October 24th, 2012
08:21 PM ET

US intel believes some Benghazi attackers tied to al Qaeda in Iraq

By Suzanne Kelly, Pam Benson and Elise Labott

U.S. intelligence believes that assailants connected to al Qaeda in Iraq were among the core group that attacked the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, a U.S. government official told CNN.

That would represent the second al Qaeda affiliate associated with the deadly September 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Previously, intelligence officials said there were signs of connections to al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African wing of the terror group.

The revelation that members of al Qaeda in Iraq are suspected of involvement in the Libya attack comes at a time when there is a growing number of fighters from that group also taking part in the Syrian civil war.

Also: Doubts surface over e-mail on claim of responsibility for Benghazi attack

It also surfaces as questions persist about Benghazi security and the Obama administration's response to the attack that have become issues in the presidential campaign. Republicans have said issues around the attack illustrate weaknesses in President Barack Obama's foreign policy.

The weakened al Qaeda affiliate has had a resurgence in Iraq since U.S. forces left the country at the end of last year. The group had used Libya as a source for fighters. In a 2008 cable, Stevens described a nearby town of Derna as "a wellspring of Libyan foreign fighters" for al Qaeda in Iraq.

The latest intelligence suggests the core group of suspects from the first wave of the attack on the Benghazi mission numbered between 35 to 40. Around a dozen of the attackers are believed to be connected to either al Qaeda in Iraq or al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the government official said.

The attack had two waves: The first targeted the main compound where Stevens and another diplomatic official were believed killed. A second stage a few hours later involved an annex building approximately a mile away.

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According to the official, others in the core group are suspected of having ties to the Libyan group Ansar al-Sharia, and many of them are believed to be Egyptian jihadis.

A suspect in the attack is being held in Tunisia where the United States has been denied access to him, according to Sen. Saxby Chambliss, the ranking Republican on the Intelligence Committee.

Chambliss would not name the suspect, but CNN has been told it is Ali Ani al-Harzi, a Tunisian connected to extremist groups in North Africa.

Details about al-Harzi were first reported by the Daily Beast.

In a statement Chambliss said, "Tunisian authorities have a suspected terrorist in custody, yet our guys aren't able to interrogate him."

An aide to Chambliss said the suspect was first arrested in Turkey and later sent to Tunisia.

CNN has learned that the United States first became aware of al-Harzi when he apparently posted details of the attack on social media while it was happening.

At the request of the United States, Turkish officials detained al-Harzi when he entered that country after leaving Libya. Turkey then transferred him to Tunisia.

The United States fully expects to have access to him and is trying to figure out how that will happen, another U.S. official told CNN. The FBI is leading the investigation and the intelligence community, according to the official, is working behind the scenes to help with that as well.

Video from one security camera at the Benghazi mission was recovered from the site, but a U.S. official would not say whether al-Harzi or any other suspects were identified from the video.

E-mails obtained by CNN made clear that less than 30 minutes after the attack began, the State Department notified officials within the agency, the White House, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Pentagon and the FBI that an attack was underway and that Stevens was in the compound.

And just two hours later, one of the e-mails indicated the Libyan extremist group Ansar al Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack on social media websites. "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the e-mail said.

Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN the e-mails show the attack was not a spontaneous demonstration in protest of an anti-Muslim video as the intelligence community and Obama administration officials initially claimed.

"So what you saw in the e-mails in that real time was a real description," Rogers told Soledad O'Brien on "Starting Point." "And, as you noticed, there was no talk of demonstrations or other things. And it was clearly very early identified with a terrorist affiliate of AQIM."

Eight hours after the first e-mail was sent by the State Department to officials around the government, another message, obtained by CNN on Wednesday from a government official, said that the personnel in the "shelter location" in Benghazi were "under attack by mortar fire." It added there are reports of injuries to staff.

The timing of the message suggests the "shelter" referenced was the CIA annex a mile from the main diplomatic mission where, ultimately, two former Navy SEALs were killed in an effort to fight the attackers.

The email will likely be cited by critics to show that the administration knew within hours about the military nature of the attack.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the documents did not tell the whole story, describing conclusions drawn from the one document as "cherry picking."

"Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence, and I think it just underscores how fluid the reporting was at the time and continued for some time to be," Clinton said.

Moreover, intelligence officials do not believe Ansar al-Sharia is solely responsible with indications now that some of the attackers were associated with al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and an Egyptian jihad network.

A spokesman for Ansar al-Sharia denied the group was responsible the day after the assault.

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  23. greg lehrer

    obama was making vacation plan the man is a joke in a bad economy he gives raises also he signs a bill for sandy relief i did not know sandy hit alaska also why doesn't any body read these bills look at obama care no one knews what is in it the man [obama] loves to spend money

    January 5, 2013 at 12:06 am | Reply
  24. InnerCityGuy

    If you look at this administrations foreign policy it is laced with a dangerous new calculus predicated in the hope of shaping a new liberal global order but it comes across as incoherent and opportunistic for our enemies. The problem was trying something so grand without understanding real world dynamics. In the end, i see it as the arrogance and hubris of thinking we can actually dictate in that way.

    Last, from fast and furious to the deaths of 4 Americans in Libya, the net results speak for themselves. We all need to stop the typical demagoguery since it gets us no where other than to continue flaming each other in posts and in person. We are so busy yelling at each other that we fail to see the bigger problem of how divided we have become.


    October 28, 2012 at 11:41 am | Reply
  25. Kenneth MacKenzie, Plaintiff Pro Se, U.S. Supreme Ct. 08-9595,

    ..There were also U.S. Satellite & Drone photos of the U.S. Consulate , benghazi, depicting Libyan Terrorists "stalking" U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens for days before he was murdered. these high quality photos could have been "investigated" by U.S. Intelligence teams to "cross match" the U.S. Satellite & Drone, Iraq, Intelligence photos and cross matched against the Sinjar Photos and U.S. Awakening photos in U.S. Intelligence efforts against the known Libyan Terrorist volunteers from Benghazi as established in 700 ""TARPLY" files at U.S. Military Academy, West Point, USA? SEE: http://tarpley.net/docs/CTCForeignFighter.19.Dec07.pdf
    ..The U.S. Executive Branch Departments ignored U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens in the same manner it ignored the family of PFC Kristian Menchaca despite the fact we litigated denials of Victim Protection against the U.S. Justice Deprtment in our "Supplemental Briefs" to U.S. Supreme Court Case 08-9595 explaining the TERRORIST life threats against the Menchaca Family so strenously ignored by the U.S. Justice department.
    ..U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens was as much a Victim of 'mentally disabled" U.S. State Department Satraps as he was a Victim of Terrorists.
    .. Hillary Clinton is also a Victim.

    October 28, 2012 at 2:05 am | Reply
  26. Patti

    When people would say CNN stands for Communist News Network, I never liked it. However, in trying to hear what was going on most recently in Benghazi with our seals requesting help and being denied...I am inclined to think CNN has become just a propaganda machine. I heard Obama's speech in NH aired Saturday, but I waited and waited to hear Romney's speech in Florida which was NOT aired. In fact CNN said Romney would be making a speech when in fact he already had finished his speech. CNN-Communist News Network or Propaganda Media....either works!

    October 27, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Reply
  27. debbie

    this is why I don't watch CNN because you do not cover the story like you should, I turned the channel to CNN tonight & you have not said anything about the Benghazi attack at all. nobody wants Obama to get in trouble for that. everybody believes that he did not know anything about what was going on at the time is crazy.

    October 26, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Reply
  28. Frank Turco

    you are now equal to cnbc wow

    October 26, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Reply
  29. Bill

    Why don't you cover this story like you have covered the Lance Armstrong scandal ???? This is one of te biggest stories since Watergate. I'm not accusing CNN of a coverup, but if you don't report the story and all of the facts, what purpose does CNN serve ? Report the news and let the people decide !!!!!!!!!!

    October 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Because there was no cover-up!

      What do you think this investigative committee that was put together by Obama is doing? To bring to light in the PUBLIC what all the FACTS are.

      How can there be a cover-up when Mormon Bishop Mittens and his people have been getting the same intelligence briefings as Obama since late August?

      That is why Mormon Bishop Mittens has stopped talking about Libya right after the 2nd debate when Obama exposed him for lying. Mormon Bishop Mittens have been getting the same CIA briefings as Obama, and no FACTS were ever established of an AL QAEDA connection untion about 2 weeks later.

      There is no cover-up. Hence, there is no story!

      October 26, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
      • jene

        Really, etch? Ya wanna go there bout religion n insulting other's for their right to follow any religion they choose and romney flip flopping...hmm ok then let's also mention how your precious Obama flip flopped from claiming Christianity to claiming Muslim. What do you have to say now?
        And btw have you even bothered to research what your precious Obama and Clinton even said to the military families of Stevens and the others?!
        Oh nvm you're too busy polishing their rear ends w your brown nosing to get your facts straight before makin yourself out to be ignorant.

        October 27, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
      • InnerCityGuy

        @etch – oh, there is a cover up. I will speculate but it probably involves arms, other national players (e.g. Turkey), and who we were arming gone bad. The ambassador does not simply travel on a mission because he feels like it. This was an official action that went horribly wrong

        I will use a dirty word in politics.... TRUTH. I would like to imagine a point where the players (in closed session) come clean. Afterwards the guilty are dealt with and the secret information protected. Someone will be going to jail.

        October 28, 2012 at 11:47 am |
      • pmiller

        You need to get a life and realize that this President does not care about America. He doesn't care about saving the people he puts in harms way. I am so glad my brother is out of the military now becasue I would hate to know this president would be in charge of protecting his life. He allowed these 4 Americans to be murdered. It is a shame that the media will not cover this properly.

        October 31, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  30. jlfliberty

    So what do they think of Obama now? He blamed it on the movie at the United Nations in front of the world. He said it without concern for the problems it might cause in other countries. What respect does the world have for Americans if we support this wag the dog(world) act from our President?

    October 25, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Silly RIGHT-WING nut!

      Obama didn't blame the Benghazi attack on the YouTube Christian Taliban video. He said the MILLIONS of ANGRY MUSLIMS rioting and attacking US and Western facilities on the YouTube Christian Taliban video.

      You RIGHT-WING nuts seem to forget that the US embassy in Egypt was attacked by these MUSLIMS angry over the YouTube Christian Taliban.

      Do as your MORMON BISHOP has done ... and move on. Mormon Bishop Mittens only cared about Benghazi when he thought he could use it for POLITICAL GAIN. But now that there is nothing to gain, he no longer talks about Libya.

      October 26, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Reply
      • james

        hahahahah christian taliban video, thats a good one, even Obama has quit telling that lie

        October 26, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
  31. ryanwin

    The real question is could this have been prevented? Yes, it could easily and should have been prevented. With added security forces as requested, although they would not be able to hold off such an attack, they would act as a deterrent from the attack ever happening. The administration had the intel on instability in the region, and certainly should have taken necessary precautions before September 11th.

    October 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      If Ambassador Stevens was so concerned about security, why didn't he leave and go back to Tripoli???
      Can't blame this all on Obama! Steven's should not have been there!

      October 26, 2012 at 7:40 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Security requests were made for the embassy in Tripoli. That was where the major security concerns were.

      Each new security personnel costs about $330K per year. The actually received 1 more extra security agent then they had initially requested last spring.

      But having more security agents, would not have helped anyways. In fact, it would made it more difficult to move because the bigger you are the bigger the target you become.

      Nothing short of a real military unit could have stopped or prevented the Benghazi attack. That would have cost MILLIONS more. And it is not a political good thing to have US military units in Libya or any FOREIGN COUNTRY for that matter ... without special arrangements and agreements put in place.

      October 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Reply
  32. John Galt

    Secretary of State Clinton and the White House may have a problem with the evidence, but It is a confession, and that is far better evidence than their 'guess' for two weeks that a video was the cause.

    October 25, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Reply


    October 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Ha, ha, ha! "Trust" Mr. 2%? A man with no respect for 47% of the country? A "big sender" to throw away $2T on military hardware we don't need? Another GOP warmonger? What lies will he come up with to justify a war with Iran?
      He flip flops every day, no "plan" and certainly no experience in dealing with our unruly ally, Israel!

      October 26, 2012 at 8:11 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      So you *trust* the flip-flopper Mormon Bishop + Vietnam War DRAFTER who invests in Chinese companies in China and Iran?

      The Mormon Draft Dodger who's side kick lies about his marathon time and lies about the stimulus plan because he took money for two projects? The side kick who thinks RAPE is "God's will"?

      That is who you trust more? LMAO

      October 26, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • amy

      If the Republicans were genuinely concerned about honesty they would have been all over Bush for instigating a decade long unnecessary war, based on lies, largely financed by loans from China and costing thousands of American lives.

      October 26, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  34. Paul Revere

    MOSSAD MOSSAD MOSSAD CNN has gone over. The truth is out there.

    October 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Reply
  35. j watts

    why did the u.s. not go get the 4 men out before it was to late . i thing no one had the gusts to do anything.

    October 25, 2012 at 10:45 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Or perhaps nobody had any solid intelligence about what was happening ... where anybody was and who was doing the attacking?

      Perhaps, the closest US military base or navy ship was too far away to be of any help?

      Perhaps, one has to weight the pros and cons of sending military units into a foreign country without their permission ... because that could be taken as an act of war?

      Perhaps, without knowing who the attackers were, you don't to risk more Americans getting killed?

      Yeah, you are not privy to classified information and what was going on in the command center.

      It's not as simple as calling 911 and having the police reach your place in less than 2 minutes.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      If Stevens was so concerned about security, why on earth did he not leave and go back to Tripoli? HE screwed up!

      October 26, 2012 at 8:14 am | Reply
      • StanCalif

        Surely Stevens knew that Congressman Ryan voted AGAINST funding for ambassadors' security which resulted in security being told to leave not long before this disaster! Save the money for tax breaks for the rich! Good job Ryan! Are you happy now?

        October 26, 2012 at 8:21 am |
  36. LoveYour Country

    Do you think you and your colleagues could dig deeper on Benghazi!!! There is a lot going on with this story...gun running, lying to Americans, Obama strong arming Hilary Clinton, US funded weapons in the hands of Jihadists...if you even care about our Country...get to work!!!! You are a gifted, talented journalists...serve this Country...now!

    October 25, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
  37. TexasMom2012

    The Obama administration made this political by attempting to blame the deaths in Benghazi on a video that no one had ever heard of after Obama paraded around for over a year crowing over the death of Bin Laden. Really? Which is more likely to motivate extremists on 911? Looks like Obama was desperate to avoid admitting that terrorists attacked us just like he has failed to admit Major Nidal Hassan was an Islamist extremist who yelled Allah Akbar while killing his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood. Instead, failing to acknowledge Hassan's contacts with an American extremist in Yemen (who cpwas later killed in a drone attack), the Obama administration falsely claimed the Fort Hood attack was "workplace violence"! They have contorted the truth in obvious ways in order to claim AlQueada is on the run. They are no longer credible and the recent leak of emails proves they cherry picked info they wanted to release while excluding info that did not fit their meme of AQ on the run. There is no explanation only lame excuses and that cover up language of "we have to wait until after the election for the investigation to make its findings". BS

    October 25, 2012 at 9:17 am | Reply
  38. Sarah B

    4 people died while we watched..and did nothing....

    How sick is that???

    October 25, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
    • lynnmarie97

      Pretty sick! Ever sicker is that our Prez jetted off to Vegas for eats, drinks, and money whilst two of our own were stranded for SEVEN hours on a rooftop in Benhgazi. The two died a hero's death after trying to fight off the terrorists.......I imagine they were thinking that some one would would save them. The two came to the aid of our Ambassador, something they did not have to do. Heros. The cover needs to be blown off of this cover up, but don't look to CNN to do the job. Change the channel.

      October 25, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        Obama was already in Vegas for the fundraiser you RIGHT-WING nut!

        Unlike Bush, Obama did not continue reading children's books and stare into the lights wondering ... what to do.

        Once Obama got word of the Benghazi attack, he immediately took charge and did what had to do and what he could only do.

        October 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
      • dc

        Etch A. Sketch – You've been drinking the kool-aid for so long you've turned purple and your nose is growing!

        October 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
      • MommaDeeds

        Hey Etch – he watched it real time in the situation room, then headed to Vegas and said he had a bad day, but he knew that there would be bumps in the road. Wow, I be there are four families who feel like that bump in the road was "not optimal"

        October 30, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  39. Brad

    Hilarious stuff I'm reading...lying in the name of intelligence gathering that's a good one. And the CIA givving Romney the same info that the this was a protest over a film...don't you peoeple realize that this ruse is part of the cover up as Obama had the truth the same day? Did Obama give Romney these e-mails of let his view the drone video? NO he didn't. What the liberals are avoiding is the reasons for Obama's coverup, namely, he put these extremists in power then left our embassy personnel's safety to an extremist militia who bailed when the attack started...because their friends were the attackers. DO SOME REASEARCH...the Ansar al-Sharia is a splinter group to the February 17th Brigade.

    October 25, 2012 at 7:58 am | Reply
    • innercityguy

      Keep in mind that Romney is getting security briefing as well. He knows, hence, why I suspect he backed off – go back and watch/listen to the last debate and what he said about weapons. He boxed the President in. There has been much speculation that a combo of Iranian/Russian backed terrorists kicked our reara while we were trying to arms the other side. Again, another speculation, but the delay was probably to avoid escalating into a regional war with other nations. Yes, other nations; not just terrorists. Again, speculation on my part. That is why having the truth is important

      October 30, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  40. rightospeak

    Some may be connected to Mickey Mouse, some to Marsians . What a spin !May be some are connected to freedom fighters,activists who would like to get rid Libya of NATO influence ? Didn't we create Al-Queda in Afganistan ?

    October 25, 2012 at 7:43 am | Reply
  41. scott

    I think they knew yet did not want them to know we knew. Let them think we thought it was over a video, let them relax and then take them out. Now they go into hiding, because they now know we know who was behind the attack. People jumped all over Carter about the Hostages in Iran, saying he was doing nothing, yet the whole time we were training for a rescue(did not work). But people wanted so bad to make our president look bad they talked too much.

    October 25, 2012 at 5:58 am | Reply
  42. charlie stocker

    i expected an "october-surprise" from Obama, but i didn't think he would spring it on himself; with this inept cover-up of lies. Romney couldn't have done this this well!!!

    October 25, 2012 at 3:17 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Mormon Bishop Mittens did so well in debate #2 and debate #3 to expose Obama's cover-up on Libya ... LMAO

      October 25, 2012 at 4:03 am | Reply
      • justjoe

        Hey etch. I smell the kool-aid on your stupid breath from here. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

        October 25, 2012 at 6:55 am |
      • gunnin101

        Typical liberal hypocrisy.. "Mormon Bishop Mittens".. ok to denigrate one's faith as long as it suits your needs.

        October 25, 2012 at 7:13 am |
    • Mtheumer

      Not up on current events I see. There was no Facebook or Twitter claim of responsibility. Try again!

      October 25, 2012 at 4:09 am | Reply
      • Mike

        Evidenty neither was the liberal state dept as they're the ones who banged out the email as it was going on. hmmmm, wonder why they would come up with that out of the blue?

        October 25, 2012 at 9:07 am |
  43. Heebeejeebee

    This whole question about emails and knowing is ridiculous. I worked in intelligence for 7 years. there are perfectly valid reasons not to tip your hand and tell what you know, mainly it has to do with controlling letting the enemy know what YOU know to obtain a larger objective. Everyone should know the story of Enigma in world war II. The British broke the German Enigma code, they knew they were going to bomb Coventry back to the stone age. They could have evacuated the city but if they did that to save a several thousand lives then the Germans would know the British had cracked Enigma. By letting the Germans bomb Coventry, Britain ultimately achieved total victory.

    October 25, 2012 at 2:42 am | Reply
    • steve

      So you're saying "Intelligent" people left the Ambassador exposed ?
      I am not as intelligent as you , I'm an average Joe.
      But from the days of the Bible, to every other Action Movie, to the Bloods and Crypts street gangs .
      An Eye for an Eye , has always been the way of the world . "Unintelligence" can't access that by taking out an Al Queda #2 by a drone attack , days before 9/11, leaves high ranking officials as targets , they are considered easier targets in reckless places like Libya .
      Our Ambassador is not bait !

      October 25, 2012 at 3:10 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        You are indeed not very intelligent as you say.

        There was no COVER-UP. Obama did not lie.

        The OP was not saying Ambassador Stevens was not sacrificed. He was saying, that in order to catch the people who attacked and killed Stevens and 3 others, you have to play dumb so that your enemy gets over confident and makes a mistake.

        That is why what Mormon Bishop Mittens did was DISGRACEFUL. That is why now he and the Republicans are being put in their place and being quiet about it ... because it's a NATIONAL SECURITY issue and not a POLITICAL issue.

        October 25, 2012 at 4:01 am |
    • tavernvoice

      And what would be the perfectly valid reasons to falsify a reason claiming it was a video? In this case, this appears to be all politics. Could it be that its not good campaign politics to let the country know that on the anniversary of 9-11 we are not much safer. And that AQ has the organizational level and ability to attack our embassy. Remember, this email just came out a couple days ago. But it was sent 2 hours after the attack. And the claim came shortly thereafter.

      October 25, 2012 at 6:08 am | Reply
    • justjoe

      This is for etch. Play dumb? They and you aren't playing.

      October 25, 2012 at 6:58 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        Here's what dumb ... when Mormon Bishop Mitten's and the GOP no longer are making this a big POLITICAL ISSUE and the right-wing nuts like you are still crying about it ...

        There is nothing ... that is why Mormon Bishop Mitten's no longer cares about it because he knows he has nothing to gain from it.

        October 25, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
  44. kenny

    Do we all have short memories in the U.S ? . When Moammar Gadhafi was killed his loyalist went into hiding but were still in the street of Libya. al-Qaeda can lay claim to the attack on U.S embassy but i dont think they are responsible for the attack. they are just trying to take credit for it.

    October 25, 2012 at 2:29 am | Reply
    • steve

      The Ambassador got killed by an orchestrated attack , by people who hate America.
      Why were we being told that this was a result of a spontaneous protest of a video gone awry , when the clear evidence shows otherwise ?
      There are spin doctors who want their man get to be reelected at all costs. It wasn't to hard to go with the flow since the Main Stream Media were already blaming the attack on a video , as a copy cat to the Embassy in Cairo .

      October 25, 2012 at 2:55 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        Because there was no such *CLEAR EVIDENCE* of who was responsible for the attack until 2 weeks later.

        Did you not read the CIA intelligence briefings released on Monday ... before the Presidential debate#3 on foreign policy?

        Susan Rice was simply echoing what the CIA had given both the Obama administration and Mormon Bishop Mittens!

        Mittens got the same CIA intelligence briefings as Obama did! And for 2 weeks, the CIA did not know who was responsible for the attacks and assumed it was just people angry over the YouTube Christian Taliban video.

        So if Mitten's got the same CIA intelligence briefings as Obama did, why did he jump to conclusions and push a "cover-up" story? HINT: POLITICAL GAIN

        Now that Mitten's and the GOP got exposed, they no longer want to talk about Libya because there is no POLITICAL GAIN for them.

        Mormon BIshop Mitten's got PWNED in debate #2 for LYING about Obama not calling it an "act of terror". And in debate#3, Mittens didn't even want to talk about Libya! Because he knows he has NOTHING.

        October 25, 2012 at 3:55 am |
      • MommaDeeds

        Etch a Sketch,

        Any good points you may have are totally and undeniably diminished because of your juvenile name calling. What are you in fifth grade? I guess you feel a little outnumbered here, this is a highly emotional issue. You did give me some points to think about. I for one feel like Romney has stopped talking about it because if he does, then HE becomes the story. I think it is a brilliant strategy for him to let it play out in the news, and not add any fuel to the fire. Like I said, I think you raise some interesting points, but can't take you too seriously because of your intolerance.

        October 30, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • Goraz

      Still no one is asking why General Ham's rscuee team was told to stand down, not once but twice, and then relieved of his command when he later ignored the stand down order. Something stinks to high heaven. Even the two seals who came to their aide were originally told to stand down. So basically there were only two people at the CIA safe house, ambassidor Stevens and his aide.

      May 3, 2014 at 6:40 pm | Reply
  45. Etch A. Sketch

    RIGHT-WING nuts claim that base from this article: Obama knew in near real-time that the attack was a terrorist attack

    No, the emails do not reveal any FACTS ... only ASSUMPTIONS.

    The CIA assessed and communicated to both Obama and Mormon Bishop Mittens that the attack appeared to be a result of protesters angry over the YouTube Christian Taliban video. It took the CIA and FBI two weeks before they could definitively claim that it was indeed a coordinated attack by a known terrorist group.

    In the heat of the moment of the attack, emails are being sent by folks on the ground that there is an attack. That is not a RATIONAL assessment. Because nobody knew at the moment it was happening, WHO THE ATTACKERS WERE!!!

    What if it is later revealed that the attackers were Iranian secret agents? Or Russians?

    Then what? You would be accusing Obama for lying that it was a terrorist attack instead of a declaration of war by country.

    That is why the RIGHT-WING nuts are clueless as to why both Mormon Bishop Mittens and the Republicans have gone quiet about this issue. Because they know there is NOTHING! And that they would be the ones American's blame for POLITICIZING a national security issue.

    October 25, 2012 at 2:07 am | Reply
    • steve

      Were you the guy that kept betting on the horse that was 100 to 1 for even money ?
      You are ignoring 20 facts before , during and after , to take the same narrative that Susan Rice took , 5 days after the fact ...When in doubt blame a video !
      Since Obama loves Hollywood so much , I'll give you one famous movie quote :
      "You can't handle the truth ! "

      October 25, 2012 at 2:41 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        Apparently, you have more *FACTS* than the CIA do.

        Mittens could have exposed Obama in debate#2 and debate#3 ... but he didn't

        Instead, in debate#2, Mittens got PWNED by Obama.

        In debate#3, Mitten's was afraid to talk about Libya because earlier in the day it was revealed that CIA gave both him and Obama the same initial assessment that the attack was from people angry about the YouTube Christian Taliban video.

        A real cover-up would be to exaggerate WMD claims to the UN so that you could send thousands of American soldiers to their death avenging Saddam Hussein for his attempts to assassinate your father.

        October 25, 2012 at 3:38 am |
    • dc

      The Governor's name is Mitt Romney. People might take you a LITTLE more seriously if you weren't falling into the same DNA as most other Democrats – SARCASM! Can't you carry on a discussion without the put downs? That's one of the reasons a lot of people don't like Obama and his bayonets and horses! Treat people how you would like to be treated!.

      October 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Reply
    • Jackie

      @Etch I am proud of you, you understand National Security and Intelligence, you also was watching all the breaking news stories. I don't live in the US and I know exactly what you know, makes me realise that a lot of your citizens read but don't understand, hear but don't listen. Thank you for all those explaination. the Republicans are making Benghazi political when it should not be, they need to realise that persons were killed, which has nothing to do with politics.

      October 25, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Reply
  46. Etch A. Sketch

    This basis for the RIGHT-WING nuts hysteria about a so called "cover story" is based on the following Susan Rice quote

    September 16 – Susan Rice

    "It began spontaneously in Benghazi. It was a spontaneous reaction to what had transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video"

    And it was revealed on this past Monday, that the Susan Rice's quote was exactly what the CIA assessed and told the administration.

    Who else did the CIA tell?

    Mormon Bishop Mitten's and Paul Ryan got the same CIA assessment as did Susan Rice, Clinton, and Obama. But instead of going with the CIA assessment, they politicized the issue and created a fake "cover-up" story.

    That is why Mitten's did not want to talk about Libya on Monday. Because Obama would have exposed him because Mitten's got the same intelligence briefing as Obama ... and those intelligence briefing from the CIA in the initial 2 weeks said nothing about Al Qaeda.

    Just think about that ... let it sink in ...

    Why would Obama lie about this knowing that Mormon Bishop Mitten's got the same intelligence briefings? All Mittens has to do is say, "Here are the CIA intelligence briefings that you and I both got that shows that you lied!" ...

    Of course, Mitten's never did that, did he?

    Instead, it was revealed this past Monday, that it was Mormon Bishop Mittens who lied for POLITICAL GAIN.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:51 am | Reply
    • dc

      .... and what have you done with your life that is so great? Is talking down to people your only true talent?

      October 25, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  47. nv voter

    Has everyone seen the movie "Obama 2016"??? If not, you should. Explains a lot of his decisions/actions.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:40 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Did you realize that MORMONISM is really just COMMUNISM?

      If you don't know, go ask any EX-MORMONS.

      That will reveal to you why Mitten's takes after his idol "Joseph Smith".

      October 25, 2012 at 1:53 am | Reply
      • charlie stocker

        you are a bird-brain! we are electing a president, not an Imam or priest. he will be better than the one telling the catholic church to pay for "anti-life" insurance requirements.

        October 25, 2012 at 3:22 am |
  48. Blake

    How does the President sleep with this blood on his hands? I won't sleep, I will be praying to God to bless in the highest the brave men who suffered this fate at the hands of those angry beasts. The two Navy Seals fought to the end, alone and abandoned. I cannot stand to hear the name Obama.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:33 am | Reply
    • ebbrauer

      I can't stand to hear Romney, Ryan, Issa, Chafee, McCain, Cheney, pr Rove. (I could go on but why bother). Talk about making us look stupid to our enemies. Republicans are playing right into the hands of Muslim extremists and the extremists are loving it. Maybe Issa could wikileak some more confidential data and endanger the lives of some more of our heroes.

      Stupid is as stupid does.

      October 25, 2012 at 2:07 am | Reply
      • dc

        Your last point was the only correct one.

        October 25, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
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  49. Anna

    Our president needs to address our concerns by having a press conference and answering some critical questions. It is wrong to try and blame the republicans for a problem the president, Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice caused by not being up front with the American people. We deserve to know what really happened on 9/11.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:20 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Ummm ... what do you think the investigative committee that is for?

      So that we can hopefully find out all the FACTS without any PARTISAN interpretation for POLITICAL GAIN.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:32 am | Reply
      • dc

        .... and it will make it's findings known AFTER THE ELECTION! How convenient!

        October 25, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  50. GAY GUY


    October 25, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
    • Tim Rigney

      Do you honestly think Romney's not an atheist? What do you think that briefcase they always carry around near him has in it? "Thou shalt not kill." Period. It's a non-negotiable Commandment which isn't open to interpretation or wiggle-room.

      October 25, 2012 at 8:31 am | Reply
  51. Obama Failed. Arab Spring is Geyser of Discontent.

    Those poor men, especially the two lone Navy Seals at the end. They knew their fate. God Bless their families and above all else let the truth prevail here.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
  52. Kenzie

    It is never ok for an administration to lie and cover up like they have. If they will lie about this what else have they been lying about???????

    October 25, 2012 at 1:15 am | Reply
  53. david

    what is the matter with people in this country? do you think that the middle east is our newest states? do you think we have some kind of ruler complex that we have to fix this part of the world? do we run our politics around which party might be at fault for bad things that happen in the middle east? for gods sake give it a rest people! we as well as any american president are not at fault for what happens in this part of the world. yes its sad we lost 4 more americans over there. on the other hand what are we doing sending people over there in the first place. these are stone aged people living in stone aged countries practicing a stone aged violent faith. we are never ever ever going to change these people. let them kill each other as a national past time if they want. give arms to both sides of the conflect so they can kill each other faster. these people bore the heck out of this 63 year old man. they don't need to be front page news anymore 60 years of it is enough. if they make any move on Israel we need to use that as a reason to make all of the middle east nothing more than a molten glass desert in about 20 minutes or less. they can't hit us at home with any rocket they will ever have so screw them and their threats. they will sell the oil anyways on the open market or the will have to learn how to eat sand. how sbout we just leave them to killing each other they seem to like doing so.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
  54. lynnmarie97

    Why don't you do a story about the two navy seals that were stranded for SEVEN HOURS on the roof of their compound fending off terrorists? The guns they were using were found caked with blood atop that building. How about our Ambassador who fled to the safe room which now we found out was a closet. The US had planes in the area and our incompetent leader just let two heros suffer and fight alone atop a building for SEVEN HOURS fighting terrorists. Then our incompetent leader flew off to Vegas. Worst president eva!

    October 25, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      They were EX-navy-seals working under a PRIVATE contract. The subtle distinction is important. So hopefully, you understand the difference.

      October 25, 2012 at 4:11 am | Reply
      • lynnmarie97

        A seal is a seal for life. Being left for dead after fighting alone on a roof top after coming to the aid of our Ambassador, Heros and Seals. Perhaps you need a a not so subtle lesson on how the POTUS is a joke and his foreign and domestic policies have failed miserably. Jetting off to VEGAS was a rotten, arrogant thing to do when US citizens and an Ambassador have died. SEVEN hours on a rooftop fending off terrorists imagine..........

        October 25, 2012 at 8:44 am |
      • dc

        More people would have known that if Obama had mentioned it.... He just lumped them all together. The seals came because they cared... not because they were paid to.

        October 25, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Etch A. Sketch

      And apparently, you also know more about what was happening that night because you were in the command center where Obama and everyone were figuring out what was happening and how to respond. If you were there, you would have order two planes to go bomb the entire place.

      Right. You really think if there was a chance they could save those people, that they wouldn't have done it? You really think 2 people can hold off 40 people in 7 hours? Right.

      October 25, 2012 at 4:18 am | Reply
      • lynnmarie97

        Yep, because I have an open mind and read and consider news from all sorts of media. I don't just lap up what is posted on CNN. Open your mind Etch A. Sketch.

        October 25, 2012 at 8:47 am |
      • Etch A. Sketch

        No, you don't have an open mind. Because you are pushing the RIGHT-WING nuts failed narrative.

        The FACTS do not point to any cover-up or lies. The cover-up was so good that ... Obama the next day, called it an "ACT of TERROR".

        The cover-up was so good that ... the CIA gave both Obama and Mormon Bishop Mittens the same intelligence briefings that said they believed the attack was a result of angry Muslims over the YouTube Christian Taliban video.

        If you were really OPEN MINDED, you would see that this whole issue was created by RIGHT-WING nuts to fabricate a story for Mormon Bishop Mitten's POLITICAL GAIN.

        It BACKFIRED. It FAILED. Now Mormon Bishop Mitten's has moved on and no longer is talking about it ... because he knows he has nothing to gain from it!

        October 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
      • dc

        Either you haven't completely done the research, or you are about to drown in the kool-aid, or YOUR NOSE IS GROWING REALLY LONG, or you are just a bottom-feeder. Or all of the above.

        October 25, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
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        November 11, 2012 at 7:32 am |
  55. steve


    234 incidents against western assets in Libya in 1 year .

    Security makes repeated requested to beef up Security !

    The Ambassador requests additional security due to growing extremism.

    The Brits and Red cross pull out because they access that they can't secure their personnel, after attempts were made on them.

    A drone attack kills a high ranking Al Queda member days before.

    A 14 foot hole was already made at the American compound in attacks on it April and June .


    Lawlessness rules the ground in Libya with a weak unestablished Gov't in control.


    State dept official ,Charlene Lamb views and corresponds with security on the ground in Realtime during the attack.

    Emails are sent to the FBI , WH and the State dept. from officials monitoring the attack, with no mention of protesters.

    Al Queda affilailiates take credit for the attack.


    Videos showing armed men with RPG's in and around the compound.

    Mortars were assessed as being used on the compound.

    on 9/14 CNN reporters find a diary where the Ambassador fears that he is on an Al Queda hit list.


    "Based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy "


    October 25, 2012 at 1:07 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Your best assessment should be that you have been taken as a FOOL by the RIGHT-WING blogosphere and Mormon Bishop Mitten's fake crocodile tears he shed for POLITICAL GAIN.

      Because apparently, you have more intel than the CIA, military, and the Obama administration about what is going in Libya!

      You really think your so called *facts* are all there is to it? It's not as simple as you claim, that is why nothing you stated supports your conclusion.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Reply
  56. Juanito

    This is worse than watergate, this time the media is trying to cover for the president though. President Romney will expose this coverup.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      You mean like how Mormon Bishop Mittens got exposed in debate #2 and how he didn't want to talk about Libya in debate #3?

      Mormon Bishop Mittens knows there is nothing ... why? Because he received the same intelligence briefings that Obama did!

      October 25, 2012 at 1:35 am | Reply
    • randi

      when will future pres romney expose this!!! I M WAITING THIS IS A DISGRACE AS OBAMA IS TO THE US!!

      October 25, 2012 at 2:26 am | Reply
      • Etch A. Sketch

        Debate#2, Mittens got PWNED by Obama.

        Debate#3, Mittens didn't even want to talk about Libya.

        Candidate Mormon Bishop Mittens can't even expose Obama in the debates. Why? Because he is the one LYING for POLITICAL GAIN only. There was no cover-up ... because Mittens got the same intelligence briefings as Obama!

        Those intelligence briefings said nothing about any terrorists group being responsible for the attack until 2 weeks later.

        October 25, 2012 at 3:47 am |

      Cover for the president? Cover up what for the president? The president doesn't handle security for compounds. That's the duty of the state department. How does Watergate even compare to this? You sound like Romney's party. Turning a tragic situation into politics. As a country who just helped another country win it's freedom, many would assume the people of Libya would be on our side. As a fact, after the attack many Libyans protested the attacks, giving apologies to America and praise for assisting in a Liberated Libya. So in conclusion stop pointing fingers and trying to find the smallest reason to throw the President under the bus. A country is only as strong as those who live within it.

      October 25, 2012 at 2:53 am | Reply
    • InnerCityGuy

      @Juanito – I saw a great post about not using the term Watergate. Those there were older will remember the Nixon led break in of the Watergate towers that led to his resignation instead of impeachment. Thats aid, young voters will not have the context (some will).

      The only fact we do know is that there was a cover up for something. Will the American people ever get the truth?

      October 28, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Reply
  57. GAY GUY


    October 25, 2012 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • GAY GUY


      October 25, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
    • Etch A. Sketch

      Did you know: MORMONISM is really just COMMUNISM?!

      Ask any EX-MORMONS. They have to give 30% of their income to the LDS Church!

      And all Mormons must obey whatever the head priest says ... because he is the only that has special powers to get *orders* from God.

      Since Mittens is a Mormon Bishop ... that makes him a COMMUNIST!

      October 25, 2012 at 4:35 am | Reply
      • Sad 4 Misled "Etch A. Sketch"

        Etch A. Sketch,
        "30%" – Wrong
        "Obey whatever High Priest says" – Wrong
        "Communism" -Wrong
        That behemoth-sized chip you have on your shoulder could be lovingly removed through your renewed desire to read the Bible, pray and love people of all faiths. I find it strange that you would go to disenfranchised members of your church to get "answers". When I want to learn the truth about what Orthodox Jews believe, I typically consult those who actively participate and who are current on church orthodoxy and principles, not a non-practicing, disinterested and perhaps bitter dissenter of a local Synagogue. Next time you want to know what a faith community believes I suggest you go to sources who are in the know and not careless, ill-motivated, dissenters.

        October 25, 2012 at 11:03 am |
  58. swolandowners

    All sarcasm aside. It is a shame that Obama has made this a political issue. It doesn't (and shouldn't) take much to rally American's to unite and set aside their differences when we are attacked by an outside foe. We would have his back in an instant. But desperate to perpetuate the myth that Al-Queda was licked, our President elected to blame an American Citizen who had exercised his right to free speech. A commander-in-cheif cant stand against the cornerstone of what America fights for and has fought for for over 200 years, then try to walk it back in a few days and claim his actions sacrosanct from political discussion. You wanna be proud of that act, go ahead – but don't complain when its your speech that loses favor.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • Blake

      You have said very well what I have been unable to express. Thank You.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:50 am | Reply
  59. olaf

    our government is still trying to say al qaeda's in iraq?

    October 25, 2012 at 1:02 am | Reply
    • Chuck

      Havent you been reading the news lately? Al Queda is going strong in Iraq, after all we are out of there, so they have free reign.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:09 am | Reply
  60. sheila

    HEARTBREAKING that these brave SEALS fought off the attackers for 6+ hours and we failed to send help! Unthinkable!
    We are Americans and we don't leave our people behind!
    This is one of America's darkest moments because we didn't even try to save them. My heart also goes out to our brave military who were ready to assist, but were held back. This was a horrible military strategy! Someone needs to be fired – how about the Commander in Chief for starters!!!!! And a trip to Vegas the next day is unconscionable.

    October 25, 2012 at 1:00 am | Reply
  61. mariner I

    It is interesting to note that different commenters appear to have perspectives that provide a view of core agendas. Some people genuinely would like to really understand what happened in Benghazi. Others clearly are using this issue as a basis to vent and to use for their varying political agendas. I often note that the Republicans have no sense of proportion but more importantly that for all of their lip service regarding patriotism, these commentaries illustrate that they possess none whatsover. This issue should bring people together but it does not. It is just so much kerosene to be used for the disenfranchised to pour into the fire of a never ending political rage. These people always have an agenda and it is never for the benefit of the country, it is for selfish and petty political purposes. Do we mourn the dead? No we do not, we use the issue and matter before us as an axe to grind or as a wedge issue to score political points. As such these issues and responses illustrate our pettiness, prejudices and our primal fears. More than anything they highlight the current state of our union which is to say non-existent. As stated, in the most singular of terms, it illustrates that we have made America and the American political discourse and process, our own worst enemy. As a result we want someone to pay, to be punished; not for Benghazi but for being a dysfunctional society that is not making it possible for average Americans to have a life worth living nor providing passage to get to the other side of the bridge; the promised land. Based on the a reading of the people commenting it is doubtful that many here would have even a remote clue to what I have stated here, they are too self-involved and out to lunch to get it, for the rest press on, this too shall pass.

    October 25, 2012 at 12:56 am | Reply
    • paulm5545

      "I often note that the Republicans have no sense of proportion but more importantly that for all of their lip service regarding patriotism, these commentaries illustrate that they possess none whatsover."

      And then...

      "As stated, in the most singular of terms, it illustrates that we have made America and the American political discourse and process, our own worst enemy."

      Well, based on that first quote...welcome to the community of political discourse. Now, get off your high horse.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:01 am | Reply
    • swolandowners

      Do they just bleed the logic out of you with leeches or what? I mean seriously – did you read that drivel? Here's the synopsis – Mean people are bad. Mean comment, mean comment, mean comment. People with a political agenda are bad. Political agendaX3.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
    • sheila

      Mariner, You sound like you have a good heart and are trying to make sense out of all of this, as are we all. I am one of those outraged by this event but I want to explain that it is not primal fear, but the God given instinct to protect. I am speaking as a woman and a mother. A mother's instinct is to fight for her children and I am deeply saddened and angered that some mother's sons were so neglected by our own Government. This whole situation was preventable from weeks before it started to the last hours. It was avoidable and those mothers deserved better. I am not in favor of playing politics with this, but we are about to hire a Commander in Chief for the next 4 years. There will be other mothers that will have to live with the decision we make in 2 weeks and that is why this needs to be discussed.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:37 am | Reply
  62. Craig Kones

    Obama has throw Sec. Clinton under the bus and tried to keep this underwraps until after the elections. WRONG, MANCHURIAN. You are going down you liar.

    October 25, 2012 at 12:55 am | Reply
  63. curtis r.

    Obama is a liar and will stop at nothing to get re-elected....!!! al queda on it's heals? LMAO!!!

    October 25, 2012 at 12:45 am | Reply
    • GG

      On their heels. – He is helping them to regroup, while at the same time, attacking in some area's. He is all over the map on terrorist. I'm confused by his strategy. I like the drone strikes – to me that is a very effective way to keep them guessing. They don't know who they can trust, or where they are safe. But what is he doing in Libya? Egypt? He seems to be propping up those affiliated with terrorist organizations.

      October 25, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
  64. Etch A. Sketch

    Mormon Bishop Mittens dodged the Vietnam War draft for 9 years pretending to do MORMON stuff in FOREIGN countries.

    Just imagine, if Mittens is President and then sends troops into Iran or Syria ...

    Just think about that. Let it sink it .....

    October 25, 2012 at 12:44 am | Reply
    • GAY GUY


      October 25, 2012 at 12:55 am | Reply
    • ocda531

      "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." You sir exemply this.

      October 25, 2012 at 12:59 am | Reply
    • blame Bush for everything

      Dude. Lay off the Mormon hate. Not only are you wrong, you sound like an ignorant ass that doesn't have a clue about Mormons or Romney. Infecting your posts with meaningless hate toward any religion is about as UN American as it gets.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:00 am | Reply
    • Reload

      Low life bigot POS.

      October 25, 2012 at 1:02 am | Reply
    • steve

      Wasn't Mohamed Ali a draft dodger ?
      Last I heard everyone worships him !

      October 25, 2012 at 2:31 am | Reply
  65. curtis r.

    Why isn't CNN running this story, screaming at the top of their lungs your president is not telling the whole story for political reasons. Wake up people.... I'm a republican but not to the extreme of some. I would bet that i could take 100 democrats that are voting for obama. And i could ask them simple U.S. History questions and they would get 90% of those questions incorrect. Jay Leno proves it everyday how dumb most americans are. But because Obama is cool and he says things that are hip and he's "likeable". Lets make him the the "prez". Frankly this country disgusts me. MORONS, GULLIBLE, LAZY, NO WORK ETHIC, this is why other countries can't stand us. It's not because we are "FREE" its because... Can you sing the national anthem? Say the pledge? BET NOT!!! take a good look around folks its going to sh?! fast!!!! Before you comment, ask ten 18-32 yr. old men and women these above questions. You"ll Have to text them. Most of them are so moronic they cant hold a conversation. Good luck in your quest. If you can't reach them there at an obama rally instead of resting after a hard days work LMAO!!!!

    October 25, 2012 at 12:43 am | Reply
    • GAY GUY


      October 25, 2012 at 12:51 am | Reply
  66. greg lehrer

    i guess the truth does not mean much

    October 25, 2012 at 12:41 am | Reply
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