Clinton: Syria opposition credible
February 23rd, 2012
01:44 PM ET

Clinton: Syria opposition credible

By Elise Labott and Adam Levine

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the opposition Syrian National Council is emerging as an alternative to the Bashar al-Assad regime and that the consensus opinion among Arab League and other nations is that the group is a credible representative.  Diplomats tell CNN that the opinion will be reflected in the communique to be issued from the Friends of Syria conference on Friday in Tunisia.

The Obama administration has been conflicted about the opposition. Just last week, top intelligence and military officials spoke of how undefined the opposition is. But it seems the U.S. is moving towards supporting the opposition even with concerns about who they are comprised of.

The Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Armed Services Committee in testimony that the opposition is "fractured" and "localized." Clapper said the Syrian National Council doe not have command over the opposition groups noting that another entity, the Free Syrian Army, is not connected.

"There is not a national movement, even though there is a - a title of - the Syrian National Council, but a lot of that is from external, exiles and the like. But there is not a unitary connected opposition force. It's very local. It's on a community by community basis," Clapper said. "In fact in some communities, the opposition is actually providing municipal services as though it's running the community and - and trying to defend itself against attacks from the Syrian regime controlled military."

General Martin Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that the group was not clearly defined.

"I would challenge anyone to clearly identify for me the opposition movement in Syria at this point," Dempsey said.

Clapper, in the hearing last week, even warned the opposition has been infiltrated by Al Qaeda elements, maybe without the opposition knowing about it.

"Another disturbing phenomenon that we've seen recently apparently is the presence of extremists who have infiltrated the opposition groups. The opposition groups in many cases may not be aware they are there," Clapper said.

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    April 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Reply
  7. joe cool

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    February 24, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Reply
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    February 24, 2012 at 11:07 am | Reply
  9. David

    Why they call it It's . Infiltrating weapon to the rebels i.e. Muslim extremist (people argue it’s not the same..ya ya, we’ve heard it before) is the biggest mistake the US and NATO doing secretly. Per Reuter: in Africa’s east and west, Islamist militant groups now pose serious security challenges to key countries and potentially even a threat to the continent’s new success. They face growing battles with Islamist groups; Kenya throwing troops into neighbouring Somalia in pursuit of al Shabaab fighters, Nigeria struggling with bombings and shootings by its homegrown Boko Haram sect. And they are all using US weapons. Who is infiltrating these weapons? Think hard. Then we have Mrs. Imperialist Clinton is concerned about civilians specifically in Syria. Once you arm rebels (Muslims). That’s it kiss it good bye. The Brotherhood's take has become more aggressively conservative http://gulfnews .com/news/region/syria/the-growing-brotherhood-crescent-of-the-middle-east-1 .985449 Who encouraged Muslim Brothers to come to power in Egypt?? Isn’t the US?
    In Syria: Christians Afraid To Go Out At Night, Ask For Prayer – February 24, 2012
    Do you know why? Because Muslims are targeting them and the US wants to further arm rebels or Free Syria Army i.e. Muslim extremist. Lovely we kill our own. http://www
    Even a priest of the Church of England finding it so odd, father Peter Mullen. Read: http://blogs .telegraph .co .uk/news/petermullen/100137025/our-foreign-policy-on-syria-is-the-same-as-al-qaedas-something-isnt-right-here/

    February 24, 2012 at 10:50 am | Reply
    • Sean

      You are absolutely right!! I do not know whey the American politicians do not see it? It is clear like black and white yet they always make the wrong decision and support terrorists over moderate governments, in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya and now in Syria. Unlivable!

      February 24, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Reply
  10. Ratstew

    So let me get this straight. Obama is more that willing to arm Mexican drug lords through Fast and Furious, but he is not willing to send arms to the Syrian rebellion. That shows me where his priorities are.

    February 24, 2012 at 10:41 am | Reply
    • mm

      RATSTE: Do a little research..."Fast and Furious" was started by the Bush administration. But it's easier to blame everything on our president. Is he to blame for your ignorance too?

      Here's how it works: A foreign government fills out an application to buy weapons from private gun manufacturers in the U.S. Then the State Department decides whether to approve. And it did approve 2,476 guns to be sold to Mexico in 2006. One weapon – an AR-15-type semi-automatic rifle – tells the story. In 2006, this same kind of rifle – tracked by serial number – is legally sold by a U.S. manufacturer to the Mexican military. Three years later – it's found in a criminal stash in a region wracked by Mexican drug cartel violence. That prompted a "sensitive" cable, uncovered by WikiLeaks, dated June 4, 2009, in which the U.S. State Department asked Mexico "how the AR-15" – meant only for the military or police – was "diverted" into criminal hands. And, more importantly, where the other rifles from the same shipment went: "Please account for the current location of the 1,030 AR-15 type rifles," reads the cable. There's no response in the record. The State Department audits only a tiny sample – less than 1 percent of sales – but the results are disturbing: In 2009, more than a quarter (26 percent) of the guns sold to the region that includes Mexico were "diverted" into the wrong hands, or had other "unfavorable" results.

      RATSTEW: You are nothing more than another example of ignorance.

      February 24, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
    • Pladro

      The "conservatives" are pulling every trick on the book against Obama; conflict=war= gas up = bad economy.= too bad for 99%= republicans dont' care!!!
      arming the rebels= conflict= call for war= Obama wont' go there= republicans hot button!!!

      February 24, 2012 at 11:39 am | Reply
    • eorge Reichel

      We need to mind our own business.Our sorry politicians don't give a flip about those arabs.Give me a breaqk.

      February 24, 2012 at 10:16 pm | Reply
  11. Ben

    The same statements they made about the Libyan opposition...which have now fallen into a civil war that CNN won't report on.

    February 24, 2012 at 10:35 am | Reply
  12. 4commonsensenow

    If Mrs.Clinton had her way, the US would be going into Syria and Iran at the same time.Hmm sounds like the start of ww3. I know this woman will not ever back down. How can she with her penis flapping in the wind.

    February 24, 2012 at 9:19 am | Reply
    • Socrates

      Clinton, Obama and their bosses, the Israeli/Jews are going to have a great surprise when they see that Al-quad ea is pretty much within the opposition of the Syrian government, who are also not a pretty boys. However, the fanaticism for Israel of this old lady, Clinton is so strong that she doesn't care; she just want to see another enemy of Israel going down. Let's be clear, Assad is a fascist not better than Natanjahu, the same garbage just different country. La Clinton is showing us her real face as an Israeli/American ambassador.

      February 24, 2012 at 10:21 am | Reply
      • rick

        syrians killing syrians, muslims killing muslims and all you can obsess about is Israel? The main reason for your chaos appears to be a failure to take responsibility for your own deficiencies. good luck with your blame game

        February 24, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • abtime

      what an ugly thing to say about someone you surely know nothing about. Sec of State Hillary Clinton is acting in the best interest of the Syrian people. The 2 year old who died of shrapnel through its little chest, whom Marie Colvin gave her life to tell us about, deserve the US taking measures to bring this holocust to an end, by any means necessary.

      February 24, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
  13. hangar13

    Come on Hil, give us a break. It was just a few months ago you were saying Assad was a reformer. I'm sure you've conveniently forgotten that like you have all your other missteps, and the non-Fox media certainly won't remind you. Odd that everyone in the world knew Assad was a brutal dictator except the US Secretary of State. You should be fired along with whoever appointed you and every Senator who voted to confirm you.

    February 24, 2012 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • HelpingHand

      The rebels are so credible Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Al-Qaeda support them!

      February 24, 2012 at 9:11 am | Reply
      • Mike D

        You ever think that AL-Qaeda claimed to be involved just to prevent US support?

        February 24, 2012 at 9:12 am |
      • HelpingHand

        Why is that? The intervention would give more reason for Al-Qaeda to go on their killing sprees.

        February 24, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • Rags

      The clueless complain the loudest.

      February 24, 2012 at 10:19 am | Reply
  14. john smiith

    Now that Hillary has weighed in, I feel a lot better

    February 24, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • Jim

      Shutup Hilary – and go knit a sweater

      February 24, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply
      • logos1787

        Jim–that's rude. And shouldn't you be studying? That GED isn't gonna earn itself.

        February 24, 2012 at 9:27 am |
      • dhondi

        I agree, that was rude, she should be in the kitchen, not knitting a sweater.

        February 24, 2012 at 10:47 am |
      • Leroy Jenkins

        LOL @ logos1787

        February 24, 2012 at 11:39 am |
  15. Willie12345

    Oh Boy ! Oh Boy ! Oh Boy ! Does this mean we can have another "presidential adventure" ? A big one, where the sons and daughters of the poor and middle class die while the political elite cheer them on ? One where no politician or wealthy person will send their sons or daughters ?

    February 24, 2012 at 8:44 am | Reply
    • nuwansam

      We didn't loose any poor sons and daughter in Libya with that presidential adventure to get rid of Gaddafi. But yes we lost a lot of them when Texas cowboy G. Bush had his adventure in Iraq.

      February 24, 2012 at 9:54 am | Reply
    • enkephalin07

      You know that people volunteer for the armed forces, right? No one is forced, they can join as informed or as ignorant as they like. Even college educated kids with civilian career prospects will volunteer, though it's funny how most of those types left during the Bush administration, before 9/11.

      February 24, 2012 at 10:06 am | Reply
      • edog355

        Yeah you're right it is still, technically, voluntary to be in the military. Certainly there are so many other options, outside of the military, for poor kids who don't have the $ for college but don't want to work at the 7-11 their entire lives. Last time I checked unemployment is sky high and even those with skills and experience can't find work.

        February 24, 2012 at 10:59 am |
  16. Wise solution


    How can the Highness Hilery Clinton just jump into support the opposition who she does not even know exactly good or bad...
    It is just outragious to go to decide for other country's policy or at least respect their people to vote. That brutal leader may be just try to defend the opposition's riot as some are in peaceful demonstration other took the chance to attack and so got strike back and war is there. WATCH OUT WHO YOU SUPPORT THE BEST IS TO NEUTRAL AND ASK ALL BOTHER SIDES TO STOP FIGHTING ...SERIOUSLY

    February 24, 2012 at 8:26 am | Reply
    • cedaly1968

      She said they were emerging, not that they were the clear group to follow.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:37 am | Reply
  17. edsr of Dallas

    Hillary is a "warlover" and she has deteriorated mentally since becoming Secretary of State. I believe she has turned into a nutcase just like her "boss"!

    February 24, 2012 at 8:24 am | Reply
    • Mark Knox

      Wow- stupid statements like that just give away the fact that Rush has his big fat hand up your back pulling your strings.

      February 24, 2012 at 11:19 am | Reply
  18. Mark Bernadiner

    Clinton has a connection to Muslim Brotherhood through DOS employees and support this fascist organization that aims to overcome American democratic system..

    February 24, 2012 at 8:18 am | Reply
    • Leroy Jenkins

      ear....take another hit and pass it on....

      February 24, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
  19. Markos

    She ordered the assassination of Moamar! Blood in her hands, blood in U.S' hands.

    February 24, 2012 at 8:17 am | Reply
    • edsr of Dallas

      Yes......she ASKED for his assassination! She made that public when she traveled to Libya. She is a definite "nutcase" and needs to be farmed out.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:25 am | Reply
    • rick

      coo coo!

      February 24, 2012 at 11:56 am | Reply
  20. Ebrahim

    we do not want in our country foreign military intervention we know what happen in Iraq and Afganistan incent people murdered we hilikopter racism were commen anti islam specially U.S.A military we do not want see in our land. we will do what we can do better for our people

    February 24, 2012 at 5:26 am | Reply
    • Karengp

      I do not trust any muslim and do not want any more of our people's blood shed for a bunch of back stabbing people. So I pray our government does stay out of it.

      February 24, 2012 at 6:36 am | Reply
      • cedaly1968

        I don't agree about trusting muslims, that is too broad of a statement. I do agree that we not put boots on the ground. And it has not been suggested yet that we do that. It has been suggested we arm rebels, likely by sending arms to Arab League allies (we have one or two) who will arm the rebels for us. May a strategic use of a Tomahawk or two to knock out weapons used to shell Homs. I doubt the US has ANY interest in boots on the ground unless those boots are Special Operations to provide training. We know al-Qaida is there (Syria helped them in Iraq) so lots of caution moving forward.

        February 24, 2012 at 8:41 am |
  21. Randall K. Smith

    The Syrian rebels don't control much territory; just tiny enclaves. And they are not unified or coordinated. In some cases, these opposition groups hate each other more than they do the Assad regime. It is too risky to give weapons and support to small groups within Syria that cannot be trusted to challenge the Assad regime and may only end up fighting each other, possibly with involvement of al Qaeda elements infiltrating these enclaves. Moreover, from a military perspective, Syria is a mountainous, landlocked nation, which would make it far more difficult for the international community to even attempt to assist a rebellion against the Assad regime. With China and Russia holding veto power in the U.N. Security Council, no international consensus on military intervention is even possible, so the best thing to do is to apply economic sanctions against Syria; within weeks or months, a cash shortage will cause more defections of officers from Assad's military forces. When enough officers defect, Assad's supporters will seek exit strategies and his days will be numbered.

    February 24, 2012 at 4:49 am | Reply
    • Mark Knox

      Well said. It's funny how an intelligent assessment of the situation stands out so markedly among all the yapping of partisan lapdogs. There is truth and there is spin (and there is also just rambling) and these posts have too little of the former and are dominated by the latter.

      February 24, 2012 at 11:23 am | Reply
  22. John

    The key points is : 1)NATO , 2) west.
    Arab nationalists (like Al-Qaeda or Hamas friendly) dont want / ask for external help for syrian resistance.
    So , any move from NATO/west needs caution for now.
    And help only if Syrians rebels ask for (from NATO/west/allies).

    February 24, 2012 at 4:41 am | Reply
    • newsreel

      They did clearly asked for it, and it was posted by CNN a few days ago. You probably missed that.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:20 am | Reply
  23. Vladimir


    February 24, 2012 at 4:33 am | Reply
    • penilenvy

      as a matter of fact, we have grown consistently more stupid with each passing wolrd war!!!

      February 24, 2012 at 7:11 am | Reply
    • Dave

      I agree – there is and always has been a war going on somewhere in the world – maybe we should become more war like than we are now and not look for an excuse to go to war – just go for it!!

      February 24, 2012 at 7:58 am | Reply
    • cedaly1968

      I disagree. Bush sent troops in. Obama prefers to support local groups and use tactical weapons. The US doctrine on intervention is more clearly laid out in Libya than what has occurred in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:43 am | Reply
  24. Vladimir

    USA and RUSSIA and CHINA and MIddle east all have mutual interests but strategically they are enemies. In the end, there is not enough resources for everybody so big WW3 is inavitable. The question is when and in what form it will occure. Lets hope the elite of the world has not decided to kill most of the worlds population. Because it seems like they have decided it and just waiting for something to start happening soon. World financial system today is one big pyramid waiting to colapse. World leaders today are controled by big business and business is controled by Banks. Thats it. Humans have learned alot in physics and chemistry but know very little in political sience and social sience. We have not invented anything better then WAR.

    February 24, 2012 at 4:19 am | Reply
    • newsreel

      In general, I don't disagree that big wars, both WW I and WW II were about fighting for resources. But what amazes me, is that resources can actually be shared and negotiated in a peaceful way to benefit everyone, so why they still go to war ? Look at the period from the last WW II., from 1945 to now, it's been more than 65 years. There has been no big wars over resources, but everyone is still doing well and prosper, including America, Europ, Asia. So, it proves that fighting over resources is a waste of time & energy.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:32 am | Reply
  25. OneRussian

    Everything what comes from the mouth of this ....... is not credible.
    Everyone with brains know all this was planned long time ago and just turned out of control with Al-Quaeda being serious fraction of that "opposition".
    Arm it and give them money.....probably they will use that like they did before.

    February 24, 2012 at 3:44 am | Reply
  26. best

    im no expert on foreign affairs, i dont have the info that our hard working government does, but i dont think america should be so involved in the middle east. bush started all this, and now the world seems to revolve around islam. when i was a kid i knew nothing about islam, nowadays we are wrapped around their dirty finger! i feel for any civilians in crossfire, so we should send medical aid, and continue to influence them diplomatically, but let islam sort our its own mess in syria. they all hate usa.

    February 23, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Reply
    • Manny

      this has nothing to do with Islam, its all about an incompetent leader who is killing his own people. Why does everyone always blame everything on Islam, as if its the cause of everything wrong in the world?

      February 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Reply
      • nom de guerre

        because everyone else but you knows that islam is responsible for all its accused of. why not do some research and see what you find.

        February 24, 2012 at 6:54 am |
  27. Insan Mukmin

    The US policy in the Middle East is too closely linked to Israel. There is no question Israel wants regime change in Syria because Assad is a strong supporter of Israel's enemies, Hamas and Hezbollah. But there is the danger that Islamic fundamentalists and Al-Qaeda will take over if Assad falls. I think in this case the Military General and Intelligence has got it right and Hilary Clinton has got it wrong.

    February 23, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Reply
    • bangalore

      Change is always uncertain.............freedom and democracy and self determination is worth it! Unless of course you think a malviolent dictator is better!

      February 23, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Reply
    • newsreel

      This case has nothing to do with Israel, you only see it because you don't like Israel "supposedly" influence in US government as some people think. This is purely the Arab spring effect. Most countries in the Arab world have been under dictatorship, they are now starting to wake up one by one, they simply can't take it anymore. And seeing the successful revolutions from their neighbours, Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, only encourage them more. Again, the cause is clear, and it has nothing to do with Israel. I am not even pro-Israel, I just call it fairly.

      February 24, 2012 at 8:41 am | Reply
  28. olotata

    It was a mistake to put clinton to such an important position. She has destroyed american position in to world.

    February 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Reply
    • Paulbip

      And what is America's position in the world? Are you talking about the American Empire?

      February 24, 2012 at 3:55 am | Reply
  29. best

    I understand negotiating peace, but deals with the taliban? possibly arming opposition groups that al quaeda backs? this doesnt add up. hillary is supposed to be for women's rights, does she realize how these islamic nations treat women/girls? america gets involved for oil, etc, but i dont trust the middle east, and dont think we should spend more money or human lives there. they play chess over there and want america to knock off their opponents! we cant trust any of those nations. keep the $$ in america!

    February 23, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Reply
  30. captainlightfoot

    Oh well,i guess it shows people can change for the worse. The U.S. Needs to stay in their lane and regroup. We need to stregthen America and not let those flip flopping Republicans get the White Hous

    February 23, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Reply
  31. best

    I understand that we generically had to apologize for the quran burning, but enough. we seem to be kissing these islam nations butts way too much. they talk about washing their filthy hands before picking up their precious 'book', but do those same filthy animals wash their hands before they brutally cut off little girls clitoris'? their own little girls sit naked with legs spread screaming as men hold them down and a male doctor brutally cuts off her private area; yet these people are offended by a book?

    February 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Reply

    assad over staying his well kum.

    February 23, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Reply
  33. mipolitic

    obama may try to start something without being heavily involved .

    after libya the cat is out of the bag. but that dog will not hunt

    February 23, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Reply
  34. urmomlol

    This is the same woman who just last year was assuring us that Assad was a "reformer."

    February 23, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Reply
  35. SolongIranianthugs

    The Iranian regime is finally expiring.
    Your proxies are done-
    Bahrain- failed Iranian-forced regime change.
    Your Disruption of a peaceful country has been squashed.
    Hamas- Palestinians have realized the Iranian regime HATEs Palestinian Sunni Islamic practice. Hamas has been used for Iranian military hegemony
    Hezbollah- cut by its balls . Thank you majority of the syrians who have cut the supply line.
    Syria- your biggest ally, gone. In reality, a minority doesn't rule a majority. Syrians are redrawing the map after imperialists messed it up firstly.
    Russia and china are not the regime's friends.
    It's just business. Saudis will replace Iran oil.
    I'm not a fan of Israel , they have been guilt tripping us since ww2.
    Let's put Israel in new Mexico or Texas.
    I'm tired of hearing about Israel.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Reply
  36. Charles Bowen

    Assassinate Assad Now.......... Charles Bowen Solomon Stone

    February 23, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Reply
    • Palestine is Jordan

      Syrians need to Assassinate Assad to aid their revolution and save lives

      February 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
    • Lebanon

      Charles Bronson could have taken care of Assad with one of his one-liners.

      "you believe in Jesus?
      Youre gonna meet 'im

      February 23, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  37. GO ASSAD


    February 23, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Reply
    • Charles Bowen

      Sick Pup....... Charles Bowen Solomon Stone

      February 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Reply
    • tj

      Russia and china need the USA worse then they need Syria

      February 23, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
  38. Palestine is Jordan

    So what is the total of deaths by now?
    Arabs can continue to kill each other if it pleases them.

    February 23, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Reply
  39. Robert E

    One side laying down its arms does not a Ceasefire make and the Arab League, a group of mainly totalitarian regimes, are hardly legitimate advocates for freedom. Russia and China will not let the West dominate the Middle East. Historically, revolutionaries who are out numbered and out gunned escape to neighboring countries and continue the overthrow in safety. Those truly fighting for democracy don't want their fellow countrymen, future voters, women and children dying like flies around them like flies. But if you want the West to step in as they have promised, the uglier the killings the sooner the west will help. What is really pathetic are the people who are starving and dying as unknowingly pawns in this action.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Reply
  40. Arizona Yankee

    This administration is so inept it is incredible, and sadly includes Clinton. She is a huge disappointment to me...This is the beginning of US intervention or weapons supply. If they do it, it is much to late...They should go after Iran, and that will knock out Syria also...

    February 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Reply
    • Christopher Walken's less talented twin.

      Oh, yes, I too, yearn for the..........efficiency..........of the Bush administration.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      I do believe that going into Syria is a strike at Iran, his best friend in the region. That is the problem. With a Russian war ship sitting off the coast of Syria and an Iranian one on its way, I see no reason to rush headlong in WWIII because our insane leaders have decided to pick this region to begin the war. We are broke and war is imminent, as it was in WWII. Stop and think.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Reply
      • Kandi

        Exactly. It is their war. Let them fight for independence and their democracy. This country fought GB for our freedom so what is wrong with other countries. It is also a regional problem. Let the Arabs spend their oil money to clean up.

        February 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
      • Buzzer

        Drop the whole "WWIII" scenario...I've heard that several times now even with Iran. Right now only humanitarian aid is in the works and arming the rebels is only at the "discussion" level. Further even IF the U.S. went so far as to actually park an aircraft carrier off the Syrian coast and unilaterally start striking Syria, the Russians wouldn't risk a full blown military confrontation with the U.S. to defend a 3rd rate weapons supplied "client state". Get a grip... Russia will not intervene militarily, just like they didn't for Iraq in 1991/2002, and Serbia in you won't even get regional players such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq or Iran to come to Syria's "aid" and confront the U.S. militarily.

        This statement above is FACT and I'll piggyback with Kandi this is a REGIONAL problem, anyone who retorts try to keep the discussion "on point", contained specifically to what I said, and not off into a tangent about the perceived "flaws" in U.S. foreign policy...

        February 23, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • Idris

      It's evident that the US has changed or is changing its stance on foreign affairs. I dont think the US should always jump so quick to intervene in other country's affairs. After 2 wars that was part of putting us in this recession, it only makes sense for the US to always approach with patience, caution and common sense. The Obama administration is doing quite well with foreign policy. Attention should be focused more on domestic issues. Unfortunately lives have been lost, but did the US cause this? People are losing their lives here due to poverty, and other socio – economy related issues...we need to know our priorities!

      February 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Reply
    • mipolitic

      well "yankee",

      after reading your post i must declare you are RIGHT !

      February 23, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Reply
  41. safari

    I don't know what the answer is, but my opinion is this. Stay the hell out of Syria, Libya, get the hell out of Afghanistan, and as the bible states, "the meek shall inherit the earth." Maybe the meek can start with Syria. And at the same time, we can get our own Country straightened out.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Reply

    What Assad has to realize is that if he intends to spend the rest of his life with his family, he'd better step down now because eventually the west is going to take military action to stop him and at the end, if he doesn't end up with the same faith as Ghadaffi, he would eventually end up being detained in an ICC prison detention like Saif Ghadaffi to answer for crimes against humanity. Its that simple! And I admire Yemen's President because he knew when enough was enough and when it was time to step down simply because no one person is bigger than the masses!

    February 23, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      Russia has a warship sitting off the coast of Syria. Iran just sent a warship through the Canal. We need to step away from this situation and let Russia, China, the Arabs, and their various weaponry fight this one out.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Reply
    • Joe

      You need to realise you and you war mongering leaders are actually scared of the russians.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Reply
      • SolongIranianthugs

        Russia is just marking it's territory by lifting a leg.
        The bigger dogs have no fear of Russia/china.
        The west, the arab league, almost all of Asia[even Myanmar !] are for the freedom from Assad[Iran] for syrians.
        That's the whole world against a few gangsters

        February 23, 2012 at 6:18 pm |

    I believe some two billion dollars are still unaccounted for in Iraq and the money disappeared faster than that of MF Global. And if you're a rightwing supporter, better not complain about how things are progressing in Libya because while progress is slow and is expected, ten years later GWB and the GOP are yet to realize their so-called democracy in Iraq as violence continue to spraed and escalate and Iraqi civilians are constantly being the victims of tribal warfare day in and day out.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Reply
    • Buzzer

      This idea of "democracy" in Iraq was solely on the shoulders of GOP?...hate to break it to you but 40% of the House Democrats and 58% of the Senate Democrats voted in favor of the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002"...nice try on deflecting sole responsibility onto one party.

      February 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Reply
  44. Rich

    Great job security clearance section but this is not my queen since I do not know how to protect my family from a cowardly itch...


    It's that crazy middle east oil thing again that my mule status
    collapsing a democracy to protect a child m urdering dictator somehow
    added to for no reason this time around!!

    In 73 and 78 it was a little more than one of today's political bullet
    point like how to position a TEWOW attack on top of our North Korean
    dictatorship -that is impossible to prevent but virtually non existent-
    that my child m urdering poet is turning into a rock solid dictatorship
    -with more power than all dictators on the face of the earth put
    together – so no two people can lawfully talk about it so we can focus
    in on that crazy middle east oil thing and how to position and align
    that with social justice in the form of pain at the pump for everyone to
    protect one man's character!!

    It's a little unfair Jimmy that your geopolitical was working against
    the raw realities of these geo-political and economic factors while
    holding all our value here at home while our liberal itch jettisons
    them all and collapses a way of life and democracy here at home only to
    directly cause these geo-political factors to go against us as well
    exclusively to save this war criminal and perverts reputation...

    Maybe my contribution to this won't be so bad and maybe some other
    factors will be inserted so it doesn't exclusively look like it is the
    direct fault of my media and political t rash dancing on top of other
    innocent life along Obama's negative reality..

    I am a social justice supporting Senator in the face of those big bad Republicans!!!

    Actually it won't be nearly as bad as 73 or 78 but given the fact we are the direct cause, compounded by the fact it was all a plain of alternate reality, speaks volumes about us...


    Agent #2 has been monitoring all of this:)

    Actually it is baked into all of us HU because some of the orders came directly from the man in charge and worked flawlessly because during periods of enormous stress there are little tears in the reality in front of you that are impossible to articulate but show extraordinary design behind every decision we all make and that is why I do not care how my thread "appears" when it leaves life's stage...because a got a chance for one turn at his record and in a matter of minutes I put the most powerful man in the world inside of my imagination making one of history's most shameful pucks one of the stupidest as well..and what does he do but decide to go full stream against the most awesome power that put him in his place so his insecure and pathetic as can come out looking start on top of as as many of his citizens as he is some kind of weirdo...not wise HU even for a gambling man...

    He sees you Hu...

    you tube com/watch?v=Cklb7L0OA1c

    February 23, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      As I have said in every other room you have scrolled and trolled this nonsense. You just need to s h u t up. Also, it is obvious from the time of day that you are a STUDENT.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Reply
  45. Donnie the Lion

    We should address military objectives in quantifiable terms, not open-ended reconstruction. The Middle East is not like Europe or the Americas, we should consider options such as bribing the Syrian Army, arming the opposition, etc. but only in terms of eliminating Assad. As messy as the Libyan situation was, in was handled better than Iraq and Afghanistan. Ground troops tend to bring your capabilities down to the level of your enemy. We've got financial and technological advantages over our enemies, let us use those first.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
    • Jon Dough

      Very well said; if a more logical approach such as this was taken, maybe we could HELP STOP THIS INSANITY sooner.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      These warring Muslims are animals. And I apologize to the animal kingdom for that remark. They will never and have never stopped fighting. Sunni or Shi'ite, black or white, bread or butter...a warring people who serve a god of forces. Stand clear!

      February 23, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Reply
      • cinghoa

        It's such a good thing that no xtian sect has ever been responsible for death or tyranny. You xtian hypocrites can't stand a point differing from yours, and are quick to point out that someone is at fault for the hard times but always fail to see the faults of your own false religion.

        February 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  46. rightospeak

    Oh my , Clinton created the opposition to keep us in endless wars , despite the fact that we are broke. What a success ! Have your husband checked lately how the sweatshops are going in Haiti ? A lot of money was sent to give every citizen there at least a few thousand dollars-what happened to the money ?

    February 23, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Reply
  47. Chris

    This is a repeat for the Clintons... didn't they stand-by while hundreds of thousands of Rwandans got slaughtered in 1995 (?)?

    February 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Reply
    • Lord Haw-Haw

      The UN deserves a good chunk of the 'credit' for that debacle. On the other hand, Slick Willie did intervene on behalf of the Bosnian Muslims (while the Muslim world, Iran & Afghanistan excepted, offered no more than feeble 'protests')

      February 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Reply
      • toadears

        Exactly. Where are the Muslims? Why do they expect the rest of the world to care more about the slaughter of the people of their (weird pedo) faith than they themselves care?

        February 23, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
      • Lord Haw-Haw

        It's not that the Muslim people don't care – it's that, for the most part that they're 'governed' by Western backed despots who only care about retaining power at the expense of those they purport to 'serve'.

        February 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm |

    When Russia and China vetoed United Nations resolutions condemning the brutal atrocities of the Assad government, what they did was gave Assad a ticket of approval and the green light to kill more civilians along with western journalists. The experts said Russia and China's reluctance to condemn the Assad government is due in part to those two nations being allies and trade partners with Syria. However, who is to say that Russia and China can't condemn the Assad government and be allies and trade partners with a new Syrian government in the event that the Assad government was to topple? Russia and China shame on you!

    February 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
    • dreamer96

      Kinda like the U.S. in 1947 backing and over throw of Iran's government, because they wanted to nationalize their oil fields..then we backed the Shah...and the people did not like the Shah much. and Iran's hates the U.S. now...well the government does...The Iranian people are mostly younger well educated ..and can think for themselves but live under the Iranian government iron fist...

      I was hoping Russia and China would back the population and not a crazy Syrian leader....but Russia and China also know that any country run by Democracy can be taking over by foreign money and so no system is perfect...but this killing on mass is bad all the way around...and Russia has a military treaty with Al-Assad...and a sub base in Syria, and troops there too...firing on the base or Russian troops would be a huge mistake...they have a right to defend themselves...And China has agreements with Syria too...Russia and China were not happy how the Libya conflict turned from stopping the killing to a over throw of Gadhafi ...And remember how WWI got man killed and then all the military treaties took over and all of Europe was divided into two sides and fight over many died...and WWI lead to WWII a bigger mess..millions dead...

      February 23, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      If there was an active plan to bring Russia and China into a new and fair trade agreement, this would have already been over. Don't people realize yet that our world is being run by the criminally insane? Why did we trade bombs for the last 30 years with Russia in Afghanistan? We are all ruled by madmen. And most of them don't make many public appearances.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Reply
  49. bezboz

    She forgot to mention that they are: Fragmented, Islamists, and only represent the desires of 45% of the population at best.

    This "credible" opposition has no chance in toppling the regime on its own (even with the huge external political, media and monetary help). If this political game keeps going under the current rules, the only possible outcome is a civil war in Syria. The only way to avert a civil war is to force both sides to sit down and negotiate.

    February 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Reply
  50. Steve Jobs

    Islam is evil and has no good in it at all, Islam should be made illegal in all countries and Christianity should be forced on everyone..

    February 23, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
    • Stephen Graff

      Yeah. That's the solution: forcing Christianity on everyone. Just like right wing republicans are attempting to do all across our country. Of course, it will backfire as campaigns like this always do.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Reply
    • Malik

      You idiot, what does Islam have to do with a revolution in Syria?

      February 23, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Reply
      • g.r.r.

        The possibility that the revolution could bring in AQ backed ppl. That is why we have been taking things slowly. Now, we are finding out that these ppl just want democracy. It might have an lslam bent to it, but it will not be backed by murdering sociopathic AQ.

        February 23, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • toadears

      Oh look, a little troll! How was skewl today??

      February 23, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Reply
  51. Steve Jobs

    Obama is selling the US down the river.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Reply
    • toadears

      Keep casting those hooks in the water. Sooner or later you will get your desired outraged adult fish. lol

      February 23, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Reply
    • EddieboyS

      Please provide justification for your comment. Or are you just another right wing nut racist who vents general condemnation with no real or legitimate arguments in order to vent their hatred?

      February 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Reply
  52. Henry

    I've heard this before....that was her assessment about those muslim revolutionaries in Libya, Egypt, and etc. Yes, go ahead spend our hard earned, badly needed money over there and, if possibly, send our boys and girls over there to "incite" the revolution in Syria. See if our money and scarifies can buy any friendship over there.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • Steve Jobs

      We dont need friendship we have bombs...too many and we need to upgrade so its time to start dropping our bombs on the entire middle east. We need to sneak into Canada and send a nuke from there, no one will see it coming. brilliant plan if I say so myself.. i should be president of America.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Reply
      • Rstlne

        Methinks Canada would disagree!

        February 23, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
  53. Steve Jobs

    Sometimes a lot of death is the only way to fix something.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • dhondi

      Seems like that is our only way to fix something.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Reply
    • ManOffewWords

      That includes your death. Correct?

      February 23, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Reply
  54. Steve Jobs

    Israel is the best country and people in the world, we should hand over complete control of the US to Israel and let them do what needs to be done and our Muslim President wont do.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
  55. Steve Jobs

    If it wears rags its dirty and must be wiped clean from the face of th eearth.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Reply
  56. Steve Jobs


    February 23, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Reply
    • Malik


      February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Reply
  57. Rich

    Look at this self serving crap protecting their sorry as reputations and the worst dictator on the face of the Earth...please take this one down cause its been 5/5 in the last hour

    Because even on the surface it was this ordinary organism that caused my ucking boat to go under and when this liberal itch entered office he had a stupid profound look of all the challenges ahead like he was God's gift to the world and decided to make no one mad and at a point in our nation's history when it was easiest to dismantle it because he became afraid of it with the political topic easiest to exploit but that has the greatest impact on every single American -war powers on US soil – because everyone assumes they don't exist but anyone can have their lives gutted by it for absolutely no reason.

    So this stupid itch takes a full blown, but isolated, war crime in motion and started touching everyone- with no legal standard from the bottom -by the accumulated horror of our global pile of hit -with DOD from the top that can completely destroy the lives of anyone that refuses to add to the destruction of someone refusing to add to theirs-and made it common law to completely destroy any innocent US citizen that possesses any potential of threat to any interest in the most brutal ways- because it has to be organic -so he could stay ahead of ordinary organism with his meaningless victories but to the point where he started to collapse the human rights of an exponentially growing swath of society securing the statements I was being forced to make, so he simply set up an extraordinary organism and aligned every special interest, i mean national interest, along with the sorry as reputations of every compromised socially more right than wrong DOD Senator and profiteering POW dush bag uck, and accumulated as much risk along the plains of no reality and negative reality as possible while touching as much of society as possible setting up circular piano keys across as much of the social spectrum "ensuring", exclusively for his criminal defense, the new sets of circular piano keys secured the circular piano keys that secured every statement I was forced to make while being baked from the inside out.

    And for really no reason what so ever except giving my Supreme ruler the ability to stay ahead of ordinary organism so this stupid uck could hold the fort -going in reverse- on the simplest arguments known to man and keep same ordinary organism from acting on the truth -since it was his shameful and worthless as on the line this time -as he compacted and compromised the sorry as reputations of every Senator and media profiteering POW dush bag and aligned the most brutal war crimes and extrajudicial crimes known to man- using no cause pretexts from the bottom interlaced with DOD intent from the top – with their sorry as reputations and every special interest creating an alternate reality where these proud profiteering POW ucks would allow their own status to be leveraged to create as much risk as humanly possible along the plains of negative and no reality.

    All the while Supreme Ruler paralleled their sorry as contribution to my nation-by creating out of thin air the justification to not only keep the collapse of human rights across a larger swath of innocent US citizens going but actually accelerate it – while he used the increased risk injected into the plains of no reality and negative reality under no cause pretexts to actually reformat the Senate and my media trash multiple times so the DOD social model of calling him or defending him as not being weak could hold for my political trash and so my media trash would not immediately feel like used rubbers letting their proud lose of human rights as his personal mules -that gave pretext for the collapse of a democracy and way of life here at home-not be in vein.

    Until the collapse of a democracy and way of life – justified by compacting all of this exploding activity into this alternate reality and aligning it with as many sorry as reputations as possible- simply failed and fell back into reality and started to bubble up everywhere, so now-because of my political and media trash-every United States citizen -from across the entire social spectrum from far left to far right, and at every level of power from that untouched by his war time investigations that need to destroy anyone that has any potential of threat to any interest by touching them with all the pointless accumulation of our global pile of hit to originally stay ahead of ordinary organism and dangerous mic to those deepest in them standing up for their most basic rights-and the ten levels in between along this imaginary plain of absolute perversion- will pay the price for these sorry as pieces of political and media trash.

    Because everything pivots form the core and and not coming to terms with the damage they are causing this nation -by taking away what's most important for no reason under false pretext of making the lives of everyone not touched by these war time investigations on the surface a little more stable is one thing, because in reality the destruction of the core for absolutely no reason to become the cause and catalyst for a lower quality of life for everyone untouched by the madness within the core was predictable -step by step by step-with my pieces of political and media trash within the most shameful and cowardly and insecure and anxiety filled sulfur wreaking perversion on the face of the uckin Earth because we are all getting the show we deserve and it all pivots from the courage we show in the core and we have less than none...

    Net 30 HU cause I only scored high in making special ladies feel priceless and there are many smarter than me:)

    February 23, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Reply
    • Steve Jobs

      This is too long, no one will read it.

      February 23, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Reply
    • Jay

      The last phrase, where he admits that there are many smarter than he is, is the only thing a half-way intelligent person can agree with.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Reply
    • TiredOfPayn

      Is this an example of 'Stream of Consciousness' writing or just bad run-on sentences?

      February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
    • ComfortablyNumb

      Wall of Text. Did not read.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Reply
    • Rstlne

      I take it that English is your second (or third) language? I will stop to read a long post if it is well-written, but your sentences seem to run on into eternity. Could not get a clue what you were trying to say.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Reply
    • sashagirl123

      I cannot even read this. Short and sweet buddy!

      February 23, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Reply
    • EddieboyS

      Your meds are wearing off.

      February 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Reply
  58. Easy Rhino

    Is it the responsibility of the US tax-payer or job of the US federal government to help fund regime change in yet another ME/Central Asian country?

    February 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Reply
    • Steve Jobs

      apparently it is.

      February 23, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Reply
    • dhondi

      According to CNN yes, most Americans: No

      February 23, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Reply
  59. dhondi

    well, give ole hilldog a gun and have her go do some fightin'

    February 23, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Reply
  60. Davis

    Take this with a grain of salt. The war mongering left and right are, as usual, in leauge with the military-industrial complex and will pedal this propaganda to the world. They salivate for another fight.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Reply
    • Steve Jobs

      Were going into Syria next thrusday, Israel is attacking Iran two weeks after that. All the pieces of the puzzle are coming together.

      February 23, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Reply
  61. TiredOfPayn

    'Credible' still does not answer the question as to whether they will be friendly to the US or even if they support the same democratic principles that we do. It MAY represent the will of the Syrian people. I still don't see a reason for the US to get involved.

    February 23, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply

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