Civilian casualties plummet in Pakistan drone strikes
Civilian casualties from U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have dropped precipitously, observes CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen in a new posting on CNN's Opinion page.
According to data collected by Bergen and his colleages at the New America Foundation, the estimated civilian death rate in U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan has declined dramatically since 2008, when it was at its peak of almost 50%. Today, for the first time, the estimated civilian death rate is at or close to zero.
The data is generated by averaging the high and low casualty estimates of militant and civilian deaths published in a wide range of media outlets.
The drop in the number of civilian casualties since 2008 came as a result of several developments, one of which was a directive issued from the White House just days after President Obama took office, to tighten up the way the CIA selected targets and carried out strikes. Bergen also writes that CIA's use of smaller, more accurate munitions and improved drone capabilities have helped.
Pakistani officials now rarely base their criticism of U.S. drone strikes on the incidence of civilian casualties and instead point, quite reasonably, to another objection: the U.S. violation of Pakistan's national sovereignty, Bergen notes. The Obama administration maintains that international law does not prohibit the use of lethal force against an active enemy "when the country involved consents or is unable or unwilling to take action against the threat."
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If the Hindu man's wife dies, he is free to go and find another beautiful woman when he wants. But if the Hindu woman's husband dies, not only is she prohibited to remarry but she should be cremated along with her dead husband ("Sati"). Is this terrorism or what !!!! Shame on the hindu culture of violence and terror.
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On September 11, 2001, Indian/hindu extremist groups/terrorists were overjoyed. They happily danced on the streets and distributed free dessert to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Their goal is to kill US/NATO soldiers in Afghanistan.
India is playing a double game with Americans in Iran and Afghanistan. We are also aware of the other dirty games India is playing in the region...financing terrorists who are killing US/NATO/Pakistani troops ....undermining democracies, paying off some factions of talibans protection money so they won't do another Mumbai attack. India may pretend to drape itself in an American flag but it will never fool the world that the biggest threat to American interests in Asia and Middle East is India and their obsolete policies. We will wrap them in this flag and hand them over to the people in this picture for a Sandusky type hug.
To all Indians...."Ya'll, Now git back in line before I kick you so hard you'll be wearin your @ss for a hat."
The Chinese have developed an antidote to the "Stink Bomb"threats from hindus. Billions of american skunks on steroids that will be let loose in India to neutralize the stench.Though we are not sure it will be strong enough.
Won't help.Smell is in our DNA...literally speaking.
Try using chlorox on extended spin and auto soak cycle....if nothing else we could use some bleaching..... ROFL !!!!!
The most important aspect of all this is that its so called allies have kicked India to the curb after using it to do the clean up work in the region. US/NATO is pulling out and taking alongwith it all the american taxpayers money and the business causing ripples in India that will shake its core. I will be very surprised if India survives 2012 as a nation. The collapse is imminent, folks, read my lips...you read it here on this forum.
On September 11, 2001, Pakistani, Palestinian, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They happily danced on the streets and distributed free dessert to celebrate the death of thousands of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
India is playing a double game with Americans in Iran and Afghanistan. We are also aware of the other dirty games India is playing in the region...financing terrorists who are killing US/NATO/Pakistani troops ....undermining democracies, paying off some factions of talibans protection money so they won't do another Mumbai attack. India may pretend to drape itself in an American flag but it will never fool the world that the biggest threat to American interests in Asia and Middle East is India and their obsolete policies. We will wrap them in this flag and hand them over to the people in this picture.
In India, millions of girls are strangled, slowly starved or simply tossed in the trash. Moreover, in India, at least 1,370 girls are aborted every day. As a comparison, some 250 Indians die every day in road accidents. Terrorists killed about six people, on an average, every day in 2009. In the last two decades of economic progress, 10 million girls have died as such in India.
SHAME ON INDIA AND ITS BARBARIC AND MEDIEVAL CULTURE !!!
Indians have killed more human beings (girls particularly) than Al Qaeda and Talibans put together.
On September 11, 2001, Pakistani, Palestinian, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They happily danced on the streets and distributed free dessert to celebrate the death of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
That is a great post krm1007. You have finally begun to stop sympathizing with the Pakistani terrorists. That is truly an excellent first step. Now, I am waiting for you to completely renounce the Pakistani acts of burning the US flag, hiding bin Laden and sponsoring terrorists.
Thank you Patriot. Excellent post.
Can you please stop chewing that herb called khat which is so popular among all you arabs? It can mess up your mind.
Thank you Patriot for your advice. That is a very good advice. I will try to follow it.
Patriot gave very good advice to krm1007. I really enjoy reading your intelligent conversation among Pakistani arabs.
HINDU KALI – GODDESS OF TERRORISM
A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India. Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune. Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India. Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations. The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.
Drone this sicko
She is the mother of all terrorism. Have Obama take care of her. Maybe Hillary can visit her on way back and take her to the woodshed.
The number you mentioned is not right. There might have been one or two of these incidents in a couple of years but not anything near the number you mentioned. And Don't insult the goddess. You Americans also have caused violence in the name of religion.
krm1007, Wow!! You have finally begun to stop sympathizing with the Pakistani terrorists. That is truly an excellent first step. Now, I am waiting for you to completely renounce the Pakistani acts of burning the US flag, hiding bin Laden and sponsoring terrorists.
Thanks for an excellent post. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
On September 11, 2001, Pakistani, Palestinian, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They happily danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to celebrate the death of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
All hands on deck, Pakistan.
The world is lovely, bright and deep,
But we have promises to keep,
And miles to go before we sleep
And miles to go before we sleep.
God Speed, Partner:::
"IN GOD WE TRUST"
On September 11, 2001, Pakistani, Palestinian, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to celebrate the death of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
krm1007 – wow!! You have finally begun to stop sympathizing with the Pakistani terrorists. That is an excellent first step. Now, I am waiting for you to completely renounce the Pakistani acts of burning the US flag, hiding bin Laden and sponsoring terrorists. Can you please apologize to the US and clean up your act? Please repent and reform if you want to be saved.
Thanks Patriot. It is difficult to admit but I think my previous posts were truly disgusting because my thinking was not straight - I chew a lot of herb called khat.
Attributed to @ krm1007 © ™"
"Pakistan now needs to protect itself from the economic implosion/bubble burst in India. It is over folks, in India. Unemployment is record high, inflation is out of control, rupee has collapsed, budget deficit has widened,, multinationals such as Delta Airlines, Dell Computers, GE and Microsoft are already shifting their call centers to Canada, FDI has almost halted. Nobody wants to do business there anymore as terrorism is shifting there in months to come and the country/politics are too big/corrupt/decentralized to be conducive to do business. Pakistan needs to close its borders along India as Indians will soon be crossing over for food. You will now see Indian government trying to get friendly, solving the Kashmir issue and the cricket team wanting to play again."
How true !!!! It is a pleasure to read his comments.
@krm1007's comments are indeed intuitive and very well presented. Thanks for sharing with us and keeping us ahead of the curve.
An absolute pleasure @ krm1007 © ™. Definitely an A+ and a privilege to read.
A gem is how i would describe @ krm1007. Salute'
What do these two have in common???? Young boys. Shame on these pedophiles
BODDA BING BODDA BOOM
We are Hindus from India,
And we like to put on the Bindiya,
We are mostly Haris,
But we like to put on the Saris,
Sadly, we are nothing but Bhikaris,
Sadly, we are nothing but Bhikaris,
We take the Americans to Heart,
But get nothing in return except a F@rt,
So we tend to kiss the American @ss,
Again, we get nothing in return except the American gas,
We are nothing but Bhikaris and are Indians No Mas.
On September 11, 2001, Pakistanis, Palestinians, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to celebrate the death of innocent Americans civilians. They were truly elated. These people are anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
krm1007 – wow!! You have begun to stop sympathizing with the Pakistani terrorists. That is a wonderful first step. Now, I am waiting for you to completely renounce the Pakistani acts of burning the US flag, hiding bin Laden and sponsoring terrorists.
HINDU KALI-GODDESS OF VIOLENCE/TERRORISM
A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India. Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune. Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India. Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations. The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.
What a b$tch
Is she married? Scary at night i suppose under the sheets.
Tons of D O O Z I E S on this forum with false IDs but one read thru which ones are trash. I apologize on behalf of all hindus for the nonsensical postings. Makes us look bad.
On September 11, 2001, Pakistanis, Palestinians, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to celebrate the death of innocent Americans. They were truly elated. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
Joseph – I agree with you. You are absolutely right. Americans generously donated $21 billion to Pakistan. Then, the Americans gave millions for earthquake relief in Pakistan. Again the US magnanimously gave millions to Pakistanis for flood relief. As a goodwill gesture for the American generosity, Pakistanis reciprocated by shooting at American troops and burning the US flag.
Joseph and krm1007 - You both are right. I totally agree with you. President Obama is fighting these terrorists with one hand tied behind his back. It's time to do the right thing by taking care of this menace quickly and effectively and without worrying about political correctness.
Joseph, krm1007, and Patriot: I couldn't possibly agree more with all of you – You are so right this time. Seems like you have repented and reformed yourselves. Looks like you have changed your mind for the better compared to your previous disgusting posts. The transformation is refreshing and certainly welcome. It shows that even Islamists may have a chance to redeem themselves if they give up terrorism. It's inspiring in a way that while it is so hard for an Islamist to give up terrorism but you all are at least trying.
krm1007, Sajjad, Joseph and Patriot - It is good to know that you are repenting and slowly began to give up terrorist ideology. Islamists are so addicted to terrorism that they may need a nicotine patch to give up terrorism. But do not give up – keep trying.
India must cease financing the terrorists and address the Kashmir genocide issue (among others such as Tamils, Maoists etc.) in order for peace to prevail in south Asia. It appears to me that Pakistan considers India as an insignificant player in the region (except for nuisance value) and has gotten away from the south Asian model. It is poised, per my model @ 15% clip – GDP growth – when all cylinders start firing next 12 months. What differentiates Pakistanis from India is that Pakistanis think BIG and have BIG hearts. Pettiness is not in their DNA.
Together we shall prevail, as we have done in the past while overcoming insurmountable odds. After all, the Americans and Pakistanis share common values and history in the struggle for their Independence and their fight for survival.
God Speed. "In God We Trust".
On 9/11/2001, Pakistanis, Palestinians, and Kashmiri terrorists celebrated. They danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to everyone as a part of their celebration. They were truly elated. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
I agree with you krm1007. You are spot on. Americans gave $21 billion in donations to Pakistan. Then, the Americans gave millions for earthquake relief in Pakistan. Again the US generously gave millions to Pakistanis for flood relief. As a goodwill gesture for the American generosity, Pakistanis shoot at American troops and burn the US flag.
krm1007 and Patriot, You both are so right. I agree with you too completely. President Obama is fighting these terrorists with one hand tied behind his back. It's time to do the right thing by taking care of this menace quickly and effectively and without worrying about political correctness.
krm1007, Patriot and Sajjad: I couldn't possibly agree more with all of you - You are so right this time. Seems like you have repented and reformed yourselves. Looks like you have changed your mind for the better compared to your previous posts. The transformation is refreshing and certainly welcome. It shows that even Islamists may have a chance to redeem themselves if they give up terrorism.
@ krm1007 © ™ We salute you for your contributions to this world of comment forum. We are blessed, Sir.
Folks, I would like to take this opportunity of reprinting a comment from our esteemed colleague @krm1007 © ™ from way back. The purpose being to compliment him for his astuteness and far sightedness. Another prediction of his has come true today and I want to compliment him for his penmanship. Please keep us indulged. What I am specifically referring to is that today India has offered to organize a cricket series with Pakistan after a lapse of 5 years. Says a lot doesn't it? Next on the list to be solved soon is the Kashmir issue per @ krm1007 © ™. You read it here today !!!!
"Pakistan now needs to protect itself from the economic implosion/bubble burst in India. It is over folks, in India. Unemployment is record high, inflation is out of control, rupee has collapsed, budget deficit has widened,, multinationals such as Delta Airlines, Dell Computers, GE and Microsoft are already shifting their call centers to Canada, FDI has almost halted. Nobody wants to do business there anymore as terrorism is shifting there in months to come and the country/politics are too big/corrupt/decentralized to be conducive to do business. Pakistan needs to close its borders along India as Indians will soon be crossing over for food. You will now see Indian government trying to get friendly, solving the Kashmir issue and the cricket team wanting to play again."
I remember the posting. Great vision by krm1007. His comments are very insightful inspite of hindus stealing his ID once in a while.
I am taking time during lunch to thank krm1007 for his brilliance.
Thank you for your passion and positive thinking. Keep on writing
Many accolades to @ krm1007 © ™ !!!!!
Kudos to @ krm1007 © ™. We need more like him to impart sanity to these forums.
thanks much partner @ krm1007 © ™
@ krm1007 © ™ I must congratulate you for the civility in your comments and the belief that you put into them. It hits the bulls eye !!!!
from gujarat ....pls accept my respects @ krm1007
Mucho garcias, amigo @ krm1007 © ™ !!!! Bravo
Atta boy @ krm1007 © ™ . Keep it up ma man.
Keep on dazzling us with your analysis krm1007. Peace, man.
Right on bro krm1007. Love your gutsy comments.
May the winds of kalahari be on your back ...safari man krm
Write on, chap @ krm1007 © ™
The bottom line is that drones is just a hogwash. US is trying to find a face saving and dignified exit from Afghanistan. They have failed in their mission even with using India to do their dirty work there. The northern alliance Afghans have also not been that effective. At the end of the day the Afghans will need to deal with Pakistan and this time around the Pakistanis may not be so gracious. Now let's talk accounting.
Since Sep 11, 2001, over 200,000 Pakistani civilians, armed forces personnel have either sacrificed their lives or wounded; more than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over
US $ 1 Trillion due to terrorism.
Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.
No other country has even come close to selflessly sacrificing so much.
Pakistan, no one can ever repay you enough for your contributions.
You deserve a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for your contributions to world peace and emergence of a new world order.
So payback time for Pakistan for their large heartedness.
It is so sad that India has been marginalised. It is in downward spiral and may not survive.
We take care of India good. Now cut its head off.
President Obama, you are fighting these terrorists with one hand tied behind your back. It's time to do the right thing by taking care of this menace quickly and effectively.
Yes, pull out quick from Afghanistan before you lose further global respect and elections as well. India is leading you on wrong path.
On 9/11/2001, Pakistanis, Palestinians, and Kashmiri terrorists were overjoyed. They danced on the streets and gave out free dessert to everyone as a part of their celebration. They were truly elated. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of these terrorists. However, political correctness prevents Obama from using the drones more effectively. While Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
Have the Talibans called us yet saying when they are visiting India next? Lets get some sweets ready for them this time to welcome them.
Americans gave $21 billion in donations to Pakistan. Then, the Americans gave millions for earthquake relief in Pakistan. Again the US generously gave millions to Pakistanis for flood relief. As a goodwill gesture for the American generosity, Pakistanis shoot at American troops and burn the US flag.
No tickee No laundry. Pay up. No Mo Free Beef Lo Mein !!!!
These are election times in USA. Obama is using this as leverage to prop up his ratings. He does not care about human lives at this point.
One time Prez.
I would just point the nukes towards India and Afghanistan and pull the trigger. Enough of this BS. The talking is over ...time to BBQ a la Provencale'.
INDIA: On a Goat and a Stick:
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. You can only take it so far based on symbolisms of a goat and a stick with a skinny little man aka gandhi banging boys at night and spinning wheels during daytime.
Couldn't have said it better. Jerry Sandusky comes to mind when I think of Gandhi
Otherwise, I am afraid, extremism will continue to fester in that region and continue to become a threat for the western nations. We have been fighting a war for the past ten years with no end. Our soldiers have shed blood to no end. Their families are suffering. Has even one Indian soldier sacrificed his life in helping the Americans, NATO and western countries in fighting this war? The answer is a resolute NO. Folks, just think about it, 1.2 million Indian Army soldiers are sitting in trenches doing what???? Sure the heck beats me.
Agreed
So the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge
Of course, we can carve out a hindu nation along the a portion of the western coast where they can continue to practice their medieval culture and hopefully come into the folds of the modern world within the next century.
Pakistan has tremendous potential and everyone knows it except the Pakistanis. A new layer of leadership has to emerge in all avenues to move this country forward. They don’t have to be rocket scientists… just nationalists. Pakistan has the capability of spinning on a dime.
The US gave $21 billion in donations to Pakistan. Moreover, the Americans gave millions for earthquake relief in Pakistan. Furthermore, the US generously gave millions to Pakistanis for flood relief. In return, Pakistanis shoot at American troops and burn the US flag.
On 9/11, Palestinians, Pakistanis and Kashmiri terrorists were dancing on the streets and giving out free dessert. They were elated. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of them. However, political correctness prevents Obama to do so. Obama's goal is to minimize civilian casualties in drone strikes, whereas the Pakistani terrorists' goal is to maximize civilian casualties.
Does anyone know of Talibans next ETA in India?
Certainly, RAW would not know.
Thanks for your remarks thgouh.The client-timeout errors are caused by the timeout (60seconds in your case) set on the httperf command line. You can make most of these go away by increasing the timeout, but it is interesting to see the difference between all the frameworks. I am not really sure what causes the connection reset errors.I am still planning to post an update to this benchmark, but i will need some extra machines for that.ps, I am curious how the maximum / optimum request rates of both machines differ.
NEW YORK: Renowned Indian activist and novelist Arundhati Roy has decried the silence of the international community over the continued “brutal Indian occupation of Kashmir” and said Kashmiris should be given the right to self-determination……
She said so little was known about the atrocities being committed by more than half a million Indian troops, the continuing repression and indignities let loose on Kashmiri men, women and children.
More than 700,000 troops were concentrated in the tiny valley, with checkpoints at every nook and corner of Kashmiri towns and cities. The huge Indian presence, she added, was in sharp contrast with 160,000 US troops in Iraq.
Ms Roy alleged that Indian army or security personnel were killing young children and women.
On 9/11, Palestinians, Pakistanis and Kashmiri terrorists were dancing on the streets and giving out free dessert. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of them. However, political correctness prevents Obama to do so.
They were celebrating holi....a hindu celebatory festival. Yes, correct, hindus are anti social and racist.
BTW are you scared or ashamed to comment using your own ID rather than stealing some one others? I know you love krm1007 but the comments you post are dialetically opposed to his thoughts. I have been following krm1007"s comments for years and respect his views. You are no krm1007.
Sadly Gandhi
Among the various charges disclosed in the book: Gandhi not only slept in beds with young women under the age of 18, but also engaged in a long-term, gay affair with German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder Hermann Kallenbach, for whom India's peace icon at one point left his wife in 1908. As the Wall Street Journal reports:
The bottom line is that the only way to have peace in Afghanistan and lessen regional tension is split India into pieces. It has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India. Its demise is in process and should be completed with Afghanistan withdrawal.
Every time I see this spambot it takes me a beat longer than it should to actually understand the URL. This time I was like: “A gel o v e r? What does that mean?” until my brain properly processed it as Age-lover.
Still not checking it out, though.
Osama bin Laden had a filthy beard, wore a turban, and hated America. Now look at the average Pakistani Joe burning the US flag in the picture.
Sounds like Manmohan Singh !!! Mwaah ha ha. My apologies for hijacking this ID but I am an Indian hindu and backstabbing and stealing is in my DNA. They call us D O O Z I E S.
While the US is busy making sure that the civilian casualties are minimized, Pakistani terrorists are plotting to maximize the civilian casualties.
I agree that it is wrong to burn the donor country's flag. The US donated more than $20 billion in US aid. Then also gave millions when there were floods in Pakistan. The US gave more money when an earthquake hit Pakistan. Instead of thanking the US, Pakistanis are burning the US flag.
I am a D O O Z I E and i am also known as an Indian Hindu. I love to steal other people IDs.I am also known as Rick, Greg, Denny B, Kishore, DR, GR8 etc. I am scared to have my own ID as I am an Indian imigrant in USA and am scared FBI will come looking for me.
Pakistan should offer an apology for burning the US flag while not even bothering to shave an unkempt beard.
Let's cut manmohan Singh's beard and shave his head off. What say you?
What do these two have in common???? Terrorizing boys !!!! Shame. Let us bring their memories down and their legacies trashed. Let us knock their statues down and their thoughts erased.
Indian Government a few days ago closed down an auction that was to have put evidence of Gandhi's crimes up for sale. They bought the entire presentation for a few million dollars to keep the proof of crimes out of public scruting. Interpol and CIA please take note.
WOW. Gandhi a pedophile. WOW !!!
Blessed be the sacred Land
Happy be the bounteous realm
Symbol of high resolve
Land of Pakistan
Blessed be thou citadel of faith
The order of this sacred land
Is the might of the brotherhood of the People
May the nation, the country, and the state
Shine in glory everlasting
Blessed be the goal of our ambition
This Flag of the Crescent and Star
Leads the way to progress and perfection
Interpreter of our past, glory of our present
Inspiration of our future
Symbol of Almighty's protection
beautiful rendition. i wish we hindus had such a beautiful national anthem
Across all religions and cultures that believe in the unity of god, like muslims and christians, it is a basic tenet of human decency that human lives are valued and apologies are offered to the aggrieved by those responsible for the deaths. If nothing more, the words of apology are soothing to the families of those who died. In this case, Pakistan's contention is that Indian Government is financing the terrorists and some segments of Talibans specializing in suicide bombing. These terrorists are in turn massacring the civilians in Pakistan and Afghanistan and the US/NATO forces. US Treasury and CIA alongwith Pakistan Intelligence are following the cash trail left behind by the Indians using cricket gambling as one of the means alongwith the remnant Indian emigres' in East Africa and South America. The hunt is on.
Let us focus on the causes of terrorism and try to fix the issues. They have been hanging out there for over 60 years ...Palestine..Kashmir. Let us focus on the victims of 9/11 and help the families more than we have done. Let us take care of their kids and put them through college. Let us take care of their wives/husbands/parents. Let us take care of over 200,000+ families whose dear ones gave their lives in Pakistan fighting this terror war. Let us focus on the victims in Afghanistan. They are so many.
On 9/11, Palestinians, Pakistanis and Kashmiri terrorists were dancing on the streets and giving out free dessert. These people are anti American, anti-Western, anti-human terrorists. Drones are designed to take care of them. However, political correctness prevents Obama to do so.
krm1007, Mikey, General Patton, Tunda Tirranand - Let me also join you in agreeing that Pakistan has sacrificed so much including honesty, integrity, self worth and pride for a two reasons: (a) fistful of dollars, and (b) because Allah told them to protect their terrorist brothers. We agree with each other so much. We think nobody would be able to tell us apart. Would they?
D O O Z I E S are back from the sugar plantations in Barbados trolling again. LMAO !!!!
LOL....!/3 of indians have diabetes, the other third venereal disease and the remainder is HIV *ve per CNN latest news release !!! That should scare the talibans away ???!!! Ruse ???
Mikey, krm1007 and Danny B - I agree with you again. It's like agreeing with myself. I always like agreeing with myself because nobody else ever would. I completely agree that Pakistan has been sacrificing so much to protect terrorists. Taking bullets on the chest, missiles on the a$$ and we do it with a smile on our face. Can any other country ever do that?
Yes, Indians took several bullets in their @ss when the taliban kids took over the country. They are still looking for fragments. Americans have offered to do a proctology.
Of course, we would prefer Talibans to do it to us rather than the americans...in fact we insist !!!
Civilian deaths have been minimal in drone strikes. Pakistanis have been lying about those with inflated numbers. However, given the low literacy in Pakistan, their people can't tell the difference between truth and their government's propaganda.
D O O Z I E S on the troll this morning. FYI this is a buzzword for hindus, hinduzzz, coined by our fellow contributor on this forum @ krm1007 © ™ who I am giving credit to. LOL !!
BTW these folks are found in India mostly working on sugar plantations.
Just goes to show that democracy and freedom of speech and expression is alive and well in Pakistan. Pakistan needs to step up to forefront and become a role model for the region. A very progessive state.
The only way Pakistan will become a truly progressive state Denny B,will be when the leaders there stop listening to Hilary Clinton Almighty and pandering to the right-wing thugs in Washington and sue the local Taliban for peace!
WE SALUTE YOU, PAKISTAN......The Americans acknowledge the innumerable sacrifices made by Pakistanis in this ongoing war. The Americans appreciate the bullets taken on the chest by the Pakistanis in fighting the enemy. The Americans appreciate the ultimate sacrifices made by Pakistanis in sacrificing their lives while trying to make America and the world safe
Yes. That is so true. A lot of Pakistanis took American bullets on their chest while defending bin Laden and numerous other terrorists. Not only bullets, Pakistanis also took missiles fired by the drones on their a$$es while defending their Islamic terrorists. For some reason, the West does not appreciate for all that sacrifice by the Pakistani people.
Mikey Kalish and krm1007 you are both so right. Bullet on the chest... Missile on the a$$... All in the name of Allah to defend so many terrorists. And the West does not even appreciate that we do so much for the terrorists. That makes Pakistanis so unappreciated and depressed.
Muslims are mad at USA again. Tell me something new. Stop aid to these Pakistani terrorists.
Is this what the US gives out all that aid money to Pakistan? To burn the US flag and hide bin Laden?
These are historic days ! It was a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable us American and NATO friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their national resources and standing with us shoulder to shoulder. We are partners and we share a unified vision in addressing the challenges facing the world.
The words of apology from United States and reciprocated by Pakistan are soothing to the families of those who died. For that Pakistan is thankful. It shows much maturity on part of Americans and Pakistanis alike. Let us move forward together in tackling the problems facing the world today, in particular terrorism and poverty, that are close to the hearts of both peoples.
Together we shall prevail, as we have done in the past while overcoming insurmountable odds. After all, the Americans and Pakistanis share common values and history in the struggle for their Independence and their fight for survival.
God Speed. "In God We Trust".
krm1007 I agree that the US offered an apology which is a nice gesture. As you said, Pakistan should have offered a sincere apology for hiding bin Laden and stabbing America in the back. However, all Pakistan has offered so far is excuses. It is about time Pakistan apologizes. You see I am agreeing with you. We are so alike (in fact we are the same) because nobody else would agree with us in spite of repeating the same message ad nauseam.
I wonder what USA is going to do to India (Drone?) when they find out RAW has been financing Talibans attacking US Soldiers in Afghanistan? Hope they don't stop the aid coming to us. Hare Rama
The drone program has been very considerate to avoid civilian casualties. That is very nice but these flag burning people living on US welfare do not deserve such consideration.
hope the nuclear plant explosion in Ludhiana did not cause too many casualities.
wonder if kali is a L#sbian
Ask Hillary or the gandhi chic
Hey isn't this the flag of Rajasthan?
These guys look ferocious. No surprise they came and kicked our @sses in Bombay.
They were all riled up when some trash called qran was burned accidentally. But they never have any problem burning the US flag everyday.
These people will always burn the US flag in the name of Alah.
Wonder how the Taliban's frequent visitor program to India is working out.
Funnee ! LOL !!
The American drone program is doing its best to minimize civilian deaths. Pakistan sponsored terrorist program is doing its best to maximize civilian deaths.
Look at the guy burning the flag. Look at his beard. Tell me if he is a terrorist or not. It's a mistake the drones didn't get him.
Huh ??? Are you considering him as your son in law?
Killed some terrorists. Spared the civilians. Now those civilians burn our flag.
Pakistan needs to learn from the debacle of its eastern neighbor and pursue policies that are independent from American influence. Pakistan must take a stand in restoring dignity of this region so compromised by this neighbor India. As you will recall, India's economic and political bubble burst after years of synthetic propping up by USA to serve its interests in Afghanistan. Now that Americans are pulling out of the region, the money has dried up and alongwith it the dreams of the Indians who were falsely led by Americans to believe in the mirage that never was. I term it as the greatest con job of all times.
GOD BLESS PAKISTAN,
Land that we love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From Kashmir to Karachi and onto New Delhi,
And to the oceans, white with foam
GOD BLESS PAKISTAN, Our home sweet home.
Without a doubt Pakistan needs to move away from American sphere of influence. Not many countries/friends/allies have benefited from American friendship. Certainly, not Pakistan. As Yogi Berra said, "When You Reach a Crossroad, Take It " !!! This is your opportunity to walk away from American grip. It will mean a lot of sacrifices short term but will be worth it in the long run. DO IT !!
I'm buying an Afghani, Pakistani, and Iraniam flag tomorrow and burning them and then posting the pyro party on Youtube.
OK soooo? In fact buy a few of them. And while doing so, grab a few Indian flags also to use as diapers.
It is quite obvious that UN, NATO, Eurozone have all played their roles but have become redundant in current times. We need to think out of the box. A global democratic body embodies our political aspirations. We can't go back to the old paradigm that gave us several world wars. Present setup is more of a dictatorship with General America leading the charge. We need to consolidate and then decentralize under democratic principles.
True but one can't condone killing of innocent civilians meantime. US is using Indians to finance and train Afghan Talibans in terror camps in Afghanistan and then cross over to Pakistan either to murder innocent civilians or spy.
Great idea. After all we are all about democracy..aren't we.
It is clear that the drones are not killing civilians. So, why are these people burning the US flag?
To burn the pyre for cremating dead. Hindu custom I suppose. Starter wood is expensive.
Wonder where these birds were when Talibans took over Mumbai. We Paan Partiers could have used them.
Iran took them down. LOL !!!
Drones are the weapons of choice for the faint of the heart. Those who are afraid of hand to hand combat...looking the enemy in the eye and fighting them. The fittest survives.
LOL....Americans are scared of coming face to face with the talibans.
It is good to know that Prez Obama has been right all along – the civilian casualties during drone strikes have been minimal under his watch. Effectiveness of the drone strikes is very high. Collateral damage is minimal. Cost is low. Psychological impact on terrorists is priceless. Drones are awesome!!
Well, in that case shall we send one crawling up your @ss, my hinduzzie?
this craphole needs a good nuclear bombing with a bunch of american liberal pussballs to go with it.
Thank you, lance. It feels so good to see someone here like you who thinks the same way I do! We ignorant Tea Partiers really should stick together, don't you think?
Come to Papi my chummuk chalo.
Have some chai....moi tea partier makaka
How stupid does the right-wing news media think we are? It will say anything to prop up support for this useless and brutal war! Unfortunately, I expect a lot of gullible fools here to fall for it as usual!!!
Besides emerging as a regional power, the time has come for Pakistan to take the leadership role in the Islamic World and lead them to the path of progress, prosperity and glory. The only nuclear nation in the Islamic World, Pakistan has shown the world that it can stand up to the nuances of world politics on principles and partake in global affairs. Also, that it can equally contribute to the progress of this planet called Earth. The sacrifices of the Pakistani nation in making this world safe are unmatched and deserves a seat at the table of the permanent members of The UN Security Council.
First of all RAW, Pakistan needs to quit pandering to the right-wing thugs in Washington and make a separate peace with the local Taliban and then stand up to the West!
Houston, we have a hinduzzie here !
US/NATO need to understand that this is not cowardly and meek India they are dealing with.....this is Pakistan they are messing with. DON'T MESS WITH PAKISTAN..
PAKISTAN !!!!
THANK YOU …. THANK YOU…. THANK YOU!!!!
FOR MAKING USA SAFE FOR MAKING THE WORLD SAFE>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since Sep 11, 2001, over 200,000 Pakistani civilians, armed forces personnel have either sacrificed their lives or wounded; more than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over
US $ 1 Trillion due to terrorism.
Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.
No other country has even come close to selflessly sacrificing so much.
Pakistan, no one can ever repay you enough for your contributions.
You deserve a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for your contributions to world peace and emergence of a new world order. We welcome your rise as the new regional military power. God Speed.
@JJ Vargas Good thing about Islamist like you is that you like to recycle. I have seen this message recycled before. However your need to recycle is not driven by the love for environment, it is rather driven by your lack is imagination, creativity and understanding of what is going on around you.
Pakis are our dogs, and a dogs brain is a brain of a three years old so they don't remember as much as we do.
I am glad you reread the message and understood it. It takes some people with fickle minds to read the message more than once to get it. That was the purpose of this posting. We will contimue to indulge your demographics. Aloha
Thank you !!
Across all religions and cultures it is a basic tenet of human decency that human lives are valued and apologies are offered to the aggrieved by those responsible for the deaths. If nothing more, the words of apology are soothing to the families of those who died.
There are no civilians in Pakistan.
The picture caption states "A man burns the U.S. flag...". Look at the flag. It is not the American flag – it generally similar, but the stripes are wrong, the stars are wrong... Can the media please grow a backbone and state the real news? The proper caption should be along the lines of "Filthy, unemployed, slum dwellers dressed in their bed sheets can't even get their nemesis' flag correct".
New, More Dangerous Hindu Extremist Groups Emerge in India
Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.
Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.
Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities.
muslim dog !
Hindus need to cease and desist massacring the Christians and our Muslim brethren immediately. In the the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.