Military resists calls to intervene in Syria
by Larry Shaughnessy
America is working to remove al-Assad's regime in Syria through diplomatic pressure, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said Wednesday, but he warned against U.S. military intervention.
"For us to act unilaterally would be a mistake," Panetta said in his opening statement to the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Syria. He noted there is no consensus among nations for intervention.
Panetta said military options are being considered, but he asked the senators to “recognize the limitation of military force, especially U.S. boots on the ground."
Sen. John McCain, the highest-ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee continued his impassioned crusade to get the U.S. military to use force to help the opposition fighters trying to overthrow Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. McCain said Wednesday that intervening and pushing out al-Assad would be "a geopolitical success of the first order."
"The United States has a clear national security interest in stopping the slaughter in Syria and forcing Assad to leave power. The end of the Assad regime could sever Hezbollah's lifeline to Iran, eliminate a longstanding threat to Israel, bolster Lebanon's sovereignty and independence, and remove a committed state sponsor of terrorism that has engaged in the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction," McCain said.
"How many additional civilian lives would have to be lost in order to convince you that the military measures of this kind that we are proposing are necessary," McCain asked Panetta. "How many more have to die? Ten thousand more? Twenty thousand more? How many more?"
Panetta responded that the United States is working to build an international consensus for action.
"What doesn't make sense it is to take unilateral action at this point," he said with equal emotion. "Before I recommend that we put our sons and daughters in uniform in harm's way, I have got to make very sure that we know what the mission is. I've got to make very sure we know whether we can achieve that mission, at what price and whether it will make matters better or worse."
The increase in pressure on the Pentagon to use force in Syria began Monday when McCain, a former Navy fighter pilot, called for the Department of Defense to begin air strikes in Syria.
Wednesday, for the first time, Defense Department leaders spelled out what military options the United States might use should diplomatic and economic pressure fail to end al-Assad's crackdown.
Those options, said Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "include humanitarian relief, (a) no-fly zone, maritime interdiction,(a) humanitarian corridor and limited aerial strikes, for example."
Dempsey revealed that the White House has asked the military to provide the president with a military plan.
"The president of the United States through the National Security Staff has asked us to begin ... the estimate of the situation," Dempsey said. That estimate, he explained, will include looking at potential missions, the capabilities of the enemy, and U.S. military assets that are available.
The military has discussed those options with the president and his national security staff, Panetta said.
Dempsey said he is confident the United States could carry out military missions in Syria.
"We're extraordinarily capable. And we can do just about anything we're asked to do," he said. But he made clear that Syria will not be a repeat of the recent operations in Libya.
"They have approximately five times more sophisticated air defense systems than existed in Libya covering one-fifth of the terrain," he said. "All of their defenses are arrayed on their western border, which is their population center. So five times the air defense of Libya, covering one-fifth of the terrain."
Dempsey and Panetta raised the concern that U.S. military action could make matters inside Syria and the entire region worse.
"There is every possibility of a civil war, and a direct outside intervention in these conditions not only would not prevent that, but could make it worse," Panetta said.
One problem is Syria's substantial chemical and biological weapons stockpile. Dempsey said the stockpile is on a magnitude of "a hundred times more than we experienced in Libya."
But Panetta returned again to the issue of international support for use of force in Syria.
"There is no simple solution here," he said. "The reasons for the differences between our approach with Libya and the current approach to Syria are clear.
Although there has been widespread support in the Security Council and the Arab League for military intervention in Libya, no such consensus currently exists with regards to Syria. For us to act unilaterally would be a mistake."
That issue got Panetta in a tight spot when he was being questioned by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama.
"We spend our time," Sessions said, "worrying about the U.N., the Arab League, NATO, and too little time, in my opinion, worrying about the elected representatives of the United States. As you go forward, will you consult with the United States Congress?"
Panetta replied, "You know, again, our goal would be to seek international permission. And we would come to the Congress and inform you and determine how best to approach this."
Sessions latched on to Panetta's use of the word "permission," saying, "Well, I'm troubled by that. I think that it does weaken the ability of the United States to lead."
He went on to say, "I do think, ultimately, you need the legal authority from the United States of America, not from any other extra-territorial group that might assemble."
Sen. Carl Levin, the chairman of the committee, tried to help out Panetta: "If you're seeking international coalition, having that kind of international legal basis will help. I think that's what you're trying to say."
"That's what I am trying to say," Panetta responded.
McCain has made an issue of those who urge caution in Syria because the United States might end up helping opposition groups who are not friendly to the America.
"I reject the argument that we, quote, 'don't know who they are,'" he said. "We spend a lot of money on defense and we spend a lot of money on intelligence.
We should know who these people are. And it would be easy enough to find out."
But Dempsey said it is not that simple, noting there are "approximately 100 groups that we have identified as part of the opposition."
"We are not suggesting that part of al Qaeda that has made its way to Syria, has aligned itself or is in bed with the opposition," the general said. "But they are there to exploit it. And that is a factor that we have to consider."
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McCain is always calling for America to bomb some country or another, or sell weapons......he is one of the arcitects of the NDAA.......McCain is a NAZI!!!
Has anyone checked our economy lately? We cannot afford these endless wars. Let's send in the diplomats and shut down the military industrial complex that has sucked -up taxpayer dollars since WWII. Let's give peace a chance.
THANK you!
John McCain is senile, he should be retired to one of his many homes. Obama is exactly right to not go it alone, no more wars!
I will never forgive him for inflicting Sarah Palin on America. He took one look at that bush league Playmate turned politician, licked his chops & now years later she is still hanging around with her neo Fascist ideas hanging out.
no more wars for the liars in israel. netanyahoo is a liar!
Theres a price to be paid our for doing nothing as well, if syria doesnt change it still has a destabilising effect on lebenon, strengthens iran and weakens israel. Also if the rebels are able to create a civil war without the west it will turn into stalemate and could potentially become a failed state, and that region does not need a failed state, especially close to israel.
It might also be worth tying syria to the iranian nuclear talks, e.g. we wont move against your ally asad but your gonna have to start making progess on the nuclear talks. Iran's, infact all arab military planning against israel has been on a multi-front basis, with syria a key part of that strategy, the loss of equilbrium here as well as the current build up of pressure could make iran believe they have no choice but build the bomb inorder to maintain some level of parity with israel, the west might get something for keeping the conventional check alive.
Also a weakened Syria dramatically increases the role of turkey in the middle east we better make sure thats something we wont.
my point is this is extremely complex and the balance of power in the middle east is precariously balanced, any change in syria, will affect the whole region.
As a country, it is important that we do what is right, and not inject ourselves into every military conflict that arises. How long do you think we could continue to do this and survive as a country both economically and socially? This policy of constant war is dividing our country, and could cause internal conflicts here. Is that what you want?
It is time for the warmongers like John McCain to quit misrepresenting the will of the American people and resign from public office. Let's take our country back, and make our decisions on going to war with the utmost consideration for the lives of the Americans we will be putting at risk.
We don't care! Just do what our boys Obama and McCain says. We zionist run America. We don't care if you go bust.
What matters is israel. Long live israel. As long as you keep fighting our wars and dying so our good zionist boys and girls can be safe then all is well. Plus keep the money coming, too. We like spending your hard-earned tax dollars.
We like our American slaves to be stupid.
So just do what we tell you to do.
Stay in debt, watch meaningless television and eat poison foods we give you.
new world order/Rothchilds owns you dumb Americans.
You are such a tough guy, talking shit to people online, but that’s all you will ever be is a SHIT TALKER!
Might be a good time for the USA to start its own foreign legion or better yet, legalize mercenaries. Then we won't have to worry about "our sons and daughters" running off to fight the war we started and we can do it all by proxy.
The whole thing is not our fight. America needs another period of isolationism to fix the brokedick situation on the homefront.. I couldn't care less who's nuking or gassing whom in the Middle East or Africa. We have no dog in this fight unless and until our own soil is attacked and then God and his Only Begotten Son have mercy on them, because we sure as heck won't!
Hear, hear!
We need to rid ourselves from dependence on foreign oil. Without this all our wealth will flow right into the pockets of Muslims who hate US & will do anything to destroy US no matter what they say. This will mean massive research into renewable energy. No way to avoid this no matter what those lame brain Republicans say.
Ok call me stupid! What has Rothchild got to do with Israel? Why is the US and Israel so tight?
@netanyaho. Please do this planet a favor and go wrap your lips around a shotgun barrel and pull the trigger. People like you are a cancer to this already sick world
How about we don't get involved at all? When will somebody else step up to the plate and police the world? Why is it always us? We get our sticky little fingers into every conflict and we get rewarded with resentment. Time to start minding our own business until our allies ask us to band together with them and do something.
No, no, no. McCain is feeling the effects of that Alzheimer's agian.
The Syrian opposition is headed by the Musloim Brotherhood. Handing them the Syrian government would be a lot worse than handing them the government of Egypt... Oh, wait, it wouldn't. And we did that last year. And Libya. And Tunisia. And Morooco.
Once Syria is gone, Saudi Arabia's oil fields will be next.
"For us to act unilaterally would be a mistake," Panetta said
For us to act AT ALL would be the mistake, Mr. Panetta. I thought the Republican party had the market cornered for neocons....guess I was wrong.
Not only should the U.S. not act alone, the U.S. should not act at all.
And to appear before Congress to mandate people to pay $3000 for other people sex is what .
So what were the credentials to solicit a fraud before Congress ?
What are we going to do? Remove one dictator so we can put another in his place? Some loser like the mayor of kabul that will pilfer the Syrian treasury and ship the money to his family in Europe?
"For us to act unilaterally would be a mistake,"
When it comes to Syria, the United States should not act. Let Russia and China be the quarterback on this one. They are al-Assad's drinking buddies. STAY THE HECK OUT OF IT FOR A CHANGE
Russia and China have no significant incentive to see any regime change in Syria which does significant business with both countries. Does Russia or China care if Israel exists? Not really so they would not be a substitute "quarterback" for our team by any possible measure. Nice try but that solution does not exist.
Looks like Panetta has the right approach to me and some in Congress still don't get it. The USA is not the military for the world, our guys deserve a break, and 2 wars and big buckaroos spent on them is enough. Time for the US to step back and let the rest of the world act. I feel for the people of Syria, but Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other have the ability to step in and help the people there, especially since Iran is propping up Assad. They should be providing weapons and logistical support.
Another way to look at it is to offer our military services to solve this problem for a price. Saudi Arabia and others can retain us to take care of business that does not cost us a dime. That certainly worked when the Saudis and Kuwait essentially underwrote our costs in the first Gulf War.
I have a totally different opinion on whether or not Iran should have nuclear weapons. Absolutely yes. They can not launch them very far and any damage the do will be localized. Perfect. We get to rid ourselves of all our pests. And you can't really hurt oil 1000 feet underground either. Let them stir the pot. Perfect. Launch'm.
No one is seriously concerned that Iran, if they had nukes, would launch them at others because they are acutely aware that if they did, their country would vanish within an hour. The issue with Iran is their use of "proxies" such as Hesbollah and Hamas to do their dirty work for them. As such, no chance we can allow Iran to have nukes.
As for Syria, the US is not the only country that benefits from regime change. As such, why should we, again, shoulder the lion's share of the cost to take them out? With the US currently spending 4 BILLION more PER DAY than it gets in revenue, how are we going to pay the cost to wade into another war? Show me the money first as to where it will come from to pay the cost and then I might be more receptive to another war and no chance before that.
Your attempts at zionist propaganda is going to end up endangering you.
So keep it up.
I say, let'm have them and launch them. Then we do nothing what so ever. Who cares. It will will benefit us and it doesn't require anything on our part.
Hezbollah and Hamas aren't MY enemies. And just who is going to kill everyone in Iran ?
Gotta love Jeff Sessions. Basically he says 'who gives a #$&% what the rest of the world thinks. we are America and we can decide the fate of everyone because we have the most bombs.' I bet his favorite move is Team America, World Police: America F yeah! Freedom is the ONLY way.
Sessions you are pathetic.
because of such people,american travellers claim to be canadians,to avoid lynch.
Dirka Dirka Mohammad jihad!
i can dirka dirka your mama,when plumber stops dirka-dirking her.
there is a lot of misconceptions here,americans talk much without knowing facts on the terrain.iran has 73 million people and can easily mobilize 5 million fighters.there are 48 american bases in the middle east and iran has 165.000 rockets that can reach those bases(more than 3.000 per base).iran has millions of shoulder fired launchers from stinger-like rockets to rpg.also,each ak-47 can be converted into rpg launcher in less than 10 seconds(replacing the tip and opening the chamber for gases after firing).shias,and many sunnis will certainly attack americans in the middle east,europe and elserwhere.hezbollah and hammas will attack israel,syrians too.if israeli defenses are softened at any portion of israel's border,arabs will pour into israel by millions.are muslim brotherhood in egypt and islamists in turkey sit down and do nothing?if you are bogged down in the middle east,will chine take an advantage and finish taiwan and south korea?american media is full of these "journalists",especially female,that do not think of anything but how to promote their own stupidity.obama understands how easily the things can go down the hill.but,he is surrounded by a bunch of imbe...cils,especially republican.if you start these wars(syria,iran),mark my words,you will be very sorry.but,then,it will be too late.
You are right on! Iran is FAR, FAR more potent than that idiot Saddam Hussein in Iraq ever was. He had nothing to back up his foolish talk. No navy, no air force, no missiles, no anti-aircraft equipment, some old Russian tanks, no "boots on the ground" (the so-called "Republican Guard" turned and ran almost immediately as soon as the thing started) He was never any kind of threat to the United States, and I just cannot see how anyone ever thought that he was. It was like shooting fish in a barrel, but still look how long it took to reach some point of stability.
But that was then, and this is now. Iran is a whole different kettle of fish. Stay away from them. Let the U.N. deal with it.
Your lack of undertanding of the military situation is staggering. A full scale war with Iran would be a one sided trouncing. It would play directly to America's greatest capability, conventional force on force warfare. A gronud occupation of Iran would be extremely problematic, but this is irrelevant, because in the proposed situation, a ground occupation would be unneeded.
In a conventional war against Iran, the US would only need to cause enough damage to the Iranian military structure to force their government to accept a treaty. Iranian rockets might be able to reach out an touch some Mid East bases but they would have to get past advanced US missle defense systems and would have to get the mideast countries which host those bases to accept Iranian strikes against targets within their borders.
Iran's air assets do not pose any significant challenge to the US aerial arsenal. Between the F-22, US ballistic missiles, and advanced stealth missile submarines, the US can hit targets in Iran continuously without any realistic ability for Iran to defend against it.
The number of ground troops is irrelevant, since A. the US would be aiming to destroy the Iranian military capability, not occupy the country, and B. Iranian ground forces would be severely lmited after the loss of their air, armor and naval equipment.
Its hilarious that you even referenced their shoulder fired weapons. Seriously? Do you really think a long range, supersonic, ultra maneuverable, high altitude aircraft is threatened by a guy with a stinger missile?
And before you even consider referencing Iraq, once again, there is a difference between an occupation and a force on force war. Iran's military capability is hopelessly outmatched.
If you had any concept of how military order of battle actually works you would have no illusions about this.
In your fantasy world.
Sounds like a great "made for TV movie." David Caruso can be the CIA hitman that shoots 50 muslims with one clip. Time Warner can sponsor it and show the same commerical every 7.5 minutes.
United States won’t have to get involved with Iran because Israel will take care of Iran before we get there. Yes, United States has been at was for sometime now, but our military is at time best because we have experience in fighting within Middle East. United States produces world’s best soldiers, which is why we always finish our mission. So, watch what you say because one day you might see a lot of red, white, and blue telling you what to do.
Hooah !
If the US intervenes in Syria, it will be greatly wounded. If it intervenes in Iran, the US will be defeated. The US military at this time is weak from being brought to its knees in Iraq, and defeated in Afghanistan
That's funny...Try some of these quotes:
"because we will behead you all"
"Let the American infidels bask in their illusion"
"I triple guarantee you, there are no American soldiers in Baghdad."
Britain "is not worth an old shoe"
"we have given them a sour taste"
"blood-sucking bastards"
Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."
"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
Delusion alert!
The leaders of the middle east won't do anything because they are afraid it could happen to them.
All of this banter reminds me of the former Iraqi Information minister and his funny quotes...On the news of approaching coalition forces:
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings – as usual – we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"I blame Al-Jazeera – they are marketing for the Americans!"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"
"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"
and divided,unloyal,tennis shoes clad iraqis have kicked you out of their country.60% of that iraq is now loyal to iran.
If the people of this country wanted John McCain to have the power to commit troops to war, we would have elected him President. The poor judgment he showed when choosing his running mate proved he lacks the
wisdom to be our Commander-in-Chief. There are tragedies and atrocities being committed all the time in many parts of the world in which our leaders see no need to intervene. Let Syria be one of them.
I agree 100%
The US is a paper tiger. Islamic warriors in Iraq and Afghanistan have left the US bleeding and ready to topple. If the US is foolish enough to attack Syria, then i'm betting that any action against Iran will lead to a destructive defeat. The US is military is vastly overrated. In the Middle East Iran is the dominant power.
I recall Monty Python and the Holy Grail.... "It's only a flesh wound."
america is a vulture,it is attacking the weak and the divided.iran is neither.my biggest wish is that pentagon sends ground forces into iran.stupid and arrogant thugs need to burry their sons and learn to work for money.
Tariq, quit having sex with camels.
retiredvet,i will send him your mama,as soon as i finish banging her.
NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.. Israel is trying to get us to fight their wars (and pay for them), now we are asking about syria... how about we mind our own business. We are NOT the worlds police force. We spend money we don't have the precious lives of our young are taken or destroyed... why? so some GOP politican can lobby for more money for the military industrial complex... are you kidding. It is Time for Israel to do it's own dirty work and stand up for itself and take it's tin cup to Europe or somewhere else. it's time that the UN get a real pair or for other nations to step in and doing something in these places. IT IS NOT part of our charter to be a nation builder or problem fixer. Syria does NOT pose any threat to the US our military is for our defense not for backing Israel plan to destory anybody who calls them bad names nor be the Texas rangers out for the bad guys. Stop all these drum beats to crazy wars. Clinton went into Bosina... how did that work out... Ok. we don't have to talk about Viet Nam, Iraq etc. Time for us to defend and that is it....
anti_zionist
One more comment like that and you'll be on Santa's 'naughty list'.
Israel, along with evangelical Christianity, is the great enemy.
Let's organize against zionism.
Send inquests to thepheonixrising22@gmail.com, if you want to ACT.
WARNING: Don't respond to any links on cnn – they'll try to id your ip address.
But, who cares. fuk off zionists new world order.
Payback is coming.
Come on WW3 baby!
anti_zionist
Hey – What about the Mormon's, Catholics, Hindus, Shintoist's Maoists, etc etc. Don't forget to blame everyone else...you don't want to miss anyone.
Thanks for reminding me.
"For us to act unilaterally would be a mistake"
The Arab League needs to get a pair and resolve this issue.
Sure glad Rumsfeld is gone or we would already be at war would have been better if McCain would have gone with Rumsfeld one less war monger.
Good point!
I got a great idea. Why doesn't the Arab league ask the US directly for military assistance and offer to pay for it? When they pay, we turn around and outsource the job to Israel so they can have practice for their invasion Iran.
It will be a win win situation. The Arabs will owe as one. We make some quick cash. No risk to US soldiers. We help Israel take care of a hated enemy. We collect on our investment in Israel. We help Israel get ready for Iran.
You have it wrong joey . . . we REAL American Patriots hate you and israel.
I like Jole idea.
I agree with Senator McCain that there needs to be a military intervention here before any more people are slaughtered, but also agree with Sec. Panetta that we should not go it alone. I would hope that a response similar to what was done in Libya is possible.
Nauticalboy is a zionist propagandist.
She is opposed to Americans not wanting to fight israel's battles.
She wants American armed forces to die for the zionists – and why not, they think we are their slaves.
I say we bomb the zionists today – kill all of them.
Why don't we just stamp numbers on their arms and gas them too?
Sounds like a good idea – seems that I've heard it before – oh yeah, all the zionist politicans spout the same message toward Arabs.
But I would rather see something like that happen to the devil people zionists.
They deserve it more than anybody.
Sure, it's in us to be like them, might as well put it to work on them zionists – kill every one of them DEAD!!!!
What would you rather have – the death of 2.1 million fake jews in racist apartheid israel or 3.5 billion people throughout the world die in a nuclear exchange – and for what? So a bunch of zionist thug/invader from nasty khazar land steal Arab lands while killing innocent women and children with guns, tanks, jets given to them by our traitor U.S. political leaders who are bribed by AIPAC?????
I say kill all the zionists – and if not, then COME ON WW3 BABY! in the end israel will be nuked off the planet.
However, if the invaders from khazarland want to talk peace then they will have to shit-can zionism and bibi and bibi and his racist regime must all die by handing for crimes against humanity.
Only then, will there be peace or a chance of peace. But hey, if some stickin zionist killed by children I would want him or her dead. It is up to the rightful owners of Palestine to decide it, not the zionist in America to decide.
you are on your own here.after the first rockets hit london and paris,the french and brits will be out.assad will kill all who listen to cia/mossad,and iran,lebanon,russia,china and some others will help him.this is the beginning of a showdown between russia/china and america.and you have here 100 million of foreigners like me,who you have spitted on for years and who will not help you.
Are you saying America spits on foreigners? The last I checked, "undocumented Americans" receive many benefits. Give me an example how we spit on them.
McCain is right-wing and absolutely right on the mark. We could take Syria on our lunch break using our B team with last years ordinance. In fact, I'm pretty sure we can make it a "Two for the price of one" deal by making a round-robbin pass through Natanz.
Tom, isn't your zionist pump gonna be mad, that your not sucking a Jew cokk somewhere?
Die zionist.
The zionists are our enemy.
Don't believe zionist lies.
Go pick up a rifle and volunteer to go.
was your mom an alcoholic, nauticalboy?
Keep your disgusting words to yourself.
Why are you not beating the drums for dufur then? I'll tell you why... you want US boots on the ground to fight Israel's war... you are most likly one the paid people to be on this board posting propaganda...... send your kids... not ours.
I think the correct course of action is to ignore Syria.....at least until the Arab league comes begging to the US to help and offers to pay for any and all expenses. Hell they got hundreds of billions, why should we spend when we should not and they not when they should?
The US Administration is correct in being cautious. With over 100 so-called rebel groups and a whole lot of salafist infiltrators funded by the GCC, Al Qaeda infiltrators & scouts, opportunistic Syrian exiles all on the ground it's a potent mix. Many of those would love to get hold of some heavy weaponry from Syrian military depots and in the case of Al Qaeda, biological and chemical weapons from secure storage. Those storagefacilities become available to any of the rebels once the Syrian military is removed from an area.
KONY 2012
John McCain and all you other hawks: why the hell is it America's problem what goes on in Syria. Let Turkey and Saudi Arabia and a coalition of Arab Nations go in and police it. Give our soldiers and our budget a rest!!!
Why is John Mccain so passionate about Syria's crackdown, and the call for U.S. sons and daughters to be sent to ANOTHER foreign war, but yet fails to call the same attention to other human rights cases that could use intervention? I don't hear him calling for boots on the ground in Uganda where the LRA is running amok, or Somalia, where there are countless atrocities being committed. At least if he called on us to intervene in all of the above, I would at least respect him for his consistency, if not his opinion. Instead he only wants us to go to war with who is politically expedient for him.
Right on Marine!
The US just can't WAIT for another war. It's the national hobby!
the news is,confirmed by pentagon,that iranians have chinese missiles capable of reaching alaska.i think that china and russia have prepared the trap for americans in iran,and that you guys will burn your fingers in iran.after that china/russia are going to strangle you.my advice is:arrest all warmongers and deliever them to talibans for trial.
"iranians have chinese missiles capable of reaching alaska."
Sarah Palin needs to stay indoors, away from the windows.
What are US vital national interests? At the conservative end of the spectrum, it’s threats to national security, freedom of navigation on the seas, access to vital resources. At the liberal end of the spectrum, since they disdain nationalism, it’s do-gooder feel good crap like Clinton’s policy of aggressive moral interventionism: Feeding Somalians, stopping mean Serbs killing Bosniacs or Kosovar ethnic Albanians, or fixing the perpetually broken Haiti.
What are US vital national interests in Syria? Are they strategically situated? Do they have resources we need? Are they an historical ally? No, no, no. Yes, Shiite Assad is a destabilizing tool of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Council and a Hezbollah facilitator, but that’s not a US problem.
Except that Obama needs Jew votes and campaign contributions and cheap gas prices to win his re election. So what deals did he make with Netanyahu in their closed-door meeting?
DoD doesn’t make its own missions. It does what the civilian leadership tells it to do, good missions or stupid missions.
Like all presidents, Obama has discovered that all the Title 5 unionized bureaucrat parts of his government do not work. That includes the inept Department of State led by Hillary Clinton which has completely mishandled the Arab Spring enabling America-hating Islamists to expand their reach. On her behalf, she’s not quite so dumb as Madeleine Albright was.
The only part of the US federal government that actually works is the culturally conservative merit-based DoD. And like all presidents, when Obama wants something done, he turns to the DoD. But there was a UN Security Council Resolution for Libya. There’s no authority for Syria. Hence the suspense: What deals were struck with the Jews?
can wee all get along?....listen to the king
Butter ball....nobody likes you.
Kill yourself.
I believe world peace is possible if all the leaders of the free world and all the dictators of the world would just try to curb their ego and pride and just come together and have dialogue! The biggest problem in trying to improve relations around the world has to do with our reluctance to communicate. Who would have thought that the Berling Wall would have come tumbling down! During the 2008 presidential primaries, Senator Clinton said we shouldn't talk to our enemies while Senator Obama said we should! So what is wrong with us talking with Mr. Adminajed or Mr. Asad? Or even with Mr. Jung Un? And what if direct dialogue is what is needed to improve relations and helped to bring about global stability and peace? Is that a bad thing?
Reminds me of a story about a big mean looking kid in the neighborhood who all the other kids were afraid of! Then one day the baseball the other kids were playing with fell into the yard of the big scary kid! Well, all the kids were terrified to enter the yeard to retrieve the ball...that is except a tiny little kid who didn't know what all the fuss was all about! Then when the little kid walked into the yard of the big mean kid, the big mean kid handed the little kid the ball and then he said to the little kid with a smile, how come you'll don't let me play? Then all of a sudden, the big mean kid that all the little kids were afraid of turned out to be the nicest kid in the entire neighborhood! By the way, I learned that North korea's kid President Jung IL is a big fan of Daffy Duck! Well, I'm too and I'm all grown up!
Dude! You seriously need to get laid....
Hey butter ball, how many idf soldiers does it take to kill an Arab baby?
in the battle for baba amr,legal syrian army has captured more than 700 western and arab mercenaries,among them 13 regular french army special forces.cia,mossad,blackwater,french,saudis and qataries are helping al-qaida fighters to stir unrest in syria,in order to weaken iran.read rt.com news,also dailystar.com.
Ok daffy, this isnt disney, the people you are trying to reason with are out for the total annihilation of the US. 1) Arabs dont forget stuff, unlike the american people who cant remember what the had for breakfast. 2) They have stated multiple times, that they are going to destroy Isreal and the US. I believe that when they have the means to do so, they will. It would be foolish to wait.
If we are to put boots to ground on Syria, Congress needs to drop the military cuts so we can do it and do it well, not have perfectly qualified people blocked from reenlisting because they are not a E-6 or higher just so they can meet the congressional budget cuts.
coyote why don't you go put your boots on the ground. Let's see you do some dying.
Don't need boots on the ground. That is certainly not what McCain is suggesting. Panetta is just a "yes" man for Obama and that is a scary scenario for the Head of Defense.
Since the GOP is so gung ho to jump into another unfunded war, why don't they have their wealthy minions who have benefited from 10 years of "temporary" tax breaks foot the bill? They can put their money where their big mouths are.
Wait until Assad uses the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam stashed in Syria before we arrived in Iraq.
Uh?? Is this you GORGE? DAMNNN HOW MANY TIME MUST I TELL YOU THAT THERES NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!...NOW GO AND PLAY WITH CHANEY....
I doubt Saddam stashed his WMD's in Syria. The Assad family have been long time foes of Saddam.
Those WMD's are in Crawford Ranch!
The USA NEEDS TO STOP INTERFERING. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE USA. IF COUNTRIES WANT OUR HELP THEY PAY US TRILLIONS OF MONEY UP FRONT. THE USA NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT THE USA ONLY. WE HELPED IRAQ, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE THIER OIL OR GET PAID. SCREW THE ARABS. WE NEED OUR FACTORIES BACK. WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO PUT CHINA OUT OF WORK. WE NEED TO FIGHT THESE CORPORATIONS. WE NEED OUR TROOPS TO STAY HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES. REPUBLICANS ALWAYS WANT WARS. IT HAS TO END. HOW MANY MORE AMERICAN SOLDIERS NEED TO DIE BEFORE THE USA WAKES UP. SYRIA HAS A DICTATOR. LET THEM FIGHT THEIR OWN WAR. THE REST OF THE WORLD TOO. LET ISRIAL LAUNCH A WAR OM IRAN. USA I SAY DO NOT INVADE ANYMORE COUNTRIES. LET THE USA DEFEND THE USA. NO MORE OTHER COUNTRIES
True. They hates us no matter what.
Note to all chickenhawks,
Don't send my friends or any of my family members to die on foreign soil because we KNOW what's right. What do you think would have happened if when we had our civil war, a foreign nation had stepped in and stopped the North from retaking the south?
Ask yourself this simple question....post your answer here.
Agreed AL. I don't want my niece or nephew or billions of our dollars for yet another war
War-mongers and chickenhawks are the absolute dregs of society.
I know...don't you just hate Republicans.
Oh, I don't necessarily hate Republicans, its just those fucking neocons ard warvangelicals who are truly evil.
I hate the zionist pulling all the strings.
We should intervene to save a bunch of people who were dancing in the streets on 9/11/01? Really?
Sure. After all, we contributed in the re-building of Germany & Japan.
I think you are confused between Syria and Israel, we are talking about Syria and the 5 dancing Israelis who celebrated 9/11 are from Israel not Syria
Did John McCain seriously invoke the term Weapons of Mass Destruction? Sounds like Bush all over again! Let's see, if they don't do what we say NOW...bomb them! There is a reason McCain is not president and why he is an aging old coot that needs to go to one of his 5 homes and live out his life........
George Washington Warned Us To Avoid Getting Into Foreign Entanglements
as for that screen name, might I point out a things?
1. Such a statement was made in a time when a New America was not large, rich or strong enough so survive involvement in foreign affairs. This has not been the case for over half a century.
2. America's current status as a world power would NEVER have been achieved had we followed said advice (no annexation of Texas/ California, No Panama Canal, no limitation of Soviet Sphere of influence leading to an expanse of communism that would prevent US ascension as an economic power, No allied victory in WWII (before military intervention the sale of arms is the only thing that kept the UK in the fight, preventing Germany from then turning its full attention to overtaking Russia.)
3. Also mind you, American military and arms sales involvement in WWII is the sole reason we became the 20th century power we did.
And here we are - still a 20th century power in the 21st century.
JRH: The U.S. Constitution was created in another time. Does that make it irrelevant today?
One more thing: look at my thumb . . . gee, you're dumb.
what are you, an idiot?
Half a century ago was 1962...TWO (2) centuries after George Washington's time when world powers were 3 weeks away via boat ride.
The US does not need to get involved in Syria.
Israel is already trying to drag us into a war with Iran.
For their own benefit.
We need to just walk away..
Let them fight it out.
“We have NO friends in the Middle East”
Correct – no more war!!
I sense a massive and devastating earthquake is about to decimate the entire Middle East! The most powerful and destructive earthquake yet on record! And when its all over, there are no casualties! Absolutely no casualties whatsoever! The only casualties...all the weapons in Israel and Iran and all across the Middle East and all the devices used for suicide bombing and wars are consumed! And the end result, peace finally comes to the Middle East!
Whatever it is you happen to be on – I want some.
Well, I know that's impossible but it sure would be a miracle! And its what the world really needs now...world peace!
Mushrooms?...i want some too
buddy i sense you need to get a life and some help!
Crazy fool!
If Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is not going to request a letter or public statement from Assad as to his intentions to stay or relinquist power, I believe its time for UN Ambassador Susan Rice to send Mr. Assad a letter demanding his full intentions. We have set sanctions and we have condemned his brutal crackdown to no avail! Its time to change the game plan or strategy and force him to start talking to the West. Then he may do like Yemen's President Saleh and say I had enough!
Clinton dont miss around! I love that woman!
Senator Carl Levin said that we need an internaltional "legal basis". That means we are going to go it alone, again. The killing is really getting to me. All dictators have to go, but the killing is tough to take. I guess we can expect our lone fly overs to begin at anytime.
This site has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism. Get over yourselves and move on to another site.
Go it alone.....that is insane. Syria is not Iraq or Afghanistan it is a country who along with those religious zealots in Iran have been the primary source of money of Muslim terrorist groups around the globe. and if we go it alone you can bet that Iran will have troops in Syria. The Iranian government already has special ops troops operating in Syria helping keep Assad in power. Add that gas prices will sky rocket if we go it alone because of the Republicans lack of helping get a national energy policy...........the democrats aren't blameless in that but the republicans have had 30 years to do it.
I just don't know why people keep saying if we go into Syria, Iran would fight us! That is just absurd! During the first Gulf war with Iraq and again in 2003, there were Russian logistic and military workers assisting Iraq with its military hardware and oil refinery but when we were about to invade, Russia pulled out of Iraq and did not interfere despite being a decade long trade partner and ally with Iraq. I believe Iran has its own internal problems to worry about!
NO MORE WAR
?????
Fuuuuu babe bitttttchhhh .....go jews and the usa anal dill hole
Russia and China should have stayed out of this. Now there is no way they can back track their position, when in their own countries they risk the upsrising of their own people.
If the jew are so ritch,we need to start makeing them pay for all these wars damitttt!im fine for destroying Iran,and syria,but we need to get some money from these jews....
first learn to write and not make your words make you sounds like racial red neck. Then responded with an apportiate comment
you sound like a drunk white raciest.......if the other Arab countries had any balls they would take care Syria and Iran rather than being bullied by them.
@ I CANT BELEIVE ITS NOT BUTTER- first off , learn how to spell because you really look ignorant and dont think anyone can take you serious. Come on, do you really think before you post?
Has anyone noticed the difference in how Assad has dealth with the Western media as opposed to the way Ghadaffi did? During the Libyan crisis, Ghadaffi was very animated, flambouyant and vocal in racheting up his rhetoric and condemining the West for trying to over throw his regime. On the other hand, Asad has maintained total silence! Perhaps Assad believes if he remains silent, the West would just go away and he'd no longer face condemnation. I believe its time the UN demands a public statement or letter from him stating his full intentions, whether they are to relinquish power or fight to the death as Moammar Ghadaffi! Then we'd truly know for sure where he really stand and what are his intentions!
His intensions are to TAKE OVER THE WORLD pinky
when a dictator starts killing his own children, it's time to act. if we don't, we're no better than them. use HIS money to pay for it.
People tire quickly of your retarded, an ineffectual comments.
In other words, your a fukking idiot
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
you're an idiot!
TOM- we would be in every country in the world if we did what you are saying to do. We are not the WORLD police, even though it seems that way at times. So, you are saying because we dont intervene we are just as guilty, YOU ARE IGNORANT AND RETARDED. PLEASE TO NOT REPRODUCE. IGNORANCE IS BLISS HAH?
I agree! BOMB ASSAD TO SMITHEREENS!!
Kiss my balls anti zionist...buter in your butt hooole and here we go,chocolate star
Lol, faggatrons like you should stay home...
Butter ball bitch, you don't have any balls.
idf baby-killing fags are pp suckers.
Bless you babe ruth.
And down with Israel.
Assad is a medical doctor.....educated. Ghadaffy was an uneducated tyrant.
yes a MD that took a oath to do no harm...guess he had his fingers crossed.....then again they say that Hitler painted. and we know how stable he was.
Stalin almost became a priest.
well yes who is keeping his head down.....guess he doesn't want a smart bomb to drop in and visit him...
I hate zionism
But you love(d) hot dogs 'n' whores.
Only zionist whores they can suck the skin off a hot dog.
Thank goodness McCain is not our President. It's hard to imagine anything more scary than another Bush "lite" administration. McCain's recent rhetoric suggests that had he been elected he would have made those disastrous 8 years of the Bush "lite" administration look almost tolerable.
What the heck, we have bushobama.
McCain's rhetoric is always scary.
If Mc was president we wouldn't be dealing with this mess who just nuke them and say thank you very much
Ugh...some of you people are dolts. Obama is every bit as bad as Bush. He's increased troops in Afganistan. He started an illegal war in Lybia based on threats of genocide. At least Bush responded to real genocide that took place on the Kurds in Iraq.
*** He started an illegal war in Lybia based on threats of genocide.
Wrong, it was a NATO mission and it was UN approved.
At least Bush responded to real genocide that took place on the Kurds in Iraq.
Yup, in 1980, with chemicals sold to Saddam by Rumsfeld.
Its clear you hate Obama, but you dont need to lie.
Well mccain you lost to obama your not the presidnt you dont get to make ANY decisions! Thats great to hear what you would do but all you CAN do is talk just like the rest of us
Macain is way to dopppped up on viagra...geeees....
Did McCain say how he'd pay for this new war with Syria? Oh well, it makes me cringe to hear a republican talk about another country possesing weapons of mass destruction. I can't believe he even threw that in given that we just got out of the last "weapons of mass destruction" hunt.
assad can pay for it
Idiot.
Wait until they find out they are supporting our enemies, the J'hadis. The gallows builders should be back in business. Panetta should have just said, "The US should not act". The US govt is on the wrong side of this, and the "activists" are lying about it all.
Panetta: "The US Should Not Act Alone"
Translation: "My boss, the clueless Obama, is unable to make a strategic decision and would like to ride this out until after the election. In the meantime, please do not look to the US for any form of world leadership."
Why can we just leave tha nnnngggg alone?....leavemmm alone!..lol
Translation: God, I'm glad Obama is President and not you...tea bagger trash talker.
You mean the 'leadership' that was responsible for the armed invasions of sovereign states and indiscriminate slaughter of civilians?
Obama knows how to lead? Wow when that happen.....then again the president does have a love of wacking the bad guys when you least expected....and he started with the pirates and then OK'd the hit on what was his name again...he sleeps with the fishes now......Don't agree with Obama but he more likely to send a nuke in response.
War Pig.
iraq – no longer burning american flags
libya – total nutjob removed from power
afghanistan – no al quida training camps there anymore
pakistan – got the freak osama
nazi germany – hitler wont be burning anymore kids
japan – their world domination aspirations are over
thankyou very very much u.s.a.
Ya, keep drinking the kool aid....
Hush child
what? are you retarded or something.
Faggggotttt anti zionist...lol........you just wish you were a jew too
You can do better....
Fucking sheep.
The us was responsible for those problems in the first place
Hey, butter, tell your mom I'm sorry for tearing it up so bad....
Hey i make people laugh, I'm a fake Jew, and I hate zionists.
*** I can't believe is not butter
Faggggotttt anti zionist...lol........you just wish you were a jew too
March 7, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
Tough guys on a keyboard.
I see there is no "report Abuse" button here,
but at the bottom of the page one can contact CNN directly,
i am going to ask them to block both you and Anti-zionist
permanently.
Enough of your garbage mouth and abuse.
@ ATTENTION CNN MODERATOR: STFU!
I'm going to tell my rabbi on you!
Your abuse is too much for my eyes.
Snitches are snitches but telling because someone hurt your dirty evil zionist feelings. . . . well . . I oughta . . . . beat the **** out of you.
fantasy world man. the USA is totally broke and in debt, and you want more war? Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are total disaster zones, with over a million dead men women and children in Iraq alone. Our armed forces are exhausted and tired of the endless wars. Another war would be the definition of insanty.
sorry, the u.s. is NOT tired and worn out, they are stronger and smarter than ever. all that hands on training did wonders.
Dude, go to fucking Israel, cause people ate gonna beat your ass for traitorous comments like that.
I'm with you except for the first 3. You seem to suggest that the burning of an american flag, an already fallen dictator and crazy people playing on monkey bars are all reasons to go to war. Could you clarify for me?
sure np. if i had a neighbour burning and stabbing pictures of my children (my flag), i would go over there and smak him.
flag analogy
if my neighbour was a crazy monkey and beating on his children, i would go over there and smak him
libya analogy
if my neighbour started killing his own children (assad) i'd go over there and smak him. – clarification enough for you?
p.s. – i want peace with my neighbour, but not if he's acting like those aforementioned....
Tom, gay bar closes soon...better hurry
anti-z i'll just let you sink yourself. i'm guessing you're about 15 years old and too afraid to go outside because of zits. it's ok, we were all 15 once and we understand. the idiocy of your comments have every1 here thinking you should be in school.
Way, am I getting to you tommy boy??
I.assure you, vulgar or not, people AGREE with my observations about you.
Fukk off you little zionist pansy bitch.
Tom you the man! God bless america bro
dam straight. i'm canadian btw)
I see that the burning of American flags was grounds for an invasion. Brilliant! As for 'defeating' Hitler goes, we had allies – such as the Soviet Union, who bore the brunt of the Wermacht and Luftwaffe.
Hey, Tom – I thought Canadians were educated. You can't spell to save your ass. Well, I guess even Canada has its share of morons.
Warning to all nut jobs of the world........for 236 years we have been taking care of the worlds bullies. We never asked for the job...but if you want be dumb........"go ahead punks make our day!" this message brought to you by a American. if you don't think we have what it takes ask the Japanese the Germans and Bin laden.........we are the definition of the sleeping giant you don't want to mess with...we never forget.
We ARE the worlds bully, you fucking idiot.
@TOM, MY MAN, YOU ARE A TOOL! PLAIN & SIMPLE...
Strange....I believe Senator McCain bashed the Obama Administration for taking action in Libya now he is gun-ho for airstrikes on Syria?! Time to retire McCain! I live in Arizona and you have not helped the state in all your years as a Senator. When I moved to Arizona 30 years ago we had the same problems at the border as we do now and the education system has gotten worse. He can't even help his own state unless it is an election year!
Where are the surrounding muslim countries? Why are they not jumping in to save their fellow muslims? Oh yaa, if muslims are killed by fellow muslims, it's OK. If non-muslims kill muslims (or heaven forbid, burn a book) all hell breaks loose.
I like listening to Louie-Louie.
This is exactly what needs to happen...other Islamic nations step up and get their brother-Muslims staraightened out. After all, they are a peace-loving, caring religion who surely are aware and concerned about the needless violence in Syria . They're all powerful and wealthy too, so it wouldn't be any problem to address this issue effectively and since they are just and concilliatory by nature, finding a solution there would be simple. LOL We need to stay out of this one for a change and let them straighten this mess out on their own in their own way and time! Historically, these folks thrive on violence and chaos anyway, so whats the big deal anyway!.
LOL – that wouldn't be the first 'mistake' the US has made sticking their nose where it isn't wanted and doesn't belong!
As for McCain & his PTSD Bomb syndrome – he's old & 'indoctrinated' from Vietnam where he sold his soul to the devil to get special privileges – nobody wants to listen to this so-called 'hero' anymore!!
Totally agree!
I agree that macain is an old assss crackkkkeer...but if we were on dose peoples
Shoes,we would want some one to help us...i know we all think that every one there hates us and that theres nothing but american haters,,but ,,,there is good people there,yes alot o babad people,,but some good people,,,people that wish that the nightmare would end...and I think,they are worth the risk....god would want us to help the good....
dude, americans are not hated everywhere. your allies include:
canada
the u.k.
europe
south korea
japan
australia
new zealand
india
sweden
denmark
holland
actually, almost the entire planet. and those that despise the u.s. do so out of jealousy – and that's pretty much the bottom line. go u.s.a. – we're with you.
Tom, your a fucking idiot.
The USA gives our buddies an option, get in line or get invaded.
Sheep go baaaaa.
"dude" . . .the whole world hates israel.
i think you suck using the word . . . "dude" . . whatever.
so stupid.
Steve he didn't sale his soul....he refused to be released because of who his father was...he did his duty. If you question that then you truly don't know what you are talking about
Well, I'm glad I'm not a Syrian in Syria!
Disco music makes me horny.
What the H*** is wrong with John McCain he just wants to bomb-bomb-bomb everyone at the first sign of trouble.Is he senile or what?
You are right, AMERICA, STAY OUT OF IT.
you are so right, McCain should retire, all he wants is war... we helped out Iraq with their dictator and all we got is more hatred from them, i'm so glad our troops is out from there, and Afghanistan, our troops should get out immidiately.. MCain reminds me of Cheney when Bush was president, go right in and look for weapons of mass destruction.. what's wrong with these republicans, all they want is WAR...maybe we should try something different this time around, because all the other wars didn't get us nowhere, but hatred throughout the world.. and working together with other countries to come to a compromise when it comes to Syria... we should not trust congress, they can't seem to get it together when it comes to our nations economy, and they want to show the world that we lead in wars...NO WAY, MCAIN, "GO HOME!!!!"
He's a Republican, what do you expect?
John, my heart is with you but my head is with Panetta. I really don't think we have a compelling national security interest here. Hezzbollah will just move into Lebanon or Iraq, and I'm not sure either is preferable. We just can't keep playing cop all over the world whenever a bad guy does something outrageous. I'm more than willing to join a broad coalition similar to Libya, but it isn't there yet. If we go in alone, we'll end up being the bad guy and the focus rather than Assad.
I agree 100% It is going to make things worse. NO U.S. Action
Chill, I couldn't agree with you more. I think John McCain is an admirable man and a fine senator, but his comments of the last couple of months make me wonder if it's better to NOT have an ex-fighter pilot as President. Fighter pilots are by nature aggressive, very quick to respond, and extremely bold. All wonderful qualities, but Presidents should be more contemplative. Seems to me Rumsfeld was a fighter pilot, too, before he became SecDef. Of course, so was George H.W. Bush, but in a different age, when planes moved slower and pilots had more time to think before acting.
Make peace now
Perhaps this is the right season for the Palestinian people to have their own Arab Spring and call for their independence! The only problem is when Israel starts to drop their American made cluster bombs and rockets on refugee villages, schools and hospitals, the US won't condemn Israel's atrocities. A matter of fact, the US would support Israel's ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. Perhaps it is this kind of double standard and unjust foreign policy that forced Mr Adenajad to make his outrageous comments about the holocaust and about Israel's existence! Yes, you could call it America's extreme and outrageous foreign policy!
Israel is no peach but they're certainly not engaged in ethnic cleansing. Don't sensationalize – it weakens your position. Palestine should have an independent state and if rockets come across the borders into Israel they have every right to retaliate against another sovereign nation just as we would do if rockets were fired at our civilians from Canada or Mexico.
Or Israelis and Palestinians can have ONE state where they live together....kinda like here in the US. You don't see the Blacks or Hispanics or even the Jews say they want their own state....do you?! We all live together.
But there's a big difference if some terrorist regime was to fire rockets into the US from Mexico or Canada! For example, we wouldn't drop bombs indiscriminately on scores of innocent people to make a point! Instead we would do an investigation and then go after the root of the problem! However, Isrrael's policy is to kill anything and anybody that moves! Even if that includes dropping two thousand pound bombs on a clearly marked UN compaund with UN peace keepers! Let's face it, Israel is the most brutal and evil government in the history of the world! And I say so because despite what happened to its ancestors in the holacust, Israel had deliberately and recklessly repeated what Adolph Hitler did, literally committing genocide against the Palestinian and Lebanese people for decades! Not to mention Israel also sold nuclear technology and resources to the Apartheid government of South Africa to maintain their oppressive system and to wipe out the African race should it pressed further for its freedom! I have no problem with the people of Israel because there's in good and bad in every country but the Israeli government is the most evil in modern world history! Period!
Actually ethnic cleasning is one of more trivial crimes Israel is responsible for.
Zionism must be destroyed.
The Palestinians do not realize how good they have it. Believe it or not, there is no government on Earth that is as patient and gentle as the Israelis are. If the same attacks that have been launched against Israel had been launched against any other nation on this Earth, there would not be one stone left standing on top of another within any of the Palestinian territories. Can you imagine what would happen if they were firing random rockets into the US? Russia? China? (God help you) or Japan? Heck, look at what's happening in Syria. Weeks of shelling into undoubtedly civilian areas, and that's against Assad's *own people*. Can you imagine what he'd do against foreigners? We will criticize Israel when they do something we would not do if we were in their shoes. Briefly, after 9/11, it was thought Palestinians might be behind it and plans were already underway to turn Gaza into a ghost town. Seen in that light Israel is very, very restrained. The Palestinians need to give up this dream that Israel will somehow suddenly not exist, recognize they will not get the precise 1967 borders or control of Jerusalem, and make a deal.
You nasty retard.
You will find the great majority of earth, hate your kind, and many of those ate willing to make violence upon you, should zionism drag the world into war once again.
Down with criminal Israel!!
Ah yes, that "religion of peace" we keep hearing about. You bring shame to your people with your unthinking hatred., anti-zionist. When will you realize that it does not please God that two of the three houses of Abraham are at each other's throats? Against men you might persevere, but you will never persevere against the will of the almighty. Give the early Israelites credit- they sinned against God, learned their lesson, and only had to wander in the desert for forty years. It's been over sixty years and you're still wandering in the desert. Clinton offered the Palestinians a just and lasting peace, and he was spurned. Looks like you have another sixteen years to go before your next chance at redemption.
Fukk you baby killer.
Abraham wanted to cut his fukking sons throat.
Fukk you, and your evil god.
Powerless sheep.
So you are saying that Israel is being very generous and forgiving beacuse they did not bomb and kill as much as they really could???? Wow!! Moreover if they used any WMDs to turn Palestine to a ghost town then they winds blowing down stream into Isreal will harm them as well. So they are not being generaous or kind they are very beligerant by nature. Moreover if they go after Palestine then rest of the Arab world will not sit on their hands and watch. That could be the beginning of WW III.
if we go into Syria...Iran will send troops to help because with out Syria Iran is alone....and if don't stop Assad there will be WWIII............and then China will show it true nature.
MS oF NY, considering what we did to Japan after they attacked a territorial port and killed three thousand Americans, or what we've done in Iraq and Afghanistan, uh, yes, the Israelis have been extraordinarily generous and forgiving. Eliminating Gaza would not require WMD either... look up "Tokyo firebombing" or "Dresden".
In the 1980's we armed Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviets and 20 years later he attacks New York and the Pentagon. Now McCain and other warhawks want to attack Syria and Iran. Did we not learn anything from supporting Bin Laden in the 80's? All the president has to do is say that we are going to attack Syria and Iran and then all of the "Neocons" will be against it which will save thousands of american lives. The people are "NUTS".
you're right – arming the mujahadeen was one of the worst foreign policy blunders the US has made in recent times and many good people paid for it with their lives in 9-11.
......and Afghanistan.
People like Mccain and his neo-cons they cannot see beyond their noses. They dragged the US into wars in Iraq and now they want us to fight in Syria and Iran.
No understanding of history or the long term interests of the American nation.
They only care where their next campaign contribution will come from and the hell with the lives of all our young troopers who will put their lives on the line for these idiots.
Where's George when you need him?
George who??
Sorry, time for another fact check.
American NEVER directly armed or funded Bin Laden. America armed, trained and funded a select group of fighters affiliated with the Northern Alliance, an Afghani group who was, incidentally a staunch rival of the Taliban. The man we supported in Afghanistan is in fact, the same one Al Qaeda assassinated in exchange for a guarantee of safe haven after the panned 9/11 attacks.
INDIRECTLY, US dollars went to several armed militia groups because of the Pakistani route. Pakistan demanded that all foreign aid be placed in their hands to distribute, based on the idea that the US did not have the connections or knowledge to effectively distribute covert support on a large scale to the anti soviet resistance. This was completely true BTW.
Pakistan, for their part, unevenly distributed that funding to favored tribal groups in an effort to ensure that the power would end in the hands of a group they had some level of control and alliance with. Again, non of that funding came to Bin Laden.
In FACT, Bin Laden neither got nor needed any arms or funds from the US. Bin Laden brought his own funding to Afghanistan through family wealth, Arab business connections and NGOs he facilitated. In actuality, that was HOW he became famous. Bin Laden's entire claim to fame in the Afghan war was his ability to fund resistance groups. He would otherwise have remained a nobody.
True on all points...how refreshing.
I want to hear the Republican primary candidates (that want war with Iran) to volunteer to be in the front lines when we go to war. That way they could lead in front (they have criticized Obama for leading from behind) and set an example.
We all know that it's the last thing these miserable chickenhawk pricks will ever do.
Amen to your comment. In Romney's case – He has five young healthy sons. If he is willing to have anyone of them participate in uniform; that is if he is willing to put his son(s) in harm's way, then Romny is credible. If he is not, then it is best for him to be silent on this issue.
Good point!
Why is America going to waste its taxpayers money for the otherside of the planet. Let the Arabs, Russia and China work it out. Quit spending our money on bs wars.
I, Agree, STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!!!!!!!
We ARE NOT the worlds baby sitter. If other countries are not ready to step in......then we should NOT be so quick to jump in. Have we learned NOTHING from the past 10 years? Let Syrian's fight for their own independence, just as our forefathers did against the British. We ARE NOT a perfect society and we need to work on fixing our selves...before we continue telling others how to be/live.
Give McCain a Snoopy scarf and send him off in his own plane to save Syria. I am very thankful he lost election or look at where we would be. He is still running and has gone mental against the President on any issue but most of all war at any cost.!
While I don't disagree completely with the sentiment, the Revolutionary war was won with the help of the French (at Yorktown, VA)
You are correct. But Napoleon only helped us because England was his enemy and his helping us was part of a larger tactical plan. The guy was brilliant.
to the comment below
You have your history confused. Napoleon didn't take power until after the French revolution, which was also after our own revolution.
Seconded. The Revolution was only won with the help of substantial aid from the French and loans drawn from several others like the Dutch.
While I do not support military intervention in Syria, because I don't feel any plans presented to date are feasible or pass cost benefit analysis; I have to point out some things.
1. If its a matter of foreign aide in support of US beneficial goals, so be it. As alluded to earlier, the US only won its freedom with the aide of other countries who decided that a US win in the Revolution would be strategically advantageous to them.
2. If its a matter of humanitarianism, be objective about it. Don't sit around talking about how we need to send aide packages and food/medical support to them two months from now like that makes us good people. As has already been expressed by residents of Rwanda, Kosovo, Somalia, Darfur and on and on, a true concern for the plight of those people doesn't mean sending bandaides after the fact. Real humanitarianism means not standing by and watching genocide happen while we have the resources to protect the victims.
(however, in this case, I DO NOT feel we are in the position to make a positive impact without inviting other unacceptable consequences for ourselves and general stability there. Hence why I am against military intervention in this case.)
Sorry GotThumbs
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How can we learn anything from the past 10 years. Two totaly different, almost oposite administration. Agfganistan was a war of retribution, Irak a war of revenge with false pretense, and immense cost due to economic manipulation through use of mercenaries and sub contractors, which increased all cost dramaticaly.
We are pilling out from those 2 wars, whch had absolutely nothing to do with being the worlds baby sitter.
At the oposite of the spectrum, the lybian crisis. A strong coalition, a backstage role directing *special effects* and ensuring a smooth victory for the rebels, and saving half a billion lives in the process. As a bonus this war cost less than the daily cost of Iraqi *stage maintenance*.
So what did we learn, that this allowed the arb spring to move forward, if not always smothly. And the change spread to Syria. Now should we let them down... absolutely not.
But as in Lybia we should avoid direct involvment and take a backstage role. Turkey and the arab league already have a front row seat, and are verry active in countering Iran.
If Assad fall, Iran will revolt. 100% garanteed. It will be like a giant flood.
The question is should we use surprise weapons. verry fast very strong morale breaking weapons that would trash Assad forces, break his army morale, cause massive defections, and rally the oposition.
As an added bonus, such a precise strike could verry well cause chaos in Iran, forcing them to recall their special troups from Syria.
Now what could be so fast and so dramatic and so hyper. Well, I almost said it. I almost said too much. Hope someone at the Pentagon read this, think hard, and use their creativity to create the ***perfect dawn*** operation. Just like Gandalf riding at first light with the Rohirim, this could send the hordes of darkness fleing
The below terrible lessons have been learned (hopefully):
1. Never go to war unless the American public is for it too and is willing to pay the terrible price it entails. This means added taxes, the draft, etc. Had those been proposed at the start, Iraq would never have been invaded by us.
2. Learn from the Israelites. In Iran's case, if they have to, they will give no warning; they will bomb/destroy designated targets and then get out. If there is collateral damage, then that just happens. On the other hand, we would do what they would do except that we would stay and try to rebuild what we destroyed; try to win hearts and minds and stay many years. Plus, we would do it on the cuff and only the poor saps in the military would be involved. We would use stop/loss to prevent enlistments from ending.
A few logical errors there. First, a draft would have nothing to do with it, as even now in the Aftermath of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the services are meeting their recruiting goals and less than 1% of the US population serves or has served in the military. No need for a draft.
Secondly, the problems of the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with the decision to invade. First, understand the Iraq war as it truly happened. Two phases. The invasion and the reconstruction. The invasion went almost exactly to plan and was a military and strategic success. The set goals (toppling of the current government, liberation of oppressed socio ethnic groups, ouster of Saddam and Co) were all achieved on schedule.
The problem was the lack of planning and mismanagement of the reconstruction. Fact: in the beginning phases, the reconstruction was off to a swimming start. We even had the support of the populace. Unfortunately, reconstruction initiatives that were succeeded on the ground by local military leaders were ordered stopped in favor of a disastrous top down plan from Cheney, Rumsfeld and others who screwed the pooch. Example, the dumb ass idea to kick out ALL the Baathists, which effectively created the Sunni insurgency while crippling the New Iraqi Army.
So, it was not the decision that failed, it was lack of contingency planning and poor second stage execution at the direction of unqualified bureaucrats over qualified ground level leaders.
To analogize, if you decide to take your car in for service and the repair process gets all dicked up and ruins your car. Its not decision to get repairs thats too blame, its mishandling of the procedure.
Our government is blood hungry.
As Americans we have to say thank God we don't have a Republicans President because if we did, just imagine fighting a war on three fronts right now...A war in Afghanistan, a war in Iran and a war in Syria! Thank God for President Obama! !
Oh yeah your right lets just sit back will thousands get killed....great idea !
You're lucky tony – you're one of a few zionist dogs that can say they were told to STFU by George Washington.
No, we aren't sitting back and letting thousands die! We are assessing day by day how to defuse the crisis without making it worst! If we rushed for all out war, then more innocent Syrians would die than if we tried intervening by other means! However, let's face it, military intervention is not too far away. As Prime Minister David Cameron said, Assad days are numbered! It is just a matter of time! The Syrian people have to sit tight!
Tony – just exactly how many other Countries intervened to save ANY of the tens of thousands killed here in the Civil war? Answer – NONE. If you want to spend your money to save people in other countries who have conflicts that you do not like – GO. Fly there waving a flag and help them out. I am sure that your name would not even be spelled correctly on the box you end up in. Speak only for yourself when arguing to go 'help' people. I am amazed just how many beer drinking zealots who are NFL addicts have an opinion on this but lack the gusts to put your words into deeds.
Thousands die needlessly every day in this country. Worry about them first.
Dude, you need to shut your zionist cokk hole.
Your gonna be in danger here in the next few years, as the world turns on you.
Filth
The neocons all want another boots-on-ground misadventure in the Mideast because it fattens their wallet. Vote GOP in November and watch the blood-lust rise to the occasion. In particular, Rick 'Taliban' Santorum would be more than happy to declare yet another illegal war on Iran.
Lets turn Syria into a political point machine. Obama is a worthless leader and was from the start. This election cycle is a joke also.Who could make an informed decision with the massive amount of manipulation and cherry picked points spewing falsehoods daily buy ignorant and biased journalists. I puke in all your faces cause you make me sick. Blowing up some Syrian soldiers with F-22 hardly botherrs me at all. I'd say maybe we need to send some to Washington to get rid of all the little Assads hiding there. Sorry that your all retarded....
Just think of it all u douchenozzle lemmings....if the US sits on its lazy Obozo AZZ like the rest of the neggggors are always doin, ur king loses the election cuz people will say how much of a chickenturrddd he is this fall before they x is box on the ballots!
netanyoho- Now that your ignorance has been confirmed; why dont you share with the audience you strategic plan on International Affairs!
or like the trailer trash crackers that sit on there butt with 3 teeth in there whole mouth... take u and ur remaining 3 teeth to iran and fight if you so choose. we the people are tired of being sacrificed for the old out of touch white man..
Did you know that more whites collects welfare than minorities
Canada is looking better and better.
Indeed
Another shining example of our broken educational system.
We are the fools trying to make peace with the Middle East.We have nothing in common and sure do not have the same beliefs.
No....we have nothing in common with people like you
Looser
You spelled loser as looser, that's an automatic loss of credibility. Please close your web browser and step away from your computer, have a nice day/evening/whatever.
Pay attention to McCain's reasons for bombing Syria. All of which benefit ISRAEL, not AMERICA. When are people going to wake up and realize our government is out of control? Israel first, America second, mentality. They're going to run this country into the ground. It's on it's way.
Totally agree!
Not quite the right peckin order but ur on somewhat of the right track!!!
Hey, stop thinking!
don't question israel or our boys that run the American govt.
We like our slaves stupid
I'm going to have to report you to my rabbi.
Just you wait, our Rothchilds secret police will be visiting you real soon.
Remember J. F. Kennedy? Well,we took care of him and we can take care of you, too.
israel owns America.
ands if'a you don't believe it, watch and listen to Obama next week. he's going to okay giving us your tax dollars in the tune of $4 billion dollars – Ain't that great?
Ha-ha ha-ha – it's so fun to take your money you stupid Americans.
israel forever and you keep that money coming FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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Is he named after the sandwich? Or visa versa?
This is one blackguard reggin above!
But seriously speaking, what is really the purpose of the US Secretary of State? If our Commander-in-Chief is the leader of the free world, then shouldn't Hillary Clinton be the most powerful and influencial woman in the world next to our President? So why are we relying on the Arab League and the Russian and Chinese foreign minister to hold talks with Assad? During the 2008 Presidential election, candidate Obama said as President of the United States he'd be willing to talk to our enemies! A few months ago Hillary Clinton traveled all the way to Myanmar, formerly known as Burma to encourage the Myanmarise government to work towards more democratic reform. Yet there is no unrest or turmoil in Myanmar. So why can't Hillary Clinton travel to Damascus and look Assad straigh in the eyes and say to him we're dead serious when we say enough is enough? And by the way why couldn't Ms. Clinton also travel to Tehran and say the same to President Adminajad? To be this is just plain common sense!
Then again, I don't know why the people of Syria are all up in arms about their government kidnapping, imprisoning, torturing, beating, raping and murdering it's own people on a widespread/institutional scale. What do they have to protest about? I thought those people loved that kinda stuff. It's definitely a Western/Zionist conspiracy to undermine the Syrian government and Islam.
NATO and al Qaeda, fighting alongside each other, again. This demonstrates that (1) al Qaeda is NOT what has been so broadly promoted by the last 3 administrations with the corporate weasel media in full kneepad/lapdog mode (2) the entire war on terrorism is a bogus construct.
It's not just McCain. The Arab League (coalition of 22 Middle Eastern nations) is begging us to intervene. The Syrians are already killing each other and every droll idiot in the Middle East is saying this is all a Western/Zionist conspiracy/plot. I say we just way until Syria = Population: 1 (the guy left, to change the population sign)
Although, I do think since the Russians refuse to vote for action against Syria because they're so concerned about their weapons sales there, which are being used to slaughter innocent civilians on a near genocide scale...I think they should spread the weapons around a little more so the people of Syria can fight back.
Russia sits back and let other people bleed. They learned in two world wars and a revolutions ,also Afghanistan that people will kill each other as long as there are people here.
Why would McCain think that whatever replaces Assad will not like Hezbollah and become less of a threat to Israel? I don't think that's a "given". Assad leaving would be good, but keep our boyz boots the hell out of there. Going in would give the other Arab countries another reason not to like us.
who cares about Israel? We are talking about Syrian babies, children, women, grand mas, grand pas..etc getting executed! Why do you bring Israeli b@stards into this?
This cou try sould do nothing, let the muslim countries help each other. Remember, they don't want us in their countries, until they want us
McCain should shut the "F" up and retire already as he's obviously got dementia and is not in his right mind. Else he should grab a gun and go there himself and fight his own battles. Retire the old bag!
why don't u try stickin ur head in a toliet bowl...SEE if it FITS!!!
how come are you left free ?!?!???
The sh1t tasted real good. Thanks for your advise
There's a solution that would take about a day to accomplish! Just send in SEAL TEAM 6 and get Assad! OBL is very lonely!
That's just plain rediculous.
specially since believin anything this lying administration run by an ape says can be very inaccurate and harmful to your health!!!
That language can put you in trouble. Please take additional precautions while typing foul language.
No kidding. Why is this even up for debate. NO MORE WAR!!!!!!!!
Good old and I do mean OLD John Mccain all he ever wants todo is attack and bomb other countries, thank god he was not elected President. He needs to retire already.
the mushrooms will be sprouting soon in the US....u will have to escape them too, ya moRON! But I doubt u do!!!
how's about u retire from printing such BS in this chatroom???
how about you play in the nearest high traffic area you can find??
How is it that you cannot compose a coherent sentence? Do you have a learning disability? Nothing to be ashamed of, but it would explain your lack of articulation.
War, war, war – is that all McCain knows? Thank goodness cooler heads are prevailing. McCain always says listen to the military commanders, except when he does not like what they have to say, then it becomes let's attack. The man is an unapologetic war monger. The military is not an abstract entity. They are real people. He needs to remember that. Go into Syria, go into Iran, hell, let's just invade the entire Middle East. Apparently it's okay to borrow money for war., but not to help the American people. What is wrong with these people? Enough already.
OBAMA/BIDEN/FIRST LADY MICHELLE 2012!!!!
I agree 100%! Thank goodness McCain wasn't elected or we would be at war perpetually! No matter what is said his answer is LAUNCH AIR STRIKES! If we do, in his opinion, it's too much, not enough, too soon, not soon enough! Our poresident has a handle on it and has experts to advise him. That doesn't mean he's a wimp. It takes a strong person to keep his cool under pressure.
But, hey, if McCain had been elected the rest of the world would probably just be US satellite countries by now or maybe there really would be 57 states. After all, if we're going to attack other countries and spend all our money there, we need some tangible benefit, such as land and resources. Everybody Wants To Rule The World.
I forget... Was one of the 57 the moon?
TOTAL, UNADULTRATED BS!!!!
Mc Cain was trained to tear things up not negociate .He never learned the art of bowing where your rear end is a foot higher than your head.
retard
That word is prohibited and illegal to use however harmless it may seem.
I apologize. I should not have typed it.
"illegal"?
Go fuck yourself, "CNN".
I guess "Yourself" is your mothers name Queef?
Did someone put hot oil in Queefs a hole. his sh1t is burning
Queef's son will be teased as retarded.
YOU DONT READ MUCH NEWS DO YOU? QUEEF?
retard word is worse than fuck
people like you need to be butchered in Syria
Um......Pedro........I wasn't responding to you. And yet you've fired off three asinine retorts in a row. Now, I know you lack basic reading comprehension, but it's obvious that you're also in need of some attention. I would suggest you do the same thing that your father did for love, and that's patronize public bathrooms.
BTW, you were an 'accident'.
The best thing America could do for it's own security is completely disengage from Israel. We've already gone much too far in placating the brainlessly superstitious among us by assuring the survival of this parasite against all rationality.
I say we destroy the people who oppose what the UN enforces.
Great idea. Let Israel nuke every middle east dictatorship and destroy all oil for the entire world. Think about it. Israel will have to destroy Iran, Syria, Egypt, ....? the middle east will be hot with radiation. And your kids will feel the impact.
YUP...they'll feel dayum proud of it...if we don't do it, OBOZO loosed the next election...now we wouldn't want that...WOULD WE LEMMINGS???
I doubt we'd get that much fallout from them nuking their desert countries. Have at it!
What your saying is pretty cowardly. We helped form Israel through the UN so Jews could have 1 freakin place to call their own without being persecuted. And now cuz these 3rd world bullies don't like it we should say..."ok...don't mind us...we'll turn the other way"? This land was referred to as Israel LONG before Islam even existed...and the Jews lived in it LONG before there was ever a Muslim. Sometimes it's painful to do what is right.
I say it is time to chop off some ARABS heads! We watched silently as they took off the heads of Americans and you can watch it urself on the net if you haven't already done so! The only ones in the US who perform such surgery on people that they rob and kill is a race of people called reggins! It is time we chopped off some of the heads of the SAND variety of that subspecies of APES!
Yeh,Harry Truman ended one war and started the one we are in now.
the war we are in now was started by those two bazturd Kennedys...John and Bobby. They both got some black kuntz and decided they like to free all the blackberries...now we got their problems and those two shytts are dead and gone! Look at the shytt this precitated!!!
correction above: precipitated!
I'd say u need to disengage you mouf from that Obozo tubesteak u got down ur throat!
The US should interfere at all. Let them kill each other.
The USA has been sticking its nose in way too many peoples business.
The Arab League should get off its @ss for sure.
At the same time the UN needs to be involved – the US should not charge in there like a cowboy and take all the responsibility yet again.
Sure, if McCain literally wants to lead the charge, boots on ground I'll gladly go.
Hey, I got an idea. How about THE ARAB LEAGUE, you know that 22 MEMBER NATION / coalition of Middle Eastern countries group get off THEIR a4$es and do something? I'm sure they could pool a "few" bucks and a few guys together. As of now, the A League is pleading with the U.S. to intervene at the same time that their member governments are criticizing us for possibly intervening because hey, we just want Syria's oil.
muslims won't fight muslims unless it's over the "holy land" - an altogether low IQ for all of those combined countries makes them think that it's not their business that their neighbors have the ability to destroy the world. woohoo, 12/22/2012!
Muslims have killed more of their own people than we ever did.The people we sent troops to die for killed more of ours than did Al Quaida in Iraq.The more Democracy we force on the world the weaker we become.
Syria doesnt have oil, thats why the US wont intervene.
F Syria...we need to be nukin' Iran with the big boys HERE! Tha Israelis!
When will this madness end. What right does the U.S. of A. have to decide what the heck goes on in another country.
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta is a zionist puppet, like his boss Obama Bin Laden.
WAKE UP AMERICA – WE CAN DO A REGIME CHANGE RIGHT HERE!
ALL TRAITORS WILL PAY A PRICE.
NO MORE WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
ROTHCHILDS devil baby israel is the root of all our troubles.
Please China nuke all of israel, france, england, NYC, Florida and where ever the nasty evil zionists have found a home.
Come on WW3 Baby!!!
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
typical zionist reply.
so predictable – I can vouch for gofish. She works for us.
I'm an atheist and even I think this guy is an idiot.
Grow up little kid and lay off the crack pipe and kool-aid. You've been on uTube far too long.
I'd say he been sukkin some tubesteak too!
ya, he been sukkin Oboma's tubesteak!!!
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I'm a stupid zionist plain and simple.
Best of all, I will commit treason for israel.
Ya sure ya got all the cliches, Jimmie?
Sounds like a Towel head to me
It's sad to watch a person's descent into madness.
ya....chuckle, LOL!
Since it's the Israeli government who thought about attacking Iran before Obama was elected because they knew Obama was not going to be supportive of their agenda, your claims hold less merit than Newt's claim to be a good Catholic.
It is very difficult to imagine that in this days and age such carnage and crimes against humanity being perpetrated against innocent unarmed syrian people and the whole world is not able to stop it. In fact Russia and China are supporting it. The cowerd Alwatie ruled syrian army will not stand one single hit from any forces. This will curb their atrocities. Attacking innocent civilians is their way of revenge. It is very ironic that saudi and Qatari are not visioning the threats that are comming from Iran and her allies. Unfortunately, the saudies are living in the la la land.
What about Gaza?
What about here at home – the War on Drugs here has killed more Americans than were lost in Vietnam and Korea.
Tony has only zionist vision – its called caca 20-20 since he is full of caca.
I agree. It is China and Russia who are responsible for the rising death toll in Syria. World intervention should be the only way these things are handled from now on. It vastly reduces the costs to the US and the amount of our soldiers that need to be on the ground. It also can't be said we are only doing it for oil if we are in agreement with the rest of the UN, so it helps our reputation as well.
No mores so than the weapons we sold to our "friends".If you notice we have always had to have an enemy.Keep the dollers flowing in the arms industry.If war quit all over the world and no one bought weapons we would see a world depression for sure.We sat and trained the nuts who flew into our trade center.I would love to have heard the conversation when they supposedly did no twant to land or take off in a plane,just fly it.
Yeah, send in the rough and tumble idf – the baddest meanest sons-a-bitches-baby-killing fighting force the world has ever seen.
Just keep the money rolling in.
I can vouch for Ted. Of course I would rather be Ted than Dead, but hey, I'm Jonathan Pollard, the best American born traitor the world has ever known.
Yippppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
George, you're more of a nutjob than the GOP candidates.
takes one to know one.
the whole world has finally gotten it into their hard heads that we can't change 1600 years of hate.
I say u go stop it....I'll nuke Iran and we'll all be happy!
Russia and china dont have the balls to intervene,china is our puppet and we are the puppet masters(israel,usa) and russia and their rustty ships and planes cant afford underwear
How in the flying fuck could you misspell 'rusty'?
Lol..my phone is a swype not a keyword..sorry big fingers..qqz