Iran nukes: How would the world know?
Fordow enrichment plant near Qom, Iran
March 26th, 2012
03:00 AM ET

Iran nukes: How would the world know?

By Pam Benson

American officials are adamant. The U.S. will respond - possibly with military force - if Iran crosses a red line and decides to actually make nuclear weapons.

But will the U.S. know with an degree of certainty that a line has been crossed?

The decision itself to push ahead really comes down to one person, according to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Clapper told a Senate hearing recently that any decision would be based on "the supreme leader's world view and the extent to which he thinks that would benefit the state of Iran or, conversely, not benefit."

Clapper was referring to Ayatollah Ali Khameini, the supreme leader of Iran.

"It's Khameini, period, full stop, end of sentence," agreed Kenneth Pollack, an Iran expert at the Brookings Institution.

But trying to read one person's mind is no easy thing, observed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently, noting how Iraq's Saddam Hussein was misread by U.S. intelligence.

"People sometimes say and do things that are at variance with what one might expect," the secretary of state said. "It's still quite bewildering to me why Saddam Hussein wanted everyone to believe that he had chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons of mass destruction when apparently he did not."

Ephraim Asculai, a retired Israeli nuclear scientist, said there are three ways the world will know if Iran has decided to break out and make a dash to nuclear weapons: Iran tells everyone, the the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) discovers it, or the intelligence community figures it out. But he is not terribly confident any intelligence service - whether it's the United States' or Israel's or some other nation's– will discover it.

"Depending on the intelligence community - this is not very good," Asculai said.

Even though the weaponization program may be stopped, Iran continues to push ahead with the more difficult component of a potential nuclear weapons program, the manufacturing of fissile material.

The IAEA is able to keep tabs on Iran's uranium enrichment efforts. Although Iran is not believed to be enriching to weapons-grade, it is churning out stockpiles of lower-enriched uranium that could be rather quickly - within two to three months - enriched to the 90% needed for a weapon.

Current and former intelligence officials agree that IAEA inspectors play an instrumental role.

CIA Director David Petraeus recently told a Senate hearing: "I believe their past report was a very accurate reflection of reality, of the situation on the ground. I think that is the authoritative document when it comes to informing the public of all the countries in the world of the situation there."

By just about anyone's account, Iran is one of the toughest intelligence targets.

Kenneth Pollack from Brookings, said the Iranians are "deliberately secret, but it's also a very hard target because Iran is secretive by nature." He called the Iranian system "utterly byzantine and opaque" which will make it difficult to determine if the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has given the green light to produce nuclear weapons.

But former Defense Department official Colin Kahl said the intelligence community doesn't have to hear the order from Khamenei.

"We would likely detect the effects of a decision by Khameini to go for a bomb even if we didn't detect or intercept the order," Kahl said.

He also said there would be some telltale signs of Iran's intentions.

"Convincing evidence the supreme leader had decided to for a bomb would include enrichment of uranium to weapons-grade level or a decision to kick out IAEA inspectors - both actions we would detect," Kahl said.

Without getting specific, U.S. intelligence officials have said they are using everything in the spy toolbox to figure out what Iran may be up to. There are numerous technologies and assets that are likely in play.

Satellites are taking snapshots of known and suspected facilities in Iran looking for signs of construction, movements and any other clues which suggest a weapons program.

Hyperspectral imagery from satellites as well as sensors placed near facilities are able to collect information along the electromagnetic spectrum to detect emissions coming from the building and compounds in the soil that could help determine if there are any radiological materials or other elements associated with nuclear weapons.

A CIA stealth unmanned aerial vehicle recently crashed inside Iran. And although the U.S. government said it was on a mission in Afghanistan near the Iran border, U.S. military officials told CNN the Sentinel drone was on a surveillance mission of suspected nuclear sites in the country.

Intercepting communications coming in and out of Iran falls under the purview of the National Security Agency.

Human intelligence is much tougher for the United States. The lack of diplomatic ties for more than 30 years means there has been no embassy for intelligence officers to use as cover.

But there are signs of human assets on the ground although it is unclear who they might be working for.

Over the past several years, five Iranian scientists associated with nuclear activities have been killed in similar fashion.

Who employed the assassin or assassins is unknown, although many people suspect the Israelis were behind the operations. The Israelis have been mum on any role they might have played.

The unexplained explosions at three sensitive Iranian facilities could suggest a possible sabotage campaign. And cyberexperts say someone with deep knowledge of Iran's enrichment program contributed to the Stuxnet computer virus that disabled a number of Iran's centrifuges. Again, who orchestrated the attack is not known.

Then there is the mysterious case in 2010 of the Iranian scientist who defected to the United States, seemed to have second thoughts and ended up returning to Iran. It's unclear why Shahram Amiri went back to his country, but a U.S official said Amiri had received approximately $5 million for providing the U.S. government with "valuable, original information" on Iran's nuclear program.

But it does raise the question whether there are other scientists in Iran working for the west.

Other intelligence services have also contributed to the knowledge about Iran according to the IAEA. Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name just a few have a vested interest in stopping a potential Iranian nuclear weapons program. Unlike their American counterparts, they have a better ability to blend into Iranian society.

The Iranian opposition group known as MeK, which took credit for publicly disclosing Iran's then-secret nuclear facilities in 2002, is a question mark. The MeK is on the State Department's terrorism list and many U.S. intelligence officials are skeptical about how much the group really knows. But it does have supporters in Iran and as one U.S. official put it, "It's important to consider all leads in assessing Iran's nuclear program and the MeK clearly tries to keep a close eye on it."

The Israelis reportedly work closely with the MeK.

Overall, former CIA Director Hayden does not consider the MeK "a critical part of the narrative" of Iran.

Open source information such as Iranian research papers and academic studies can provide potential clues to Iran's nuclear knowledge.

And keeping an eye on commercial and industrial goods coming into the country not only gives insights into what Iran needs, but also opens the door to the opportunity to sabotage materials critical to a nuclear program.

But in the end, it comes down to whether all of those intelligence assets will paint an accurate enough picture of Iran's activities to help President Barack Obama make what could arguably be the most critical decision of his presidency.

In a commentary on last week, Hayden wrote, "The challenge for American intelligence now is to inform the president of an Iranian decision to weaponize its nuclear stockpile with sufficient confidence and in sufficient time for him to decide to launch a pre-emptive war in one of the world's most sensitive and volatile regions."

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  1. Ariel Penunuri

    March 4, 2021 at 9:52 am | Reply
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  3. Merritt J Swift

    I have no doubt I was brainwashed and misinformed about Saddam's WMDs,but a decade earlier liberal
    groups put out a show on TV to hate Saddam like no other dictator.In the end the
    worse lie was that they the Iraqis where a people yearning to be free and only
    needed a
    chance.Its the nature of the Arabs that I am embittered about.They cannot be
    improved with flower power,reason or brute force.We need walls figuratively and
    literally between our cultures until they enter a proper century or they have out-bred us and absorbed the foolish trusting West. Concerning Mid East nukes,we must modernize and expand our own arsenal ,to have weapons that won't simply god forbid destroy cities but will go down the dictators throats even if they hide 500 feet below ground.Missile defense is a must if it can work,deploy it in Israel and hope and pray its never truly tested.

    April 5, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      You are probably nor aware of this, but you can do things today with conventional weapons that a decade ago required nuclear weapons. With modern precision guidance and the latest penetrator warheads it is perfectly reasonable to use conventional weapons to defeat an enemy's nuclear arsenal. Nuclear weapons are very expensive to maintain and guard, while conventional weapons are not, and conventional weapons do not leave the battlefield uninhabitable afterward, or threaten innocent adjacent nations with atomic fallout. The best conventional weapons can do most of the missions we needed nuclear weapons for a decade ago, leaving nuclear weapons almost exclusively as terror weapons.

      April 9, 2012 at 1:16 am | Reply
  4. Awabnavi

    "Iran nukes: How would the world know?" - The same way the world KNOWS about Israeli nukes.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:33 am | Reply
  5. Matt

    In a way it is a good thing, unlike Saddam in the gulf wars, if a missile is fired by Tehran at Israel we will assume it is nuclear and DEFCON One in response. Same with Syria and as we will have no firm intelligence in relation to Lebanon that the SRBM have not been fitted with a nuclear warhead, same thing. Problem solved. Unleash the mother load.

    I think it is a good thing, why fight the same wars over when you can use nuclear weapons.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:32 am | Reply
  6. Matt

    Israel is scaling back operations on Iran so they may not know. Who cares, just build more nukes, let the region develop nukes, the more the merrier. I think everyone should posses nuclear weapons. In the end Iran will have 1000 missiles in silos in the Persian desert and on mobile launchers. The Arab will create a similar arsenal in response, Israel will increase theirs (if they had one) and Turkey will go nuclear, the region will have 3000 to 4000 nuclear weapons at the least.

    I think it is a good thing.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:17 am | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      Those nations cannot afford such large nuclear arsenals. Nukes are hideously expensive to maintain and to guard. A few hundred is all even the wealthiest nations can reasonably afford.

      April 9, 2012 at 1:18 am | Reply
  7. Alex Povolotski

    Why the U.S. is so afraid if Iranian nuclear capability? The U.S. has more than enough nukes itself as a deterrent. Is the U.S. afraid of destabilizing the region? I don't think so because the U.S. actually contributes to the destabilization of the whole region. Or is it afraid of the new order in the Middle East?

    March 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Reply
  8. nopretenders

    iran can be "smart" bombed like iraq was, for months on end, without ever putting "boots on the ground" if the underground protected bunkers can't be destroyed, destroying their ability to service those bunkers are the next best option even if it means destroying the entire infrastructure
    not doing do would be remiss

    March 26, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Reply
    • Tudeh

      You aren't considering the blowback of such a military action. Initiating a war against Iran will bring about bloody reprisals from Iran and it's affiliates.

      March 26, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Reply
      • JDavis

        It's amazing that so many Americans think we can commit war crimes and there will be no consequences. They forget that we are the most target rich country in the world.

        March 26, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
  9. Terrible_Ted

    These rogue nations don't respect any threat from the USA. The military of the USA is vastly overrated. Your oh so dominant military got whupped in Iraq and Afghanistan by a bunch of farmboys!!u The baby boys of the USA should stick to fighting it out on X-Box.

    March 26, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Reply
    • Jc

      I’m guessing terrible is your understanding of the realities of both Afghanistan and Iraq.
      It took the U.S. about 53 days (March 10- May 1 2003) to defeat Iraq, which had the 4th largest Army in the world at the time. Farm boys…really? They had the most experienced tank units in the world. The Iran-Iraq war lasted 8 years and neither side had a clear victory.
      Afghanistan, it’s a bit more complicated but it took a couple of weeks to drive the Taliban regime out of power, which was the stated goal of the invasion.
      Russia, got its butt handed to it when it attacked the region. Not to dismiss the roles that U.S. allies played in both wars But yeah, take a peak at the situation of the last governments that to “not respect” a threat from the U.S…..Oh wait you can’t, they don’t exist anymore.

      March 27, 2012 at 1:38 am | Reply
      • John Cleveland

        Had we used a single 40 Megaton Thermonuclear warhead, it would have been over in a picosecond.
        End of problem.

        March 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
  10. Mr.Revolution

    Sounds like a good excuse to start a revolution in Iran to bring down their government and establish a more tolerant and self indulgent ethos

    March 26, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Reply
  11. dreamer96

    Saudi Arabia has signed a contract with China to develop nuky plants and that means they could develop their own nuky weapons program, China can build a nuky plant much faster, they prefab theirs and need to just ship in the pieces..Other neighbors across the straits are looking at doing the same thing..Persian Iran is going to be surrounded by Arab nations that have nuclear weapons...the only way Iran can stop that now is to stop their program....or face a future of 5 neighbors with nuclear weapons pointed at them...

    March 26, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Reply
    • Cheese Wonton

      China doesn't build their own nuclear power plants. They have the French and Westinghouse build French and US designed nuclear plants.

      April 9, 2012 at 1:20 am | Reply
  12. Bill

    This question is not terribly difficult to figure out. Of course, if Iran goes far enough to develop a nucleur weapon, the whole point of it is to use it as a detterent. The achievement will be announced with a resounding explosion, as every other nation has done with the exception of Israel, who remains "in the closet". As for an attack, if Iran gets to the point of a detonation, the "deterrent" factor will take effect, and an invasion would be unlikely. As we have seen from the past (i.e. Iraq, N. Korea, and Pakistan), itelligence is incapable of determining if and when this explosion will take place.

    March 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Reply
    • i8on

      Bill, the article states that the Islamic Replublic of Iran is making and stockpiling urainium which can be enriched to weopon grade in 2-3 months, and that when they begin to do so we can detect it. However, they will soon have too numerous locations of the materials needed to build nuclear bombs for Israel to alone prevent them from keeping the Mullah's promise to destroy them. The USA can wait longer, having greater abilities. Force of logic convines everyone, the Mullahs and President Obama, that Israel will-because they MUST- delay the Islamic Replublic of Iran's ability to destroy them.

      March 26, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Reply
    • lance

      The time and place of an detonation may be unknown to Iran !

      March 26, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Reply
    • dreamer96

      You guys are forgetting about our super secret nuky powered underground self tunneling nuky just stick them in the ground around the border of Iran, tell them where to go, and they dig their way to the deep underground bunker and vaporize it...We have been doing horizontal drilling for quite sometime now..we know how to do it well..Just a little puff of smoke and a you will see the sunken ground above their underground lads..

      March 26, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Reply
      • laughable

        its all in you post name , your a DREAMER

        March 26, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
  13. JDavis

    Iran already has nukes and they've had them for twenty years. Go over the the NTI org site and look at their nuclear chronology for Iran. There are several reports of Iran buying nukes from the former Soviet republics as the Soviet Union was disintegrating. We can't admit that, however, as it ruins our argument for war–that Iran would use nukes as soon as they got them. But they haven't, have they? We are the only county that ever did that.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Reply
    • nard

      ...apparently you are the only one to believe that Iran already has bought nukes. Your source is unreliable at the very best... Ted Turner and Sam Nunn! Really!

      March 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Reply
      • nard

        ...your NPI site has 184 pages of articles (NO original research) hashed together under Iran Nuclear Weapons...not one mention of your claim in the first 10 pages of articles...have to question that you even understood what your read, cause there is no suggestion anywhere of your claim...much less serious confirmation of it!

        March 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
      • JDavis

        The NTI site has a nuclear chronology on Iran that runs to 570 pages. Among them are reports of Iran buying nuclear weapons, such as this one:

        March 1993

        The Arms Control Reporter reports that by December 1991, Iran had imported four nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union, including a nuclear artillery shell, two nuclear warheads that could be launched on Scud missiles, and one nuclear weapon that could be delivered by a MiG-27 aircraft. The report says that fissile material was exported from Kazakhstan to Iran and the rest of the components were exported from other republics of the former Soviet Union through Turkmenistan. Although the codes to arm the warheads were not provided with the missiles, the report says two experts from Russia arrived to bypass arming codes.

        March 26, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
      • Jc


        It wouldn’t really be a good idea for anyone to provide a nuke to a country like Iran. If used, the material could be tested and more than likely traced back to the reactor that created them. I’m not saying that a Soviet state would be incapable of supplying a nuclear weapon. I’m just saying if they did and Iran used it, the country that supplied it would take 100% of the blame and retaliation.
        The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists May/June 1995 talks a bit about how testing is done. It also mentions some of the fissile material sourced from Russia that has been found in Europe. There is no credible mention as far as I am aware, of a completed nuclear weapon being sold to anyone.

        March 27, 2012 at 1:18 am |
      • JDavis

        I'm not advocating Jc, that anyone sell Iran nuclear weapons, only that it seems that people did. In the chaos of the Soviet breakup, money was to be made, and nuclear weapons could have been sold for hundreds of millions. As for isotopic testing pinpointing where the fissile material was manufactured, I think you're taking that movie–The Sum of All Fears–too seriously. At best, this would only lead back to Russia. As for a credible mention, the stories of Iran having the bomb are more credible than the estimates that Iran would soon have one of their own making, which, if you believed them, would have Iran in possession of homemade nukes ten years ago. As for the stories of Russian nukes in Iran, read this story at The Washington Times: "KAHLILI: Iran already has nuclear weapons."

        March 27, 2012 at 10:09 am |
  14. the wise

    Let's not shed any more blood for Israel, nor squander our treasure.

    Down with criminal Israel.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Reply
    • i8on

      The ugliest form of hatred is self-hatred, you Chomski bastard.

      March 26, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Reply
      • the wise

        Keep ur mouth running. I'll post ur private info.

        March 27, 2012 at 2:32 am |
  15. Kel_Rigg

    Because Iran's president has made several remarks about wiping Israel off the face of the earth!!!! I would have to say that IF Israel feels threatened?? They should have the RIGHT to strike first if Iran continues in the direction of building a NUKE. If someone goes to pull a gun on you? Are you going to just sit there or protect yourself?

    March 26, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • Adam

      Ahmadinejad is in his second term, he can't run again and at the moment he is getting battered by reformers and hard liners. Next elections are coming soon, he will be out of office. BTW He never said wipe Israel off the map, I'm not surprised that you have bought into that lie though, the media has hammered it into us.

      March 26, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
      • The War Criminal General Sherman

        I've always loved the '72 virgins' bullshit. Absolutely my favorite.

        March 26, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • JDavis

      And Khrushchev said they would bury us. Fortunately we were able to recognize rhetoric when we heard it and not rush off to become mass murderers and war criminals.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • nard

      Iran's president made remarks that were grossly mistranlated by the NYT which, by the way, was informed of but never published a retraction! Secondly, the president has ZERO control over the military. Khomeini does...he controls most everything. It was his remark that was mistranlated that Amadinejhad quoated...and he said the "regime that is in Jerusalem will vanish from the pages of time"...he did not say Iran would cause it's end, nor how it would happen. He said the essentially the same thing about the Soviet Union in the same speech.

      March 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Reply
  16. Adam

    Sanctions are doing nothing but hurting the Iranian people more, making the regime defensive and tighten their grip on power and pushing them to consider nukes. They aren't stupid. They see north korea has nukes and the world leaves them alone, all they have to do is test a missile to get what they want. The more pressure we give them the more they will be inclined to have a nuke. They clearly stated they are ready to make concessions but the US has to come to the bargaining table without making threats or putting sanctions. So far the west has put sanctions on Iran right before starting a new round of talks and sending the governing body of the IAEA to Iran instead of real inspectors. Iran has no legal obligation to show military sites or stop enriching uranium yet they did both of this in the early 2000s.

    March 26, 2012 at 11:36 am | Reply
    • Dave

      I couldn't have said it better myself,They also have us (USA) on two sides of them (iraq and afganistan) must make them a little nervous. They really are not trouble makers.I don't recall them ever starting a war,I think these are things to be considered.

      March 26, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Reply
  17. Iran

    Provides for the right of countries to engage in military action in self-defense, including collective self-defense (i.e. under an alliance) FOR IRAN TO RETALIATE WITH EQUAL FORCE IF ATTACKED.

    March 26, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
  18. Smith

    It is clear that without nukes Iran will be invaded, their men tortured and killed, their children if left alive would be traumatized for ever and their women will be raped. Iran's resources including their hydrocarbon reserves (gas and oil combined) which is the world's largest will be stolen and this will go on as it has been going on since the age of colonialism started many centuries ago. Iranians should be aware that their future generations depend on security provided by nuclear weapons.

    In 1990 only 8 countries in the world did not have privatized central banks. In the 1990's the US & it's allies produced a list of countries they labeled as “rogue states”. Compare these two lists:

    No private Central Bank In 1990:

    North Korea

    Labelled As Rogue States in 90's:

    North Korea

    Central Bank By 2012?

    Iraq – Yes, in 2004, US invasion
    Afghanistan – Yes, in 2002, US invasion
    Libya – Yes, Mar 19, 2011, NATO (US) air invasion
    Yugoslavia – Yes, NATO (US) invasion
    Iran Not yet!
    Syria Not yet!
    Cuba Not yet!
    North Korea Not yet!

    March 26, 2012 at 9:20 am | Reply
    • banks not tanks

      The reason these nations were not in the central bank is because of sanctions guy , they were not allowed in .
      When the people are under a ruler of the kind of Assad in Syria the country is not allowed in to the bank and by the way , there are many more nations not included in your list that are not in the Central Bank and many of them are in Africa and Asia .
      FACTS ARE FACTS and stories are unfounded thoughts.

      March 26, 2012 at 10:37 am | Reply
  19. michaelfury

    "How would the world know?"

    CNN will tell you what you need to know.

    March 26, 2012 at 7:27 am | Reply
  20. mipolitic

    FOLKS the first thing is , ignor everthing that is in this above CNN STORY .

    this is an election year , and obama is out of the country as the health care mess goes before the highest court in the land . there is nothing being done in south korea other than meeting with other world leaders maybe , to talk about what could possibly take place in the future in regards to nuke stock piles , and this meeting could have taking place in many other countries.

    while pres obama was in town in south korea rolled out their ICBM on to the pad , another slap in the face to usa and obama , and may i add that i do not know any other pres that would have happened to , because the north would have had that ICBM shoved up their rear side ways.

    the fact is obama is not seen as a voice of resolve nor is he respected by the bad guys , and his foreign policy has all but been his worst results of his term as pres , iran will not stop it nuke program and much like north korea the sanctions will never work and infact obama relaxed some of the sanctions in regards to iran selling oil to many europian nations.
    i think obama is waiting for iran to test a nuke so he can say it to late and he will once again dodge another foreign policy responsibilties .
    this re- election focus is making for a very ugly world , the thugs of the world are thriving and afghanistan is a total desaster now and the best thing that could happen there is to bring our folks home ! the suez and sinai is a very key location in the mid east and europe and the city in egypt there is quickly falling to terrorist groups and thugs of many different influences . in coming days the sinai and gaza will be influenced by iran to cause unrest with israel and possibly egypt . iran has been very supportive of assad in syria including sending assad arms and supplies but also troops .
    obama has sold a 120,000 tons of wheat to iran and another 300,000 tons are also going to be sold to iran , well some of this wheat will go to assad and thugs in syria and some will go to north korea since the food for nukes have failed .

    in short the thugs of the world are flexing their muscle freely , because of the lack of usa foreign policy and unless things change it is going to spiral in to a pit of conflicks in many places and the weak economy of europe will only deepen into unrest.
    this is only my view and in no way is this opinion supported by any internal knowledge other than that of watching events unfold on the world stage through many media sites .
    if iran is allowed to uptain a jihad nuke the entire mid east region will fall in to a dark pit of proxy attacks and wars. the signal things are not going well is when russia backs away from all talks with the west and that will occur after november if the future does not change and a voice of resolve fails to be established on the world stage. obama can do this to straighten things up BUT WILL HE ?? it sure as heck does not look that way to me.

    March 26, 2012 at 7:04 am | Reply
  21. haroldb1234

    where israel's uninspected 1000+ nukes already target the usa and the rest of the world and top usa military experts concluded in 2010 that israel did 9-11 articles like this one are ridiculous.

    tell israel to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and adopt a us-style constitution including palestinian rights and maybe the world will consider israel more than a pariah racist nation.

    March 26, 2012 at 6:22 am | Reply
    • AlexShch

      Then this will be the end of Israel.

      March 26, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Reply
    • AlexShch

      OK, haroldb1234, in the case of you are not getting it. When Benjamin Netanyahu goes to US Congress and tells them that "Jerusalem is undivided Capitol of Israel". He gets 29 standing ovations! 29 OK. This is what is about to be written into the Constitution of Israel. Plain and Simple. Not a US-style ... well to say it politely ...kind of ...american dream(R) (who knows what it is?) and ...kind of freedom(TM) (from whom?) for all.

      March 26, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Reply

    nuclear weapon should be ban period.

    March 26, 2012 at 4:25 am | Reply

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