April 6th, 2012
11:27 AM ET

Board recommends dismissal of anti-Obama Marine

By Michael Pearson and Moni Basu

A Marine Corps board has recommended that a politically active Marine sergeant who questioned President Barack Obama's authority be dismissed from service with an "other than honorable" discharge.

Sgt. Gary Stein, who posted anti-Obama comments on his Facebook page, stands accused of violating a catch-all military justice provision against conduct endangering "good order and discipline."

He is also accused of violating a Department of Defense policy limiting the political activities of service members.

The recommendation for dismissal, made late Thursday, will now go to a separation authority headed by Brig, Gen. Daniel Yoo, commander of the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, said Maj. Michael Armistead, the public affairs director for the installation.

It could take two to three weeks for the authority to hand down a decision, Armistead said.

If he leaves the Marines with an other than honorable discharge, Stein will be demoted a rank to lance corporal, Armistead said.

Stein came under scrutiny from Marine officials after saying he would not obey Obama's orders.

In a January 26 post to the Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook page, Stein called Obama a liar. Two days later, he said the president is "the 'Domestic Enemy' our oath speaks about."

In a March 4 posting, he questioned Obama's birth certificate. Another discussion on the site in March said he would refuse to obey orders given by Obama. He later clarified to say he meant illegal orders, which he has explained as orders such as sending the military to Syria without congressional approval.

"The allegations drummed up against me are no more than an agenda by the Marine Corps to use me as an example," Stein said in a statement posted to his page.

"If I am guilty of anything it would be that I am American, a freedom loving Conservative, hell bent on defending the constitution and preserving Americas greatness."

He noted that the opinions he expressed were his own, saying, "I have never spoken on behalf of the Marine Corps or in uniform."

He told CNN the charges were a "PR thing."

"They have to make some sort of stand with this," he said.

His Facebook page Friday said simply: "On to the next fight."

 CNN's Chelsea J. Carter and Barbara Starr contributed to this report.

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    bull crap my dad is a jar head
    and you think Hed bow down to ole monkey Ears
    NOT
    im glad this kid did speak out for what he thought was right
    he has a right to his speech
    all this talk about Obamma and what Obamma wants
    he dont care one bit about America
    only his precious money and oil

    That Marine has more balls than most marines that would allow some monkey president with a fake damn id to run and ruin our beautiful counrty with his islamic shoulder rubbing
    WELL Obummer where did that get you ?? huh
    in a big fat bloody mess with Iran huh ??
    you should have shut your mouths and left it alone but noooooo
    you have to play GOD

    April 10, 2012 at 1:48 am | Reply
  11. helenecha

    The service members are like the actors and actresses showing up at the military play. This marine seemed to ruin the whole play by saying the lines which were not available in the U.S. military play. Then he was asked to drop out of his military stage. It was that easy, I think. Well, good for him.

    April 8, 2012 at 12:10 am | Reply
  12. The Rabbi

    When officers publicy state their support of Israel and it's policies, they are fast tracked....

    But if they question Americas policy, they have their life destroyed.

    April 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Reply
    • Capt. Obvious

      Still not fooling anyone. If you wear a uniform, you don't get the opportunity to choose your orders, especially since this kid is only a sergeant. You want to go on a political tantrum? that's great, we have skinheads for that, not the Marines or any other branch for that matter

      April 8, 2012 at 2:42 am | Reply
    • Jonathan Pollard zionist Spy and American Traitor

      You stupid Marines . . . do what you are told to do and we'll let you die for us. This coming war with Iran and Syria is part of the big plan (new world order with us israelis running the show) – Heck, all we want is to rule the world. You stupid Marines . . your job is to die for us. Let me ask: have you ever seen an israeli soldier fighting along side you stupid Marines when you were in Iran or any other place where we have started the shooting??

      I'll tell you the answer . . . zero . . . nada. . . .not one idf soldier has been there . . . and why should they be when we have you stupid Marines to die for us. Thank god we have our boy Obama and most of Congress in our pockets . . .Thanks AIPAC (our spy agency in america) like I said SHUT UP AND DO WHAT WE TELL YOU TO DO and everything will be just fine.

      Now, I can't wait to have our boy Obama free me from this jail cell . . . I have a lot of bootie to tend to in israel when I get out (both male and female) cause I love zionist bootie . . . and oh yeah, I'm gonna be rich . . Big Bad bibi said he's going to make me a millionare when I get out – he's going to cut me in on all that money you stupid Americans send us each year.

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  14. Clinton

    The thing i don't understand is how the Tea Party and the right wing Republicans can actually try and sit there and tell the citizens of the United States that they are defending the Constitution and are protecting people's rights and all this but then they go and try to push through bills that try to tell the American people how to live their lives. They've tried to push through bills that limit birth control etc. how can they not realize that what they are doing is the EXACT opposite of what they claim to be fighting for? They're saying, we're here to fight for your rights... but then trying to force people to live exactly how they want them to.... They are straying so far, they're becoming Anti-American, Anti-Democracy. Especially with all the hissy-fits they throw when they don't get their way, they try to block EVERY piece of legislation that gets brought up for vote... Democracy is about compromising with the people you don't agree with, in the understanding that Neither Party represents ALL Americans... I'm not a Dem or a Republican, I've always stayed in the center but the Right has strayed so far it's hard to find a worthy Republican Candidate anymore, they've allowed their party to get highjacked by the right wing and that's ridiculous... they're getting more extreme by the day.

    April 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
  15. Clinton

    The Marines are right to boot this yahoo. Regardless of your political views when you're in the military you swear an oath to follow the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over you. It's an OATH. If you swear that oath then say you're not going to follow his orders, you should be kicked out... Think every soldier was happy with George Bush's policies? Nope, but you follow his orders as a soldier, you're not political. You can choose not to obey an order if it violates the constitution of the United States but you can't just jump on board with some political activist group that made up some phony crap about the President not being a citizen so you can use lies to justify disobedience. I think he's lucky if all he gets is demoted and booted... he should be in jail for treason. Treason in war time is punishable by death, so if anybody thinks he's getting off light, you're wrong.

    April 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      *excuse me, i meant to say if anybody thinks he's being heavily punished for this, you're wrong... He is getting a very light punishment for this.

      April 6, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Reply
    • Capt. Obvious

      Hooah to that.

      April 8, 2012 at 2:46 am | Reply
      • asd

        Hooah is an Army thing, not sure if you knew that and are in the Army or if you're just not hip to the correct saying of the Marines.

        And if the President set Martial Law, would you obey that?

        April 13, 2012 at 8:26 am |
  16. Portland tony

    As a combat veteran, I sure wouldn't want this waas covering my backside! Bud, you can say anything you want as a civilian, but quit disgracing the Corps. Get yourself and your tea party agenda out. Serve some time in the brig, become a civilian..and see if anybody listens to traitors!

    April 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Reply
    • JarheadPops

      Disgracing the Corps by opposing an imposter?
      He did his bit. He deserves to speak out.
      Opposing an imposter for violating the Constitution is left to whom? Congress? What a joke.
      Obama is NOT the legitimate Commander in Chief. To blindly follow a Tyrant and imposter is to be a traitor to those you defend.

      April 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
      • Clinton

        JarheadPops you're an idiot – First off, The President of the United States was fairly elected by the people of the United States. He had to prove he was a citizen before being sworn in and that means unless the FBI, CIA, Congress, and basically every person in Government would have to be absolutely crooked and working for Obama, EVEN THE REPUBLICANS.... Your crackpot idea is a joke and that's also what you are. If you were ever a soldier then you'd know that you don't choose what President or what Party to follow. You Follow the orders of the President of the United States not some ragtag wanna be revolutionary party like the Tea Party crackpots. If you're too stupid to know this, then you don't belong in the Army. SOLDIERS ARE NOT POLITICAL. THEY FOLLOW ORDERS THAT'S IT! ... If there's a specific order that violates the constitution and you can prove it, by all means disobey, otherwise, STFU and do your job or get out... this guy should be executed for treason in my opinion.

        April 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
      • Portland tony

        Regardless of your beliefs which the majority of folks think are absurd, you have a right to them. However a member of the armed forces does not have the option to obey or disobey orders on an arbitrary basis. If this man were a civilian, his opinions might be accepted by some....But as a Marine he is a traitor to all the Corps stands for!

        April 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
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    • Clinton

      Exactly, that's the ticket right there... Soldiers can't choose to obey orders from one President then go and disobey otherse because they don't fall into his political point of view... It's not a game... it's not a political game... This is why i think groups like the Tea Party are the worst thing in the world for the U.S. ... Creating and backing severe ideologies to try and call freely elected politicians illegitimate simply because they do not follow their doctrine, that is in my opinion treason. Unfortunately there's nothing against it... though technically the President could sue the Tea Party for slander it's not something a politician would do... it wouldn't help his Presidency either. Isn't it funny though that This "tea party" and it's following are actually breaking the law with their Birther movement and nobody points that out... It's illegal to lie about someone in order to discredit them. It is called Slander and technically they could be held accountable.

      April 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Reply
      • Cheese Wonton

        Be careful. There is a difference between the enlisted and officer's oath. While enlisted people are sworn to obey the orders of their officers, officers are sworn to uphold the laws of the US and defend the Constitution. As an officer you are expected to know what a legal and illegal order is, and if given an illegal order, run, not walk to the Judge Advocate General. This was done as a result of the post WWII war crimes trials. The US didn't want any US officer accused of war crimes claiming, as so many Nazi's did, they were simply following orders. As a US military officer, you are expected to know better.
        What this Marine did, however, was completely out of line. Two things are off limits in the ranks, religion and politics, and this is so to ensure unit cohesion. In combat, you have to be able to trust everyone in your unit, and be willing to sacrifice your life for your comrades. I don't think I need to explain at length how corrosive petty political or religious differences can be, or how they can affect one's trust of other unit members who's religion or politics might not match yours. This has no place in the ranks, so at least when I served, everyone's political leanings were a mystery. We never talked about it.
        You also do not bad mouth your chain of command. That too is corrosive if not punished immediately. If members feel free to disobey orders they disagree with or argue with their chain of command, discipline breaks down and you loose the ability to function effectively.

        April 7, 2012 at 1:15 am |
  17. JUST ADVICE

    this guy is the poster idiot for all those that think they can ridicule their commander in chief while they are in the usa military .

    if they feel so strongly about their policitical views than get out of the military and go to it , but until than SERVE AND PROTECT WITH HONOUR . AND HONOUR AND RESPECT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF .

    however with that said and since i am not in the usa military , I personally would never vote for obama .

    April 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Reply
    • Clinton

      You're spot on Just advice – As a Veteran of the US Army, I served in Iraq during George Bush's presidency. Believe me, not everyone agreed with his policies, but nobody and i mean nobody was willing to disobey an order from the President. It's not about politics in the Military, you're by definition, NOT POLITICAL... Rather you're the fighting body of the United States and you do what the head tells you to. People vote in Politicians, Presidents... It is not your job to disagree with the President, you're being paid by the taxpayers of the US to do what the President says, if you don't like the President, or don't like the idea that you may have to follow the orders of a President from a different political party than the one you subscribe to, DON'T JOIN IN THE FIRST PLACE. This guy is a disgrace to the Armed Forces, and being kicked out of the Marines is light sentence considering this guy is a traitor in war time.

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