By Bill Mears
CIA secret interrogation methods - including detention and harsh questioning of suspected terrorists - remain off limits to public release, a federal appeals court ruled Monday.
The agency was sued eight years ago to provide details of certain communications describing the use of waterboarding and other direct intelligence-gathering methods of foreign terror suspects. A three-judge panel from the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled "intelligence methods" are not subject to a Freedom of Information Act request from the lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.
"We give substantial weight to the government's declarations, which establish that disclosing the redacted portions of the (secret memos) would reveal the existence and scope of a highly classified, active intelligence activity," said the judges.
The CIA has admitted as part of the lawsuit it destroyed videotaped interrogations of "high-value" terror suspects Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The alleged members of the al Qaeda terror network are being held overseas, including most recently at the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba.
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The CIA is a group of above the law. I doubt they got any worthy intel from toture. I don't really know of anything they did good except in building UAV technology. The CIA miserably failed there mandate on collecting good intel and assisting the military on protecting the country. They were wrong about many things and yes the list is a long one. I wonder if the CIA has a code of conduct? I hate to paint the organization this way but the farm is producing a lot of bad apples who are in it for themselves and its making the honorable CIA officers look really bad. Maybe its thier community culture. No dis-respect to the CIA officers who care about doing thier jobs lawfully. How can we fix these problems? Congress can use their checks and balances against the judical and executive to prosecute or nullify(defund) CIA employees and associates. They are a the mercy of Congress. We dont owe that organization nothing. Produce results. Its not a right to work at the CIA. Its a privlege. Gotta be crafty on this one b/c the Iran-Contra congressional hearings really didnt work. Made Col North into a hero in the United States. IDK....any ideas? Maybe congress can over ride the judical decision with article 3 section 2 paragraph 2. In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellateJurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make. this is Congress power to overide supreme court decisions. Im sure this can be applied to any federal courts. its just an idea..any info would be grat..keep it civil...thanks
Naiive fools! Do you really think this country hasn't had state secrets for the last 200 years? Or that somehow, interrogation methods suddenly evolved into something more sinister than they were; or that we just started using them?
You berate the military and run down the intelligence community for behaving in a way you think, in your limited world experience, is somehow immoral. You are appalled when you learn that this is not the Pollyanna world you thought it was.
But.....you don't hesitate to avail yourselves of the freedom this country provides, including the freedom to disagree. You forget who's got your back while you trash those who are protecting you for the way they do it. What do you think your comments would get in you, say China, or Pakistan? Better yet, why don't you sign up for a tour of duty over there and earn some credibility before you decide that you own the moral compass for this nation.
Naiive fools. Do you actually believe that we haven't had 'state secrets' for the last 200 years? Do you really think that interrogation has somehow evolved into something more evil than it used to be, or that we just started using it? You berate the government for its methods and you are appalled when you realize this is not the Pollyanna world you thought it was.
But.....you don't hesitate to enjoy the freedoms of this country, including the freedom to disagree. You forget who's got your back while you're running down the military or the intelligence community. Think about what your comments would get you in China; or maybe Pakistan. Better yet, why don't you do a tour of duty over there and earn a little credibility before you decide that this is an evil empire.
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Did someone say leaks?
What have we become as a nation...wow...I simply can't believe how far we've fallen from the idealism of our Founding Fathers.
Time for some WikiLeaks perhaps?