Clinton to Egypt - premature or the push Cairo needs?
By Elise Labott
On Saturday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Egypt, the first U.S. Cabinet official to meet with newly elected president Mohamed Morsy. In some ways, the timing couldn't be worse for Clinton's visit.
Her trip will kick off what is expected to be a steady stream of high-level officials to visit Cairo in coming months, including Defense Secretary Leon Panetta within the next few weeks and culminating with a possible meeting with President Obama on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in September.
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Egypt is in the throws of domestic political chaos and looking inward. The country's Islamist president is engaged in a tug of war with the Egyptian military. President Morsy doesn't have his own cabinet in place and there is no parliament. With no clarity or direction of what comes next or what the fundamental aspects of his government's own working relationship will be, how could he possibly be expected to articulate what the nature of the relationship with Washington might be now that he is president?
Clinton aides realize it is premature for substantive discussions on new initiatives or U.S. assistance. But they say the secretary of state wanted to visit Cairo early after Morsy's swearing-in to show the Obama administration wants to help the new government improve Egypt's fragile economy. If America is to have a better relationship with Egypt, she knows this is how the U.S. can contribute most. In Washington's view, democracy is supported by people in jobs with a growing sense of their future.
Aides say Clinton will be very much in listening mode about what Morsy's priorities are and what the United States can do to help. Having supported a democratic transition in Egypt, the United States is prepared to work with the Morsy government to help it succeed.
Clinton also will be encouraging Egyptians to keep moving forward on democratic reforms. This week in Asia, she sent a message to Egypt's leaders to talk to one another and settle their differences for the good of the people, saying both the president and the military needed to work together to avoid derailing Egypt's democratic transition.
During her visit, the secretary is also expected to raise the delicate issues of women's rights and equality for the country's Coptic Christians, who have faced persecution in the past. That doesn't mean finger wagging, however. Officials say Clinton will simply endorse statements the president has made on all of these issues, which the United States sees as positive. In effect, she will be trying to put President Morsy on the hook to implement the commitments he himself has made.
The peace treaty with Israel and the situation in the Sinai on the border between the two countries will also be high on the agenda. Both the United States and Israel have been concerned about recent cross-border attacks into Israel that have heightened tensions between both countries. An explosive mix of trafficking of weapons and people across the border from Sudan, coupled with a variety of terrorist groups moving increasingly freely in the area, has Israeli officials walking on eggshells.
Israel is worried one deadly terrorist attack across the border could force it to retaliate in Egyptian territory, jeopardizing the decades-long peace treaty between the two countries. Although U.S. and Israeli officials believe Egyptian military leaders know the stakes and are not interested in trouble on the border, they seem to be too preoccupied with the country's domestic problems to pay adequate attention to the Sinai.
Here Clinton must tread carefully, as Egypt is very sensitive about the Sinai issue, which it believes is a matter of its sovereignty. Clinton will urge Egyptian leaders to control the border, not just for its own good, but for the good of the region. Again, Clinton can point to statements by President Morsy about his commitment to peace and stability in the region to reinforce U.S. expectations.
From Egypt, Clinton will travel to Israel, where officials will be looking to see what, if any, messages the secretary will bring from Egypt's new leadership about how it views the future of its relationship with its neighbor.
While she will certainly share her impressions, aides say shuttle diplomacy is not on Clinton's agenda. First and foremost the United States must engage the new Egyptian government and establish its own relationship before it can return to the role of peacemaker that these two countries have relied upon it for in the past.
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tell hillary to take her dirty nose out of the arab issue period, she didnt go to cairo to check no she went to make sure the monster shes creating & the puppet is working accordingly, give it 5 yrs than the US will start another revolution to break it up its the pattren, u see 1st iraq then lybia , egypt syria, whos next i think the us should keep their noses out of the middle east & take care of internal matters like fix the schools & educate our youngster provide clean restrooms in public schools help teacher teac , get out of meddling with other countires no one asked u or neede u hillare get the f,,, out now go take care of your grand kids leave us alone leave syria alone shame on u for sending support to the islamic brotherhood to kill & pretend assad is do it GET OUT LEAVE SYRIA ALONE, you are the devil,s embassador shame=on you u have lots of innocent blood on your frk,n dirty hands
Monica – well said!! I would like to add the following: "Dear Mrs Clinton, I hope you read this. I grew up in Syria and watched the Muslim Brotherhood KILL. I see no difference between the mission statement of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda. If you know a difference I urge to please tell me what it is?. You are now meeting with the the SAME people that KILLED 3000 innocent men and women on sept 11 2001. THe only difference is that they call themselves Muslim Brotherhood instead of Al Qaeda. Those are the same people that were dancing in the street when I was crying for those that were murdered on 911. Why are you encouraging extremest in the mideast? Syria was for the past 40 year a secular country why are you helping the Brotherhood to gain arms and kill innocent people????
Totally agree with you Monica and Salima.. Why the US is interfering in Egypt and applauding Muslim Brotherhood who wants to impose their violent and prejudicial culture on all of Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood (MB) candidate did not win a vast majority it was only a 1% difference. Why MB wants to change the looks of modern society in Egypt before any progress toward a more liberal democratic life, and why Obama and Clinton are pushing toward discrimination against Christians and women in Egypt. Those MB have killed and tried to kill Egyptian presidents, tourists, terrorizing women and anyone dressing modern clothes in streets of Egypt. What does the US wants from Egyptians by supporting MB members to destroy modern life in Egypt?? What does this tell Americans?? Does Obama wants to impose his culture on all of the United States, maybe he has his own culture that he wants to impose by spreading Islamism in the Middle East??? Where is the peace process between Arabs and Israel in all this Islamist world that Obama and Clinton want to create inside and outside the US??? And really Weird, why CNN correspondents have not reported the fact of thousands protesters who surrounded the Hotel where Clinton stayed in Cairo and threw shoes at her and her delegation.. Where is press freedom?? Where are the photos and press reports of those demonstrations in Cairo against US interference in Egypt that took place in several areas in Cairo and Alexandria, for weeks, then during Clinton's visit. Why you don't want to show the other side of the story that majority f Egyptians hate what the Obama administration is doing by interfering in Egypt to destroy modern life there and impose Islamist culture of exclusion, prejudice against Christians, liberals and women????!!!!!!!!!
Awesome piece of well written very srticulated. O need more information Hillary Clintonw
They just declared military support for Hamas,Not just weapons but militarty escalation with troop involvement.
As long as the Palestinians and their supporters are willing the war to continue it will continue and more Palestinians will be killed. When the number of dead Palestinians will satisfy those stillalive they will ask for peace.
Would anyone know the color of the Burka she may wear in respect of what Morsi represents?
U.S. Should ignor some coment and sherich some coment and take a decision that will bring stability to the fragile region, be it war, diplomacy or nagociation!
"If America is to have a better relationship with Egypt, she knows this is how the U.S. can contribute most. In Washington's view, democracy is supported by people in jobs with a growing sense of their future." What kind of BS is this? First, we are not even a democracy, and second, a "growing sense of their future" could mean anything! Who is the retard that said this? Probably Clinton herself.
If Egypt abrogates the peace deal as the rabidly anti-Semite, anti-US Mr. Fareed Zakaria has indirectly suggested (by calling it a peace deal between Two Regimes and NOT Two Peoples, the US must demand that:
a) Egypt handover the Sinai back to Israel
b) Convert the 10's of billions in aid showered on the Egyptians as a reward into loans, and
c) Support Israel in taking back the Gaza strip, and
d) Warn other Arab nations of a return to status quo (Post 1967) e.g. return of the Golan Heights by Syria, and MOST IMPORTANTLY
e) help isarel expel all the "so-called' Palestinians (from both within Israel and the so-called occupied territories) to Jordan where they actually belong.
SHORT OF THESE STEPS WE ARE SEEING A NEW RE-ALIGNMENT OF FORCES OPPOSED TO THE JEWISH STATE (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Turkey, Palestinian Authority, Saudis, The Gulf States, and Pakistan) ORCHESTRATED BY THE LIKES OF Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA who's waiting in the wings (by hook or crook!) to adorn the mantle of the next US Sec. of State in a 2nd Obama admin.
GOD SAVE AMERICA, GOD SAVE ISRAEL!
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Anti-Semite? Egyptians are the largest and the oldest Semites around, how on earth they can be Semites?
correction.....how on earth they can be anti-Semites?
Cyerus... You should ask someone to explain to you how to use a Dictionary. Then you'll be able to use one to learn the meaning of different words. You'll be amazed to discover that the word "Antipasto" does not mean "hatred of pasta", the word "Antigua" does not mean "hatred of Gua" and the word "Antisemitism" does not mean "hatred of Semites".
Thinker.......First look up and see who are Semites, if one is anti-Semitic he is anti Semite. Why not say anti-Jewish? .....The way people like you think and behave is dangerous. Arabs Jews and many African are Semites. I do not care for whatever is written in a dictionary, I rather use my brain.
Cyrus... Antisemitism is hatred against Jews. Just like Antilles is an group of islands. Learn to use a dictionary. The definition of both these words is there in the "A" section. You may try deriving the meaning of these words by looking for "Semites" and "Lles" accordingly and your conclusions will be rather wrong.
This being said I have to agree that the use of the "Jew-haters" term instead of "Antisemites" makes it clear even for mentally challeged among us who're unable to use a dictionary.
Is Sinai yours to ask Egypt to handover? if you have been told that I think you have been lied to. Just to correct your information, Sinai belongs to Egypt thousands of years ago before even Israel exists. Now everybody in the world can see your real intentions and your desire to invade Sinai again, you never looked for peace. You keep telling the world that you're peace state, but no one can believe that.
Ramy... Israel is a peaceful state. You will realize it if you'll recall that Israel NEVER started a war against anyone without being attacked first. As long as Egypt will not try to attack Israel Sinai will remain in their hands. If, however, the new Egyptian leadership will try to start another war against Israel as Egypt has done in 1948, 1967 and 1973 it will lose some lands and, possibly, not only lands.
Why is Hillary in Egypt? She's obviously been sent there by Obama to try to look important in an attempt to score political points for his reelection campaign. But she will change nothing. She's been a huge waste of money since she took office because absolutely no one outside of American Democrats listens to her. They politely ignore her. She's completely insignificant.
Your comment is idiotic. Even most wacko neo-cons agree that Hillary Clinton has been an exemplary Secretary of State. She has performed with energy, dignity and grace in our sick, politically broken, partisan political climate. Your myopic, immature comment only affirms that.
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Hillary is there to arrange for the release of the Blind Sheik or Imam..
She should be on "What Not To Wear" and get a makeover.
you are one million % right, waste of money for us, traveling in class for her, how many people accompany her, their expenses, the plane's expenses etc. you know what, we do not have the power to stop it
Because Bill fahted.
just like any liberal, to kiss Muslim booty. pretty simple.
Yes, no Republican ever did that. Turn off Fox and use your head.
Welcome to democracy in Egypt. The photo said it all.
This is sloppy journalism. If you can't get the names of the key individuals right, what else in the story is incorrect? Who is MORSY??? Is anyone proofreading this stuff?
Obviously not since "Egypt is in the THROWS of domestic political chaos and looking inward...". Horrible.
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This is another person who needs to get the hell out of Washington and stay out other than to come and take pcitures
This is Morsi's plan. 1. Allow the Islamists to fire a barage on Israel from Sinai. 2. Israel retaliates hard.3. Egyptian millitary gets involved. 4. Morsi declares the peace agreement with Israel is void. 5. Egypt is united. 6. Morsi takes control of the military.
A war with Israel will ignite WW3. Every country would be involved... I am not sure if anyone realizes this point but the major players are all involved in the middle east. Everyone has a stake. I got a bad feeling...
Folks in the Middle East–
You believe in God. We in America believe in God.
The Chinese and Russians[to a lesser extent] are anti-religion.
Stalin killed more Russians the Hitler killed Jews.
If you had to pick a "lesser" [so called to you] bad guy to be friends with, wouldn't the USA be a better choice?
Muslims and the West should join together against RUssia and China.
We could really complement each other in many ways and not have to rely on china so much.
The world on the good side vs china and Russia. Many less headaches.
If we fix all the little things along th way, the biggest ones work themselves out.
Pedro... The "folks in the Middle East" believe in a slightly different God. Their ultimate goal to to die killing others in a holy war known as Jihad.
Pedro--many years have passed since 1939-1945 The US is responsible for their own civilian casualty ratio.
Guy in the middle is thinking, "I'm a sittin duck'!
How are we going to help a fragile economy when we can barely manage our own?
Our intelligent advice is free, we have the answers for all other countries and they better pay heed. We know how to retaliate if they don't follow our advice. When we find time we will solve our own problems, we will not repeat not listen to any country that tries to give us their advice. We are the givers not the receivers.
Pieces of garbage articles like these is a perfect example of just how low our expectations are willing to fall when it comes to reporting on the Middle East.
"Move forward on democracy?" By whose definition? One has only to read Morsy's post election speech to get the answer. "Democracy" as defined in the West becomes an oxymoron when spoken by the MB. The US would be delusional to expect anything remotely resembling democracy. Five will get you ten that Ms Clinton will drink the kool-aid.
Unfortunately, your description is very fitting just like talking about "Arab Springs". Are American leadres crazy or just plain idiots?
I wonder if faithful wife Clinton knows where her office might be in the State Department building in Washington. Surely there would be someone who could point her in the right direction, maybe even escort her. Then again, maybe she does not have one or need one. During her overseas travels it is a miracle she has not had to dodge any more bullets. Oops, I remember now that her spokesperson said she 'misspoke' about her bullet-dodging terrifying expeience, which inferred she did not lie.
It is very premature, there is still a power struggle going on in Egypt and until the dust settles the US could be seen as interfering. The only thing this does is give legitimacy to Morsi, who already breached protocol by talking about an imprisoned terrorist in the US. The peace with Israel is predicated on Egyptian and Israeli interests, as long as the leaders are pragmatic and realistic, peace will be maintained. Israel doesn't want the Sinai and Egypt needs to control it's borders to maintain security.
Hitlery gets scarier looking every day... these men look real enthused to be participating in all this 'democracy'
No brain, and no class. Go back to your cave.
USA extending the arm of friendship is the kiss of death. India is the latest casualty.
We send a woman to to try and influence a country who believes women are third class citizens.
Morsi is going to choose a woman as one of his two VPs. When was the last time that happened in America, where women are "first class" citizens? (who also happen to make 80 cents to every dollar a man makes)
worse they think she's stupid and have no respect for this lady...
We must commend the US government for fostering peace between all the parties involved. Good job Hillary Clinton
Until such time as the MB change their charter, peace will be an oxymoron. Wake up honey and smell the facts.
The two faced linton is there to try to buy off the Muslim Brotherhood from not honoring the sham of a peace deal that the crook Mubarak signed. Muslim Brotherhood does not take kindly to people who kill and steal from Muslims namely the Jews , I hope they tell Clinton to go peddle her bull-- some place else. I hope the Muslim Brotherhood begins to help the Palestinians in thier fight against the terror being rained on them by the Jews.
As long as the Muslims in general and the Palestinians in particular are willing the war against Israel to continue they will continue having what they ask for. When the number of dead Arabs will satisfy those still alive they will ask for peace.
The Jews are the terrorists? Funny but I never hear of them blowing up a bus and targeting innocent civilians or flying planes into buildings or setting up boony traps.
There will be war as long as muslims hate jews more than they love their own children.
Really, Dean? You never hear of Israelis targeting civilians? Why don't you turn off FOX news and try reading a book for a change? You might learn something
Ash... Israelis are humans, they are not angels. This being said, however, I've never heard about Israeli GOVERNMENT ordering Israeli military to target civilians. Did you?
who told you that Mulims hate Jews, they don't hate Jews, Jews are the people of the book (Torah) that was sent from god to them. they only hate the terror state of Israel that kill innocent Palestinian kids and women and jail innocent young men, women, children and even pregnant women without conviction. Muslims know that there are Jews who are against what Israel does, Muslims respect those Jews.
Ramy: "who told you that Mulims hate Jews..."
The Prophet Mohammad himself. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!
Are you telling us the the prophet, prayer and peace be upon him was A LIAR?????
Here is the test of USA being a champion of Democracy. Clinton visit and recognition of the new elected setup are so far encouraging signs but President Mohammad MOrsi, sandwiched between the two military Generals clarify how the newly elected democratic setup will survive under US hanging swords.
The GREATEST danger to America and our ally Israel comes NOT merely from the Muslim Brotherhood and other radicals in the ME, but EVEN MORE SO from their covert proponents such as CNN's own Mr. Fareed Zakaria & CAIR right here in America.
Here are some of Morsi's acts and how they correspond to how Americans are being DELIBERATELY MISLED by his supporters right here in America:
a) First presidential DEMAND – Release of the 1993 WTC bomber the one-eyed Egyptian cleric Omar Abdel Rahman
b) First presidential Promise – Imposition of the Sharia in Egypt, which means relegating the Coptics & minorities to second class citizens and organized state sponsored oppression.
c) First presidential owe – To wage Jihad against Israel and as yet EXPLICITILY unstated....Jihad against America, and officially nullifying the Egypt-Israel peace treaty....which will follow very soon.
And, most of these acts conform to what our "so-called" moderate CNN's Mr. Fareed Zakaria has been prophesizing albeit in his sugarcoated writings for naive Americans.
Here are just a few examples of his statements:
a) Egypt-Israel peace treaty was between TWO REGIMES and NOT Two Peoples!! (Suggesting that Egypt abrogate the treaty). Ref: “How Democracy Can Work in the Middle East” Fareed Zakaria Time Feb 3rd 2011
b) “The Danger is from us (the US) and NOT from them (Al-Qaeda & Islamic radicals). Ref: Zakaria “Reflections on 9/11 and its Aftermath” CNN-GPS Sept 9th, 2011.
c) US support for Mubarak made Al-Qaeda hate us!!!! (Ref: “Bahrain will pay heavy price for crackdown” CNN Feb 18th 2011
d) The problems all over the ME was b'coz oil was over $105 a barrel (suggesting that the US & Europe had a role in stirring up trouble there). Ref: (Ref: “Could Middle East Tensions Boil Over” Zakaria CNN GPS Feb 24th 2012).
In the above story.
(d) Mr. Zakaria also takes the credit by being the VERY FIRST journalist of repute(?) to MISLEADINGLY claim that an US & Israeli attack on Iran will be seen as YET ANOTHER front of the US war on Islam, something NOT even radical Muslim countries have claimed. On the contrary, the Saudis have been urging US to attack Iran, by saying that we need to "chop the head of the snake".
There are a zillion other instances where Mr. Zakaria has been CONSISTENTLY batting for the Muslim Brotherhood & other radicals.
One can only imagine the danger to America if this man indeed is nominated as the next US Sec. of State in a second Obama administration as it is rumored to be!
Amit, you're just a lair. All what you mention is wrong and I have the proof, everyone listen to Morsi's first address and his address in Cairo uni, he emphasized on keeping all treaties with all countries including Israel. He said that he is the president of all Egyptians the Christians and Muslims, he even said in one interviews that he will allow Christians to build churches as they wish and he, as a president, will not interfere or control that (like Mubarak did before), because law manages everything even building the mosques. If you can not understand the speech, just let me know and I'll translate to you.
Start giving them the checks now.
We never stopped.
I see that Hilary Clinton has her two cents in these elections here in Egypt as everywhere else. The true goal here too is to make sure that the M.I.C. in Washington doesn't lose it's grip on Egypt. Egypt needs to take a more independent course and not take orders from the West as had been the case for the past 35 years!!!
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The USA needs a complete rethink of its position and role for itself and in the world. It should and cannot continue to think it can bring anything whatsoever (policing, liberty, democracy ,etc) to anyone. Those days are gone. Face up to it. It must adopt a pragmatic approach to maintaining its economic/trade and divert its money on strictly improving USA first. It must spend money educating its population and building its infrastructure and stop trying to help and or build nations where the people spit in our faces during and after the work. Stop spending money now in these filthy countries and concentrate on educating US citizens to reduce its own crime and overconsumption habits. Stop giving our money to hostile countries for oil; spend the money on USA R&D to become free of oil dependence. Stop being the sucker of the western world, blindly doing the dirty work of do-nothing countries like Canada, Switzerland, Monaco, Belgium, Qatar, etc. Do educate US citizens to not let the country be run by US corporations like Exxon, Chevron, Halliburton, Corporate farming Inc (fructose dependence building & hormone injecting greed mongers), etc. Stop stop stop. Think, think, think. Stop spending money now in these grimy countries and concentrate on educating US citizens to be able to vote for intelligent leadership in our own government. USA come to your senses; get smart; wise-up; you cannot save the world's governments but you can save, arm and protect yourself!
Well, if you applied your recommendation (think, think, think... ) to yourself first you would realize that running away from the enemy will not make the enemy disappear. To the contrary, it will bring the victorious enemy to your own backyard.
The US gov. military makes more enemies than it eliminates. Clinton is in Egypt for Israel, NOT for the Egyptian people or the US.
Tom Clark... Clinton is it Egypt for PEACE. This is what Israel and the US want. If the Egyptians want peace as well then Clinton is there for them, too.
Well put, just saying. Just ignore these warmongering idiots here like Thinker23 above!!!
Not just saying but very wise saying however totally against the interests of war mongers. Take care as you have challenged the real enemies of America.
George Patton... Did you disagree with something I've said? If so WHAT WAS IT?
Historically, whenever we tried this approach a world war would break out.
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I may not fully understand the consequence happened in this world,it is alittle bit complexed. but i tell what depicted in my mind. be very aware of those evil money-brokers , penetrating in every human brain. Eating up your young generation's future.
The sad truth is that your american holds the world champion of the most criminal Nation. Half you taxes used up to control the violence and homicide. It is , i believe due to your way of doing. it maks your life no quality.
so, i seriously believe the guy who can reduce your social violence and crimes , must be win the next presidential. because he encounters your backyard and gives you the most important thing that is a certain quality of life , an easy free and comfortable life, not that money and job opportunity can buy.
so i believe,if we put it into long huamn history evolution, to overthrow a government violently may gives you a short-term winnership, but it left behind a violent consequence of education. No body gets benifits.
so, what i think of Syria problem. if we just consider the poor living of Mr Assad , not just driving him mad and intenser, we give him some time to cooloff and think about. and be kind and nice to give him a chance to accuse and sue some of your faults, surely he may gently repay us sense and sensibility.
you are not that mean, i guess.
and you should listen to some of Mr Russia's sober advice too .to mantain the world balance.cause you are not perfect.
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