By Elise Labott, reporting from Rabat, Morocco
Criticism of President Barack Obama's apology for the burning of Qurans in Afghanistanis not helpful, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Sunday in a wide-ranging interview with CNN.
"I find it somewhat troubling that our politics would enflame such a dangerous situation in Afghanistan," Clinton said of the complaints by Republican presidential candidates and some experts about Obama's apology.
Obama apologized Thursday in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai for the burning of Qurans, which he called "inadvertent" and an "error."
"It was the right thing to do to have our president on record as saying this was not intentional, we deeply regret it," Clinton said.
At least four American troops have been killed in apparent revenge attacks in the past week, and dozens of Afghans have been killed or wounded in protests about the incident.
"We are hoping that voices inside Afghanistan will join that of President Karzai and others in speaking out to try to calm the situation," Clinton said. "It is out of hand and it needs to stop."
Clinton also said diplomatic efforts were under way to peel away support from Syria's President Bashar al-Assad.
"We have a lot of contacts, as do other countries - a lot of sources within the Syrian government and the business community and minority communities - and our message is the same to all of them: 'You cannot continue to support this illegitimate regime because it is going to fall,'" she said.
But she said the Syrian National Council was not yet the kind of united opposition movement that toppled Moammar Gadhafi with international help in Libya last year.
The Libyan opposition base in the city of Benghazi gave the international community "an address" to deal with.
"We don't have that in Syria," she said. "The Syrian National Council is doing the best it can but obviously it is not yet a united opposition."
Clinton also defended telling an audience in Tunisia Saturday that Obama would be re-elected.
"I was asked whether the comments in the primary campaign, some of which have been quite inflammatory, represented America," she said, adding that they did not necessarily. "I represent America."
As America's top diplomat, Clinton would not normally make political statements to a foreign audience.
"Probably my enthusiasm for the president got a little out of hand," Clinton said with a laugh.
But she said her comments were appropriate.
"I know what happens in campaigns. I've been there, done that, and I know that things are said that are not going to be put into practice or policy," she said. "I did think I needed to point that out to the audience."
Clinton ran for the Democratic nomination for president in 2008, losing out to Obama.
What goes around comes around. Dems set the FPCS (foriegn policy criticism standard) with Bush 2.
;Note to Barak Obama:
When you're dealing with Arabs and Muslims you NEVER apologize for ANYTHING! I'm disappointed that you don't have sense enough to know that already. Those guys look on anyone who appologises as being weak – and to be ridiculed and used.
Back in the '90s I was doing contract work for some of those towel heads. Out of about 1000 documents we lost 1. When we realized we didn't have it we appologized. Oh man! The s***t hit the fan! The crap we took after we appologized was ten times worse than what they said when they discovered we hadn't sent it back with the rest. We would have been a whole lot better off to do as they would do – roll our eyes and look up in the sky and say "Gee, I dunno what happened to it. You must be mistaken."
NEVER appologize to an towel head!
Wow. After the first sentence I was like "This guy kind of sounds racist, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because maybe he's just very knowledgeable about the people of the area." Thanks for clearing up any confusion I had with the second part!
You might want to apologize to your sister for knocking her up, though.
You sir, are a racist bigot. Why do you compare all muslims ad arabs with the barbaric mobs of the middle east and Asia. There are 6 million law-abiding tax-paying muslims in the US who contribute to this society. Comments like yours incite hatred and place our own citizens in danger. Why exactly are our troops still in Pipelinistan. Did you know that Karzai was a consultant to Unocol. Did you know that Unocol presented their pipeline plan to the US congress over 10 years ago and it is currently in the final stages of planning. How else do the oil-barons get the oil and gas from the Caspian sea to the world except through Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkey. Trillions of $$$$$$$ involved. And more people die every day from this insanity
U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN
REPUBLICS HEARING BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION
FEBRUARY 12, 1998
All my uncles were pipe liners through the 1950s to the 1990s. Everyone of them would tell stories about the Arabs and how they were homosexuals. They must have reread the Quaran or made new policy bc now they murder their homosexuals. They could never get over how their camels, dogs, chickens meant more to them than their or wives and daughters. When a religion teaches it's followers to kill out a race of people (Jews) and if non-believers do not convert, kill them. This is not being racist. I am a minority myself and I believe in the freedom of religion (a loving and forgiving). Most religions do have these attributes. Islam is a hateful religion. The west and east cannot get along because we will never have sharia law as long as we have our US Constitution. Believe it and deal with it..it is what it is!!!
What an incredible load of bullshit. Pipeliners? More like pipe layers.
Especially on each other.
They sound really enlightened. I'll bet they have an amazing repertoire of coon jokes, too.
Obama's apology is one more of his efforts at appeasing Muslims. Chamberlain thought appeasing Germany was brilliant strategy in the 1930s and look what happened to England and the rest of Europe. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
And where was the American opposition to Hitler at that time?
You are aware, of course, the sobriquet Lord Haw-Haw was given to Nazi sympathizers, traitors who broadcast propaganda during WW2?
And you are unaware that the sobriquet applied to only one man, William Joyce. He was hung.
By the British, that is.
According to Wikipedia and other sources, there were several broadcasters who were referred to as Lord Haw-Haw, a 'title' associated with traitors. Joyce's earned his fate.
Correction: Joyce's should be Joyce
More reactionary anti-Obama propaganda. Ask bin Laden if he's feeling appeased...
Or the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian casualties.
Reactionary pro-Obama propaganda like your suggestion of asking a question of a dead person is quite amusing.
The UK accepted Germany's invasion of its neighbors. Obama has not accepted any horrific acts by anybody by apologizing. Sorry, I see exactly zero relation between these two things.
Appeasement is still appeasement regardless of the method used to convey it..like Obama's apology.
Hilary, shut up. Had he kept his mouth shut and not apologized, there would be no problem. A national leader and its senior military commander in the field and some pussy in the pentagon have no business APOLOGIZING TO THE ENEMY. I will vote for you in 2016, but for now, shut the hell up. He was wrong, and he should know that. Millions of Americans know he was wrong.
I'm getting tired of our president apologizing all the time. The president has little power yet he REPRESENTS us in the world. Most americans would NOT apologize for something like that. Maybe he should be getting our opinions more often. There needs to be more voting in this country. Maybe a weekly vote on various matters. Those who care about the country would show up.
Hey, there are soldiers dying and the President is trying to keep things calm because of a mistake we made. It would be very helpful if we Americans can get behind this President for once and support what is the right thing to do. It just may save some American son or daughter serving over there.
Yet another try for republicans to try to inflame people enough to brainwash them into voting for another George Bush. Too bad, your cronies are too nuts
shows that you and most on here who are complaining DO NOT have the capacity to think two steps ahead, or even capable of seeing a bigger picture. You republican supports have no solutions, so all you can do is criticize the president. Why don't you try asking your precious republicans what they have actually done to help you!?
Well, it's not like Obama has been caught sneaking underaged employees up to his office but the critisism is well deserved and if it keeps him from being reelected, it is very helpful.
Obama's apology was dumb. He should have said that if the Afghans don't appreciate our presence and understand that dumb things happen in war, we are leaving immediately ir not sooner.
Obama doesn't want to leave, at least until after election day, because its his war and it is not going well.
I served a few aces in a tennis match last week and I served dinner to my girlfriend yesterday. Does that count?
sorry the world is so complicated from a uneducated redneck point of view. You go about your lonley pathetic existence and never appologize, lexy. Cry lexie, cry some more. Obama is going to win in a landslide. Pathetic GOP "contenders...LMAO!!!
you're an idiot, American lives have been lost because of this, soldiers are in harms way, that's why an apology is needed, tool
American lives were lost AFTER the apology.
Hey, how would you feel if a forign government on a mission in the united states burned our bibles or our constitution? Come on people we are getting way too right wing in this country.
Well Rod I'll tell ya. I would not worry about the Bible because my GOD is big enough to take care of Himself and His written Word will never be completely destroyed. As for the Constitution: our current president is trampling on it with "Obamacare" and I feel pretty angry about it, but I never even thought about killing someone to get revenge for it. That's one difference following the Bible and following the Ko ran.
i wonder how many of you liberal p#ssies have ever served? proabably none..cowards
poor john, angry and overweight. Cyr johnny, cry some more for us, dumb redeneck. cry.
John's momma and Faggot don't really deserve to be recognized but I must say you two are real jerks. Why don't you two spare us and just message your trash privately.
Ok is a fucking cry-baby.
And when did YOU serve? – you chickenhawk cocksucker.
The only "cocksucker" around hear appears to be you and your deviant friends. Did you give your pal a proper "reach-around" the last time you stuck it in his ass?
Well, of course! It is the polite thing to do, you know.
No matter what side of the debate fence you're on, there is NO reason for using the inflammatory language that you use on virtually every one of your posts.Please be civil. If you can't be civil, please do us ALL a favor and leave.
Uh, served? Just like Cheney. W. Gingrich and all the other repub chickhawks?
Your right John, you'll never find many liberals defending this great country of ours, you'll only see them try to destroy it from with-in, like they have been doing incrementally for the last 30 years.
Feel free to die for absolutely nothing on my behalf, dupe of the fascist war-machine.
Brainwashed AND stupid
You're a pathetic American hating reactionary.
what? you're a tool
I think the correct term is "survived a combat tour".
You "survive", not "serve".
I am what you would call libral and I have served with distinction...and I am no P word,but you can call me verteran.
Listen to all of you fighting between yourselves. We cannot even agree that hillary is a complete fool and barack is a cry baby together without fighting. Why serve? I mean really? are we really fighting for freedom or are we just blind to the illusion of patriotism. All we are doing is making it possible to be controlled by our so called leaders. None of them do right by us they are supposed to represent us but when did this happen last. We just sit back like good little sheeple and bicker about who is better repubs or dems. Every one of them sell us down the river. It is time we stand and reestablish a gov that represents us not special interests or the banking industry or wall street and yes they all do it both parties. This has got to change or we will seperate as a nation eventually yes even we will split into too nations or three, maybe this is best or maybe it is inevitable I am not sure but I do know that we are divided I do know that we hate each other at times. This is not working we must change and if that means totally retooling our gov then so be it. I mean relly fellas and ladies everyone is always talking about our founding fathers and their plan for the country. Well that was 234 years ago I am sure they cound not have imagined the US being the power it is today or the problems and cowards that run our country and have found ways to destroy the plan. What is the quote united we stand divided we fall well guess what we are quite divided.
I did you dipstick and I am 100% sure that you have not. Everyone of you goofballs are tough heroes om here. Get to the recruiter and go put you AZZZ where you mouth is. Bunch of lounge chair commandos.
You totally missed the whole point of the post. I was not trying to diminish people who have served in the military If it came off that way I am sorry by the way thanks for what you have done or are doing. I was just trying to make the point that our country is not going well, we are being taken advantage of and most of us most of the time do not even know it. All we care to do is fight about repub or dem policies one being better than the other. In reality neither is different they are both leading us to the same place.
Sure some of our troops are republicans and I bet its the republican troops in Afghanistan who burnt the mother fuc*king Quran just to make President Obama's job mor difficult. And I'm sure its republican troops who shut that that mother-fuc*king Navy Seals chopper out of envy of their success in killing OBL. And I'm sure it was republican troops who piss on those Afghan corpses to stir up shIit! Mother-fuc*king republican scu*mbags!
Let's not forget it is our troops in harm way. The people who stand back and play John Wayne should really put on the uniform. When Americans act out of disrespect it is our troops that pay the ultimate price by the young and pissed off who have nothing to lose and want revenge. We have lost some of our own because of the rage these young men felt when they thought their religion was being violated. Unless you are willing to put a target on your back I suggest you stop criticizing our Commander-in-Chief.
Agreed. Obama apologizing helped save the lives of our troops. Mutual respect between the U.S. and the new Afghan government is crucial for that country to be free from the Taliban and terrorists rule.
Promise you – the Ta|iban is part of their current government – I am sure they are in there, imbedded. No way, burn the country down and bring our troops home. Enough is enough. We are suffering in the USA right now, how about bringing the 1.5B we borrow from China to give to Egypt every year....oh yea, they are about to put Americans on trial for no reason at all....bank the money we are giving each country, and take care of our own...let them throw rocks at each other in the desert, they've been doing it their entire lives and won't stop..they hate us, we should leave.
There would have been a lot more peace if we kill every muslims in the world. You want Peace nuke them all.
There would have been a lot more peace if we kill every muslims in the world. You want Peace nuke them all.
I believe it time to play Mr. Nice and try stopping those animal shit on themselves. Enough of trying to bring peace by them killing us all. Let kill them and the entire world will be better off.
In this incident, American lives were lost AFTER the apology. It did nothing.
Another confused soul ... support for "the government/president" does not have anything to do with supporting this country or being a Patriot – in fact, it has gradually been less and less of the case (supporting the government/president) over the last 100 years. AND, it is our Patriotic DUTY 9not just a right) to stand up and speak out against and ineffectual government. What you said about the troops was spot on as I said about a dozen posts below yours.
"Loyalty to my Country always. Loyalty to the government when they deserve it." – Twain
... and Nodack just Google Quran burning for retirement and you will easily find your source. No, they should not have made it so obvious but the outrage" is ridiculous and simply an excuse to commit violent acts on our military/countrymen.
Well said... We love you Mr. President....
I just hope GWB, Dick Cheyney, Donald Runsfeld and the GOP and all republicans across America die in 2012!
Wow, I know a lot of troops who are Republicans and fighting for your freedom to even express that ungrateful and stupid sentiment.
As an Obama supporter I have to say that was a stupid comment. GWB, Rumsfeld and Cheney should be in jail for lying to America and the world just to go to war and kill 200,000+ people and those Republicans that found out it was all a lie later on and still voted for him need to do a little soul searching, but wishing death to all of them makes you sound like them and is over the top.
When history proves you have been getting your information from the wrong people and posting comments based on those lies I hope you will do some soul- searching, too. The aforementioned patriots did a far superior job than Obama could dream of doing. The mid-east, in case you haven't noticed, is a mess and getting worse since our current pres took office. One needs to carry a big stick when dealing with bullies/ terrorists, not their tail between their legs.
GWB, Rumsfield and Cheney should all be shot and pissed on.
Noduck....move over there...or better yet...serve 4 years and most of them, over there....then you come back with your comments....funny, everyone has an opinion, but usually those who have no clue and haven't been in harms way. we have a Muzzy in office who needs to go.
You have NO clue, what you are talking about, none at all. Obama has ruined OUR country and is slowly ripping other countries apart by trying to do his own thing, make his own decisions by bypassing Congress....where is We The People in these decisions? Why isn't he ensuring he has buy in from Americans/Congress before deciding, "I'm boss, so this is what I DECIDE'...what a silly Muzlim we have in office. He is slowly chipping away at our Constitutional rights, did you miss those that have happened and are happening? You truly are, misunderstood and sheit just falls out of the corner of your mouth.
@Faggot – and they defended your right to express that you ungrateful --.
@OK......WHO 'defended' my right? Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney? They fought, did they? Those fucking scumbags have a special place reserved for them in Hell.
They are ALL done... door is open for a True Conservative Party to step up now... Maybe not this Election. But hopefully by the next... we can get a TRUE Conservative in contention for the White House that is not affiliated with Either Party ...
Conservatives are Republicans.
That's like saying I want a Liberal in office that isn't affiliated with the Democrat party.
Republicans USED to be conservatives. That is before their party was hi-jacked by far-right bible-thumping neocons.
Sorry, 2016 will be a Hilary Clinton Presidency
Yes, like newt Ginghrich, maybe he will have an affair and a new wife by then and will have converted to Mormanisim or Muslim for forgiveness of his latest sins. What we do know is that all his staff will have an open relationship with their wives, I guess you will be able to call it an "Open White House" Funny, I thought conservatisim was about family values??? Bunch of hypcrites.
I cant believe the guy commented on here that he hopes all gop supporters etc etc die in 2012 ... would u mind tellling that to the soldiers who are dying for you a**h***. you are another appeaser who is leading us to war im sure...you are the real loser of society
And if Bush had not gotten us into iraq u imbecile and the rest of you flower children who care less about understanding the price of freedom...if Bush had not gotten us into iraq none of you would be able to afford what a gallon of gas wold cost now...you have NO IDEA what is taking part in the world...you actually think if we dont get invovled all will be rosey..how naive
It's comments like yours that illustrate why liberals have a hard time willing themselves to listen to conservatives, it's because most of the time it takes this form. Maybe when you can step back and realize how delusional you are with these various straw man arguments and misconceptions, we might actually have some progress. In the mean time we're here waiting for a better response to this than "You're too naive to understand why we should have gone to war and lost thousands of lives on the false premise of WMD's and initiated a civil war which cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and tarnished America's reputation across the world. Lets send a beacon to the world that if you have oil we will attack and destabilize you for it." When you learn to drop the weight of pride you find you can reach heights that were previously impossible.
You are a complete idiot to make that statement.
As usual, the truth escapes the public. Fact #1 the Qurans in question were burned intentionally, not accidentally. They were reclaimed from a detention center and had been used by detainees who had written notes in them – information that could possibly have jeopardized the security of our troops there and in other countries abroad. Fact #2 Islam itself says that the "retirement" of a Quran by burning is acceptable. Anyone who trusts the media or government to give them the whole truth (or usually any of it) is simply naive ... do your own research people, don't let the corporate/government controlled media spoon feed you their version of events.
You're asking way too much. Remember, you are speaking to a bunch of do nothing dimwits who are content with the government spoon feeding them everything – by-products of dumbed-down, government education. MSM is all they want; throw any truth in and it gets confusing.
Show me someplace where it says it's OK to burn the Koran under any circumstances in the Muslim world. Whether those books had incriminating info in them is irrelevant. If you want to destroy the books because they were being used for bad things is one thing, but for Americans to burn them in front of Muslims is a huge blunder that they should have known was a bad idea.
Hey Noduck....they had impeded messages on how to take out our troops....it DESERVED to be burned, BURN baby BURN. Funny, and they never have a reason to do this and do...burn OUR flags, our bibles, disrespect our people and our way of living....do you see us crying, 'don't burn those!' No, we don't live in deserts and throw rocks at people we disagree with. I would be more then happy to join those troops. Been there, seen it all.....and, their reaction of this, is expected....we need to just nuke that place, and come home and take care of our own...you're obviously someone who loves our Muzzy in office, not a clue on reality, just a sales pitch/show, for 3 years now.
**correction: EMBEDDED messages in those Korans (waiting for your lack of understanding to catch up to reality on this).
Nodack – you seem to be quite content with Mus lims telling you what you can and can not do? Is that why "Obamacare" trampling on our Constitutional rights is okay with you. No problem with Obama telling you what you must purchase or pay a fine if you don't? Get the drift here? Time to man up and stand up for your rights. Even if you don't want them now, you might someday.
Koran burning to get rid of it is a last resort. One should wrap it in a clean cloth or sink it in deep waters. If these two options are not possibles then it is permitted to burn it and dispose the ashes in a river or barry them. I am a moslem, has never supported radicalism of any kind. I consider myself a model muslim and in islamic standards, the reaction in Afganistant is way off the islamic beliefs. The burning of the Kuran does not justify the killing of innocent individuals. In islamic standards, that is worse the act of burning the Kuran.This reaction is based on hatred against America, and religion is being used as an escuse (a false escuse I should say). What is sad about the whole story is that these extremists tarnish the image of islam and people in the west think that this is what islam is about. the word islam itself means peace and these people are way off the core beliefs of the religion.
You are right on, UtahProf – these 'way to go Mr. President!' is a CR0CK.....You said it right on, it was intentionally done and done for security reasons....this O'Dumbo is simply playing his cra.ppy politics, 'we're sorry! It was an accident'....what a sorry sorry Muzlim we have in office.
So you are saying it was intentionally done by the US military just to infuriate Muslims so they would riot and kill US military servicemen? Or are you saying Obama made them burn the books so they would riot just so he could oppologize?
That makes sense to you?
Always enlightening to hear from someone in Utah who calls the President childish names. What a fantastic rebuttal! You've certainly uplifted my soul with your brilliance.
And slandering him by trying to claim he is Islamic, while he clearly is not, scores even more points. Great work! The people of Utah are so proud!
Hey Clinton, you and your left-wing buddy Obama, are a couple of un-American socialists that will soon be looking for another job. Hopefully, not in this country. Can't wait till your gone. NOBAMA 2012!!!!
You will be sure to get off your morbidly obese ass to vote come election day, right?
Obama will be re-elected......IN A LANDSLIDE!!
Get your vomit buckets ready white wingers!
and get ready for war you naive snuggly all will be happy if we appease..you are leading us to war due to you weakness....!!!
Just as long as you die, dave. That's all that matters to me.
Dude.. Have you seen the Republican candidates???? I am a republican but with the options we have I see impossible for us to win. We will have 4 more years of Obama. That's the reality.
Hahaha chuck that's funny, well am in Nigeria but, those republcan candidates are so......... well I won't judge by mere appearance but I hate the momonism inside of them.
Right on Brother the sooner the better but who are we to replace them with? a bunch of republican hacks and sell outs? we need a new system a new way of doing things this is not working.
Right on, Bobby......we Americans, those who understand the stupidity and lack of action until Election time, know who to get rid of in office, our friendly MUZLIM.
Quit embarrassing yourself. Why don't you make love to your sister so you can extend your inbred family tree? Isn't that what people who live in Oklahoma do, anyway?
I am sooooo glad I am NO longer gop!
I wasn't for either party until Bush. I'm not a Democrat, I'm an anti-Republican now.
Apologize once. You don't need to have 45 people saying sorry. This was done in error. I still haven't heard any of the Afghanis apologizing for killing our troops, or anyone else. Those killings were not in error, They were pre-meditated actions. They want to have some riots. Get out of the country and let them do what they are going to do. Obama has no problem criticizing anyone else. Sorry Billary, but this is America and we are entitled to free speech, unlike Afghanistan.
Well, It is becoming clear now, the government will tolerate no speaking ill of the ruling party. And that includes Secof State, senators, and most of all that intellectual giant, the vice president. The drones will be directed over your living and working locations to see if they can stop them before you make them public. Any bad talk of the opposition is welcomed and is appreciated.
Omly took three years for our country to slide this far down the slippery slope. Good by all.
Can someone please tell us all again why Bill Clinton bombed Iraq over WMDs in Dec 1998 with the full support of the Democratic Party?
Ah, yes, "Operation Desert Fox". Something about Iraq's 'failure to comply with UN Security Council resolutions'. And of course, our good pupp....er, friends, the British, helped out. I'd like to think he just did it to keep the Generals and the chickenhawks happy – but that's just me.
Ok FLASH BACK TO HITLER'S GERMANY!!!!!! What group of people today best fit Hitler's German supremacist facist movement?????? Which party??? Most Germans of the day believed it was an innocuous party platform that supported a strong German Nationalist movement, most went along until the very end. Yet no one today would condone Hitler's movement??? or do we????
As a life long Republican let me state the Republicans can pretend to keep their head in the sand all they want but it is our party that sews the seeds of division through a platform that assimiliates everyone's greed into a tool to enslave them. The Reagan trickle down economics will not work unless America constantly expands its "IMPERIALISTIC BASE" meaning America has to have smaller countries that will support it long term goals. THIS IS A FAILED POLICY, WHY ON EARTH DO YOU THINK MOST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD LOVES AMERICANS BUT CANNOT STAND OUR ARROGANCE!!!!!!!! Where you find American hatred, you will find a hatred of US Government expansionist policy that never delivers what is promised. The foreigners don't hate American people but they resent our government pretending to be policemen while placing friendly governments into so our corporations benefit!!!!!!!!!
Wake up Republicans, our party is behind the curve so far we look like Southern Slaves states must have before the civil war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is our platform that is not aligned with the rest of the world, not the other way around. The entire world has been developing at an incredible rate, yet were not happy unless we dominate everyone. American policy since Ronald Reagan's supporting global covert operations have caused most of the modern day wars were are facing today!!!!!! That along with the mess England Spain & France left over from their colonies!!!!!!! But the point is America needs to build its own economy and stay out of meddling with foreign governments!!!!!!!!!!
Hitler youth – OWS, Obama sympathizer
crackdown on religion – Obama regime
Government control – Obamacare
I guess the answer would be Democrats
Always refreshing to get the tea-bag perspective.
I think she just doesn't want to put our troops in even more danger by pissing off the already pissed off Muslims even more.
Quit making sense. It makes the other people here angry.
Let's face it, we are still fighting and dying in Afghanistan more than a decade later simply because GWB, Dick Cheyney, Donald Rumsfeld and the GOP deliberately and recklessly abandoned and prolonged the Afghan war to invade Iraq. And all this sh*it that's happening in Afghanistan today would have been avoided because this war would have ended at least five years ago had the GOP scu*mbags hadn't abandoned this war to go into Iraq. Therefore I just pray to God that all these stinking Republican scu*mbags all die soon along with their stinking loves ones.
I agree that Bush and Co. abandoned Afghanistan to pursue Iraq. I'm not sure if the war would have ended or not in Afghanistan any earlier, but who knows. I am not sure why we are there now, we accomplished what we said we came there to do originally.
I think wishing death to Republicans is a way over the top, but the vitriol between the two party's seems to be going that way for both sides lately.
Want to try and make me die you piece of crap? I' see you i the streets you cowardly pile of dog poop.
Time to change your Depends.
What a mess. Obama is not a leader to represent anyone but himself.
Your right.. he should have flipped them bird.. that would have done much more for us right?
Let's see. The GOP can keep their mouths shut or try and score political points and get US troops killed. How low can the Republican Party go?? We haven't seen bottom yet.
And hopefully we never will.
But I doubt it.
You are wrong. It is necessary that President Obama apologizes for this. The people in Afghanistans reaction is ridiculous, however this is not about, "We are stronger than you so we do what we want." Kind of attitude, and that "bush" attitude will do nothing but create more hatred for us. Ok so, Obama takes your advise and thumbs his nose at the people for this, it will only cause more anger and Americans will be in greater danger. I cannot stand this American attitude that we are so much greater than anyone else that we dont need to show respect. They (GOP) went after Obama for bowing to the Chinese President showing respect in that culture and they will of course go at him for this. Hes a great leader and President.
Indeed, I've noticed that people in general have great respect for those they can sh!t on and kill their troops and all the victim does is apologize for angering them.
The president did the most respectful thing by apologizing. I just returned from Afghanistan in July of last year which marked my fifth combat tour. Their religion is everything to them there way of life, who they are, and how they live. When I read some of these remarks the presidential hopefuls had said during the debate about the letter. It only proves that we have a problem in the Republicans party which keeps springing up at he worst times in this country history. We finally have some peace where are men and women at arms are not getting killed on the regular daily basis .Then you get some rich politician who never seen combat making an tasteless remark during a debate . I hope and pray that the letter is taking as a gesture of respect for the country leadership and they will end this unnecessary bloodshed. Let god be with those you are still serving over there.
I cannot believe all the reverse discrimination that happens in the South. I wish MLK was around to help battle this. I wonder if Barry even knows of it? Wait....he's probably not concerned with it as much as giving handing out government money and telling Catholics that they have to be offered contraceptives. Heck, how can the country NOT be improving with a 3.6 trillion dollar loan (bailout). haha. I love great laughs!
There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. Either it's discrimination or it's not.
Anyone else find this story hilarious? I certainly recall a time when Bush was criticized by Hillary quite often.
We should only NOT criticize the President when he is a Democrat I guess
Yeah, burning Islams most sacred book in front of Muslims causing a riot that kills Americans is real hilarious.
They're Republican's ...
... and what more can one expect. For when one of their's is selected, it's always Mr President or President this or that. However when a non-republican is elected, it's always reference by first name. And no – it's not really demeaning to the position, for they quite simply do not recognize the legitimacy of someone not their own, to the manor born. At least for the 1% (percent). The rest ... they have the manners of a gutter tripe, the same to which they have been breed. LORD, dear LORD, please – save us from these, in our hour of need. Amen
Uh huh. And what did Democrats call President Bush when he was in office? Every name in the book.
Yea, he started a war based on false reasons and our troops were killed, maimed, civilians died, we created more terrorists and spent tons of money. BIG difference. You know how many CIA officials have come forward and said that they told the Bush administration that Irag had NO WMD's? Several!
It's true Democrats called Bush every name in the book and Republicans have called Obama every name in the book. Democrats said Bush was the worst President and Republicans say Obama was the worst President. No matter who is elected President next the other party will say he is the worst President ever. If Obama is elected Republicans will do everything in their power to make him look bad and if a Republican gets elected Democrats will do everything in their power to make him look bad.
It goes without saying.
It doesn't bother you that she has criticize the former President, but is hypocritical and doesn't want the current President to be criticized?
I guess its a case of "Do what I say, not what I do" by Hillary.
She is talking about calming the situation in Afghanistan so no more US servicemen will be killed. You are talking about politics. Republican contenders saying we shouldn't opologize only infuriates things in Afghanistan, but scoring political points is more important than American lives I guess.
The President.........doesn't...'call the shots'.
The last one who thought he did, ended up decorating his wife's best dress with his brains.
That was a mean and cowardly thing to say!!! It wasn't funny it was pathic!! How you can find humor in someone's murder speaks volumes about your character as a person. It's people like you that hold america back from being a better place to live!!!
"Truth", apparently, is something that you can't handle. And for what it's worth, the pun was unintentional.
Republican, Democrat – it doesn't matter. The Pentagon runs the show.
obama should just give those people over there government assistance and allow them to vote for him. I wonder where Jeremiah Wright is these days. Did Obama really not know of his hate speech? Now countries will think whenever they kill Americans, the USA will give them an apology. Thanks, Barry! Harry Truman would nuke that country because he had a backbone. The liberal movement in this country is ruining us. I only have 1 vote (unless I go through Acorn) and so if the country goes down from the lack of leadership, like Master P said, "It ain't my fault." Happy Sunday too all, with love.
Harry Truman was a psychopathic piece of shit.
And a Democrat to boot.
Leg-Humping Obama is even worse for the country.
By all means, leftist media – we should be sheeple and fall in line with your agenda. Your elitist attitude, CNN, is appalling. But more frightening is the willlingness of the masses to succumb to the nanny state mentality that embraces the "anything goes" attitude. By the way, CNN has made it very difficult for conservatives to post. Just another way to control information. Sounds kinda communist doesn't it. But, don't worry, the government will take care of you. Do you really belive that?
I was banned from FOX after my first post. They really dont want Democrats posting there.
They're posting you, aren't they? Stop your whining.
Praising his constant failures don't help, either.
We need to get out of this crazy country. I am sad the women will be stoned to death again if they venture out of their houses but not one of those women are worth a US life. Bring our people home, on one in Afghanistan wants US troops in their country. They just want our money. Pull back foreign aid from all countries who hate us translate to EVERYONE bring our money and troops home and re-build the United States. I support Obama I think he will get us out of Afghanistan soon. He is trying to protect the Americans in that useless place. It takes time to get us out of the mess Bush and the Republicans got us into.
I agree with some of your statement, but not all of it. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney are responsible for the debacle in Iraq, but even Obama signed onto invading Afghanistan to get Bin Laden and to hurt Al Queda. Al Queada has been hurt bad and Bin Laden is dead. I agree, time to get out. Their culture is totally different than ours. The don't understand us and we do t understand them. Wedding what we came for and now all we are doing there is making the locals hate us because of our blunders.
Once we killed Osama Bin Laden, the mission is completed. Get out of there as sơn as we can. They love the Taliban and Al Queda so let be with it. I think that appologies to killers, Al Queda is stupid anyway. We never have a president like that. If he can, just write to them the burning is not intended for Quran, just the US documents iand in thousand tons of document, they are there. And that is it. Obama appologied to his buđies anyway, and I hope that some general, soldiers will not be executed for this mistakes. Mr Obama, please wake up and do the right thing, do not screw up again and again, your mistake had take 2 more US soldiers and couple more injuries.
Obama opologized to his buddies?
Obama is going to execute a General?
"but not one of those women are worth a US life."
Wow. That is incredibly ethnocentric. Who are you to say one human life is worth more than the other?
I remember the days when Republicans cared about the well-being of the country. Those days are long gone.
ain't that the truth!
Yeah, I remember a time when the Democratic party wasn't a pack of socialists. And yes, I know the definition of socialism.
no you don't ....or you'd be one. I read the back of a cracker jack box once but that didn't make me an expert candy maker... all you have is an opinion ... and seldom shared buy all.
Well at least you know how to repeat what you hear on FOX.
And I remember the time when Democrats were virulent racists – especially the southern ones (oddly enough), until they 'crossed the floor', en masse, to the Republican side after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Bill.
I remember a day when our deficit was at $1.5 Trillion dollars and the democrats want to raise spending and borrowing even more. How great they are for our country.
Oh the deficit is all Obamas fault. What was the deficit when Bush took office? 5 trillion? What was it when he left? 11.5 trillion? Not o e Republican mentioned the deficit while Bush was in office. The moment he left the rage over the deficit set it as they left our economy in tatters.
The deficit, and how much debt the US has are separate numbers. Please go learn the difference before spitting out garbage.
You trolls are beyond belief. It doesn't matter who is in the White House, Democrat or Republican or other. Burning those Korans was stupid and insensitive. An apology was required. Not to apologize would have angered them infinitely more, and with good reason. It would have indicated that it was sanctioned by the highest levels of our government when it was just the act of some small-minded idiot on the ground there in Afghanistan. I have the greatest respect and admiration for those who have answered their country's call but I don't kid myself that they are all angels. There are racists in all walks of life, including the military. Burning those Korans was a hideous act and an apology isn't enough. The perpetrators need to be dealt with severely; then maybe that action will help ease tensions a bit.
No is wasn't it was an accident. Thoughtless maybe. You are talking about paper you idiot. Not flesh and blood. The book is a book it represents hysteria, hate, ignorance and superstition. Just like the bible that book has been responsible for more horror and inhumanity than anything ever published in the world.
The book is what their entire culture is built around. We are on their soil and we are disrespecting them over and over. The first Koran burning, torturing their people and taking pictures of it, waterboarding against the Geneva Conventions, killing their people and peeing on them for the camera, the pastor in the US wanting to burn the Koran, the latest burning of the Koran.
I believe the Koran and the Bible are both man made cults, but I choose to respect people's beliefs. I certainly wouldn't condone invading a country and desecrating everything they hold dear as a way to win their hearts and minds.
You don't honestly believe it was an accident do you? How can you possibly be that naive? That's the one thing about the apology that I don't like: President Obama apologized for the wrong thing. The right thing to have said was "On behalf of the people of the United States I apologize for the senseless and racist burning of the Korans. It is not the policy of our government to insult the religious beliefs of anybody. This was a hateful and insensitive act by a disturbed individual or group of individuals and in no way reflects upon our nation's respect for you or your views. An immediate investigation has already been ordered and those responsible will face dire consequences".
Claiming that it was an accident made the apology insincere, and was rightly scorned by the Afghan people. Anybody who claims otherwise is kidding himself.
Well Nodack, ya let the cat outta the bag. Think the Bible is a cult. Wrong again; it's the book of Truth. Our laws were based on Judeo/Christian law. Sure beats the Koran or any thing you or anyone else could come up with. History PROVES when people follow the law their nation prospers; when they fall away they suffer. Sorry Bud but the facts support this. Actually, I'm not sorry for that but sorry, you along with the multitude of other non-believers, don't get it.
Yeah, I know it's just my opinion but I'm sticking with it and time will prove me right.
It is about time for us to stop being the traffic cop for all the world. Let the United Nations deal with it and we will be part of that entity. Bring the troops home – let the natural order of things happen around the world and focus all that money we waste on people who don't want us around anyway on jobs for Americans.
I am sick and tired hearing about the things we should and shouldn't do abroad. Time to let the world feel that loss our financial support. If you want to live like a tribesman – go for it. If you want democracy then do like we did go for it.
How many bibles and US flags have been burned! Do we kill over it! Get over it ! It was printed on paper it can be reprinted say I'm sorry and get back to trying to calm the world
The Dems are getting frustrated with Obama, and Hillary may step up and compete for the nomination. You know, the whole "what change" thing.
It won't happen. You can dream though.
Wishfull thinking on your part. I can't wait to vote for Obama again.
We don't kill over burning the flag or the bible because we are supposed to be more civilized.. Do you even know what that means? It never ceases to amaze me how completely ignorant some of you right wing freaks are.
It's not the book per se that's important, it is what the Quran represents to these people. It represents something sacred to them and should be treated as such.
What if someone took photographs of your mother and/or children, dropped their pants and took a big "dump" on them? What if the whole thing was videotaped and placed on YouTube? Feel good does it?
It's the same with the Quran. It's always disrespectful to insult someone's sense of the sacred.
Obama did the right thing by apologizing . . . citizens of our country ought to unite and buy new Qurans to send to the people of Afghanistan as a token of recompense . . .
Good point Hillary. I would never dream that you would criticize the President from another party during a wartime situation. Oh, wait.
I do agree with her position though... just wish it worked for both (or EITHER!) party.
If apologizing helps to defuse this situation, so be it. American soldiers are being killed! This is no time for political posturing or arrogance. If we use the logic of the negative attacks from the GOP candidates, if you step on someone's foot by mistake, you should not apologize because it was a mistake? We need to ease this dangerous situation in whatever was possible, not inflame it.
so you brought logic into a one-cell brain-off, now that's rich!
Conservatives are confused .... well "MORE" confused.
Is she serious? Don't criticize El Presidente Oboso?
How did she feel about Heir Bush?
I guess that was different because Bush was a Republican.
What a bunch of liberal Barbara Streisand.
"I know what happens in campaigns. I've been there, done that, and I know that things are said that are not going to be put into practice or policy,"
Oh yeah, we sure understand that when we were duped into believing that Obama would end both wars in the first year as he promised. We also believed he would repeal the patriot act and close gitmo and end US torture. Of course we know now he did the opposite and continued most of Bush's failed polices.That's just the way politicians roll in the good ol' US of A.
Obama wasted no time apologizing. But when US servicemen under his command are killed, silence. Not even a call for Karzai to see that justice is done. As a Navy vet, I have never seen such indifference to the loss of American military personnel by ANY President. Despicable.
yeah its tough to watch a real leader not cry and carry on like a child with a temper .... must have been hard for U to let go of Dubya eh?
Spoken like a sniveling coward. No wonder Obama, the one who bows, is your guy.
Go sit on your flagpole RH Puff-n-Stuff.
RH Puff-'n'-Cock would rather smoke the pole.
Did you know the President greets each fallen service person as they are brought home the the US?
That is simply not factual.
I heard from FOX that Obama spits on every casket of Americans. 🙂
You don't know what in the hell you are talking about. Are you referring to the same President Obama that visited the coffins of service men in private before the bodies were transported to the families? Get some facts and then write your opinions blockhead. Do you even read the news?
What a load!. You'll have to craft a better lie than that Mike.
Wow! it is a war zone! Did we ask Hitler to apologize to Us everytime an American Soldier was killed in WW2?
Lets not forget the most basic of the Pashtun tribal laws; Vengence BADAL: (Eye for an Eye) Self-respect and sensitivity to insult is another essential trait of Pashtun character. The poorest among them has his own sense of dignity and honor and he vehemently refuses to submit to any insult. In fact every Pashtun considers himself equal if not better than his fellow tribesmen and an insult is, therefore, taken as scurrilous reflection on his character. An insult is sure to evoke insult and murder is likely to lead to a murder.
All signs of a deviant society.
Good administration trying to mend a bad situation. Obama didn't burn the Koran AGAIN. He didn't torture prisoners and take pictures of it. He didn't kill people and take pictures of himself peeing on them. he didn't start a war based on lies and fabrications agai st a UN vote of no.
I can see why you're not a fan.... pulling back education grants in spelling.
No criticism of der Furher is to tolerated
I thought Bush was over?
That is unfair. Obama is much more like a Commisar.
"Clinton also defended telling an audience in Tunisia Saturday that Obama would be re-elected."
Unless the Chicago political machine engages in voter fraud of a magnitude that has never before been seen on this Earth, there will be a landslide victory for Republicans this fall. Go back to Little Rock, Hillary.
Have you seen the republican field of candidates? Your confidence is misplaced. I mean the republicans have used their majority to do nothing but damage to our economy in the hopes of getting the WH back this year. People have noticed....that's why the congress approval ratings across the board as abysmal.
Do you really believe that a Republican will be elected in a landslide, or are you delusional? I am a Republican and very disappointed with the current field.
of course Bogus has seen his cousins! and he admires them too! the Bogus family has a "great pride" just like the devil did when he told god to get off his throne.
Obama will win
And the country will lose.
Voter fraud? Do you really believe this country was going to elect another republican nitwit for president after G,W.Bush destroyed the economy? I think Obama has done a good job cleaning up his mess as difficult as it is.Like cleaning up after a tornado with a dust pan and brush.The voter fraud rumor was just the republicans whining about losing the election.Go stick your head back in the sand.
Yes..It's not that old "hanging chad" incident from not so long ago
Just wondering when the people of America will getting a apoligy for all the times we've watched Muslims burn the American flag on tv?
So you're just like them ...attached to physical object outside yourself U think represents your world eh? ---> keep moving this way towards the cliff conservative..
The next time they invade us, torture us, pee on our dead bodies and then burn our flag and bible on our soil I give you permission to complain.
Sorry, he doesn't need your permission, Comrade Stalin.
American lives do not matter to Obama or Clinton. Just don't upset their muslim brethern.
When will the Middle East or our president apologize for our gas prices?
indy–it's all about you, isn't it. ALWAYS all about YOU!!! You MUST be a republican!!! DONE WITH YOUR TYPE!!!! YOU SELFISH SELF CENTERED S0B
I am actually an independent. I like a some of the things Obama has done for this country however my point is that where has this apology gotten us. I understand what our president was trying to accomplish but it puts us on a weaker platform and it doesn't look as if anything even an apology will stop the senseless murders of our brave troops by these so called Afghan police or military trainees.
When will Americans stop driving bloated FUVs like there is no limit to oil?
when are you going to apologize for not walking or bicycling?
You need to vent your anger against the stinking speculators. They'd wreck the economy just to make a buck.
the economy is still bad for most Americans.but the rich and wealthy are just sitting back and laughing.high gas prices,food prices and everything else doesn't bother them one bit.many of the rich in this country got rich by robbing the rest of us.it's a travesty.
Shamgar50 – I don't think your dipstick goes all the way down in the oil pan – which is to say, where on earth did you get the idea that someone has "robbed" you? I'm guessing you're one of those young people who was raised on the LIberal Sickness of "Oh, we shouldn't make our children compete!" "We can't have winners and losers in games – it makes the losers 'feel bad.' " "Johnny will have a 'bad self-concept' if he loses – we must get rid of competition!"
Nobody has "stolen" anything from you! You're just too wimpy to get out and get a great education and then work HARD to bring yourself up in the world. You need to shut your whiney yap and pull on your big-boy pants!
Sorry, Shamgar – I was addressing my comments to "Tiny Iron" – uh, I mean "Big Iron."
On one hand you have Farenheit 451 which shows us that burning books is not a good thing; on the other hand, these extreme reactions by brainwashed islamists shows us that even normally peaceful people can behave like terrorists. Common man, it's just a book.
Respecting other peoples customs while occupying their country and trying to win their hearts and minds is a good idea. Torturing them and taking pictures of it to post on the internet, burning their most sacred thing, killing their people and then peeing on them while taking pictures of it to post on the web is a bad idea. They think we are savages because of it and are rioting and you think they are the savages for getting upset over it.
Customs? Occupy? We are there to try to protect this country from extremists. Problem is: any religion that encourages the kind of revenge we have seen after apologizing for "the mistake" is an extreme religion. This is exactly what Obama and Clinton AND Bush don't understand.
So you say we are in Afghanistan to protect their people from extremists? Who said that? Bush never said that. We went there out of revenge for 9/11. We went there to get Al Queda and the Taliban refused to give him up so as Bush said, "You are either with is or against us". I don't blame Bush for going into Afghanistan. Even Obama voted for that, but the reason wasn't to protect their people. It was to kill terrorists that attacked America.
When I said this country I meant the U.S. A. not Afghanistan
No Nodack, we think they are savages for killing people over a book. And they are.
They are killing us because we invaded their lands, tortured their people and took pictures of itdor fun, burn their most sacred book, pee on their dead for fun and them post it on the web. That along with many other acts of disrespect that make us look like savages is what has made them angry enough to riot and kill.
I don't care about any religion, but I know doing all those things to them on their soil is a bad idea unless I really didn't respect them and am a savage.
It Does No Good to Offend the Friendly Muslims.
It is these moderates who must rein in their extremists.
There are many more moderates who just go home at night and watch TV with their families like we do...
we must cultivate these.....
this is uncall 4, at least 4 troops have being killed, violence should hav stop b4 now.
I think Obama sucks! criticism of my criticism is not American ... clinton sucks too .... cheers
i think you suck more than all the politicians that ever lived.
Except for Reagan. Nobody sucks more than Reagan.
Tell them to go to hell...eat pork and kiss our ass..we owe them nothing..
I think we've been doing that for quite some time now.
What a tough guy! Easy for you to say, sitting in your comfy computer chair in your comfy suburban house here in the U.S.
By words only is Afghanistan still a war
I just read the first line and then stopped.
How many dozens of times did the US and NATO apologize to other countries concerning their so called mistakes in the past 7 years. Do these apologies mean anything anymore. I dont think so. They are just some lotion to put on the cut, until it is cut again and again. A serious reporter should tabulate all of the excuses and publish it.
White House's new foriegn policy: Obamapology
Yeah, we are so bada$$ that we should just spit in their faces. Good advice. We'll win the war on terror in no time if only people were to follow your thinking.
I'd prefer that to the idiotocracy that apparently you believe in...
to CAWinMD and all you other "patriots".....
All this overly aggressive talk about disrespecting others or spitting in the face of angry mobs of men who severely out-number our brave men and women in harms way, troubles me deeply.
There are numerous well known religious taboos you don't intentionally engage (unclean meats to a Jew or Adventist; offer roast beef sandwiches to Hindus, offering lies as truths in Christian worship) in. Only the truly un-learned individual would do so at their own peril – just don't involve others. Truly be brave and do it by yourself.
I have no problem for the President of our country to offer an apology to the people of Afghanistan and Muslims everywhere for the unintentional wrong committed when copies of the Muslim Holy Book were mistakenly burned.
The acceptance of any apology is in direct proportion to the sincerity of one offering it. Leaders know a fake when they see one. And although some deny him at home, Obama is respected elsewhere. His apology holds weight.
I know what it is like to have a loved one in that environment, night and day. My only prayer is they return home, safe and sound. The mindless, media transported, mouthing off of a spineless few from a great distance away, who have NEVER served in our Armed Forces, or even had a one-on-one schoolyard fight, puts those we love in danger.
These kind of presidential candidates showing that kind of ignorance of the situation and the consequences of their verbal actions are truly unworthy of our consideration for the office of President. Their character is as flimsy as paper and just as likely to blow away when even stronger political winds blow our way.
In more stronger words, STFU, until the situation subsides or until all the troops are home.
Love it! I'm going to steal "Obamapology"! That is as good as "Occutards".
I am sorry for this Administration – Apologizing for this was perhaps one of the dumbest decisions Obama has every made; by doing so he gave credibility to the silly 'outrage' that some Afghans are currently inciting. Extremist Muslims use any of this as dry timber to ignite the flames of hatred. The Middle East has become a powderkeg just like the Balkans in WWI – and Obama and Clinton have paved the avenue for some bad kick-back.
Obama should just have said F-you or ordered nukes dropped on them all, correct?
Wow indypolitic, you would make a GREAT LEADER! Instead of trying to calm a situation so that u.s. soldiers who you obviously don't care about, would not be killed by an angry population, your BRILLIANT response would just be to say "F-you" to everyone! Positively BRILLIANT!
Gee Tom, what is so calming about a president with his tail tucked between his legs watching our brave soldiers slain and injured because he won't let them fight to defend themselves. So far his apology has done nothing but make us look weak. How many more of our troops must die stanidng on the sidelines?
Muslims burn human beings, churches and buildings, without any apology. Holy quran is what they call it, agreed. Which means that allah the owner of the book can fight for his own book, but extremist are doing the fight for their allah that shows how weak their allah is. Worst of it all a whole U.S president is apologising for burning a book, funny. And that has given those extremists the right to kill.
K, one more time:
"U.S. officials, including President Barack Obama, have apologized for the burning and called it inadvertent. A military official - speaking on condition of anonymity, given the sensitivity of the issue - said the materials were from a detainee center's library and had "inscriptions" that appeared to be used to "facilitate extremist communications."
Read the last line from this CNN article published yesterday.
NO APOLOGY NEEDED!
Regardless of what was in the texts, there are right ways and wrong ways to dispose of Qurans, just like there are right ways and wrong ways to dispose of an American flag. We're in their country - you have to respect the local beliefs.
You. 're right let's do what they do, rape little boys, kill women, thow acid in ther faces, have honor killings and wipe out a village in a snit. Yep!
@surprised; Americans commit these same atrocities upon their fellow man every day, here on American soil. Evil has no boundaries, nor recognizes any borders. And as far as 'wiping out villages in a snit" goes, look up a place called "My Lai".
"there is a proper way to burn the Quran ..just like a proper way to burn the American flag". Maybe so, but big difference -->we don't go and KILL people over it! How many soldiers will be worth a few inadvertendly supposedly improperly burned Qurans...that would've gotten burned anyway sometime because of their defacement. There is no limit to the extremists excuses for murder.
CAWinMD – You are as clueless as your leader. The revenge for the "inadvertent mistake" speaks volumes about what we are dealing with and it is about time you people realize there can never be peace with this "religion" unless you are willing to bow to their god and give up your freedom. That may be your choice but not the choice that our military personnel has sacrificed for and continue to defend nor the choice of the majority of Americans. THAT is precisely why we need a new POTUS.
I suppose it's possible that the military had NO IDEA that burning the Koran in front of Muslims would upset them, but they would have to be complete morons living in a cave not to know that. We already burned one before and set off a riot. Then the pastor in the US was going to do it and set off a riot. We tortured their prisoners, piled them naked in pyramid and took pictures of them with US military posing smiling at the great fun they were having and posted it on the Internet and set off a riot. Just a few weeks ago we found the pictures of US servicemen peeing on dead Afghanistans they killed posing for more fun pictures of their trophy kills and that made the locals even more happy about being occupied. Now we burn the Koran AGAIN I from of Muslims setting off yet another riot and Republicans are upset at Obama for oppologizing saying none is needed.
Apparently apologizing is for losers. USA! USA! USA!
Nodack – are you forgetting 9/11 among the many other events involving those who follow this religion? You act as though they are totally innocent. So a few of our citizens did things they should not have done but do you understand WHO provoked THEM? Do an honest study of Is lam, read the Kor an and then come and give us a report. I guarantee you will see a huge double standard buried in the depths of their "holy" book and evil religion. While you are at it read rthrough the entire bible and notice the theme of redemption offered EVEN to mus lims.
The Koran can't be any worse than that other steaming pile of fairy-tale bullshit known as the bible.
Could this have been a case of some stupid soldiers as Judith suggests or was it soldiers that were simply following orders? If the latter was the case what could have been done to stop the burning of the Qurans by soldiers who are required to obey orders?
Probably just a couple privates burning sensitive materials. Happens every day. We had a burn barrel in Korea where we incinerated all paper materials every night. It is a standard S2 (intelligence) duty/function. Probably some new Lieutenant in charge with a week in country and no clue as to the ramifications. If a Bible had been suspected to have messages in it they would have burned that as well.
They were obeying orders from so ebody that wasn't very smart. I could care less about the Koran, but I know that burning it in front of Muslims after all the bad press we already had is a really bad idea. At least have the decency to do it away from Muslims.
Not saying something "bad" about Obama means not saying anything at all. He is the reason for the proverbial, "If you don't have anything nice to say about someone don't say anything at all". There isn't a single redeeming quality about this entire administration. It is rotten to the core. Never has there been such an overt idiot in the oval office. History will remember this failed experiment with total condemnation. He will be remembered as the POTUS that brought the US to the brink of collapse and the world to the brink of war. I suspect these are agenda items. Let's make sure they go unfulfilled!
You are just a simple minded brain deprived, mentally mane, destitute starved Buffoon! You must be kin to Dick Cheney, because he is the only idiot who make such outrageous statements after he help lie and start a war, couldn’t read the threat assessment’s against the U.S.A. doing his term and ripped America of financially for billions of dollars with Halliburton. On the other hand, you just maybe Sarah Palin!
Wow, you're just as thin skinned as the President. People are still entitled to their opinions. Obama hasn't succeeded with his dicatorship yet, so chill.
Celeste- you listen to a lot of lies and, unfortunately, believe them. Now why did Obama send MORE troops to Afghanistan?
I look forward to casting my vote for Obama again. I don't agree with anything you said. From my vantage point Obama has done a good job under bad circumstances. He was handed two wars, an economy in ruins and a hostile Republican party willing to do and say anything if it means harming Obama even if it hurts the country.
I'm tired of the Republican lies, fabrications. Iraq WMD? The evidence was fabricated, made up. The Iraq ties to Al Queda? All lies made up. 200,000+ dead $1,000,000,000,000.00 spent on a war for no reason based on lies and Republicans re- elected Bush even after they Fou d out it was all a big lie.
What about the WMD's our troops found but the media never published? Yeah, I figured you wouldn't believe it because it didn't come from MSM.
The burning of copies of Quran should never have happened, the west is not in a war against Islamic people but against terrorists who happen to be or claim to be muslim. Protocol dictates that President Obama had no other choice than apologise for the actions of some stupid American soldiers. For GOP/Tea bag presidential candidates to make the comments they have shows they have no idea about how they should act if (God forbid) one of them got an extremely lucky break and got into the White House: None of them that made such comments is fit to be a politician let alone president.
Do the people of America want to fight terrorists or fight Islam because what these soldiers did and the support given to them by GOP/Tea bag candidates will spread this war from being against terrorists to being a warn against Islam and with all America's might and power you might find a war against Islam is one that you cannot win.
I hope for the sake of all the sane Americans that this war does not esculate because some dumb people called GOP/Tea Bags have no idea about being a politician and diplomacy.
You would't believe how educated GOP/Tea Partiers are.
A person's ethics and morals are largely fashioned by environment. While more education generally acts as a remover of prejudice, peer pressure and a culture where hatred and bigotry is nourished can easily trump its benefits."Educated" T partiers are a perfect example of this paradox.
LOL... based on most of the things that I see from GOP/Tea Party, you're right... I wouldn't believe it.
No, I DO want to be at war with the Islamic people along with a LOT of others. I want to fight them now. I want them eradicated. I want their infestation removed from MY planet. I do not want my children slaughtered by these beasts from the gates of hell. Better I give my life to end them and let the planet sigh in relief. NO GOOD can come of their Ilk. Never has there been a better reason to go to war.
Okay... you go first.
Sounds like Joe here works for the military industrial complex or an oil company. The question should be why are we still in Afghanistan. Usama Bin Laden is dead. No more wars to feed the military industrial complex. JFK and Ike warned us... when will we take heed. Bring our troops home. Our soldiers are being killed for no reason other than greed. If the Afghanistan people or anyone in the middle east want to kill themselves in wars fine but I will pray for peace for all humanity. Leave the USA out of it
The President's attempt to quiet the situation did nothing. No one discusses the reasons why they were burned. The soldiers did not mean to incite violence, there were better alternatives to burning. It appears to me that the President is not backing his soldiers. He apprears weak to the middle eastern world. They are killing our troops and no one discusses that and how wrong it is. Judith I will pray for you and for the Muslim people because this is a tool to incite violence by the enemies of the United States.
well said Judith. I couldn't agree with you more. The right wingers and tea bags cannot differentiate between terrorists and a huge world religion that is really about peace. The terrorists are no different than Christians blowing up abortion clinics because they disagree with the law, they are just better organized to create massive damage when they strike, and they don't care if they lose their own life in the process. But islam does not equal terrorist any more than Christian equals right wing.
"Judith" writes: "Do the people of America want to fight terrorists or fight Islam?" What she FAILS to understand is that Islam, far from being "just another religion" is (on another level) a theo-political, expanisionist ideology, anti-democratic and both totalitarian and fascist. Fascism is defined by the use of violence/threats to achieve political ends. The aim of Islam is the ultimate subjugation eventually of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS. The Koran is EXPLICIT IN THIS and clearly states: "Islam must rule over all other religions, EVEN if violence is necessary." The Koran, in part (as Princeton scholar Bernard Lewis once stated), "reads like a war tract." There are hundreds of vicious incitements to mercilessly execute virtually all other groups who refuse to be subjugated. Historically, it was a clear choice: Either CONVERT to Islam or be slaughtered. We are still seeing this being played out in the world. Personally, my take on the Islamic world is that the term "radical Muslim" is almost a redundancy. Many of the braver Muslims in the world (those who seek to change Islam from within) have had to face the threat of assassination virtually every day they wake up. Years and years later, both world class author Salman Rushdie and the elderly cartoonist Westergaard STILL have to face either death threats or actual attack. Five years after publishing his cartoon, Westergaard was attacked in his own home in Denmark by an Islamic fanatic with an axe. The attempted assassin was captured and given a very long sentence. Islam will NEVER compromise–by nature it seeks domination. It is no ACCIDENT that the entire Islamic world has little use for the respect of individual conscience and even less respect for "democracy." The Koran is explicit–Islam is THEOCRATIC with power vested in a handful of so-called "clerics." Muslim clerics are sanctioned to call for the death of ANYONE who they deem to be "A Threat to Islam." Which translates as virtually ANYONE too critical of this cult. Like the Mafia, huge, huge sums of money are often offered to have these assassinations carried out. Had it come on the planet just a year ago, I suspect Islam would be banned in the West as a totalitarian and fascist ideology, one that runs DIRECTLY in conflict with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
As a Muslim I am frankly disgusted by all the hatred and negative comments that are posted here. No not all Muslims are terrorists or some cave dwelling people that are beating up their women and killing infidels. One fifth of world's population are Muslims and if we were all terrorists trust me there would be some terrorist events taking place once in a every five minutes.Those of you who are calling Muslims all kind of names, how about we all Muslim countries get together and stop exporting oil to America and the west??? Let's see how you guys like them cookies then!!
If there was an Islamic terrorist event every five minute, Obama would declare victory over terrorism..
Why not? It 'worked' for W.
Please don't make up things people didn't say. BTW, Obama has $35,000 a plate dinners. Who can afford that but the RICH. Obama will outpace Republicans y far in donations from the rich. You don't make any sense
Riiiiiiiigggghhhhtt!!!! – insanely expensive fund-raisers are the sole domain of the Democrats.
Cool. And then we'll do the same thing with food.
Actually, that's how they pay for food.
What if all the Muslim countries stopped exporting oil West? Well, I'll tell you what would happen ... the Muslim countries would screw themselves over just as much (if not more) than the countries they would be trying to punish. You see all the major oil producing states that are Muslim countries produce what is called crude oil ... to get what we call gasoline, jet fuel, etc ... it has to be refined. And guess which countries are the major oil refiners? Yup ... Western countries. So actually, even those oil producing states controlled by Muslim have to import REFINED oil. They sell the crude to the West, the West refines, it and then sell back what they don't need to the producer state.
Plus, while countries like America import a good portion of their oil they're actually sitting on untapped crude oil reserves that exceed that of even countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Dubai. That's because the United States has a "use their oil first policy." If the United States wanted to it could produce and refine all it's own oil for over 100 years without having to import one drop. They don't do it because 1) they don't want the negative environmental impact such a policy would have, and 2) it's easier to use other people's oil at this point.
I suggest next time you know what you're talking about before you start making idle (and incredibly ignorant) comments.
You're high. What bar did you hear that in? The US is completely tapped when it comes to high quality, easy flowing crude. We plucked all the low hanging fruit decades ago. The fact that we now drill miles into the crust in waters a mile or more deep tells you we have no easy crude left. The reason we import is because Saudi Arabia can still pump a barrel of crude for $5 while it takes $60 to get a barrel from tar sands. Even the Bakkan formation with its 7 billion or so barrels of producible oil is only enough to cover one year of US demand and it will take decades to get that shale-locked, ultra slow flowing crude out of the ground.
Blursd you are 100% correct. No oil sold means instant and total internal civil war for ALL oil exporting Muslim countries. It is the same reason why our "leadership" will not repatriate the 30 million illegal Mexicans in the US. It would also lead to total and complete civil war in Mexico. Have a stable neighbor to the south is deemed the better alternative. I say let the Muslims fight each other when their leaderships money dries up from lack of oil sales. I say let Mexico fall into civil war. It is time for the US to stop supporting the world. That goes for YOU TOO China! Let's see what happens to your restless citizens if the US stops buying your cheap garbage. You TOO will fall into civil war.
The burning of Quran was "inadvertent" and an error. President Obama apologized. End of issue. You are correct not all Muslims are terrorists and I do have some who are friends. However, your comment about shutting oil off is a little over the top. The United States has plenty of oil and natural gas to fuel our nation. It is unfortunate that Muslim countries believe they are in control of our destiny. They are not. In fact I venture to say that if we have a new President committed to energy Independence. Then Muslim countries can go their own way.
lol... you can't out-troll a troll. you're just a sockpuppet or too stupid to know better.
then say something ... like I disagree with the killings, I disagree with stoning, I disagree with sharia, I disagree with ignorance ... Muslim are silent everywhere .... so until you speak up ... you get to shut up ... cheers.
btw. if we don't buy oil, what else you have .... sand? eat it m0f0
Here in america we think your so-called prophet is a pedophile and a phony. Go home before things get as ugly here as they are in Afghanistan.
This may be a case of a few bad apples making the rest of you look bad, but every time Muslims commit atrocities the silence is deafening – except from those rushing to find any excuse to justify their actions. Islam is seen as an extremist religion and you have no one but yourselves to blame. There is no visible effort at all on the part of moderates to reign in the extremists, apologize for their actions, or even bother to criticize them.
I will just take it that you still don't know who voted for this mess, considering while the military was in con grease explaining themselves and their plans to the WORLD, Cnn was airing the "BIG SURPRISE STORY OVERWEIGHT JUNKY over doses! at Island retreat", wow three month long BIG SURPRISE STORY, say what, sure thin you people aren't stupid at all you post grad degrees in Racketeering and Fascism now if you could only define those words, but nope just waiting for the next BIG SURPRISE STORY. My word she voted fo it I think r I think. I don't even care their all the same monkey brained pointy things pointing at each other blaming each other and screwing you. Don't be rude to the lying baby killers and you will go far in America, and I am going home to play video games or leaving the country since nothing I want here since you people are all mighty not FASCIST by your on omissions only though. Cannot even hate ya. the liar says what? What is wrong with you people, I want leave America and find the most remote place on earth, yet I even hear word my word you are sick freaks!
All it takes is mention of the Quran and Muslims to bring the crazy's out of the closet apparently. As any sane person clearly knows, Obama's apology was absolutely correct to protect our soldiers in harms way. Period.
PERIOD! Exclamation mark.
You know, saying the word "period" is more of a spoken device, and doesn't really translate well into writing where you can type actual periods for all the world to see, like this one -->. period.
AMEN... period, exclamation mark, capital letters, underscore.
Who's brilliant idea was it to send 100 thousand american troops into Afghanistan in the first place? I though this was supposed to be a "smart" war. Well it turns out Obama's war may not be so smart after all. What the heck are we doing there? And I think a few round from a m16 would be more effective protection that Obama making an ass out of himself and disgracing our national honor. He's worse than Carter. Oh I forgot, democrats have no concept of honor.
Criticism of those criticizing is not helpful.
I guess Hillary is suffering severe memory lapses, and has suddenly forgotten that criticism is the bread and butter of politics. Stuffing "Hillary criticizes" into your favorite search engine will generate literally millions of examples of Hillary ignoring her own advice.
It's numerous to sit and watch. To think that any rational person would vote to give this person a second term is beyond belief and yet the media will find ways to redirect the public eye and get him re-elected. They blame everyone but themselves. Not only will people drink his KoolAig, but he'll make them buy it and because of his policies the price has tripled!
wow you're dumb
Wow... he's right. you're dumb. really dumb. "dumb" like "holy dow i know some cows that exhibit more intelligence than you." that' kind of dumb. Got it?
A couple of days ago I would've suggested you do things that no decent person should ever have to read.
We apologized ONCE.
If the Agfhany's want to kill themselves and try to kill us over a few books being burnt which may or may not have been the Quran then so be it.
This is America-we don't bow down to ANYONE.
...............except the military industrial complex and banksters.
Wow, a truly ignorant post...............
why? because they are very capable of doing it to themselves?
yep all YouR problem. What happened, whatever f/n morons with papers will never admit it. Der the test say so, and you passed morons,.- Admit it already and leave or go right ahead with that Cause again.
In English please.
Bumble Stilkins– I tried reading you comment backwards, and it still didn't make any sense.
I think it's the same dumb guy... the troll who doesn't know how to troll (and, take it from me, that's as dumb as it comes).
Hey, at least MY shit makes sense.
(you might not like it, but at least you can understand what I'm saying)
Mrs. Clinton is the original sycophant, she's elevated toadyism to a fine art. While Obama grovels to the Muslims, she grovels to Obama when what she actually wants is to replace him in the WH. Does she really expect the public to sit back and not critique the President's blunders? Isn't that what totalitarian governments demand of their citizens?
Grovelling? Really? You sir are a moron. Go read a book and turn off Faux News.
maybe you should consider yourself the moron. Come on.
In true liberal fashion, be sure to resort to name-calling when you have no argument.
Definition of grovel: "to humble oneself or act in an abject manner, as in great fear or utter servility", an apt description of Obama's action.
I didn't resort to name calling for lack of a point to argue. Your post was simply that.... moronic. There is no point in trying to argue against such nonsense but I'll give it a shot. Anyone who thinks that burning the holy book of another's faith is not a blunder worthy of an apology has questionable morals and terrible judgement. Riddle me this...are people dying because the books were burned or because the president apologized? Is it ridiculous to kill over a book? YES. Was it stupid to do it knowing the repercussions could be tragic? ABSOLUTELY!!!! Grow up or go sit at the kids table.
Obviously you are biased, and did not spell check your post. More importantly, the president took a proactive approach to the situation in Afghanistan. Whether you are motivated by politics or not, it is logical to assume that there would be substantial fall out and or possible loss of life due to this incident. The act it self (burning the texts) may have been simply an error, but the significant (dangerous) part is how it could be interpreted (manipulated) to further disrupt progress in the region.
This is pointless to apply logic to the comment you posted on this link or any others because of underlying bias, however I feel better.
And you, of course, are unbiased?
What particular word(s) do you of the literati think I should spell differently?
A. Who made the almost unthinkable decision to destroy the Koran????? And,
B. Isn't the point of an apology that it offers the beginning of some possibility that it might prevent further retaliation against our soldiers?
Bite me. Those people blow up their houses of worship all the time, including every book in it. Their indignation at someone else doing it is the ultimate hypocrasy. They don't treat the Bible with the same respect so I don't care if all the protestors get gunned down in the street. Don't harm our soldiers or you will suffer.
hey RickV... bite me harder. Guys like you fan the flames of war without an inkling what you mean or what you want. More than likely, you're some fat couch potato who hasn't picked up a shovel in decades, much less a fully loaded pack and an M16.
Yep your's , bye you people are so stupid it hurts to laugh, what you people needed the instability remember what for bright one's, I do!!!!!!!!!!!1Q but cause for opinions, yo people sure do.2Q Sorry you did vote for it though, impossible. Kill em all jew boy you against million sure it will work out for you I better things to do than fighting over my blaspheme given right to treason's wealth, my word you people are stupid and have the fascist paper work one and all and demand every child be the same tell me your not fascist, yay you people.
ow my brain
That's about as painful a post to read as I've seen all day! Please learn to write something that is comprehensible.
This is what happens when you eat potatoe chips, drink tonic (soda) three times day.
Education at it't best!
sorry for the typo – should have been "Education at it's best".
At least I re-read my post!
There should not be an apostrophe in "its".
bwahahahahahaha... who shat this tu.rd?
I like the cut of your jib.
That line was on an episode of Cheers – good one
Criticism hurts? Absolutely, it does ... his probability of reelection, that is. If all the truth about him were to be uncovered and publicized, he wouldn't SEEK reelection.
Why dont YOU tell us, all-knowing-one...
lmao... yah... uh huh... you mean the one where he's really an alien from alpha centauri? or the one where he's really a cross dresser... oh... i know, Obama is really illiterate... right? I forget... so many idiots, so many conspiracies... hard to keep track.
Secretary Clinton doesn't get it. The Republicans want to enrage Muslims and burn their qurans. Angry Arabs give the GOP an excuse to go in and kill them ruthlessly. Just ask any of the two former President Bushs' and President Reagan. Secretary Clinton is an a lose-lose situation by saying anything regarding this issue and she should shut her trap if she wants to keep President Obama in office.
That is a cool story bro
I disagree with you. The military is not over there too burn books and antagonize situations. By doing this they are putting troops in the mid-east in danger. Americans can't be so cocky as to disrespect other races, cultures and other ethnic groups. There is nothing wrong with our leader letting the world know that not all of us of our racist bast..ds. America and the rest of the world are facing some touch challenges. The republicans I see today are portraying themselves are racists and fear mongers. The PUTUS has to represent everyone in America. You can believe what you will otherwise this great democracy will never work.
clueless... but in a weird way...
I don't think Hillary has any great love for Obama.
Or anyone else.
I'am surprized their fathers didn't trade them for a monkey when they were small.
What what happened again Con grease voted against the US military in favor of instability region and screeming Jew "Kill em all we must Kill them all" yep you people. Wither voted for it or not is irrelevant considering the back and forth votes its like who turn is it this time for you people all the same despite your fraudulent titles, just all the same pointing back and forth as both force the same path of instability in complete contradiction to any rational function of humanity. you did and you did you people and I am sure you will get away with it all again no matter which tard you put in the white house. You are some sick people and all I see. I have no clue other than you people get away with the obvious b/s, no f/n clue other than I want to punch a retard in the face now because of what you people told the retard to do. Sick sick sick freaks and you all have the same special paper work even, what does that make you people all the f/n same. What is the point of pointing pointy, when you are all the same people on paper. Hope that extortion of the public to continue the cons goes well for you people. Imaginary money invested in imaginary gold and stocks, and industry of confusing children to make sure you get away with. I cannot even hate you people your so stupid.
I counted eleventy-seven "you people's"
Just what do you mean, "you people"???
LMAO... i counted eleventy two.
This POTUS has no backbone!
Right. The man who got Bin Laden and a couple other serious pests has no backbone. Why is it that any sort of (very apporopriate) concession is seen as weakness by the right? This is the same philosophy that Bush had – never apologize, no matter if you are right or wrong – that got us such a bad rap in the world. You insist on sticking to false "might", thinking any sort of self-reflection is weakness. You want to be number one and think the only way to be that is to shove your way through. You fail to see where true strength comes from. TG Obama gets it.
I wasn't aware that Mr. Obama was a Navy Seal.
Yo... RETARDoF WARYET... he's the f.kn CinC. Wat do you need to see to get that through your tiny little head... his birth certificate? LMAO!
Whatever happened to politics ending at the foreign shore? The Republicans can disrespect Obama, but it is unsettling to see criticism of our commander in chief while soldiers are literally in harm's way.
Yeah, that never would have happened back during the Bush years, when Democrats set a shining example of civility and unity by behaving with such level-headed restraint and class, and consistently rising above cheap political opportunism.
LOL... never happened. Need proof? Take a look at Harpers Magazine during the Civil War. VARIOUS documents during WWI, and congressional records during WWII, Korea, Vietnam...
This is no different than, say, if Afghani soldiers burned American flags. The Afghani president/government would apologize for it. It's out of respect, not a sign of weakness like some fools would make it to be. The president did what any president would do to try and diffuse a situation that has put our troops in more danger. The Repubs can talk all they want in their primary about it, but if any of them was president, they would have done the same exact thing.
Bigger hearts bring about bigger rewards. Why the allies got a bigger share of Germany after WWII... because the Allied treated the Germans better than the Russians. We shouldn't be involved in the region anyway, but we did... they didn't come to us, we go to them. We had Osama Bin Laden... but we started the conflict... we should have consulted with the regional countries but we didn't... the world doesn't belong to the United States.
Exactly, but then again politics in the US keeps getting uglier every day. Now we have news stations dedicated to spreading the propaganda of their party 24/7. They have made half of America the enemy of the other half. We are now a divided nation. If a Republican is elected President I am pretty sure that Democrats will do the same thing the Republicans are doing and will appose any and everything that President does. Democrats will demonize the government and Republicans will preach that it is unAmerican to disrespect the President and Government.
It's all BS politics now.
Won't she ever GO AWAY??? What a 'ditz' ! ! Now, who's going to help the US 'citizens' when they 'revolt'??
What a nut job comment.
I'm not a fan of hers but you have the TWIT Palin
Hey Steve, this "twit" you speak of has more qualification in her pinky finger to talk about these things, and to lead the country if it came down to it, than any prominent Republican of the past 10 years has in their entire, inflated ego.
It is your YOUR problem, so don't look at me I am just holding back so I don't punch some "I am the authority" figure in the face , women or not I cannot stand you people.
We kinda could live w/o you, too.
You know. It's fine to criticize anyone, as long as they're not black or other minority, a woman, a DEMOCRAT, etc.
H.C. is the most partisan human being on the planet.
No, it's cool to criticize blacks as traitors and uncle Toms and women as dumb c-s (hi5 Bill Maher!) and, like, make fun of their families and call their daughters sluts and laugh at their retarded babies and stuff like that as long as they establish themselves as evil by disagreeing with you politically.
The only group you're not allowed to criticize under any circumstances is Muslims because they get mad about everything and might start killing people indiscriminately.
Nobody is stopping you from criticizing Hillary Clinton. They're just calling you out on your stupid and ignorant opinion of her.
yep its all about youz peoplze. cough cough narcissists. maybe they just don't like you if you think it is all about you people, it must be what you people did or you people said, if you say so. My future is on they just don't like you people, and never have but your so confined in those little brains, whatever you did say it first "Us people are at fault", whatever they did vote for you people. So when is the next reward for the mandated racketeering institutions you people financing and even demanded everyone sign up for. yay you people.
Riiiiight....I wonder if she had the same thoughts when Bush was president?
"SORRY" but in my 70 plus years W has been the worst President.
You must have slept through the Carter Administration.
Everywhere Clinton has spent much time in the Middle East there is now trouble of some kind. deposing the people who keep that bunch of morons in line is not working to anyones benefit. I believe her and Obamas mission is to create chaos wherever they can. We are looking at the fall out from their actions, even in Mexico with them giving the cartels weapons, chaos. Can anyone explain that action? Obama and Clinton represent Fascism. compare this country now with Germany 1933 and you will see we are on the same path. I will not leave out Bush, he is a idiot. We now have more separation than ever yet we fail to see that the wealthy want only two divisions in the world, the poor and the rich. All of you know what needs to be done but you will not let go of your fantasy.
Okay, genius, you brought these topics up, let's see you back them up.
1. Give me some examples of where Clinton has spent time in the Middle East that there is now trouble, and explain how she instigated that trouble.
2. Define the word "Fascism" without looking it up. (Let's see if you even know what it means.) Explain how Hillary and Obama "are fascists."
3. Explain how we're in any way similar to Germany in 1933, economically, politically, and socially. What events in our recent history correlate to anything that happened within a similar range of years in Germany prior to 1933?
If you can't answer any of these without citing verifiable facts (not opinions), I'm going to assume that you're just another amateur hack acting on misinformed gut feeling.
Oh – so now the democrats are trying to stop our freedom of speech? Clinton – keep your mouth shut!
I don't remember her concerns like this when W was being criticized on an hourly basis by the lib's. LOL. Say it with me...H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y.....
As soon as Obama declares war on another country based on lies and fabrications and against a UN vote and kills 200,000+ and spends $1,000,000,000,000 on an unfunded illegal war you can criticize him all you want.
Democratic Free Speech:-Uh–Don't tell the troops what their Bishop asked to be read to them and -let's force Religions to support wha tthey do not believe in!
Great Ideas-trash the amendments!
She is trying to keep you guys from getting any more Americans soldiers killed just to score political points.
NOW ? I sure hope you are aware that they have been attempting to squelch Freedom of Speech, and many more Freedoms, for decades.
How dare the proletariat criticize the emperor.
The Republicans care little for our country and only want power. They will say anything to get elected, especially Romney and Gingrich. Obama will get attacked for anything, no matter how petty. Sad.
This comment is fresh and original!
We already have enough partisan hacks on this board; no need for another.
The most telling thing about incidents like this and the inevitable apologies and pandering to the "sensitivities" of Muslims that follow is how low the world's expectations evidently are regarding Islam.
If any other group on the planet responded in such a juvenile and barbaric manner to so trivial a provocation they would be rightly condemned as savages and lunatics. It's just par for the course for Islam, though, and nobody expects any better from them at this point. If it's not the burning of a koran (whether in Afghanistan or Florida) providing an excuse to riot and murder in the name of their supremacist, intolerant religious doctrine, it's always something else.
So, as usual, the civilized world must once again sigh like exasperated parents and soothe and coddle the Islamic world like irrational little babies who are incapable of controlling themselves like adults. It's pathetic, really, and any Muslim with an ounce of maturity and education ought to be ashamed of their juvenile, primitive, backward culture.
All of what you said was pretentious and ignorant.
Oh noes, that sounds bad!
Congrats, though: your awesome counter-argument totally invalidated my entire point.
Actually what he said is highly justified. And I have to add that people who follow a religion where the stupidest little things regularly inspire violence, mayhem, and murder, don't strike me as having all that much confidence in their God or beliefs. Otherwise, why feel so insulted? What are they trying to make up for by reacting in all these extreme ways?
All of what you said is exactly 100% correct.
They just had our troops urinating on their soldiers dead corpses, they asked us to leave, and now we burn their holy books. Do I find it strange that they get the most upset over the last one? Yes. Do I think we have overstayed our welcome? Hell yes.
If we had an unwelcome army within our borders "liberating us" and they urinated on our dead, stayed after being asked to leave, and then shot a few bald eagles – I'd be rioting too, and I imagine so would you.
Well, maybe a sense of perspective would help.
The US could have turned Al Qaeda's operational home base of Afghanistan into a nuclear wasteland by the evening of September 11th back in 2001 and called it a day, which is undoubtedly what would have happened to us at the mercy of Islam had the roles been reversed on that day. But, because we're nice, we went in there and did our best to only blow up the people that were most directly responsible, and then we actually tried to do something proactive and help them rebuild their country into something that was not quite so much of a medieval hellhole to prevent it from happening again, which any sane person would look at as a mutually beneficial arrangement.
A trillion dollars and a decade later, this is what good will we've bought for our efforts. So, lesson learned, I guess, regarding the fruits of dealing reasonably with religious supremacist savages.
You can lead a horse to water, and all that...
GOP Mitt is DESPERATE ... and becareful deseparate people do deseparte things....
19 years ago today Islamic terrorists bombed the World Trade Center for the first time. Let Afghanistan riot and burn itself to the ground after we pull our troops out of there.
And the Oklahoma bomber was a former US Military Christian. Should we kill all US soldiers and Christians using your logic? Charles Manson was a US citizen. Should we kill all US cotizens because Manson was a US citizen?
He said let them kill themselves-not we kill them-learn to read and then try to comprehend-its called criticle thinking-
He didn't say kill them all, but he blamed them all as if all of them were personally responsible for 9/11. He doesn't want to kill them, he just wants them all to rot in hell.
What was he supposed to do? Cheer, laugh? In fact the burning of the Koran is an established method to destroy the books. Much like the the proper burial of the American flag is to burn it. These books contained hidden messages and other writings. I have no problem with Muslims killing Muslims, the less of them the safer the world is. But let us get out and let them kill each other.
An established proper way? Says who? In Islamic countries burning of the Koran is punishable by death. Not that I agree, but when occupying an Islamic country which you are trying to win the hearts and minds of the people, burning their most sacred book in front of Muslims isn't the smartest thing to do. If you want to burn the book to get rid of it at least do it in private so you don't cause the country that you are trying to win the hearts and minds of to riot against you.
It seems like simple logic to me.
Maybe so, but what we are accepting is that burning a book is something that makes killing innocent people okay? I don't buy that printed pages, no matter what they contain, are more valuable than human life. Any religion that makes burning their holy book punishable by death is one the world should not tolerate. We allow others to burn our flag, kill our soldiers, and we apologize? There was a time that anyone taking an American citizen hostage was in danger of swift and vicious retaliation. Now they kill our soldiers and we simply turn our backs. The liberals have turned this country into the United States of Pansies.
Whatever. We screwed up. We don't have to agree with Islam to respect its beliefs while occupying their country. Anybody with a half a brain knows that burning their book is one of the worst things you could do over there.
Obama opologizing for it is the right thing to do. Not even a month ago we for into trouble for peeing on their dead people for fun and now this. We are showing their people zero respect and Obama and Clinton are trying to put out the fires we keep starting and you guys think we shouldn't apologize because they are animals that don't deserve respect and you wonder why they don't like us.
Obama and Clinton are both clueless and gutless. Apologizing for insulting muslims is insanity. We should be sending in the Marines to protect Americans who are being attacked by muslim fanatics. For God's sake, they are killing Americans in revenge for damaging a few books. When we fail to defend or avenge groundless attacks on Americans, we put all Americans at greater risk.
Gee Hilary. It was ok to question the policy of W, but not the current president?
The Iraq war was planned before Bush was in office by the GOP. Rumsfelds think tank petitioned Clinton to invade Iraq before Bush was elected. bush hired Rumsfelf as Secretary of Defence. Cheney the VP had to quit his job at Haliburton just to become VP. bush and CO. Lied about the ties to Al Quaeda. They fabricated the WMD evidence. They demanded a UN vote to go to war. The UN voted NO. Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result. Our credibility in the world was crushed. We spent $1,000,000,000,000 on the war for no reason. After everybody found out it was all a lie Republicans re-elected Bush to another term.
You think there is no reason to criticize Bush for murdering 200,000 people and spending $1,000,000,000,000 for no reason?
Yep, you people and your mouths, you most have missed that Military explanation in con grease that explained everything to come if you add in the fact well you are stupid why should I tell you, go Hillary, f/n I am the authority retards. Congress voted for it after Bush did what let the military speak their mind in public, and then what happened smart one, owe I know your idiots and mimic what your told! And I am the idiot america, no wonder your failing at even robbing yourselves, der.
If you recall anyone ridiculing any of Bush's correspondence with foreign heads of state then you are having what is known as false memories. And in the past criticism during elections stayed within our country's borders. It's just more of the unprecedented contempt that Republicans exhibit towards our President.
Democratic president in charge. Democrats control the senate. Past presidents have been able to push out anything they've wanted with this kind of majority. Even when they don't control the senate. Bush passed bills his final two years in office and the Republicans had control of nothing. Yet, Democrats still come here. They still whine about the big republican boogeyman. They will probably spam filibuster (the talking points they were armed with) even though as I said, past presidents got what they wanted with less. I take bits and pieces from both parties and really don't have an allegiance to either. However, it is troubling the amount of whining and name calling Democrats do and only Democrats do. Makes me feel like I'm in kindergarten again. Why do you guys enjoy and wallow at the fact that you are the weak party? The victim party? That is so sad and shows nothing but weakness. I want my president to succeed whoever he is but our current president does nothing but demonizes rich people and conservatives. It isn't right because we are all AMERICANS first. Please, just stop with the name calling. Also, please stop watching MSNBC/FOX News. Try to get your news from somewhere that won't say what you want to hear. Thank you.
President Bush never had to contend with a congress that had taken an oath to make him fail... Furthermore, the racist vitriol leveled at this president is beyond the pale... and if you are denying that the racism is there, your are simply being ignorant of the obvious or intellectually dishonest.
Stick to the facts-U bring up race-no one else did-U see only your paty's propaganda-look for the truth dude!
Please. The dem's threatened to cut off funding for the Afghan war while W was president. Your memory stinks. They wanted the GOP to own defeat, but the moment they take power they stopped that rhetoric and funded the surge. The face of the dem's is pelosi and frank and the brilliant maxine waters. Own it.
So, let's see if I get this right...if we disagree with the president we are racists. What if it were a white president...oh, wait...Obama is half white. Your argument is invalid!
You say Bush got things passed even though Democrats had the majority? How is that not possible unless he got Democrats to work with him? Now that Obama is President the Republicans said NO to everything he has proposed from day one.
You say that Democrats have shown no respect and have demonized Republicans and that NO Republican has ever said anything derogatory about Obama. Really, not one Republican has ever said anything derogatory about Democrats or Obama? I can go down this list right here and list a hundred anti Obama derogatory comments. Are you blind?
Not that it matters. You are obviously a Republican and your party has never done anything wrong ever.
We lived with you idiots calling Bush STUPID for 8 years-you can even take 3 years-thin skinned I'd say!!
Then that settles it. It is now a war between Democrats and Republicans. We can all just hate each other to the core and do everything we can to hurt the other side no matter what the repercussions to America itself because hating each other is much more important than the fate of America and the world.
Obama has a hard time getting his own Democrats to go with him.
AND that is not the Republicans fault, no matter how hard you spin it.
"We are hoping that voices inside Afghanistan will join that of President Karzai and others in speaking out to try to calm the situation," Clinton said. "It is out of hand and it needs to stop."
So she wants to calm the situation in Afghanistan but fuel it in Syria by keep arming the rebels those Muslim extremist that just by this incident killed many Americans?? Doesn't she learn from her mistake you CANNOT arm Muslims. It's a trouble to the world. Then she goes on saying Clinton also said diplomatic efforts were under way to peel away support from Syria's President Bashar al-Assad. That is exactly what Israelis are doing now to peel away support from Obama where Netanyahu has reportedly recently urged America’s eighth-wealthiest person, his close friend Las Vegas casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson to pour millions directly into the campaigns of Republicans, including Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney. This would represent an unprecedented direct Israeli intervention into US presidential candidates’ campaigns, in order to try to avert a second Obama term. Reat RT news and Asia news...so what goes around comes around. The whole Obama administration should be careful how far and how big they dig.
You cannot arm Islams, Christians, Jews, Budhist or any other religion because all they are good for is starting wars.
I agree, Fed... My dad is the perfect example of "Christians clinging to guns and bibles"... it wasn't a stereotype... any time I bring someone out to meet the folks, it's "what religion are you" and "let me show you my gun collection." He forgets that the poor animals that find their way onto his property can't read the "no trespassing" signs...
US SHOWS CONCERN ABOUT HUMAN RIGHT IN SYRIA BUT AT THE SAME TIME US BURNS QUR'AN, (LAST TIME IT WAS FLORIDA KORAN BURNING) US CONCERN IS BOGUS, A DECEPTIVE LIE ON BEHALF OF UNBREAKABLE BOND ISRAEL.
Afghans rally for 6th day to condemn Qur'an desecration by US-led forces Angry protesters have rallied in Afghanistan for a sixth day in condemnation of the burning of the Holy Qur'an by the US-led forces in the war-ravaged country at a NATO airbase, Press TV reports
Have you no understanding of the situation? This was an accident. The books were slated for removal to an Afghan site, for various reasons. Somehow they were placed in the wrong bag, or box. The box was sealed, and nobody at the burning site saw inside the boxes - so they didn't do it on purpose.
It may indeed be a horrible sacrilege. But so is war of any kind, and this is NOT the worst thing that has happened in this war. This was not an atrocity perpetrated by the United States - it was an accident, perhaps an awful one - with absolutely no malice intended. Direct your hatred towards the Taliban, who still commit PURPOSEFUL atrocities.
Obviously this is the trap Republicans want to catch Obama in by claiming America is supporting a particular government in Syria!!!! There is a rebellion in Syria it has nothing to do with Clinton or Obama, if we had culpability in this it would be all over the news in an election year. SO QUIT TRYING TO MAKE AN ISSUE OUT OF A NON ISSUE, STUPID
HAS AMERICA BEEN DIVIDED SO FAR DOWN THE MIDDLE WE HAVE BOTH SIDES FIGHTING THREATENING SUICIDE IF THE OTHER DOESN'T SURRENDER????
Gosh Hilary, thanks for reminding us that in campaigns "...things are said that are not going to be put into practice or policy". Politicians really do believe the American public is butt dumb. The American public's real issue is that they don't have the time or patience to deal with all the lies, so we throw our hands up in the air and say F it.
I have news for you: Americans (well, at least 62,040,610 of them) really ARE "butt dumb"...
Mrs. Clinton the Secretary General made it clear three months ago when she said that the insurgents in Syria are well-equipped and well-trained. Who did provide weapons to those people? Therefore, now she is saying out in the open that the regime is going to fall...what else she has under her sleeve?? and it's really ironic how she is saying it: We have a lot of contacts, as do other countries – a lot of sources within the Syrian government and the business community and minority communities – and our message is the same to all of them: 'You cannot continue to support this illegitimate regime because it is going to fall,'" she said.....
It's not her call..if these people want to keep supporting their government it's their choice. You cannot impose it on them. It's like saying you can no longer support president Obama because he is going to fall next election.
Johnny, if your who you say you are then you of all people know the financial sector was created for one thing the control of wealth!!!!!! I happen to work in the financial sector early on but moved on to be an innovator & entrepreneur by creating something out of nothing. AS OPPOSED TO YOU SOMEONE THAT MAKES MONEY OFF THE BACKS OF A SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE ECONOMIC WEALTHY OF EVERYONE BY PROXY THROUGH COMPLEXED LAWS IN A FIXED MARKET!!!!! SO YOU CAN PRETEND ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOUR NOTHING MORE THAN A PRODUCT OF A SYSTEM THAT IS COLLAPSING WHETHER YOU SEE IT OR NOT.
HOW YOU GET OFF TO TALKING TO ANYONE LIKE YOU WORK HARD AND THEIR LAZY SIMPLY ILLUSTRATES MY POINT. JUST BECAUSE YOU RUN ON YOUR COMMUTER EVERYDAY TO AN OFFICE DOESN'T MEAN YOU'VE EVER WORKED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE. CLOWN
MORE OVER YOU DON'T SOUND VERY EDUCATED BY YOUR STATEMENTS BUT ONE CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR LOYALTY TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM YOU WOULD BE NOTHING BUT AN OVERPAID SPECULATOR AT BEST.
BUT WHILE YOUR AT IT WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US ALL SOME INVESTMENT TIPS, OR DO YOU SPECIALIZE IN SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE CAN INVEST IN???? LIKE THE OIL SECTOR WHAT A BUNCH OF CORRUPTION
THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH THAT SHOULD BE YACKING IS A WALL STREET HACK!!!!!!!!! DID YOU SELL ANYONE SOME BUNDLED SECURITIES THIS WEEK!!!!! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO A MARKET PLACE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WALL STREET HAS DONE TO THE WORLD ECONOMY??????? YOU DON'T SO IM WASTING MY TIME
OH IM REPUBLICAN VOTE REPUBLICAN MY WHOLE LIFE BUT I WILL BE VOTING DEMOCRAT AND THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET WILL BE WINNING OR AMERICA WILL BE GOING DOWN THE TOILET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!
SO WHILE IM AT IT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHINA KICKING OUR ECONOMIC AS SSES ???? Was that just an accident or was it Wall Street???? What do you think????
You are a liar. If you worked the financial sector for real you wouldn't be a looney tunes moron ranting on this message board in full caps. You wish you worked in the financial sector. In your dreams you might have. But the reality is your philosophy degree isn't getting you anywhere in life and in your world that is everyone else's fault but your. Gets bent you child.
As Obama, follower of Reverend Wright, continues to take taxpayer paid vacations, plays golf and takes endless corrupt fund raising trips American heroes die because of his idiotic Vietnam type rules of engagement. His politically correct war is doomed to failure because he worships Raghead values and hate American values. He brings his soiled dirty laundry into the White-house, perpetuates the largest cover up in American history and brings Chicago Style Corruption to America. When will the Obamacrits in the press admit the truth? The teleprompter in chief's administration is a complete and utter failure.
I guess you don't remember that this country was almost in a second depression, and that we were despised around the world for invading a country (Iraq) without just cause after 8 long years of George Bush and his Republican friends. I suppose you also can't admit to yourself that Obama has made significant progress on many fronts in the past 3 years despite near-unanimous opposition from the other party. And I suspect that you will be making the same irrational comments when Obama easily wins reelection.....
The inflation/depression that is in our near future is going to make the last 3 years look like a time of great financial wealth. The fed has been printing money like it was going out of style which has caused the dollar to become weak and our goods more expensive.
No kidding, DC, huh? Every other word reads right from a Fox News/Limbaugh screed.
i really like her. if you don't you are not intelligent.
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, (who, you may recall was a Republican, and Bush's Secretary of State), said:
"There are ways to deal with a country such as Syria and the leadership of Syria that don't involved reaching into a toolbox and pulling out an invasion plan."
Was a Republican until they hung him out to dry. Powel quit and then voted for Obama after the Iraq blunder.
Colin Powell is the last of the moderate Republicans that could harness the respect of liberals and conservatives alike. But look what happened to him, he was sidelined by the Bush administration!
"I find it somewhat troubling that our politics would enflame such a dangerous situation in Afghanistan,"
She is so funny 'enflame' isn't exactly what the US is doing to inflame the situation in Syria. I'm Homsi from Homs and the so called free syrian army are bad people they are the one who organized the fire in the merchant stores. And now they have the two wounded journalists and it's not letting Red crescent in to help them. There is power and internet in Homs. The SCa that Mrs Clinton talking about do not represent us. We are not selling our countries to Galioun and Saudi Arabia. There are other position but Clinton doesn't want to talk to.
Clinton already used a free get out of jail card for her husband, thats why her group doesn't represent anything.