Checking the VP debate facts on Libya and Iran
October 12th, 2012
06:44 AM ET

Checking the VP debate facts on Libya and Iran

Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan, the man who wants his job, exchanged fire regarding national security in their only debate before Election Day. They challenged each other's facts and claims and offered starkly different visions for the direction of the country. CNN conducted fact checks on each politician’s assertions.

CNN Fact Check: What about the security in Benghazi?

The September attack that killed four Americans at a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya was the subject of a few claims at Thursday night's vice presidential debate at Centre College in Kentucky.

U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan contended that requests for more security at the mission were denied before the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, on September 11.

Vice President Joe Biden said Ryan is in no position to argue about diplomatic security, arguing that Ryan, in Congress, didn't provide all the embassy security funding that the Obama administration asked for. Biden also contended that the administration knew of no requests for more security at the Benghazi mission.

We'll look at these claims separately.


CNN Fact Check: Iran and the Bomb

Fears of a possibly nuclear-armed Iran took center stage early in Thursday night's vice presidential debate between incumbent Democrat Joe Biden and his Republican challenger, Paul Ryan.

The Wisconsin congressman said Iran's progress has sped along "because this administration has no credibility on this issue."

Biden hit back by criticizing what he called "bluster" and "loose talk" about the issue, saying international sanctions are crippling the Iranian economy and that U.S. and Israeli officials believe Iran is "a good way away" from getting the bomb.

We’ll look at the facts.


Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Biden • Iran • Libya • Nuclear • Romney • Ryan
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  2. lance

    obama doesnt have a clue, just nothing but lyes.

    October 13, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
    • joe

      It's spelled lies, idiot.

      October 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  3. dale

    No matter who is in the White House they are going to have the same problems.

    A divided do-nothing Congress and Senate, there are certain congressmen and senators "" both parties"" from the deep South “Do not like OBAMA” if you know what I mean, they are determined they are going to get him out of office, so they Yell and Argue , insult Fight , and Block each other.

    “” Now “IF” Mitt Romney is in the White House ”” he will have the same problem a do-nothing Congress and Senate, “” Congress and Senate both parties will have issues they do not like "" they will do everything they can to get MITT out of office,“” because of his Religion his Successful Business Profile something ””.

    The real problem is Congress and Senate ""in both parties"" there are a bunch of “”smoke and mirrors narcissist”” that do not like each other, “”Say a lot but Say nothing Windbags”” they do not care about the American people they are supposedly representing, they only care about special insider interests .
    Solution to the problem; vote these people out of office, If the corrupt career politicians “”in both parties”” remain in office, it will be status quo. Term limits 2 like the presidency, problem solved.

    October 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      The primary problem with Congress today is that our politicians have more or less abandoned the decades old practice of selling their votes to each other for something in return, the "Pork Barrell". Now they have to depend on lobbyists! When the "give and take" was handled in house with taxpayer money, things actually got accomplished! Sure, many "projects" were wasteful but a little waste made important legislation get accomplished. Today, this is not happening on the scale of the past. Now, the two sides can't even hold meaningful talks with each other!
      Every member of Congress is "for sale", one way or another (fact of life). Now the "piggy bank" is controlled by outside interests which is much more demanding! The old "Pork Barrell" got privatized!!!

      October 13, 2012 at 7:53 am | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Unfortunately, term limits is not the answer. Politics is all about "connections" and compromise. Long time Congressmen know how to get things done. It takes years to develope. What has happened is the "Pork Barrell" got privatized! Congressmen, in the past, sold their votes for something in return. Sure, there was waste. But the Pork Barrell actually got important legislation accomplished. Today, the House is controlled by these "new" Tea Party reps. All they know is what Eric Cantor tells them! They have no connections and no relations to work with! Amatures just can't get the job done!

      October 13, 2012 at 8:39 am | Reply
  4. Suz

    I agree with you , Rosco! Biden made a fool out of himself last night with his stupid grin, constant interupting-and his lies! Can't wait until this administration is voted out!
    "When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs and there is no peace and quiet" Proverbs 29:9

    October 12, 2012 at 10:14 am | Reply
    • jonathan

      Actually, it was Ryan who was lying.

      Educate yourself, sheep.

      October 12, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  5. Timmy Suckle

    I kissed my way up to VP at a health insurance company. Now I take over $500,000 of your health care dollars for NO VALUE ADDED to your health care. And that’s just me. Now think about how many other VPs, Directors, Managers, etc. are at my company alone. Now multiply that by thousands of others at hundreds of other health insurance companies. From 10 to 25% of your health care dollars go towards administration that adds NO VALUE to your health care. But my company’s PAC dollars will continue to fool you little people into thinking that a single payer system will be bad. Little people like you are so easy to fool. Little people also don’t realize that a single payer system is the ONLY system that would allow little people (as an entire country) to negotiate better health care prices. Little people don’t realize that the Medical Cartels already know that. And that is the reason why the Medical Cartels spend so much PAC money from the hospitals and doctors lobbying against a single payer system. Some little people say that a single payer system would cost you little people more. But if that were true, then wouldn’t the hospitals and doctors WANT that extra money? Yes they would. So why do the Medical Cartels lobby against a single payer system? It’s because the Medical Cartels know it would allow little people to negotiate better health care prices. And that’s what the Medical Cartels are afraid of. Period.
    But us big wigs at insurance companies, hospitals, and pharmacy companies don’t ever need to worry about health care no matter what it costs. We get our health care paid for one way or another by you little people. And we get the little people that work at our companies to contribute to our PACs. And us big wigs say it’s to protect the little peoples’ jobs. But in reality it would be in the little peoples’ best interest to NOT contribute to the PAC. Again, little people are so easy to be fooled. I won’t ever have to worry about losing my job with so many little people being brain washed by the Medical Cartels’ PAC money. Not only that, the Medical Cartels’ PAC money is used to elect so many republicans that will never allow a single payer system. Republicans have always fought against any meaningful health care reform. But that’s what our Medical Cartels’ PACs pay them for. Politicians can be bought so easily.
    Pretty soon the only people that will be able to afford health care is us big wigs. And that’s the way it should be. We don’t want you little people using up the resources when we need them. And once again, I thank you little people for capping my SS tax at the $106,800 level. Now I only pay 1.3% SS tax and you little people pay 6.2%. Also, thank you for extending my tax breaks. I’m using the extra money on my vacation houses.

    October 12, 2012 at 10:11 am | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Your last comment regarding the cap on SSI earnings hits the nail on the head! There should be no cap! Without a cap, everyones rate could be lowered. The people Romney and Ryan care most about wouldn't be paying much more anyway because "their" people don't earn their milions from a paycheck! But the GOP truely doesn't care to lower taxes on the "little people"!
      Health care? There are many very successful health care systems functioning in other countries today. Our system is simply one of the worst! GOP wants to "privatize" everything! Look what happened when the "little people" had their retirement plans privatized! Wall Street took all these new billions and gambled it away!

      October 13, 2012 at 7:21 am | Reply
  6. rosco

    its a shame our vp thinks dead ambassador, high unemp, solyndra deficit are laughing matters, its just a crime to leave these jerks in office

    October 12, 2012 at 10:06 am | Reply
    • joe

      Wars paid for with credit cards are mote pressing issues.

      October 13, 2012 at 6:03 am | Reply
  7. Thomas J Kennedy

    I used to like Anderson Cooper now he seems like a tbagger no pun intented,and what about John King the boy from Dorchester Ma. Hey John starting to forget where you came from?

    October 12, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • StanCalif

      I agree! I used to enjoy watching CNN TV after a long day at work. What I find most disgusting is CNN's practice of hiring non-citizens! Come on, Piers Morgan, Quest and others don't "relate" to us 47%! I would much rather see Elliot Spitzer than Piers! At least Spitzer is "one of us" and has fought very hard for truth and justice. Sure, he had his "Clinton" moments, so what? Clinton is more popular today than ever! At least Spitzer is a citizen who truely cares!

      October 13, 2012 at 8:17 am | Reply
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    October 12, 2012 at 7:34 am | Reply

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