Enemy to U.S. troops but not on the terror list
By Jamie Crawford
Responsible for the deaths of American and NATO troops, and multiple attacks on embassies and other infrastructure in Afghanistan, the Haqqani network would seem to fit the bill as a foreign terrorist organization.
For some, that designation is a long overdue.
"Republicans and Democrats in both houses of Congress agree that the Haqqani Network is a violent terrorist organization and grave threat to our security," Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Michigan said in a statement last month when he introduced a bill that would call on the Obama administration to designate the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO).
"The Haqqanis are responsible for killing hundreds of our troops, and their indiscriminate attacks have also murdered countless innocent Afghan men, women, and children."
Separately, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, and Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Georgia, have introduced a bill in the Senate calling on the administration to designate the group a terrorist organization.
From their base in Pakistan's Waziristan province, the al Qaeda-linked militant group has drawn the ire of the United States government with members of its top leadership already being designated as terrorists - which freezes any personal assets of theirs held in U.S. banks.
And last September, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said U.S. officials were "in the final formal review" for designating the entire Haqqani network as a terrorist organization. So what is taking so long?
In a word: Pakistan.
"If you designate the Haqqani network an FTO, then there would be significant pressure placed on the United States and the international community to designate Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism," Rick "Ozzie" Nelson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies told Security Clearance. "It would be hard to avoid going down that road."
The group's presence inside Pakistan has become a major sticking point in an already badly strained U.S.-Pakistan relationship. In an interview with CNN last year, former Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen said that elements in Pakistan's spy service are "very active" with the Haqqani network, launching attacks on U.S. forces in Afghanistan. Mullen told Congress the terror group was a "virtual arm" of the spy agency. Pakistan has denied that is the case but the Pentagon says Pakistan has not done enough to stop the violence.
"The Haqqanis need to be dealt with," said Pentagon spokesman George Little on Tuesday. "We are bringing a great deal of pressure to bear on the Haqqanis, and we believe that on the Pakistani side of the border, that additional action needs to be taken by the Pakistanis to root out this network of militants that is a menace to Afghanistan and to Pakistan."
From a practical standpoint, analysts who follow the situation say naming the entire group an FTO would certainly put pressure on Pakistan to stop supporting the group so as to avoid being labeled a state sponsor of terror, and being cut off from the United States and international community.
But at a time when Pakistani involvement is needed to help stabilize the situation in Afghanistan as U.S. and NATO troops prepare to end combat operations in 2014, threatening Pakistan with such action could prove contrary to a variety of U.S. strategic goals.
"When you are isolating a country that is as unstable as Pakistan is but has arguably the fastest growing nuclear stockpile in the world, you really run the risk of potentially having a rogue state on your hands, Nelson said.
For Pakistan, their support for the group serves a hedge in a game being played out in Afghanistan against its arch-rival India.
"The Pakistanis are willing to do literally anything at the risk of rupturing the U.S. relationship to secure its ability to limit Indian presence in Afghanistan long after we are gone," said Christine Fair, a former United Nations official in Afghanistan, now with the Georgetown School of Foreign Service. "In some measure that's what Pakistan's support for the Taliban is about, and of course the Haqqani network falls into that rubric."
In the past, the Obama administration had resisted listing the entire group out of concern that it would drive the Haqqanis away from a possible peace deal in Afghanistan. The group, with its links to other Taliban entities, was considered integral to the political reconciliation the U.S. was seeking, two senior U.S. officials told CNN last year.
But with reconciliation talks between the United States and elements of the Taliban stalled, many officials question the wisdom of talking with the Haqqanis.
"You cannot negotiate with terrorists, and in my view that's exactly what the Haqqani Network is," Feinstein said in a written statement announcing the legislation she co-sponsored. "I have urged the State Department to designate Haqqani as an FTO for more than two years. Meanwhile, the organization continues to kill Americans in Afghanistan and launch brazen and indiscriminate attacks against innocent men, women and children in the region."
And for analysts like Christine Fair, the question also extends to Pakistan over whether the Haqqani network offers anything really constructive to their interests.
"I don't understand what the value proposition is that the Haqqani network gives the Pakistanis given that increasingly the group is a problem for them as well," vis a vis the relationship with the United States she said. "But the Pakistanis continue to support the entire network at all costs its seems."
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Terror is fueled by belief whether religiously or politically motivated it isn't right from any government or organization and pointing fingers is just as bad when their is evidence of both sides being part of the issue and not correcting it is even more dangerous.
I have the same experience with you. how could it happen? cheapipromdresses
The real enemy of America and many other countries is Israel.
Oh lord, they think we can keep up with everyone that want's to kill us? The top is lonely for a reason, we'll shoot them anyway, why do we need a "list". There are so many groups like this around the world, you can't send american troops into most countries in the world without getting them shot at, and shooting some people. To the point I should just name the countries our troops would be safe in. Why not just break it down to "good guy, don't shoot" and "guy shooting at me, shoot him". We don't just shoot people for no reason, there's a reason they're a target if it's the United States. US soldiers already don't engage unless someone engages them, do we really need to break down who's trying to shoot and blow us up by group, or just lay waste to the ones we catch, cause that's the end result no matter what. "Taliban" has become a name for terrorists in general, It's been stated that the Taliban is essentially defunct and rudderless, it's really easy to just call all the bad guys one name though. Saves a lot of paperwork, and the result is the same.
I don't know where you have been but the Taliban are actually stronger today in Afghanistan. We are actually paying some Taliban tribes not to attack our supply convoys. Imagine that.
DEMISE OF INDIA: The aftermath of Afghanistan invasion
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India.
Time has come for India to put its commie skin back on. Democracy has failed. Capitalism has collapsed. One can understand the psyche of Indians by surfing these forums and by quality of comments posted by them. Nothing but abuses and anti Pakistan rants. They like in the shadows of their neighbors.
Good Luck. Tough reengineering a skunk. It is what it is unless Marketing 101 says otherwise. Surely, can't get rid of the stench.
Good Luck to many of our Pakistani friends here with fake names!
Same to you. God Speed. See you around. No plagiarism, please, next time around. Need to give credit to people you intellectually steal from. Hey, care to give us your real name/s big man?
This appears to be an Indian
Pakistan now needs to protect itself from the economic implosion/bubble burst in India. It is over folks, in India. Unemployment is record high, inflation is out of control, rupee has collapsed, budget deficit has widened,, multinationals such as Delta Airlines, Dell Computers, GE and Microsoft are already shifting their call centers to Canada, FDI has almost halted. Nobody wants to do business there anymore as terrorism is shifting there in months to come and the country/politics are too big/corrupt/decentralized to be conducive to do business. Pakistan needs to close its borders along India as Indians will soon be crossing over for food. You will now see Indian government trying to get friendly, solving the Kashmir issue and the cricket team wanting to tour Pakistan.
It was a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable our American and NATO friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their national resources and standing with them shoulder to shoulder. They are our partners and we share a unified vision in addressing the challenges facing the world.
The words of apology from United States and reciprocated by Pakistan are soothing to the families of those who died. For that Pakistan is thankful. It shows much maturity on part of Americans and Pakistanis alike. Let us move forward together in tackling the problems facing the world today, in particular terrorism and poverty, that are close to the hearts of both peoples.
Together we shall prevail, as we have done in the past while overcoming insurmountable odds. After all, the Americans and Pakistanis share common values and history in the struggle for their Independence and their fight for survival.
God Speed. "In God We Trust".
India can drape itself with an American flag, hide behind the American skirts, try to shed its communist skin and sweep the genocide in Kashmir and atrocities against minorities under the rug. But those who understand the Indians and have kicked the tires know well that it is a country that garners no respect and is not to be trusted. Indian Hindus are like termites that appear harmless but will eat you up to the core at the first chance they get. Therefore, from people who know them, they will never ever get any respect. That is one of the biggest character traits that has kept this country from progressing and amounting to much.
Wouldn't touch these hindu snakes with a 10 foot pole.
Remember the USS Liberty. The Israelis attacked our ship and murdered many US sailors and wounded many more. The ship was flying a large US flag. This was a premeditated and treasonous act by Israel.
Our real enemy is Israel and AIPAC. Stop funding terrorism.
Senator Feinstein is a great senator. She is a Jewish woman with strong anti-terrorism credentials. Of course a Pakistani Islamic person like you would have a lot of problem dealing with that: (1) Jewish, (2) woman, and (3) against terrorism. For an Islamist, that's 3 strikes against her.
If she stood against terrorism she would include Israeli terrorists in her policy-making. If you are ignorant about Israeli terrorism, that is not our fault. Also, some American congress persons have been implicated in showing favoritism towards Israel. If a politician wants to serve Israel, they should run in Tel Aviv not in Washington.
I would also like to present an alternate scenario to counter terrorism in this region. The goals being poverty alleviation, cooperation and promotion of democratic principles. We should look at forming a Union between the Middle Eastern countries and South Asian nations with the center of seat in Dubai, UAE or we can build a new capital city in the tribal regions of Pakistan/Afghanistan.
Certainly imploding India is a plausible and a probable scenario and perhaps inevitable.
"We" have already done far too much interfering in the entire region. "Our" goal in the region is eliminating terrorist threats to the US. We can do that without troops on the ground The players need to slug it out on their own.
If you want to take out some terrorist who hate America, point your cannons towards Tel Aviv.
The denuclearization of South Asia (Subcontinent) particularly India is imperative.
Quid pro quo transfer of nuclear technology by USA to third world countries such as India needs to be opposed on moral grounds. Billions of people live in that neighborhood and would be at risk from such catastrophes which I am sure the American people would not like to be a party to. We are all well aware that that region is prone to floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, and of course terrorism placing such nuclear installations at tremendous risks. US Congress is urged to reconsider and cancel all the agreements for the transfer of such technologies due “Force Majeure”.
India has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.
The thesis is that smaller independent states will generate tremendous economic demand for western nations and be democratically more efficient and governable
The Israeli Nukes have to be secured by the International community. No terrorist nation should have nukes.
So the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge.
Also Reprinted with Permission:
“Pakistan has become a dinosaur. A Smithsonian specimen. Like humpty dumpty even the USA, its NATO allies, and the entire free world are having a tough time holding it together. Living in the shadows of China, defined by “progressive mighty” India, haunted by Kashmir and punctuated by the “long lost” Bangladesh....Pakistan is struggling to find a meaning for its existence and a place in the new world order. How can it stand up? Certainly not on its feet .....perhaps on its knees to seek redemption for double crossing USA in Afghanistan, Iran. Typical of Pakistani DNA.”
PAKISTAN.....The New Gateway to Central Asia and Europe.
With a population of over 180 million most of whom are well educated, English speaking, entrepreneurial and a cultural and social fit with Central Asians...Pakistan will now become the new face and gateway to Central Asia and Europe. Pakistan will thus span this region and provide the impetus for growth, prosperity and unity among these countries. These are new and exciting times for Pakistanis who should now look forward to their new leadership role aligned with Central Asia and Europe rather than the Subcontinent. We wish them much success as they have sacrificed the most during the past 30 + years creating a new world order.
@World Order::: Welcome. Uzbeks look forward to working with Pakistan in taking this region forward on the path to prosperity. Omad yor bo'lsin.
Inchallah @New World Order !!! God willing brother
Stop plagiarizing dear. You are making Indians look bad again. This is what Indian do while studying abroad…plagiarize and cheat. Come up with some original thoughts that we may be proud of.
Why is this so?
Obama has realized that war in Af-Pak is nothing but a proxy war waged by Pakistan against the West. But as the author rightly pointed out the fact remains that Pakistan is a nuclear power and there are obvious dangers in alienating them right away.
At the same time America & the west only know too well that they will never be out of danger as long as the Pakistani Jihadic machine exists. To defang this Islamic dinosaur Pakistan, America in coordination with Europe, India and Israel is focused like a laser to take the Af-Pak war war into Pakistan, crush the Haqqanis, divide that country, and seize their self declared Islamic bomb.
Parallely America is also secretly engaged in limiting the Pakistani Diaspora in the west given that per the FBI/CIA/MI-6’s own analysis the Pakistani Diaspora remain the greatest danger to the west.
This belief is doubly reinforced by the warning from Pakistan’s Ambassador the UK Walid Shamsul Hassan who threatened of terror unleashed on the streets of London by the over 1 million Pakistani immigrants if the drone strikes don't stop…………..(Ref: Sunday Times Sept 8th 2008, and BBC video October 10th, 2008)….
And constant reminder by our own Islamic apologists like CNN’s Mr. Fareed Zakaria who ASTOUNDINGLY declared that “The Danger comes from us (the US) and NOT them (Al-Qaeda & Muslim radicals). Ref: Reflections on 9/11 and its Aftermath” CNN-GPS Sept 9th. 2011).
The real problem is Israel not Pakistan. Stop funding the Israeli terrorists and there will be more peace on earth.
Israel & India are two of the greatest natural allies of the US.
Israel has the unflinching support of over 1.0 Billion Non-Muslim Indians, and over 300 million Non-Muslim Americans.
Valiant little Israel is keeping the terrorists in that hostile region at bay on behalf of America.
Even Obama (misled by rabid anti-Semites like Mr.Fareed Zakaria) has not succeeded in throwing Israel under the bus.
Not sure what this guy from Atlanta is smoking but we Americans have nothing in common with India. Religion, culture, values are all different and never the twain shall me. We regard India as America's b$tch in South Asia to do our dirty bidings in Afghanistan and against China.
Thanks my dear Pakistani friend Jessup Germaine and we see MANY MANY more Pakistani friends with fake names here!!!!
Oh yeah @Amit-Atlanta-USA? How come the jet fighter plane bids were awarded to Europeans if we Americans are your allies. Buzz off. You speak with a forked tongue like a rattlesnake in Mojave Desert or perhaps a cotton mouth.
Bizarre Health Rituals in India Show Dangerous Side of Tradition
In what has got to be on of the most vile and disturbing things ever put to print, a man in eastern India was arrested for his unconventional and downright insane method of curing the common cold in children.
50-year old Jamun Yadav, who considers himself to be a demigod of the Hindu faith, believes he can channel and transfer divine energy through his feet, which has lead to him standing on the necks and throats of young children suffering from your average run-of-the-mill cold.
When asked about them, the guru claimed that he was merely speaking for God, and as such needs no other defense.
Enemy to US troops should be and must be placed on terror list. Prez Obama, would you please support the troops and do not worry so much about comforting the enemy.
Hi,
I thank God. As God has made U.S.A. to control the menace of Islam. As I find being a Indian most of the muslims have become violent day by day and the muslims donot get frightened of anyone with there jihadi ideology. So I find
the muslims get frightened only of U.S.A. who can give them really tough. And during this long tenour of war going against the radical muslims, the muslims arrogancy, jihadi and power has become maligned and diminishing. And I wish in another 10 years the muslims radiclas will really cool down. Thanks for al the sacrifice the american soldier are making, ita really worth for the universe. Praise the Lord. Bye
INDIA: S@X WITH COWS
Many Hindu temples have sculptures depicting men having s@x not only with women but also cows. What is the meaning of this? Is not the cow sacred? If it is, then it should be worshipped not s@xually assaulted and terrorised.
Pardon my culinary palette, the cow to me is a porterhouse on the table with A1 sauce on the side.
HINDU GODDESS PANCHALI: DOMESTIC TERRORISM
This goddess was married to five brothers. Which one would become the legitimate father of his child should she have one? Dr Charles (renowned author and an authority on India) says that instances of incest are common in Hindu scriptures.
Well well well. What have we here? Polygamy in reverse within a family.
THE HOUSE OF CARDS CALLED INDIA (Hindustan)
Good friends, sweet friends, let me not stir you up
Friends and countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury India, not to praise it.
It is the center of all Evil and Terror.
If USA won't drone, we will bring it to an end.
where is retard who talks to himslef here ..aka KRM ?
That is so obvious and so easy to spot. KRM posts under multiple names. He replies to himself and he is the only one who agrees with himself. He is the only one here who is defending terrorism.
This one is Indian too.....whoaaaaa....lotsa them hanging around
Another Indian
The US tends to lose its military expeditions because it is unwilling to do what is necessary to win.
Our opponents can readily see this, and will use that weakness to defeat us.
The US must grow a pair of huevos or face extinction.
The Jewish guy is totally correct. We can not trust the Israelis. They have been betraying us since that little country was founded again.
The real enemy of America is Israel.
Hope peace prevails.Please take example of HH Sheikh Rashid Al Makthoum.
Great visionary and left behind a wonderful family equally far sighted.
tthe problem is that cross border incursion are happening from both sides into both countries and neither Pakistan and nor Afghanistan are serious about dealing with it on the ground, both sides are just using words.
Put a fence up. Next?
U r right bro we dont need to stand to islam....
It never seems to stop. Even after getting rid of so many dirtbags in Pakistan, including their kingpin Osama, they continue to find more and more - like this Haqqani gang. Enough of this political correctness BS. A strong action is needed there.
agreed. "nation building" does not work with countries which are tainted by the evil of Islam. We need to stand up to the evil of Islam.
Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations. The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.
A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India. Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune. Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India.
Kali represents the defeat of Evil by the Good -nothing more.Human sacrifices ?more people die by kids mishandling shotgun in the US,you actually compare that to 2 cases of nutjobs per year in a country of a billion plus!.More aptly as a representation of Hinduism, you should have given the example of Krishna who was kind to man as well as animal.Then again,you are afraid of your religion being debated ,we are not.
Indian???? surely !!
These hindu deities should be declared FTD (Foreign Terrorist Deities). LMAO
If such is the underpinning of the hindu philosophy, can you imagine how sick the minds are of indians are who follow this cult. Is there any psychiatrist in the house?
What shocked me was a recent news article about an ongoing genocide in India. It is indicative of a total disregard of human lives. I would have thought that this would have ended with Kosovo and Bosnia. Perhaps it is time for USA and NATO to start bombing New Delhi as it did in Kosovo and Bosnia to stop this ethnic cleansing and murders. After all the military assets are nearby in Afghanistan and Bahrain and this could be accomplished with minimal cost.
ARE INDIANS UBER TERRORISTS OR WHAT???? Forget the GDP, focus on these murder statistics.
In India, millions of girls are strangled, slowly starved or simply tossed in the trash. Moreover, in India, at least 1,370 girls are aborted every day. As a comparison, some 250 Indians die every day in road accidents. Terrorists killed about six people, on an average, every day in 2009. In the last two decades of economic progress, 10 million girls have died as such in India.
SHAME ON INDIA AND ITS BARBARIC AND MEDIEVAL CULTURE !!!
Indians have killed more human beings (girls particularly) than Al Qaeda and Talibans put together.
Not surprising for people who has experience the brutality of hindu culture in India.
According to the new measure called the Multi-dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) developed by UNDP acute poverty prevails in eight Indian states which includes Bihar, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. They account for more poor people than in the 26 poorest African nations combined.
Islam offers nothing to humanity and surely must be an affront to God.
Can't go on giving money to Pakistan when they are harboring so many terrorists – First Osama then Haqqanis and more. Need to hold them accountable and straighten them out.
In some Haryana villages in India, the young girls are routinely threatened, abused and killed all under Khap (tribe/clan) verdicts. It is acceptable for the families to feed pesticide pills to the teenage girls and then dispose off their bodies by burning them without any police records.
Hope some day human lives will be valued in India.
Lordy have mercy. That day is coming when the Islamic Caliphate flag will be flying over New Delhi. It will be nirvana once again for the hindu indians.
To all Indians...."Ya'll, Now git back in line before I kick you so hard you'll be wearin your @ss for a hat."
THE HOUSE OF CARDS CALLED INDIA (Hindustan)
Good friends, sweet friends, let me not stir you up
Friends and countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury India, not to praise it.
The evil that India has done will live after it;
There is no good in the bones of any Indian body.
They are nothing but evil, nothing but cowardly shoddy.
If you have tears, prepare to shed them now.
If you have any b@lls, prepare to sacrifice them now.
But the time has come for Indians to get out of the trenches from hiding,
And face the Talibans head on and do the biding.
Protecting your country is Indian responsibility,
Subcontracting to Americans, Israelis and South Koreans is not an enduring possibility.
The Indian Debacle could overshadow the European crisis. GDP that has dropped off the cliff (4% est), budget deficits, collapse of Indian rupiah, rampant poverty, unemployment, FDI reversal, companies leaving town are some of the disastrous events that are threatening the Indian state. The downward spiralling is so severe that the Indian government has been unable to control it. Even the Americans have been unable to help and several trips by the treasury secretary were not helpful. This also has security repercussions for India and US defense secretary and secretary of state have flown in to counsel India on how to protect its borders with the help of Israel/IDF. Rumors have it that the breakup of India along the lines of Soviet Union is a very plausible scenario that I am sure intelligence agencies all over
the world are factoring in their geopolitical stress tests.
Haqqanis must be licking their chops and planning to raise the flag in New Delhi
I can explain all of this with one word...
ALIENS
the worst terrorist is obama to this nations economy and national debt he keeps running up, vote that liberal terrorist out.
Obama got Osama. 4 more years.
you paki liars. You have no other work other than deflecting the blame from pakistan to India.
You people are traitors, not just pakis , all muslims in general. Treason, treachery, pillaging, plundering and raping are the alphabets of your religion. Stop dreaming.Fastest growing does not mean the best. Rats, roaches and pests grow the fastest. It does not mean they are good. It is the way it is. They need to be exterminated by suitable pesticides.
Your religion is established by a deranged thug, rapist, paedophile.
HONOR KILLINGS IN INDIA
To be young and in love has proved fatal for many young girls and boys in parts of north India as an intolerant and bigoted society refuses to accept any violation of its rigid code of decorum, especially when it comes to women. The two teenage girls who were shot dead last week by a cousin in Noida for daring to run away to meet their boyfriends are the latest victims of honour killings, a euphemism for doing away with anyone seen as spoiling the family's reputation. Many such killings are happening with regularity in Punjab, Haryana and western Uttar Pradesh. These are socially sanctioned by caste panchayats and carried out by mobs with the connivance of family members.
this page stinks with lot of Paki dogs.
Bizarre child-burying Hindu ceremony in India
CNN:
Indian police have charged 80 people for burying children alive in an ancient Hindu ceremony known as "the festival of pits."
The ceremony, in which children - some less than a year old - are buried alive briefly and then dug up, happened on Monday in southern Tamil Nadu state, The Asian Age reported on Thursday.
Every two years, parents who have vowed to bury their first-born if they are blessed with a child, take part in the Kuzhimattru Thiru Vizha ceremony.
The children are drugged to make them unconscious and placed in shallow "graves" in temple courtyards.
The pits are covered with leaves and dirt and the children are pulled out after Hindu priests chant a brief prayer - lasting up to a minute.
Indian hindu? yes sireee
For crying out loud!!! Just call a spade a spade.... Pakistan IS INDEED a terrorist nation!! They can put their heads in the sand and dress it up however they want, but actions speak so much louder than words... You think I'm worried about hurting Pakistans feelings???? LOL ...... NOT!!!!!!!!
DEMISE OF INDIA: The aftermath of Afghanistan invasion
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India. Its demise is in process and should be completed with Afghanistan withdrawal.
Another hinduban
Should we really be surprised when we look at the bureaucratic, political and military bunglings at the hands of imcompetent decision makers ?
No, their incompetence does not surprise me. Instead we should look at the men and women who keep sending them back to DC year after year. Maybe it's the people who are pro-war and the Establishment is just doing as the citizenry wants?
The US war machine has killed more innocents than this group has. Look at the pot calling the kettle black.
What a stupid comment. The US does everything possible to avoid killing innocent civilians, while terrorist groups like the Haqqani Network INTENTIONALLY kill them.
The US has neutralizes so many terrorists in Pakistan. If you were not a Pakistani, you would have said "Thank you". This is the best use of tax dollars.
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Islam – the religion of peace? Yeah, right.
christianity-the religion og love?yeah,right.
Christians don't go around cutting the throats of people and showing it on TV and don't put 9 bullets into a women just so the person shooting her isn't embarassed to his friends. how many Christian "Honor Killings were done in the last year? The record clearly show over 5,000 Muslim honor killing last year and their not even doing it in their own country – ask Canada
aren't the christians in tanks,planes,humvees,...killing hundreds of thousands?napalm,orange,nukes,...not christian?
I've heard of christian aid groups. Christian outreach groups who build schools and infrastructure for poor areas in africa. I've heard of Jewish community groups that hose charity dinners.
Never heard of a muslim outreach, charity, or anything like that. Never heard a world Islamic leader condemn the fanatical sides of Islam.
Dont beleive the hollywood leftist hype. Islam is evil. end of story.
Hmmm – Did you watch CNN during Gulf War v1.0??? What did you think all of those Bombs were doing??? Many fired by 'Christian' soldiers (we are a Christian country for the most part – with strong religious views overall...)
Of course, those in the Infantry – well – THAT is up close and personal for the most part – In fact I always slept better because of that – I KNEW that I wasn't shooting at innocent people beause I could see them (MUCH less likely at least) – Something drones, bombing, arty etc can't guarantee...
So – I think killing is killing – PERIOD – method or location of munitions factory make NO difference – it is one set of brainwashed people fighting anotherset of brainwashed people....
I don't like seeing throats slashed on TV either – but seeing a childs crib crushed under bomb damage LIVE – well – that is worse – seeing the leg of said baby 3 feet away in a bloody heap – LIVE – well....... It just doesn't matter WHO did it now does it??? It is just wrong...
I am proud of my service, but not of my actions – I don't know how many would understand what I am saying, but I think a few may....
people who have no honour-the christians-cannot do honour killing,logical.your dad doesn't care who your mom sleeps with.is that a role model?
All religions are evil. God? Yes. Religion? No way.
Islam is like the Aids virus. Its pure evil.
Islam in Pakistan is like Aids combined with Cancer.
Screw Pakistan. This country was hiding Bin Laden for 10 years and is a pain in the ass. Since India's their prime enemy, just give India all the resources we give to Pakistan.
WHY? because just like CAIR is not on the watch list. the liberals and the Muslims are allies that is why. they protect them every chance they get. disgusting.
Sad but true, xfiler93.
The wrath of the LORD is upon America for abandoning religion and turning away from the life of holiness. America, the world's biggest exporter of immorality, presumes to sit in judgment on the world? Just as God used the lowly people of Afghanistan to bring down the godless Soviet Union its fate shall fall upon America in proportion to its own godlessness.
Bla Bla Bla...
Absolutely Correct!!!!!!
You know what shall fall? There will be a change in the earth's magnetic field caused by radioactive storms by the sun. That will in itself, kill half of humanity. No god can help that.
You are so anti American. Are you a muslim from Pakistan or from some other muslim country?
P – Provokes war
A – Anti peace
K – Killer of civilized societies around the globe
I – Irritating to its neighbors
S – Supreme liar
T – Torturous to its own people (terrorists) and a terror peddler
A – Annoying
N – Nefarious
Meri Chammak Challo
What is the national bird of Pakistan?
Answer: American Drones.
hahahahahahahaha.
The answer, unfortunately, is obvious. When the Russians were the bad guys in Afghanistan, the U.S. worked closely with the Haqqani network to defeat the Russians. When your former allies turn on you, it's not an easy step to say that they were not terrorists "way back when" but are terrorists now since we are no longer allies. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander?
i feel like throwing up from this "terrorism" thing.i am trying to see something nice in people,but it goes hard,man.
You would use any excuse or some made up history to justify terrorism, wouldn't you? I you are a peaceful human, why not just say that terrorism is wrong and is unjustifiable. However, if you are a muslim, then that is your way of life - I can understand that without ever agreeing with you in your support for terrorism.
who is more terrorist than americans?
Pakistan
not true,pakistani soldiers are all inside their border lines,unlike american.
@Sultan Hamid.
Not Pak Soldiers but Paki people are the biggest terrorists. Do everything evil and play victims. May you guys rot in hell.
President Obama voted "Present" on this issue, so that closes the matter for good.
Most of the trolls on this forum are hindu Indians. You can judge 'em by the quality of their posts...i.e. grammatical errors, abuses, nonsensical postings, anti muslim rant, all indicative of an alarming rate of illiteracy in India. They are all posting under christian names and replying to their own comments. Note how CNN is ignoring these comments that are clearly in contravention of CNN policies.
By adding that word, HINDU, you have basically exposed your TYPICAL Porkistani Islamic DUMB mindset and confirmed to the allegation that PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE !!!
Ubbay khotay saala bhurwaaa
You sound like a Paki immigrant. You only have problems, no solutions ever. India and religion is the things you will bring always, hoping to get 72 virgins after death. Good luck dixie (southern boy) 🙂
That devout Muslim in the White House masquerading around as a Christian is PROTECTING his terrorist brothers.. Its his DUTY to his god, Allah.
Its blatantly evident in every move he makes!
Paranoid idiot !
Respect your president.
No matter how you slice it, India is a Shiv Sena republic with an extremist bent. These are Noveau Nazis with a Hindu twist. We will hunt these BhaRATs down dead or alive, in George Bush’s lingo.
@The American Patriot
No you are not. you are just a paki boy trolling.
Have you seen any Islamic person ever been a PATRIOT? No. It is against their cult (a.k.a known as Islam by most Muslims) !!!
And, we understand you why you have mis-named yourself without ever even knowing its meaning !!!
We are well aware how poverty and hunger leads to terrorism.
In India people are dying of hunger. Why are these low caste Hindus prohibited from eating beef? In India cow meat is cheaper than other available meats. Instead of these Brahmins taking care of the low caste peoples of India they are doing their best to save their “holy” cows. According to Valmith’s Ramayana, God Rama “ATE” meat. Why then have these Brahmins given up beef-eating? Come on guys, feed the low caste in India with some steaks !!!
Dear Rev. significant population of India beleive a cow as their mother, because they drink its milk. Also pork is cheap, so would you suggest all the muslim brothers to eat it? oh btw some asians eat dogs, so why dont we all eat dogs?
what we eat depends upon its availability, our culture, and our traditions. isn't it easy to criticize others when we dont know anything about them?
sincerely
Sai
Then why are there pictures of gods having s@x with cows on your temples.
@Rev William Masterson. Let me take this oppurtunity to educate you reverand (I say this with great humility. You don't get a chance everyday to educate a reverand)
"We are well aware how poverty and hunger leads to terrorism"
Hunger does not lead to terrosim it leads to revolution. Relatively poor we are but hungry we are not.
"In India cow meat is cheaper than other available meats"
Not true sir. There is no cow meat available for purchase.
"According to Valmith’s Ramayana, God Rama “ATE” meat."
Its "Valmiki Ramayana" not Valmith’s and I am not sure if God Rama “ATE” meat.
"Why then have these Brahmins given up beef-eating?"
Brahmins do not eat meat not just beef. Others eat meat just not cow meat or pig meat.
People in the US and elsewhere may wonder why one would not eat beef. People in far eastern parts of Asia wonder why one could not eat Dog meat. It's just that different cultures do different wierd things. Every culture in the world is weird in some ways. Try to view your culture from an outsider perspective you can see it plain and clear.
In the name of Jesus, son, go have a steak.
The real enemy of the American people is Israel.
The real enemy to the American people is you!
No, the real enemy is AIPAC.
ISLAM is the REAL ENEMY OF ALL FREE PEOPLE!
I agree.
Stalin would be proud of you.
Spoken like a true Islamist. Aren't you the ONLY one who is justifying Islamic terrorism by posting under all kinds of different names? But it is so easy to spot though.
He is jobless. I am sure he is paid by Al Qaeda and ISI to post here. I hope the CIA is tracks him and roasts him with a drone.
The Israeli terrorists have done much harm to America. Read about it.
It is true. Many of the worst spies and terrorists that have harmed America are Israeli.
It's time we learn that Pakistan is not our friend and we should stop treating it as such. I know the administration is being careful because of its nuclear weapons stockpile, but I'm sure the Joint Chiefs could draw up a plan of how to secure the nuclear sites and then press Pakistan.
No worries. They can all be pointed towards India in 3 seconds and poof !!!!
Too late. The Muslim in Chief has just sent a request to give them 6 billion a year EVERY YEAR, indefinitely. While we are 17 TRILLION dollars "OVERDRAWN"
Were the previous administrations who sent similar funds also crypto-islamists?
This writer needs more training. Paragraph eight: Admiral Mullen didn't call the Haqqanis a "virtual arm" of the ISI, he called it a "veritable arm". That is a fundamentally different term: "virtual" is abstract, "veritable" has the strength of confirmation.
Also in that crappy eighth paragraph, last sentence: "Pakistanis has denied..."
Yet another example of shoddy journalism with crappy writers, cutting corners without copy-editors.
We helped these Pakistanis when they had floods. We helped these Pakistanis when they had earthquakes and were dying in droves. We give Pakistan billions in aid every year. And in return Pakistan gives safe haven to terrorists like Haqqanis, bin Laden, and Khaleed Sheek Mohamed who kill Americans. Economic sanctions and military action against the Haqqani/Pakistani alliance is the right answer.
pakistan got 8 million from India dr\urings floods ... 15000 pakistanis got free medical in India in 2011 .. as pakistanis
cant cure dengue fever or do kedney transplants ... 25000 pakistanis including articst moved to India in last 5 years for better life
Colossians 3:17
"And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."
Pakistan is our friend and ally since 1947. We fought the commies USSR and their buddies India together in Afghanistan and defeated them thus ending the cold war. Pakistan is the cornerstone of American foreign policy. Not only that, since Sep 11, 2001, 21,672 Pakistani civilians have lost their lives or have been seriously injured in the war against terror.
The Pakistani Army also has lost 2,795 soldiers while 8,671 soldiers have been wounded. More than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over US $1 Trillion due to terrorism.
Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”. What more can we ask for. Thank you Pakistan. The American people acknowledge your contributions in safeguarding our country.
Partner, we are with you. Together we shall prevail, as we have done in the past while overcoming insurmountable odds. After all, the Americans and Pakistanis share common values and history in the struggle for their Independence and their fight for survival.
God Speed. "In God We Trust".
It is a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable our American and NATO friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their national resources and standing with them shoulder to shoulder. We share a unified vision in addressing the challenges facing the world.
Are you on drugs ?
Muslims will never accept Christians.
Some of them will tell you this to your face.
Christians will always be infidels to them no matter how much you do for them.
Anyone who is not a Muslim is an infidel to them.
Wake up and smell what you're cooking.
New, More Dangerous Hindu Extremist Groups Emerge in India
Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.
Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.
Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities
Todd, Sajjad, and Heath–you're full of it.
Pakistan has NOTHING in common with the USA. That country harbors and sponsors terrorism with the goal of cementing their influence over the region at the detriment of its enemy, India.
Nothing will change until the western world realizes countries full of muslim extremists like Pakistan need to be isolated from civilization.
@ Heath Pedersen
They are getting paid millions for their ‘service’, magnanimity and generosity have nothing to do with it.
Pakistan is our dog.
this page stinks with Paki dogs.
dear Peter, Pakistan basically screwed itself encouraging right wing extremists to fight Soviets in Afghanistan. This is a fallout of that war. Bombing them wont do anything other than hurting the common man.
sincerely
Sai.
Here's a less costly response to Pakistan: Provide diplomatic backing to the Balochistan separatists. This neglected province of Pakistan are persecuted. An independent Balochistan will provide a friendly sea-route for Afghanistan. It will cut Pakistan down to size.
Indian bookies chuck some penies to pakistani pet dogs they come running there tail shaking ..to lose matches ...
ROLF ..pakistanis are great pets 🙂
hahaha same retrad pakistani kid psoting same thing and replying to hims self all over the page
guess appa ji on periods and dont wanna do him tonight
Huh...thought this was an article about Obama.
Child Soldiers of India
India as a nation is facing a new problem concerning its children- emergence of children as soldiers in strife -torn states of Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, AndhraPradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Manipur, Nagaland and Assam. They are getting drawn into fighting both with rebel groups as well as security forces. What was considered a problem in African countries of Sudan, Sierra Leone and other countries like Sri Lanka and Nepal has become a reality for India too.
According to human right activists the actual number of children recruited by state or non state groups as soldiers is not as obvious as in other countries but we know there is an increasing number of children being drawn into active combat.These children exposed to war and conflict are one of the most vulnerable groups often forced to witness or perpetrate combat atrocities. They are scarred for life, their childhood shattered.
The bad news just keeps on coming. Why isn't CNN making the American people aware of all of this info? They have a big team in India for what? There is nothing happening in a country of over a 1.2 billion people? WOW !
Because CNN is a left wing enterprise and being used by current US Admin to implement its foreign policy via media. Notice how some comments being posted by Indians are being published without censorship. Right now, India is America's beetch in Asia and hence they are treading gingerly till they use 'em and then they will spit India out like a paan.
abbu gandu ammi rand
dil dil pakistan
Please cite the source of your rant.
You have just named random states and proclaim they are "strife -torn states ". Andhra Pradesh is like the 5th richest state in the country. Annual budget of Andhra pradesh was 27 Billion USD same as entire pakistan annual budget.
FYI Minimum age to join the military in India is 18 and no nobody can bend that rule.
http://www.apfinance.gov.in/html/budget.htm#bb
http://www.finance.gov.pk/budget/BudgetinBrief_2011_12.pdf
Will you pull your pants down if i showed you it. Not for nothing !
@Southern Boy
I know you Pakis wont be able to handle the truth. I feel sorry for you.
solem advice – Quit trolling on discussion boards and focus your energy on educatig yourself, get a good job and work hard. THAT will get you and your country a good name not the nasty comments on discussion boards.
"Terrorism" is a buzzword for activites which depends upon who is the accuser and what they are attempting to achieve by using the term. While people such as Dianne Feinstein define it loosely to apply to any organisation which is opposed to U.S. objectives and may engage in actions which it feels are appropriate to carry out its mission, those who are being affected ty U.S. drone atttacks easily could apply the term to the U.S. and its tactics and objectives..
Shall we all chip in and buy you a dictionary?
We have been fighting a war for the past ten years with no end in sight. Our soldiers have shed blood to no end. Their families are suffering. Has even one Indian soldier sacrificed his life in helping the Americans, NATO and western countries in fighting this war? The answer is a resolute NO. Folks, just think about it, 1.2 million Indian Army soldiers are sitting in trenches doing what???? Sure the heck beats me. Americans are now questioning the US Congress as to what they are doing to correct this unsustainable relationship with India. The India caucus is being monitored by citizen groups. If they don't respond to the needs of the American people political contributions to them will be severely impacted.
You know, I was thinking about that too. Why don't they just dismantle the Indian army and feed the poverty stricken masses with the savings. Why do you need an Indian Army when the US Army is already there? An empty mind is the devil's workshop !
Are you plagarising or just postin the same stuff over and over? I saw the exact same post in another discussion board on CNN. http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/29/what-happened-to-incredible-india/?iref=allsearch
This was my answer then (At that time I thought a geninue american was a bit misinformed. Little did I know that it was a paki boy trolling)
DBA
@ Mr. Marcus
I can understand where you are coming from. You may feel that America is trying set things right in the world and world/India is not helping enough. But please understand that India is a sovereign country and It's main intentions are not to satisfy "needs of the American people". India is trying to pitch in as much as it can. India is a good source for intelligence to the USA & NATO in Afghanistan. India is also trying to share some burden in policing international waters to stop piracy and so on... Please understand that India has major problems of its own to attend to, with 30 percent of its population living below the poverty line. Would USA have gone to war if it was in India's position? There's a huge uproar and every body started blaming the wars and Mr.Bush when unemployment jumped to double digits and economy stepped into a recession.
In 2007 USA defense budget was 31 times the total annual budget of India and 280 times the Indian defense budget. India neither has the resources nor the will to fight wars. India is the land of Asoka, Buddha and Gandhi. India will not wage war unless there is no other option left on the table and that is why a Pakistan still exists.
chuutyaah
The bottom line is that the only way to have peace in Afghanistan and lessen regional tension is split India into pieces. It has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts
Of course, we can carve out a hindu nation along the a portion of the western coast where they can continue to practice their medieval culture and hopefully come into the folds of the modern world within the next century
So what you are saying is that the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge, stopping the genocide in Kashmir?
Of course, we in the US realize that India is a good friend and the real enemy is Pakistan–you know, the same place that sheltered bin Laden and where the Taliban originated.
Mumbai and Chennai in India are the illegal cricket gambling capitals of the world. Cash Flows from these operations are being siphoned off by the Indian government to finance terrorists globally, particularly in the region. This off the book financing is also being used by Indians to put money in Haqqani network pockets as hush money and for creating problems in Afghnaistan. This way the Indians are able to dodge the American financial radar.The American congressional politicians have been alerted to the double game Indians are playing.
Singapore is being used to launder the money. FYI.
Makes sense. Probably that is why this Singapore guy is visiting India todivvy up the cash proceeds or perhaps to siphon off the cash to Haqqani Group Inc.
Thats awsome ...Indians chuck some penies to pakistanis they come running with tails shakings to lose games
hahahah pakistanis are sour broke losers
"Enemy of the US, but not on the terrorist list" I thought they were going to say corrupt politicians... Guess not.
That was the first thing that popped into my mind too.
There is a problem here:
Step-1: The US gives aid to Pakistan.
Step-2: Pakistan gives some of this money to Haqqani.
Step-3: Haqqani terrorists kill US troops.
One of the links has to be broken.
Designating Haqqnis as FTO will ensure that Pakistanis can not take the Step-2.
That will fix the problem.
We should be able try all of our leaders since they are supporting the enemy. I think we should ship them to Gitmo.
Enemy to US troops but not on the list: GWB, Dick Cheyney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condeleeza Rice, Colin Powell, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Michele Bachman, John Cornyan, Mitch McConnel, John McCain... the entire GOP and the Teapublicans!!! Aka: enemies of the state!!!
Sure I do not agree with the GOP/Teapublican policies and practices because I think those are terrible but they do not don a suicide vest and blow up innocent people. In a democracy, we may disagree but we deal with the GOP by debate and elections. The real enemy are the Islamists, and we need to deal with them with economic sanctions and the awesome US military hardware.
Are you kidding me? Who do you think were behind Congresswoman Gabriella Giffords and others being gunned down in Arizona? The home grown domestic terrorist group called the teapublicans! Who do you think were behind the oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico a year ago? The teapublican party! Who do you think were behind the hiring of that gun man Oscar Ortega Hernandez who took shots at the White House a year ago? The teapublicans! Who do you think paid that jewish publisher to call for the assassination of the President? The teapublicans! Who do you think are behind the conservative base driving around America with bumper stickers and T-shirts, calling for the assassination of our President? The teapublicans! Who do you think are spreading bigotry and racism and using their hate to divide America and return our nation back to the Jim Crow era? The teapublicans! Who do you think is conspiring to undermine our democracy each and every day? The teapublicans!
Gifford was attacked by a nut job who has no party affiliation. Teapublicans are lousy people but they never blow themselves up to hurt others. You can have a debate with them. The real enemy is Islamic fundamentalism that can not be reasoned with. Tea party has a stupid agenda but being stupid is neither criminal or immoral - I happen to differ with them. Islamists are criminal and immoral. You got to be a completely crazy or a you may be a fundamentalist Muslim to blame oil rig explosion or Gifford shooting on Tea Party just to divert attention from where it needs to be.
Did you get a deal on tinfoil hats?
I like how the article is about Pakistan being a terrorist state, but then Pakistanis bring in India so they are not embarrassed about being terrorists. Stop this blaming to other nations, and help eradicate terrorism in Pakistan. Tell the Pakistani gov't to help US kill all the terrorists.
Sure I do not agree with the GOP policies and practices because I think those are terrible but they do not don a suicide vest and blow up innocent people. In a democracy, we may disagree but we deal with the GOP by debate and elections. The real enemy are the Islamists, and we need to deal with them with economic sanctions and the awesome US military hardware.
Or maybe you could do it with your "awesome" XBox hardware.
It is much easier to just talk and complain and comment about issues around the world in the comforts of our computers. Notice, those who make comments... do these same people (you and me) try to do anything about it? I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just making my own comment.
It's quite funny just how quick we are to chastise other nations for sponsoring Terrorism when we ourselves did so time and again. Look at what happened in Chile back in 1973 and then again look at at how Ronald Reagan fought to get funding for the Contras, a brutal, right-wing terrorist network in Nicaragua during the 1980's. The list goes on and on!
Look what al Qaeda did on 9/11.
No, GWB did that! Google http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm and get the facts!
Never ever trust a republican again!!!
You know what? They couldn't attack us if we weren't there. It's not like these cave dwellers with sand in their underwear would even care about attacking us, if we weren't there. But, rather than just leave, we'll spend hundreds of billions of dollars hunting them down and killing them.
No wonder these clowns cannot balance a budget.
Now that's one of the most sensible posts I've seen here yet. Thank you, Richard.
They did attack us, on 9/11. It was Al-Qaeda, supported by the Taliban who destroyed the WTC. So yes, they can kill us even if we're not there.
Not really. The entire 911 was planned in Pakistan. Khalid Sheek Mohamed, the mastermind of 911, was found living happily in Pakistan. We can not ignore the Pakistani threat, which needs to be neutralized. You guys don't like the US troops there and that is understandable since that ruins your party with those Haqqani terrorists. Can't keep funding Pakistan and not hold them accountable. Pakistan's honeymoon with terrorists is will be over once Haqqani network is designated as FTO.
we have extremely small weiners.
hahah i see same retard kid posting and replying to his own messeges ..rolf
Terror in the temple
INDIA: S@X WITH COWS
In many Hindu temples there are sculptures depicting men having s@x not only with women but also cows. What is the meaning of this? Is not the cow sacred? If it is, then it should be worshipped not s@xually assaulted!
We call them Indian "Cowboys"
I am in the wrong place !! When is the next flight to India? Can someone save a spot for me in the Mandar. I'm a coming !!!
HINDU KALI-GODDESS OF VIOLENCE/TERRORISM
A recent report by United Press trust of India (UPI) stated that during the past three years more than 2,500 young boys and girls were sacrificed to goddess Kali in India. Another of AFP's recent reports say: hundreds of young boys and virgin girls are sacrificed every month for the deity Kali. In one case Rama Sewak hacked his eight year old son to death in broad daylight in Delhi because goddess Kali had told him he would come back to life and bring him good fortune. Bloodthirsty Kali is worshipped openly the length and breadth of India. Kali's statue stands naked astride the inanimate body of the Hindu deity Shiva, tongue stuck out with blood dripping from fang-like teeth. She holds a noose, a skull-topped staff, a blood-encrusted sword and a severed head. She is also known as Durga, Devi, Shaktima, Uma and Parvathi in other manifestations. The priest of Delhi, Kali Bari, says that a child sacrificed to Kali ensures a man the birth of a son. Human sacrifices are also made to these gods or goddesses, either to appease them or to ask favours of them.
India needs to stop terrorizing in the names of its blood thristy deities. This is primitive. Why is US Congress keeping quiet on this horrendous human rights violation.
Congressman Dana Rohrabacher...please take note. We expect a resolution in the congress soon to make India stop this nonsense. This goes against the grain of american culture, sir. Meanwhile, please stop taking political contributions from Indians and declare the names of those who you have already taken money from, sir.
This is absolutely repulsive. STOP !!!!
You both need help.
@Jeremy: Fluke you, Muslim Paki s c u m bag liar.
Unbelievable ! I can't believe this disgust. How can this happen in this millenium? Americans need to stop visitng such a repulsive place. We need to organise protests in front of Indian embassy in D.C. And consulates in NY, CA, TX etc.
not sure why India comes in comments when there is new of Pakistan. Some jokers splash some lies, some fools believe that. Amazing America.
So the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge. That is why. Get it?
wasn't that an Indian Jones movie?
Indiana Jones...sorry, lol
Wonder if hindus worship John Bobbitt's penis?
Not true, Indiana Jones put a stop to this practice several years ago.
Times have changed. Pakistan should be forced to change its ways too. Mohammed married a 6 year old and consummated when she was 9 – that does not mean that we should legalize pedophilia in this day and age. Everyone knows that Pakistanis sponsored terrorism in the past – that does not mean we can let Pakistan continue to sponsor terrorism any longer.
We could not change India nor turn Gandhi around from banging @asses of boys (in the name of pacifism), how in the world are we gonna change others. Beats me.
INDIA: On a Goat and a Stick:
The problem with India is that is built on a system of cultural and societal values based on Hinduism which is a cult. Nations built on a cult seldom survive in the long run. You can only take it so far based on symbolisms of a goat and a stick with a skinny little man aka Bapu Mahatma Gandhi banging boys at night and spinning wheels during daytime.
In the civilised world such as America we call this man a pedophile.
wow!
Hey, MohammadADar.
F
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Please Mad Sam, must you use that Tea Party expression here? Like you, I too get aggravated at some of the nonsense these right-wing nutjobs post on this website. By using that Tea Party lingo only puts one in their class. Besides, one should have more self respect than that!
You get aggravated because you're insane (and wrong).
Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan will also have access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well-being as well as military clout.
Pakistan has arrived to take the helm of the ship and steer the region to prosperity. We certainly needed a captain over there.
Without a doubt Pakistan needs to move away from American sphere of influence. Not many countries/friends/allies have benefited from American friendship. Certainly, not Pakistan. As Yogi Berra said, "When You Reach a Crossroad, Take It " !!! This is your opportunity to walk away from American grip. It will mean a lot of sacrifices short term but will be worth it in the long run. DO IT !!
Which is why we should cut Pakistan loose and embrace India.
Come to Papa for a Sandusky like hug......moooooch
man, for a peace-loving country, us Americans sure do love to reflect the waring hatred that terrorists supposedly inflict on us... i can't remember the last time a terrorist threatened my way of life, but my government sure is giving me a hell of a time.
Here's an idiot who thinks a little terrorism is acceptable. Amazing.
What gives? Haqqani network was a friend of ours and won the Vietnam War for us by defeating the commies USSR and their buds India in Afghanistan. They shed blood for us more than our soldiers did. How come they are now enemies??? Hmmmm.....
Times have changed. Pakistan needs to change its ways too. Mohammed married a 6 year old and consummated when she was 9 - that does not mean that we should legalize pedophilia in this day and age. Everyone knows that Pakistanis were friendly with the terrorists in the past - that does not mean we can continue to let them sponsor terrorism.
Apparently, Haqqani group is known as freedom fighters in Indian Occupied Kashmir. Indians are using USA to muscle Pakistan. Recall, Pakistan is a nuclear nation that India is afraid to mess with. Pakistan has told USA to in turn solve Indian Kashmir problem for problem to go away.
This is election season in USA and this is a political trump card for politicians. The congressmen who are making noise are mostly from states that have a large number of Indian immigrants who are giving political contributions to them.
1947
Birth of Pakistan – Beginning of the Demise of India
This year marks the first implosion of India as a nation. This year also represents the loss of Indian conscience following the massacre of over 3 million innocent Muslim civilians, women and children who were migrating to Pakistan. We shall never forget. We won’t let the world forget. There will be accountability.
Never thought of it that way. The emergence of Pakistan as a nation was indeed the confirmation of the notion that implosion of India was inevitable. That took place over 60 years ago and is now ripe for the second phase of implosion. Hopefully it will be a controlled implosion this time around overseen by CIA
More likely will be Pakistan's implosion (literally) when it lets its terrorists friends get ahold of one of its nukes. Hopefully, by then the US will have embraced India to counter the common enemy: Pakistan.
Pakistan appears to have made a very thoughtful democratic and parliamentarian decision with regards to issues at hand with USA. It was very disingenuous for Panetta to make comments such as he did in India knowing well that Pakistanis don't have much respect for Indians. He probably took a calculated risk and the reply message from Pakistan was pack your negotiating team and get out of Pakistan. For a global power to pick a fight with such a time tested ally such as Pakistan is indicative that American foreign policy has been hijacked. It is Jimmy Carter deja vu all over again.
With an "ally" such as Pakistan, America need not look further for an enemy!
PAKISTAN.....The New Gateway to Central Asia and Europe.
With a population of over 180 million most of whom are well educated, English speaking, entrepreneurial and a cultural and social fit with Central Asians...Pakistan will now become the new face and gateway to Central Asia and Europe. Pakistan will thus span this region and provide the impetus for growth, prosperity and unity among these countries. These are new and exciting times for Pakistanis who should now look forward to their new leadership role aligned with Central Asia and Europe rather than the Subcontinent. We wish them much success as they have sacrificed the most during the past 30 + years creating a new world order.
Hail to the chief
99.9% of the people commenting on this are very strange and that is one of the only facts you will find on this thread.
You seem to be one of those india hindus afraid to look in the mirror. We are up to you guys now that we have taken care of Al Qaeda and taliban. We are coming your way.
YOU YANKS ARE STUPID if you will win by killing more innocent people
I have the real solution to the war!
All Afghan girls should be just like her:
http://pashtotube.com/video/94KKW27BKRG8/MEENA-BA-KAWO-YARA-NAZIA-IQBAL
The war would be over if they could be !
That comment made absolutely no sense in English.
F u c k
you and your virus-infested websites.
The solution is to marry cute little girls.
Little girls often are adorable, men will be happy and not hate eachother. Also they can make sure that one country in the world is a man's country where man is master. One country where men can have little girl wives.
TERRORIST GROUPS IN INDIA
• RASHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SHANG (R.S.S.)
• VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD
• HINDU MUNNANI
• ARYA SAMAJ
• SHIV SENA
• BHARATIYA JANATA PARISHAD
• SANT SAMITI
• HINDU MAHASABHA
• BAAJRANG DAL
Why are not these punks being droned? They are massacring christians and muslims in India. CIA needs to refocus its energies on the terror in india now that Al Qaeda is done.
There are virtually no Christians in India, d u m b Paki bas tard.
@JimMN Uh cause not one of those groups he listed has had any involvement in Afghanistan.
What the heck are you talking about? Terrorism is everywhere...Norway...USA, UK, Russia, China, India to name a few. India too needs to clean up its act and fast. We cannot be allied with a nation with such medieval traits. Period. Not with my tax dollars.
When one of those alleged terrorist groups attacks the US, then we'll pay attention, "Stuart"–you're not fooling anyone, we know it's just one lone Paki posting all this drivel.
These groups were formed to stop the scurge of islam and sharia law in India. Bring sharia to the US and see how many of the same groups will crop up to stop it. And in India these groups fight with sticks. In the US they will fight with guns. Damned P a k i !!
They have found the elephant!
You see: only high ranking US officials know that there are bad terrorists and good terrorists! And sometimes they are both the same: just changing with time or the geography.
Bangash, I wouln"t try to respond to your rhetoric because I can't understand your comment.
Before you post any more comments on English language blogs, could you please learn how to use the language.
Could you please learn how to use paragraphs.
You should also take middle-school & high-school level courses on geography, American & world history, English composition language.
Kent English is not my language, so mistakes might be there but message is quite clear for those who have mind and courage to speak the truth. Instead of indulging in gramatic interpretation you should have rejected my plea with equal logical reply so that at least I would have corrected where you think I am wrong. Sorry for your short sighting.
Pakistan is a terrorist state.
PAKISTAN !!!!
THANK YOU …. THANK YOU…. THANK YOU!!!!
FOR MAKING USA SAFE FOR MAKING THE WORLD SAFE>>>>>>>>>>>>
Since Sep 11, 2001, over 200,000 Pakistani civilians, armed forces personnel have either sacrificed their lives or wounded; more than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost over
US $ 1 Trillion due to terrorism.
Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.
No other country has even come close to selflessly sacrificing so much.
Pakistan, no one can ever repay you enough for your contributions.
You deserve a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for your contributions to world peace and emergence of a new world order. We welcome your rise as the new regional military power. God Speed.
Before they even get a seat at the UN maybe a requisite should be to have control of their own national territory. There are large territories in their nation where the government has no control. And as for their contributions to world peace, allowing their country to be over run with terrorists and other dangerous militant factions, even going so far as to harbour one of the worlds most dangerous terrorist leaders in a military camp, does not count as a contribution.
Pakistan be damned. The country should be brought down and ceaded to India, at least india has some form of legitimate government.
Besides emerging as a regional power, the time has come for Pakistan to take the leadership role in the Islamic World and lead them to the path of progress, prosperity and glory. The only nuclear nation in the Islamic World, Pakistan has shown the world that it can stand up to the nuances of world politics on principles and partake in global affairs. Also, that it can equally contribute to the progress of this planet called Earth. The sacrifices of the Pakistani nation in making this world safe are unmatched and deserves a seat at the table of the permanent members of The UN Security Council.
It is a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable our American and NATO friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their national resources and standing with them shoulder to shoulder. They are our partners and we share a unified vision in addressing the challenges facing the world.
I have read with interest the thesis presented in such forums that "small is beautiful". Empowering subjugated minorities in India by splitting it into smaller states would trigger uber economic demand for western nations who have given so much financial and technology aid to India with no return to show for the investment
@ Zainab:: I concur with this approach and with economic background find the premise to be on solid footing. Central Asian States (CAS) are a case in point on this successful approach. We need to understand that India has an unmanageable large population mired in poverty and we are spinning our wheels trying to feed it. It is also too big of a geographical unit to govern. Again, we saw how a few teenage talibans were able to invade it with a few BB guns. Even the CIA/Mossad were not able to stop it.
Nuke the Pakis and make them into a sea of glass.
The lone Paki cutting & pasting comments and responding to himself is not fooling anyone. Pakistan is the world's enemy because it sponsors and harbors terrorists.
Kindly correct name as Bangash
It is indeed unfortunate that UNO or other big one in world politics specially USA have miserably failed to find a universally accepted definition of terrorism. This is also undeniable fact that not only 70% of American public opinion but almost rest of the world have a lot of reservation against the Pentagon definition of terrorism and critics in USA usualy called the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cheating of Americans public to justify misuse of billions dollars they cheat from taxpayers.
USA had been the main creater of Haqani network and Jalal-u-Din Haqani had been one of the main commander who had visited USA and had met with President of USA in return for his contributions in the US war against the then USSR on Afghan soil which President Reagon used to call the evil empire and named Afghanistan as a bleeding wound for Russians. CIA had established special military training center Zhawar in Khost province, at border with Waziristan under his command where only Arabs were being trained and then used in the war against Russia. Later Arab trainese in same camp were blamed for attack on WTC, probably in 1993 when in retaliation cruise missiles were fired on same camp. Jalal-u Din Haqani had joined hand with Americans against the Russian invasion on his homeland Afghanistan and had got appreciation from Americans on state level. Today he is fighting American invasion of his homeland, Afghanistan and world history is full of praise for those who are fighting agression on their homelnads. America has special mouments for their war heroes for sacrifying lives against the aggressors. This also had been the history that a terrorist for one nation had been the hero of rival nation therefore American Congress which stand for upholding the American national values (universal justice, peace and prosperity) should come forward and dig out the history of the prevailing terrorism in the world. I am sure they will find Haqani network and similar other all over the world either victims or a part of American international terrorism. So the key to terrorism issue is in Washington hands and it can be finished provided America return to for which it has come into existance after passing through a river of blood in war against the Imperialism on their soil. This is an internet age and with a single click every one can see their past, present and can make their opinion for future and already after the experiences of the second world war all nations, under UN charter, have committed to save succeeding generations from the scourge of wars which apperently leave no doubt for US Congress to go ahead and change the America lliving on income from MIC and making the world a hell for every one, including Americans.
Spoken like a Paki who supports global muslim terrorism.
Yakubi like others you too had no point to contradict above facts with equal facts and in short called it global Muslim terrorism. You can close your eyes and can ignore ground realities but history cannot. So let us wait and see who is terrorist and has main role in international terrorism.
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