A user's guide to the Chicago NATO summit
May 17th, 2012
02:00 AM ET

A user's guide to the Chicago NATO summit

Editor's note: Read all of Security Clearance's coverage of the 2012 NATO summit in Chicago

By Mike Mount

This year's NATO summit in Chicago is the biggest one ever, with some 60 countries expected to be in attendance and a host of issues crammed into two short days of meetings.

It is coming at a time when the alliance is under stress, with pressure to wrap up a war in Afghanistan, member countries with dwindling money reserves trying to help finance Afghanistan as it prepares to stand on its own, and questions on how strong the alliance really is in terms of its capabilities.

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While only two days long, the summit will entail a number of complex meetings and discussions that will not unfold in front of TV cameras for all to see.

The meetings will take place in a large, highly secured convention hall outside downtown Chicago. So to help you sift through the bureaucratic talk that will be coming, we here at Security Clearance have put together a handy guide to navigating the NATO summit.

What's the point?

What does NATO really need to get out of this summit? It depends on what side of the ocean you are on. The Europeans will be looking at their pocketbooks and hammering out how they can pool resources and improve their military capabilities as they spend less on their militaries.

But, as the primary leader in the war in Afghanistan, the United States needs to have the alliance come together and hammer out details on what it wants the future of Afghanistan to look like.

The strategic partnership agreement signed by Afghanistan and the United States last month was nothing more than an outline, and U.S. officials have said they will use the summit to start defining what they want this relationship to look like.

As the 2014 deadline for the war in Afghanistan to end draws nearer, the United States and NATO need to use these two days to figure out how a post-NATO Afghanistan will look and how it will be paid for.

2014 and beyond

As U.S. President Barack Obama moves away from a counterinsurgency plan, the United States and NATO believe that the key for Afghanistan's success is to have a strong Afghan military and police force, neither of which is very strong at the moment. In order to build a stronger and more capable force, a good number of trainers will have to continue to work inside Afghanistan. You might be surprised at the number of U.S. troops left in Afghanistan for years to come, depending on the final number of Afghan security forces that will be put into place.

Also, keep an eye out for the number of actual U.S. troops that will be left to hunt Taliban and al Qaeda. That number, too, still has to be decided and will involve negotiations with the Afghan government, which is not keen on keeping actual combat troops within its borders.

The Afghan troop numbers game

As of now the top military commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, says they are assuming Afghan military and police forces will total 352,000 personnel. Others have suggested around 275,000 or 250,000. The final number may come down to how much it will cost to maintain such a force for the country and how much commitment money the United States will get from its NATO allies and partner countries.

The number of Afghan security forces will also be a factor in the decision on how many U.S. troops will remain in country to train those security forces.

No tote bags, but pledges needed

One of the priorities for the United States will be to start pressuring member countries to kick in for what will be a multibillion-dollar economic plan. The bill could be at least $4 billion per year and the United States could put in about a quarter or as much as a half of that total. About 23 NATO partner nations have also pledged to donate. But while purse strings are being tightened in this world of austerity, the United States would like to see NATO members put in their fair share.

Pakistan ... the problem and solution

Now that it has been invited to the NATO meeting, Pakistan is under pressure to reopen the supply lines into Afghanistan. The first step to watch is if Pakistan will accept the invitation to the conference.

NATO is not really the crowd Pakistan wants to be around because discussions will almost certainly surround the lack of security in Pakistan's western tribal regions, where Taliban and al Qaeda militants hide and feed insurgents and weapons into Afghanistan.

However, look for more details to come out on Pakistan agreeing to more military operations in the border area.

Missile defense, Moscow takes offense

Outside of Afghan talks, the other hot topic will be the continued push to build up missile defense systems around Europe to protect from a ballistic missile attack from Iran, something Russia is vehemently opposed to.

U.S. officials have already said they do not expect a deal with Moscow this year, and Moscow is still pushing for an agreement by NATO that ensures the missile system would not be used against its missiles, something the United States and NATO will not do.

If NATO announces the placement of more systems around Europe, look for a blistering response from Moscow, which is already threatening arming its borders to counter, what it perceives as, a threat to its nuclear missile deterrent.

Damascus dilemma

While NATO has said there will be no Libya-style intervention in Syria because there is no legal authority, expect some conversations about Syria to take place even though it is not officially on the agenda.

Because Turkey is part of NATO, and it has some legitimate concerns along its border with Syria, Turkey could start to put heavy pressure on the alliance to make some kind of move. It is a long shot, but look to see if there are discussions on whether a NATO force could be created to protect safe havens along the Turkey-Syrian border.

The NATO facebook

New French President Francois Hollande: The new socialist leader will be attending his first head-of-state NATO conference just days into his job. Early thoughts, based on what he has said as a candidate, could be that he will remove French troops from Afghanistan earlier than his predecessor was planning - as early as the end of this year, not in 2013.

It is not clear if he will go through with that plan, but it is worth keeping an eye on him to see how he builds his new NATO relationships, or not - especially if he announces while in Chicago that he is pulling his troops early.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari: While it has already been announced by the White House that Obama and Zardari will not meet in the Chicago summit if the Pakistani leader shows up, that does not mean Zardari will be sidelined. He knows that NATO members, especially the United States, will tread lightly in public so as to not irritate the Afghan neighbor, especially if the Pakistani government is still deliberating whether to open the crucial NATO supply lines.

Zardari could also take advantage of the United States stepping on diplomatic eggshells and make some public demands on NATO and the United States. But he has to show up to do that.

Russian President Vladimir Putin: Some analysts believe that Putin is not sincere in his saying he decided not to attend the Chicago summit because he has to assemble a new government, especially as the new French leader will come days after his first day on the job.

The real excuses could be that as the key to al-Assad's ouster, he does not want to face tough issues on Syria, and that he does not have much assistance to offer the West on Iran. He will be leaving that job to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, who will be attending in his stead.

But expect the stone-faced but fiery leader to blast NATO from afar on its European missile defense program, which he believes is threatening his country's nuclear deterrent.

U.S. Gen. John Allen, commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan: Allen, who has overseen the transition from counterinsurgency operations to the new train-and-equip strategy in Afghanistan, has also voiced concern about withdrawing troops too quickly over the final two years.

But Allen could be getting a promotion. U.S. officials tell CNN the president is expected to nominate Allen in early 2013 to lead U.S. European Command and to be the supreme allied commander of NATO.

An announcement could be made as early as in Chicago that Allen will be moved from his Kabul post. The move would keep Allen involved in Afghanistan, through NATO, but make room for a commander more suited to the shift to counterterrorism and special operations.

Allen also gets to have some fun. He's scheduled to throw a ceremonial pitch at a Chicago Cubs home game during the summit.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai: Karzai will leave office in 2014, the same year all U.S. combat forces are due out. He has been a thorn in the side of the United States for years now, but don't expect a victory dance from the United States or NATO when Karzai's time is up.

He undoubtedly will ensure the United States and NATO will not walk all over him in his final two years by leaving his mark on the ongoing strategic partnership agreement negotiations.

soundoff (504 Responses)


    May 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Reply
  2. riaz ahmad

    Nato, pakistan and Afghanistan,a triangle in post 9/11,counter terrorism drama.pakistan sacrificed so much,its troops,its economý,natìonal dignity,but only to hear 'Do More'

    May 20, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
    • Nadaf

      Pakistan is playing a double game here. On one hand they allegedly fighting hardliners and on the other they are hiding and financing Al- Qaeda (in Waziristan) and the Taliban (in Quetta). Their so called fake fight against extremists is a way to get billions of dollors from the west. Most of those money goes to Mr.10%.

      May 20, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Reply
      • Chadwick Fabuss

        Pakistan is playing games because they want to start construction of the Iran-Pakistan-India Pipeline. Unfortunately, it ends in Karachi which is exactly where the U.S. Supply Routes begin.

        As Hilary Clinton stated, "“As we are ratcheting up pressure on Iran, it seems somewhat inexplicable that Pakistan would be trying to negotiate a pipeline,” the secretary said. “And there is an alternative that we do strongly support — the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline.”

        May 21, 2012 at 12:24 am |
    • Justice

      A nation, whose current President (Zardari) would get rid of his politician wife, ie assassinate her, to get to power...A country where the concept of "Taliban" started, where corruption was always the foundation of the young nation, where it served as a host to Bin Laden...HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THE US TRUST SUCH A COUNTRY??? Pakistan is the root of all problems of that region. Unless Pakistan is taken care of, Afghanistan will never see peace. Pakistan says one thing, but does the other...we have all been witness to that!

      May 20, 2012 at 10:21 pm | Reply
  3. Troops Home Now

    The Trillion dollars a year has been wasted for the pleasure of the neocons who want us to continue fighting other people's wars in the Middle Wast. The arms, legs, eyes, and minds lost by over 50,000 of America's bravest young men have been for nothing. The longer we stay there the more waste there will be. Troops home now!

    May 20, 2012 at 4:31 am | Reply
  4. Vince Carter

    So Putin couldn't come to the party. Okay. Moving right along.

    May 20, 2012 at 2:34 am | Reply
  5. lovemygirl

    I survived the summit by working from home.

    May 20, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
    • Durgabhavani

      I confess, I put my hand up to the introuctisns to use the lift, I always end up pressing both when I'm in a rush. Nothing like a bit of a warning on paper to make you look silly.

      July 31, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Reply
  6. DNfamousKZ

    Never have I seen such ignorance... all of you should learn spelling and grammar, or NOT be allowed to write, even a word, in this comment section. 95 percent of these comments have been a waste and pointless use of my time. Go back to school people! Maybethen you guys would make sense or even have capable comment. This iswhy freedom of speech is ALWAYS an issue; its always misused on ignorant rants and other pointless comments.... sad...

    May 20, 2012 at 12:39 am | Reply
    • lovemygirl

      Umm, just check you post before whining. Just a hint.

      May 20, 2012 at 3:45 am | Reply
      • asmcsn

        He missed the space bar a couple of times. It doesn't take away from the truth that most Americans are dolts.

        May 20, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Hypocrisy wants you to shut up...

      "Maybethen you guys would make sense or even have capable comment. This iswhy freedom of speech is ALWAYS an issue; its always misused on ignorant rants and other pointless comments.... sad..."

      LOL wtf? It always cracks me up when hypocrisy does the very thing it complains about...

      May 20, 2012 at 10:45 am | Reply
      • Braveheart

        Haha yea the problem with common sense is....it is not very common. Ron Paul?

        May 20, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
  7. Windy

    Do you remember the Olympics, when Putin left the city, consumed with events and the world eyed on the Games. He went back to Russia and order a military strike on neighbouring country. His stand for al- Assad is not Assad's black eyes, we all know that,. He want's Russia's present in the region. He prey on Turkey, but he won't dare.

    May 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Reply
  8. ClemVinson

    NATO... the north american terrorist organization is simply an embarassment and one of the leading barriers to achieving the end of american hatred overseas. if we were really concerned about ending war and creating peace we should spend a few of those billions on food, clothing, and shelter for the war-torn civilians. Maybe then we could free up some of those other billions on revamping our own decimated infrastructure. Increase our tax base with a return to american manufacturing, and make this country solvent again. But, none of that is actually the goal, now is it? Fear and terror should not be our foreign or domestic policy, but here we are... sigh...

    May 19, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Reply
    • lovemygirl

      Ok Goober.

      May 19, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Reply
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    May 19, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Reply
  10. Greg Baddick

    Greg Baddick will use this well. Lol

    May 19, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Reply
  11. Jaimie

    To much stress

    May 19, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Reply
  12. a disgrace

    obama asked the g-8 for a loan and was told when the country elects a president tell him to come see us!

    May 19, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Reply
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  14. islamisvile

    STOP Turkey's illegal occupation of Cyprus!

    May 19, 2012 at 9:32 am | Reply
    • Windy

      In 1974 the Greek Cyproits were the one that asked, they almost cry for it, going door to door and executing Turkish Cyproits and got exactly what they have asked. What you were thinking?! Be careful what you pray for. Greek Cyproits prayers were answered. Do not try to favor Greeks based on religion. All man are created equal, or, are they not!

      May 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Reply
    • Dianne

      Greek Cypriots removed rights of Turkish Cypriots from the constitution and started massacring them in an effort to push them off of Cyprus to make the entire island Greek and unite with mainland Greece. The guarantor states (Greece, Turkey, UK) had the right to intervene in such circumstances and Turks naturally did not watch its people get massacred nextdoor, Turkey peacefully decided to invade 1/3 of the island which correspond to Turkish Cypriot population to provide safe haven. Turks could have easily taken the entire island, which they didn't do because they didn't have any such agenda, Greeks caused the status change on the island.

      This being the case, the entire world knew what took place, so Greeks kept quiet for the longest time since they were the faulty side and not at all in a position to complain. After it got forgotten, they started spreading lies and propaganda and acting like the victims.. and been accusing Turkey of invading for no reason ever since.

      Anybody that is aware of history takes side with Turkey and the Turks. Only clueless and prejudiced/biased people side with Greeks. Any other nation in Turkey's place would have done the same or more, and that fact alone puts a conclusion to this argument. There was a UN peace plan to unite the island within the decade, which Turks voted yes but Greeks voted no because they do not wish to share the island.. after which, once again, the entire world saw how Greeks are the ones creating the issues and blocking peace efforts. Words are cheap, go post your hatred driven random nonsense elsewhere.

      May 20, 2012 at 5:00 am | Reply
  15. islamisvile

    All moslems must be made to feel shame for their vile ideology of islam just as Germans were shamed for their vile ideology of nazism. All moslems must be strongly encouraged to find a better path for themselves. islam is vile. Defenders of islam are either ignorant or malicious.

    May 19, 2012 at 9:31 am | Reply

      Only by hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, denire of truth absolute, hindu, criminal does not belong to civility but in hindu temple, dungen of hinduism, illegality called Jail.

      May 19, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
    • edeltrut

      That seems a rather narrow minded bit of rhetoric, and the word is Muslim.

      May 19, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Reply
    • Windy

      So sadden that Christ went on the cross and suffered for a sinner like you.Your comments make me think, that you do not know you Creator at all. You are stucked in your own dead end road.

      May 20, 2012 at 12:10 am | Reply
    • Dianne

      Yes. Islam is vile. But. Also. Christianity is vile. Judaism is vile. Any religion is vile. And forget about it all. You, as the ugliest creature on earth surface, is the most vile being. Humanity should not have your kind.

      May 20, 2012 at 5:03 am | Reply
  16. islamisvile

    The vile ideology of islam is a crime against all humanity.

    May 19, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
    • Dianne

      Carry your propaganda elsewhere, world needs less of you hateful people who create division and polarization among humankind to benefit from it. You are shameless creatures who should be detected early and aborted for peace.

      May 20, 2012 at 4:50 am | Reply
      • asmcsn

        Some people will believe what they are told to believe. This applies as much to the attackers of religions as the religious themselves. Neither group tends to have much of a hold on the truth as they like to believe.

        May 20, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  17. islamisvile

    Time to boot Turkiye from NATO and Cyprus.

    May 19, 2012 at 9:25 am | Reply
    • Dianne

      As a Greek, you are the last person on earth surface to talk about booting. You have shown the entire world what you are made of, Greeks (of Greece and Cyprus) are the ones that will get booted out of EU. Turkey is a major power, it has the second largest military presence in NATO and it's one of the few contributing members. You insignificant bankrupt beggar Greeks are not at all in a position to criticize anyone, Turks are superior to you in every way.

      May 20, 2012 at 4:48 am | Reply
  18. BCohio

    Obammy and the Fools going to let Iran have Nukes and Then TRY to deal with them!... Yah Right!...What Fools!..

    May 19, 2012 at 9:07 am | Reply
    • GetReal

      President Obama has enlisted the cooperation of other world leders to impose the most severe sanctions against Iran, ever. Without oil exports, Iran will pay severe penalties for persuing a path towards nuclear weaponry. Now, Iran wants to negotiate.
      President Obama is also doing our country a great service by holding other countries accountable for paying their fair share of the expense for ridding the world of terrorism. By achieving multilateral support, we save money and lives, while generating good relations that makes our country less of a target.

      May 20, 2012 at 2:19 am | Reply
  19. John Green

    Pakistan is the home for all terrorists in the world. ISI is getting money not only from United States but all Muslim fenatics around the Arab countries. The fire Pakistan statrted with Taliban to burn Afghanistan is now burning in Pakistan cities. United States and west should force Pakistasn to fight against terrorists which Pakistan created them and then there would be peace and prosperity in the world.

    May 19, 2012 at 6:48 am | Reply
  20. brown

    Keep on re-electing the incompetent fools in Congress. Never in our history has so much harm been
    done to our country yet the voice of its citizenry is silence. Americans deserve the coming harse future.

    May 19, 2012 at 12:58 am | Reply
    • BCohio

      Want to talk about Fools!, Lets talk About Reid and The Demorat Senate!...1120 Days Without putting up a Budget!... Talk About DO NOTHING!...

      May 19, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
      • GetReal

        I used to wonder about why we don't have a budget. Then, I found out that the budget would be submitted to a line item veto. That's when the GOTP vetos all of the Dem expenditures and passes all of the GOTP spending.
        Under those conditions, why would the Dems want to present the GOTP with a bipartisan budget? It is nothing more than a political trap within our broken system.

        May 20, 2012 at 2:37 am |
  21. Marco Hsiao

    to build up missile defense systems around Europe to protect from a ballistic missile attack from Iran

    Even 12 years old children know this is illogical.

    May 18, 2012 at 11:33 pm | Reply
    • GetReal

      Missile defense systems were already deployed along eastern Europe, against the Soviet Union, during the cold war. But, newer systems are being deployed to protect Europe from a possible dirty missile attack from Iran. That's got Putin's knickers in a twist. Of course, Obama is trying to defuse the issue by sending a subtle message for him to chill out.

      May 20, 2012 at 2:30 am | Reply
  22. Marco Hsiao

    [ Why was the big NATO meeting held? ]

    Certainly bin Laden did not kill by the US, where is the body, photos or video? It is lie to cheat the US citizens. The logistics between NATO and Taliban is 100:1 but NATO could not win, why?

    The US military violence kills more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilian, 30,000 innocent civilian are also killed by the US in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya; why Afghan could trust the US? If now a referendum in Afghanistan is held, who would be favored by local Afghan, NATO or Taliban? Possibly it is 21:52. More than half Afghan people support Taliban.

    The world is moving to peace and prosperity. (The sick US media always only emphasize foreign disaster, unrest, killing and scandal which have misled the strategy.) In 2012, the US Federal debt is exceeding US$ 16 trillion! The military budget must be cut. The US treasury is approaching to bankruptcy. Why was the big NATO meeting held? Prompt the US military budget (let US treasury to bankrupt in 2019)?

    May 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm | Reply
    • GetReal

      Read the article. It answers all of your questions. It even breaks down all of the issues they will be discussing, just for you.
      Read the article.

      May 20, 2012 at 3:00 am | Reply
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  24. sez

    Here I have a question for the NATO wolfpack fatheads. That don't think anyone is paying attention. The issue is strip mining and who gave you the rights to strip mine? Some don't take that personally. I do. All in there again wolfpack style carving up the earth. Most everyone knows it now. Communications are so drab and slow compared to human sense and the way things are really carried. You can fool some of the people. Then again you can make a lot of people really angry. Get out of there.

    May 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Reply
  25. Andrey

    That is bollocks! "Russian President Vladimir Putin: Some analysts believe that Putin is not sincere in his saying he decided not to attend the Chicago summit because he has to assemble a new government, especially as the new French leader will come days after his first day on the job." Putin was never intended to take part in Chicago meeting! He has refused to go to Camp David meeting – which is not quite the same! Am I right or am I right?
    And of course he has got more important things to do than going to Camp David to listen to all that Greece and Euro crap! Let French new leader have it! 🙂

    May 18, 2012 at 9:57 am | Reply
  26. T-Bone Thakur

    Keep an eye on fast the Indian Occupied Kashmir problem gets solved by 2014 !!! Small price to pay by india

    May 17, 2012 at 9:50 am | Reply
  27. John Henry

    Egos aside, there can be no solution to Afghanistan without Pakistan's involvement. Even after that the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan needs to be fenced off at any cost as there can be no permanent solution without this fence. So people giddyup. We have wasted over 10 years and could have completed this by now.

    May 17, 2012 at 9:47 am | Reply
  28. krm1007

    Since Sep 11, 2001, 21,672 Pakistani civilians have lost their lives or have been seriously injured in the war against terror.

    The Pakistani Army also has lost 2,795 soldiers while 8,671 soldiers have been wounded. More than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost $68 billion due to terrorism.

    For the past 30+ years Pakistan has been taking care of over 3 million Afghan refugees. They still are being cared for by Pakistan !!!!!!

    Despite sacrifices, Pakistan was still engaged in 'the war for world peace”.


    May 17, 2012 at 7:43 am | Reply
    • Nellore Venkataraman

      To krm 1007:
      Same posting every time 24/7 whenever the word India is mentioned.

      May 18, 2012 at 9:56 am | Reply
      • High Beta

        Pardon my ignorance but is India a name of a condom?

        May 18, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • rk

      hahhaha..paki pm is now gonna get roundly slapped by US and NATO at the meet....and threatened further ..for being the hub of WORLD TERROR...

      May 18, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
      • Patrick

        In the light of the Guardian report and today's acaosctiun that one of ours over there is a murderer, shouldn't we be asking, do our troops in Afganistan represent Canadian values in ANY way ?Has even ONE of our Canadian military stepped out of his self-interest zone to condemn ANY aspect of what he sees in Afghanistan?CBC, CTV and Global would scramble to interview even ONE soldier going public about Canada's shame.No, it hasn't happened. Far from it.They are signing up instead for third and fourth tours of duty (translation: making a bundle, smashing things and killing people).Even USA has former military personnel risking their asses by refusing to go back, protesting to the world about US military misconduct in Iraq.Not Canada.And we have conveniently forgotten Somalia.The ones I want to support in Afghanistan are the real heroes, the medics trying to cope with the disasters created by our troops .

        August 1, 2012 at 6:25 am |
      • VaLe

        I disagree with an aioumptssn here; I think it IS economics which produces terrorists. But it is not the economics of poverty, it is the economics of the useless well-off. In oil "rental" or military-controlled societies, there is nothing to occupy or inspire the educated young, and the thoughts of the middle-class young male turn to apocalyptic glory. Beats sitting on your ass waiting for Daddy to die.

        August 3, 2012 at 1:02 am |
    • rk

      who tol d you pak is a country..??? no other 'country' is on a freefall since it was created, no other'country' gets roundly slapped by all countries for being hub of world terror, no ohter' country' surives on begging, no ohter'country' has its GDP and export as Terror....PAK IS GATEWAY TO OBLIVION..SOON IT WILL BE OFF THE WORLD MAP....

      May 18, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Reply
      • High Beta

        Pak? What is that? Are you referring to Pakistan? The country that is being invited to The Chicago Summit....the largest summit ever held in the history of mankind? Please clarify. From what I have heard Pakistan President Zardari has been asked to deliver the keynote address to the world leaders. WOW !

        May 18, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • pinkfloyd43

      Pakistan is another of the '...stans' that is 100% totally currupt country! I have never met an individual from Pakistan that was not 'after everything for free' and always looking for a way to steal! Sorry but that's how I feel about not only Pakistan but most middle eastern countries. If you are not asking for a bribe you are killing innocent folks for the sake of religion. All countries should avoid these criminal states!

      May 20, 2012 at 9:48 am | Reply
      • Mohammad A Dar

        heart ache of a hindu, denire of truth absolute from hindered criminal country called india,inhabated by none other's than hindu's, ignorant s, shame of called human.

        May 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
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