War supplies collecting dust near Pakistan border
CNN's Reza Sayah reports on U.S.-made NATO supplies bound for Afghanistan that are stuck and unused in Pakistan.
The transit points have been closed for nearly half a year as Pakistan and the U.S. negotiate how to resume relations after a series of incidents, including the secret raid by American forces to kill bin Laden and a border fight with NATO troops that left two dozen Pakistani soldiers killed. It has been a costly problem for the U.S. and NATO which must use other, more circuitous routes to get supplies into the country.
Gen. John Allen, commander of US and NATO troops was in Rawalpindi this past weekend to hold discussions with the Pakistani military on a range of issues, including the border situation. A statement released by the Pakistani government said the talks focused mostly on "Talks focused on operations in border areas and coordination mechanisms to avoid untoward incidents."
A U.S. negotiation team went to Pakistan in late April to start intensive talks about resolving the relationship-crippling issues.
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It is classic guerrilla warfare, it is simple hit an run tactics they come over the border make contact, then break contract and decamp back into Pakistan, the ISAF pursue them into Pakistan they get close to Pakistan troops or some times they are Pakistan troops in militant clothing they hit by airstrike. Then Pakistan has a reason to close the supply lines. Back in 2010 when the lines were closed. The rule if the enemy does not to follow because are led into ambush. If 3 Australian soldiers make contact then break contact and decamp you never follow them because you are being led into an ambush.
People like to think they go kill people, treat people like crap an there repercussions, people push back, how do you get your message across, how do you people to change. Of the system disregards, there obligations, then you have to go outside the system. If it is alright for them to person they why not have applied collaterally.
Very British the Pakistani military they inherited English imperial arrogance, like colonies in Africa inherited carpetbagging, they never take the good only learn the bad. The same downfall of the English will be Pakistan's imperial arrogance.
Repeat after me: "Pakistan is NOT our friend." Well done.
repeat....Indians are backstabbers and double dealers...we will sell our daughters and mothers for a few bucks. We double crossed americans in Iran. Shame on us. WOW... what a catharsis!!! Every Indian on this forum now repeat this after me....
Pakistan is NOT our friend. Pakistanis want to shoot us. (But they'll take a few billion dollars in "aid" while they shoot us.)
With 'friends' like us....................
if there were any bologna sandwiches or chocochip cookies, forget about them..they won't be edible no more
Send them to India. They will eat them....if it is free !!!
This shows how little the reporter really knows about this subject. 1) HMMV's have not been used operationally for several years in Afghanistan as well as Iraq because of their inability to survive IED's. There is a reason why they are in the yard....they are either being shipped back home or diverted to the Pakistani's or someone else. It is forbidden for US personnel to be "outside the wire" in this type of vehicle. To point out a turret to be used as an offensive weapon's platform shows ignorance on the part of the reporter....we don't use these vehicles any longer because they are death traps to IEDs.... Be knowlegable before you look really stupid.
If it isn't one issue, then it's another, then it's another...get over it already. The U.S. should never have invaded there and it would be better off cutting it's losses and withdrawing before the econony totally tanks, fulfilling bin Laden's prediction that the war of terror would bankrupt the U.S. (it could already be too late). When it's time to pay the piper, who would prefer to see their money squadered in Afghanistan as compared to having it spent here?
Get our money/support and help out of Pakistan and stop trying to be their friend They are as friends/allies not worth $1.00 of American hard earned tax money that will eventually end up in the hands of Pakistani supported anti American terrorists
Really.....run with the tail between your legs.
Yep, and you chasing us the whole way saying "waaaaiitt.. we think we know where Bin Laden is now!"
Yes, screw pakistan.
The US is handling the situation very well. Pakistan wanted an unconditional apology from the US for euthanizing 24 Pakistani soldiers who fired on the US helicopters to protect Pakistani terrorists. Instead Pakistan will re-open the NATO supply lines unconditionally just to be included in the NATO conference on the May 20th.
For over six months the might of the world could not make Pakistan change its mind. Now it will be the magnanimity of the Pakistanis to allow this as another gift to the world and USA. With the compliments of Pakistan. Enjoy
Why is the world so dependent on Pakistan? If so, then give it it's due and move on. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Great, maybe this will get us out of Afghanistan more quickly. Why are we still in this rat hole? The 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia and trained in Spain and the US.
What the heck are we in Afghanistan for? It seems to me that Afghanistan is key to Obama's chances of being reelected. He is willing to step over all allies in an attempt to look like a winner. One term prez in my opinion.
Joe Kapadia
What the heck are we in Afghanistan for?
Ask George Bush, he put us there.
Obama is just trying to get us out..........
Mow Ron.
Why does India need a 1 1/2 milion + army doing nothing except genocide in Kashmir? What role is it playing in world progress and making it safer? What contributions has it made in fighting this war on terror? India should stop piggybacking on Pakistan's efforts and sacrifices and step to the plate and carry its weight.
Porki – Stop disguising as an Indian. Porki PIG's no good for any one as it only spreads hatred and always begging. US should drop couple of Nuke's on porkistan and relieve them of their misery.
Have a porterhouse and chill....Bon apetito
Thank you, Pakistan, for your sacrifices and contributions in fighting the terror war to make the world safe. Thank you for spending the billions. Thank you for winning the Vietnam War and the cold war for us in Afghanistan by defeating the Soviets and their communist allies, the Indians, against overwhelming odds. Hoooahh!
24 dead is what you get when you open fire on an attack helicopter. if they even sent a few bullets towards the terrorists boogying back over the border, we could have known whether they were good guys or not, instead they shot at the helicopter......stupid
Were you there when it happened? 24 human beings have died. The least we can do is pray for them.Don't they value human lives where you come from? Pathethic!
i don't value the lives of the people who protect terrorists. Who would shoot at an American attack helicopter and not expect to be put 6 feet under
@YoungMarine......What is your 1 1/2 million army doing except playing with themselves day in and day out hiding from the talibans.
@Joe Kapadia – Those are 24 soldiers were trying to protect terrorists. If those 24 low-life soldiers were successful in saving terrorists, then those terrorists would gone on to kill innocent people. That is why not a single country in the world spoke against the loss of lives of those 24 terrorist supporters. It is the duty and responsibility of NATO and the US to get rid of terrorism and its all its supporters. That is why NATO and US stand on higher moral ground than Pakistan.
Again, what is your 1 1/2 million indian army doing except slaughtering kashmiri civilians. Why don't they come out and face the talibans? Scared? Now as far as americans are concerned they should kiss the ground the Pakistanis walk on. Remember Pakistanis won the Vietnm war for the americans in Afghnaistan and ended the cold war. Don't you ever forget it..
Can we airlift supplies in? If so we just write the other stuff off as a gain for pakistan.
Pakistan will have no choice but to re-open the NATO supply lines before May 20th. None of their silly demands will be met. (1) Drone strikes will continue by the US, and (2) No apology will be given by the US to Pakistan for stamping out 24 pests in November last year. And their aid has been reduced. Pakistan has been told to stay away from NATO meeting on May 20th unless they re-open the NATO supply lines. Pakistanis have no choice - They have been told to simply suck it up, eat all their pride, and re-open the NATO supply lines before May 20th. Let's see what they do now.
Human lives are precious even if from third world countries. If Countries responsible for the slaughter of these soldiers don't want to apologize, it reflects on their culture and the value they place on human lives. It reflects on how degenerated these societies have become. It is not about apologies but about valuing human lives.
Yes, it is all about valuing lives of innocent people. Pakistanis value lives of terrorists, not the lives of innocent people. If the Pakistani soldiers ever shoot at NATO again to give cover to Pakistani terrorists, they will get an appropriate and forceful response from NATO, not an apology. Hope Pakistani soldiers learnt their lesson. If so, further lessons can be avoided.
Repeat.....what is your 1 1/2 million indian army doing? For over 25 years they have been avoiding fighting talibans. yella bellies these indian soldiers. Sitting in the trenches scared.
Recover the supplies and air drop them in.
Reimburse the losses from pakistan!!!
Pakistn has made choice that 'pakistan loves militancy/Taliban and not progressive world' (But Pakistn can't resist donations/aid from west!!!!)
Now Pakistan is finding excuses for opening NATO supply!!!! (There is no give and take !!! there is begging and give up!!!!)
Once they were shown there worth and congress made some bills to block their 'donations' ... they woke up.
But Pakistan has potential to harm usa in many ways and would ensure that they would do it more shreudly
Taliban has already acquired some area of Pakistan and they are content with it!!!
Let Afghanistan come up without any contribution by Pakistan!!!!
Pakistan may play a spoil sport but would fail.
Liberate Blochistan once for all. Once that is done there is permanent route to reach to Afghanistan via balochistan!!!!
You must be my fellow Indian making idiotic comments wreaking of hatred. We are well aware that there can be no solution to Afghanistan without the blessings and involvement of Pakistan. This is just face saving by Obama during election year. USA wants to emerge from Afghanistan looking like a winner when the world knows that they have fought the longest war in history with rag tag talibans and the end is nowhere in sight. What have we Indians contributed? Our armed forces are useless and could not even defend the country when a few teenage talibans dared us in Mumbai. In our own counrty!!
Thakur – chup baith nahi to gabbar tere do hath kaath dega. Stupid ignorant ass shutup! Don't talk about things which does not belong in connection to this article. Stop sympathizing with Porki PIGs.
@KP you are a disgrace to our already meek indian genes. I enjoy a T-Bone...why don't you git yourself a nice juicy Filet medium rare and down it with some ()rine cola.
We could use those supplies on the Mexican / American border.
i agree shoot to kill except women and children just arrest them and toss them back
This charade has been going on for over 10 yrs. Either acknowledge Pakistan's positive role and sacrifices in this matter or move on and use alternate routes if you cannot come to an agreement. Naught for nothing. What is so complicated? Now lets git goin. Get some people involved who can effectively negotiate and get the deal done.
Bring the stuff home this is a total waste of money stop sending them anything periord