The bin Laden Situation Room revisited – One year later
By Jamie Crawford
In the annals of American history, the famous photo taken by Pete Souza of President Barack Obama and his national security team monitoring 'Operation Neptune's Spear'–the Navy SEALs raid that killed Osama bin Laden– has achieved icon status. Splashed across newspapers and television screens across the world, the tension in the room seemed palpable to all who saw it. But an interesting footnote to the famous photo is that it was not taken in the actual Situation Room at the White House.
As CNN Terrorism Analyst Peter Bergen reports in his new book "Manhunt," about the decade long search for bin Laden, the room where the photo was taken is actually a smaller room adjoined to the larger Situation Room. Like the Situation Room, the smaller room has secure video and phone communications, but it has a table that can only accommodate seven people Bergen writes, as opposed to the larger table next door which can seat more than a dozen.
Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb.
In the days and months that followed, many of the people in the room have reflected on that crucial time in U.S. history, what it meant to them, and what they were thinking.
President Barack Obama:
In a recent interview with NBC News, Obama said he thinks the photo was taken at about the time the helicopter went down.
In the days after the raid, Obama told CBS's 60 Minutes that the raid was "the longest 40 minutes" of his life with the possible exception of when his younger daughter Sasha became sick with meningitis when she was three months old.
When they received word the helicopters carrying the Navy SEALs and the bin Laden body had left Pakistani airspace, the first person Obama called was his immediate predecessor, former President George W. Bush to inform him of the operation. Obama also called former President Bill Clinton that evening as well.
Vice President Joe Biden:
Vice President Joe Biden was opposed to going forward with the raid all the way up to the point when Obama made the decision to proceed. In remarks to House Democrats at their annual retreat earlier this year, Biden recalled the final moments before the commander-in-chief made his decision. Obama went around the table of his senior national security team to get their thoughts on whether the operation should go forward.
"He got to me. He said Joe what do you think," Biden recalled. "I said, we owe the man a direct answer. Mr. President, my suggestion is, don't go. We have to do two more things to see if he's there."
Biden told an audience in New York last week that Obama's decision to ultimately go ahead with decision shows the president has a "backbone like a ramrod."
Anthony Blinken – National Security Advisor to Vice President Biden:
On the morning of April 29, President Obama gathered with Tom Donilon, his national security adviser, White House Chief of Staff William Daley, Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough, and his counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, and told the men he had made the decision to go forward with the operation. Anthony Blinken, Biden's national security adviser heard the news shortly thereafter.
In an interview with Bergen, Blinken was somewhat surprised of the decision.
"I thought, 'Man, that is a gutsy call," Blinken told Bergen. "First, we don't know for sure bin Laden is there; the evidence is circumstantial. Second, most of his senior advisors recommended a different course of action."
Obama's presidency and the lessons of history also hung in the balance Blinken thought.
"Leaving that meeting, I think a lot of people had visions of Jimmy Carter in their heads," Blinken told Bergen in reference to the failed attempt by the Carter administration in 1980 to rescue the Americans held hostage at the U.S. embassy in Iran.
John Brennan – Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism:
White House counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan recently told an audience at NYPD headquarters in New York that once Obama made the "gutsy call" to approve the mission, "the minutes passed like hours and days."
When an NYPD official asked Brennan what it was like to be at the White House that evening, Brennan said there "wasn't a sense of exuberance, there were no high fives," he said. "People let out a breath. It was a moment of reflection. This was something we'd all worked toward for a long time."
Brennan recalled leaving the White House at 1:30am and passing by Lafayette Park, where many people had gathered and were chanting, "USA, USA." Brennan said he was hit by a wave of emotion. "I had goose bumps," he said.
James Clapper – Director of National Intelligence:
Clapper told Security Clearance "the tension in the air was palpable" particularly when the helicopter encountered its problem. "There was a lot of tension, and then as it became clear that we were reasonably sure that yes, it was Usama bin Laden, there was, if I can use the phrase, not only emotional closure, but functional closure in that operation illustrated the effectiveness of what an integrated intelligence and operational community could accomplish," he said.
Clapper told Security Clearance he walked with the President through the Rose Garden on their way to the East Room where Obama addressed the nation. It was the first time they had been outdoors for 12 hours, and they could hear the crowds in Lafayette Park. "It was then that it hit me what a momentous event this was, and I'll not forget that" Clapper said.
"It is hard for me to recall a single vignette that carried with it so much importance, and so much symbolism for this country," Clapper said. "As an intelligence professional that has spent 50 years in the business, I cannot remember an event that would approach that raid and its success in my memory."
Hillary Clinton – Secretary of State:
For Secretary Clinton, who was a U.S. Senator from New York on 9/11, the operation provided a sense of closure to her she said recently in an address at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis. "We did our very best to try to give the president our honest assessment, and ultimately you know it was his decision which I fully supported because I believed that we had to take the risk and it was a risk."
Watch as Hillary Clinton recounts the mood at the White House during the bin Laden raid.
"It was a pretty intense, tense, stressful time because the people who were actually doing it on the ground were thousands of miles away," she said. "I'm not sure anyone breathed for you know 35 or 37 minutes."
"I wasn't even aware people were taking pictures, the White House photographer obviously was, but you were just so concentrating on what you could see and you could hear. We could see or hear nothing when [the SEALs] went into the house. There was no communication or feedback coming so it was during that time period everyone was particularly focused on just trying to keep calm and keep prepared as to what would happen," Clinton said.
William Daley – White House Chief of Staff:
President Obama's former chief of staff might have come closest to tipping off the press that something monumental was in the works before Obama made his historic address to the nation.
That Saturday evening, Obama, Daley, and many other senior administration officials were attending the annual White House Correspondents Association dinner in Washington. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News had heard from someone that the White House had uncharacteristically closed itself to public tours the next morning. "You guys have something big going on over there?" Bergen writes of Stephanopoulos's surprising query to Daley. "Oh no. It's just a plumbing issue," Daley said, seemingly ending the newsman's curiosity.
In an address to a conference of public relations executives in Chicago last week, Daley called that night of the operation at the White House the "biggest moment of my life in a professional sense."
Tom Donilon – National Security Adviser:
"Well, obviously we're thinking about the successful and safe completion of the mission," Donilon told CNN's Candy Crowley a week after the raid. "That was first and foremost in everybody's mind as we were monitoring the mission as it was ongoing."
"You know, as I look at the picture now though, and focus in on the president, having served three presidents," Donilon told Crowley, "you really are struck by these being quintessentially presidential decisions, and you see it in new experiences that you have."
For Donilon, who watched the president receive divided opinions from his advisers on whether to go forward with the mission, "that's what strikes me now, looking at the president, is that we ask our presidents to make these exceedingly difficult decisions," Donilon said. "And at the end of the day, 300 million Americans are looking to him to make the right decision."
Robert Gates – Secretary of Defense:
Gates, who was the only hold over in Obama's cabinet from the previous administration, said for him, the most difficult moment for him that evening was when one of the Blackhawk helicopters carrying a Navy SEALs team crashed in the courtyard of the bin Laden compound.
Like Biden, he was opposed to the operation involving the SEALs. Gates, who spent a majority of his career at the C.I.A. and was the intelligence liaison at the White House in 1980 during the failed attempt to rescue the American hostages held in Iran, advocated for a much larger operation.
"Well, I think like the rest, I was just transfixed," Gates told CBS's 60 Minutes last year. "And of course, my heart went to my mouth when the helicopter landed in the courtyard, 'cause I knew that wasn't part of the plan. But these guys were just amazing."
Admiral Mike Mullen – Chairman of the Joint Chiefs:
For Mullen, there was also a concern about whether the White House would interfere after the helicopter went down.
Mullen told Bergen his biggest concern "was that someone at the White House would reach in and start micromanaging the mission. It is potentially the great disadvantage about technology that we have these days," he said. "And I was going to put my body in the way of trying to stop that. Obviously, there was one person I couldn't stop doing that, and that was the president."
Audry Tomason – National Counterterrorism Center:
CNN reached out to Audrey Tomason to get her reflections of that evening, but she was unavailable for comment.
Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb – Assistant Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command:
Webb was the senior officer in the room from Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). The commanding officer of JSOC, Admiral William McRaven, briefed the officials on the operation from his position in Afghanistan. Webb declined to comment to CNN about his role in the operation, or his reflections of the evening.
Denis McDonough – Deputy National Security Advisor:
"I think what strikes me about the picture more than anything is the fact that it speaks to the teamwork that was emblematic," McDonough told CNN's Wolf Blitzer the day after the operation. "The broader teamwork from the IAC, the intelligence community, from the military, from our diplomats, to make sure that this happened in the successful way that it did."
Leon Panetta – Central Intelligence Agency Director:
Panetta, who at that point was the Director of the C.I.A. at the agency headquarters in Langley, VA that evening, but was communicating with Obama and his team via a video link. The Title 50 operation called for the C.I.A. to have operational control, so everyone at the White House was listening to Panetta narrate what was happening.
"There were a number of tense moments going through the operation," now Defense Secretary Panetta said on his way back to the United States from South America last week. "Just the fact that having these helicopters going 150 miles into Pakistan, and the concern about whether or not they would be detected." When one of the helicopters went down at the compound, Panetta said it was "pretty nerve-wracking for a lot of us that, you know, trying to figure out what happens now."
When they received confirmation from the SEAL team that they had killed bin Laden, Panetta said there was a "huge sigh of relief by everybody involved." But with a disabled helicopter down at the compound, it had to be destroyed by members of the team before they were able to leave Pakistani territory. "And so there was a lot of concern about the ability to get everybody back to Afghanistan," Panetta said. "But we were able to do that, and it was at that point that I think everybody kind of looked at everybody and said, 'mission accomplished."
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Poor Mittens! Those grapes are so sour! AWWWWW!
I know what everyone in the photo was thinking. They were thinking "how can I pose for the camera to convince people I am watching the Bin Laden raid when I know full well Bin Laden was dead years ago". By the way it has been admitted there was no live feed of the alleged Bin Laden raid.
actually there was no feed for about 20 minutes or so of the mission and we do not know at what point of the whole mission this photograph was taken.
There was no mission. It has been confirmed through many sources and is common knowledge in most of the world (the US excluded) that Bin Laden died in late 2001 of renal failure. why is it there was no dialysis equipment found at the "compound" he was allegedly killed at? Why is it we haven't been given a single shred of evidence he was killed in Pakistan? Are we supposed to just blindly trust the government after they have lied to us many times?
Right on Mosin. Having a healthy skepticism of government is not something most people commenting here seem to possess.
paranoid is not a healthy state.
Hey Mosin, Do you believe we went to the moon or it's a government conspiracy?
Better yet Mosin, Do you believe the Iranians saying the Jews were never killed?
Are you really one of the three stooges?
Cedar Rapids... typical one-lined liberal response attacking the person not the facts.
Someone once said: "“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." – Thomas Jefferson
Was he paranoid?
your accusation of the government lying all the time is actually you seeing conspiracy theories in everything they do.
yeah sure its all a big hoax, the pakistani government were pretending to get upset by something that didnt happen, everyone in that room are conspirators, seal team 6 has been paid to keep quiet about it, the helicopter rotor that was photographed was a photoshopped mockup, heck even the twitter of the guy who heard helicopters going over that night was nothing more than a fake, the people onboard the ship that supposedly dropped the body overboard were all told to keep quiet....or maybe they dropped a body overboard that they were told was obl but really wasnt, all these news reports about the stuff they recovered and released to the press were yet more convincing fakes designed to keep the lie going.
who knew the government were this efficient.
Yeah, and someone placed explosives in the WTC...Did they get'em at Torra Borra? If you were in front of me I'd give you a wet willy...Now go stand in the corner for 5 minutes for such a dumb comment...
There were explosives at the WTC on 9/11, just as there was in 1993. Controlled demolition is the only way to make a building collapse into it's own footprint at free fall.
Look up WTC 7....and never forget that no plane hit that building.
wtc7 huh? sigh.
Wow...that was an informed, well thought out response. Congratulations, your debating skills are superb and have persuaded me to vote for Obama.
This is what they are thinking "so that is how head shot looks like in real life."
Building 7
Obama: Bin Laden – Shoot to kill – gone
Still the only compelling headline of his Presidency.
Envy and jealousy! There's a remedy for that ailment! Kool-Aid!
Collectively, they're all thinking, did I left garage door up? What if the dogs get out of the house? Next time Bill cheated on me I will personally order the Seal team and do a Bin Ladin on him. Hollywood here I come. Eat your heart out James Cameron, this will become one helluva blockbuster.
Now I understand where many of the uneducated folks are located, who never set foot in a college classroom and achieved top grades. Unless you have been in someones shoes, don't speculate or judge their decisions. Otherwise, you are talking out of your backside.
What are you saying? You have to go to school?Who's shoes have you been in Patriot?
School – yeah, you know.. that place that Mittens doesn't think is needed! Or was that Sanitarium? Same diff.
As president, who would be taking the 3:00am call for MItt Romney on the sabbath? Hehehe!
I am so very proud of our President and his team. OBAMA / BIDEN 2012
I would much rather know what the real heros were thinking. The military men who did the work.
Amen, sister! Being true heroes, they will never tell. Somewhere, in a footlocker, there's an empty .223 Remington shell or 2.
SOCOM would be 6.8 SPC
Would be nice but would be a security risk for their well being.
Susie....great comment....truer words were never spoken.
Too bad the real heroes were loaded on a run down national guard helicopter that was blown up with them aboard (a total violation of SEAL protocol). Bin laden was not found in Pakistan (he was dead years ago) and the only witnesses are now dead.
uh huh, ok then.
too bad that seal team 6 actually consists of about 300 members and none of those that were in the obl mission were onboard the one that crashed.
How do you know? Have you personally talked to the members of SEAL team 6 that participated in the alleged raid and confirmed they are in fact still alive?
oh jeez, ok you are a nut that is never going to be convinced i can tell. heck yeah sure, the other 290 odd members of seal team 6 have kept quiet that the raid was fake and that the only ones on that raid were all killed in a helicopter crash 3 months later, sure, whatever.
Actually some SEALs have gone public saying they have doubts about the official story but are ignored by the corporate wh*re media.
"Actually some SEALs have gone public saying they have doubts about the official story but are ignored by the corporate wh*re media."
yeah because fox sure as heck wouldnt want anything to do with a news story that might show up Obama.
Mosin – how does it feel to rewrite history to suit the neocons? Or was it just to try to make Obama look bad? You have as much proof of your theory as Newt had a chance of getting the GOP nomination. None. Hypoythesize away bro!
Chances are they weren't thinking about anything until they got on the other bird to get out of Pakistan...they were probably too focused on getting in and out of the compound more than anything else. The question I would ask is what that initial feeling was when they confirmed they killed bin Laden.
Where were you on that historic night when Americans waved ole glory, sang patriotic songs and chanted...Obama got Osama, Obama got Osama, Obama got Osama??? Obama/Biden 2012!
From the look on their faces maybe they just saw a list of American dead from the DOD news releases web site.
The list that is NEVER reported on in the media anymore now that Afghanistan is Obama’s war.
Bless the brave American troops who are dying almost every other day.
odummer happened to be in the room when it happened. Even so this being the only thing he has done besides running up our debt he is a sad excuse for a prez
Obama made the decision to invade another nation on this mission.
You have shown that you are clueless about the FACTS. Well done.
Really...you are breathing air that can be used by thinking people....kill yourself.
Dumbama is the absolute worst President this country has ever sat in Washington....Dare I say maybe even worst than the infamous Jimmy Carter! And when it comes to Bin Laden, even a blind squirrel will find a nut every no and then.
If that mission were a failure, Obama would have found a way to blame President Bush...Obama got lucky and found a nut,
I didn't hear any praise for President Bush! Obama clearly has no character at all!
The person lacking in character is the president who said he DIDN'T CARE about the guy who caused 9/11.
He is a amazing man. You need to respect your president!!
Why do you say that? Give me a reason. Also, you think Jimmy Carter was worse than George W (2 wars and an economic collapse) Bush? Put your reasoning down so we can all enjoy it.
PRESIDENT OBAMA...ONE OF THE GREATEST PRESIDENTS OF ALL TIME!!!! ~OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!
The George W. Bush policy on Osama bin Laden:
“I don't know where (bin Laden) is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him to be honest with you." "I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."
Good context for your agenda. Seems you have forgotten we are ONE team.
Whatever ANYONE says today in support or in sarcasm, the bottom-line is, "Obama got bin Laden". Fret, Frown, Fume or Support. That's the reality. 🙂
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you brain dead liberals Obama did NOT GET Osama IN FACT not fiction he gave the job to a General and had it failed he would of been another Obummer scape goat
Can see it now, new movie from director of Hurt Locker- Obama secretly trained the Navy Seals between 94 rounds of golf, then he flew the lead heli into compound & he did NOT pull the triger but beat the truth out of Osama saving 10,000 white sex slaves bound in chains in Sudi – what a CROCK Obama is
Actually, the military 'got' Osama...with assistance from the intelligence community. Military affairs and intellegence are both foreign to Obama.
Dean,
The Harvard Law School graduate with honors made the risky call to invade another country. Try again.
Absolutely. And to you foolish partisan posters... the first call he made was to former President: Bush. They have no probelme with each other... because they are "in the know". You posters who create this mental divide... it is simply because you are NOT "in the know". Think about that next time you spout your partisan BS.
Every President Since Reagan Tried, and Obama Did....got to give respect for that.
no peckerface! seals got obama, and obama will be talking about this until november. LOL thank GOD obama will be organizing a community somewher soon!
It will be your community bud. USA ! The Grand Obstructionist Party has no platform, no candidate and no chance in Nov. Perhaps you should start packing now?
Mez and all my limo liberal friends had just finished a bucket when we got the news. We'z was thinking Re-Election!!!
Despite wrecking the US economy, 15T in debt and OBOcare that everyone hates....
Thanks you CNN for all the free election year publicity!! You've saved us a ton of $$$ on TV commercials
C all you sheeps, left nuts and dead people at the polls in Nov.
Love, Obo
Bush and the Republicans started a $1,000,000,000,000 war for false reasons, then didn't want to pay for it and dumped it on President Obama.
Hmm, I did not realize that President Obama was not aware of the war when he took office. Very insightful!
Join us for a game of toss the tea baggers.
"Real Americans" are not afraid to admitt that the president made a very difficult and courageous call. You posers should learn to respect this country or head out....
Mittens, the flip flopper in chief, is on record criticizing Obama for saying he would strike Bin Laden in Pakistan. Now that Mittens has egg on his face he wants to say me too? LAME! The democrats are justified in slamming Romney to the ground on this. And they should continue to relentlessly hammer him until election day. Romney is the GOP's Neville Chamberline.
I love the FACT that odummer doesn't even rate a chair at the big boys table!!!!!
"Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb."
Bet you also love the fact that Bush didn't care about the guy who started 9/11.
@Christopher Morgan.... Does it matter where he sits?! No! ...HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and who also TOOK DOWN OSAMA BIN LADEN!!!! ~Now Christopher, go buy you some "grown-man undies" and accept the fact that he also will be RE-ELECTED in 2012 too!!!!
The photograph has also been noted to depict a change in presidential leadership style. Historian Clarence Lusane said that past presidents have felt a need to project "machismo" and "swagger." Meredith College sociology professor Lori Brown said it is significant however, that Obama is neither in the center of the room nor in the tallest chair. Political analyst Cheryl Contee said "Obama's willingness to be photographed without the typical Oval Office swagger gives birth to a new type of swagger." She said that the image shows Obama's leadership style as a collaborator.
Perhaps they were wondering if the success of this mission would finally unite a very divided congress that's bent on seeing to it that the country fail because a black man was elected by the people! It doesn't matter what this black President do for this country, the rightwing leadership and their base have proved that they will continue to work towards dividing this country on the basis of race and class! I believe we still have a century to go before we can proudly proclaim the cliche of one nation under God!
Yes....let's all unite behind the president and approve all his spending wet dreams!
We've only gotten $5 trillion more in debt in the last 3 years!
Hey, I have an idea.....let's start a NEW entitltement program to bankrupt America even faster!
I PERSONALLY WILL HOLD OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR 5 BILLION HE ADDED AND I THINK HE WILL WORK ON THAT, BUT HOW COME IT WAS NO BIG DEAL WHEN BUSH WAS IN OFFICE.
You're an idiot! The combined cost of the Afghan and illegitimate Iraqi war is now at 4.8 trillion dollars and soon to be 6 trillion dollars at the projected end of the Afghan war which was deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged for the Iraqi war! Fiscal responsibility? No, more like wasteful spending! And perhaps trailer trash like you don't realize that the 787 Trillion Stimulus package was passed out of NECESSITY to stabilize and jumpstart the broken American economy, thereby preventing it from slipping into a catastrophic depression! Likewise, the unemployment and healthcare extensions passed during the President's first two years in office were passed out of NECESSITY to help unemployed and struggling Americans take care of their love ones, while keeping a roof over their heads! And perhaps you don't seem to realize that while we spent trillions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan killing innocent people, the healthcare reform bill was geared towards saving and preserving American lives and subsequently reducing our national deficit by half a trillion dollars over a period of ten years! And I always believe that a healthier America is simply a stronger America! Rightwing moron!
A very poor attempt at diversion! Can you answer the question, Who was Commander-in-Chief when Osama was killed?" I didn't think so! I hope it didn't hurt Chenney's bottom line too much. Again, Who was Commander-in Chief when our boys got Osama? It will be in all the history books. Hint: It wasn't Dubya
Lets admit to the fact that Osama accomplished everything he needed too!! He damn near bankrupted this country. You combine the revenues lost from 9-11 stock market crash and the cost of war....hell, we are lucky we are not in the same boat as Russia.
I find it interesting that there would be any doubt as to wether to take out bin laden. Had Obama not taken him out and later it was found out he missed the opportunity would have compounded his problems. For him to take credit and to continue to take credit is absurd. Obama was fortunate it happened while he was president it is one of the very few positive things to come out of this administration.
@bestthumper
You're a typical rightwing un-American confederate racist! Envy and jealousy!
White/Black man.
Hillary Clinton's picture looks WEIRD than other people out there.
Obama said the picture was taken as one of the helicopters were having difficulty, which is why Clinton put her hand over her face.
YOUR POINT IS ?
Thank God for this administration.
The Obama Administration would like to remind you there's Separation of Church and State in this country. You cannot say that.
And that's a damngood thing, too.
Why would I not pray we don't have 4 more years? I make more than when he took office, take home less, pay more for gas, groceries, insurance, and utilities. Why do I want more of that? We as a country have seen more debt in just over 3 years under Obama than Bush had in 8. We have more people out of work than any time in history, we have more people in poverty than ever before, the housing market is at its lowest, we have less job creation than we jobs being created, more people on food stamps than ever before, and I haven't seen this much racism and class division since the 60's. Why do we want more of that?
I'm calling BS. If you make more, you are NOT taking home less. If you are, you can thank the insurance companies for bumping up your healthcare premiums another 17% for 2012. Gas is lower than under the Bush admin, but even Faux Noise admits that the POTUS has no control over gas prices. On the rest you are probably correct, however.
We are conditioned for instant gratification. The fiscal and economic challenges Obama inherited were long in the making (not just Dubya's fault). You can't fix broke in 4 yrs, but the sheeple have short memories and an even shorter fuse. Thinks are getting better, albeit slowly. And that's no thanks to the Grand Obstructionist Party who have done absolutely nothing in Congress for the last 3 yrs except to make Obama a 1-term President – even if it means bankrupting the country in the process. They got close too. Yet people still believe what they have to say???
Bin Laden died years ago and involved in 9/11...look-up the mossad. Money runs the world and your government. I don't know what to call them clowns or puppets.
If you have any idea what you are talking about, you are giving President Obama for creating the greatest conspiracy in history involving us, al Qaeda, and the bin Laden family.
LOL.
Kill yourself. Just do us all a favor and kill yourself.
Does the Obama Campaign have to pay CNN for all this election year advertising?
Does the Republican Party pay CNN to not mention that Bush didn't care about bin Laden?
No. The truth is free.
They are thinking, "gosh we better look dramatic.".
they were thinking " Man I hope we can pull this one off since Osama Bin Ladens already been dead since the year after 911.. and holy shit I hope nobody asks to see his body..." Well we know how that was all handled , dump a body, or something at sea,, anything, make it look good and nobody ever has to answer to it.. cept what about the divers who were in the area that day ! ! ! ! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! someday the truth is comming out.,..then I cant wait to see the look on the faces then ! !
It's hard to believe that there are dimbulb birthers left after they were thoroughly humiliatated.
Unfortunately ther are many miscreants in the republican party that still believe the earth is flat and only 6,000 years old.
If you need a birth certificate let me know I can print one up. How about his college admission forms? Did he go to school here as an international student or as a resident? Personally I don't care, myself and millions of others are worse off now than 3+ years ago. How come we don't hear Obama say he inherited $1.80/gal. gas?
@Bestthumper – you are displaying that you are clueless and merely hating. At least pretend that you have the intelligence to realize that from the day it looked like Obama was getting the Dem nomination (and probably long before that) that the GOP was out digging up "dirt" on the candidates. BOTH sides do it. If Obama had any skeletons (such as birth cert., education, etc) it would have been made public and he would have been gone.
It amazes me that we still have folks like you who actually believe Obama is an African-born Muslim. Puh-lease.. give it a rest already. It makes you come across as having an IQ less than the digits on your hands and feet combined – assuming you can count that high!
thing is you will go to your grave with the truth still being the truth and you will still deny even then.
So Bush killed Osama, but let the world think he was alive so a Dem President could come in and fake an entire assassination? Then we go over and crash land a top secret helicopter giving the Chinese technological secrets. Makes complete sense.....
GO TAKE YOUR MEDS...AND STAY OFF SOCIAL NETWORKS!!!
Hillary "I have to pee so bad!!"
Nope, Tiger just missed a 2 footer and threw his club, and Hillary can't believe it. BO has the boys and girls over watchin' the Masters.
You spelled "poop" wrong.
They were trying to decice who got to be pivot man? Hillary had her ba lls on the block too.
Obama got lucky. This feat is the only thing barely keeping himself in the running. Look at his sucky health care bill and you will have a reflection of his entire prsidency.
President Obama got bin Laden killed.
Bush DIDN"T CARE.
Bush didn't try and restrict religious freedoms. Yeah he sucked but Obama is at the very least just as bad if not worse.
You should move to S.E. Michigan. The autos are booming again. So are the supply companies. All are hiring 1,000's. Unemplyment is going down. Houses are selling. All thanks to Obama.
i live in maine just so you know, we have had no benefit from his presidency.
"we have had no benefit from his presidency"
Millions of peoples retirement funds are in the stock market and they were tanking under Bush. It's UP 60%.
Ooops.
With all of the lives lost at 911 and thousands of American Soldiers lost in the war against terrorism, I am disappointed that President Obama and the Democrates would make this a political ad. Any President would have made that call. With Mother's Day approaching, my heart goes out to all of the Mother's that have sacrificed a Son or Daughter for this cause. Please let's not make this a platform issue!!
Do tell what Bush did to help Maine....can't wait to hear your answer!
Thats a lie Barry! Bush said capturing Osama wasnt important. Romney said the same thing! So keep spewing lies....the informed still know the truth.
Sorry Barry but the repubs made political hay out of 9/11 every chance they got.
Giuliani tried to make a political career out of it.
@obamasucks....PLS stop hating sooo much!!! There are MILLIONS & MILLIONS of people who like him!! Your little comments ONLY propels us to go vote for him even more! ~So, go cry to sum1 who cares.... OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Here's my qeustion to y'all, if they weren't goin to politicize it [and of course they did], than why take this silly picture of them just staring off at something?? The ENTIRE purpose of this picture is political reasons.
Very often a male teabagger will search a nearby trailer park for a female teabagger he can mate with. But before he can boink her they must get written permission from their Queen Mother Sarah Palin. After permission is received they can spawn. Their offspring are then typically referred to as ' baggettes '.
Sounds like you've done this many times before???
Man.. did I get it wrong. I thought they were donuts. No substance, no middle and all sugar coated on the outside.
Repubs, you have NOTHING AND just so you know MITT has hired Bush advisors. We all know how those advisors worked out for America before, Dont we
So Obama is pro abortion (even partial birth) and with his health care bill he is restricted religious freedoms. If you can give me 2 more right things he's done, I'd be interested.
1. The stock market is UP 60% after Bush left it PLUMMETING.
2. The fear that we are on the brink of another Great Depression is over. It was the #! concern at the end of the Bush years.
Guess again.
OS, The question to you is, DO you want to go back to the BUSH area ? That is what Mitt is doing when he hires advisors OR do you want to move forward?
Restricted religious freedoms? How? Please, enlighten us with actaul facts, not some misconstrued talking point.
BO be thinkin' "Monica Lowinsky lives where??"
President Oblamer was thinking "I can't believe they pulled me away from my golf game for this, just let Valerie Jarret make the decision".
Look at the golf shirt the President is wearing under his jacket, what a crack-up!!!
GW Bush still holds the record for the number of vacation days for any sitting president in the history of our country. He spent 1/3 of his double term on vacation.
you are complaining about the t-shirts the president wears now? jeez.
As opposed to Bush who was clearing brush in Texas for halh of his presidency. The repubs can never give ANY credit!! It kills them that this President got Bin Ladin and their President got shoes thrown at him!!!! HILARIOUS
4 more years 4 more years!
I am so glad that you wil never be anything more than a little league coach or something equally as harmless. When it come to tough decisions and "gutsy" calls you'd still be sucking your thumb. Go play with your dolls.
So he's wearing a golf/polo shirt. So what? Biden's not wearing a tie~! Oh.. shame. the VP without a tie. Makes as much sense as your vacuous comment.
@Dr. Mantis...Are you sure you're a doctor?! WHY ARE YOU BLOGGING?! DON'T YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO?! ...WOW, Pres. Obama must be a really awesome person & Pres., since "doctors" have time to stop what their doing and make idiotic comments about him....he threatens you that much, DOCTOR?!?!!
The President proved to me that he is a great leader and can make the tuff decisions, even when several of his security team opposed the strike.
What were they thinking? They were thinking "Bin Laden died 3 years ago from kidney failure, but we must pretend we just found him, raided his camp and killed him in a blaze of glory so we can be reelected".
HUH??
Ha. is that the best you can do? No wonder you admire Joe the plumber. Maybe he can unclog you.
Maybe they were thinking "I can't believer that there are dimwits who think bin Laden is already dead".
Re-elected? Better get off the kool-aid and back on your meds. OBL was take out a year ago.. its the anniversary stoops! If it was for re-election they would have waited a year. Sheesh.. what are you thoughtless neocons coming to. Not an ounce of intelligence between ya.
Please provide me with the proof that you have that Bin Laden died three year ago. I really want to know where you got that information from because you have breaking news. If this were in any way true dont you think the Rep/Tea people would have a party trying to crucify Obama for such a grave and proven lie. Wow please make the world know what no other educated and respected journalist could find you uncovered. You name will go down in history as one of the dumbest people on the face of the earth. LMAO.
This photo shows how people can work together to rid the world on an evil man. To kill a snake you must cut off the head. Too bad the jewish newspaper Di Tzeitung, didn't see it that way when they removed the women from the photo although they knew that it was not to be altered.
They're thinking thank goodness for the previous administration's intelligence tactics that were used becuase we would never have been able to get to this point on our own!!
Are you really that stupid or did "mission accomplshed" embarass y'all so badly that your grasping at ANY straw to try and salvage some dignity. Your man said it...."I hardly think about the man."..."He's in a cave on dialysis" it used to be funny now it's just plain pitiful.
Um March 13,2002 6 months after the war started you beloved President Bush stopped looking for Osama Bin Laden. He dismantled the team created to go after him and set his sights on Iraq. All of the torture techniques gave the government no usefull information on Bin Laden's wereabouts. When president Obama got in office he refocused efforts on locating Bin Laden which he did and killing him. Its funny Obama gets blamed for the horrible economy Bush took 8 years to create but Bush gets the praise for killing a man that he stopped looking for 6 months after he declared war on him. Wow the Republican reality is so backasswards. Man can i have whatever it is your smokling because its got to be hella strong.
You do realize that name calling is on par with a 7 year old's way of defending themselves.
Tinisha, do you truly believe that? That is probably one of the more ridiculous posts that I've ever read.
@PatM...NO Pat, Tinisha makes more sense than you! Everything she said is accurate. Pls stop tuning in to FOX getting misinformation, and then come on social networks making comments and sounding ridiculous! ~Tinisha is doing her homework and you seem to have been "sleeping in!" ...OBAMA GOT OSAMA!!! 🙂
Actually Navy Seals are coming out saying Obama didn't give the order. As are some Pentagon officials saying he didn't, off record of course.
ok then, sure, seal team members are privy to who actually gave the order, of course they are.
Here we go! The RightWingNuts are at it again. Muslim, not born in the USA, not a Christian, and on and on and on agian it goes.
Of course they are.. they came out on Faux Noise channel and they makes it true, right ?
LOL, the only thing that was successful for this man and he is just trying to play it up. What a joke of him and a joke of the leftist media
UMM you forget he saved our auto industry, saved us from the Bush great depression, 24 months of private sector job growth, no terrorist attacks on US soil (see 9/11), stock markets are at 4 year highs, ended the Busk illegal Iraq war,
Yeah you are right.. he's done nothing
....and still you reap no dignity. Face it. Bush dropped the ball and you guys will NEVER be able to get around that simple, single, point. Sayin' it don't make it so. No matter how often you repeat your adjusted "truths" (available by the dozen at Faux News for a dime a dozen) the record speaks for itself. i'm sure for you it's " beaten by that N_____r again!" Dang!
Interesting how you had to bring race into your post. I guess all of the "y'alls" shoud have given it away. Shame on you.
right had chance but they blew it .
Right, so Obama is doing a victory lap and that's bad... Bush landed on an aircraft carrier and that just shows how macho he was... Nope no double standard there.
Bush landing on the aircraft carrier was not good either. But I think we all know that Obama's only participation was that he was told that we knew where he was and he gave the order to go in and get him (even that is now being questioned). Had it not been for the previous administration's policies that were implemented after 9/11 and the intelligence gaining tactics, that most liberals protested, UBL most likely would still be living in Pakistan.
Doesn't matter. The CEO of a corporation is ultimately responsible, good or bad. Obama likewise gets the credit for this mission.
So pls explain why – when we had OBL "cornered" up in Tora Bora – did Bush order that the troops pull back? Perhaps if OBL was killed there would be no need for the highly-profitable military/industrial complex to keep multiple wars open and funded? Where did all the Bush war $$ go to?
"(even that is now being questioned)."
by birthers and other conspiracy nuts who cannot give any credit at all for anything he does.
Look. Obama = Mission Accomplished. Bush = Speech on a boat. You call yourself an American and your whining about that? Whether you like it or not he's your President too. It's really telling 'cause the bitterness of the virulent anti-Obama rhetoric shows in every post y'all make. Wanna buy a Nathan Bedford Forrest Dart Board and really be the "firstest with the mostest".
Big difference. Obama was right, Bush wasn't.
I know what they were thinking. "What did I get myself into?" "I only wanted to change the world, not be the representative face of someones death."
Change your napkin.
Obama...I can always blame Bush if it fails right?
Biden...What am I doing right now
Hilary....I just know Bill is banging that intern
General Marshal.... We got this!
Steve-I know this might be a little difficult for you to comprehend but, intelligent people just don't think like that.
Such stern faces – maybe Hillary passed gas ?
Obama was thinking, "I hope this works, I can sure use it to deceive the people in the next election." Hillary was thinking, "I wish this was Monica".
Mitt Romney says" I'm just envious... How ...f,,Lucky Oba was ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"
What were they thinking? RE-ELECTION!!!
Mitt envy you ,,,,,,,,,,Dam Obam 🙂
They were thinking, "OMG, we aren't qualified to be doing this, I hope it works, our main objective is destroying America, but we may get some brownie points for it".
Vote for Ron Paul if you are a GOP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
If Paul is on the ballot, you and him will be voting for Obama. I will not.
Who will you vote for ?
"Biden told an audience in New York last week that Obama's decision to ultimately go ahead with decision shows.. " that even Jimmy Carter would have carried out the strike and that he himself was a total incompetent weenie. Nothing new there though.
Mitt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,classic Mitt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Shut up..you don't know what you are talking..Obama will win the 2012 election. He has done so many for our country at that time he took we were losing 600.000 jobs per month and now the market is hiring. Go Obama/Biden 2012 after that will be Hilaray"s turn.
I'm surprised that no one remembers that shortly after the bin Laden incident, a Chinook helicopter was brought down by an RPG, killing 30 Americans, including many members of Seal Team 6. There have been no other Chinook crashes in Afghanistan. How convenient for the Nobel Peace Prize winner.
It's a war,,,,,,dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what do you really want to say ?????????????? Dam Obazmo ????????
there are 300 members of seal team 6, I kind of think that maybe you are stretching a bit with a claim of conspiracy.
An American.....Excellent point!
But I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with someone publicly announcing the exact unit that conducted the operation the day before for everyone in the world to know!
I'm sure that a unit that prides itself on operating in total secrecy really appreciates it when a politician shines a spotlight on them for his own political gain.
"But I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with someone publicly announcing the exact unit that conducted the operation the day before for everyone in the world to know! "
it was announced in May that seal team 6 got him, the helicopter crash happened in August.
oh and by the way....
A chinook crashed April 2005 in Ghazni province, another chinook was shot down in June 2005 in Kunar province and another crashed in 2006 near Kabul so the claim that there have been no other crashes is also false.
It is a reflection of seeing someone being killed on live TV. It is reflection of uncertainty and fear. When you watch a movie, you know it is a movie but still you get deep into it. Here they all know it is true and live. I could imagine the situation.
Come on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Obama is not just watching killing a terro,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he is building up a new world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hitler was enthralled too as he watched his enemies being strangled. It's a trait of certain leaders.
No,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he hates Jews,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
God bless America,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
God bless President Obama,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
GOD is not blessing Obama. That man is evil.
LOL – the dimwitted knuckle-dragging haters here are really good for a daily laugh. Ignorance is bliss. It's epitomized here by many brainwashed neocons. Ya'll feel free to live in your amnesiac GOP re-written version of history. Many of us have enough intelligence to FACT check some of the faux noise spoutrage for ourselves. We agree to NOT live in your altered reality.
Snippet of actual communication between Seal Team 6 and Obama:
Seal Team 6 – "Mr. President, we got bin Laden! We're making the call you requested. Sorry we didn't call sooner but our lives and the mission were in too much danger to be distracted."
Obama to Seal Team 6 – "Remain calm soldier. I'll lead you through this. Remember the words of the great Dan Rather. Courage."
Seal Team 6 thinking to themselves – "Umm...okayyyy??"
Obama to his campaign advisors – "They've got bin Laden!! What should we do??"
Advisors – "Ask them if they can hold off for 15 months or so. We really need to use this for 2012."
Obama to his campaign advisors – "Uhhh, I think they already killed him."
Advisors – "Darn!! We'll, let's get some good photos...as if you we're taking charge and making all the critical decisions the whole time...leading them and advising them! Yeah!! We'll release this before the election and get some lackey CNN writer to make you look like you were the real hero and mastermind, not those who spent a lifetime training and risked their lives. Yeahh!! You'll get double credit! Anyone smart enough to see through this charade won't vote for you anyway."
Obama to advisors – "Good deal! Now, when can I sing in public? I want get the critical "cool vote' locked up!"
Advisors – "In time Mr. President. Let's wait until all the cool cable channels audiences will be at a peak. You'll need to remind them again of how awesome you are. Maybe more will be inspired to register to vote...and then actually vote...maybe vote when they run out to cash their unemployment and welfare checks. Great thinking Mr. President!! Let's get all that coordinated! Pronto!!"
don't suppose you write comic strips for a living. If not, you should think about it. Ur pretty good at fiction. 🙂
Can't believe you took the time to type that out.. oh wait.. maybe it's not an original thought after all, but cut/paste from some faux noise web page. hmmm.... I recind my prior comment about fiction. Plagiarism perhaps?
Gee, that really bothered you. I guess someone who refers to him/her self as "The Real Truth" takes a lot of things too seriously. And I wrote it all by myself. Google it's text if you don't believe me.
It was a joke. Politicians need to be made fun of. They can be ridiculous with their absurd campaign tactics. Republican are just as absurd if it makes you feel better.
I don't hate Obama and I'm glad and very thankful bin Laden was destroyed. (not killed, he doesn't deserved to humanized like that).
But my thanks go out to Seal Team 6 and our military... and our country. That includes Obama but not to the level of this article, which is just plain goofy.
@Scott – when read in print (most are not author material) humor, pun and joking are often lost in the vitriol posted in comment sections like this. I took it a being another "hater" peice – of which you can see plenty here. I don't think Obama is perfect either, but the hate posted toward him is FAR beyond anything I have ever seen. Things that are said anonymously would never be said face to face. Apologies for mis-reading your content.
No problem and thanks for clarifying. Sorry for any condescending remarks in my reply too.
This is great journalism. Well written, researched and non partisan. A+ Jamie Crawford
hillary is all surprised.....yes a dick can fit in a woman's butthole
From left to right at the table:
"When can we get out of here?"
"Don't be a squeaker, don't be a squeaker."
"My level 43 troll paladin is coming along splendedly."
"The walls are melting, man."
"My god, was that a squeaker?"
"Last time you saw me, I was sitting on the left side of the table."
I have to say this knowing it's true. The idea of many, many wives coupled to a single male and many, many children from a single male will contaminate the gene pool to the point that the younger generation will, and most likely already do, produce offspring with close relatives without even knowing it.
In-breeding does not enhance the human race, rather it depletes it and causes many problems.
That having been said, if you research to Muslim religion, the 'hero', Prophet Muhammad, was a pedophile which appears to be an acceptable practice among the Muslim faith
Agree with jack on this one:
Obama is one steely eyed missile man. It comes from an abundance of confidence and spiritual energy, and humbleness, and critical thinking. To go against your entire cabinet takes some huge cojones. He's got something special that's for sure, and it can't be manufactured. The Republicans are in way over their heads, they don't know what type of strategy to use, what to say, how to react. They're running around the country like chickens with their heads cut off tripping over themselves to comment on everything Obama says and does, but not putting much focus on what they would do, or why we should allow the same people who ruined us to come back into office.
You must be his sister. His mother is dead.
typical 'pub. Bringing a knife to a gunfight. Your resentment of the POTUS and your repulsive disrespect for the office of the Presidency is the reason why there aren't enough "republicans" left to field a fooball team. Good Luck in your next country, North Korea welcomes you and your tresonous bigotry.
Nichole....you Obama supporters make me laugh!
To hear you people talk Obama personally flew a helicopter into Pakistan and captured Bin Laden himself as opposed to being 10,000 miles away in the Sit Room. 🙂
Which is more than you can say about Bush Light.
Republicans are over their heads? If it were not for the machinery set in place during the Bush administration Osama would still be running around eating couscous. Now you boy in the WH wants to take all the credit. Typical... not for long though.
Your future in comedy is secured. You guys are so funny. Your weaknesses are glaringly apparent and the really funny part is you don't even realize how utterly churlish you sound. If anyone took you guys seriously you would have better cadidates than the current clown car Bozos. Fortunately in ten years 'pubs will be the new Whigs. LOL and many middle fingers to you.
Puke...this guys makes me sick..pretendiing to be a man is somehting he is not good at..Hillary was horrified( why we don 't need women in such a job), Obama feels sorry that he had to do this for his own political future and hoping he doesn't get any blow back, Biden is wondering when The Wizard of Oz is going to be on, tha's what he came for...
We are truly blessed to have a warrior-scholar of Obama's caliber in office during these challenging times. He is so cool he can defeat terrorism at five and wine and dine foreign dignitaries by seven. The mean streets of Chicago and his innate intellectual power (he went to Harvard) prepared him to lead the SEALs.
wake up up Nicole
Lets see the Repubs try to hit President Obama on National Security., In fact , the economy IS getting better, slowly, but it is getting better. It took Bush and His policies 7 years to destroy Americas economy and it took the House Teapublicans to destroy Americas AAA credit rating as stated by S&P. It will take a little while longer to recover. As President Obama said, move Forward. Not back to the Bush and Repub policies.
No wonder Obama is leading among women. You see one photo of him watching a gripping video and conclude that he's strong on National Defense.
reagan,80 you are just another misogynistic pig like limpd***. And you know absolutely Nothing about national defense.
And you are right, President Obama will win the American womens votes because they know when they see pigs like you.
TO lolol, I know a hell of alot more about economics then you do. You need to educate yourself.
Like I said, Bush and his policies destroyed Americas economics AND now Mitt has hired Bush's advisors.
Move Forward, NOT back
the debt is growing exponentially every day.
the fed still creates funny fiat money that devalues the currrency.
you have failed economics 101
MaryM.....Yes, you're right....the Dems are doing a great job on National Security....especially the part about cutting $500 billiion from Defense to fund the Welfare State which includes 50,000 Airmen cut from the Air Force, 80,000 Soldiers from the Army, and numerous new technologies put back on the shelf so China and others can develop them first. Great job, Dems.
And yeah, you're right....it was the Tea Party that caused the downgrade in our nation's credit rating.....it had nothing to do with the $5 trillion in new debt racked up by the Obama & Pelosi regime or the fact that Obama-Care has a cost estimate of $2 trillion every 6 years starting in 2014......
I'm sure those factors played NO ROLE in the credit agencies making their calculations! 🙂
do some research 4J, S&P specificly stated that the reason for the downgrade was because of the HOUSE teapublicans saying "Let America default on it debte"
Do some research pls.. but then its not likely that FACTS will get in the way of your truth. Yes, huge deficits. Why? Because it was necessary to shore up the floundering economy left after 8 yrs of Bush. how about 700,000+ jobs a month being lost; a $1.3T Dubya deficit; an $850B TARP bailout for "too big to fail banks"; TWO unfunded wars; a debt ceiling already at 99% of it's legislated limit – after Bush raised it 26 times on his watch;a McConnell/Boehner mandate to make Obama a 1-term president (and look at everything they have done to make that happen); stoopid political grandstanding by the right causing a downgrade of our debt. All so they can blame Obama. No, it;s not ALL Dubya's fault. Obama just happens to be the POTUS that got saddled with fixing the mess. It will take more than 4 yrs to fix the problems we face, and going "back to the way it was" with the Grand Obstructionist Party is NOT the solution.
Please tell us What MItt would do different. You do know that Mitt has hired Bush advisors. Dont you?
obama is a parasite on the back of Seal Team Six!
If obama wants to know how he got osama and how pelosi lied he (obama) needs to read Jose Rodriguez's book "Hard Measures"
Vote comrades soros, van jones and obama OUT!!!
And you think Jose Rodriguez has more knowledge than our top government officials? You're dumber than a stone unturned.
Since Jose was the guy feeding the info to them, yes, I think he knows more than they do.
Get a clue Rodriguez was the top offical reporting to congress!!!
Kill any Kennedys lately?
The seals are slamming Obozo for making it political. Why dont you report the news CNN, instead of beating a beat horse trying to advance you messiah... Thanks to social media and how one sided the main stream media is it wont be long before liberal jokes like you guys and nbc will have no say in what makes the news and what doesnt... God bless america
Troll! Troll in the dungeon!
This is a great article. Make it about cheering for your team if you must, the rest of us proud Americans will be happy to welcome you when your petty tantrum is over.
Im proud of him for making the call, ONE YEAR AGO...
You're proud of him for finally relenting and giving the SEALS his "okay", TEN MONTHS AFTER THE CIA TOLD HIM BIN LADEN WAS IN THE COMPOUND????
You are a troll, And if you really believe the **** that you spew, you can leave now.
I would love to leave you in the dark... but heres the thing, if even a little truth slips out liberalism fails... commy
AM, you are NOT an American, you are a POC troll and you CAN leave now.
You should change your screen name to "Great American".
"Great Satan" would be more appropriate.
another right winger calling Obama the messiah, you guys seriously need to stop deifying him on such a regular basis, hes only human.
God bless the president. This was one of the toughest and riskiest decisions any president has had to make, and Obama made it in spite of his vice president's reservations. Had it failed, the republicans would still be gloating and pontificating about it. But it didn't fail. It worked, and the world is rid of one of the most cynical crazy creeps of modern times. And good riddance.
Amen!
What about sending 4 million americans over seas to protect the freedom of all of europe. Clearly you failed History if you think this was the toughest decision an american president has ever made... What about dropping the bomb on hiroshima, what about the doolittle raid, what about freeing the slaves in the face of a southern revolt... i could do this all day... your a fool and your leader has 6 months until hes evicted.... I thank mr obama for making the desicion, but were not gonna need to build a shrine any time soon
Drinking the bat-shit flavored Kool-Aid again, eh?
Hey WAr criminal general sherman.... do you ever say anything with some fiber to it.... i like how you dont allow comments either
ONE of .... you idiot!
Welcome to the 21st century. Clearly you don't belong here. See Mr.Pebody for a solution to your problem, which is you've outlived your relevence.
So I guess George W. Bush had nothing to do with the problems we're currently facing? I'm pretty sure he took 8 years to ruin this country. Everything can not be fixed within 4 years. The real problem is race of course none of you will say that!
Joe, the people who were really making the "risky" moves and were really the "gutsy" ones were the SEALs.
You and everyone else on the left are trying to equate a mere politician making a decision that would be risky for his career with true American heroes who were taking risks with their own LIVES.
See the difference?
Who's the Boss?
"Toughest and riskiest"????? The CIA told him TEN MONTHS BEFORE HE SAID "OKAY". If that was his 'toughest and riskiest", his average day must be a breeze.
Definitely,,,,,,,Bin Laden is not the most dangerous guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,The most dangerous guys are in our Congress,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I amend my comment....SOME people on this board really hate the president. In fact, so much so that they belittle this successful mission to kill public enemy #1. If Obama had failed, they would be blowing up the boards with gleeful declarations of how it was the worst presidential decision ever.
Iconic? I think its disgusting and an example of how morally banrupt this country has become to celebrate assasination. It reminds me of Hitler watching the death throes of his alleged conspirators being strangled with piano wire and hung on meat hooks.
And if president FDR had managed to send out a mission to kill Hitler, would that have justified gloating?
Do you see anyone celebrating it this picture?
No. I see Obama looking scared. Biden trying to figure out what's going on. And, Hillary burping.
....AND YOUR SOLUTION IS WHAT? THINK OF HOW MANY LIVES WOULD'VE BEEN SAVED IF WE HAD HAD dRONES IN 1942. Werner Von Braun, founder of our Space Program was a Nazi War Criminal saved and put to use by our CIA so the Hitler reference is made moot by that very Fact. By any means necessary.
I think in this context by "iconic" they mean representative of the time/occasion. Nobody celebrated or gloated. It was a poignant moment that had to come.
I think that photo will go down in history as being as important as the photo of JFK jr. saluting his father's passing coffin, or "The Kiss" in Times Square at the end of WWII.
I don't
It will go down as an example of pure propaganda. Goebbels would have loved this administration.
And he'll rise from the dead if the next one is Republican.
once obozo is out of office the liberal media will quit showing meaningless photos to try and help their messiah
you sound sooooo, Un-American
You and your kind are what's meaningless.
AM, you are a POC troll and it trolls like you that are destroying America
Jackbehumble: Yes. It will if the weak minded have their way.
Obama is one steely eyed missile man. It comes from an abundance of confidence and spiritual energy, and humbleness, and critical thinking. He's got something very special that's for sure. The Republicans don't know what type of strategy to use, what to say, how to react. They're running around the country tripping over themselves to comment on everything Obama says and does, but nothing about what they would do, or why on earth we should allow the same people who ran us in the ditch to come back into office and finish us off. Obama will definitely be re-elected in november, primarily because that's what he wants to do.
Amen brother. We have a good captain.
People on this board really hate the president.
Yeah...............they're called racists.
Leave it to the conservatives to take one of the proudest moments of American history and bitch it up with blame and hatred for The President.
This is why the GOP is in shambles.
Amen
Republicans don't need this incident to "bitch" about! We have plenty other things to bitch about, like the economy, jobs, immagration, wanting a real American in the white house, his cabinet, and all of his LIES! The lies are starting to catch up with Obama! Change is coming & GOPs can,t wait!
LOL – change is already here.. and YOU don't like it, or GET IT! The failed neocon policies from Reagan's supply-side, trickle-down economics, theft of SS funds, increased taxes, Bush's unfunded wars, WMD, HUGE DEFICITS, 6,000 US troops dead et al, is what go us where we are today. The haters posting here should save some face and do some FACT checking before regurgitating the spoutrage from Faux Noise. You might learn something.
Obama ain't perfect, but he's doing PDG in my book – given the crappy hand he inherited, and the actions of the do-nothing Grand Obstructionist Party over the last 3 yrs. Anyone who puts party ahead of country should be tried for treason. That's most of the GOP Congress IMHO. You want change? Wait for Nov. The party of no has no platform (some ideas and plans pls), no candidate (Mittens, BBWAHAHA), no policies to fix what they say is brokenn (The Ryan budget, really?) and no chance in Nov. Even the emperor of evil Mr Bayner himself is desperate as he knows he's going to have to pass on the gavel come Jan. Hehehehe !
Did you say you guys have enough to complain about and then added on 'having A real American in the white house'. The fact that you can say that makes your argument irrelevant and lets everyone know that you are a racist bastard. I fail to understand how the highest security intelligence in the world failed in background checking a possible and current president. Do you really think this crucial detail was simply overlooked? Look, the fact is you can't complain, for the first time in decades the wave of immigrants is lessening not raising, the economy is slowly moving back on track compared to what your little idol George Bush had left it. lol at your people who find anything and everything to say about Obama but the simple thing is, whether he is elected or not, When HIstory tells itself, and that it will, and it will show the racism and bigotry in this country, Barack Husein Obama will be marked as one of the greatest presidents.
Proudest moments? I think it's a shame that anything related to 9/11 had to happen.
libs make up less then 20% of this country... whos in shambles????
Disappointing to read such pettiness from so many. This photo should make us all proud.
Couldn't agree more, Ray. Great moment. Tough decision. Brave and dedicated soldiers. To discount it all as some sort of non-event or faked event...how ridiculous. These are the same people who think we never went to the moon. Same people who think President Barack Obama was born outside the country. Nothing will be enough for them. Ever.
Obama: "Gee, it's sure cold in here"
Al-Qaeda leaders are mostly Muslim clerics. Islamic clerics are colluded with Muslim monarchs and leaders to perpetuate their satanic Islamic religion, in exchange, Islamic clerics exert power over their people as judges, police, jurors, inquisitors, administrators, etc. Islam grants "divine rights" to monarchs, leaders and powerful people, they can seize their countries wealth and natural resources (oil) entirely for themselves, they can have hundreds of concubines and all the sexual pleasures, they can free or incarcerate anyone and always have the last word on any civil, military or religious matter. No wonder they must impose their diabolic Islamic religion otherwise Satan will take away their privileges.
look at hillary. she's the only person in the room who doesn't have the same frozen face. somehow her expression comes down on the side of concern for our seals, the k-9's in the operation and a successful end to the mission–with or without osama. that's real terroron her face. the picture of her is a classic of her public life. THAT picture is the one worth one thousand words.
If we could only spend as much time on the real issues as we do on self promotion the country might be better off. I think it's great Bin Ladin is dead, but Mr. President can you please tell the American people what you planned to do about the 22 million American's out of work. What are your plans to reduce a deficit that continues to grow at an alarming rate and that if we don't reduce it further our loaning money if interest rates go up may well exceed 700 billion a day in interest. Medicare is on the brink of bankruptcy and if you don't offer an alternative solution it may be gone for good, we don't need more rhetoric from you or Romney, we need solutions not grand standing. Please Mr. President I am begging you, what are you going to do about the desperate state of our economy, the future of America is in the balance, what are your solutions to the problems, the past is the past, what is your future resolutions to reduced deficit spending, job creation, and saving medicare?
Did it ever occur to you and the Obama haters that our president does have plans, only to be thwarted by selfish people in Congress? And, no, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, nor do I think Obama is perfect. I'm just an American frustrated and disappointed with our Congress–see their approval ratings for yourself. Back on topic, this photo is a reminder that there's one less dangerous psychopath in the world and that our President does indeed have "a backbone like a ramrod".
That would make two of us, registered as an independent, I do not dislike Obama nor do I dislike Romney, in fact, what I do dislike is the bickering that solves nothing, kind of like war. If we can't get a long we go to war, so now since Dem and Rep can't get a long the country suffers. I agree its Congress, but it appears to me that even though Clinton was a liar and a cheat he was still able to get things done with Congress, with Obama it does appear he does not have the leadership to pass legislation and my guess is it will be easier to rid us of one elected official instead of many. With the "Tea Baggers" spending enormous amounts of money as we vote to remove one they get another one in somewhere else.
All I can say is, if he signs CISPA he will not be reelected. At least I will not vote for him. Obama successfully contributed to quiet suspension of the the US constitution.
I think it's total failure on the behalf of the obama regime to have not been able to capture Osama Bin Laden to be tried for the 9/11 attacks. I would of liked to know if he really was the master mind behind the attacks or just some OWS type person with celebrity like stature with the people in his region and just claimed credit for it because so many of those people are anti-American. I would of liked the entire thing to be televised to the entire world without anything behind closed doors. Truth and closure was owed after 10 years of war, but denied by obama when the kill ordered was issued.
See it for what it is. If it looks and sounds like bull$ hit, it probably is.
When I think President a picture of a person straddling as many corpse's as he or she can and tooting their own horn for votes does not come to mind. Yet this all obama seems to be able to do, pathetic.
A witness chair would not have been nearly as photogenicas a dead-on-the-dirt-floor "shot" for Mr. Obama's reelection campaign.
Are you serious.. ?? People like you are horrible.. I am glad he is dead and I hope it hurt badly.. You'd spend another several million in tax dollars feeding, housing and paying for a defense team for this dirtball; rag-head ?? Really.. maybe you should move to another country.. Please.. no more posts from you, ever...
You love the feeling of security don't you?
What if it's a false security? Why do believe things you are told with no evidence? Are you Christian? That would explain it.
Who cares if he was killed or not. The LAST thing we as a nation needed was to have him a prisoner. The nut-jobs would come out of the woodwork. Best that the most evil man since Hitler die in shame with a bullet to the head and be thrown in the ocean. Something tells me that no matter what the outcome of any trial would have been, people like you would still be unsatisfied. Some people (i.e. ppl like you) just like to see the world burn.
I'd be willing to bet you that if this story is even halfway real, he IS in a jail cell. Another explanation as to why they wont show pictures of him dead.
Gee, I wonder why Guantanamo Bay is still operating? Think about it...
I'd be willing to bet you that if this story is even halfway real, he IS in a jail cell. This is another explanation as to why they wont show pictures of him dead.
Gee guys, I wonder why Guantanamo Bay is still operating? Think about it...
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Obama doesn't "owe" you a thing. You are an excellent example of what has gone wrong with this country. You are attempting to turn an American accomplishment into a Democratic failure. Pathetic.
Pushing Obama's reelection campaign are we news media?
Main Stream Media – pushers for Mr. Obama's power addiction
seriously? it's the year anniversary of the operation that brought down the one person this country had been pursuing for a decade for crimes against the people of the US and you think the media is pandering to Obama? unbelievable.
Great job Mr. President ! One of the toughest decisions you had to make. God Bless you !
"Toughest decision" – for Mr. Obama. Part of the job as president – for anyone else.
Lillo, I must have missed something. What "tough" decision? We have been after Bin Laden for years (since the previous President initiated the hunt), so what is so tough about completing that effort?
Hmmm...
Many amateurs here who say "it was part of the job". It was a tough call because you are going into a soverign country without their permission and without knowing for sure if the target is real. A failure would have huge repurcussions from many angles . Give where credit is due.
Tough because they where not 100% sure he was there and if the usa raided that compound and found nothing it would have looked very bad.
"Stellar photo-op" "Homerun to reelection" "Wonderful cover for our assassination of the American economy and the American system" "Bin Laden is a noble martyr for our socialist cause"
Whoever "Ummm" is, they sure sound a lot like a cross between Glenn Beck, That fat drug addict with a radio show, and the weeper of the house because all they do is blame blame blame and whine whine whine...
Everybody looks Stone-Cold in the photo except Hillary, lol.
Just not a good angle to see Mrs. Clinton's Stone-Cold heart and soul.
Biden was thinking: I wonder if they have Ice cream in Pakistan. I sure want Ice Cream right now. I hope no innocent Ice Cream was hurt in this "raid."
Obama was thinking: I hope this covers my failures enough. After all, I did end a round of golf early to take this picture. I can't wait to take all the credit for what some brave men did.
Hilary was thinking: OMG I hope the American people are dumb enough to buy this line of crap.
Bill Daley was thinking: I hope they don't want actual pictures of the dead body, after all we don't have them. And maybe no one will notice that there is no kidney dialysis machine that Bin Laden needed to stay alive.
After all, if showing the pictures of the dead body was so "inflammatory," wouldn't still bragging about it be too? The real heroes in this story, SEAL team Six, are tired of being paraded for doing their jobs.
Any videos from Bin-Laden refuting his death yet?
They were all thinking...."we didn't have the balls to join the military so we're glad we're sitting on THIS side of the war underpaying people to do our dirty work"....all except for the Military Joint Chiefs of course.
Perhaps they were thinking how this would make the previous administration look and feel whom also had a majority who dared don a military uniform..ie Cheney, Wolfiwitz..etc. Plus, They probably felt a little guilty that they spent a fraction of what Bush did when Bush spent a trillion+ on 2 perpetual wars, thousands killed and still no Osama being brought to justice.
George W. Bush – 2 years AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard. And an honorable discharge to boot.
The GOP is filled with chickenhawks.
Well Done Mr. President, the National Security Team, and SEAL Team Six.
OBAMA/BIDEN/FIRST LADY MICHELLE 2012!!!
Be careful what you wish for, Obama in 2012 will be the begining of the end of YOUR rights, he will chip away the 1st & 2nd ammendments and drive the US into Socialism whichi is what SOROS his Handler wants
We have been after Osama since 9/11 Obama did NOTHING
Give me a break! You folks are so delusional it's not even funny any more. You are more likely to shoot yourself in the head than Obama is on removing the 1st and 2nd AM. Do you even have a basic understanding of what that takes??
Let me educate you... a constitutional amendment has to gain a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress, and DOES NOT INVOLVE the POTUS – at all! And that is never going to happen with the Grand Obstructionist Party controlling the house. So , pls open mouth, remove foot.
And.. since I hit "post" by mistake.. FWIW – the US has been a socialist country for some 70+ yrs now. SS, Medicare and Medicaid are social programs... want to do away with those right?
BO-JOE-MO must GO!!!
The Obama team could not keep their giddy little mouths closed and instead BRAGGED UP ON THE EXACT SEALS TEAM that completed the mission, putting them and others lives at risk.
Silent leadership strengthens the followers convictions.....you guys really screwed up.
Obama had a success and you just can't stand it, can you? God forbid something good should happen to this country, right?
You did read the part about nobody but the command team knew about the raid until AFTER they cleared Pakistani air space? You do read, don't you? Mor0n.
No matter what the President do, it will not be enough for you haters!... you are going to be in for a the shock of your lives when he is elected for a 2nd term..... get used to it!
Academy award winners.
wannabes
I find it funny that the only pictures we are allowed to see, are of them looking at who knows what.
We can show Saddam being hung and children running down the street on fire in Vietnam, but we can't see Osama? What a joke our society has become for believing in whatever nonsense your farmers tell you. Get back to work and pay those taxes sheep.
Most in room thinking: "I hope we don't get caught." president thinking: Why are we looking at a green screen?" President’s wife replies out loud: “you don’t know?” President replies out loud: Get out of my mind!” President’s wife replies:”you don’t have one. Remember?”
lol
We can show Saddam being hung and children running down the street on fire in Vietnam, but we can't see Osama?
THOSE PICTURES WILL NOT BE SHOWN ANY TIME SOON,SO FORGET IT, I BELIEVE OSAMA IS DEAD SO WHO GIVE A SH..T WHAT YOU THINK.
Wow, thanks for yelling, I couldn't hear you at first.
I suppose you're the religious type? They love to believe in make believe stories.
"We can show Saddam being hung and children running down the street on fire in Vietnam, but we can't see Osama? "
ok, once again for those that seem to be unable to grasp the idea.......it was not the government that released the above mentioned photos, they had nothing to do with those so to compare those photos being released to the osama ones being released is a foolish comparison.
Is Obama wearing a golf shirt under that jacket? Did they interrupt his play time? And if Romney can't be president because Obama thinks he wouldn't have ordered the killing, what does that say about Joe Biden's fitness to be president?
Biden's nay vote shows there are grown ups in the room who can express different points of view. That is what smart people do. THey surround themselves with other smart people, listen to the opinions, and decide, as opposed to the last administration where ignorance was celebrated and the primary requirement was being a yes man.
There are a hell of a lot more reasons why romney shouldnt be president than that,
Obama is one steely eyed missile man. It comes from an abundance of confidence and spiritual energy, and humbleness, and critical thinking. To go against your entire cabinet takes some huge cojones. He's got something special that's for sure, and it can't be manufactured. The Republicans are in way over their heads, they don't know what type of strategy to use, what to say, how to react. They're running around the country like chickens with their heads cut off tripping over themselves to comment on everything Obama says and does, but not putting much focus on what they would do, or why we should allow the same people who ruined us to come back into office. Obama will definitely be re-elected in november, primarily because that's what he wants to do.
If President Clinton would have done his job Bin Laden would have been dead before 9/11, 3 times we had him in our sights and 3 times Pres.Clinton said NO
FAIL
Fail. Clinton went after him once and missed, and had a second shot, but decided there would be too many civilian casualties. Try agai, loser.
Yet another example of neocon revisionist history! The one common right-wing pervasive issue I see is that they all have selective AMNESIA! FACTS have little to do with their spoutrage. Yawn....
Funny! Leave it to CNN to try their best and follow Odumbo's lead. He should just come out and thank the Bush administration for all its efforts that paved the way for this to happen on Odumbo's watch, but that would make him honest and we all know he is anything but!! Look it up Demos! Dig and find out every step that led up to this raid and you will see Bush admin fingerprints all over it. No secrets, it's all public. This guy is such a joke and when the media tries to help they make themselves an even bigger joke. Pathetic!
Thank the bush mis-admin for WHAT? Leaving a complete and total mess for President Obama to clean up?
To bad he hasn't even picked up the broom yet.
Oh, if Bush is responsible for the good stuff, does that mean Bush is responsible for the bad stuff too? Like the economy?
Can't have it both ways.
They were thinking, "Hey, this is a great photoshopped video."
No. They were watching the al-Qaeda gay p0rn videos.
situation-room photo again? really? this has already been admitted as a staged photo-op and has absoultely nothing to do with the actual operation. please stop trotting out this tired garbage propaganda
stop hating because you are going to see these picture for a long time.
Hey Joe (the plumber?), go back to Faux News, where your rude comments - calling everybody including a Republican (Bob Gates) a liar doesn't wash here.
Obama is saying "Damn, You pulled me off the golf course for this? "
Actually he's saying "Damn.. Bush is STILL in Crawford??? He's not at the day care center?"
Flippin Mittens should just sit down, shut up and listen to someone with much more experience, intelligence, and wisdom: his opponent.
Perhaps you should do the same.
LMAO...........................white people just don't accept reality. They continue to live on the banks of DENIAL, no matter what.
It never fails. There's always some racist that feels it is their duty to turn eveything into a racial issue. You are that racist.
In a past interview, Clinton also mentioned that her hand was in front of her mouth because she was trying to not cough at the same moment the pic was taken. It wasn't an expression of shock or horror.
That's easy; typical politician considerations. "How can I take credit for this if it works, and how can I blame in on somebody else if it doesn't."
The re-release of this photo is an election season propaganda campaign. OBL is dead because SEALs like engaging targets and are good at it. OBL was a target because he was found via rendition, enhanced interrogation techniques, and Guantanamo detention which everyone you’re looking at in that picture OPPOSED! Except SECDEF Gates. They opposed the means to obtain information that enabled action, yet take credit for the action. Shameless self-promoting leftists.
The US is a signator to international treaties forbidding “torture”, but “torture” is not defined. While waterboarding works, it is but one technique among many. If there’s consensus that it results in enduring corporal harm (which it doesn’t), then ascertain other effective techniques and use them. Democrats want to give unlawful combatants milk and cookies with eight hours sleep a day whenever they want it. Whatever techniques are agreed upon, DO NOT PUBLICLY DISCUSS THEM for political points. That’s like a coaching staff arguing about their playbook and announcing to the other teams which plays they will and won’t run.
Hooray for the SEALs, Boo/two thumbs down for political opportunists.
Frank, say your name and then say my name.
Really???? He gives you the facts and tells you the truth and rather than coming back with some intelligent response all you can say is "grow up"???? Yeah, I think it is YOU who needs to grow up and learn how to have an intelligent debate. Or could it be that there is NO answer????
Actually Frank is right. Libtard.
people who rely on names like Libertard or Republikan are the simpletons. The world is much more complex than your little bw viewpoints account for
Well said Frank.
we are not stupid photo or not we remember what happened, Obama is going to get my vote anyway.
Frank – what's your point? That we shouldn't talk state secrets or post pics like the one above ? Is this specific to the current POTUS or applicable across the board?
Well, we all know the Republicans wouldn't have played this to the hilt, right?
Did Bush feel the same excitement watching a live feed of WTC1 being hit?
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/the-protection-racket/
You need help
Bush felt nothing. Still doesn't.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/interior-attack/
In case you missed the other post.... YOU NEED HELP!!!!!!!!
Yes, and the US actually did not make it to the moon...they just fake it....and then 9/11..the world trade was bombed by the Jews....the planes did fly into the world trade...Muslims do not do these things they are the best community in the world....living in a majority Muslim country, you are subjected to the most bizare conspiracy theories in the world....a lot of them are in deep denial....
Denial runs through the middle east. Hahahahahahahaha
Plenty of pictures on the moon....zero pictures of bin Laden.
The Real story of Bin Laden Death / Lies in Bin laden death raid.
Bin Laden died of natural cause. Bin Laden body is worth US$ 10 millions. Islamic culture allows blood money. So the guys (pak military) decided to sell the body for US$ 10 millions. US politicians decided to make a political capital out of Bin Laden dead body. US deputed one chopper to collect the body. The first chopper flown by a Navy Seal flying through the ravines of Hindu Kush mountains in dark night crashed on a plain land not able to land near Bin laden’s house. the body was moved to pak airbase and airlifted. The unanswered questions are?
1. The president and his lady secretary watched the muted video, since the lady may get terrorized. Did navy seals went with a gear with no audio. where is the audio.
2. Bin Laden body collected after many hours of death will not bleed. That is why no photo of Bin laden shot and bleeding to death is released.
3. what happened to the body of others who were killed in the raid.
4. Why the doctor who showed off Bin laden did not escape along with the navy seals and this doctor is in custody of Pakistan. It is a common sense for the doctor that his life is in danger and should be the first person to escape to USA. No one has sought asylum in the bin laden project in USA who is protecting a blind Chinese man in US embassy at China.
How come the US society believes such stories with so many holes.
please just stay in your basement and don't interact with people.
take your meds yet?
That was some quality stuff. The part where I couldn't control my laughter anymore.... " USA who is protecting a blind Chinese man in US embassy at China."
do you think you are?? Go back under your pet rock.
I commend you for your ability to piss off the proles. Well done. You should consider a career in politics.
Your future as an author of fiction books is looking fairly promising. Very entertaining. Thanks for the laugh.