North Korea's rocket...gone in 81 seconds
By Barbara Starr
New details emerged Friday about the failed launch of the North Korean rocket. The rocket failed in the second stage of its flight, Pentagon spokesman George Little said Friday.
A different U.S. official told Security Clearance that the rocket failure happened 81 seconds into the flight, based on preliminary U.S. analysis.
The first stage successfully separated from the rocket before the failure, the U.S. official said. That first stage fell into the Yellow Sea approximately 165 kilometers (about 100 miles) west of Seoul, South Korea, according to a statement from U.S. Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command.
Based on the U.S. government information, it appears the first stage dropped "well east of the intended path," according to analyst David Wright from the Union of Concerned Scientists.
The U.S. are analyzing "precisely what happened along the trajectory," Little told reporters at the Pentagon on Friday.
"One possibility is that there was a guidance problem early on that caused the rocket to begin to veer from its path and that North Korea shut down the engines once that happened," Wright wrote on his blog, All Things Nuclear. "Whether this was the scenario, or whether there was a catastrophic failure of some kind, may become clear as more information emerges."
Wright writes that the short duration of the flight means the North Koreans would have gotten relatively little useful information from the launch that could help it advance its weapons program.
The flight lasted longer than the one in 2006, when the North Korean missile failed after 40 seconds in flight, but was shorter than the 2009 test, in which the rocket traveled 2,300 miles in several minutes before the third stage fell into the Pacific Ocean.
With the failure, the United States is now concerned that a suspected underground nuclear test could come “sooner rather than later,” a U.S. official said, because the United States believes leader Kim Jong-Un needs to show some strength.
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when it fell I felt bad for the families who the people in the rocket.
Feel bad for the people behind the rocket failure. They either probably got all executed or send to the Gulag.
What's wrong with giant rubber band? I got a rocket in my pocket, too bad it didn't fall back in North Korea.
looked like they would've got 300 feet if they released eareilr, and some people listed some better ideas of how to make it go even further, seems they should've looked more into it before wasting 50 bottles of coke . Anticlimactic is all Im saying . I expected a WOOOOSHHH
Why locket no fry???? bling me twinkies now!!
Good to know that my common sense logic is not that bad after all Unfortunately there is lots of (and i mean ralely) lots of work before me until I'll be able to do it myself. Anyway, could you please share your thoughts and say which way would you go? Would you draw a shadow casting object on top of a shadow itself or would you use a pixel shader to remove portions of a shadow that cover the shadow casting object? Or maybe some other way? Any clues?
Boeing (ABL YAL 1A) Series Airborne laser system using a chemical oxygen iodine laser, with a range of 400 miles +.
Usually mounted to a modified Airforce 747-400 series aircraft (mounted in the nose) from Edwards AFB, CA. It can deliver 10 + shots before needing to be refuelded (the laser). The purpose of the system is to shoot down a rocket or missle in its intiall phase of flight. developed over the last 10-12 years it has been tested and in fact it works. The Airforce said they mothballed them about 6 weeks ago. The dod claims it wasnt responsible. If we admitted to this North Korean tanks would be rolling South. This way we can maintain plausable denyability. It also allows The North koreans to come back to the peace table( if cooler heads prevail). You could even take this a step further (if youre a conspiracy theorist) and say something like a collaboration with other country's for a different purpose is in effect here. (just Saying). I would like to also note the laser can be put on a different platform like ground based or say a ship. Russia and China supposidly have such systems. Do your own research, come to your own conclusions, but know that youre sleeping peacefully tonight because people are watching our backs even if you never know there names or what they do.
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We have work to do America!
Gleeful laughter at Kim Jong-un. What a stupid spoiled brat. Now I know why he failed his middle school exams three times and then finally dropped out.
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Every nation have right.
UN is violating that right.
fuck UN.
Every citizen of north korea has rights
The regime is violating those rights
Fuck the regime
YOU GOTTA FIGHT
FOR YOUR RIGHT
TO PAAAAARRRRTTTAAAAYYY....
Spoken like a true dumb dumb. How the rights of the starving people in N. Korea?
Spoken like a true dumb dumb. How about the rights of the starving people in N. Korea?
81 secs. That's faster then sex.
Speak for yourself.
The real question here is "why did the rocket fail" answers; Plato: For the greater good. Karl Marx: It was a historical inevitability. Thomas de Torquemada: Give me ten minutes with the scientists and I'll find out. Timothy Leary:Because that's the only kind of trip the Establishment(US) would let it take. Oliver North: National Security was at stake. Albert Einstein: Whether the rocket failed or not depends upon your frame of reference. Buddha: If you ask this question, you deny your own rocket nature. Darwin: It was the logical next step in human evolution. Johann von Goethe:The eternal hen-principle made it fail. Ronald Reagan: I forget. GEORGE W BUSH;We don't really care why the rocket failed. We just want To know if the rocket is on our side or not.The rocket is either against us or for us.There is no middle ground here. John Sununu:The US Air Force was only too happy to provide the laser, so quite understandably the rocket availed himself of the opportunity.
or their heatshield was for $#@#
That's the last thing Kim Jong-Un needed, and he has now opened a window for rivals to gain more power. The only thing worst than loosing power is the illusion of loosing power. I would not be surprised if rivals or perhaps outside forces tempered with the program to make the young leader look weak and out of touch with reality.
and the only thing worse than the illusion of loosing power is losing power.
All i can say about this catastrphic failure is, it was GOING to happen. Shame on the North Korean Regime for once again taking a vital food U.S. aid deal away from the countries people. Despite international concerns and economic ratching of sanctions, Multi lateral diplomatic talks are the only way to resolve any issues despite the same old rehtoric from the North Koreans but not to completely shut them out. It is painful yes,but they should not be underestimated.
I lost power for an hour the other day, couldn't watch TV, couldn't use the internet, etc. Almost died.
Anyone old enough to remember the Vanguard program in the 50's ? They called it the"civil service rocket"... "can't make it work and it can't be fired"...look out...north Korea is duplicating 1955 technology !
guess I'm the oldest old f*rt out here.....if we outlaw any furthur technical advancement here they'll be a danger in 67 years...of course I'll be 132 and won't hear the air-raid sirens............................
Meanwhile, in an odd looking 747 flying below DPRK radar coverage, a scientist skilled in chemical lasers was heard to have muttered "Pull".
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Failed rocket launch and you just starved your people to do it.
At some point the people must just say the heck with it and rise up.
Death woulod be sweeter than living under this family of losers.
We keep sending the North Koreans humanitarian aide, yet they still build rockets and set off nukes. The people of N. Korea are responsible for leaving this government in power and we must start treating them as part ot the problem. Time to shut off all aide.
Hard to rise up against well fed people with guns while you and your family are starving to death and don't have the energy to throw a rock.
we shot it down with a laser,just like the other one.any country that can build a nuke should be able to succesfully launch a rocket.we have the capabilities to do this,and i think we just did.
I was wondering when the conspiracy nuts would chime in. What would the US have to gain from shooting down a decades old rocket that every country in the world had it's eyes on?
Some rocket scientist and his entire family are being tortured right now in a labor camp right in north korea
they can only build something when they steal the tech savy,or when someone gives it to them......
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BWAAHAHAHA! I knew it would fail. Man I should have bet serious money that.
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WOW, How STONED you sound!
I'd say he (or she) has had at least 30-40 mg of d9, and is feeling no pain. Ahhh, how I miss the good old daze.
This guy is aways stoned. Pay him no mind.
That's easy for you to say.
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huh?
In spite of the derogatory comments and the plethora of talking heads as well as other self-pronounced experts frothing off about how hard it is to launch a rocket, bear in mind that several private, non-government connected outfits have either successfully gotten into near space and/or orbital space or are on their way to success.
Mojave Aerospace Ventures (Paul Allen)
Virgin Galactic (Sir Richard Branson)
Copenhagen Suborbital (Kristian von Bengtson and Peter Madsen)
The North Koreans with their military-backed communist dictatorship and totally subjugated populace will most likely suffer additional failures, but sooner or later, they will achieve their goal.
Face it, it just ain't that hard. All the serious technical and engineering hurdles have been tackled. It is not like the Wright brothers ground-up efforts where they had to invent aeronautical engineering along the way.
I think one of the (many) problems here is NK's ability to get parts and materials, leading them to cut corners or use sub par materials. You could argue the UN sanctions are working, if this is the case.
Word to your collective mothers.
It was wind sheer, I tell you!
They wont succeed if the world quits sending them food.
If the country can pay for nuclear devices and a rocket program, they sjhould be able to feed themselves.
Time to let the nation starve to death. That or they will rise up and take control of the govt.
"Face it, it just ain't that hard. All the serious technical and engineering hurdles have been tackled. It is not like the Wright brothers ground-up efforts where they had to invent aeronautical engineering along the way."
Wow. Really? Way to talk down spacecraft design and rocket science. When you design those things, the mission requirements, fuel, guidance and navigation, and available materials change the design limitations. New designs often result from many failed and expensive tests. Interesting that you've mentioned a few companies chasing for sub-orbital capability – never mind they're getting financially backed by the government. Take that away and do you think they'd achieve their designs? A lot of factors play into the successful design of machines capable of entering sub-orbits and higher. It's not like cutting similar shapes from construction paper like you imagine.
They should try something a little less ambitious than launching a rocket into space. Perhaps, if they tried enough, they could successfully launch a balloon into the air without blowing it up into a million pieces one day.
Like birthday party balloons?
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English isn't your first language, is it...?
i wonder who allowed those idiots to live past birth?????.....they dont have a clue about all CAPS either it seems...
It's filled with human waste shit.
It'll be some time before NK will do this again – almost certainly the entire project team was executed after the failure.
Ground/ship based laser could help with tese annoyances.
Ground based Laser could have assisted.
The thing SK should worry about most is whether the US is going to invade NK. US will be coming through SK and so will the response.
To Boo: Please do not insult the three fine gentlemen of Moe, Larry and Curly, and compare them to N Koreas inept, lost in their own dream world, so called leadership. The Stooges were vastly more intelligent than NK. Just look at their plumbing ("A Plumbing We Will Go" short). NK could not even follow that example.
Isn't this really the same story over again?
No, it's a flaw in the Matrix.
From the Great Leader to the Great Goon in 81 seconds
my comment the other day was.... it will either explode on take off ...or go up and straight back down... they are still living in the trees up there..... and if they punish the people in charge of the project by killing or imprisoning them...the who program will cease quickly.... but ...i gotta admit.... i do love the food....
Mmmmmm, kim chi.
They would've succeeded if it weren't for those meddling kids!
And their dog too!
Just a guess on my part, but it seems that a Pyongyang rocket scientist, facing the ever-present possibility of torture or execution over a publically failed test launch; would have very little incentive to intentionally push the self-destruct button just because the rocket's veering flight path was endangering the lives of a bunch of non-DPRK strangers.
Those dang 'O' rings again?
The Porker needs to stop skipping school and do some serious brain growth, lest his people whom are starving start looking at him like he's a pork chop with a bad haircut.
Homer Kim: Mmmmmmmm.... pork chops with bad haircuts.
These people are inept....who were the scientists behind this debacle – Moe, Larry and Curly?
Blame the MS software (pirated version with viruses) used to control the rocket.
Dear leader probably told his people that the rocket was homesick and just couldn't bear to leave any farther.
That airborne laser the Air Force has is pretty accurate.
that program was abandonned...
of course it was...
Which program are you referring to that was abandoned. There are and were several laser-type systems being developed for missle defence; not all were retired.
i'm sure that was the official story'
Rocket science does not come easy. Without the proper support, material, and/ or guidance there will be multiple failures prior to success. The development of rockets and flight and the failures are all well documented for multiple country's including Germany and the US.
The North Koreans probably fabricated parts for more than one unit, and at this time are assembling another, or dismantling another to inspect what may have gone wrong.
One thing for certain they will capture the attention of the world again using this platform.
They will, without a doubt, keep trying. And one day, they will succeed. Then, is when we really need to worry, because there is not a rational mind in the ruling elite. As for the people 'rising up'...against what? Their current conditions have been in place for over 60 years. 99% of the population knows nothing different. They have no other view in which to compare their current conditions. All media, TV, etc is strictly controlled by the party elite. The average N Korean peasant knows of no other way of life. How can you expect them to rise up, when they have no idea what another option is.
So, what are you suggesting?
It sounds like you are describing the citizens of the United States
IT WAS CHUCK NORRIS!!!
Oh man, with all the cracks on North Korea in here, their are going to be some seriously p'd off North Koreans when they see this blog... oh wait, their Government doesn't let them use the internet... maybe they'll see this in 40 years or so when their weakminded people finally overthrow their Government.
Weak minded? you are ignorant... The North Korean people have been brutalized for decades...
so solly. we are so solly.
And he so Ronery too....
nice to see CNN allows abject racism to be expressed in their comment threads... what a win for free speech...
so angly
so solly.
it should have turned around and blew up iran.......
It seems that North Korea fields leaders that appear to be charactures of satire. And it sounds like the missile they just launched was a "Mutt" made up of parts from different countries. Which makes me wonder if these different countries is selling NK faulty technology and hardware. All this would make great comedic fodder for SNL, except that the law of averages says sooner or later, one of these things is going to work. With the range the missiles have and will eventually be capable of, the whole US Pacific Coast will be within range. As poor and insignificant we deem NK to be, you can bet that NK would settle just for hitting something in the US, just one time.
To what end? How could that be good for them in any way?
nothing about North Korea's rocket program is good. There nuke program only needs to get lucky one time. i hope they keep having these little problems. The world would be better off!
Ummmm.....does anyone suspect some outside interference? Could it be that one of the developed nations has the scramble the sensors on such a launch? And, if we don't have such capabilities, shame on us!
err...has the ability to scramble...my bad.
Actually, a normal person would simply suspect technical incompetence.
What goes up, must come down.
The responsible crew and their families are now in hard labor camp for dishonering fat boy.
Maybe they should export fireworks instead?
Maybe they should not have tried to launch it on Friday the 13th!
It was the 14th over there when it was launched
It was the 13th. The launch was yesterday (for us), the 12th, and tomorrow (technically today, for them) meaning they did in fact launch their rocket on Friday the 13th.
You would have thought all the screaming and threats of death given to the rocket before launch would have ensured a better result, but nooooo.
Yesterday, a long anticipated North Koran event happened. After wild day long celebrations by the men of the North Korean government and military they retired for the evening to excitedly awaited the launch of their Long Dong missile. With much build up and attention they spent the full 10 seconds elated to see the Long Dong begin to rise. Excitedly, calling for a total effort they quickly began to enter into a state of depression as they watched their marvelous missile began to falter and drop. They were frustrated it was not able to break through the barrier of space they had selected and their depression deepened as their great machine limply fell. North Korean sources were adamant that this type of thing had even happened before and blamed the failure on the attention the launch had been given.
The international community having warned the North Korean's that they were not ready for this type of activity gathered to see if further detail should be added to the continuing efforts to educated the North Korean's about their reckless behavior.
They have a little blue pill that can fix that.
It will take a long while before North Korea will test another missile because all the scientists, engineers and technicians involved in this humiliating failure will now be executed or thrown into the concentration camps. Sadly, that will include all their family members as well.
This taepodong is not as effective as previous taepodong.
Well played sir
honestly don't understand why we give a $hit.
Because they clearly do not care about international opinion (hence the launch despite several warnings), nor do they care about their own people (i.e. rampant starvation). I would feel better if they did not possess the capability of launching anything over Japan or Hawaii.
Seriously? Because if they master this, they can hit L.A. See how that might affect us?
Yeah and if the had a flying saucer they could attack Mars! I'm not too concerned.
So, anything short of a flying saucer attacking Mars is of no concern...? When yer bein swallerd by that rattler in yer back yard, dontcha werry...it aint a flyin saucer attackin Mars.
Because even though this missile testing failed, North Korea is suspected to be able to fire a nuclear missile to Alaska if they wanted to. You should care very much
Seriously, you think that they are going though all of this so they can launch their only rocket at a country that could erase them from the planet in 10 minutes? Are you that paranoid?
MNtax.. The likelihood is low, I agree. But what's to say that, if their rule is failing and the "perfect storm" brews, the leaders wouldn't just say "f*ck it," and send one. They could care less, they'd be doomed anyways. Like Hitler, Stalin, and others.
It took three days to raise and fuel this thing, satellites watching all the way. If there was any reason whatsoever to believe that it was nuclear-tipped and bound for the U.S. mainland, approximately how much firepower would the USAF be able to deliver to the launch pad during those 72 hours? What probability of a successful launch after that treatment?
The new leader was just playing with his toys. Don't mess with him or he will start with his tantrums.
I wonder how many peasants could have had food and medical treatment for what it cost to shoot this scrap metal into the ocean?
Probably about the same number as the poor Americans who could be helped if WE didn't shoot million dollar missles at peasants living in valleys 13,000 miles away from US?
point, set, match!
*clap clap clap
Umm...show me the millions of Americans who are dying of starvation in the streets? Oh, right, comparing the poverty level of North Korea vs America is an idiotic and completely inaccurate comparison.
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I wonder how many homes here could have been saved with the money spent on Iraq and Afghanistan.
I wonder how many homes could have been saved if people paid attention when the mortgage company told them what their monthly payment would be and that they would be expected to keep paying it until the loan was paid off.
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Looks like NK tried to send a rocket and someone tried a defense system
North Korea can get it up, but can't keep it. Seems the country needs a big dose of Viagra. But first it should try feeding its body of people. That might really be just one of many causes of the country's impotence.
Good One!!
Losers. Can the world stop paying them any mind? Just encircle their crappy country, prevent anything from going in or out and let the people finally stand up for themselves and overthrow the dictatorship. This includes military commanders standing up for the people.
Speaking of payment, I'd like to quit paying them food aid too. We enable this? We let them teach us how to act? Outrageous.
I think they have already done that to themselves.
Launching rockets is very hard. There's a lot of vibration and large acoustic forces. A lot of things have to happen precisely. Even today the success rate is only in the mid 90%'s for the leading space faring nations.
and it's especially difficult for special ed folks like the N Korean army & that new fat kid leader
A combo of fear and stupidity. Fear on the part of the engineers to point out the problems. Stupidity on the "leader" to force a doomed launch. Maybe they should get rid of "Fat Leader".
A combo of fear and stupidity? Sort of like all the racist and hateful rhetoric in this thread? aimed at a country of oppressed, starving, and desperate innocent people?
It's very hard? Thanks for the intel, Julnor.