U.S. sees "no fracturing" of Assad regime
March 1st, 2012
06:19 PM ET

U.S. sees "no fracturing" of Assad regime

By Barbara Starr and Jamie Crawford

After weeks of collecting intelligence on Syria and watching the attacks by the forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad, the U.S. sees "no fracturing" of the Syrian regime and assesses al-Assad could remain in power for some time to come if the situation does not change, according to a senior U.S. official.

This the basic conclusion of top officials closely watching Syria, the official said. Unless something changes in the next several days, this will also be the message delivered to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The hearing, called for Wednesday, is the first public hearing in which both men will be publicly questioned by Congress on the Syrian crisis.

Sen. John McCain, the senior Republican on the committee, has already called for arming rebel forces, something the defense secretary expects to be asked about, according to the official. The issue of U.S. military planning for options in Syria is also expected to arise, but officials say the secretary and the general may not be able to offer many specifics in an open session before the public.

Instead, they are likely to talk more about the current situation in Syria and how the U.S. views the al-Assad regime.

"The assumption is Assad will continue to persevere until he and other regime leaders are sufficiently suppressed," the official said. While there have been a number of defections, it's not yet at the point of tipping al-Assad's grip on power.

As for al-Assad, "He's enjoying tactical survival. He can wait it out. He looks to be dug in" the official said. So far, al-Assad is believed to enjoy unhindered movements and communications. But the hope, he said, is that al-Assad is feeling the "strategic weight and pressure of outside critics."

The official's characterization matches the assessment given to Congress by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who told a Senate hearing in mid-February that all signs pointed to al-Assad holding on, including little indication of military desertions.

But the newer assessment, even as world condemnation grows louder, suggests al-Assad's regime is holding up the pressure. Last week at an international meeting on Syria held in Tunisia, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called on the Syria military to disobey their orders.

"The longer you carry out its campaign of violence, the more it will stain your honor. But if you refuse to take part in attacks on your fellow citizens, your countrymen will hail you as heroes," Clinton said.

Clinton also said there were indications that his supporters are beginning to have doubts.

"We also know from many sources there are people around Assad now who are beginning to hedge their bets. They didn't sign up to slaughter people, and they are looking for ways out. We saw this happen in other settings in the last years. I think it is going to begin happening in Syria," Clinton said while in Tunisia for an international meeting on Syria.

But the latest U.S. assessment does not indicate that is happening yet.

The longer the conflict in Syria goes on and the regime holds out, the greater the chance for the country to descend into full-scale civil war, two senior State Department officials said Thursday.

Jeffrey Feltman, assistant secretary of state for Near East affairs, said the United States is working with its allies to reach a "tipping point" whereby the regime falls, and a new government representative of all Syrian society takes over.

Time is of the essence, he said.

"The demise of the Assad regime is inevitable," Feltman told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "It's important that the tipping point for the regime be reached quickly because the longer the regime assaults the Syrian people, the greater the chances of all-out war and a failed state."

But the opposition is not as organized as it was in Libya and is "divided" and "fractious" the officials said.

"The opposition leadership recognizes those dangers," Feltman said, noting the importance of beginning a transition in Syria soon. "The longer this goes on, the deeper the sectarian divisions, the higher the risks of long-term sectarian conflict, the higher the risk of extremism."

The leading political organization, the Syrian National Council, and the rebel Free Syrian Army have organizational issues of their own.

"The two organizations are separate. There is not a hierarchy between them," Ambassador Robert Ford, who recently returned to Washington following the closure of the U.S. embassy, told the panel. "They are not organically linked," he said, but added the two groups do talk and coordinate at local levels within Syria.

Despite the lack of organization, Ford said there was still a unity of purpose from his perspective. "They want a country where people are treated with dignity, everybody is treated with dignity" he said. "They have a vision of a country ruled by law."

That vision did not sit well with a senator on the committee who attended a classified briefing on Syria earlier in the week. The hour-long session was conducted at the Capitol on Wednesday and was focused on discussing the Syrian opposition, CNN's Ted Barrett reported.

"We heard no words whatsoever about anything other than this being a conflict between one group of people that has been oppressed by another group of people, and their desire to change that equation," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, told Ford. "The people fighting, from what I understand, are fighting for, you know, power and government. They're not fighting under the banner of democracy," he said.

"Senator, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree," Ford said.

The United States supports a transition laid out by the Syrian National Council from which a post-Assad leadership would be chosen, Ford said. "The people who are doing the fighting say they are fighting to defend the protest movement," he said. "So there is a link even if you can't say that the fighters themselves claim they're fighting for democracy."

Last week in Tunis, Clinton, along with representatives from 70 other countries, discussed forging a united plan on how to get humanitarian aid into Syria and to develop a closer relationship with the Syrian National Council.

Clinton said the group is emerging as an alternative to al-Assad's regime, and the consensus view of the Arab League and other governments is that the group is "credible representative of the Syrian people."

The United States has thus far resisted calls to arm the rebels, with Clinton, Clapper and others voicing caution over the uncertain composition of the group. There are concerns that elements of al Qaeda could take sides with the opposition to exploit the situation.

"We understand the earnest desire, the need, for people under siege in a place like Homs or in a place like Daraa - when their homes are being attacked by thugs - and people want to take up arms to defend themselves," Ford said. But working with regional governments and supporting the Arab League transition plan is still the best way forward, he said.

Ford also noted an increase in support from religious figures in Arab countries for the opposition to take up arms against the Syrian government.

"We have cautioned the opposition that if they declare some kind of big jihad, they will frighten many of the very fence-sitters still in places like Damascus, and it will make ultimately finding a solution to this, a durable solution, more difficult," Ford said.

soundoff (163 Responses)
  1. Zang

    When is NATO going to help the poor 3rd world citizens of the USA ?

    March 4, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Reply
  2. mardjan

    Ms Clinton is hallucinating. Hard as I look I don't see any viable alternative emerging out of this mess that we call the syrian opposition. I am afraid that we will be in the same situation that we are with Iran: Forever waiting for a viable alternative and closing communication channels with the ruling government of a country. It seems that they have forgotten what we pay them for, to communicate and create dialogue with other people, establish trade and cultural relationship with other civilizations. Instead Clinton is frozen in a self righteous posture, refusing to come to term with the reality on the ground. We want people to listen to us we have to respect them, not lecture them! She needs to get a pay cut or start doing her job right!

    March 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Reply
  3. mach2plus


    Are you there? Send us your photos and videos == CNN journalistic tactic that asks little girls and old women to hold English language signs (that they can’t read) and pretend that they are morose while “journalists” take pictures and videos of them for use as CNN World headline News propaganda and money making tools.

    Syria == Latest CNN liberal agenda used to deflect attention from the millions of people who are actually starving and being slaughtered elsewhere in Africa and the rest of the world.

    Lebanese Civil War == A 1980’s Civil War that the USA got involved and annihilated in, and left as futile after losing 299+ soldiers. Also, something that liberals don’t acknowledge.

    Foreign journalist == uninvited, camera toting, privileged, liberal rich kid insurgent, instigator, provocateur, and interloper.

    Terrorist == USA

    Freedom fighter == anyone fighting USA intervention and capitalistic greed.

    Insurgent == anyone helping others fight USA intervention and capitalistic greed.

    Irish Spring == soap used by the Irish and others for cleansing their bodies.

    Arab Spring == soap never used by muslims, who don’t know what soap is.

    Unarmed women and children == rioters, looters, and saboteurs that have either run out of ammunition, or dropped their weapons because they overheated and are cooking-off. Note: it is against liberal journalistic practice to photograph women and children actually carrying their weapons.

    Unarmed women and children (alternative version) == CNN staged props.

    Quran == cheap book of lies, intolerance, and bigotry used as a fire-starter, urine absorption, and wiping one's behind.

    Marines == US soldiers that use Napalm, antipersonnel mines, and 500/1000/2000 lb laser guided bombs (LGB’s) against civilians, and then complain that the Improvised Explosive Devices (IED’s) used against them by their “enemies” are “inhumane.”

    USA Drone == A first person shooter game designed and played at the White House. Uses ultra-high-tech, remotely operated weapons of war to violate another nation’s sovereign airspace to kill anyone: not wearing Nike sneakers; not wearing a Born in the USA t-shirt; not driving an automobile built in Detroit; or anyone not seen with a cell phone, computer, or IPod. Warning: when another nation does this the White House gets very, very angry.

    Military Intelligence == oxymoron

    US Congress == morons on oxy

    F-22 and J-35 Fighters == Latest US weapons of war ostensibly built for “defensive purposes only,” but only used for offensive purposes and to keep the USA military-industrial-complex alive and well.

    B-2 Bomber == USA first strike weapon.

    Mecca == What the B-2 should be used against (see above)

    Nobel Peace Prize == meaningless prize given out by inventor of TNT, who had second thoughts…

    Minarets == Used to identify target aimpoints (DMPI) in muslim countries. Typically occupied by former “American idol” singers that couldn’t make the grade.

    United Nations == Post League of Nations organization used to carry on its useless activities and to suck taxpayers dry.

    Gitmo == US Military Base in Cuba used for plausible denial purposes, and where US political prisoners are called “detainees,” and where prisoners are kept for over 10 years without legal recourse. Also, a place that Obama said he would immediately close if he became president, but still remains open (I guess he got in briefed when he became pres as to what Gitmo is really used for). Hint: Really not a prison at all.

    Israel == illegitimate nation created after WW2 by postwar military and political super powers USA and Britain, against the will of 99.9999% of the world.

    Zionism == Opposite of Islam, but identical. Kind of like matter and anti-matter when they get together.

    Coalition Effort (USA interpretation) == Preposterous propaganda words utilized by demented US Government public affairs personnel in hope of justifying and convincing naïve and gullible US citizens into believing that yet another US military involvement is warranted somewhere, and that other nations are somehow contributing and participating in the military action, and supporting “the cause,” when, in reality, the USA is flying 99% of the sorties, and putting 99% of the boots on the ground. US journalists will then only take pictures and report on the one foreign aircraft combat mission flown, or chance losing their US government approved credentials, or coveted seat on Air Force 1.

    Coalition Effort (non-USA interpretation) == How other nations around the world (and the United Nations) get away without having to spend a cent defending themselves or others, in knowing full well that the USA will care of it all, that the US taxpayer will foot the bill, that the USA will take all the blame, and that they will get all of the credit without ever having to lift a finger, spending one cent, or ever having to put one of their sons or daughters in harms way… Note: my apologies to you Brits out there, as you are reliable allies – Thank you.

    Rebuttals to this post == futile insinuations and accusations that I am somehow a radical, un-American, leftist, or fifth-columnist…

    March 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Reply
    • crawbar

      mach2plus, you are an example of how liberal propaganda affects good people on the right, or... actually, you are probably in the middle. Read more about zionizm before dripping with what they managed to affect you with...and you know, it does not smell good.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • Feltch

      Nahhhhh.............you're just a tad spun, is all.

      March 2, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Reply
    • Bob

      In reply to crawbar: i am a lifelong democrat and have forgotten more about zionism than you have ever known about it.

      In reply to feltch: naaaah, i just learned from my mistakes after retiring from spec ops and three wars...

      March 2, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Reply
    • You Hate Too Much

      That hate will burn you up. Better get a hose and put the fire out.

      June 30, 2012 at 11:22 am | Reply
  4. crawbar

    Asad is a tyran. So was Kadafy. So, to a lesser degree, was Mubarak. Who came to replace them? Mhuslim brotherhood. For the rest of the world and also, I believe, for the people of those countries it is even worse than those dictators.

    The peoples of these countries are as vicious as their dictators. They hate Israel, they hate West, they support the goals of their dictators to spread Islam all over the world and are ready to khill. They are ready to khill one another. It is in their nature. Those countries are in the dead end.

    In this situation I prefer Asad. And, I am glad that they are directing their khilling energy at one another. Nobody from the Western world has to interfere. Let them do that. That will compensate a little their birth rate. It is better if they khill one another than they khill us.

    Unfortunately, we cannot allow ourselves this luxury of sitting on the fence in some other situation such as Iraq, Iran, Afganistan. The aggressive power of Iran exceeded the level that is not dangerous for the West and Iran spreads immediately to the countries that we leave out of our control...

    March 2, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
    • Abe Lincoln

      bibi is a war criminal.

      March 2, 2012 at 11:13 am | Reply
      • crawbar

        Right. Then Hitler was a nice boy, the rest of the world were war criminals.

        Hey, bAbe, are you ok? Need some psyhiatric help?

        March 2, 2012 at 11:17 am |
      • Socrates

        Bibi? Is he a transvestite? What kind of name is that? Assad is a good guy and the other Muslims are the bad guys. Or the opposition are the good guys and Assad is the bad one. Really? These guys hate each other, they are not better than Bibi, the transvestite. They are religious fanatics. The whole Middle east is infected by religion and that included bloody Israel and Bibi, the transvestite. Religion is the savior of mankind. Really? Not even drunk I will take that farce. People who believe in something thay have never seen before, now or in the future. What kind of stupidity is that. Enough. I am going to church now.

        March 2, 2012 at 11:32 am |
      • crawbar

        Socrates, I am not sure you know that Bibi is the nickname for the prime minister of Israel Netanyahu, somebody who mhuslims and their apologists love dearly.

        March 2, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • crawbar

      Sorry, Socrates, I did not read your post in its entirety and made wrong conclusion. When I read, I understood that half of your brain is OK, but the other one is seriously ill.

      March 2, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
    • George

      Actually neither of them are tyrants, you are well and truly brainwashed by your zionist media.
      These sovereign nations were already on a hitlist that was decades old, just needed the right bs to
      get them in and war on terror and precrime prenukes was the answer.
      libya had medical services second to none in the world and you were given free housing and half
      your car was paid for you aswell as your future wedding. They also had just finished a man made
      canal for trade and were on the verge of setting up their own bank that printed their own money for
      their own people aswell as their oil profits going to help their own people and not fight wars for your
      zionist parasites that feed from your withering carcass.
      Thankfully the russians are helping the democratically elected assad party by providing spetnaz security forces.
      No amount of cia weapons and mercenaries can help them now, too bad libya didn't have such an ally near by.
      This is the whole point, russia and china are being surrounded by nuke bases and they are now biulding
      nuclear shelters like crazy for their people, just like the israelis are.
      Any being biult for you? no just fema camps by the hundreds with plastic coffins waiting for you when you finally wake
      up to your government being completely in the control of corporate and foreign banks hands and ofcourse all
      the dual citizens of israel that run your supreme court and congress and banking system.
      Notice the countries being invaded do not have american bases on them.
      Please take your tyrant bs with you to the toilet and flush it because we the internet generation are waking
      up to your bs. Be the time the nwo is in place your economy will be finished and you will be working for
      minimum wage and food stamps.
      All these invasions and wars are pointless. Remember vietnam, why were they invaded?
      Pretend weapons of mass destruction? How many people have to die so that the super rich and zionists can
      control the planet and form a one world government from israel. Have you seen their supreme court?
      its in the shape of a freakin pyramid. They are the eye at the top with their federal reserve and accomplices in corporate crime underneath followed by us serfs.
      So consider that you and your children owe 40000 dollars each in national debt because your owners war
      for the planet and resources for the rich while your quality of life deteriorates and your moral valus are defiled
      with zionist tv. I don't watch tv anymore because the internet is the only place were you can see the truth.
      check out rense dot com and start waking up, it'll take a year or two, or you can go back to watching your
      demagogues on tv like jon steward and the rest of the zionists that you flap your mouth's too while they
      defile your religion and produce anti christian tv and piss on images of jesus.
      Please wake up to yourself, you already live in a police state and soon you will have no guns either,
      they took our guns away in australia with a tidy false flag by a half retard who was apparently a sniper ace.
      Remember the norway sniper? guess what they were protesting against on the day? thats right apartheid in palestien.
      I suggest googling false flag attacks by cia and mossad since they work hand in hand and see for yourself.
      Main stream zionist media will not show you any of this, only the free and open internet can show you the truth.
      Hollywood are desperately trying to destroy the internet, they are just another tentacle of the foreign owned
      puppet masters that brainwash you everyday. WAR IS PEACE PRECRIME NUKES WAR ON DRUGS.
      Have a nice day.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Reply
  5. NorCalMojo

    Not good for the rebels. I think a coup was their only hope.

    March 2, 2012 at 11:06 am | Reply
  6. Otis

    While the scum riot and kill in Afghanistan over the burning of Korans that were being used to relay messages between terrorists, wher is the "Moral Outrage" in the Arab world on this attacck on a mosque by the Assad regime in Syria? ... http://fb. me/ 1qaogYhFS

    If you want to protest against Assad regime in Syria, this is what happens. WARNING the end of this clip is gruesome... Mortar attack on protestors in Homs 2012-03-02
    http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=SMfXFu5ZbqM

    And here is a continuation of he above mortar attack on protestors in Homs. WARNING: Extremely gruesome ... 2012-03-02 ... http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=JjcK6pSSsGA&feature=youtu.be

    March 2, 2012 at 10:47 am | Reply
    • Otis

      Sorry for the typos. And to view the vids, you must close the spaces in the lins.

      March 2, 2012 at 10:48 am | Reply
  7. Paul "Barry" Karn

    I farted in bed but it turned out to be diarrhea.

    March 2, 2012 at 10:38 am | Reply
    • Feltch


      March 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Reply
  8. kommy

    In the news, Syrians caught about 100 French military in Homes, among them 1 colonel, 18 sargents, the rest are special forces. The intention is to hang them head down and let the weather to take the course.

    Also caught about 70 french-treained Lebanise paramilitray.

    March 2, 2012 at 10:22 am | Reply
    • Otis

      Kommy: Where did you find this info?

      March 2, 2012 at 10:50 am | Reply
      • Socrates

        I read the same story in the Jerusalem Post. Bibi, the transvestite confirmed the news.

        March 2, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Joe

      A couple of them escaped dressed as journalists.

      March 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Reply
    • Feltch

      I'm seeing both 'captured' and 'detained'.

      March 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Reply
  9. Jeb

    The western gov'ts condemn syria for the fighting that is hurting people in some cities and then hypocritically support the rebels that are creating the fighting. So stop supporting the insurgents. Seems like a simple solution.

    March 2, 2012 at 9:30 am | Reply
    • joelpeter

      except that they are fighting for freedom and democracy which the US supports.

      March 2, 2012 at 9:40 am | Reply
      • Eric

        USA is supporting the rebels, and a big part of these rebels are al-Qaeda terrorists which are not fighting for democracy and freedom of choice. The al-Assad regime is secular and are for religious freedom, the rebels are religious fundamentalists. Wake up folks and stop being manipulated by the media whores.

        March 2, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Assad is a dead man

      Seems like a simple solution to the simple-minded.

      March 2, 2012 at 10:27 am | Reply
    • NorCalMojo

      Joel, If you really believe that's what they're fighting for, could I interest you in buying the golden gate bridge?

      In the Middle East, democracy=majority rules=sharia. That's what they're fighting for.

      March 2, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
  10. Jew Lover

    What's wrong with wanting the Jews to be free? You hater.

    March 2, 2012 at 9:17 am | Reply
    • Jew Lover

      I hate zionists

      March 2, 2012 at 9:38 am | Reply
  11. Thomas Henley

    What a clever way (US Congressional hearings) to pretend the CIA isn't already arming Syrian groups. It's also a poor way (the regime is not fractured) of not coming out and saying that the opposition within Syria by Syrians against the present regime is greatly exagerated.

    March 2, 2012 at 8:42 am | Reply
    • norm

      Arming the rebels or whoever they are....is balancing the issue in syria...
      at least....

      March 2, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
      • USMC Semper Fi MF

        Yeah, let's arm Hezbollah and even the conflict in Palestine and Lebanon. I'm on the side of the oppressed and I want to see the dirty evil zionists get their long overdue ass-whoppjng. I want to see lots of dead zionists so they can know what they have been giving to the world. What comes around goes around. This time Iran is going to whoop the idf – and in doing so, it will show how much of a loser people these khazar-caca people are.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:10 am |
      • norm

        You can change your title name but we know who you are regardless... A shaven nazi defunct follower...
        zieg heil in your dungeon hatemonger...

        March 2, 2012 at 9:32 am |
      • Jew Lover

        Hey norm are you an American? Or are you an israeli zionists? If you're an American zionists, who are you most loyal to? israel or America??

        March 2, 2012 at 9:41 am |
  12. The Last American

    I feel sorry for the people in Syria that is being murdered every day , I wouldnt want to see anything like this happen to anyone . But i think its time America keeps there nose out of other countries and worry about getting America back on its feet ,

    March 2, 2012 at 8:39 am | Reply
    • norm

      If the UN decides to go to syria...the usa will have no choice but to go...

      March 2, 2012 at 8:42 am | Reply
      • American Boy Scout

        The whole world hates israel

        March 2, 2012 at 8:49 am |
      • kebo72

        The US has the choice to stay out of it if they wanted to. UN doesn't dictate what the US does. It would just give them the "authority" to go in do the UN's deeds. Enough already. And McCain, shut the heck up. Next he'll be saying Obama armed the Syrian rebels and allowed them to become a radical Islamist society (see Egypt – next place we'll regret "liberating").

        March 2, 2012 at 9:16 am |
      • kebo72

        Sorry, meant Libya. But Egypt will soon be.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:20 am |
  13. norm

    The syrians are suffering greatly...we need to intervene.
    Of also great IMPORTANCE is that we need (Israel...with assist of USA) to intervene in IRAN which
    is building Nuclear missiles to be used agains Israel ( A second holocaust, nuclear style)...

    We are definitely in great trouble in 2012....!!

    March 2, 2012 at 8:36 am | Reply
    • zionism is the the Nazism of the 21st century

      We need you to Shut Your dirty zionist mouth up.

      Why don't you dirty evil zionists do it?

      Answer: You can't. And why is it that you dirty evil zionist can't do it?
      Answer: Iran will whoop your butts!

      If a tiny Hezabolla can whoop your idf baby-killing like they did in Lebanon, then how is the heck are you dirty evil idf women killing gutless-can't fight a real military?

      Name one zionist boxing champion? There isn't one. Name one zionst explorer? There isn't one.

      Historically, your dirty khazar crap people (your'e all not even real Jews) have only spawned on after all the wars have been fought, all the New World has been trail-blazed, and NEVER and I mean NEVER have you dirty khazsar people have done anything on your own, except exploit everyone's greed.

      So STFU caca-bitch!

      March 2, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply
      • norm

        You must be a shaved nazi organization follower....Anyways...you have it wrong...
        BEFORE iran builds their nuke bombs....Israel will neutralize the koran radical followers..

        Then whats you gonna do? Maybe cry?

        March 2, 2012 at 9:00 am |
      • norm

        Hezbollah , is how it is spelled. Regardless, your point of view is pointless...only showing your
        ignorance and being a hate monger..Do us a favor and go back to your flag carrying nazi shaved
        followers and zeig heil in your basement.. Thank you!

        March 2, 2012 at 9:03 am |
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        If I do, it will be in the US of A. You, on the other hand, you're in some nast-ass idf hole in tel-aviv.

        so STFU little sissy. I know this: I can whoop you.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:15 am |
      • Jew Lover

        Your a racist POS. Can't wait till Israel Nukes IRAN and blows it off the map. Syria is next. USA USA USA!!!!

        March 2, 2012 at 9:18 am |
      • Jew Lover

        yeah, I can't wait for WW3 – in the end the dirty evil zionists in illegal israel will get nuked by Pakistan, Russia and China.

        Boy, I can't wait!!

        March 2, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Beaver City Utah

      Who is we?

      March 2, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
  14. Chuk

    Right, again, Paul. The lesson learned was from Libya. Russia learned a huge lesson by being burned in Libya. Remember, the West was going in to protect civilians from "slaughter". When, all along, this was a regime change by the West all along, against Gadaffi they've always hated and was just waiting for an opportunity to get him.
    So now Russia will no longer trust the West, especially since they're pushing for nuclear weapons for only their friends.

    March 2, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
  15. Ben

    I think what is happening in Syria is terrible. But, it is clear that the majority of the army and a large portion of the cities where there is calm support him or at least to not feel the need to join in. This is not a revolution, this is a civil war and there is a big, big difference.

    March 2, 2012 at 8:03 am | Reply
    • norm

      civil war or not....NO one should accept children's arm legs, heads being blown off by bombs...
      if you dont care about that....well you are in a minority....thats the problem...we should care
      about children over there being maimed and terrified...

      March 2, 2012 at 8:16 am | Reply
      • nk

        This is nothing compared to the world wars or what we did to citizens in vienam. I'm afraid it is one aspect of war that is almost unavoidable.

        March 2, 2012 at 8:40 am |
      • Joe

        We do care. This is why it's a good thing all those rebel terrorist are being wiped out so that they can't do all the horrible things to children.

        March 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  16. Jay

    We have so many issues in our own country that we need to stop worrying what is going on in "ALL" the other countries. I am sorry for what is happening there but when do we get time for "US". If the US Army is drawing down (Laying Off) troops, whet makes the US Government think they can afford another major opperation. We all know NATO will never take care of a world problem on their own, so that leaves us to handle this, right? No, if we are unable to staop civil war thats been going on way before we were a country, what makes the US Government think we can fix this also. I say, leave them alone and stop reporting about them.

    March 2, 2012 at 7:55 am | Reply
    • grafixer

      Now that the Iraq war is over, so are the non-bid contracts that made millions (if not billions) for the likes of Haliburton. We are also slated to pull out of Afghanistan too. Don't you think the politicians that are owned by these massive corporations (the top rich, essentially) will press to stay in a war on behalf of their owner/donors? Seriously. We need to get the Citizen's United decision overturned, or we will always be at war, and 98% of Americans will pay for it.

      March 2, 2012 at 8:10 am | Reply
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        Let's start the American Spring today! We must take back our country from these zionist parasites!

        We real American patriots need to round up every zionists in our city, state and federal governments – give then all a quick trial – and then shoot every one of them – starting with the obama regime, hillary clinton and the fed reserve, supreme court, most of congress, and every zionist CNN, fox news, nbc, cbs, Washington Post, NYTimes executives – ROUND THEM ALL UP AND PUT UP AGAINST A WALL.



        March 2, 2012 at 8:58 am |
  17. Bud Wiser

    Don't arm the rebels, stay the heII out of Syria. The insurgency isn't even supported by most of the population. America has no right to arbitrarily overthrow sovereign governments. It'll just lead up to ANOTHER world war

    March 2, 2012 at 7:53 am | Reply
    • Deee

      Yes Bud, I agree. I don't see how putting a bunch of weapons in the hands of untrained civilians is going to do much good. Have you watched any videos of these guys running around shooting at each other? It's clear that they have no idea what they are doing.

      March 2, 2012 at 9:03 am | Reply
    • Total2199

      Absolutely correct. Arming those rebels is the same as arming Al Qaeda. Always remember how these people were dancing on the streets after 9/11. It is only grandfather McCain has a sclerotic memory....

      March 2, 2012 at 9:32 am | Reply
      • Lilbit

        Syrians did NOT dance in the streets after 9/11. Just because you saw it in a few other places does not mean that all Muslims celebrated it. The radical Muslims make up only 1% of all Muslims.

        March 2, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  18. JAL

    Many thanks to American outsourcing that bolsterd Chinese confidence enough to stand with Assad!

    March 2, 2012 at 7:47 am | Reply
  19. JB

    Why not be fair about this whole mess? Arm the Syrian rebels, after all we've already armed the Mexican drug lords. No need to change our nation creating/destroying policies now.

    March 2, 2012 at 7:24 am | Reply
    • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

      JB is a zionst propagandists plane and simple.

      March 2, 2012 at 9:00 am | Reply
    • norm

      JB....Agree wholeheartedly...
      please ignore the shaved nazi comments ...from you know who...just a hatemonger...

      March 2, 2012 at 9:05 am | Reply
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        Your'e propaganda is sooooo weak, Norm.

        But remember this: I hate you. I hate zionism. – and it takes a hater to know a hater.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:21 am |
  20. norm

    THE 7500 people KILLED in syria,,,,although mad assad is guilty BUT MORE TO THE POINT....

    The UN is more guilty in the killings of families, children, reporters etc..... by not intervening although russia/china
    vetoed. The stain of blood of innocent syrians in on the UN shoulders... Talk talk talk talk....that is all the UN does..!!!

    March 2, 2012 at 6:50 am | Reply
    • Jonathan

      Why is it the U.N.'s job to intervene when a few thousand people have died? Don't get me wrong it's sad. But it's a mere blimp on the radar that die everyday due to malnourished and disease. The Syrian's have their own country for a reason. So they can do what they want. Just like we do. Maybe these truly were rebels. For all we know. We are halfway across the world seeing the conflict through the lens of the media. Maybe they aren't rebels and the regime really is cracking down on protesters and defectors. Who really cares. You are so in tune with the American government as soon as you hear those war drums start beating your blood gets going. Oh the innocent people being bombed, Oh my. As if people don't die everyday all over the world anyways. That is war. Yet you want to take the Western world to war to stop a conflict that hasn't even become a war..... brilliant.

      March 2, 2012 at 7:30 am | Reply
      • norm

        More brilliant is the fact that you accept children's head being blown off in syria...very astute..very uncaring...

        March 2, 2012 at 8:14 am |
      • Norm

        I don't care if the zionists in israel bombs and murder the innocent children in Gaza, but I do care if children die in Syria.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Joe

      Where did you get the 7500 figure from ? Did you pull it out of the a$$ ?

      March 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Reply
  21. Andrew

    Look at CNN's miracle man Danny exposed as the fake he is. Press cc to see subtitles

    March 2, 2012 at 6:13 am | Reply
  22. eduardo

    do we really need to go there? , do we really need to get ourselves in to middle east again?
    let them fix their problems. the US has many many things to fix in their own nation, why does our goverment have to care for other nation. let them help them self.

    March 2, 2012 at 5:18 am | Reply
    • norm

      This type of thinking is just what the world needs....I dont care attitude...!
      What if the United states was in a similar situation...dont you think other countries like canada would help..

      This mental attitude is why the world is in chaos....I DONT CARE... Well start caring , then the world will be a better
      place to live!..

      March 2, 2012 at 6:53 am | Reply
      • Jonathan

        Ha the "I don't care" attitude isn't why the world is in as you say chaos. For one if this is chaos you are going to be crying in a corner when real chaos hits. The world has always been crazy. Always been war, minor disagreements blowing up, governments killing protesters. Nothing new here. Just because they American gov't has you convinced of their illusion that the world is warm and fuzzy doesn't mean it is. And it's not so much as an I don't care attitude as it is a sorry I am broke attitude. Are we really going to throw our country into even a deeper financial crisis to save a few thousand Syrian's? I understand if true mass genocide was being committed but it's not. Things a million times worse have been going on in Sudan and Sri Lanka for decades. No one wanted to help stop those wars.

        March 2, 2012 at 7:35 am |
      • norm

        The point is Jonathan..... Once we stop caring about the innocents over there, is when we cease to be
        a civilized humanity...

        The UN should act regardless of russia/china objections...Period.

        March 2, 2012 at 8:19 am |
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        If you follow Norm's comments he posts on these boards, you'll see he is an idf idiot!

        March 2, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • mariner I

      Any action, should only be taken with the support of the world community. It is time for the world community to act as a united front to confrontations of this sort. It is time for the US to stop unilateral actions in the world while picking up the costs of those actions, while the rest of the world sits comfortably in their perspective homelands. This is a new age where the concept of working together must mean more than lip service in dealing with global issues.

      March 2, 2012 at 7:00 am | Reply
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        So many idf propagandists are now working overtime to spread hate and fear. Hey mariner fag, how do you feel about the zionists killing innocent women and children in Gaza?

        Why don't you post some tea-jerking comments on how "The World" should go in and bomb israel for imprisoning 1.7 million innocent people in a mass concentration camp?

        You're a liar mariner and your'e going to hell!

        March 2, 2012 at 9:04 am |
  23. Wow No Kidding

    Many Americans didn't need an official to tell us Assad wasn't going anywhere, that he wasn't going to bow out. McCain and the rest of our warmonger politicians – this includes our media propaganda machine – need to butt out. Assad has the backing of his people and his army. If the Arab League wants to do something about Syria then let them do it, we are not the world police

    March 2, 2012 at 3:57 am | Reply
    • mariner I

      I agree in so far as they are just reporting what is already known. What they need to do, while the house is burning down, is to take decisive action to address what we already know. This can only be done with the consolidated force of the world community or it will be business as usual. I also agree that we have to stop playing the same historical role that we have played while picking up all the bills. We are all connected in the truest sense of the word and so with this reality comes different responsibilities. That is why it is imperative that we act as a world community to address these issues. We don't need more words here..... we need deeds. But, we need to do it with the collected force of the world community for it to have lasting value. In other words, to respond to these types of atrocities with a united front, as a world community and with the distinction of changing the way we do business on the global landscape.

      March 2, 2012 at 7:12 am | Reply
      • Either Round-Up All The zionsts and Shoot Them or Come On WW3 Baby

        I don't agree. Real Americans don't give one flip for what is going on. CNN is only stoking the hatred you dirty evil zionists are causing. The whole world hates israel.

        March 2, 2012 at 9:06 am |
      • Wow No Kidding

        No we don't need to intervene, the Arab League needs to take care of this. All we need is another US created power vacuum in the Middle East. We don't even know what the rebels stand for and from the circulating reports there are terrorist elements working within the rebel movement. Do you really want to give arms and money to al Qaeda once again? Americans are tired of footing the bill for fighting other country's wars and our failed attempts at forcing democracy down the throats of every nation without a democratic government – it's not like our government is the model of perfection. Our deficit is too high and we have our own problems. And while I'm on the subject America's influence in the world is waning, accept it and move on. Stay out of Syria.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  24. pwstatz1121

    OK, so I am in favor of creating Nazi style camps in Syria. Lets round up as many opposition, enemies of the state, and work the healthy ones to death and the others be sent to "special treatment". Sieg Heil Assad

    March 2, 2012 at 3:16 am | Reply
    • Bianca

      This is abusive language, but CNN does not mind, for as long as you are politically correct.
      We need BADLY Ron Paul. But we do not deserve a smart man like him. We have just degenerated into a bunch of irresponsible drones, ready to pounce the moment our dear leaders tell us who is the bad guy.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
  25. Richard

    Nothing will get done until the cowards Arab League and coward Arabs step up. It's so much easier to sit back and do nothing, or wait the for the US to intervene, then stab us in the back afterward. It's so much more constructive to chant Death to America, and send suicide bombers and rockets in to Israel, rather than stop the slaughter of fellow Arabs.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:53 am | Reply
    • Andrew

      You keep getting "stabbed" in the back because you keep stabbing everyone in the front, so they know who did it 🙂

      March 2, 2012 at 6:36 am | Reply
  26. pwstatz1121

    Now wait a minute! The Syrian government says that it is a minor uprising and everything is under control. The US, EU and the UN are lying about Syria and Iran. So in the tradition of CNN and their bloggers, I must side with Iran and Syria since they are victims of a ruthless world. As the US does not have an organized propaganda machine like Iran and Syria, I have to believe the information that spews from Syria and Iran. I pray that the opposition in Syria gets destroyed, Nazi style, since that is the way we are heading.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:52 am | Reply
    • Bianca

      My, are you confused! Ever heard of the Office of Narrative Management? We do not have coordinated propaganda? All of the papers in the West write from the same script, and you have not noticed that? We still have access to some foreign TV for information, who talk to some real people on the ground. But how long will that last?

      March 2, 2012 at 3:58 am | Reply
    • Andrew

      Keep taking the blue pill

      March 2, 2012 at 6:38 am | Reply
    • Mudstock

      Well Thats an intelligent Stance. So Assad is your IDOL I take it. Nazi Style? You should go join the Nazis then. It needs to stop.

      March 2, 2012 at 7:39 am | Reply
  27. bribarian

    zi0nists tried and failed

    March 2, 2012 at 2:49 am | Reply
    • ConcernedNetizen

      The U.S. is never happy until another country destabilizes itself into a "Libya-like" situation. In fact it would probably be best if this were to happy... oh i duno... every 18 months or so. For vary... economic.. reasons.. ahem.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:49 am | Reply
  28. Aja

    McCain has proven once again why he's not fit to be in office. We cannot arm the rebels. There are almost quarter of a million Christians in Syria who are being killed right now by the rebels because of their faith. The Christians support Assad. The rebels do not. Arming the rebels would lead to an even bigger massacre. Please put McCain in a nursing home where he belongs.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:38 am | Reply
    • eli

      who cares about quarter or even a million christians , did US care about christians in Irak ?

      March 2, 2012 at 3:14 am | Reply
      • Bianca

        Of course not. Syria has the highest standard of education in the Middle East. It has most women working in the Middle East. Most women who have businesses, are heads of administration, hospitals, schools. There is no "dress code" for women. No restriction on their movement, driving, getting out of country, etc. Compare that to Saudi Arabia. How many Christian Churches are there in Saudi Arabia? Zero. And they are against the law there. Try our other frineds, like bloodthirsty Bahrain rulers that put 80% of population under virtual house arrest. Now that is REAL tragedy and real murderous regime. But to pick on the ONLY PROGRESSIVE REGIME STILL LEFT IN THE ARAB WORLD IS SICK.
        I know that some would LOVE to have Syria as a base to hit Iran from, but it may not happen. You cannot hit your head into wall. It hurts. Give it up.

        March 2, 2012 at 4:04 am |
  29. John

    This "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" thinking has gotten us into trouble so many times in the past, most recently and most obviously, Sadam Hussein, and Osama Bin Laden. Arming the rebels is not the right thing to do unless we have a very good idea that their leadership is going to create a better, democratic society, that acknowledges some basic human rights. Time after time in the "Arab Spring" the dictator is toppled and in its place, a theocratic society crops up, which is going to be worse in the long run.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:25 am | Reply
    • American of Syrian descent

      Apparently you haven't conducted your research. Riad al-Assad is the name of the head of the armed opposition. He is currently being housed in Turkey, the second largest member of NATO. He has already stated that he considers all Syrians of all religious and ethnic groups, family. I think the US and her NATO ally should strongly consider imposing a no fly zone in order to encourage mass defections.

      March 2, 2012 at 2:39 am | Reply
      • Garth

        And who's to say that Al Qaeda won't seize the initiative and turn Syria into another Afghanistan? Recent history has shown us that while Americans have very grand ideas for democracy blooming in the Middle East, the people of the Middle East have had other ideas.

        March 2, 2012 at 8:06 am |
  30. toadears

    This man appears to have blue eyes. Who knew? another blue eyed devil.

    March 2, 2012 at 2:08 am | Reply
    • Choco monster

      They call him che whitey

      March 2, 2012 at 2:28 am | Reply
      • Bianca

        Please stop your racist posts. I know that CNN censors information that is not in line with the spin they desire. But while CNN is taking time and trouble to censor, it never checks for vile racism, violent and abusive language, etc. I hope you know that Syria has many faces, and your strereotypes of "Arabs" are showing.

        Shame on you, and shame on CNN.

        March 2, 2012 at 2:59 am |
    • malik

      He is not your type...dream on.

      March 2, 2012 at 7:28 am | Reply
  31. The Rock

    This Assman guy is a real piece of work. Sure I read the last post where this idiot says the usual Anti USA and Qatar(?) things, but I really do think that the best solution for the people of Syria is for the SEALS to go in surreptitiously and kill the fucker before more innocent folk are mudered.

    March 2, 2012 at 1:46 am | Reply
    • Bianca

      Sober up, please. And who do you think your fantasy action is going to benefit. Your heros - it has just been found out - have been killing people in Homs! They used them as hostages! Now that they have been removed from Aba Amr district - people there have PLENTY TO SAY about the nice people we are trying so hard to get to power.

      Have a look at Libya? How is that working out for you? People are now subjected to horrors they have not seen before during forty years of the Dictator. Guess why the press is not going there? Because the airports are controlled by clans. Tripoli International Airport is controlled by Zintan clan. They "own it", and they are the "security". All neighborhoods in Libya are divided as a loot among clans. They pillage, rob, rape and kill. This is YOUR idea of democracy? What kinds of animals have we put in power there? Is that what is planned for Syria?

      There will be reports coming to UN from Homs, now that the militants have been stopped. What has already come out is BLOOD CURLING. These are OUR folks, the democracy champions? Many journalists that are there have already talked to people, and I am sure that if UN tries to actually get some work done, it will document what these people did to poor residents of Homs. So much for Government "killing its own people". If we keep up like this, we will have some explaining to do. "Our" people are doing the killing. But judging from information on CNN, as if nothing has happened. As if over EIGHT MILLION of Syrians did not go out to polls to vote on a referendum. It is as if Homs is still "attacked by the Government", even after the poor abused people of Homs got finally out from being hostages.

      Every partisanship must have its limits. There is such thing as truth, and the right of people NOT to be attacked by armed, masked gangs. And the right of Government to protect them. This is not Hollywood black and white movie.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:12 am | Reply
    • CHOCO

      Your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory, The only rock u have is in ur head. Tu es un gros nulard couillon (dickhead)

      March 2, 2012 at 5:01 am | Reply
  32. No Muslim Brothers

    It's sounding like it's mandatory for Syrians to hate their president. If he has the majority supporting him how is that irritating Mrs Clinton? The violence erupted when armed rebels by Qatar and US infiltrated in big numbers to Homs. Prior to that the regime wasn't parading with tanks in the streets.

    March 2, 2012 at 12:32 am | Reply
    • CHOCO

      Can anyone explain WHY the US is helping Muslim groups In Norh africa (Libya, Tunisia, Egypt) and the the Middle East of course not directly ( proxy Qatar) @ the same time talking about democracy. Knowing that Muslin groups believe in the Shariaa!!! I'm lost.

      March 2, 2012 at 2:03 am | Reply


    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsAcflDDrO8&w=420&h=315%5D

    March 2, 2012 at 12:12 am | Reply
  34. Jaber

    U.S. sees "no fracturing" of Assad regime
    Of course not, because many people support him and that what the US is NOT getting. It's like saying the tea party wants to change Mr. Obama. Is Mr. Obama going to resign immediately? I'm Syrian from Homs. In Homs he still have many supporters. What Mrs Clinton is NOT getting that everyone in Syria hates Syrian National Council led by Galioun. We initially wanted change but when the US & NATO favoured Galioun versus other liberal -not islamist- opposition parties most Syrians switched back to Assad. Galioun is affiliated with Muslim brothers and Syrians do not want Muslim brothers in power like in Egypt and Tunisa. Hence, U.S. sees "no fracturing" of Assad regime. The more Mrs. Clinton supports Galioun the more Syrians are going to unite around their president.

    March 2, 2012 at 12:03 am | Reply
    • Pat


      You forgot to mention that the Syrian army is made-up of 83% Alaouites, when Alaouites form only 10% of the population. The Assad regime, since the 1960's, has built a sectarian army to protect the regime first. 90% of the syrian population want Assad gone.

      You also forgot to tell the American public that Assad is an ally of Iran and a defacto ennemy of the US and Israel. The only reason why Israel may want the Assad regime to stay put is because of a deal between them. The deal is: as long as the Assad regime does not make any wars against Israel, Assad can stay in place and the hell with freedom.

      Now, 90% of the silent Syrian population has risen. It is the beginning of the end for Assad and cronies. With the arming of the Free Syrian Army, this is good for the US. Why, when helping freedom loving people in Syria, the US can clamp on Iran and Hezbollah. No more arms to Hezbollah. This will remove any war making capability out of Hezbollah.

      Good day.

      March 2, 2012 at 5:08 am | Reply


    March 1, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Reply
    • Pat

      Assad and company will fail because they represent less than 10% of the Syrian population. 90% of the Syrian population do not want the Assad regime. However, since the 1960's, the Assad regime has built a sectarian army of which 83% of them are Alaouites. This is the problem. The Syrians are nice people and they let their freedom slide by. Now, they want it back but Assad, and Iranian sympathiser is clinging to power with the help of Iran, Hezbollah, Russia, and China.
      Let this be a lesson to America. China moved from a third rate power in the early 1990's to a world economic superpower with the help of Western companies looking for cheap labor. What happens if China decides to wage war on America? In my book, patriotism is not a lapelle button; patriotism is what you do for your country. All the western companies in China are traitors o their countries.

      March 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Reply
  36. clinky

    I have often wondered why some confidant of a brutal dictator like Assad doesn't blow his head off, even if it means sacrificing his own life to do it. There were attempts on Hitler's life and the conspirators understood the risks they were running. Assassination is seldom called for, only under the direst circumstances like under Hussein, Ghaddafi and Assad. Since no one would fill Assad's shoes in Syria, there is even more reason to cripple his regime by taking out the guy at the very top.

    March 1, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Reply
    • Bianca

      And who are you to recommend such things? These kinds of things used to be against the law in US. How low have we sunk!

      March 2, 2012 at 3:17 am | Reply
      • Evgeniy

        I grew up in a communist courtny .people will have no idea their neighbors will snitch on them .bye piracy! my parents tried to bring me to a courtny where there was Freedom I rather die on my feet then live on my knees!

        June 28, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
  37. WhereisyourAllahnow

    Where is your Allah now? Exactly! Islam is a lie! Religion is a fairytale! You Muslims live an extreme lie and because of your insecurity and ignorance of reality you must accept what you sow. Get out of the dark ages and wake up to reality, understand that you are the problem with achieving peace on earth and it is evident with what you do to each other everyda. If its not Assad it's al Qaeda, if it's not one man with a bomb vest murdering innocent people it's a group of men flying planes into buildings mudrering innocent people. You do not need the help from the civilized world you need to wake up from your ignorance, dispose of your islam, and join civilization. Period!

    March 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Reply
    • Menos

      Put a sock in it atheist troll. The situation in Syria has less to do with religion and more to do with the universal struggle for power that exists everywhere and throughout human history. Islam obviously factors in to the dynamics in that part of the world, but it's not the central plot of this story, which of course you would pick up on if you weren't as pathetic an extremist as the closed minded religious fanatics that you loathe so much. How can you not see that your blind faith in your "ism" is as stubborn and silly as any other? You know nothing and can prove nothing about the existence or nonexistence of an Intelligent Source of Being. All you have is your small minded opinion. Nothing more or less.

      March 2, 2012 at 1:13 am | Reply
      • William

        Oh, so aren't you the pseudo-intellectual sounding type? You spew out a few parallel sentences to make it sound intelligent, and then bash other people to make yourself look better. *ucking LAMER!

        March 2, 2012 at 3:29 am |
    • Bianca

      Syria is one of the most educated countries in Middle East. This is the place where women have rights. They work and have jobs. There is no "dress code" for women. I guess this is why Saudi Arabia is so keen to get this regime ended. It makes them look really bad by comparison.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:19 am | Reply
  38. vinny

    No. As an American citizen who has seen this dance play out before, I dont want our troops or our guns anywhere near it. They'll only find a reason to hate us in 2 years anyway. Go away John McCain. This is coming from a Conservative. Stay out of this area of the world. Nothing good comes from us being involved

    March 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Reply
  39. anon

    Stratfor emails

    "the emails support the growing awareness that the Obama administration, far from diverging from the secrecy of the Bush/Cheney era, is obsessed with secrecy, and is aggressively opposed to transparency"

    March 1, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Reply
    • Bianca

      And that is new? But being the darling of the "progressive" and "intellectual" elite, whatever he does is now
      NEW NORMAL. He has elevated what Bush did - and was condemned for - into an acceptable, even lighhearted modern, yes-we-can kind of levity.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:22 am | Reply
  40. clandestine

    The Chinese played the "alien moon base" card. They threatened to expose the core of US secrecy and showed they were serious by leaking lunar probe video showing an alleged alien base on the moon. The UFO phenomenon and recovered artifacts that fuel the US tech boom. The US folded. The US will probably switch sides now, that's how explosive information can be, of this nature.

    March 1, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      clandestine I say this with the utmost concern before you hurt someone, you need to seek help. CNN I'm not sure if you can do anything or warn anyone but obviously this man is troubled and I don't want there to be a story about not seeing the warning signs again.

      March 2, 2012 at 12:47 am | Reply
    • Ed Sanborn

      Clandestine, where is your source for the Chinese leaking alien moon base reference?

      March 2, 2012 at 10:20 am | Reply
  41. Steve

    al-Assad is a puppet. The Syrian army generals have the real power. Do you think they would massacre so many people for Assad? No way. Israel also likes the old arrangement. The Syrian generals know how to behave with Israel. With a new regime nothing is given. We are not helping on Israeli orders. They already have problems dealing with Egypt.
    "People deserve the government they have" unless it is imposed by outside forces. (Iraq, Afghanistan) The same was true with our Bush-Cheney regime. They killed more US citizens in Iraq and Afghanistan than the Syrian generals killed people in Syria.

    March 1, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Reply
    • Jim

      This is what bothers me so much, everyone is demanding Al Assads head but what about the monsters on the ground, the generals making the brutal orders to kill innocent women and children, have lunch, then kill or capture and rape some more. What disgusts me is if they went scott free whether Assad goes or stays. I would rather an attack on the military on the ground by Homs than at Assads palace.

      March 2, 2012 at 12:50 am | Reply
      • Bianca

        Enough of your robbotic "innocent women and children". All people who are killed by anybody for their political fanaticism are innocent - not only "women and children". And the worst of the worst are THUGs that took advantage of the simple protests, like the ones going on daily in Greece for more then a year - to take guns and demand power! And Syrians did not demonstrate any more, realizing that these morans with guns are about to push the country into civil war. And of course, it is easy. First they killed police, mostly Allawite, making it look like Sunni did it. Expecting revenge by Alawites. This is where the Syrian army had to step in, and prevent these PROVOCATORS from lighting fuse among population. What will happen in our country if a bunch of idiots in the name of democracy started killing people of particular race of religion? That would for sure ignite revenge killings, hurting again some innocent people just for being who they are.

        March 2, 2012 at 3:31 am |
  42. hello

    Well of course the regime hasn't fractured yet, it is propped up by the Asiatic autocracies of China, Russia, and Iran.

    Syria is the first battleground of the new cold war; it is essential that the West supports the anti-assad forces in whatever ways possible.

    By the way- Does Russia's collusion with China in supporting assad mean that Brzezinski's vision of a Westward-drifting Russia will not come to fruition? Is Russia's veto an anomaly, or a sign of things to come?

    March 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Reply
    • Andy H

      The US has a problem, its in a standoff with Russia mainly it seems.

      March 1, 2012 at 11:14 pm | Reply
    • Bianca

      Brzezinski? You read his previous masterpiece, The Grand Chessboard? What has come of that?
      The man with an ego of Mt. Everest cannot take RESPONSIBLITY for what he recommended then. He bemoans the decline of US power, and keeps on hoping that West can be "expanded" by "sucking in" Russia and somehow, "adopting" Turkey.

      Not that this is not possible, but... For one, US would have to act like a responsible international citizen, not arm thugs like the ones in Libya - that now pillage and rape their way to "democracy". And stop supporting the most oppresive regimes on planet today (proof is for all to see), like Saudi Arabia, Gulf fiefdoms, like Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, Yemen's inheritors of Saleh, etc. etc. Need we say more?
      We are a culture that arose out of the eradication of the native population and see the world in similar context. Russians, Chinese, Latinos, Africans, A-rabs, etc. are just Indians, and all we need are some beads and mirrors, booze and guns, and they will all fight among themselves.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:43 am | Reply
  43. Ray

    Yeah... U.S needs to focus on her own people and problems; while Syria's sister countries need to help out.... However, it is sad hearing people,( innocent civilians, children... babies) suffer and die for someone who only cares for himself. =I

    March 1, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Reply
    • mindyourbiz

      81% of Israelis Oppose Unilateral Strike on Iran

      March 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Reply
    • Adam

      It is what opposition is trying to tell us but we already know that they are only a minority in Syria. Majority of Syrians don't want an armed conflict and accept the current changes which have limited the number of times president can run for office. That means that Assad will go by popular will and not by armed gangs Qatar and Saudi Arabia want to arm. These same who don't a constitution, are kings for life and still the wealth of their people. Wonder why we help Qatar and Saudi Arabia? Because we can do anything we want with their enslaved people.

      March 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Reply
    • Bianca

      Again poor women, children, and someone who only cares for himself. And who is that? As far as I know the militants that were holed inside Aba Amr neighborhood of Homs, are how gone, and people - who were their hostages have PLENTY TO SAY ABOUT THE NICE PEOPLE WE LIONIZE AS FIGHTERS FOR DEMOCRACY. It makes me sick!

      March 2, 2012 at 3:45 am | Reply
  44. FHTEX

    Folks, the show's over ... the rebels lost their last foothold in Syria and Assad and his new constitution (along with new opposition parties) will be around for a long time. In the end, the Syrian people didn't want a replay of Lybia, when NATO mercenaries destroyed one of the most prosperous and peaceful nations of Africa. If Ambassador Ford doesn't want to work with Assad, he shouldn't be ambassador anymore!

    March 1, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Reply
    • Adam

      Wise man. You should be the adviser to the US government. I think they are hiring crocks who are only spreading lies and misguiding the leaders using Americans tax payers at a time we need to concentrate on our economy. That Ghaliun is a pathetic professor of nothing in France. He is trying to gain popularity for a role in Syria but to be honest as a Syrian put it, he will be hanged by his own people if he was to return to Syria.

      March 1, 2012 at 10:55 pm | Reply
  45. Joe

    So CNN's war mongering effort has failed. What next ? Promote Danny to the new rebel leader ?

    March 1, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Reply
    • Andy H

      This seems alot like russia and sepratists vs georgia and us.

      March 1, 2012 at 10:30 pm | Reply
    • Adam

      Joe, this is a propaganda war that will lead nowhere. Its is like the Iraq failure and the Afghan trap which we got ourselves in and don't know how to withdraw without painful regrets. Syria will not fall and nether Qatar nor Saudi Arabia will topple Assad regime which is supported by its people and its army. The opposition we have been arming are sent to be killed, let's weight that moral choice.

      March 1, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Reply
  46. Yusuf

    Why not send mercenaries to Syria

    March 1, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Reply
    • Leave Syria Alone

      As long as yopu are paying....go for it.

      March 1, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Reply
    • Adam

      Maybe you be one of them. Kiss you kids and your wife goodbye and write your will before you go. You may not even be buried but most probably eating by dogs.

      March 1, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Reply
    • Bianca

      You pay for it. Or better yet, go yourself. Now, I am afraid that those that have just been cleared out of Homs were mercenaries. I just hope it came out of our friend Sarkozy's taxpayers, not our money. After all, Syria was once French colony, so France is hoping to reapeat Ivory Coast scenario with ousting president there.

      March 2, 2012 at 3:49 am | Reply
  47. Mihaela

    Stay out of Syria, leave the people to decide. Both sides have their own agenda, Islamist wanted Assad out, Saudis wahabis wanted him out and replaced by their puppets...and al Qaeda is involved as well. Hillary Clinton is doing the Saudis dirty job: giving those so called opposition rebel forces arms it would be very foolish as they are in contact with al Qaeda.

    March 1, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Reply

    syrian army,bab amr

    March 1, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Reply
  49. Leave Syria Alone

    Syrians need to look to Russia for help.....they are a Russian problem.....the USA never got anything from Syrians except "fukyou" before....so, let them turn to Russia whom they have always preferred in the past.

    March 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Reply
  50. Yusuf

    Will not send mercenaries to Syria

    March 1, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Reply
  51. TruthWolf Bruno

    Well Said Paul Just look at Libya Now What Mess NATO Created.

    March 1, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Reply
  52. Paul

    Not everyone thinks your freedom project is about freedom.

    March 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Reply
    • Anina

      If Cohen has something suinbasttve to tell us about why it is likely or unlikely for Israel to have murdered Hariri, he should write about that, rather than fall back on stereotypes about Arab conspiracy and paranoia. The US went to war in Iraq with the support of Roger Cohen and many others like him and this is not atypical of how people in the mainstream media react when our government claims someone is a threat and needs to be taken out. If we had a vibrant skeptical media that questioned authority in a serious way then maybe Cohen would have a right to ridicule conspiracy theories in the Arab world, but in the real world he doesn\'t have a leg to stand on. And again, I say this as someone who sees Cohen as somewhat (but only somewhat) repentant for his past mistakes.

      July 1, 2012 at 2:31 am | Reply

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