June 7th, 2012
06:28 PM ET

Libyan official: U.S. drones seeking jihadists in Libya

By Nic Robertson, Paul Cruickshank and Jomana Karadsheh reporting from Tripoli, Libya

A senior Libyan official told CNN that the U.S. is flying surveillance missions with drones over suspected jihadist training camps in eastern Libya because of concerns over rising activity by al Qaeda and like-minded groups in the region but said that to the best of his knowledge, they had not been used to fire missiles at militant training camps in the area.

The revelation follows a failed attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi on Tuesday night, which a shadowy jihadist group claimed was to avenge the death of al Qaeda No. 2 Abu Yahya al-Libi.

The official said that one militant commander operating in Derna, Abdulbasit Azuz, had complained that a drone strike had targeted his training camp in the east of Libya.  Last month, there were reports of explosions outside the Derna area in the vicinity of the camps, according to a different source.

The CIA's covert drone strike program is rarely publicly acknowledged.  It has been widely reported that drones have been deployed to target militants in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

The U.S. flew drones for a while after the NATO intervention in Libya to monitor chemical and biological sites, US military officials tell CNN. But the officials would not comment on whether drone flights were ongoing.

The senior Libyan official said it would be bad if such a strike had occurred. He added that the Americans' use of drones in a surveillance capacity had been discussed at the top level of the transitional Libyan government.

As CNN has reported, Azuz is a senior al Qaeda operative and longtime close associate of the group's leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who was dispatched to Libya from the tribal areas of Pakistan in spring 2011, according to several sources.  There, he subsequently recruited fighters.

Azuz is a veteran jihadist who fought the Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan in the early 1990s, according to several sources.  He later to moved to the UK, where he increasingly came on the radar screen of British security services for his radical recruitment efforts in Manchester.  In the period after the July 2005 London bombings, he was detained in the Belmarsh high-security prison and placed under a Control order, according to the sources.

He left the UK in 2009 and traveled to the tribal areas of Pakistan, from where al-Zawahiri redeployed him to Libya to set up a bridgehead for the terrorist group, according to the sources.

According to one source, Azuz has dispatched men as far west as Ajdabiya and Brega in his attempt to build up al Qaeda operations in eastern Libya.

According to the senior Libyan official, five radical Islamist militant commanders are operating in the Derna area, with 200 to 300 men under their command in the camps.

According to Libyan security sources, within the militant ranks in Derna, there are 20 to 30 hardcore jihadist fighters who are cause for most concern. One source said a number of Egyptian jihadists are also present in the Derna area, as well as fighters belonging to al Qaeda's North African affiliate, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

Recently, Libya's grand mufti, Asadiq Gherayli, met with the five militant commanders, and four of them, including Azuz, agreed with the government terms not to carry out attacks.

Only one refused: Sufian bin Qumu (also known as Abu Faris al Libi), a released Guantanamo detainee who is believed to be operating a camp in the mountainous woods along the sea outside Derna.

Qumu, 53 is a Libyan jihadist who participated in jihad in Afghanistan in the early and mid-1990s and joined the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in Sudan in the mid-1990s, where he worked as a truck driver for bin Laden's company, according to a detainee assessment compiled while he was at Guantanamo.

He subsequently moved to Pakistan and then to Afghanistan, during which time he left the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and declared allegiance to the Taliban, according to the assessment. He was arrested in Pakistan after fleeing Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban and handed over to U.S. authorities.

The assessment described him as having a "long-term association with Islamist extremist Jihad and members of Al-Qaida and other extremist groups."

Moammar Gadhafi's Libyan government said the assessment considered him "a dangerous man with no qualms about committing terrorist acts." The assessment said he had once assaulted guards at the detention facility in Cuba.

It added that before becoming a jihadist, Qumu had served as a tank driver in the Libyan army before spending several years in prison on accusations of murder and drug dealing. It was after his escape in 1993 that he first traveled to Afghanistan.

According to one source, locals in Derna believe he was behind an assassination attempt several months ago on Abdel Hakim al Hasadi, another militant commander in the city.

Several senior Libyan officials said they were aware of Azuz and Qumu's presence in the Derna area.

They say local tribes, including the Obeidi tribe, which control the area are keeping watch on the camps. One source said the tribes have the authority to capture and kill the occupants. "No one who leaves ever goes back," one source said.

Another source said that the militants are proving increasingly unpopular in Derna and that residents recently forced one group to vacate a camp on the outskirts of the city.

The jihadist group that claimed responsibility for the failed attack on the U.S. Mission in leaflets left at the scene called itself the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades. It promised more attacks against American interests.

It was first heard from late last month, when it claimed responsibility for an attack on a Red Cross office in Benghazi. A purported video of the attack was apparently posted on jihadist websites that regularly feature statements by al Qaeda. The video showed several rockets being fired into a building at night.

In claiming responsibility, the group stated, "We do not recognize (state) borders when we plan for our operations, and we have prepared a message that will soon reach America in response to polluting the clarity of the defiant city of Derna," according to a translation by Flashpoint Partners, which monitors jihadist websites.

According to a source in touch with jihadist militants in eastern Libya, there are indications the group has roots in the Derna area.

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  28. Ahmed

    Right now I'm in derna and I see all the Qaeda stuff the camp is nearby and sofian bin qumo owns the one restaurant here that actually serves clean meat (only play i don't get sick from) its called paypaes. And there defiantly is a drone in the sky that's what led me to this article...I'm visiting here from the u.s but I'm originally from derna, I don't see why these people hate the u.s so much they should ask the u.s for help to show they how to properly govern a country the people who live in this city don't know what the outside world even looks like most of them have never even left Libya

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  30. gamersliverfang

    Sure they are Seeking Jihadists the drones would just probably kill innocent civilians just like in Pakistan they are.
    Funny that CNN is only now reporting that the Jihadists were in Libya?

    CNN Gadaffi was defending his country from the Jihadists and the terrorists which we the west had helped them to win apparently.

    June 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • Free Libyan

      I SAY, MORE DRONES AMERICA, the more drones you send, the quicker we can despatch those terrorists to hell. Yes some civilians would die, and it is those civilians that hide these terrorists and give them support, so I won't shed a tear.

      You say " we the west ", who are you kidding ?, you're no west, you are nothing but a Libyan and a Gaddafi stooge. Gaddafi is nothing but a terrorist, and he was not defending his country, because it was never his to defend. He was defending the staggering amount of riches (Libya) that he, and his family stole, from the other terrorists who are trying to get thier dirty hands on it, so I say, land of the free, send us more drones.

      July 1, 2012 at 5:02 am | Reply
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  32. ken

    If you are noticing that these drones are now flown all over the world and over the U.S. . This is the beginning of Skynet.

    June 8, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      Somebody is spending too much time watching Hollywood....

      June 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Reply
    • ezekiel

      Everything has a purpose, even this article. Dont base your decisions on media propaganda. What you see is only half the truth. What about the events behind the events?. i believe there is a regime out there trying to create a third world war. This regime in all of its ways seems anti-christ. I SEE THIS ANTI-CHRIST REGIME TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD. TRYING TO ESTABLISH A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. THEY CALL IT 'THE NEW WORLD ORDER'. YOU THINK THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY LOL!. NO, THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THE CAUSE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. 'THE WHITE MANS SENSE OF FREEDOM IS AS PALE AS HIS SKIN'...

      June 8, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Reply


    June 8, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Reply
  34. sundoesntrise

    I hate to say "I told you so", but...

    I said on a certain left-wing site atheistforumsDOTcom before the no-fly zone was imposed, that this is what would eventually happen in Libya. But alas, I was ridiculed and eventually banned for schooling a bunch of ignorant liberals on something called HISTORY, something they know very little or if anything about. This is similar to us arming the mujahideen in Afghanistan and 9/11 happening years later.

    Liberals tend to ignore real-world events when it contradicts what they believe about the world. So I doubt those forum-goers will ever know or talk about what is happening right now in Libya. But one thing I do know for sure is that I was right and all you left-wing potheads can stick that in your pipe and smoke it. hehehehee

    June 8, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
    • clearick

      If you really knew what you were talking about you wouldn't use the word "Liberal" so often. It's obvious that you are a self-absorbed moron too busy tooting your own horn to stay on topic.

      June 8, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Reply
      • ezekiel

        Everything has a purpose, even this article. Dont base your decisions on media propaganda. What you see is only half the truth. What about the events behind the events?. i believe there is a regime out there trying to create a third world war. This regime in all of its ways seems anti-christ. I SEE THIS ANTI-CHRIST REGIME TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD. TRYING TO ESTABLISH A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. THEY CALL IT 'THE NEW WORLD ORDER'. YOU THINK THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY LOL!. NO, THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THE CAUSE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. 'THE WHITE MANS SENSE OF FREEDOM IS AS PALE AS HIS SKIN'... ...

        June 8, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
      • sundoesntrise


        Thanks for proving my point, you Liberals will always go on an emotional tirade in self-defence when your views are threatened and someone calls you out for your contradictory world-views. Look in the mirror and you'll see who the true self-absorbed moron here is.

        Drone Away,

        I don't listen to Glenn Beck and I'm not a right-winger either. Just because I disagree with the Libyan mission and Obama's Wars does not mean I approve of Glenn Beck, alright?

        June 9, 2012 at 10:53 am |
      • sundoesntrise

        Oh and clearick, Libya was the "new" type of "Liberal humanitarian intervention" that was touted last year as an alternative to the "old" type of wars. So maybe before you spew your mouth off like a blithering idiot, you should check to see exactly who promoted this useless and violent intervention and get your facts straight. I can say the word "Liberal" all I want because they were the main promoters of this war mongering misadventure.

        June 9, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Drone Away

      You mean twist history like Glen Beck's re-writing history tour across America? I see why you think you know so much!

      June 8, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply
    • Americal69

      hate to tell your big head but you're still not a prophet oh wise one

      June 9, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Reply
      • sundoesntrise

        I may not be a prophet but I'm still smarter than you and the average Liberal oh dumb one.

        June 28, 2012 at 1:14 am |
  35. dzbest

    hilter was killing civillians(jews) would it been ok to traget him war is not precise. if the people that we are after would not hide (like cowards) among innocents then we would not hurt civillians

    June 8, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Reply
  36. Lee Oates

    We reap what we sow. When the drones start falling on the US then we may begin to realize that death is not a video game.

    June 8, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      Nobody else in the world has them, Lee.

      June 8, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Reply
      • Americal69

        lots have them. Iran now has one of ours. bet they built one already. Americans too often make the mistake of thinking only they can turn a wrench. \\We have people living in shacks out in the woods just like they got nomadic camel herders. you might wanna soak the swelling in your head

        June 9, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
  37. GSR

    How about we close all our foreign bases, bring back all the troops, have them guard all our critical ports of entry, build a couple of refineries and start mass producing electric cars. That would create jobs, help the environment, and show everyone we could care less about their oil. Then when the value of oil drops significantly, all these oil-rich countries will have nothing. Then everyone will be crying for the US to not abandon them. Oh wait..... that won't work, most of our politicians are independently wealthy on oil investments, this idea would not work for them.....

    June 8, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
    • Mister Jones

      No thank you. I would rather have active combat operations in the Khandahar district as opposed to on Main Street somewhere in Kansas. We have foreign bases to project our borders.

      June 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  38. Lee S

    I hate to bring Israel into this , i may be opening a box I cant shut, but if they Arab world is so hell bent on the destruction of Israel and they cant even help keep their own countries in line how are they going to organize and destry them in the first place? Number one agenda of all these militias, if they ever stop killing each other will be to destroy Israel now they have access to heavy weaponry and state sponsorship. If 5 or 6 countries attacking together in 67 and 71 couldnt do it, I cant wait until they try again. Its going to be a massacre. and it wont be dead Iraelis littering the retreat trail.

    June 8, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Reply
  39. new gawker

    Let's stop messing around and drop some serious explosives on all these arabs.

    June 8, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Reply
    • KakaJ

      The western world is beginning to reap big for ousting and killing Col Gadaffi. tleat during his reign, we never heard of such things happening there. But now with all those weapons especially the shoulder held SAMs looted and in the hands of terrorists, believe me the worst is yet to happen. And I do fear for the worst.

      June 10, 2012 at 10:04 am | Reply
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  40. Lee S

    I dont think people really get it. Its our way of life, or their way of life, thats all it boils down to in the long run.

    June 8, 2012 at 11:56 am | Reply
  41. Patric a

    Destroying a country based on lies again so we can create chaos to steal their resources easier,and we have still have blind idiots who think that NATO and the US did the right thing in Libya.

    June 8, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
    • tjp44

      you use the words "blind" and "idiot" which are the perfect adjectives for you........wake you moronic liberal with lots idealisms but no mechanisms to accomplish...you are a toad

      June 8, 2012 at 11:29 am | Reply
    • Ken

      I did not support the intervention in Libya, but the fact remains that the US was benifitting from investments and resources in Libya to an unprescidented extent during the last five years of Gaddhafi's rule.

      You don't have to like the involvement (I didn't), but to say it was merely to steal resources is cynical and uninformed.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      What resources have we plundered from any country we have been at war with or against or in in the past 100 years? I hope you will repsond.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
      • tjp44

        of course she won't Lee, lots of idealisms but that's it....no substance to any of it

        June 8, 2012 at 11:42 am |
      • Fr33th1nk3r

        Well, I agree with most of your posts, LEE S, but this one I take objection to.

        Want an example? IRAQ. We did not go there seeking WMD, we went there for oil. Plain and simple. Prior to our invasion, Iraq had the world's 2nd largest petroleum reserve. But it was inaccessible to American investors because it was a state-controlled asset under Hussein. Exxon, BP, and various other American interests had their negotiators on the ground buying that oil the very same day we invaded Iraq.

        Where I differ from the silly liberals on here is that I see the strategic significance of the Iraq war. I happen to drive a gasoline powered vehicle to work everyday (as do most of the elitist libs on here I suspect), and opening the war on terror in Iraq had several beneficial effecst for America:

        1) Brought the conflict to the middle east, as opposed to fighting terrorists in our backyards.
        2) Drew the enemy's attacks away from the civilian populace.
        3) projection of our borders
        4) Sent a clear message to the Muslim world
        5) Gave US investors access to Iraq's oil.
        6) Thinned out some 30% of Al-Queda's numbers

        June 8, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
      • sherman

        ooo ooo I know! you can't look at the surface and say – the US did not prosper from resources under the ground of any country we have been in. The oil companies are global in scope. do they have us citizens employed? yes they do. I wish the race to denude the planet were not so bloody. This is not the Indy 500 of survival fellas. It need not be. You should all be farming and building not bombing and destroying. what did the other article say "tipping point." – my turn to say I told you so. but no one ever listens to me.

        June 8, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • TJ

      Patric a – Your opinion or do you have some unique qualifications that make you an expert on this subject? Maybe you are just smarter than everyone else or have thousands of more highly educated advisors and intel people keeping you up to speed on the situation than the rest of us. You are the problem.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:46 am | Reply
  42. Tom Clark

    Team Amerika world police. Creating new enemies around the world to justify military profiteering. SAD! Congress can't take care of busines at home but knows what'a best for the reast of the world?

    June 8, 2012 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • hez316

      So are saying our President, the Commander in Chief, supports the supposed evil "military industrial complex"?

      June 8, 2012 at 11:26 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      All the weapons we used inL Libya were bought and paid for already. its not like we developed anything new to go into Libya.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:59 am | Reply
  43. Freedom Fascist

    Appears George Orwell was right, 2012 just turned to 1984...you're going to be sorry citizens, soon these drones will be destroying al-Qaeda bases right here at home (won't take much for you to believe they exist, you are just that stupid).

    "Freedom for all the people, brave, true and strong!
    Freedom for all the people, unless Amerika thinks you're wrong!"

    June 8, 2012 at 11:00 am | Reply
    • TJ

      And you are just stupid!

      June 8, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      Can I look into your cystal ball for a sec? I got one quick thing I need to know.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      No, m0ron. The reason for thesde drone attacks overseas is to project our borders and keep the conflict focused away from the civilian populace.

      Americans are spoiled stupid....(at least the ones who name themselves "Freedom Facist").

      June 8, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Reply
  44. hubert39

    Heck, the USA has been spying on all nations since the 1950's. We are always looking for a good war.
    We would attack Canada, or Great Britain is the Military Industial Complex could make money.
    The USA thrives on wars.

    June 8, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      Well since we are going into all these wars for oil why havent we attacked canada? They are our number one supplier of oil.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
  45. SowNreapM

    What is Big brother doing to this world? When will you learn that it is YOU who creates. Terrorist?? Murderer's? The very basis of this system is designed to destroy the world, greed, lust, cold hearted dealing for selfishness..How can you expect a better outcome when people struggle for the right to live!! We are all created equal in this world it must be shared! If the economy recovers how does the that help the children of the future? Is the world being prepared to support 10 or 15 billion people? This is what a system based on the worst of human emotions delivers and we see the worst of humanity emerging! Forgive them for they know not what they do! Who will save this World?

    June 8, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
    • clearick

      Nobody wants to save the world. This is two opposing philosophies, both foreign to Libya, one the Jihadists and the other the West. Both are promoting their self interests, but the Jihadists are no better and have no idea how to build a society. Building a society takes hard work and it is never-ending. it is best to leave it up to the Libyans, which is what were doing by targeting foreign thugs there.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:59 am | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      WHy is it the United States' responsibility to "pave the way for the future"? As a soveriegn nation, we have every right to protect our interests, at home and abroad.

      Why are you complaining? if you live here, you are reaping the benefits of the dirty work being done by groups like the CIA and FBI....

      June 8, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Reply
  46. clearick

    On the one hand I have a problem with the Us interfering with another countries politics, but in this case, the people they are after are not even Libyans. The real question is which group will do the best for the Libyan people. Jihadists never build anything and their radical views alienate populations. Anyone who's only mode is death and destruction will lead an empty fruitless life.

    June 8, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
    • Patric a

      Let me guess,you have been to Libya on many occasions,that,s how you know that they are not Libyans,then again you might know,since it is NATO government who brought armed them to kill Gaddafi.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:07 am | Reply
      • clearick

        You obviously DIDN'T READ THE STORY. Which indicated that these people were NOT Libyans!

        June 8, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • Lee S

      @patricia, have you been there? Can you verify they are not? You look more ridiculous than anyone on this board and you think you are too smart. that is hilarious.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply
      • TJ

        Lee S – AMEN. All of your comments have been on the mark.

        June 8, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • sundoesntrise

      You mean to say there are no armed Salafists in Libya? Because of our warmongering, these terrorist camps now exist. Thank your lord Obama for that one, idiot.

      June 28, 2012 at 1:16 am | Reply
  47. GBucello

    Libya may well be facing a key turning point as far as terrorism is concerned – it’s a shame that the country is still too unstable to deal with the threat. They have to first sort out any issues concerning factional infighting before they can confront terrorism, and it seems as though the United States cannot afford to wait that long. http://bit.ly/LIINCo

    June 8, 2012 at 10:06 am | Reply
  48. Everett Wallace


    June 8, 2012 at 10:01 am | Reply
  49. popseal

    Don't let SEN . DIANE FEINSTEIN know about this. Just as she ratted out the Predator base in Pakistan. she'll do the same against this one. Now she is crying about LEAKS like the monumental hypocrite that she is.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:42 am | Reply
  50. Iluvtheusa2day

    Better a drone in the air than boots on the ground. Way to go!

    June 8, 2012 at 9:40 am | Reply
  51. southern_gent_from_mississippi

    Thats what happens when you have a morally and financially bankrupt nation trying to impose its will on the rest of the world. I really cant think of ANY country where weve overthrown the regime and installed new government and they DIDNT quickly become our newest enemy and a training ground for anti-american warriors. Maybe our masters (china) needs to start reigning in our leaders or tightening the purse strings.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
  52. How it would have been

    "Abdulbasit Azuz, had complained that a drone strike had targeted his training camp in the east of Libya."

    If this were true, there would be no training camp.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:22 am | Reply
  53. george

    Drones over Libya? We don't know what you're talking about.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
  54. George Patton

    Why does this not surprise me? It seems like these cursed drones are everywhere these days like a bad dream! We had no business getting into Libya in the first place and now look at what's happening!!!

    June 8, 2012 at 8:51 am | Reply
  55. BillD

    A better question is where AREN'T we fying drones?

    June 8, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
    • WWJeffD

      Much Better Question – Why aren't we flying Drones in Heavy rotation in Syria?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
      • jb

        Answer: Air defense assests.

        June 8, 2012 at 9:57 am |
  56. jim

    Short memories I see!! Libya asked for help if you remember correctly. They were actally wondering why it took so long for the no fly zone. Let's just balme the US like always. Jeez!

    June 8, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      Yup, remember the AU said for the west to stay out at first and they would handle it? That was hilarious. Then they all blame us when we come in per their request, again. We really have no business there, keep tabs on them and send a few heelfires in every once and a while if they get all antsy.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:46 am | Reply
  57. David Crandall

    Definition of a "Muslim": bomb making thugs with AK-47s hell bent on murder, hatred and violence. Muslim fundamentalism is fast becoming the chief threat to global peace and security as well as a cause of national and local disturbance through terrorism. It is akin to the menace posed by Nazism and fascism in the 1930s and then by communism in the ‘50s.

    June 8, 2012 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • jrh

      Sounds a lot like the definition of a "Christian"

      June 8, 2012 at 9:10 am | Reply
      • Your camel is calling for you

        Nice try, Paki.

        June 8, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • tjp44

      yes, drone them to death!!!!

      June 8, 2012 at 11:31 am | Reply
  58. Pat

    Of course I and everyone I know do not support terror likewise sorry I can not support murder as that is exactly what our drones are doing in several counties. To my knowledge no one has appointed us as executioners and it is likely our actions are counter-productive

    June 8, 2012 at 8:27 am | Reply
    • Richard

      Ask Obama about his 'KILL LIST'!

      June 8, 2012 at 9:07 am | Reply
    • George Patton

      Thank you, Pat. I agree. I too hate this needless brutality.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:15 am | Reply
    • The sand misses your head

      Nobody cares what you do or do not support. Drone strikes have rid the planet of countless terrorists and they'll continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
      • BosMonkey


        They've already said they plan on attacking America. Why not strike first and take them out? I don't like our troops being used but drones with good intel – I am all for it – against terrorists.

        June 8, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • clearick

      I don't see it that way at all, both the Jihadists and the US are in a fight that has been going on for years. Both want to see Libya on their side. If foreign jihadists- not Libyans, mind you, but foreigners are coming into Libya with the intent to use force against the Libyan people, we're doing them a great service! Let the Libyans handle their own affairs and keep the violence to a minimum.

      Just figure out which side you want to be on. Both sides kill. But the US believes in Democracy, the other side just wants to be in charge no matter what.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:54 am | Reply
      • sundoesntrise

        You obviously didn't READ the article which stated that Derna and Eastern Libya has always been extremist in nature; we activated that extremism when we bombed Libya to pieces last year.

        "According to a source in touch with jihadist militants in eastern Libya, there are indications the group has roots in the Derna area." – What part of that don't you understand RETARD???

        You are obviously quite deluded to be so wrong when it comes to the facts but to be at the same time an idiot who thinks he knows everything.

        June 28, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • tjp44

      did you idiots forget 911....we owe it to the victims to destroy Al Queada(hope I spelled it wrong) worldwide....grow a spine and stand up!

      June 8, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      Meanwhile, the reality is that PAT is sitting comfortably in his living room, typiing his idealistic posts from the safety of a developed nation, thanks mostly to the dirty work being done overseas by the CIA, FBI, and military to ensure the war against terror stays off shore, as opposed to fighting it in our backyards.

      June 8, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Reply
  59. gliese42

    The same fate will happen to us if we get involved in Syria

    June 7, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Reply
  60. Paul

    Miss Gaddaffi yet?

    June 7, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Reply
    • 12

      Hope Al-Kaida will tear them up. Dumb idiots don't deserve to live.

      June 8, 2012 at 7:12 am | Reply
      • tjp44

        let's meet so we can tear you up traitor....your disgusting

        June 8, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  61. Dennis

    Thank you for the confirmation that it hurt as much as we thought.

    June 7, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Reply
  62. Zoglet

    Just perfect- the US leads teh charge to depose Gadaffi- Al Qaeda move into the vacuum caused by his parties collapse and now the US gives itself the right to bring the drones in.
    You couldnt invent this!
    Serious question- when is the US going to come clean on its intentions to rule the world?

    June 7, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Reply
    • Not_playing_fair

      No, don't even, damn Troll. The US did NOT lead the Libyan 'charge'. As usual, everyone demanded the US do something then was angry when we did 'something'. Libya was liberated and if it chooses to run itself into the ground, that's what THEY chose to do with their new found freedom. What you are advocating is the US hold everyone's hand like a child learning to pee.

      June 8, 2012 at 6:37 am | Reply
      • 12

        It was attacked not liberated. It was not occupied so it could not be liberated dumb american.

        June 8, 2012 at 7:19 am |
      • tjp44

        "dumb american" huh 12....f off, your half life could be very very short......like your unit!

        June 8, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • jrh

      Rule the world? We can't even wipe our own butts, how the he** are we going to rule the world? Are you serious?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:10 am | Reply
    • Lee S

      Wouldnt we start with Mexicxo and Canada? They are really close and its where we get most of our oil from anyway. Where do you even come up with this stuff? You must have put a lot of things up your butt when you were a kid.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
  63. Lol

    Lol, just lol. I hope you people who advocated for intervention in Libya are proud of yourselves. You've endangered the lives of people in this country, LOL, just lol.

    June 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Reply
    • jrh

      You can't possibly be serious?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
    • Pat Hendrickson

      You are stupid.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:07 am | Reply
    • Lol

      The comment was meant to be satirical in order to emphasize the stupidity of the Libyan intervention. The particular rhetoric I used was not to reflect my intelligence, but to show by example the laughable (and predictable) outcome of this conflict. Tell me you two, do you still support the Libyan intervention, knowing that al-Qaeda has a firmly established presence there? Surely you realize that Islamic extremist groups are the most established opposition groups in Libya, and that Libya's civil war was not the result of liberal democratic protest, but a thirst for an Islamic caliphate similar to the dictatorships of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

      June 8, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Reply
      • Americal69

        nothing new there. the Libyans have been a large force in Al Quaida forever. mostly because of poverty. the big guy they just killed was Libyan

        June 9, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Henintsoa

      News Flash: Muslim brotherhood tkinag control of Egypt, Libya is next. Obama is aiding in the demise of the United States by using his authority to empower the Muslim Brotherhood. Soon he and his Muslim brothers will tighten the screws on the flow of oil even more. Impeach him now!

      August 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
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