McRaven on bin Laden raid: One of history's "great intelligence operations"
To watch more of Wolf Blitzer’s interview with Admiral William McRaven, tune to “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer” on CNN Thursday 4-7pm ET and Saturday 6-7pm ET.
By Jamie Crawford
While it was one of 11 missions carried out by U.S. special forces that night, the head of U.S. Special Operations command said the raid that killed Osama bin Laden will go down as one of the "great intelligence operations in history."
Admiral William McRaven spoke Wednesday before an audience at the Aspen Institute Security Conference on a panel discussion moderated by CNN's Wolf Blitzer. The talk was his first interview about the raid with a journalist.
McRaven also touched on some of the other pressing issues facing the U.S. military in the discussion that ranged from serious to light-hearted.
At one point, Blitzer asked McRaven how confident they were that bin Laden was actually in that house in Abbottabad, Pakistan. "Suffice it to say we were not certain he was there," McRaven said while declining to offer tactical details of the raid.
"My job was to get him if he was there. If he wasn't there, we would know that pretty quickly and we would get up and get out," he added.
In fact the only nugget he shared about the Navy SEALs team that took bin Laden out was that more than one of the SEALs spoke multiple languages.
McRaven, a Navy SEAL himself who oversees a force of 66,000 special operations forces from all service branches of the U.S. military, said Special Forces operate in 79 countries around the globe. About 7,000 of those are currently deployed in Afghanistan.
In addition to the stealth commando raids the combatant command is known for, McRaven said Special Operations forces also help build civil society and corruption fighting techniques in the countries they operate in.
McRaven also talked about the problem of suicides for veterans and touched on the stresses of serving multiple tours of war.
"We were clearly fraying a year ago, I think that fraying is getting worse," he said.
As the conversation turned to the war in Afghanistan, McRaven said the United States respects the sovereignty of the country. And despite the recent spate of so-called blue on green killings, the killing of NATO coalition soldiers by members of the Afghan military, McRaven said U.S forces trust their Afghan partners "one hundred percent," but still remain on guard for infiltration of militants into Afghan units.
McRaven also conceded the U.S military "uses drones in Afghanistan routinely to conduct strikes," and said the United States goes to great lengths to insure the “intelligence is as precise as it can be” when drones are used in Afghanistan.
When asked what he could tell the audience of the U.S. drone campaign in neighboring Pakistan, McRaven deadpanned "nothing" as the audience erupted in laughter.
McRaven said it did not matter that he serves a commander in chief who has no prior military experience or that the presumptive GOP challenger in this year's presidential election also has no military record.
"We serve the president and commander in chief irrespective of whether they served in uniform or not. We are proud to serve whoever sits in the White House" he said
And party politics do not play a role either, he said. "I very much enjoyed working for President Bush, and I very much enjoy working for President Obama," he said.
McRaven took a firm stand however on the recent spate of leaks to journalists about national security operations that the administration and Congress are currently investigating.
"We are never happy when leaks occur and we go to very great lengths to protect our sources and methods," he said. "Sooner or later it is going to cost people their lives, or its going to cost us our national security."
While continuing to push McRaven throughout the session for more behind the scenes details on the bin Laden raid, Blitzer conceded the admiral did have a sensitive job and needed to protect his sources and methods.
"And my career," McRaven quipped as the audience roared with laughter.
But when he was asked if he was disappointed that he was only a runner up to being named Time Magazine's “Person of the Year” following the success of the bin Laden raid, McRaven deferred.
"It’s not about me," he said. "It's about that young E-5 with two kids on his eleventh deployment. That's who the real heroes are."
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I atttended this speech by Admiral McRaven, and let me tell you one thing: I am very, very glad that this man is on *our* side in the conflict with terrorism. One of the calmest, coolest customers I have ever encountered. And the interview was great, with Blitzer and McRaven in a polite chess match over how much information the Admiral was willing to discuss. Really amazing stuff.
"...the United States goes to great lengths to insure the..." NO, the United States goes to great lengths to ensure the
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As i Said..The Brillian People live at the Pentagon.
Here goes another mindless Tea Partier spewing out his right-wing nonsense!!!
I believe everything this McRaven above said, but then again, I'm just a hillbillie Tea Partier from the South who believes in the right-wing politicians and what they stand for! If McRaven said that bin Laden was killed on May 2, last year, then it has to be true! But what do I know? I'm just an ignorant Tea Partier!
Yeah its all a lie you dont hide dead bodies in the middle of the ocean. The Osama Bin laden hoax , Al queda hoax. The corporate media who tell us liss on a daily. Thank god for the internet and real news reporting by amatures.
I will consider OSAMA BIN LADEN RAID 100% fake..otherwise the U S government which showed the death and dead body of Saddam Hussain in the past, dead body of Gaddafi for several days, dead body of several other high ranking militants but Bin laden body is thrown in the sea ..deep sea so fast that nobody even can see. it is completely hiding its fake story there. its the third biggest lie by US government after the fake story of involvement of alqaeda in 911 attacks.reality on ground is 100% different than the hybrid news in the internet.
Note: the US never had custody of the bodies of either Saddam or Qaddafi. I'd recommend getting back in your cave, the big scary world is gonna get you.
you are the one so afraid you believe every lie the government tells.
Right... because a free press is controlled by the government. Honestly, if you knew what a free press was, you'd never say that they'd be controlled by the government.
Why don't you's just stand on yer head and soil yer pants awready!!
They should raid the 21 trillion in hidden money that people like Romney have stashed overseas so they don't pay taxes. Heck the penalties alone could pay off the national debt. They are probably why we have a debt to begin with. If people were honest and paid their taxes it would be different but cheats like Romney just get richer.
HA HA HA. Specials Ops humor is funny.
Loose lips, sinks ships! Shut the F*&K Up already, White House!!!!
Too bad Osama was killed in Tora Bora. They even have a transcription of his funeral in arabic, and confirmed by many top pakistani officials. And what happens a month after May 1 2011? 30 members of seal team 6 die in a chinook crash!!! I repeat, in a CHINOOK!!!!!
Sure, and Valerie Plame was just a mistake.
Why don't yous just stand on yer head and soil yer pants awready!!!
Come on Patriot, will you kindly cut that Tea Party lingo out? It has no place here. Besides, what does this McRaven take us for anyway? He must think that we're all idiots here!
Wow, 66,000 deployed trained killers. Is it that many bad guys out there? Has anyone considered what happens when the other guys get drones and carry out their own kill list against Americans?
Yeah, there are that many bad guys out there. Your comment about drones is just silly. Drones are useless without air superiority. If our enemies were capable of achieving that, we'd have much bigger problems than drone strikes. But they can't.
Thank you John for making sense on a comment board full of non military types that don't have a clue how this all works.
yeah we F them up. thats what happens.
Last I checked, that number includes all the rear-echelon folks who support the spear. The shaft of the spear, if you will. And honestly, those 66k troops are more effective than whole armies have been.
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You know, Daily show analyzed Bachman and the other cookoo GOP reps that said this stuff. It took four degrees of separation to tie Huma Abedein to any kind of bad activity. Through HSBC, who have been dabbling with crooks AND terrorists, Bachman is linked to terrorists by one degree of separation because HSBC donated $1,000 to her nutjob campaign. I can't wait til society finally realizes these right wing nut jobs are exactly what they are.
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Why don't yous just stand on yer head and soil yer pants awready!!
Bugmenot, why don't you learn to spell.
I am concerned about his last statement concerning the average E-5 on his ,"...11th deployment." What he is emphasizing is that our military might is endangered by excessive deployments in war zones. Over the past ten years the suicide and violent crime rate among returning veterans has exploded. The treatment of PTSD is hindered by a culture of denial about it as it is seen as a sign of weakness instead of a normal reaction to extreme events.
PTSD: the knowledge that you will never again be as awesome as you were. (/sarcasm)
Might help assuage the crime bit if there were actually jobs for vets, vice lip service.
Great comment. I would also like to point out how many times the reaction of the audience was mentioned yet on this line no comment. This was the most serious thing he said all night. 11 Tours of Duty. WOW!
Most SF or SF-like (as in Rangers) deployments are only 3-4 months long. Rather easy to rack up the deployments if you're only downrange for the summer.
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Not as "intelligent" as this operation, was it, Wolf?
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You would assume that CNN would be able to correctly state a huge controversy in the war as "Green on Blue" not "Blue on Green attacks" last i checked our soldiers do not randomly open fire on their Afghan Counterparts.
A pliant media continues to feed a gullible public.
since this thread has turned political, do you need reminding that Cheney received 5 draft deferments, Bush checked a box on his National Guard contract that he would not accept an overseas assignment, Romney received two draft deferments and then an additional ministarial deferment while he went on a mission in France. Most Mormon missions are for 12 months but ol' Willard made his a lot longer to stay out of harms way. All when we had people dying every day in Vietnam. Romeny is as phoney as Bush and thats real hard to do. I have never voted for a democrat in my life but after the condition that Bush and Cheney left our Country I will never be a Republican again. Yes, we do need a president that has a real military background.
I suggest you get your facts straight if you are going to talk about who has served and in what capacity. Since 1933 only three Presidents were not in the Military and all were Democrats
of the 12 presidents who did not serve in the military, it's exactly evenly split 6 & 6...please dont warp facts like Faux News and edit the sound bite...
Really?? Nixon and Reagan were in the military? Really??
Actually, yes. Both Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were in the military.
By the way missions for the Mormon church are for 24 months if your male and 18 months for females. get it right if you're going to post something.
"In addition to the stealth commando raids the combatant command is known for, McRaven said Special Operations forces also help build civil society and corruption fighting techniques in the countries they operate in."
It would be really nice to see these highly trained individuals use their 'corruption fighting techniques' here in the US, starting with Rmoney.
How about using these "corruption fighting techniques" in Washington D.C. against the all-powerful M.I.C.(military-industrial-complex), Rags? It would be great just to rid ourselves of all these corrupt right-wing politicians who keep this country constantly at war!!!
How long has the Pinko Obama kept us in Afghanistan and how many more children will be killed in Syria before you libs realize the world is an evil place. Definition of a hypocrite.......A "proud" liberal
A military coup d'etat? Those usually don't turn out well lol.
Opie has a problem with water boarding but not murder.
That's So McRaven.
What would one expect this bozo McRaven to say? Of course he'll brag his head off over the wanton murder of the purported Ussama bin Laden back on May 2 last year! After all, should one consider the assasination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria on June 28, 1914 also one of " history's greatest events"? Somehow I don't think so!!!
Wow, you're using the wrong display name for that sort of sentiment.
As for the "wanton murder" of Osama Bin Laden: he was a legitimate target. Commanders of hostile forces have always been legitimate targets of soldiers on the battlefield.
It's hard to take anyone talking about the "Purported wanton murder" of a hated terrorist when they can't get historical names right. It was Archduke FRANZ Ferdinand. Fact check or get off the computer.
Willard Romney might as well pick his nose for a running mate.
Now that was funny!!! Good one!
Willard Romney is the epitome of foolishness.
Are we talking about 'Tim Osment' again?
Laughing off the 'tinfoil hat' allegations in advance, some of you folks really need to look beyond the MSM for your information.
I guess the chickhawk right will now insist on court-martialling Admiral McRaven for disclosing classified material. Sure beats actually doing anything. And Mittens can remind us all he was against taking Bin Ladin out before he was for it.
Bring all the troops home and keep the money here.
Imma let you finish, but the Trojans had one of the best military raids of all time.
THANK YOU SIR!!!And to all the other heroes in this country and our military. Thank you for not being partisan or bipartisan but just being solid people who have true respect for our country and the Commander in Chief. It is disgraceful how so called patriots disrespect our president or any president.
I completely agree with you Lib, but then again like you, I'm just a weak minded Tea Partier with very little education so I too consider these goons to be heroes!
What turdorgs news agencies are CNN says "no big deal on intel leaks" FOX says "big deal on intel leaks" what a joke both are
We need 66,000 special ops forces in 79 countries? Why? I can see Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. But 79 countries? I guess our country is so rich (if you ignore our deficits) that we can afford it.
Small groups training in different environments, cross-training with similar friendly units, acting as "force multipliers" to assist friendly forces be more effective with smaller numbers in their own countries, obtaining on-the-ground intelligence, etc. Don't worry, they're extremely cost-effective.
@elvisg you have no idea what all Spec Ops entails. To even ask that question says how ignorant or clueless you are. I served in the military and Spec Ops is not always about combat. Intel gathering, surveillance, counter intelligence, security, and protection of our interests all involves Spec Ops. The fact that you are able to sleep at night and go out and not worry that someone is coming for you is all owed to these brave men and women.
Why don't yous just stand on yer head, and soil yer pants awready!!
Some of these posts by Repubs. are laughable. I think they lie about events so often, they begin to believe it themselves. You know....sort of like Mitt Romney, and they have no shame. I wonder if they think the American public (or those who pay attention) agree with them. What an insult to our intelligence!
Put down your own kookaid and turn off MSNBC.
Some of these posts by Dems. are laughable. I think they lie about events so often, they begin to believe it themselves. You know....sort of like Mitt Romney, and they have no shame. I wonder if they think the American public (or those who pay attention) agree with them. What an insult to our intelligence!
so what you're saying is that mittens is at least a liar and possibly a democrat. Good call, sir
Puddin! Don't ya see? Special forces don't go there just to kill and destroy... oh contraire mon amis! C'est une grace pour libertie! They remain there to teach and coach. Better to offer a strong hand to the poor and beaten, than to battle the evil! If it only takes 66K to keep the world from erupting into a war of millions.... I'd say that is a good exchange rate.
How about McRaven for president? Sense of humor. Serious cojones. Good looking guy. He's got my vote.
I was just thinking that we need a candidate from the Military. Not a Military Democrat or a Military Republican, just Military. Our armed forces are probably the only non-partisan group left and will actualy serve the People.
Service men and women have opinions like everyone else, we just keep them to ourselves (or are supposed to, anyway) for the sake of the mission.
It seems that eventually the US will be a nation governed by the military and no different from African or Southamerican country.Sad.
Yeah, drone strikes in Pakistan that violate national sovereignty and kill civilians–hilarious. I can see why an audience would crack up. Wink-wink, ha-ha. What exactly does it mean that Special Forces build a "civil society"? Because that certainly doesn't fit.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You're a moron and a coward.
Cowards kill civillians. Morons appear to not have any problems with "collateral damage".
Hey guys i think that we should b thanking the special warfare officers who put their lives on the line every time that they get called 2 help stop the terrorists that plague this fine country we live in. If not for them then i think that we will b in a bigger world of hurt than we are already in. So that's why i make it a point to say thank you to any military service member, whether they are wearing their their B.D.U. or are in civilian clothing. It makes me feel great 2 see them smile and say thanks back to me it doesnt take much to show a little apprecication for all of the sacifrices that they have and are going through. So PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SAY THANKS TO ANY SERVICE MEMBER THAT YOU MIGHT COME ACROSS.
"ONE OF THE GREATEST MILITARY OPERATIONS OF ALL TIME" Thank you S.E.A.L.'s
Thank you SEALS who were executed the mission at the Command of Commander in Chief of the Armed Services of the United States of America; Barack Hussein Obama. You know (Stopthemadness) he's sorta like the other Commander in Chief who attacked another country and executed it's crazy leader; who as it turned out had no weapons of mass destruction. Obama 2012!!!
Yes the econ started going south under President Bush but it was just fine till the dems took control of the house and senate. What has obama done besides try and ruin this country? Thank God the republicans have control or obama would have us speaking what ever language they speak in his native kenya.
Going south?? His administration sold our country out for higher profits for their friends after the got us into 2 wars that only served to fatten their military contractor friends and supporters wallets. They f#$%^ed us plain and simple. if you say otherwise you are just another sheep being led by your simple minded approach to the world and politics. Also the Bush administration had f*** all to do with getting Osama, that was a joint military operation undertaken after Obama took office.
HAHA you are one of those "birthers" aren't ya lol. You have no credibility. End of conversation. N. I. G. G. E. R.
Racist fool
True, CNN news ARE lacking, no real information anymore from these folks. Anyway, folks that want a Military leader for President, you people are made to be ruled.. sound familiar. How about someone who will give a crap about our roads, bridges, Educating our youth... instead of running scared of some dudes in caves, just an excuse to eradicate. Lost souls.
WHY?...a force of 66,000 special operations forces from all service branches of the U.S. military, said Special Forces operate in 79 countries around the globe.
What is COST/BENEFITS?
Ignorance is Bliss. You, my friend are very ignorant.
To keep your ignorant behind free?
Per man, they are more versatile and much more useful that an average groundpounder/bulletsponge. More expensive to train and deliver, but you are also skipping the mission-specific qualitative measure of the operations they execute. That value versus the standard infantry/occupation role should be enough for your consideration.
President Bush did not leave office in disgrace. We never would have been able to find bin laden if it wasn't for President Bush. The credit for getting bin laden goes to President Bush not obama. i love how libs make stuff up to try and make obama look like he has actually done something. I will bet anyone that right before the election obama will make sure the pictures of bin laden dead will be "leaked" because he knows he is screwed and will once again leak classified intel to get a boost. Won't work tho. The American people see right through him.
Yeah. And bush left this economy in GRRREEAAT shape to. You ppl never cease to amaze with what's in your little f-ing heads.
Pres. Bush himself said he stopped looking for him years ago. Candidate Obama said he would go into Pakistan if he had to in order to get bin Laden. He did, and we did. You can manufacture opinions all you want, but you have zero truth to your story.
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Bush ordered the Bin Laden unit at the CIA SHUT DOWN.
So no
Bush wanted to go after that bad bad man who tried to kill his daddy. He wasn't too concerned about some silly terrorist who did a no no on 9-11.
Clinton's transition team warned Bush that Al-Qaeda was planning something. Bush said "Don't you worry, as we say in Texas, don't leave a bird in the unturned um fool me twice. We will keep an eye on Sadam." While Bush looked frantically for an excuse to go to war with Iraq, 9-11 happened and he had his excuse. He had Bin Laden cornered until he started to re-position troops to attack Iraq. We could have gotten Bin Laden and his whole leadership in 2002. But, instead we allowed Al-Qaeda to re-group, the Taliban to regain power, Pakistan to become a haven for terrorists, Yemen to become a second home for Al-Qaeda, the war costs to bankrupt the US and so on.
Then Obama got Bin Laden, got us out of Iraq and after his first year (under the last Bush budget) he has had the lowest spending growth in history.
Let's give the Republicans another shot. I'm sure there is another country we can invade. Our grand kids will be happy to work for sub minimum wage to pay for it. But, don't worry no rich people will be harmed.
Cool article...
"When asked what he could tell the audience of the U.S. drone campaign in neighboring Pakistan, McRaven deadpanned "nothing" as the audience erupted in laughter."
Hahaha! HAHAHAHA LOLZ and ROFLMAO!!!!! HAAHAA.... no.
Obama spilling more top secreat info.
Bush would never do such thing. F-ing naive.
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McRaven also conceded the U.S military "uses drones in Afghanistan routinely to conduct strikes," and said the United States goes to great lengths to insure the “intelligence is as precise as it can be” when drones are used in Afghanistan.
McRaven is purely acting is self-preservation of the military budget and was coaxed by republicans to follow through on the fabrication that our President or his cabinet leaked sensitive intelligence information. It is nothing but pure election year propaganda and McRaven is gladly complicit because he doesn't want to see any budget cuts to the military.
Hey John, your "fabrication" about leaks is ridiculous. Are you saying there are no leaks? And try reading the budget request, Obama wants to remove 500 billion from the military regardless of what McRaven says. What a tool you are.
Spoken like a true leader-great job on bin laden now let's get our men and women home safe soon.
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Try applying for one.
Wouldnt construction work typically be the choice after discharge? And I think Pres. Obama touched on infrastructure jobs at some point in some speech or another. Write your congressman–we need federal programs that kill 2 birds with one stone–maintenance and improvement of infrastructure and creates jobs–at a liveable wage. Or just go work at fast food or cell phone store or big box if you want. Theres a thousand of those jobs.
George W. Bush DID leave in disgrace having NEVER avenged 9/11 by getting bin Laden. Obama DID get bin Laden. PERIOD.
The greatest intelligence operations in history would be to free the doctor who was jailed because someone in Washington has a big mouth, they are the one who needs to be in jail
WRONG. The U.S. Navy SEALs got Bin Laden while Obama sat comfortably ensconced in all the luxury the White House has to offer. He may have given the order, but he damn sure was not the one with his *$$ on the line carrying it out.
Well that true, but that is HIS job, and that is THEIR job, and together is how it is supposed to work. You make it sound like you are jealous of an office job.
What do you want him to do. Go and catch the man himself? I bet you're a coward yourself. Trash mouth!
Bush was having dinner with some close friends when he received the news Bin Laden had been killed. He graciously congratulated Obama for the successful operation. Luckily for Obama the military was able to locate Bin Laden in time for the operation to boost his abysimal approval numbers heading into an election. Granted, he had to postpone another vacation to be available to pose for the war room photo ops but sometimes sacrifices have to be made.
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Obozo didn't get bin laden, he still isn't sure exactly what that even means.
Plus, he is a liar
It is ok to flirt with either the left or right but disrespecting the presient and discrediting his true efforts make you one very sorry worthless piece of solid waste. Offer a solution for a change; and one grounded in some semblance of intellect.
For all of you rabid conservatives that want to give Bush credit for getting Bin Laden, on the day he was killed, someone actually involved in the operations says: "Suffice it to say we were not certain he was there,"......three years after Bush left office in disgrace.
It is green on blue and not blue on green.
Green on blue attacks have gone up.
Thank God someone already mentioned this. I was about to have a cow...
f-ing drama queen
As important as terrorism is, in my opinion the US should be more concerned with competing with the other global powers.
Why do we need to compete, and what for?
A great success they got him. And it's unfortunate it took so long.
Great interview/story... I didn't learn anything from it... CNN's stories and news are lacking – they seem to provide less info on what they are telling you every week. Although its not as bad as ABC.
It is obvious that you prefer propaganda to news, go to FOX and be happy.
This is almost like the NSA saying they never listen in on American's conversations.
what a funny tale....Because for a conscious state of mind , the reality is that -both the helicopters were targeted by ISI when it was flying over no fly Zone in Abbottabad, one was shot down and another escaped. Bin laden was not killed there(for he was died in 2003 due to renal failure and half body paralysis) and US soldiers killed in the blown up helicopter were called the seal team 6 that might have been killed in the another helicopter shot down by Taliban the next week.. they were same troops killed in abbottabad. same person never dies time and again in a week interval.
Yeah, I'll actually go with the evidence that points to him being alive past 2003,
Well, let's see...no Americans were killed in the raid, no helicopter was shot down, Bin Laden released tapes discussing current events after 2003, and you're pretty much talking out of your south orifice.
And if bin laden were dead, why were two helicopters full of seals flying over Abbottabad? Were they looking for Elvis?
That tinfoil hat needs an upgrade – badly.
Ha Ha! That comment made me LOL.
And I would like to suggest smoothing out the tinfoil hat, less crinkles, more effective.
So try that before spening Tens of Thousands of Dollars on that "upgrade"
ROFL!!! xD
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PS sorry for double post
I agree with the statement that Bin Laden died of renal failure but it would've been around the 2001 time period most likely. As a medical professional, at his stage of marfan's syndrome
I believe you are confusing Bin Laden with Kadaffi. And it was 'rectal failure' not 'renal failure.' Caused by having a bayonette being used to give an enema. Understandable mistake. Spoken as a patriotic American, backstage at the Man Show.
No, I meant Bin Laden. You are lucky to survive 6 months in the later stages of marfan's.
Sam, You must be a Pakistani. It is clear from both (a) your English (you wrote "for he was died in 2003"), and (b) your indignation over Bin Laden's death. Yes, Pakistan was utterly humiliated. Pakistanis were caught hiding a terrorist. Get over it now. Instead of coming up with some unbelievable fantastic stories, just admit it and stop harboring all those terrorists in your country.