miss only the good guys, while the predator hellfire missile will only send those who truly deserve it to hell and somehow not kill those friendlies in the buildings they flatten. And of course this president who's carried out more drone strikes killing more taliban and terrorist leaders then the previous admin....this time.....this time...said no.
I wonder if Obama will apologize when Iran decides to Nuke us
CNN = PRAVDA.
Adjusting the News. CNN = PRAVDA.
Next timne send a well armed drone with missles and take out the Iraninans for crossing in to international air space and firing on it. Regardless of missin gon purpose, doesn't matter. Do a flip over and take them out with the missles.
Wow , all nut jobs on tonight including a bunch of angry Republicans sulking by insulting Obama. Knock yourselves out. You are very entertaining. Have another Bud Light.
Oh, give us a frickin break – you know if this had happened in 2004 under Bush, you'd be off your dial over it.
if this happend during bush we wouldnt of cared because we were busy with iraq and afghan did u forget about that .. yea crap obamas still trying to clean up
Efu, that's BS and you know it (unless of course, you're a total idiot).
obviously your the idiot and cant accept obama is mine and your president !!!
efu, i can accept a bad president for a second term. i mean what choice do i have. and it'll be a republican cleaning up Obamas mess next election, but i doubt he'll blame it on the previous administration.
whats bull crap is you republicans blaming everything on obama when he is cleaning up your mess.... we put up with 8 years of bush suck it up and deal with 4 more years of obama
But they said it happened in international airspace... Don't understand what your point is. I guess the US had the right to shoot down stuff in international airspace as well inclusive of the Iranian jets.
My neighbor broke my remote controlled car. Can I declare war on him? By the way, the car was in his yard when it happened
"The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter." If these guys did not "leak" the news to CNN, we would never know.
I expect more info will be leaked out re Benghazigate. The truth will come out. i also expect harry reid and his senate will not want to do anything about it.
Obama should tell them: Baby Don,t play with Dorne that is not a toy !!
do you play with RQ170? we can do all thing that we need it.
To those claiming that CNN or the MSM sat on this until after the election to protect Obama, be sure to carefully read the first sentence "...the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday". So it appears that CNN and the MSM published the data as soon as the Pentagon released it.
Obama was informed the day it happened. He sat on it.
Wisely and properly.
Let Obama destroy America and keep on watching until he finishes the job. The American people have elected him to do this job. I believe it is a good job for him.
Bush started it all stop blaming people. His job is probably 10 times harder than your. He might be making a desion on how to keep America safe while your just sitting here complaining about him
i wonder why the usa keeps lying about iran ,,, they r the only country in the world who invades and kills innocent people all over,,, stop all this violence and spend the money here where we need it,,,,,
Why the hell a week later??????????????????
You do know the intelligence community is not eager to put stuff in the paper, right?
Come on! If a Republican was President this would have been 'leaked' like two days before the election and you know it!
calimom.... notice how you said IF.... grow up and unite as 1 nation please people like you are why we are divided and we are only hurting ourselves
why the hell are we finding out a week later????????????????????????
Military privileged information. NSA had to gather intel before this going public. There is a timing for any action.
Do you really need an answer, or do you already know?
maybe you call the pentagon and ask them why they waited til today to release the information!
Ask Obama. He was informed the day it happened.
Update: Reuters reports our brave drone is "undamaged and returned safely to its base"
Droney is now home but has PTSD,discharged from service & left to become a homeless addict, buzzing around skid row.
Isreal is the reason why USA exists. US must be willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for the Greatest nation on earth: Isreal.
It is called ISRAEL not Isreal you muppet
. Like everything else you dum Americans don't know how to pronounce or spell. However, I have nothing but sympathy for the Americans. It is a miracle that they can even read and write when you see the state of there schools. Dummy , my country is prounced Isreal .
But when the US's ally Isreal attacked a Turkish ship in International waters killing nine Palestinian activists, why didn't the US declare the incident "an act of war"?
Aha! Maybe because Turkey is a member of NATO and an attack on one member is considered an attack on them all? Then the US might have to condemn Isreal.
One can imagine the US troops charging into battle shouting: "Remember the USS Liberty"
You must be a crazy Arab
You should update the wikipedia page and google maps, since they have it spelled Israel. Troll.
israel only exist because of the usa if we stopped backing you guys up you would be raped up the ass so quick by everyone else in the middle east
efu is just crazy about ass rape!
Iran is a land of NUTSOS