By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
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"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
This is an act of war. Let's see if Obama will do anything about it. Or if he is just a paper tiger.
Grrowll. Obama he say" nobody was killed, big deal"
Why wasn't this reported BEFORE the election?
Or would it have conflicted with Obama's "I have Iran totally under control" theme?
So when Israel shot up the US spy ship Liberty back in the 60's killing 34 US servicemen, was that an act of war?
you are right. The Pres should have sent the entire 5th fleet after thier asses. When we caught up with them, even in Iran, we should have just bombed them to oblivion. Teach them to mess with the US by God. Thats what you would have done right?
I say if the United States gets attacked in the next 4 years, I say we deserved it for re-electing Obama and I don't care if its 3000 dead or 3 million, the more that suffer the better!
I didnt vote for Obama but hoping people die to prove a point is bs.
I see you're upset about the President being reelected, but to want the U.S. to be attacked is a bit... I don't know. I can't think of a politically correct way to put it. I think you might want to seek mental health counseling.
blameobama – who do you think will attack the USA? The Iranians? The Russians? Canada? Just wondering.
pardon me sir but you have spilled your hatred on my chat. plz clean up after you make a mess.
If you really believe that, you are one sick puppy.
Muchas gracias. ?Como puedo iniciar sesion?
You wouldn't want the American people to have all the facts prior to the election. It's even tough to get the Left leaning press to report the facts that ARE known if they aren't favorable to Mr. Obama.
There is nothing criminal about Obama not telling the public about the incident prior to the election. Does the public need to know?
Neither was the team that killed Bin Laden but we found out it was Seal Team 6 .That should have never known , but the administration did not have a problem telling us that.
Not to be concerned, at 6 pm EST, President Obama is addressing this issue to the American public and explan to them he will make a full apology to the Iranian government.
Can't believe he's waiting until 6 pm tonight. I mean, why not get on TV NOW so we can see you and bow?
You people are vile and pathetic. Obama could be the 2nd coming of Christ and you'd still hate him with all of your vicious bile. So unpatriotic. So ignorant. You both deserve to die.
perhaps this was intended to gather capabilities intelligence. forget the trees folks look for the forest.
Can we have a round of apologies please?? And, there must be a patriot out there who can be blamed.
You know I meant that the Americans were testing the Iranians – right?
CNN YOU SUCK, sitting on this info.
We will bow to the Iranians and every other Muslim country. I wouldn't be the least bit surprise to be under Sharia law by the end of Obama's 2nd term.
Would like some cheese with that Whine?
Wait a minute, you said we've been under socialism for four years now and Sharia law too. Americans voted for Obama again, so I guess that means the majority of Americans like socialism and Sharia law. You have to admit, this must be true, or your premise has to be false.
Just to make sure you know half of the Americans did not vote for Obama, he won because of the electoral vote not the popular vote.
"Dani CA", Obama won the popular vote overall as well as the electoral. Look at http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president and you'll see that Obama got 61+ million to Romney's 58+ million.
You're an idiot. Sorry, just no other polite way to say it. Sure hopeyou don't have any plans to start breeding anytime soon. And if you don't like our govt feel free to leave. I'm sure you would be very happy in Russia, Iran, NK, etc. You and the rest of the wingnuts had a chance to change it, and failed. I am assuming you voted of course.
The only change I have seen from Obama is taxes rising, health care costs rising, hate, Wefare, and unemployment is rising. I see going down the amount of taxes given to the coffers because no one can get a job or have given up. How long before the wealthy leave or move their headquarters to another country? I will tell you not long. Maybe it is time for the wealthy liberals to put up or shut up. They will gladly take mine but when it comes to theirs that is a different story. If Liberals wanted be "fair" to everyone, they wouldn't be wealthy they would have already done it because it was right. They won't do it unless it is law.
You guys are a bunch of whiners. Now you know how we felt when GW stole the 2000 election. If you offered a good canidate maybe you could win.....
STOLE the election!?!? Who's whining now. Get over it. If the SCOTUS had not ruled you lunatic liberals would STILL be counting!
... and we all know that the SCOTUS is a model of integrity and impartiality.
LMAO – Really? I have a pet hamster that has more love of country than Hussein Obama. He will take down the country with your help I'm sure.
Let me see...He got more votes in enough states to get 270 electoral votes...How was it that he stole it?
You've got a lot of nerve to mention whining...12 years ago and you're still crying about Bush/Gore. The biased left leaning media vetted a recount of Florida after that election that clearly showed Bush won. But go ahead, live in the past and by all means, do not let the facts distort what you wish to believe.
Well, the Mig-23s were in the shop ...
So if chinese drones were off the california coast and 2 F-14s shot them down would that not be the same?
No because to statists on the left/right don't think like that
Difference is that China is not fighting a war (with bullets) in the region.
If you look up on this thing called the internet, you would understand what international waters/airspace means.
F-14's have been retired for a while now.
"International airspace" just like the last one they shot down was in "international airspace"
Any country respond to Spying. Yes, you are in International water (if that is a case), which I doubt it, but your camera/weapon is in Irannian territory. US has very advanced spying Sattelite, use them than sending Drone.
Iranian will fight, so do not mess around, unless you want to start war.
LOL SU-25's!! haha
the Iranian military wouldn't last a week
And we all know who would win that war, huh?
They can't hit a drone. I'm not so sure they can fight a conventional war.
So if you're walking past my house on the sidewalk and look in my window, I would have the right to pull out a shot gun and shoot you? Is that correct?
Yes, you would.
You do realize that the U.S. Navy (alone) could severely crush the entire Iranian military within days (if not hours) if it wanted to (by non-nuclear means).
Iran has a military that is outdated, inexperienced and poorly trained.
Bring it on Iran!
NO, Netanyahu. Jesus Christ, we do NOT need another war that is projected to cost 10x Iraq/Afghanistan.
I don't buy for a second after restraining themselves for so long that he Iranians would suddenly fire on one of our drones. I don't. Look behind this and you're going to see some neocon or neocon group involved. I will never support these people wasting more of our money on some worthless, backwater desert country in the Middle East.
Thats right, it's a secret left wing conspiricy. Everyone knows that.
Russians did same thing before attacking Georgia.
Call the UN and have them send a strongly worded letter condemning the action...that will show them.
CNN admits Obama has had atleast 4 times the drone kills of Bush. Regardless of who specifically is killed with Obama's drones.
brain damaged americans call ron paul a nut job..... too bad for america... good luck all.
The Orwellian man of peace.
Because to statists on the left, murders by Obama is good, while statists on the right think that murders by Bush were good.
hmmmm....just think.. if it had been an Israeli drone.....
Are we sure, it was not?
IRG asking for trouble, everyone knows the old saying – be careful what you wish for it might come true
I'm sure we'll be firing unmanned "diplomacy bombs" back there way anytime now...
So this is the start? The start of the best is yet to come? The use of this to perhaps begin another armed engagement to bring a crisis into play to take advantage of it to bring the americans together and support POTUS? I will no longer use his name as he is as if dead because of his high crimes and misdemeanors that go unpunished. God may forgive him, but rest assured POTUS will be judged for his atrocities when he face God at judgement day. Thank God we only have to suffer him another 4 years. may they pass quickly!
HaHahhaaah you funny.
Speak English please.
You can use POTUS. I'll use the correct term...POS.
On a completely unrelated note, from the Daily Beast today:
Many Iranians See Nuke Talks, No Military Attack With Obama Reelection
Do something Obama, Its all you. They put you there a 2nd time. Get to work!
This mentality is part of the problem. Should the federal government help when it can, sure. More importantly, individual American citizens should be better prepared for disasters and work together locally to help each other out. That's what American citizens did in the past when self-reliance was more rooted in our society. We need to pray and send help now to all Hurricane Sandy victims. We must also learn from this situation. YOU CANNOT DEPEND ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Perhaps you missed his first term - he was re-elected to continue doing exactly what he did before. Nothing.
Interesting how this comes out AFTER the election. We have a weak leader as POTUS and this poor excuse of a president will be in office another 4 years. America is in DANGER from within and from outside. Unfortunately the only way half of Americans who voted for Obama will wake up is when there's even more MISERY. Perhaps then we will be united as a country. To my fellow American patriots who are awake and did not vote for this fraud of a president prepare for bad times, diversify your money into hard assets, join forces with like-minded patriots, and starve the federal government by legally minimizing your tax exposure like starting a home based business. God bless.
Spoken like a true Republican. You are a fine example of the unpatriotness of the Republican party.
As a matter of fact Ken, I am not a registered Republican, I have no party affiliation. Please do not make assumptions and gross generalizations. Yes I am a patriot. A patriot is someone who loves their country. A Democrat can be a patriot, a Republican can be a patriot, and so can many other people of different political spectrums be a patriot.
So in other words you to bankcrupt your own country? you call that patriotic?
Some Americans are just plain nuts..!!
Bobpitt, do not put words in my mouth. I do not want to bankrupt my country besides the federal government is doing a fine job of that on its own. I am simply advocating Americans to minimize the amount of taxes they pay to the federal government LEGALLY. Why continue to feed a system that is out of control and will eventually collapse? Pick up a history book and show me how many countries have survived economically using fiat currency and excessively printing currency.
Yeah... avoit paying taxes just like Italy Greece, Portugal, and Spain.. see how good it is not to pay taxes?
You are a M0r0n
Resorting to insults prove you are intellectually incapable of having an adult conversation. I am advocating for LEGALLY minimizing taxes paid to the federal government in order to fight the overspending that is taking place. As for Greece, Italy, Spain, and any other Socialist leaning country the majority of their financial problems did not come from people paying LESS taxes. On the contrary, taxes are much higher in Socialist leaning countries. The problem is overspending. As stated before, pick up a history book or an economics book and tell me how Socialism has worked. Don't respond if all you have in you are insults.
Folks were told that this administration was not being honest with the American people. What more proof do we need?
Getting a headstart in the 2016 elections?
This is just one of many stories I'm certain will come out now that the election is over. The MSM has been sitting on many recent stories that could have damaged Obama. If reported earlier, they know we would have thought, "Oh yeah, do we really want Obama the Wimp dealing with the belligerent Iranians?". Life is good when you have the media in your back pocket, meanwhile the rest of us get screwed.
You know, instead of complaining on line about the MSM...start emailing the sponsors...tell them you will not buy their products because they support a biased media... put your money where your mouth is...maybe that will wake up a few of the MSM heads... maybe...
Meanwhile back at the White House Obama he say "what is all of the excitement about"? "I have to take a vacation after that hectic run for reelection". "I'll look at this matter in a couple of weeks".
He has a meet and greet with Beyonce and Jayz
If they can't shoot down a non-stealth drone, what chance do they think they have against F-22's and F-35's?
lies lies lies ya
None.. but f 35 isnt even done being developed and f 22 is not in combat use...
FIrst off there are not any F-35's, second, F-22 cannot be maintain in but a few places, and an F-22 Carrying external bombs is no longer stealthy.
wrong, there are at least 63 fully functional F-35s
Mike, ever hear of deception? They may be doing this intentionally, acting as if they can't. But keep in mind they are deceivers and have Russian and Chinese technology. I am inclined to believe what you say, but I wouldn't put anything past these alley cats and defilers of women. They for sure will use Obama's nuclear gift to them to attempt the destruction of Israel and in Obama's way of looking at things he would welcome that – Israel goes away and Muslims are appeased and welcome him into their inner fold with double the promised number of virgins. I am sure Michelle will love that! Remember, Urkle promised that the best is yet to come and over 60000000 possible US citizens including dead people, an untold number of illegals and zombies voted Urkle back in. All hail the kink!
It is time to chase all US poofters from bases around the World. and stay home in Usrahell working fields upgrade infrastructure increase living standards for all, remove all criminals from Govt. posts and banking , and be a good example
It's all you Obama, what r you going to do? No one to blame take care of it. Your voters put you there again. Now do something.
It's all Bush's fault.
Bush don't like black people
So what should the administration do, go to war? Sanctions are currently in place against Iran from multiple nations; including the US. Let's hear your definitive advice to the president vice "do something".
those sanctions must be working really well (they prevented N Korea from getting a Nuke....oh wait...my bad).
Time to play golf!
Your Damn Right, Luluie! Dear Mr. President strap on some Balls, and do something about it. Since we do not use bayonets anymore maybe we can fight back. Make this Country Proud! So far you have half the country voting against you. Lets see if you can leave a good legacy. Oh, and by the way dont get into more debt while doing what you have to do.
Man you are hurting.... the black man out smart you ..!!
Don't you worry. Obama is in charge, just like he's in charge in New Jersey – and aren't THEY lovin' it?
why do people trust "elected officials", nevermind, we know its all a pack of lies.
I agree... Obama should've taken a stronger stance against natural disasters. Now that Obama's in charge for another 4 more years, there will no doubt be countless more hurricanes and earthquakes and what-not! Read my lips... no more disasters!
*sigh* but seriously... what's your point? That FEMA is still a bureaucratic nightmare? That, being a federal agency, it's still horribly inefficient? I don't think Obama, or any president, is going to fix that anytime soon. There's a lot more wrong with FEMA than right.
Excellent point. But that would require actually working!
The Iranians shouldn't waste the jet fuel, obama will give them the drones they want, they're muslim buddies, remember?
Yea, why the hell didn't Obama stop that hurricane!
Why did it take a week for the citizens of the USA to hear about this??? More incompetence from Obama. Those Iranian jet pilots should have had to swim back to shore.
it took a week for us to hear about it because.... ELECTIONS!!! *sigh* I have a feeling many more stories like this will be coming out soon.
Just like we're about to find out what he meant when he was caught on the hot mic telling Medvedev he'll have more flexibility when he's re-elected. If you thought Obama's policies were bad when he had to run for re-election, just wait to see what they're like when he has nothing to lose. We're in for a world of hurt!
Not incompetence...yet. This was a case of keeping it quiet before the election.
The reason we're just now hearing about Iran firing on an American drone is not because of Obama's incompetence. It's because CNN didn't want to say anything about it until after the election.
Unbelievable. So Iran fires on us on November 1st, and we find out about now on November 8th.
I'm curious. Why the delay?
Is it because the government hid it from us? Gee we should kind of know about these things when they happen. Might affect an election.
Is it because the media sat on it to protect Obama? Wouldnt surprise given the fact that CBS interview with Obama about Benghazi was parceled out in drips and drops for 2 months. They hid details from that interview that clearly made Obama seem like he was hiding the truth.
I have no faith in this President, nor in the media that is so biased in his favor and that it would forfeited its journalistic integrity.
The Iranians know that Obama won't do crap about it.
All of those who represent a threat to the US and its interest no Obama won't do anything about anything they do and they are on the move now.
Silly wabbit, Mooslimbs don't kill udder mooselimps.
Obama should apologize immediately for our mistake
Why? he never has before.
Hilarious. But seriously....
I'm sorry, until I see pics or video..it didn't happen.
What will convince you? Perhaps they don't have it because the tape also has sensitive information on it.
Really? There was a pentagon briefing, and it was reported on CNN, both of which are in Obama's pocket. Meanwhile, Obama is trying to tell us that all is right with the world. Why would they lie about this? Plus, they didn't disclose this information until today, a week later, after Obama lied his way into office again. What part of that don't you believe?
Hilarious. That's all CNN has to say about it? The Obama administration didn't report this because it was right before the election? You freaking hacks. Does that not say it all about not only the media, but this administration and their withholding of information here, Benghazi and probably lots of other areas. Reminds me of Yahoo news too. They are now spouting off about how Social Security is unsustainable. Really? Now you decide to get in the game rather than covering for Obama? After the election? They are all complicit and should be ashamed.
CNN reporting? Lies, all lies.
This is a HUGH sign of the respect our president has earned from foreign countries.... I really enjoy the fact that CNN didnt release this until now...wonder how long they had knowledge of this story.
Let Obama keep bowing down to the middle east...in the end we ALL will be bowing down to them...
When was the last time Obama DID NOT bow to a foreign nation, if not the UN, et al?
Two Iranian warplanes fire upon an unarmed drone, and MISS?!?
Canada should be worried. When Iran fires a long-range nuke at the U.S. and misses...
We might get lucky and it will hit Mexico.
did somebody make another Youtube video.....that can be the only reason, right?
And we didn't hear about this until after the election..shocking..
I wonder if Obama even knows about it. Maybe one of his hoop friends will inform him on the court.
Or do you mean his hip-hoop friends?
Last week, huh? Just getting around to reporting it now, huh? Transparent administration? lol.
happened before elections-gee CNN hiding more things as to not sway the vote to go their way? cover up?
THIS HAPPENED A WEEK AGO. THANKS MSM!
I am sure Obama is sending flowers and blaming it on a video!
Obama's apology to the Iranians will be the lead story on the news tonight!
Obama may have won reelection but we ALL lost!!!
"WE"?? Maybe you lost but 72% of the electorate didn't!
In four years even more folks will be dependent of handouts for the govt. It is really a brilliant election strategy. "Hey, I will keep giving you free stuff, they are going to make you go to work."
I am a Libertarian and do not agree 100% with either party, but the US is going to be Ruled by a Democrat for MANY years to come.
It isn't gonna be pretty.
Republicans keep getting it wrong on social issues, but the Dems are wrong on the economic ones.
Once the economy is toast the social stuff isn't going to matter at all.
If two SU-25s couldn't shoot down a sub-sonic drone, there's not much to worry about from the Iranian Air Force.
Have we apologized yet for allowing our Drones to nearly
get in the way of their bullets? If not, our President will no doubt be doing so shortly.
No worries. We have recently been assured by our President, and the voters just confirmed, that Obama is a foreign policy genius and he has everything under control like no one else possibly could.
Just ignore the fact that you see the world coming apart at the seams on his watch. Doesn't mean a thing. All he has to do is talk more!
Spoken like an ignorant redneck ick from Houston. you related to Rick Perry?
Yo homie, did you get your obamaphone yet? Hit me up when u do! I know you aint got no job, but damn man you be busting some killer new raps on yo moms computer! HOLLA AT A PLAYA!
Congratulations on nailing those ignorant rednecks – oh, by the way, when speaking in English, the apostrophe in 'couldn't' is after the 'n'. Sweep your own porch before you start throwing out comments about somebody else's, please.
SU-25 is designed for ground attack, not air to air.
Manned or unmanned, it's still a US aircraft? Why was this allowed to go unanswered? Are they waiting for more real time information?
"Stop! Or ....we'll say STOP again!" – This President's best response.
Wouldn't want to offend anybody. Might start a riot.
Hold on there CNN... so NOW it's your job to report news?
It is sad to see the posts by some of the disgruntled republicans out there. No respect at all for the president. The patriotic thing to do when you candidate doesn't win is not to pine and wine like a dog in a cage it is to support your president! 4 more years whether you like it or not so stop your crying.
I actually agree to some point. But please don't make it seem like only the right wing does stuff like this. Have you forgotten what the left did when Mr. Bush was President? I am no fan of the man, but he is my legally elected President and I will give support for the most part.
What the hell does that have to do with the Iranians firing on our drones? They are testing us again and I'm sure Obama will send a strongly worded letter. Problem solved.
Obama is a pushover! Problem NOT solved. The only problem Obama has solved is how to let the lazy welfare class that dont want to work, leach off all our tax money. Hes done an outstanding job with that!
I wonder what video they saw that made them want to shoot at us...
Good point. Obviously our fault. We shoud bow and apologize.
Totally agree. Republicans should show the same gracious respect that Democrats showed to George Bush.
Sure. Just like all the libs did when Bush won a second term.
I have zero respect for Obama, and just as much for liberals. You all wanted Captain No Balls Socialism. Those of us with a brain wanted the guy with actual experience. Even after 4 years, jugears couldn't lead his way out of a paperbag. So shove your "respect" where the sun don't shine.
Respect is earned....simple as that.
We learned from the Dem's about whining after 2 terms with President Bush. Democrats never showed one iota of respect for him or the office. Is Obama going to blame George for the next 4 years now also?
If you want respect, you need to earn it. Why wasn't notice of this incident published before the election?
The same way you supported W.?
I've got news for you Zack, 49+ million of us didn't vote for Obama and don't support his regime. His covering up of Benghazi and now this event days before the election shows that he does not have any respect for the US public and that he has zero foreign policy skills, unless you considering bowing down to our enemies to be a display of leadership. It is going to get much, much worse before it gets better. BTW, I hope you lose your job as a direct result of Obama's re-election as we are starting to see it already happening.
No respect at all. My America died because of him. Your turn. That debt is coming at you at full speed and going on J. Leno, playing 110 rounds of golf, giving away Obama Phones, attacking businesses and highly productive people isn't going to help. But like I said, your turn. The GOP now talks about moving left. They will go without me. I was raised and I have lived with a set of principles that are out of place in a pop culture. Personal responsibility, personal initiative, risk taking and reward, individual liberties. In 4 years you will have a debt of over $20.4 trillion and you will have NO way to pay it back. When the borrowed money stops YOU will have to deal with the resulting anarchy.
Why would iran be afraid of your spineless fraudulant president, hell he won't lift a finger to save American lives. You are pathetic and so is your president. Take him keep him he'll probably give you some free stuff he takes from honest wage earners in this......what ever we are anymore Zack!
I agree with what you say about the elections being over. I would like to point out that after 2004 when President Bush was reelected, there was a new psychological diagnosis created called "Bush Derangement Syndrome" (BDS). I wonder if you can remember what any of your comments back then were?
Just like you guys did in 2000. Hypocrite
I am in no way crying or whining, but every day of my life over the next 4 years (presumably) I will do anything I can to undermine your president. He has demonstrated that he is a destructive and divisive actor to this country and among its citizens. Every single day, I promise you that. I am not angry or despondent, I am 100% resolute.
What you gonna do? Slap him with your bra?
What a hypocrite you are. Apparently, you have forgotten the response the "tolerant" left gave to then President Bush at every turn. If you cannot see why Obama is the worst president is American history, then are an idiot too. Obama is going to continue to get chummy with the UN and run this country into the ground.
Really? Do me a favor and tell that to Carter and Clinton, both of whom feel very much at home criticizing Bush at every turn. Something none of the retired Repub presidents do. I fully expect to hear a rash of Cra_ from Barry when he exits as well. A bunch of narcissists who can't shut up.
As for me, when OBozo starts respecting ALL Americans and drops his trash talking and demagogory, I'll start respecting him. Until then I find him a disgrace to the office of President.
Gee Zack, you think respect is something just given? No son, it's something that is EARNED, much like a paycheck or a living – a couple more things you likely are as clueless about as respect.
You are right. No respect whatsoever for this president. He demeans the office.
typical lib! no answers- only justifications!
im a dem and i still need to know why he nor cnn(communist news network) didnt tell us immed..this is so typical of this entire admin
so lets hear another justification on why-i know,its top secret
You are absolutely correct. Republicans should treat Barack Obama as well as George W Bush was treated by Democrats.
B.S.How freakin' convenient!
The official response will be that the Iranians didn't mean to shoot at the drone but confused it for a UFO. The president will apologize to the Iranians for the confusion.
and give them $20 Billion in military aid
Haters are just a dime a dozen anymore, nothing they say has any impact on anything.
Gearge Bush Haters = BO lapdogs
This is an act of war, Mr. President. As our nation's leader, how will you respond when our enemies attack us?
By killing the keystone pipeline of course! I'll show those Iranians!
LMAO! An act of war? They (maybe) fired on one of your little robot toys, and missed. Man, you rednecks just can't WAIT to get yourselves deeper in debt with another unfunded war, eh? Hilarious.
Umm – I think military aircraft shooting at our equipment is a fairly clear diplomatic message. Not sure which school of diplomacy you've been interning at. Also, I love that this is a 'maybe' – maybe they shot at us. The Pentagon is our source for all pertinent information and Mitt Romney should have waited for them to say something definitive (even though they did, very early on); now the Pentagon is reporting that this happened, and we're saying 'maybe'. Classic.
We need to make drones that look like Iranians 😉
So if Iran sent an unarmed military plane to spy on us off the cost of New York we wouldn't fire on it? Maybe they should just park tanks on the White House lawn and say they're just "conducting exercises." Are we forgetting that we shot down an Iranian civilian airliner with 289 passengers and crew on it and refused to apologize?
Nice. An Iranian apologist. Just how many sanctions does the U.S. have against us right now? Now how about Iran? Pretty much an apples to apples comparison there genius.
We have Russian submarines just off the coast in international waters all the time...
We would not fire on it in international air space that would be an act of war.
The drone was in international airspace
"The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait"
Just a coincidence we didn't hear about this until after the election I am sure...right Obamabots??
Russians and Chinese do it all the time. So do we (unlesss people have forgotten the whole incident where the Chinese forced one of our planes to land).
The key difference is that we don't shoot at each other.
Oh well, keep apologizing Kool Aid drinkers
If they did ever fly an unarmed recon flight off our coast, in international waters, no we would not fire upon them...btw, this type of thing occurs most every day in international airspace off our coasts. We will react to their presence, but that does not mean we would shoot them down.
Anchorite, if you want to be on 'even ground' with a terrorist nation like Iran, then your points are valid. I, however, think the US needs to protect their interests and defend our borders. And no, I don't think we would fire on aircraft in international airspace...
Iran wouldn't even be an issue if that gutless Jimmy Carter would have moved in with force during the Hostage crisis. Weakness in the Middle East is met with contempt. Strength is acknowledged with grudging respect....just ask Israel, they would be history a long time ago if it wasn't for their military strength.
What part of "international waters" do you not understand?
Although the drone was not hit, the Pentagon is concerned.
Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident, which occurred just days before the presidential election on November 1, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN.
How utterly convenient not to announce this before the election. Just another example of the "transparency" of the Obama administration. And now, back to Libya...
And every single President we have had since Washington has been totally, completely, 100% transparent, open and honest with this country. Every Pres since Washington has ALWAYS told the American people every little detail of every event that has occured in our history. And I would defy you to tell me one Pres that has not done that.
And I bet we responded swiftly and decisively, right? Uhhh wait, that's right. Obama the Marxist is in charge. He probably bowed and apologized to them like a good community organizer would.
Is that how the rest of the trailer park feels?
Bob, this was a matter of national security so it didn't necessarily need to be mentioned. The problem with Obama is how he selectively uses the military to his advantage. Does it not bother you that he flatly lied to the American people and the World about Libya? He could have simply stated that we suffered a tragedy and it was being investigated. He instead made up a ridiculous lie and he and his representatives told it repeatedly for two weeks. I have never been so disappointed in my country as I am right now. And by the way, your snide remarks are typical of your kind.
You need to check your sources. Obama is related to a lot of famous people, but he is not one of the Marx brothers.
But a real clown nonetheless.
So how long has CNN been sitting on this story?
I hear that!
Wow, if your pilots can't even hit a predator drone, then they're really not going to accomplish much on the battlefield.
No, but I'll bet they could fly a plane into a building...much damage there??
They did manage to capture our stealth drone over their own airspace without so much as scratching it. Pretty embarrassing we actually tried to ask for it back.
If we had a Republican as President of the US there would be a strong military response to this Iranian provocation.
We'd invade, and occupy, Peru.
And then the "then Senator" would vote for the funding. Look it up...there isn't much difference between the two parties.
how can you people be such obvious liars and pretend 2 planes "were never successful in hitting" a drone ???
OBVIOUSLY THEY DIDN`T WANT TO HIT IT BUT SEND A MESSAGE ! who writes this articles...
Obviously someone that writes better than you... 'this' should be 'these'. Go back to school.
english language is not my first language so i sometimes make mistakes
EXCUSE ME MR PERFECT, do you speak anything else besides ENGLISH?
This is not "aggression". We violated their airspace with the drone, we accept the risk it might be fired on. We would do the same exact thing if any other country did this to us. We do not have a universal right to ignore the sovereignty of other nations just because it suits us.
What part of international airspace didn't you get out of that article?
You need to understand that of course they said that, anything but that is an admission of illegal invasion. Remember that other secret stealth drone that just crashed in Iran a couple months ago????
WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKING IRAN FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. Terror attacks have been blowing up their scientists numerous times. We have been attacking their airspace for months and months. They are doing EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN to not fight us, but all we do is provoke and provoke and provoke. Just look at the history of this Iran situation for 10 minutes, please!!!!
Also btw, understand that i am a big time football loving, gun shooting, Texan. So don't come at me with Obama communist hippie stuff.
So you "know" they violated their airspace? Pretty sure the article states the drone was in international airspace. That would make it aggression. Where did you read they violated Iranian airspace in the article.
It said it occurred in the Persian GULF. Since when is that Iranian airspace.
Jesse, the part of "international airspace" we didn't get is how the US claims to have a 200 mile buffer when it's US airspace but when it's within 200 miles of another country it's "international." The other part is hot pursuit. If we were spying on Iran over their land earlier, they are allowed to pursue the drone into international waters of any distance and shoot it down. Maybe, just maybe, we are trying to provoke Iran? Or perhaps we just find it convenient to play with our toys off the coast of an enemy half a planet away, yeah.
The gulf area is very small. When they international airspace or water, you get the impression the drone was in a wide opern air space. In realty, these countries are very close. So, It is like flying a few miles off the cost of a US city. A drone flying that close with leathal missle can swing in a second and take out target deep into their country. Anyway, it is expected they would do that and it is likley a warning shot, and the US was just testing their radar and air rediness.
Dude...you're an idiot. No UAV is gonna "swing over in a second" and go anywhere fast. And they don't carry anything lethal enough to take out a city.
I certainly hope our president sufficiently apologizes for our drone being there. If he bows low enough, perhaps the Iranians will forgive us.
A position you're familiar with? Get off your knees and get that Rush gush off your face. You look foolish.
Get over it, Steve. Your Repubs lost. HA!!!
You people don't get it. It's not a damn football game. Obama doesn't win and get the cheerleader. The loser isn't Romney or the republicans, it's everyone that has to watch the economy keep spiraling the toilet until the whole system collapses under Obama's failed policies.
Yep, we did, Bob. But be prepared for a whole bunch of "I told you so's" in the months ahead.
too bad it wasn;t Air Force One...
Yes, our party lost. But we'll all be losers, very, very soon.
Try saying something worthwhile. Four years of junk talking is enough.
Its not a kite, Its in International airspace, Long Island Sound is not international airspace, it was unarmed. Read before you jabber. Iran apparently has forgotten the lessons learned from Operation Preying Mantis!
Lots of news articles that should have come out before and coming out now. After the election result....hmm.
So what, BO is not going to do anyrhing! Nothing was done in Benghazi, nothing will be done here! BO is going to let israel get invaded and be all on their own, he supports muslims.
Wow. Those voices in your head must be BRUTAL !!!
Hey truth hurt you Bob!
What an intelligent response.
and why exactly are we Israels PROTECTORS? NO American blood should be shed for Israel
go move to Israel if u want to defend them....
Typical response from a left wing muslim supporter
Israel is, and has been an ally. If Israel is invaded it will be a nuclear conflict. How much spending is Obama going to have to do to get rid of that problem? You liberals live in a fantasy land where the biggest issue on your plate is how we can manage to put everyone on a government program as some kind of political Xanax. Realize there are actual issues at hand.
Anytime I hear the term "left-wing" anything it sort of invalidates your opinion because I know you're just a Fox News drone. You know what liberals do with our most radical "left-wing" people? We IGNORE them because they're crazy. Trees don't have inalienable rights, and we aren't switching to veganism. What does the conservative movement do with it's most radical supporters? They shove them on a network TV and radio shows and swallow their dribble like it's the word of God himself. It doesn't matter to me because the GOP will continue to alienate normal intelligent people with it's utter nonsense and won't gain much of a foothold in a rapidly changing society. If this last election didn't convince anyone then just stay tuned.
Israel is not our ally....
Exactly what do they do for US besides cry for more weapons and $$$$...
Over the years we have Armed every single Arab country around them.... which now includes Syria...
I'm willing to bet that most of the people of Iran are sick and tired of that midget president and those religious fanatics running their lives. This is where the U.S should take the handcuffs off the CIA and help the freedom-loving people of Iran overthrow the current regime instead of sending in warships and American troops.
the President does not Rule over IRAN.... the Ayatollah does....
How about we stop interfering in their lives and protect our own borders.
Official US response: "We apologize."
Translation: My war-mongering candidate didn't win.
Show your proof Big mouth.
but President Obama did win ...
LOL...keep telling yourself that. Obama is a warmonger
So, since Obama tried to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq beyond the date that G.W. Bush negotiated to have U.S. troops removed from Iraq, does that make Obama a War Mongerer?
I have never posted this before, but I just cannot contain my complete disgust and contempt for your view and similar idiotic statements made by people like you...
You, sir, are an idiot!
Yes, nothing to worry about. This is all about internal rivalries within the US. It's all the other party's fault. Nothing is ever anyone else's fault ever. Everything's dandy.
I see Romney's loss at the polls won't stop the left's mischaracterization of his positions.
War mongering? Really? I was not aware that Mr. Romney had ordered drone strikes, voted to continue funding in the Iraq war back when he was in Congress, is keeping troops in Afghanistan, is keeping Gitmo open after promising to close it, or got involved in military actions in Somalia, Yemen and Libya. President Obama, however, did do all of those things. Why is he not considered a 'war monger?'
so what is mittens response to the Israeli defense ministers confirming Obama has given more military support and $$$$ than any other prez.... like we should be giving that leech of country anything
Obama is weak and the Iranians will push things to the limit.
People like you still think Obama's a soft handed pacifist even if he nukes a country.
For starters, B.O.y would actually have to attend some security council meetings to discover where the drones are. But that would mean leaving the golf course.
yeah Weak Obama is why drones are there...
why drones have eliminated more Al qaudia than bush...
Weak sending troops into Pakistan to exterminated Osama...
turn off foxfax
Then why no response in Benghazi? Why did they sit there and watch our guys DIE! He picks and chooses who he wants to save and attack. Whats good for his politics, not the country.
Yes, there is no substantial difference between observation and intervention. Great point.
Obama stated he had no clue of drones over Libya, do you really think he knows about drones in the Gulf? It's beneath him to read those things.
How much intelligence did we get from the dead al Quaeda killed in the drone strikes?
benghazi? like u even care about benghazi,,,, 5,000 troops dead 50,000+ injured crashing the US Economy by paying for 2 wars with tax cuts and 3 stimulus checks.... that is leadership....
so how exactly does foxfax have any info on benghazi when they have 0 reporters in libya.... well lets assume they do. so 0 reporters who can leave their hotels from fear of a beat down.
but hey bush and foxfax dont care about outting CIA Operatives so tell me all about the CIA Operation in Benghazi since foxfax got the lowdown
Wow, first with this one, but we're still waiting for some info on Benghazi. Come on, election's over. Let's have it.
Last week? Oh that is right how many other little tidbits did we carry over until after 11-6.
I think we should switch from unarmed drones to a pair of F16's and find out what country knows how to hit a target.
Open acts of war, keep screwing around and lives will be lost. Obama do your f-ing job
Sorry to hear of your tiny pee-pee.
Dude you are a troglodyte.
Really? That's all you got?
Sorry to hear about you not opening your eyes and seeing that things are about to get bad
YOU'RE A LEFTIST MORON. YOU RESPOND TO EVERY RATIONAL POST WITH NAME CALLING, DIVERSIONS, AND IGNORANT STATEMENTS. TRY BEING CIVIL FOR A CHANGE OR IS THAT BEYOND YOUR LIBERAL BRAINWASHING?
Really, I can see what you must like.
Typical Obamabot...all snark and no substance. Just like his glorious leader.
and that job is what?
Invading Iran paying for it with TAX CUTS and sending us all THREE stimulus checks?
If we don't stop Iran there won't be a country to have tax cuts. Turn MSNBC back on.
Darn, I only got two. Whats up with that???
yeah Iran is threatening the United States of America... u know that country that is wider than any missile iran has can travel.... the USA the country that is oceans away where Iran cant get too...
the USA a country with military bases all over the globe...
no country has the ability to invade us yet we are threatened.... fear mongering....
I dont think we'll hear a peep out of the WH about this. No response, nothing. No, Im not saying we go to war but do we just allow this to happen and give no response at all?
Keep in mind that now election is over, Obama is going to be more flexible with Russia. Russia who is on the wrong side over every issue and how helps arm Iran. And Obama thinks they are an allie.
Why don't we just mind out own business.
It is our business, they are keeping an eye on our tanker ships that carry oil so you can rub one out.
@ Fred...and? We are in the Gulf. I'm sure we'd be keeping an eye on Iranian that were in the Gulf of Mexico. You war mongers just can't get enough.
First of all, I believe it Moral Liberty, Not Morel, or are you trying to say More Liberty?
In any case, firing on our drone in internation waters is an act of War. The proper response is to find thos Su-25s and shoot them down.
Keeping an eye on is one thing, but we wouldn't fire on them. I spent 14 years working for the Air Force, We wouldn't fire unless they crossed over into our territory.
I think, "minding our own business" ended when they fired on our drone...
It's More Liberty – as in freedom for the individual. We should mind out own business. Aren't you lefties and righties tired of countless wars, wasteful foreign aid and death? We should not be taking money from the middle-class and giving it to foreign regimes. Let Europe develop and deploy their own missile shield, let South Korea guard their own border, let the Afghanis build their own country, and left the middle-east deal with themselves. Stop putting American lives at risk, and stop wasting our money.
its pretty easy to be a general whilst sitting back in a comfey chair, eating popcorn, and surfing the net.
So the Iranians aren't scared of the big bad Americans, that's going to make a lot of internet warriors angry, demanding war while not wanting to fight it.
No demand for war. But we should respond some how. We are America, not some country that should be pushed around.
or paying for it aka bushism
Time to put a few Sidewinders on the Predators.
Just checking them out, no big deal. Now we know they can't shoot stright. Obama has killed more bad guys in 4 years than bush in 8, so who's the Pu$$. Bush knew for 2-3 years where Ben Laden was and did nothing. Hannity said we would never have found Ben Laden without the waterboarding, so why did he not take him out?
Maybe you should ask Slick Willie since he passed up the chance to take Osama out
Take Obama's dick out of your mouth and speak on the topic not on a past president who had nothing to do with this.
Can anyone say oral fixation. Very freudian.
Cut the partisan crap already, Obama didn't take anyone out, the SEALS did.
That's an idiotic thing to say. Obama had NOTHING to do with Bin Laden. Tool.
its BIN laden you degenerate fvck
I think Ben Laden is a Democrat that ran in Kalifornia.
Yeah no big deal, just Iranian jets firing on our drones without hesitation. Quit drinking the kool-aid and realize that nobody is threatened by Obama, they're just waiting for him to bow down and decrease our military. By the way, who is Ben Laden?
If by "bad guys" you mean American ambassadors to Libya, two CIA paramilitary officers and one state department civilian...ya he killed them. Oh and he's also assassinated a civilian via his murdering drones.
Obama doesn't get credit for killing any bad guys. There is no president that, when presented with intelligence confirming BIN (at least spell his name right idiot) Laden's location and the chance to take him out, wouldn't have given the go ahead. Great for USA, but Obama was just lucky to be in office to take all the credit for it. I like how you "know" Bush knew about Bin Laden's whereabouts for 2-3 years, I'd like to see the citing of your infallible sources.
Actually, GWB allowed OBL to escape.
You mean our military has gotten more bad guys not Obama. It was Hilary who Said to get bin Laden not barry. She has more balls than a skinny dirty arab in the peoples house.
Because for 2-3 years we were following bin Laden's couriers, tapping his communiques and using that info to hurt the Taliban. Obama couldn't allow that to happen anymore (his muslims brothers were getting upset about it) so they let us send in choppers to kill him. The Pu$$ is the one who will now sit idly by and let more of our people and assets in the region be destroyed without doing anything about it. If you think for one minute that O is gonna punish Iran for this action...or any other action...then you are sorely deluded.
Joe, I fear you are right.
Scott, it is not that you are ignorant, it is that what you know is just not true! Or, yes, maybe you could just be an idiot.
They way Bin Laden was taken out was due to policies and procedures GW Bush put in to place YEARS BEFORE PRESIDENT O-HOLE WAS EVEN ELECTED YOU HALF-WIT!!!.
No wonder Obama was reelected with people like you voting for him. Let me make a long shot guess here...you get your money, your paycheck or source of income ....from government right? You are either a government worker or some sort, a student with a government loan, somehow "disabled", an unemployed liberal arts major, a unionized worker in a dying industry, a teacher (most likely), or just a leech off of the taxpayer.
Well Scott, did I nail it?
Anyway, dead wrong Scott, just absolutely dead wrong. All Obama did was to say "yes" to a no brainer situation that evolved while he was still a POS Communist Senator from Illinois. TD01
You realize a student LOAN isn't leaching right? Key word is LOAN. Not a handout, grant, freebie. No LOAN. Those get paid back with interest so you actually lose money when getting one. Just thought I'd help you out. You must not be able to get all that knowledge through your tinfoil hat.
I don't know if Scott gets a check from the govt or not, but I do. After working for 50 plus years paying into SS, Medicare, etc I finally decided to retire and get back some o that I paid for so long. Oh yeh, I also get a diability check. From the VA each month, for the 3 pieces of shrapnelI still have in my body I got in Vietnam, and the VA sends me my pain meds to help take away some of the pain from that I have lived with every day since 1970. Guess all that just makes me one of those freeloaders doesn't it. POS.
Why don't you cite proof of your accusations instead of stomping you feet like a 5 year old and calling people names? Let me guess, you're a bit short on proof? No wait, you're short on proof and you're 8 years old.
Ty Woods, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Christopher Stephens disagree with you
or ask bush who refused to take out Osama in Tora Bora cuz it would have tanked his need to invade Iraq for no reason
Does blackhawk down bring back any slick willy memories you fool. Our men died because bill clinton let them go into harms way witout the equipment they needed to survibe a raid! Stop the blaming of bush and look at your own fools!
Bill clinton could have had bin laden before any of them and he failed miserably and let him escape.
and bush REFUSED to take osama out in Tora Bora cuz he wanted to invade Iraq....
5k+ dead... 50,000+ wounded... paid with tax cuts and 3 stimulus checks crashing the US Economy....
grats george wmd bush....
Scott, let's not forget the almost five thousand innocents your boy Obama has killed during these same drone strikes. A fact that we all know why you would leave out of your outstanding reporting!
Do not forget our military overseas did not get to vote in this election. A friend secretly sent her hubby a ballot to afghanistan and he secretly sent it back home just in time. He was the only one over there who got to vote. They all HATE Barry over there BIG time.
Umm, you don't "check out" another countries aircraft by firing at them (whether hit or not) in international airspace.
Yes, and Obamas lady voters have killed more American citizens than WW1 and WW2 together.
Scott, keep drinking the kool-aid.
Since you're so keen on Obama getting all the credit for killing bin Laden, it would only be logical that he should receive all the blame for Fast and Furious, an absolute travesty that put American guns into the hands of the Mexican cartels and is now negatively affecting American lives here at home on a daily basis. At least attempt to see both sides of the arguments instead of blindly supporting your beloved Obama.
They know the spineless wimp in office won't do a thing to stop them. I fully expect Israel to attack Iran within the next 3-6 months. They aren't going to wait out another 4 years of Obama dithering while Iran gets nukes when the STATED GOAL of most of the Arab world is to eliminate Israel.
Translation: WAHHH !!!! Obama won. WAHHHH!!!!!!
Translation: War under Obama good...more war...kill
And I bet Bob, that in three years or less, you will deny ever voting for him. That is just how bad it will get. TD01
Really BOB Grow up.
Obummer will say it is Bush's fault
u mean foxfax will say obama said since he never did....
u r still brewing over the fact the 4 year long blame obama campaign FAILED to make people forget bush caused the collapse of the US Economy
Actually, since Obama was re-elected, this probably won't happen. Rob-me is the one who said we should be tighter with Isreal...which is what Isreal wants so they can attack Iran without any worries. And we all know that it's the republicans who like to start wars in order to secure their re-elections and benefit themselves financially by sending their own corporations to "rebuild" those nations and take their oil.
Hmm...sounds quite familiar. Pakistani army fires mortars and bullets into India everyday violating each and every rule of international rule book and they have been doing it since decades.
Can anyone say the Gulf of Tonken?
Sounds about right. How many people believe the Iranians fired on a drone and couldn't hit it? They have the same weapons technology as the Russians and US. If they wanted to hit it, they would have.
This is just to gin up support for more war.
Don't worry; I'm sure your president will apologize to them.
Get over it. You lost. Obama won. YEAH !!!!
No; while you may be right that Obama won the election, the free world can all count themselves as losers. This administration has blatantly lied to American citizens, conducted covert gun smuggling acrossed international borders, started civil unrest and wars abroad, and abandoned it's military and sovereign citizens to be raped, sodomized, and killed by Islamic jihadists.
No Bob, the entire country lost, you guys on the left are just to ignorant to understand that now, but you will eventually.
Stop trolling around just to rub it in that Obama won and attempt to make actual additions to the discussion. Good for you, you clearly voted for Obama. Now we all have to deal with the consequences of four more years, only this time he doesn't have to worry about getting reelected. Formulate actual intelligent counterpoints or get off the page
That is quite alright. Your wannabe president is busy licking his wounds from the beating he took at the polls. My president killed Osama, what did yours do?
America lost on Tuesday.
So let me understand how this works. Economy-Bush's fault. Taking out Osama- All Obama. Man, how much stupidity do welfare checks actually buy?
LOL..you might want to tell that the NSW operators of Dev Group.
Oh, how nice to bury this story until after the election. Pretty much sums up "transparency" with Obama Admin and the media. Two groups that work together and against the people.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
You should re-recruit Romney off of his new career at Dancing with the Stars.
Mike I'm sure that if you had been notified you would have sent your fighters to intercept and blow them out of the sky. This goes to show that there are many ignorant people out there that don't understand what it is to be presidential. Why notify the public? We have enough things to worry about. The time will come when we'll need to strike at our enemies. Till then there is no need to cry wolf. Mike put back your panty hose and take a chill pill.
yeah im amazed foxfax didnt make up a story like this just before the election.... then a month later say it wasnt news it was amusement
The president better apologize and quick we can't make Amy Muslim,nations mad
I'm guessing you didn't vote for Obama?
Just look at his spelling and punctuation. Of course he didn't !!!
Equip our drones with missiles. They will stop all aggressive behavior!
They are equipped with missiles nitwit. That's why people will try and shoot them down! Read a newspaper!
What about the part of unarmed drone did you miss?
The article claims the drone was unarmed. Did you even read it?
That is not why they try to shoot them down. Don't kid yourself that muslim aggression is a response to western policy. It isn't and never was. It is the supremacist mindset of the islamic jihadist on display. Your willful ignorance to see that is worrisome. Please stop defending these lunatics by making everything they do the fault of someone else.
Predators are armed with Hellfire missiles for air to ground strikes. You would need an air to air missile to hit a supersonic capable aircraft like a Sidewinder or Stinger. I have not seen any information about Predators having AA defensive capabilities. If you're going to call someone a nitwit you might not want to look like one yourself.
unarmed jimmy boy.
Can you even read?? Some aren't armed, some are. The article even states this one was not armed.
The ARTICLE says they were UNARMED drones.
Hey Jim, not EVERY drone is armed, especially on the maritime obsrv runs because they have longer linger time in the target area due to less weight of the arms and improved flight dynamics without the ordin under the wings. Engage brain before you TOUCH a keyboard and make another comment.
Not all drones are armed/can be armed no newspaper needed since I worked on them.
Good point. With the Afghan war collapsing around us we will need another place to waste the taxpayers money and get more young Americans killed.
Look up the USS Vincennes incident.
Those bad boys shot down my kite! Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo. I think anybody flying something unmanned outside of their borders is free game, especially if it's got a few hell fires. Think not? In a year or two, you ok with Chinese drones flying Long Island Sound?
What part of "The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait" did you miss?
More warmongering – Gulf of Tonken – The Luthistanuia – hey we need a good pretext for more war.
Lol- Jim are you persian, dim, or both?
Neither...he works for the State Department...
You obviously did not read the article: "The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait".
yes. It was in their airspace. And for a very good reason.The thinking people in this world know the threat to humanity that a nuclear armed Iran imposes. If we are not going to see what they are up to then who is? You think that big bad America is picking on the poor, innocent Iranian mullahs? Get a clue. America is not "starting " a war. Iran is. Get that through your heads out there in liberal world. These jihadist were not sitting around picking flowers when evil America showed up top invade them for their oil. If you listen to that Alex Jones nonsense I can't help you. You are lost. These muslims are doing what muslims the world over have been doing non stop for the last 1380 years. terrorizing the world.
if I was Iran I'd want a nuclear weapon as well. The USa invaded countries on two of Irans borders, flys war machine near their land and imposes sanctions.
did you even read the article? the drone was unarmed and wasn't hit.
@Jim: What part of the drone being in international airspace don't you understand? A ChiCom drone over Long Island Sound would be in American territorial airspace and subject to be shot down. Drones, airplanes and ships in international airspace or waters, outside the territorial limits of any country, have every right to be there and attacking them would be an act of war.
Read the article...over international waters..if not we have an even bigger story...
Jim you can't be this simple minded. I see others have already responded to your incorrect comments but to say that Long Island Sound is in international waters shows either a lack of intelligence or a willingness to lie to make a point. Quit trolling the boards.
Geography isn't my strongest suit but I don't think the Long Island Sound is considered international waters. Other than that and missing the whole Kuwait thing, you made a really pithy comment. Keep up the good work Jimbo!
This happened last week and they just now announce it after the election? Glad to see that promise of transparency is being kept.
At least we didn't invade the wrong country yet under Obama!
Your right .. We haven't done anything yet in the Middle East except allow our country men to be killed in Libya
True! We just dont get the truth under Obama.
Think you need to do a little more research instaead of marching lock step. You'll be surprised as to what was found and destroyed in Iraq. Look specifically into the complaints filed by the UN over our removal of enriched uranium. Meanwhile .... explain what Lybia was, if not the military involvement in the wrong country to invade.
It's early yet, give Obozo some more time.............
ohh subtle bush reference time, can I play too jim... ok mine is... well 3.9 percent unemployemnt was way to low anyway.
damn im not very good at this.
People died. Barry lies.
OH? You mean like...Libya?
You sure about that? Also, go back through the votes...Mr.Obama voted for funding the Iraq war...oh yeah he also voted for the Patriot Act 2 and signed the NDAA into law. Ya...Obama like Bush is just another criminal and should be tried.
june 19, 2004 "Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country." http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53096-2004Jun18?language=printer
Left's answer to everything, blame Bush
I'm calling BS! This is an obvious false flag designed to garner yet more support for another war. I bet it was a western nation with planes painted up like they are Iranian. Bush wanted to paint a plane like an Iraqi one and use it in a similar fashion. A false flag! Why would Iran want to instigate against us after all the nations we have already invaded and overthrown their sovereign leadership? It defies common sense. It is akin to a 4th grader walking up to a 7th grader and picking a fight.
We have short memory....during Clinton, Bush, and Perot debate, Ross Perot asked Bush to release the tape of the US Ambassador to Iraq who probably okayed Sadam to go ahead into Kuwait...so where is that transparency...republicans war mongers....stop hate of all kind. Would ask your congress folks to get you that copy...hate of Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Afganistan, when are we going to stop being arrogant...can we live like human with respect of others in peace, peace, peace like Mitt said in his last debate, I think that was superb.
Tell that to the 3000 who died in the towers Matt.
Tell that to the 655,000 people who died in Iraq, KMX. How about the 8,000 Afghani peasants we killed who never even knew al-Qaeda existed before 9/11. How about the half million Iranians who died in the war with Saddam when we bankrolled him because we were sore losers that the Iranians kicked out our brutal puppet Shah?
KMX, did you get that fake patriotic pablum from Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity? Come on.
KMX: I'm still trying to figure out why NORAD stood-down under Bush's watch. Tell that answer to the 3,000 who died in the towers.
Don't worry Matt;, the election is over and the OWS can join Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink in the scap heap of uneccesary political memorability. You won't have to leave your parents' basement and take the time to go poop on the White House lawn now.
Eric, name calling yay! It's ok, you can go back to your TV and continue watching Chris Matthews
KMX....Iraq didn't bomb our towers.
Iran shoot at a "ufo" we really don't fly predators on recon we got sicker drones oh no that's why we fly drones so we dont have to worry bout lives no harm I bet they chased us out of there air space
That's probably right. We admitted after Vietnam that most of the attacks on US ships in "international waters" took place after the ships got done shelling villages on the Vietnamese shore and then raced back to int'l waters to make defensive pursuit by North Vietnamese patrol boats look like a provocation.
"What a crazy, random happenstance!"