The hunt for 'plan B' - planning for 'the day after' in Syria
U.S. Secretary of State Clinton, in Saudi Arabia Saturday, will take part in a Friends of Syria meeting in Turkey on Sunday.
March 31st, 2012
04:36 PM ET

The hunt for 'plan B' - planning for 'the day after' in Syria

By Elise Labott, CNN Foreign Affairs Reporter

Expectations are low for Sunday's Friends of Syria meeting in Istanbul, where representatives from more than 70 nations and international organizations will gather to discuss ways to hasten the ouster of President Bashar al-Assad.

The reason is simple. The most critical piece is missing: Plan B.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has made no secret of her frustration with the opposition Syrian National Council's inability to offer a vision for a post-al-Assad Syria that all Syrians can sign on to. This week, Clinton said the United States would be "pushing them very hard" to present such a vision in Istanbul.

She's not alone. Many a senior administration official has summed up the SNC in two words: "A mess."

The characterization from European and Arab diplomats may be more diplomatic, but no less critical of the SNC's lack of leadership, organizational skills and ideas.

"They are all over the map, depending on whom you talk to on any given day," one senior U.S. official said. "It's hard to think of what we can do going forward when there is no credible alternative."

Lessons learned from Iraq

More importantly the SNC, made up of mostly Syrian exiles, has not demonstrated it has support inside Syria. U.S. officials are seeing parallels to the war in Iraq, where the United States relied too heavily upon the Iraqi National Congress - a group of exiles run by businessmen Ahmed Chalabi - which was ultimately found to be corrupt and unreliable. When Baghdad fell and the Baath party disbanded, it became quickly apparent the group had no base inside Iraq from which to draw, and the United States was left to run the country.

"The U.S. is hoping these expats can deliver. They are telling you they can, but their actions and infighting are telling you they can't," said the University of Oklahoma's Joshua Landis, who writes Syria Comment, a daily newsletter on Syrian politics. "The Obama administration fears they will implode or be overtaken by actors within Syria who are better connected to forces on the ground. The Obama administration doesn't want to be caught going down the same yellow brick trail as the Bush administration did when it backed the Iraqi National Council only to discover that it didn't have much purchase with Iraqi society."

Radwan Ziadeh, a member of the SNC and the executive director of the Syrian Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Washington, said the criticism of the group's lack of vision is unfair given the uncertainty of the crisis. "We can come with a general plan, but how can we come up with a detailed plan?" he asked. "That will depend on the key players who emerge from this and we don't' know that yet. We don't know how the regime will fall."

Planning for 'The Day After'

There is no shortage of projects planning for a post al-Assad Syria. Last year the State Department gave modest funding to an initiative run by the U.S. Institute for Peace, aptly titled "The Day After." The project centers around developing a set of recommendations for key sectors, like how to jump-start the economy, establish security and rule of law and write a new constitution. The participants, who include both Syrian exiles and Western technical experts, have met several times in Europe. Although the Syrian National Council is not officially affiliated with the USIP project, because the leadership was wary of participating in an enterprise funded by the United Sates, several of the group's members are involved - including Ziadeh, who called it an "important tool" in transition planning.

But the State Department quickly became disenchanted with the project. Officials including U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford, who previously served in Iraq, felt it bore an uncanny resemblance to the Future of Iraq project, a year-long State Department study begun in 2002 before the Iraq war, which assembled more than 200 Iraqi lawyers, engineers, business people and other experts into 17 working groups to study topics ranging from creating a new justice system to reorganizing the military to revamping the economy.

The 13-volume Future of Iraq study was a casualty of the fallout with the Iraqi National Council and was largely ignored during post-war planning, even though it predicted many of the problems that ended up plaguing the United States in Iraq for years to come.

"You can get the same people to do the same project for Congo or Zimbabwe," said Ayman Abdel Nour, who served as al-Assad's adviser from 1997 to 2004 before he fell out with the regime and left the country. "And at the end, who is going to implement this plan?"

Nour, who declined to take part in the USIP project, said technical planning for post-al-Assad Syria must include more Syrians who would actually be running the country, rather than relying on top-down intellectual exercises.

He sees the same flaws with the U.S. approach of relying on the SNC as its primary contact with the Syrian opposition. "The SNC is an important mask, yes," he said. "But it's a front desk that we should only be starting with. These people have been out of Syria for 30 or 40 years and don't know the situation on the ground. This is one of the main problems we are facing."

Ausama Monajed, a member of the SNC who has taken part in the USIP project, said while it's important to reach Syrians inside the country, it is unrealistic to expect those under deadly siege by the government to be thinking about the day-after. "The majority of the people can't talk about tomorrow, they are worried about today," he said. "They are in the middle of it and cannot see the bigger picture at this stage. There is no stomach for anyone in the inside to look at a health policy when they are being shot."

Reaching inside Syria

The realization that the crisis will drag on for some time without a viable plan for a post al-Assad Syria that is connected to Syrians on the ground has prompted a re-thinking of U.S. planning.

"The next ruler of Syria is likely to emerge out of the battlefield. The Assad regime will have to be pulled down by force. The Syrian who emerges from the fierce competition underway among opposition leaders within Syria will have developed loyalty, a broad following, leadership, and strategic vision," said newsletter writer Landis. "The spoils are not going to go to the Harvard grad or someone at USIP. No American political party works that way. They give it to the people that worked for them and the ones that win."

Trying to learn the lessons of Iraq, Ambassador Ford and others have concluded the exiles they are currently working with will not be able to get the economy running, turn on the electricity, or fix a pothole "the day after."

While not abandoning the SNC entirely, senior officials say the Obama administration in recent months has begun to cast a much wider net for Syrians who can run Syria the day after al-Assad falls. The United States could no longer put all of its eggs in the SNC's basket.

President Obama himself suggested the shift earlier this week in South Korea when, after a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, he said the U.S. would start aiding opposition groups inside Syria. Officials said non-lethal aid will include secure communications equipment to help opposition leaders on the ground communicate better with each other and with the outside world.

While in Syria, Ford amassed a network of opposition contacts on the ground that has been hard to tap into since the embassy closed and he left the country in February. Now he relies on Skype and other communications technologies to reach those inside. He just wrapped up a multi-city tour in the United States to appeal to Syrian expats who still maintain ties inside the country.

Fred Hoff, the administration's coordinator for Syria, is also pounding the pavement, meeting with Syrians worldwide who have access to "technocrats," the professional class currently inside the country or who have recently left who have both on-the-ground experience and the authority to pick up the mantle during the transition. It could be anyone from a former finance minister who can work on a program to prevent looting to a civil servant in the health ministry to a former military official who can offer ideas for disarming the militias.

Ford and Hoff also are increasing their outreach to Christian groups, business associations and revolutionary councils inside Syria, which are organizing civil resistance, providing services to the people and are increasingly becoming the de facto representation of the Syrian opposition.

Syrian activist Ammar Abdulhamid, a fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies in Washington, is trying to bridge the gap between the exiles and those Syrians on the ground. He's bringing together small groups of Syrian experts to brainstorm ideas for a transition, which he is feeding to opposition groups on the ground in Syria who the United States is now trying to reach. "We don't have a political agenda and aren't tabling a plan," Abdulhamid said. "This is to raise public awareness and highlight the issues we are going to be facing once Assad falls. There needs to be a public debate and we want to empower Syrians to do that."

Molham Aldrobi, a member of the SNC who serves on the Muslim Brotherhood's Executive Council and has taken part in both the USIP and Abdulhamid's projects, believes the opposition on the ground will eventually produce the "alternative" the U.S. and others are calling for. But he said more support for the opposition is needed, and that will determine who follows Assad and how much influence the international community will have on that person.

"Bashar al-Assad needs to know the world means business and so do the Syrian people," he said. "The longer it takes, the more unstable this region will be and the worse the situation will be in the future. Or else the international community may find they won't like who gets in. Because that person is going to say, 'hands off, this is mine.'"

soundoff (308 Responses)
  1. OregonTom

    Let Syria have their civil war. Lets stay out of it.

    April 1, 2012 at 11:34 am | Reply
  2. Howard Feinski

    Iraq like Syria? You've got to be kidding. Syria is invading no one, and is not gassing anyone. Methinks the author is straining on a gnat.

    April 1, 2012 at 11:28 am | Reply
    • Sonny

      Syria is more like its cute puppet Lebanon, with its similar demographics mixed bags of Christians, Sunni/Shia sectarians, and tribal/clan and regional flavors bordering Israel, Turkey, a perfect melting pot of Mideast cultural love cobbled together by Assad family business.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • Jabbaman

      I think your mistaken the aurthor is saying U.S. involvement in Syria is starting to look like that of Iraq. In other words we relied on exiled persons to help form the new Iraq government and in Syria with the SNC were doing the same thing. The problem is that this approach didn't work in Iraq and it left the U.S. to do the work of setting up the government. We don't want to do that again if we don't want our troops in Syria for the next ten or so years.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
    • yuri pelham

      They kill their own citizens just not as efficiently as Saddam. Oh well patience,patience said the king.

      April 1, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Reply
  3. Sonny

    So many isolationists and home-grown common sense logics with little geopolitical awareness of the region, its culture, people or history, not surprisingly making impulsive, uninformed remarks. This utter ignorance derives from a lack or interest in other cultures and not dwelling deep into the issues by thoroughly researching the issues. If some of these whiners have been paying closed attention to what the Obama administration has been saying, via Hillary, DOS, DOD, WH Press: Syria is extremely complex (unlike Libya) and the US will not be put any boots on the ground (yes, we have learned that lesson from next door Iraq and AfPak)). That said, Syria is important enough of a regional player that it's worth getting involved using other means–organizing, financing and arming (indirectly via Saudis Qataris?) opposition. Getting rid of ASSad will be a big blow to not only Iran but also Russia (less so China). This is a cheap and less risky strategy recently borrowed from Libya (remember US delegated that major task to NATO–UK/France) of using indigenous proxies to do our bidding. By actively tinkering and molding Syrian next leadership, US hopes to facilitate a stable democratic regime friendly to the West–however unlikely. Finally, we gets in people faces, esp Mideast, because of selfish strategic interests–oil! A stable region means the pipes keep pumping so Americans and their SUV live in peace!!

    April 1, 2012 at 11:26 am | Reply
    • DK

      So we Americans are wrong if we do and wrong if we don't eh? If we don't get involved we are uninformed and uncultured isolationists – yet if we do we are greedy oil barons according to you. The informed truth is that our interventionism policies have been a failure and we have enough problems of our own to deal with. Isolationism is the informed position.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
  4. Rick

    Stop wasting our money ! The majority of Americans want nothing to do with Syria.Are you deaf or just don't give a f ?

    April 1, 2012 at 11:21 am | Reply
    • Derek

      Ah, but there's oil at stake. Anytime oil is in the equation, our Government, regardless of whether it is dominated by Republicans or Democrats, can't resist a piece of the action.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:35 am | Reply
      • Vet

        Syria is hardly a major oil exporter. 379,000 bpd and will be a net importer of oil in a decade or two. I'd say there isn't enough in Syria and that's why there hasn't been any action yet.

        April 1, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
  5. a disgrace

    syria is in a lot better shape than america at least they actually have a leader!

    April 1, 2012 at 11:19 am | Reply
    • Derek

      LOL, you are calling Bashal Al-Assad ... someone that murders his own people, a leader? And you are comparing him to Obama?

      It's the usual Sunday Morning Troll Extravaganza, I see.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:37 am | Reply
      • Total2199

        Al Assad is crushing al Qaeda, and he needs a help not rebels

        April 1, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  6. Ralph in Orange Park, FL

    Plan A should be we stay out of it.

    April 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • a disgrace

      so should plan b! france did a magnificent job in libya and really showed up america as a bunch of incompetent fools...

      April 1, 2012 at 11:20 am | Reply
    • DK

      France.. the new war mongers.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:59 am | Reply
    • Bruehaha

      If Plan A doesn't work, refer to Plan B. Plan B says, "Refer to Plan A"

      April 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • Christy9

      Our actions should be as part of the UN. All countries should go through the UN and make it an authority to be feared by those who continue to wage war. It hasn't been as effective as it could and should be. But we should help to make it a help to all nations.

      April 1, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Reply
  7. wowlfie

    Islamic countries should be shunned and cut off from the flow of humanity. Much like the Amish shun their own if they don't accept Amish ways the world at large should shun Islamic countries as being detrimental to humanity.

    April 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
  8. wowlfie

    Every country in the Middle East is a morass. Sunni's and Shiites just will never get along and until there is one there will be endless countless conflict and wars. It's the nature of Islam not to accept other religions or variants–each demands it's own allegiance with all others as infidels. Ridiculous.

    April 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Reply
  9. SFr in AZ

    Towelheads killing Towelheads?
    What channel is this on?

    April 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Reply
  10. Kerry

    At least Obama has the good sense to stay out of that war and not make the same mistake the Bush administration did. It's not our problem. The U.S. is not the savior of suffering people around the globe. Interfering with governments and trying to make them abide by our doctrine is not right. They set their own standards. It's sad what is happening but our involvement would only make matters worse.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
  11. Steven

    Just don't fruckin' get involved and this will save us uncountable amount of money wasted. We've done enough to the World.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:40 am | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      What? No plans for "the day after"? CIA, Mossad and other "regime builders" sleeping?

      April 1, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
  12. jorge washinsen

    Iraqies are still killing each other and we are for the most part gone.They do not need a sceond chance from us.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:30 am | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      Jorge Wahnsinn (look at German translation) you must be one of those Latins fitted with American passport! "We", "they" , "deserve".....pendejo!
      What have "you" brought to Iraq besides of killling, destroying, burning and burying?
      Yes, please take that "2ND OPPORTUNITY" to your native and adoptive countries.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
      • paul

        actually, i guarantee you that the rest of us would like to see you go back to the hole you crawled out from

        April 1, 2012 at 11:18 am |
  13. jorge washinsen

    Most countries after they bleed enough they come to terms,except Arabs.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:27 am | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      There you go again!! WHAT DO YOU KNOW of anything in the world except all the corners of the food courts co in Anerican shopping malls?

      April 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
  14. smoke1474

    Syria would pose an insurgency that would dwarf that in Iraq. Unless the US is committed to putting all resources in this and understands that this would require yet another occupation by the military, then we should not intervene militarily

    April 1, 2012 at 10:22 am | Reply
    • Christy9

      Say that louder! John McCain can't hear you. Next you'll hear, "Time to start AIRSTRIKES over Syria!". Then, "We waited too lond!". Then, "We started too soon!". Turn his mike off.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  15. Richard

    This is, quite simply, none of our business and we need to back off and watch what happens as uninvolved observers. Let Syria work out Syria's problems.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:18 am | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      Then they wouldn't be American politicians if they would stay out and mind their own business and problems (of which they have mountains to solve).
      But then again AIPAC is the one that is worming in Obama/ Clinton asses to not rest until they have achieved Libyan style regime change in Syria.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:59 am | Reply
  16. derykhouston

    It is beyond belief that the US still does not understand the importance of international law which clearly spells out that a country's sovereignty must be respected. Instead....... we see the US vigorously supporting various questionable groups with the full intent of bringing down yet another foreign government.
    I believe that this is the kind of behaviour that creates conditions for WW3.
    How much longer will China and Russia stand quielty by on the sidelines and let the US bully and pressure countries around the world. How much longer will they allow the US to corner trade routes, pipleline routes, oil and gas reserves, and other precious resources? How much longer will they let the US re write other countries constitutions so that it favors American interests as they did in Iraq?
    How much longer are China and Russia going to allow themselves be made into complete stooges?
    People should be in the streets letting their governments know that they don;t want to be dragged into yet another war.
    And yet we don;t. We sit like docile sheep unaware of what our governments are doing around the world as they secure their wealth and influence.
    We pick up the bill. Our children take on massive student debt. Many American's go without proper medical treatment. Bridges and roads deteriorate. People end up living on the street. And yet no one speaks out while our leaders bask in the glory of power and influence.
    Why do we do it?

    April 1, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
    • Richard

      It would seem that many of us are too busy pontificating about it from our couches.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:20 am | Reply
    • Brian

      International order and controlling our interests.
      And the fact that Russia and China do the same exact thing. What do you think China is doing with it's heavy investments in Africa or dealing with India/Nepal/Tibet or Russia with it's dozens of ex-Soviet sattelite states?

      April 1, 2012 at 10:28 am | Reply
  17. SendHilary!

    Just once I would like to see a news media courageous enough to criticize the Clintons – to use that right where Americans are free to criticize our public officials without threat of violence or ruin or stories of suicide.

    Send Hilary to Syria with a gun strapped to her side and let her big fat butt defend this nation. Let her be a hero for Syria.

    I'm sure she'll find one or two men that will stand alongside her and fight.

    And we'll all sit here and listen to CNN keep us informed of how she eats sandfleas in the 110 degree heat, wearing barely enough to protect her life – a poorly constructed flack jacket and desert boots that sweat your feet into fungus – let her sit in the sun on the side of the road and watch Syrians toss IED's out at her and see how she likes that and send our extremely courageous American troops back home from Afghanistan.

    Thanks for letting me express my U.S.Const. amend I rights.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
  18. jorge washinsen

    Our nose grows longer.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:13 am | Reply
  19. jorge washinsen

    Iraq and 5000 dead later maybe Iraq had what it deserved.They killed more of our people than did Al Quaida.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:12 am | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      Well deserved Señor

      April 1, 2012 at 11:14 am | Reply
      • paul

        race baiting and jealously abound in your posts: helps support your lack of credibility. keep it up, no thought required to respond

        April 1, 2012 at 11:24 am |
  20. Scott

    So here we go. Going after another Sunni strongman after 9/11. So whats up with that George? WMD my @ss.

    April 1, 2012 at 9:18 am | Reply
    • IVAR

      This in the article said everything:.."She's (Hilary) not alone. Many a senior administration official has summed up the SNC in two words: "A mess."

      So the US is backing a mess to replace Assad. Is this what the US thinks that the people of Syria deserve? The US wants to get Assad out to be replaced by a "Mess"? You must be kidding!

      What does Hilary care? No wonder China and Russia do not want to participate in this adventure!

      The problem is that the US never seem to learn! It stumbles from from one "mess" to another! I wish there more intelligent people advising Hilary and ...Obama!

      April 1, 2012 at 10:09 am | Reply
      • Scott

        To be fair, we supported the moderates for along time and look what we got for it. But I see your point. It's a pretty stupid thing to do.

        April 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  21. amarjit

    If Syria is attacked, Iran may be too in involved as they have military treaty together. It may be historic for entire Muslim world as Shia Sunni will be divided. It is therefore good if Saudi Arabia with other Muslim countries is encouraged to provide assistance to rebels to wear down Assad to ultimately step down. Western countries will not be able to install people of their choice in governance in Islamic countries as underlying forces suddenly change color & become extremists with opposition to Western countries as they love their systems & want to continue their own suffering. These people do not like liberty & freedom for themselves & more for their women & education. They are genetically against developments & progress.

    April 1, 2012 at 9:11 am | Reply
  22. Catharsis

    Why are we worried Are we invading?

    April 1, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
  23. we cried for help, but nobody came

    the banksters are just robbing people and using them for their gain (see mr osama posts. people that think like he does.) they say its religion, but they are just making money off of contracting wars. stealing other countries resources and killing innocent people. mostly kids. its wrong and they need to have the funding cut off. enough.

    April 1, 2012 at 8:59 am | Reply
  24. Whombatt

    Stay out of Syria–we cannot and must not become involved in yet another Mideast conflict. Pull all out troops out of that miserable part of the world. I would be willing to pay $10/gal for gasoline if that would break us of having to kowtow to the Saudis et al.

    Iraq is still broken, Afghanistan will never be a democracy, Libya is a mess, Syria on the brink, Iran has become the new Mideast bully, there is no resolution to the Palestinian problem, nor is there ever likely to be.

    It would be nice to be able to build a 1000 mile high wall around the whole @#!&^$ place.

    April 1, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
    • Realism

      whombatt, an ostrich with its head in the sand. Our empire's strength relies on the success of a regime change in Syria, the #2 behind Iran on our military-industrial enemy list. Nation building is a process, sometimes centuries long, and every one of the countries you mention have been a success story in our play book, even Afghanistan. The Saudis are our friends.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:10 am | Reply
      • Scott

        I don't think you really understand what you're talking about. Just saying.

        April 1, 2012 at 9:38 am |
  25. we cried for help, but nobody came

    I am scared that its banksters using this country and our military to genocide innocent people in other countries for their resources.

    April 1, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
    • Brian

      Genocide isn't a verb and if we "invaded" Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria for it's "resources (Yeah, 120 dollar oil and a larger market for Afghan heroin are great resources), then I believe our math has been quite off.
      There's not talk about direct boots on the ground military action. The extent to what we would do would be like in Libya last year or Afghanistan in the 80's. Minor attacks and supplying military equipment.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:32 am | Reply
    • paul

      "banksters"? not oil companies, not israel, not the US, UK, the west but "banksters" in libya killing libyans, syrians killing syrians, afghanis blowing up afghanis, yemenis killing yemenis, muslims blowing up christian churches, janjaweed killing sudanese women and children, but banksters! hookah much?

      April 1, 2012 at 11:29 am | Reply
  26. Jt_flyer

    Our stupid leaders were ready to rush in but the American people say NO.

    April 1, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
  27. Confused in Iraq

    Screw Iraq, Iran, Syria, Kuwait, Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia and any other Arab country! Why are we wasting US dollars over there. We still have 300 Military and over 12,000 contractors in Iraq - Why?

    April 1, 2012 at 8:11 am | Reply
    • Sherri

      Because the US is the single cause for devastating Iraq. We also have caused an epidemic of cancer, birth defects, etc. because of our weapons of mass destruction that we used there.

      April 1, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
      • paul

        too much sherry, sherri. try the hookah at the local islamic center.

        April 1, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • chachouu

      Are you sure you don,t already know the answer,Iraq has oil so that oil will help to pay for reconstructions,the same infrastructure that our bombs destroyed.
      We bomb their infrastructures so we can rebuild them just like we destroyed all their tanks so they can buy news ones from us.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:07 am | Reply
      • fred

        cassandrachu aka cchu and now whatever, doesnt matter, a muslim/palestinian apologist that can post crap about every middle east issue and never truthful.

        April 1, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Scott

      Every argument that starts with the word screw is by definition bad.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:39 am | Reply
  28. WDinDallas

    It seems to me that the US and some European counries are pandering to the Islamist extremes. They should leave Syria alone and let them deal with their Al-Queada problem. Syria is the only secular nation, outside of Turkey, left in the region. Even the Christians in Syria are siding with Assad. Russia is right here, we do not need another Islamist Theocracy in the region. Bad for business.

    April 1, 2012 at 7:34 am | Reply
    • Scott

      Exactly why are we going after the Sunni moderates after 9/11? That's the real question. Bin laden was a Sunni extremist. Is it pure revenge. Hard to believe it could be that simple.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:41 am | Reply
  29. jcarly

    Assad has Russia at his back....he's secure......Obama will not mess with Russia....

    April 1, 2012 at 7:13 am | Reply
    • jorge washinsen

      Why would Russia care one way or another for these warring tribes?

      April 1, 2012 at 10:14 am | Reply
  30. Baphomet

    They can Plan B all they want, but I don't see Assad going anywhere any time soon. The actual rebels 'inside' Syria have had their strongholds overrun and, as an unorganized minority of the population, the're in no shape to launch counter attacks against Assad's forces without a Libya style intervention. With Russia's interest in the Port of Tartus, I can't see the Russians allowing any intervention that could possibly threaten their only foothold in the Mediterranean Sea.

    April 1, 2012 at 4:44 am | Reply
  31. Saber

    All I see in this article is more liberal wishful thinking. Its not going to improve, period! Yet what I see coming is another US involvement in the Middle East, in another 3rd world armpit of a country which we have no business sending our troops into. The USA is not the world's police force. Yet some looser(s) in our Congress, (both sides of the isle), seem to think it is in our best interest to send "a stabilizing force" over to that part of the world. These countries need to go to Civil War and sort out their problems without our involvement. Its how we did it, and it seemed to work out pretty well here. We have our own issues within this country which our current administration seems to have placed on the back burner at the expense of the American People. We need to have NAFTA repealed, and jobs returned to the common public. We don't need to be spending billions of US Tax Dollars in funding another war that won't matter in its outcome, or more handouts in aid to anyone else. Its sounds selfish, and it may be interpreted in that manner. But enough is enough. Wake up Washington DC and smell the poo! Nuff Said!

    April 1, 2012 at 3:21 am | Reply
  32. bam

    another iraq? AKA yellow cake wmds al quaida is there.... need JEB BUSH in there to invade countries for no reason...
    warmongering monarchy

    April 1, 2012 at 2:13 am | Reply

    Another Iraq ? As long as we are not involved in manufacturing.

    April 1, 2012 at 2:07 am | Reply
  34. Cambride Ray

    To those who say "We should stay out of other countries": Please indicate whether you are coming from the bagger side, or the liberal side.


    April 1, 2012 at 2:00 am | Reply
    • youcantbethatdumb

      what part of the nation being over 14trillion in debt that people don't understand. It's one thing to try and help other nations when have the money to do it, but we don't. It's that simple.

      April 1, 2012 at 4:52 am | Reply

    I like how a year ago we were already organizing people to take over power in Syria. This one has been in the works for a while people. Just like Iraq, Libya, etc...

    April 1, 2012 at 1:16 am | Reply

    The American government is the NEW Nazi Germany.

    April 1, 2012 at 1:14 am | Reply
    • B(iraq) Hussein Osama

      not right now it isn't. but eventually a few years from now when it starts rounding up American-Muslims and exterminating them in secret camps in hidden bases around the country, then it will be.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:41 am | Reply
      • bam

        with so many Iraelis infiltrating this country that just may happen. shariah law 4life!

        April 1, 2012 at 2:15 am |
    • rick

      another april fool, what happened , the guy you voted for lost?

      April 1, 2012 at 8:35 am | Reply
    • rick

      posting at 1:14 am while still high on beer and whatever other substances go into your vile mouth results in unsupported hyperbole and nonsense. keep it up as your true personality is coming out

      April 1, 2012 at 8:51 am | Reply
  37. Socrates

    The US as usual doing the dirty job to please the Jew/Israelis. Th whole country is run by Israel. The US politicians have no freedom at all to speak their mind. One word, just one criticism to Israel and they will be buried for life;not even the president can disagree with Satanjahu on anything, it will be political suicide. The US is in the hands of the Jew/Israelis and people like the Clinton family will make sure that stays that way. Pathetic.

    April 1, 2012 at 1:13 am | Reply

      That's where we come in my friend 🙂

      April 1, 2012 at 1:15 am | Reply
      • eg


        April 1, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • B(iraq) Hussein Osama

      you can hardly blame the jews! they are just selfish people taking advantage of an America there to be taken advantage of! If you are going to have corrupt politics where money talks and ideals walk, then people with the money will come and buy you, why would nt they? Blaming jews for your own corrupt system reminds me of Nazi Germany.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:44 am | Reply
    • Leif

      Socrates would like his name back.

      April 1, 2012 at 2:40 am | Reply
    • rick

      another bitter muslim/palestinian whiner posting nonsense blaming the failings of his own society on the most convenient scapegoats, Israel, the US and the Clintons! Happy April fools day, fool. keep singing the muslim/palestinian mantra while packing your underwear and shoes with explosives and and sending rockets and bombing buses: "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us is the cause of our misery".

      April 1, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
    • fred

      poor palestinian/muslim blaming the failure of his people on anyone convenient but himself. your people need to stop complaining and find a job outside the convenience store.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:36 am | Reply
  38. tony

    Beware of the Bush Family and their plots. Another unwanted war is coming to us, courtesy of Israel and out paid dictators of the Middle East

    April 1, 2012 at 1:00 am | Reply
    • B(iraq) Hussein Osama

      War is helpful. It creates jobs, important manufacturing jobs in America. Imagine the billions of economic activity generated by building highly sophisticated human killing machines. Just the technological research helps keep thousands of universities across the nation solvent.

      The cost of killing a bunch of worthless ragheads in the Middle East is a small price to pay for the benefits of war. Those idiots would kill each other anyway if we were not out there killing them. So technically we have nt killed anyone! Our losses are also minimal, a bunch of mexicans and east europeans kids who would otherwise by pushing drugs on the streets are recruited and college educated by the military. If they die, one less drug pusher to harm our society, if they live, one more college educated kid with a good resume and a future.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:50 am | Reply
      • we cried for help, but nobody came

        But its wrong and should be stopped. they are not ragheads. they are actual humans.

        April 1, 2012 at 8:53 am |
      • we cried for help, but nobody came

        Mr Osama, please try to fit your therapist into your schedule soon. you have unresolved issues.

        April 1, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • bam

      JEB BUSH will be the next war mongerer....

      April 1, 2012 at 2:16 am | Reply
    • rick

      oooooooooooo Bush family .......oooooooooooo plots ...........ooooooooooo.israel ooooooooooooo tony, the April fool!..........ooooooooooooooo

      April 1, 2012 at 8:38 am | Reply
  39. KEVIN21261

    Who cares about Syria??? What do they have to offer us??? We have bigger fish to fry (i.e. Mexico). Syria is a soviergn Nation and no other nation should involve themselves in their disputes.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:48 am | Reply
    • Cambride Ray

      Mexico is our partner, hardly a fish, and much less willing to be fried.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:53 am | Reply
    • bam

      When mexicans start to vote like ALL the other immigrants that make up the USA do they will vote u to be burned and dragged by horse through San Jose

      April 1, 2012 at 2:18 am | Reply

    The only reason our government wants to take out Syria is for Israel. When they bomb Iran they don't want Syria interfering. Why not sacrifice American blood and dollars to take out Iran's biggest ally? Our politicians have no backbone whatsoever to stand up to this Israeli scum. They're flat out evil.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:13 am | Reply
    • malina

      Whynot?! At least you can calm down if you enlist in the Army and find out for your self, that life is not only making dollars. But, you – angryman can make a difference in other people's life. Tell me later, how angry you are.

      April 1, 2012 at 12:37 am | Reply

        ??? You speaka da english?

        April 1, 2012 at 1:12 am |
    • B(iraq) Hussein Osama

      What is America without the jews? nothing! they built Hollywood, they built the entire financial infrastructure in America. They made America, and now they are using it to finance their homeland. Whats to complain about?

      April 1, 2012 at 1:53 am | Reply
      • steve

        You should have never gone to hollywood

        April 1, 2012 at 2:12 am |
    • rick

      have you considered changing your name to to "angry crap poster" which is far more descriptive of your posts? of all the april fools/muslim apologists and outright propagandists, you are right up there on top. good luck with your anger.oooooooooooooooo israel .........ooooooooooo jews.......ooooooooo muslims good, jews bad........ooooooooo

      April 1, 2012 at 8:47 am | Reply


    April 1, 2012 at 12:11 am | Reply
    • rick

      better advice would be, close up the trailer, put away the beer and get some sleep. America is awake to your crap. keep supporting the shoe and underwear bombers while living in deaborn and crying the muslim/palestinian credo: "woe is me. woe is me, we are the victims of our own hypocrisy"

      April 1, 2012 at 9:05 am | Reply
  42. Melchior

    I am surprised how naive our western politicians are with regard to middle eastern politics. I have been to Syria many times in the 1980ies and know the problems at Homs and sourrounding area. Many of the people living there are islamic fundamentalists, and the oppositon of today are the decendends of the victims of the military crackdown by Assad's father in those day's, and the backbone of the oppostion living outside Syria. The fast majority of Syrians are in favour of Assad, and do not want the country to be ruled by islamists. The minority of the opposition is secular minded, and if Assad falls, they will be voiceless like it is the trend now in Egypt. Compared to Saudi Arabia, Syria is a rather liberal country, no restrictions on alcolhol, nightclubs, live music, freedom for the women etc. Why did nobody interfere when the Shia majority population in Bahrain started demonstrating last year and the protest was brought down with the help of the Saudis. In Syria it is the other way round, the majorty are Sunni Muslim, but the majority of them support the government. The Saudi's do not support the Syrian government, because they are not Sunni Muslim.
    The real problem in the middle east is the Wahabi Islam of Saudi Arabia, but they have oil, while Syria does not.
    Despite the fact that Syria maintains good relations with Iran, they do not have much in common. Syria is still a secular country with a guided democracy, while Iran is a relgious dictorship. They are only cooperating because the west did the mistake to isolate Syria because they were not supportive with regard to Israel, but believe me Syria under Assad is still a better neigbour for Israel than any other government which might evolve from a change in government, which I hope will not happen.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:09 am | Reply
    • Omar

      Sorry to say, but your analysis is all over the place."Syria is still a secular country with a guided democracy"! What guided democracy brings the son of the president who ruled for 30 years and changes the constituation in 2 hours so he can be elgible to be president at 35! The only thing you got right is the current regime's friendliness with Israel, they're the best thing that happened to Israel sine it was established, and that is basically why Al Assad is not falling, Israel does not want him to go.

      April 1, 2012 at 4:07 am | Reply
      • rick

        is this april fools day or "april crazies" day? assad is "friends" with Israel and Israel is supporting assad? when did they become friends. last night around your hookah, Omar? cant the arabs even take credit for their own uprising? do all the arabs/muslims and palestinian apologists, and "angryamerican" aka "angry crapposter" really believe this nonsense?

        April 1, 2012 at 9:17 am |

    Wow.....that's all I have to say. We want to turn this country into a mess just like we did with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. Enough is enough. Have you guys ever heard of the term BLOWBACK? Google it and do a little research. That's what's going to happen 10 fold. We're obviously doing this for Israel to weaken Iran's alliances. Our government could care less about the American people. It's always Israel first, America second.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:09 am | Reply
    • rick

      ooooooooooooo israel................ article about syria but all angry crap poster can see is israel.........oooooooooo obsession...........oooooooooo muslims good, israel bad..........ooooooooooooo beer and hookah running low on saturday night.................... oooooooooo

      April 1, 2012 at 9:10 am | Reply
  44. heads up

    I'm busy with herschrijven but please people if jou one help your country every civilian need to go on the street call on direct ban of olle the candidats that are tring to run as president and the republicans.
    Becoss Thay olle got now social brain's. honger for power.
    O Bama is the one, How can you help O bama to run the country
    How can you help obama whit fichting.
    Go on the street call on fote direct ban.
    wen he is fighting the business men that lost olle of ther social abillity, Its a ficht Agenst the ego the ego is the evil. those are the bisness men on the top.
    thay do not care about you, You as Civilians can demand a ban.

    April 1, 2012 at 12:06 am | Reply
  45. Neurotoxin

    Does it occur to anyone that, just maybe, the people in Syria might not want a committee of foreigners and expatriates who haven't been in the country for over a decade planning their economy and writing their Constitution? It isn't difficult to be opposed to a mass-murdering psychopath like Al-Assad; but that alone does not qualify anyone to govern Syria. Why is it accepted without question that it is the place of foreign governments to jump in and "assist" a country like Syria post-crisis? These governments are far from benelovent and most of the Arab ones don't even pretend to be democratic; in fact, the rise to power of every deposed ME dictator so far can be attributed to their post-WWII meddling. The US wrote its own Constitution, as did most South American countries post-independence – it is blatantly racist and ethnocentric to claim any Arab nation is not capable of doing the same. There may be blood and conflict and instability in the process, but that happened here too, and our meddling in the ME doesn't exactly have a track record of avoiding these things. STFO and let them resolve their own mess – the costs will be the same as the intervention, but they may actually benefit a representative government.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Reply
    • heads up

      Never give up the ficht for the good, fuck the evil you cot step whit the steel boot on the evil, evry county of the united nations have to get one iline en kill the head of evil.

      April 1, 2012 at 12:35 am | Reply
  46. Mike G.

    Just adding my two cents;
    Have you ever wondered why the middle east countries have dictatorships?
    Here's my reasoning;
    Without these SECULAR dictatorships all of the many fanatical religious sects would be in constant warfare with each other.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Reply
    • Neurotoxin

      Religious fanaticism is not as common in the ME as the US media makes you think. Militant Islamism rose as an avenue of anti-Western agression with the Ayatollahs in Iran and their influence; and most residents in these countries may not like the US but they thoroughly detest militant Islamists – you would too if they were constantly setting off explosives and killing people in proximity to your house, even if they claimed to do it in the name of your religion. The real barrier to democracy in the ME is the tribal organization; most people follow their tribal leaders and the leader with the largest tribe would win any election, but then the people from other tribes would not accept him. The departing British and French Mandates post WWII tried to turn these tribal relations into a Medieval European network of monarchies and aristocracy; but most of them were taken out within 2 decades by militant dictators relying first and foremost on the support of tribes left out of power. The ME is in a different stage of societal development than Europe or North America, and we aren't helping propel them forward by trying to force our system on them top-down.

      March 31, 2012 at 11:57 pm | Reply
    • heads up

      This world is no place for people that do not one grow there decensie,

      April 1, 2012 at 1:23 am | Reply
  47. heads up

    my excuse for the bad english ... I'm busy with rewriting
    but please people if you help your country every one Civilian need to go on the street call on immediate ban on the olle candidats THAT ARE tring to run as presedent,
    The navy no olle Breens only hungry for power, O bama is the one, How can Abama run a countrie, wen he is fichting the bisness That solves one olle ther social or abillity, Its a Ficht Agenst the ego.
    and thay will do everyting to block Obama Obama is a good.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Reply
    • jackola

      Fuchting is better than fichting. You can take that to the bank.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:17 am | Reply
  48. D.Smithee

    Well, that's easy–DON'T INTERVENE IN SYRIA. Let them tear each other apart. It's none of our business, just like invading Iraq should have never happened.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:33 pm | Reply
  49. Anna

    Maybe they should be worried about this little piece of news also:


    March 31, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Reply
    • fsl

      u guys r out of money. U borrow from chinese to keep things going. Other countries are stealing ur jobs and all u care about is israel.....

      April 1, 2012 at 12:39 am | Reply
      • rick

        visa denied again? oh darn, too bad, so sad. keep up the twittering and keep crying about how US is mistreating you and the syrians who are killing syrians and the libyans killing libyans, and the yemenis killing yemenis, and the afghanis getting acid thrown in their little girls faces. we appreciate your concern about "us" going broke and our financial dealings with the chinese but we can handle our problems without your help.

        April 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |
  50. toomanylawyers

    Ever noticed that the countries that are in such turmoil...where there is so much blood shed...are Muslims. It seems like they don't value human life except, of course, if an american loses it and kills some people. When the crazy Islamists kill, that's ok.

    March 31, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Reply
    • Feltch

      True. If they were American, they'd be far too busy raping and murdering children.

      March 31, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Reply
    • B(iraq) Hussein Osama

      Ever notice that none of the world wars or the jewish holocausts involved any Muslims!

      you would think they would be dead in the center of these catastrophic events, since we are talking about the "value of human life".

      April 1, 2012 at 1:59 am | Reply
      • rick

        the arabs and mid east muslims were allies of Hitler. ever look at the pictures in a history book?

        April 1, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  51. Bruehaha

    Syria another Iraq? Here;s a comment from a right-winger. Try something different. Ignore it! I think most of us will agree on that!

    March 31, 2012 at 11:03 pm | Reply
  52. Wolf Daddy Deluxe 5000

    but we didnt need to worry about Iraq in the first place...

    March 31, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
  53. fantazamaraz

    The Assads are repressive butchers ! they can NEVER be trusted at their word ! They need to meet the same fate as saddam and ghadaffi !

    March 31, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      Agreed on Assads. But should Syria become another "better Syria" as Libya is a "better" place without Gaddafi now?

      March 31, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • jorge washinsen

      To be a dictator you have to be a butcher.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:21 am | Reply
  54. David

    Stop supporting Israeli aggression.

    Research israels crimes against humanity.

    March 31, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Reply
    • rick

      t. another lazy hookah smoker.......... wants us to do "research" on ".crimes against humanity", indeed! you mean like rockets launched into civilian areas, bus bombers, athlete killers, or retaliatory strikes against your buddies after they attack israeli civilians? How about beating your butts in 1948, 1967 and 1973? those crimes? or are your referring to the israeli government just last month fighting with its own citizens to protect palestinian property

      April 1, 2012 at 9:33 am | Reply
  55. Capt. Obvious

    Smart, make things work that didnt work in the other countries. thats a better game plan by far

    March 31, 2012 at 10:42 pm | Reply
    • Frank Oliver

      Poor Hilary Clinton! Such a fine and philantropic lady! Such a soft hearted mom! So worried about the Syrians! Can't believe Assad is not listening to her and steps down immediatly so US, Britain, France, Nato and the rest of pius bandits bring to Syria same peace, safety, national unity, democracy and freedom they brought to Libya by their regime change.
      Hilary: I respected you and Obama so much. But you now: F**********************************cku both!

      March 31, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Reply
  56. heads up

    The tool to prevent, the politician en bisness men, companiens thet are political atecht, teaking care of political bisness.
    Im talking about political bisness like, war bisness, heltcare, political partys, justise department, from wrongdoing woeld by a tool onlly aveleble for cevilians, who are not atecht to the named bisness types not atecht to the inner works, to have a option to call on vote, derect ban of a binsness men poleticion's from ever teaking a foot in such bisness. olle the monny that they got out of it need to be teaking away.

    If we would have that aveleble, than we are a step closer to have a proper society.

    We can not have greed, roeling your world, becoss the posebilitie is thare it wil kill you and your children et the end.

    The call to you:
    What you can do!? demend a justiche tool, for you to kick a enemy of society out of power.
    Becoss you need to have the decent in power.

    March 31, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Reply
  57. heads up

    Every country that is part of United nation need to suport, the kil of a dictator, ficht for the richt.
    Most people wand freedom, freedom globel scaal can only by implamented, wen oll the countries that do not hafe a democresie like the western europen countries. to be reorgenist, wen we are able to do that, en have dan that, freedom on a globel schaal can be athiefd, so that means you dont have too wory annemor . wHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I LOES MY JOB OR IF I GET SIK.
    No more war!
    The Onlly problem is that humans need to chance ther way of thinking.
    what's inportant the I or what can I do for him.

    Overview of development in such a sustanebility autoexposure and efficent manner possible.
    The vegetables and fruit will soon change, because there are systems in development brings the whole growth procces to a worthy product, scarcely a hand in sight. cars no longer run on fuel but they get energy from the ground.
    The energy is obtained by wind energy and solar enegie.
    These forms of energy supply will ensure that uitstote pollutant gases disappear.
    The product already exists, you must realize that only 5% of 90% ontwikelde products actually in the market place.
    The reason why 85% of the ontwikede products do not function because the digital money system is not operating.
    (The operation function of t 'digital money system can be found in my pads, after seeing all documanteren have on my hyves you can understand how big the problems are.
    The problem is increasing.
    We are in a dangerous time.
    Our only answer is the digital money system.

    2. Much attention and money in the herstucturen of nations where the citizen is very limited by dictatorship so Misen opportunities to liberate themselves.
    The United Nation have a lot of money invested to scucturen Economy as obtaining democracy in countries where citizens call for help, to get them ondoen of depression.
    The Amiricanse, France and British politics as the Dutch and the Belgians have a lot of money to change to take place.
    The problem we now are that there is no money available, goeit dept look at greece.

    3. The shortage of money:

    The money shortage by korupte banking system and the greed of big business and its bisnessmannen Unitedfruit.The such as United Fruit Company was a United States corporation traded That in tropical fruits (bananas Primarily) grown on third world and sold in the Plantations United States and Europe. The company was formed in 1899 from the merger of Minor C. Keith's banana trading concerns with Andrew W. Preston's Boston Fruit Company. It flourished in the early and mid-20th century and came down to control territories and transportation networks in Central America, the Caribbean coast of Colombia, Ecuador, and the West Indies. Though it competed with the Standard Fruit Company for dominance in the international banana trade, it maintained a virtual monopoly in 'certain regions, some of which came to be called banana republics. [1]
    It had a deep and long lasting impact on the economic and political development or Several Latin American countries. Critics Accused Often it or exploitative neocolonialism and Described it as the archetypal example of the influence of a multinational corporation on the internal politics of the banana republics (a term coined by O. Henry). After a period of financial decline, United Fruit was merged with Eli M. Black's AMK in 1970 to become the United Brands Company. In 1984, Carl Lindner, Jr.. United Brands transformed into the present-day Chiquita Brands International.

    Similarly, Halliburton is a company specializing in services and supplies to the oil and gas industry, founded in 1919.
    The company has two subsidiary groups.
    KBR is a construction firm for refineries, oil fields, pipelines and chemical plants, and focuses on three markets:
    gas and oil
    oil refining
    military and civilian service to governments. Thus for example the new KBR train Iraqi policemen. KBR provides everything needed for military operations, and subsequent reconstruction of a country.
    Halliburton Energy Services is a multinational company with headquarters in Houston, with more than 95,000 employees. Halliburton provides technical products and services for oil and gas
    The company is controversial because it took a large government contracts (up to $ 18 billion) during and after the second Gulf War in Iraq, including a $ 7 billion contract without tender or competition. Dick Cheney, U.S. Vice President under George W. Bush was CEO of Halliburton from 1995 to 2000, and still has financial interests in the group.
    Halliburton building in New Orleans
    Furthermore, the company was embroiled in bribery scandals, and operates in Iran.
    Our current monetary system continues to grow market questions.
    The greed of the binessman.
    This system has a shelf life date.

    The Ameri cans have big problems, and also because we each member country of the United nations robbed and plundered by the banks got selfish, business life, economists, which is free from them capitata language can increase.

    How can we survive:
    1. we need global alignment in terms of thinking in a humane manner, so let us not manage by greed, I will survive death and I will kill you because your others, until a handful of people who remained satisfied with each closing but the knowledge that we make models is lost back to prehistoric times. a million years, the story begins again.

    2. A new monetary system:
    placed in a united nation.
    Where a nation is the head administrator, property of politics but not the bisnessman of us.
    What is the advantage of the digital money, digital gondstoffen we do not need to use the wall is digital. and that is to say that money, but is a number of infinitely large.

    3. Each member nation has its head bank's receipt so money goes to politics all businesses are owned by politicians.
    Important products such as fruit, vegetable cultivation, cattle geaotomatiseert, most of the raw products is a handful of employees at all, because a machine needs maintenance, these individuals deserve special 2000 digital pennies, not the acting deserves 1600, and with that money they can buy products such as it is now also going.
    Suppose you want a berdijf boot then there is a possibility.
    You go to the head receipt couch ... found useful is your plan, then you can start your business you set up so the company has a creative solution.
    And I see no problem if I go out that we are guided by a law human person.

    4. cont rolle about people:
    people should be free to be able to evolve.
    as it goes, veellen will behave and some will misbehave.
    but I am convinced that once we all have equal rights, much crime will disappear. because you do not have to worry about money.

    The digital money is a godsend.
    And I think it's nonsense that people all opvoorhand going to say that we are slaves, and indeed I am lation of sample preparation that we will have that Freedom zoeen large Menssen In a long but short term the sense of freedom to experience.
    The automation played a role in belqangrijke in business,
    So slavenij bag disappear.

    5. recycling

    All products that are available to consumers duuzaam recycalbaar and updateable.
    The recycling should happen efficent.

    6. Recycling and education and new goods:

    Recycling of the digital money if committed is consumed comes back up in the banking system of the head.

    I mean what do you people even more now .. That is funking freedom that we have never experienced!

    So what is important to get our hands on a head up, and on a line because if we negatively before we get a limitation.
    and that implies that implies that we break.

    I want peace not war, see no evil, I want to be free.

    and when we have digital money, war is not necessary!!!!
    It is red means Oze, the dept is huge and growing problem of people there is no escape, we have been ruined, war will break out all the time and money and that we have put in the restructure of depression in countries where large will have been for nothing .
    These are very cultures that have moved forward, and to ondoen of radicals.

    As the politics out of money by the banking system and the Human lose bisness have selfish men.

    We have to move to the new digital money system and that system is ready.
    The Unite politics is fighting with the banks, a group of people who Funking so much power and such a big ego that nothing absolutely nothing we normal people to your business.

    With the new money system, the roles were running.

    And we .... Citizens should take care of that ... idereen 1x per week should send a letter to our congregation.
    The best a handwritten letter and told you that the new digital cash system is to come.
    Do not let others think for you, do not wait, the longer we wait, the greater our problems!!!!!

    I hope all of you quickly delve into what is happening in Oze world.
    and realize that things must change, because the clock ticking, and ticking by and we citizens do not engage in ... because we are generally busy with our own immediate environment our ego!!

    March 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Reply
    • Feltch

      Let me pussy for you, tonight?

      March 31, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Reply
      • worsty


        April 1, 2012 at 12:54 am |
    • heads up

      my excuse for the bad engels... I'm busy with herschrijven
      but please people if jou one help your country every civilian need to go on the street call on direct ban on olle the candidats that are tring to run as presedent,
      The olle havy no breens only honger for power, O bama is the one, How can Abama run a countrie, wen he is fichting the bisness men that lost olle of ther social abillity, Its a ficht Agenst the ego.
      en thay wil do everyting to blok Obama, Obama is a good.

      March 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Reply
      • worsty

        we understand HEADS UP ...if obama goes then so does the rest of the dictators via BOOM

        April 1, 2012 at 12:57 am |
      • bighappynerd

        My olles have plenty of breens!

        April 1, 2012 at 1:49 am |
  58. hez316


    March 31, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Reply
    • bighappynerd

      lol. He should probably learn English before he writes the Unibomber Manifesto.

      April 1, 2012 at 1:46 am | Reply
  59. romeo

    this is ridiculous. this stupid government angers me. it's not our country for us to act as if it's our business and as if we have a right to tell them what they should be doing and interfere directly supporting the so called opposition which we created to change a regime. THIS IS UNETHICAL.

    March 31, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Reply
    • Noelyn

      I understand is good for the Syrian armed forces to full back. However, what will the lawless rebels do after? Go ahead and terrorize the towns and communities. Is the U.S. asking the rebels to lay down their arms? If not. I will agree with the Assad initiative to leave the army on the streets. There cannot be a one way track in a peace plan.

      March 31, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Reply
    • bolock

      Obsolutely right. We , along with China and Russia should be discussing the post-Obama country we will have when we change him for another regime. Also I think Mrs Clinton is better off steping down and going home to Bill instead of putting her 2 cents worth wherever she goes. You are obsolutely right Assad does not need to go anywhere, This whole Arab spring has been a fabrication by the West to get more control in the region nothing more, nothing less.

      March 31, 2012 at 10:24 pm | Reply
  60. Dave

    Zionism greed and its servants at their best trying to use wars to excel their evil agenda to steal the wealth of the deprived people to build their empire of dictatorships, wars, destruction, and atrocities to protect and feed the Zionist greed.

    March 31, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Reply
    • j3w hater

      YOU SIR are a neo-nazi sypathizeR

      March 31, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Reply
    • rick

      .........ooooooooooo zionists...........oooooooooo zionists ......... zionists on dearborn daves mind............... all the time........ooooooooooooooo poor muslims, everything they do is because of israel.........ooooooooo everything that happens to them is because of israel,,,,,,,,,ooooooooo muslims good, jews bad.........oooooooooooooo

      April 1, 2012 at 9:47 am | Reply
  61. Dave

    Is Sauid Arabia, Jordan, Oman, UAE, Yemen, Bahrain, Kuwait, having more human rights, democracy, and freedom or Syria? Not only these states have even worst records than Syria but also all have even been imposed on the region and supported by US, UK, FR and a few other western countries!? The same countries are now sending in weapons to topple the puppet dictator whose time is up to replace him with a better reliable responsible puppet to better serve the masters by depriving his people from the same basic rights which they are being killed to gain?

    March 31, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Reply


    March 31, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Reply

      Assad, hold the line ! Annilate the rebelling forces, self-styled freedom fighters, for longover-due peace and stability of Sysira !

      March 31, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Reply


        March 31, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
      • j3w hater

        I Look forward to meeting you on the battlefield when im a marine you FU3KER

        March 31, 2012 at 10:10 pm |

      Syria peace process could only be obtained in the absence of foreign intervention. Syrians should rumintate on the all-but-certain fallout, like the chaotic security and economic situation if he present leadership was ousted by the west, rife in Irqp, Egypt, Lybia...etc. Destiny of Syria rests with its own people, not with those oppotion force in or outside the ground, pursuing their policitcal power and entitlement in parallel with subduing to west to serve Geo-political purpose, the fundraizer and slave master ! Amusing is that west along with those expats for 30-40 years out of Syria is planning Plan B for a ligetimate sovereignty regime underlied by public support ?

      March 31, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Reply
  63. support a very foreign policy


    ASSAD MAY BE TURNED OVER AFTER THE REBELS ARE CRUSHED TO APPEASE THE USA AND THE UN . but be assured in no way is the syrian gov going anywhere. PUTIN HAS MADE THAT VERY CLEAR OVER THE LAST YEAR AND I DO NOT THINK HE IS GOING TO BACK DOWN when he has obama asking for favors for support for election. HAUNTING WORDS >>>>> I WILL TRANSMIT THIS TO VLADIMIR .

    March 31, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Reply
  64. The Styk

    we replace the dictators only to fight extremists, you know the extremists are hiding behind the ideology of freedom, but in reality, they have to rely on the decades, centuries of molding to totally understand freedom or what the whole idea has with the seperation of church and state... and then when we figure we got it all figured out that those who work hard, and get ahead.. then we have to deal with the sepration of class, which contiues to grow.. it all ends in "let them eat cake".. and we start again.. this is so cool how we learn from our history and then do it again... a moron is some one who does the same thing again expecting a different out come.. maybe its time to push the buttons and see what rises from the ruble... wooo, good I wish I could afford a button

    March 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Reply
  65. ImsickofArabs

    Civil war – one group of thugs trying to get what the other group of thugs has!

    March 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Reply
  66. PraiseTheLard

    Well, seeing what the Syrians are doing to other Syrians, is it any wonder why Israel needs to be the superpower in the region? Imagine what the Arabs would do to the Jews were they to ever be allowed acquire military superiority...

    March 31, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Reply
  67. Jeyoung

    I hope the Syrians crush Assad. Down with dictators! First Mubarak, then Gaddafi and now this guy!

    March 31, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Reply
    • jorge washinsen

      Yeh we did a good job.Now what?

      April 1, 2012 at 10:24 am | Reply
  68. Bobby

    Too funny, Syria unlike Iraq has not invaded a neighboring country. Silly Hillary Dillary Dock 😉

    March 31, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Reply
    • Matt

      Um... Do Israel and Lebanon not count?

      March 31, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Reply
  69. Cindy

    No matter how it turns out, the US will be the bad guy. It is time for other countries to take on this problem. Anyway, China probably will not loan us the money to go to war.

    March 31, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Reply
    • chevarra

      True, but if the U.S. doesn't do anything, then they'll also be viewed as the bad guy for sitting back and letting it all happen. So if we will be viewed as the bad guy no matter what, why not try and help the people in need in the process?

      March 31, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Reply
      • jorge washinsen

        Enough stupidity is enough.We are not gaining.

        April 1, 2012 at 10:26 am |
  70. mike p

    We have enough major issues in this country to be worried about everyone else's. Besides, every time we stick our noses in other countrys' buisness we get more hated on. Lets worry about people within the U.S. for a change.

    March 31, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Reply
  71. indep100

    Aren't these Syrian rebels the same people the US was killing left and right in Falluja Iraq?

    March 31, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Reply
    • duckforcover


      March 31, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Reply
  72. williamjglover

    How about this: Let's just not get involved and let them sort out their own mess. Where does it say in the US Constitution that we have to be involved in regime change in other countries? No where.

    March 31, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Reply
    • The Styk

      No where!!!!!!! but the lack of control in the outside world means that America does not have to deal with their own internal issues and can blame the problems on other people s problems, granted it has become an international economy, its is a fantastic oportunity to blame the fire burning inside on those 2500 miles away. I hope everyone has a place to hide when some red wearing mexican in Brooklyn catches the attention of the Wallstreet Sit in with some Nazi sayings slogans that we all recognize we have not got that much smarter. Maybe we don't focus on color,creed, breed... but is sucks when your pondering your retirement and the said "man" has your reality in his/her control. "let them eat cake " might not be that far away....

      March 31, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Reply
  73. callinmclaughlin

    The US, needs Syria to fall period! It goes against Iran...and thats what its all about, takin Iran! The main problem now is, a new player is involved, that knows the story, from 9/11, till present time! That player is Russia! China is the wild card, but, when it comes down to push and can damn well bet, China will not side with the US! Control the oil in the middle east, and you basically control the world! And thats the bottom line here! Oil, Black Gold, TEXAS tea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 31, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      Saudi Arabia wants Assad gone. Therefore he is gone. Now it just a matter of when and how. They don't want to kill him because that Kadaffi thing got really messy, but he is leaving, make no mistake about it. The Saudis rule that part of the world.

      March 31, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Reply
  74. brown

    Take a look at your best and brightest America! hahaha! Look at the dregs whom purport to represent you around
    the world. Disgusting! One day a war will come to America!

    March 31, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Reply
    • Crashish Laroque

      It has already...they're at war with themselves.

      March 31, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      what countries do you represent? You both sound like teenage American lads.

      March 31, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Reply
    • Cindy

      Been to Florida lately?

      March 31, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Reply
    • King of Men

      Not soon enough.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:59 am | Reply
  75. sugarendra

    Contrary to its previous statement the Muslim Brotherhood has announced its own candidate for the Egyptian presidential election to be held in May.This should be a clear indication to Mrs.Clinton the direction in which the wahabized Sunni rebels of Homs are trying to take Syria.

    March 31, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Reply
  76. Chicano light

    Action not words, a snail can move faster then the U.S. government. You should not think a solution into extinction. One year of planning is pitiful to stop the actions of a criminal regime. Solve the problem today, not tomorrow. Democracy will be a lot better for the Syrian people versus the Dictatorship model.

    March 31, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Reply
    • wario

      Hod do you know that? Democracy doesn't work everywhere, otherwise we would live in a very "undemocratic" world. If you have "freedom" but don't know how to deal with it, there is a problem. That's why democracy wouldn't work in some countries.

      March 31, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Reply
      • heads up

        This world is no place for people that do not one grow there decensie,
        we need to kick them of the ollie that de more decent united nations need.

        April 1, 2012 at 1:12 am |
    • heads up

      I agree. but its time for Chia to show wy the are part of united nations.

      April 1, 2012 at 12:57 am | Reply
  77. tom

    the u.s. is slowly taking over: drones, highest $$$ spent on the military, cutting edge technology, global positioning, constant real-war training. soooooo, that being the case, i say let them do whatever they want in syria. there is nothing we can do to prevent it. it's just a matter of time.

    March 31, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Reply
  78. pwstatz1121

    I think that Turkey should invade Syria and make it apart of the new Ottoman Empire. At least there will be order. One can not believe what Iran, Iraq, Isreal, the so called Palistinians, Hamas, the PLO (if they still exist) and other little people groups out there.

    March 31, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Reply
  79. Keksi

    USA should worry about...USA.

    March 31, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • Cambride Ray

      Tell that to James Monroe...

      April 1, 2012 at 1:57 am | Reply
      • Cambride Ray

        ... and to Teddy Roosevelt.

        April 1, 2012 at 2:06 am |
  80. JustRichard

    Syria will not be another Iraq if the US stays out of it. Just sayin'

    March 31, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Reply
    • Ina

      From IFC:Report from Community Discussions: White Flag NightsThe following is infoomatirn gathered from the Bed Lists at Community House from January 2009 through December 2009:Number of men slept on overflow for the 12 months: 1,688Number of days we slept men on overflow during the 12 months: 197Highest number of men slept on any given day: 25Lowest number of men slept on any given day: 1Average number of men slept (1,688/365): 5From July 1 through December 31 we looked at the names of the men who slept on overflow:Men slept: 563Men who were not duplicated (slept on multiple nights): 177Highest number of nights spent by any one man: 37Lowest number of nights spent by any one man: 1

      July 1, 2012 at 1:03 am | Reply
  81. malina

    Can't rely on the M.Brotherhood, they are dangerous minded people, that opposes secular way of life in the region.
    Never know which tune of music the M.Brotherhood will sing in Syria "The Day After", or elsewhere if they are united. Might even become more dangerous than it started. Secular minds needed in the Middle East. They openly dislike the Turkish model, of having a secular government. Nothing is good for the Brothers so far. Wish me good luck.

    March 31, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  82. XieMing Mai

    There is a massive campaign to weaken Syria, following the NeoCon/Pentagon plan outlined by General Wesley Clark in his book "Winning Modern Wars" (pg. 130 et passim). Lands to be toppled included Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. Iran, Libya, Somalia and Sudan.

    Thus, the massive propaganda campaign is a fig leaf to cover realpolitik.

    The public is becoming aware of both the campaign and the evil mess the NeoCons have induced, the most recent example being Libya.

    Hillary's efforts in Istanbul will resemble the hearding of reluctant cats- the Cabalists!

    March 31, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Reply
    • Anthony

      apox2011nowUnderstand this Greg. Big money has been in gold and silver 1,000 s of years beorfe the light bulb turned on for you or me. George Soros could buy every freakn' ounce of physical gold in existence. He has that much money. And the Rothchilds could bury his ass any day of the week with their supply. They have been running civilization for thousands of years. Think that's going to end because a couple people buy some ounces of gold? Those are the scraps they let you grovel over.December 13, 2011, 12:36 pm

      June 29, 2012 at 11:04 am | Reply
  83. Ohsambamba

    A pity those folks DON'T HAVE GUNS, huh, Hil?

    March 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Reply
  84. shivadass

    Check out this new blog.
    This is NOT spam. This is your Wake Up Call America.

    March 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Reply
  85. The Wiz

    Assad will die soon... Assad, after bin Laden, the next shark food.

    March 31, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      I sincerely hope not. He is well educated, a doctor, and western schooled. But you may be right. Saudi Arabia has spoken.

      March 31, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Reply
    • King of Men

      Who gives a fuck? So will you.

      April 1, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
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