By Barbara Starr
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has come to the conclusion there is a growing likelihood Israel could attack Iran sometime this spring in an effort to destroy its suspected nuclear weapons program, according to a senior administration official.
The official declined to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the information.
Panetta's views were first reported by the Washington Post's David Ignatius, who wrote Panetta "believes there is strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June - before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Asked by reporters in Brussels, where Panetta is attending NATO meetings, the defense secretary refused to comment. But Panetta told reporters the U.S. has "indicated our concerns" to Israel, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department.
But the official also noted that Israel goes through cycles of making aggressive statements about its intentions toward Iran in an effort to pressure the United States and the West to take more action.
Iran's supreme leader issued a blunt warning Friday that war would be detrimental to the United States - and that Iran is ready to help anyone who confronts "cancerous" Israel.
"You see every now and then in this way they say that all options are on the table. That means even the option of war," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said during Friday prayers in Tehran. "This is how they make these threats against us.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned Thursday that Iran may be close to the point "which may render any physical strike as impractical," according to Reuters.
But just a few weeks ago, Barak suggested things were not as urgent, saying an Israeli decision on whether to strike Iran's nuclear program was "very far off."
A "confluence' of intelligence has led Panetta to this conclusion, the official told CNN, but declined to offer any specifics except noting that the United States conducts intelligence operations aimed at Israel as it does with many other allies.
The senior administration official also noted that there is a general understanding in the administration that Israel may have come to the firm conclusion Iran is developing a nuclear weapon. Just last week, the recently retired chief of Israeli military intelligence told CNN's David McKenzie that the "Iranians have already decided that they want nuclear weapons," he said. But he added they haven't decided fully to go through with creating the weapons.
The official U.S. assessment is that Iran has not yet made that decision, the source said.
At a Senate hearing on Tuesday, Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus, who said he has regular discussions with Israel's leadership and intelligence head, noted that "Israel does see this possibility as an existential threat to their country, and I think that it is very important to keep that perspective in mind."
At the same hearing, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper noted the United States works closely with the Israelis and said the notion that Israel could strike is "a very sensitive issue right now."
"This is an area that we are very, very concerned about," Clapper said.
Panetta's press secretary, George Little, declined to comment on the report. Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently said it would be premature for the United States to consider striking Iran.
Everyone is talking about war, but no one seems to be considering the consequences. The rest of the world for the most part, does not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. For some there is no question, they will act to stop Iranian ambitions. It is clear that Iran understands this, but what they don't understand is why they are safe from attack at present and how that can change.
A war with Iran is certain to be disruptive to the oil supply from the Gulf. If Iran is attacked, the sea-lanes will be shut down, which means no oil from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Quatar, Bahrain, and so on. This would be highly damaging to Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Europe. This is why there is no war now, the world understands there would be a high price to be paid to attack Iran.
On the other hand, countries like Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Egypt will not accept a nuclear Iran and will act if they are forced to. Iran isn't a real threat to attack any of these countries, but they now have the missiles and they could have the bomb. It is ironic that the thing they want the most is the only thing that will ensure their destruction. Israel will accept other consequences rather than accept Iran with the bomb, and this same calculation is going on in Europe and the US.
Yes, exactly how America and Israel attacked Iraq because it "had weapons of mass destruction and wanted to wipe Israel out".
How many weapons of mass destruction have they found?? Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons, but no other country can have them. America and Israel have "good and heroic nuclear weapons" LOL
That fear factor now American politicians and Israeli politicians have figured out get people to support wars.
Go back to Grad school.
Well said. However, I feel the need to interject in one particular area; your presumption that oil transportation would be hindred is correct, but I believe it would be extremely temporary. Firstly, no other nation bordering the gulf would join Iran in conflict with the USA. Rather to the contrary, and as you point out, it is to their great advantage that the straight of Hormuz remain open. For this reason, if for no other, bordering nations will support the cause of the USA. Iran will have no real allies that matter. Secondly, the USA has the most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world, bar none. Israel is not far beyond, thanks to its affiliation with the USA. There is no country in the middleeast that could wage a war with the USA, nor is there a conglomeration of middleeastern nations that could do so. If there were, Israel would already have been attacked. A war with the USA would leave the opponent devastated very, very quickly. It would be embarassingly one-sided, as the wars in Iraq were. Remember the image of Iraqi solders running through the desert in their underwear, begging to surrender to US tank crews? It would be very similar to that.
Fanatical Muslims can wage war against the USA only through things like strapping bombs to women and sending them into crowded marketplaces. The USA struggles against that kind of warfare precisely because it will not stoop to that level. Granted, there are always examples of troops behaving poorly and even committing crimes against the people, but those men do not represent the USA or its military as a whole.
This is relevant to your comment in that a war with Iran, at least insofar as it impacts oil passageways, will be a much more conventional fight. There will not be women in burkahs with hidden bombs strapped to them randomly rowing boats around the Persian Gulf. There will be fighter planes, bombers, cruise missiles, and navy vessels. In that fight, there is not a nation on earth that can withstand the full onslaught of a resolute US military. Iran will have no navy left, no ground installations, no bases, no silos, no tank yards or airstrips, no radar stations -NOTHING. We won't even have to get that close to accomplish that. Opening Hormuz will not require boots on the ground nor humvees in the streets, and so the fanatics will have no ability to use their suicide tactics. If the USA learns its lesson and focuses on disabling Iran rather than occupation, it will succeed very quickly and order will be restored to the world's oil markets very quickly.
Look below to see what the head of the Protestants had to say abou the god's chosen people:
MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet, page 43"But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them." l
Read below to see the humanity of the god's chosen people:
BBC NEWS, 27/12/2011
Rabbis Dov Lior and Yacob Yousef had endorsed a highly controversial book, the King's Torah – written by two lesser-known settler rabbis. It attempts to justify killing non-Jews, including those not involved in violence, under certain circumstances.
The fifth chapter, entitled "Murder of non-Jews in a time of war" has been widely quoted in the Israeli media. The summary states that "you can kill those who are not supporting or encouraging murder in order to save the lives of Jews".
At one point it suggests that babies can justifiably be killed if it is clear they will grow up to pose a threat.
When will you pay for the sins of your Crusader / Pogrom ancestors? What did your Lord say? Let he is without sin cast the first stone.
You are citing the most rabid opinion of a few Jewish extremists. These opinions are not policy in Israel, any more than should the similar kinds of irresponsible conspiracy making on the other side. Time for rational and intelligent thinking.
My Jewish friends. Some Christians will support you now but they are not going to do it when their Messiah arrives. Read below:
Many Christians talk about how Jesus Christ will bring peace to the world, once and for all. But they often neglect to mention how this world “peace” is obtained. It is only after slaughtering his opponents and subduing “the nations” (the entire world?) under the foot of the global Christian empire that the world will have “peace”. Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible explains:
There shall be no more war; horses and chariots shall be no more used in a hostile way; but there shall be perfect peace, all enemies being destroyed, which agrees with Micah 2:3 Zechariah 9:10.
I always pray to Jesus to protect me from his followers.
Thanks to the Israeli Mossad false flag operation on 9/11/2001, the U.S. is now fighting Muslims in 6 different countries. Soon to be 7.
Yep, and see how they are getting us ready? Iran is not plugged into the BIS, IMF, Fed Reserve, etc. Just like Syria and before them it was Libya and Iraq. Notice the pattern.
how did mossad recruit 19 saudi extremists? what a sly group of spies! you need a haircut beginning at the neck
I just watched another Islamic fundementalist propaganda vid where they lined up a bunch of Paki's and took turns shooting them one by one. When they were all dead, some bearded turbin headed guy waving around his AK rifle started blabbering some BS.
So, as I walk around the streets of my hometown, I try to recall if that happened here, in the US? No! We are a nation of laws and structure. As much as everyone bitches on how evil the US is, I am sure they would rather be here than in some god forsaken place like Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq or any other similar place.
You've installed dictators in our countries. You've stolen our natural resources and our wealth. You bombed our women and children. In 50 years time, our children will hunt you like the they hunts Nazis. You think 9/11 was bad? There's nothing you can do to win. Even after 11 years, our ragtag soldiers are p1$$1ing all over "great military" in Afghanistan. Your retreat from Iraq is proof of your failures. Hezbollah practically took a big $h`t on Israel's face in 2006, and what did Israel do? Drop phosphorus bombs on children. Your civilization built on mass media and corporate brainwashing by your financiers cannot and will not win against 1.5 billion Muslims who are not afraid of death like you are. You trashy cowards are instigators of violence and chaos. You are responsible, and your time will come shortly.
True believers. They are so cute. Ya gotta love em.
A couple of nukes in all your cities should quiet that foulish mouth of yours.
Jon, who has a couple of nukes for all our cities? What cities are you talking about?
I was in the military for 7 years. I must have missed the baby killing class. Well, I guess, you just justified the murdering of inocent civilians. If you didnt bring your children to battle and hide behind them and use the old trick of saying we kill children when they die after you put them in harms way we wouldnt get that reputation.
Trust me, you do more harm to yourselves with your honor killings, stonings, hangings, throat cutting...the list goes on and on...than anyone has ever done. Go watch this murdering videos, if you have the balls.
Who are the barbarians that strap bombs to their chest or to their cars and blow up innocent people in the market square? Who are the barbaric people who cut heads off people and post the videos online? Who are the disgusting monsters that can’t face our military head on so they instead hide behind their own people and use women as shields and blow people up with roadside bombs? Your people…. They are the cancer on this world. They target people in the market and we target training camps. We have uniforms that tell you who we are. You hide in a crowd of people to protect yourself.
Oh, I forgot. Hey Roy (Roy? Is it??), remember the video about the execution of 25 or so Iraqi police recruits? This happened a few years ago but you can till find the vid on the internet. If you recall, Shiite militants kidnapped about 25 police recruits, made them kneel shoulder to shoulder and one at a time this guy with a small calibre handgun went down the line shooting each in the head. I felt sorry for the guy on the end because if it were me I would be tossing cookies. You remember that one, Roy?
And Iran will strike back. yay. As George Carlin used to say. "Entertainment" Get some popcorn. Sit back and watch the show. Way bigger than the superbowl. Death and destruction. Can't wait. Don't disappointment. Let's go. "Bring it on" as Bush used to say.
Please, let them duke it out, and let us (US) stay completely out of it.
Mankind never changes just their choice of weapons and rhetoric change.
Please stop saying Jewish is a nationality, it is a religion. Also please stop calling them semites, they are not, cranial measurement studies conducted on 3000+ jews factually proved that they are neither from that region nor are they in any way semitic. Hebrews looked like Arabs, not blonde haired blue eyed Europeans.
Jewish is referring to race.
Yes, because the lost tribes of Israel from thousands of years ago are these red headed Europeans that are settling in Israel... riiiiight.
Mark Levy you are a piece of SH1T!!
Why do they dress a turkey before they eat it it does not matter they just do it.Ohh it is because we are thankful ...
I know native Iranians. They would be very happy if Iran was destroyed and rebuilt.
"Kill the Arabs". "Kill the Jews". "Kill the Muslims". I love this board. So many brave cowards with keyboards and comfortable chairs.
I mean reaaly do we all need super long beards and black hats in order to exist one nation under some sort of faith. Anti Socialism !
It's hard to be anything but wholeheartedly sick of this constant hate in the Mideast. Neither side is innocent here.
The threat to Israel – to its existence and to the ability of every citizen to go on breathing – is REAL.
I don't excuse Israel, however, when it does things that are inhumane or just flat wrong. But it is ludicrous to expect them to open their veins to Muslims – EVERY Muslim hates every Jew, and wants them all slaughtered. It's fed to them with mother's milk. Israel HAS helped people in Gaza and West Bank, but being Muslims, nothing is ever enough. Nor would any two-state solution ever satisfy the Muslims; only all Jews dead and the land of Israel totally in Muslim hands will do. Israelis know this, and we deny that reality.
When dealing with absolutism, there IS no such thing as compromise or mediation. Islam is as absolutist as they come.
Islam is NOT "just another religion." It is aside from – OTHER THAN – religion. The religious mummery is there only to promote the fanaticism that will make Muslim conquests successful. It gives the militant and political ideology the "stamp of divine approval." And it works.
I see no need for me to tolerate or respect a "religion" whose god tells its believers that I deserve to be slaughtered. Silly me. While I can respect and tolerate most religions, I don't need to buy into their mummery to do it. I don't like religion. But I do realize that religious liberties are vital to democracy itself. But separation of church and state is just as vital. As long as religions mind their manners, I don't quibble.
Israel, and Jews, aren't always the world's most admirable people. Their own faith is one which makes the odious claim that they are the "chosen people of God." It is a racist viewpoint, even though it isn't aimed at skin color. It is aimed at who your ancestors were, and whether they hail from their "original 12 tribes." It is not an inclusive faith but an exclusive one. But at least it doesn't indulge in loathsome proselytizing; there's at least THAT. Nor are they disposed toward honor-killings, stonings, lopping off body parts, beheading, brutalizing women, sodomizing babies, conquering the world, forcing their faith on others, among other little unlovely things. But Judaism is still a kind of "club" of the "sifted few," and it is no surprise that people hate them for that. Hate is stupid, of course, but this attribute definitely does not make Jewish people very lovable. I cannot accept any government whose policy is to genocide Israelis – or anyone else. I don't have to like the attitudes of Israelis to recognize their right to exist.
Islam, however, is far worse. It not only proselytizes, but forces conversions by the sword (and don't quote me the Quran that says "there shall be no compulsion in religion," because that text DIED the day Muhammad forced his own first conversion).
Many texts quoted to us by Muslims sound benign, but they neglect to tell us that they also went dead, just as the forced conversion text did. But we believe those texts are still binding on Muslims, when they haven't been for over 1400 years. Do you see why it is important to study Islam on your own? They can use their own holy texts to lie to us. Unless you know how the benign ones died. Any text that Muhammad later violated – died. He is "the perfect Muslim," so whatever he did was good. And he did some pretty loathsome things – nor need I remind you of his sexual inadequacies that have now drawn multitudes of men who share them. Islam is a magnet for such men.
Islam is about CONQUEST. I've studied it since 1994, and have the standing to say this. I know Islam better than many Muslims do. All that "peace and tolerance" stuff has come from Muslims – who lie.
Anyone who studies the Islamic core texts KNOWS that Muslims lie.
Lying to infidels is downright righteous in Islam. We always go to them, or their clerics and scholars, with our questions about Islam – which is the stupidest possible thing to do, because every last one of them will LIE to us.
I once went to Muslims for answers, too, but they felt contrived to me, so I went to the horse's mouth, to Islam ITSELF; its own holy core texts. After studying those, all my confusion went poof. And my hair stood on end.
Islam is worse than an obscenity, worse than an abomination – it has no value for human life whatsoever – not even the lives of its own believers matter. ALL that matters in Islam is to take over the entire globe, to conquer it and put every human under Sharia. And, BTW, there is only ONE form of Sharia, not the "extreme" versions we're told about on the news. Islam doesn't NEED extremism; it already IS that way.
But Muslims aren't the only liars. Our own governments and media lie to us, too – mostly the oil, of course, but often out of ignorance. They, too, consult Muslims, and get the lies, which they then pass on to us, adding to our total confusion. Studying their core texts, and totally ignoring Muslims as a source, removes all that confusion. It leaves you with the reality – and ONLY the reality – of Islam. Which is flatly terrifying and nauseatingly gross.
So while I dislike religious states – including Israel – as a matter of basic logic and principle, it is the Islamic ones which are the most deadly threat to the world. They can point out the flaws of Israel until they're blue, but it doesn't change the fact that THEY, the Muslims, are the ones who have the most odious of all possible agendas. They will stick at nothing to achieve global domination – nukes, genocides, slavery, atrocities, sadism – there ARE no rules.
We're busy talking about potential attacks on Iran, distracting us, while the world's Muslims are almost ready to conquer all of Europe – from both within and without. YOU figure it out – the mobilization is going on right in front of your eyes, so you ought not need me to point out the details for you. It is YOUR cute little habit of preferring ignorance and denial to reality that is ringing the death-knell on Europe. This is what makes the free world so vulnerable to what Muslims have in store for us all.
ONLY by educating ourselves about Islam can we remove this vulnerability. They're not quite ready to take over Europe, but if pushed, they probably could pull it off right now. So we don't exactly have the luxury of a whole lot of time to study Islam and learn about the reality of it.
Take NOBODY'S opinion as valid, not even mine. The best knowledge – the kind you can't "blow off" – is the kind you dig out for yourself. Does anyone else tell you not to take their view on this? I do it because it's the only way to rid you of your warm-fuzzy illusions. How can it be unfair to ask you to do a little homework?
LOOK at the population figures showing how many Muslims are already in-residence in the countries of Europe. LOOK at a map showing N. Africa and Europe, and guess what they might do once these new Islamic States have solidified and beefed up their military. Then figure out how they might decide to USE this. With tiny Europe almost surrounded, and thoroughly infiltrated. No amount of military might Europe has will avail them against the kind of attack Muslims have in mind.
The Prime Directive of Islam is total global CONQUEST.
Keep in mind, too, that Islam is the inside-out of democracy. The in-residence Muslims of the free world are NOT there because they "yearn" for rights and liberties. They're waiting. Those Glasgow doctors waited for decades before going Section 8 – or have you forgotten?
So you figure out what they will probably do. Keeping in mind, of course, that they don't CARE if multitudes of Muslims die in the effort. When they do launch their putsch, it'll put the lie about "peace and tolerance" to rest for good and all – but it'll be too late, won't it?
Europe has nukes. And ICBMs. What do you think the new Muslim overlords might do with them?
The one and ONLY thing that could threaten their plans is if the public of the free world casts off its denial, faces the reality and starts making plans to thwart them. Thwart. NOT make war. War plays into their hands – they LOVE IT. And hating is putrid. Thwarting MIGHT stop them, so keeping us off-balance is vital to their success. The element of our total surprise and shock is what will give them their victory.
I don't HATE Islam or Muslims.
But I do FEAR them. Why?
Because right now, it looks as though Islam will WIN.
Study Islam as though your life depended upon it. Because it DOES.
This is a whole lotta post to SKIP over.
Yeah, Fred, we read your post on 911. We know that learning and knowledge is not your long suit. Of all the folks that need to follow the advice of sss you and your type of people are the ones. Learn to read, learn to research, learn to comprehend.
Could please elaborate on that?
Shorten that rant or it won't be read. And one more thing. This isn't about religion. It's about America. and looking out for americans first and all others second. At this point, Our military should be controlling, securing and protecting our borders. NOT ISRAELS. Or anybody else's for that matter. Period. You can hate islam if you want. Not our problem. Our problem is america. We haven't solved our own problems yet. Once we are healthy again, perhaps we can get more involved. For now, the bank is closed.
To mcjny: you really need to read H.B.’s entire post before you make yourself look stupid. Oops too late.
OK. Thanks for that info. I'm going to my basement and no more TV, internet or sex but just studying Islam and those moooozlim that are coming to eat me alive. You da man.
Muslim here. I drink the blood of Jews for a living. WHATCHU GONNA DO?!!!
This is how a racist and a bigot looks like.
Kind of like saying Chrsitianity's goal is to make all priest pedophiles and making sure every child does not remain unmolested and that all Mormon's want to make every woman a sister wife.
You Studied Islam since 94 and yet all you say are LIES. Don't Claim to know Islam more than Muslims, because you obviously know too little. I bet your sources are Daniel Pipes and TV.
For your information, back when Jewish people were killed by the Europeans, Muslim countries were their safe haven including when your maniac HITLER(Who probably share your religion) was killing them.
If you have been studying Islam since 94, boy you have really wasted your life on false information.
I am sick of all people like you who either spread lies or who are brainwashed....
Okay, darlink. If I AM lying, it's because I accepted the Quran and Hadith as the core of Islam. So that means that Islam itself lied to me when I studied it.
I only accepted the things that Islam ITSELF says Islam IS. FYI, I began this study because I believed, all my life, that Islam was about peace and tolerance. As more and more Islamic terrorism occurred, I found myself with doubts. I wanted reassurance, so I asked Muslims, who gave me irrational answers, so I went to the source.
I did NOT find the reassurance I was seeking. Are you telling me that Islam's own scriptures were telling me lies? I'd find that hard to swallow.
MCJNY calls my post a rant? I'm a scholar of Islam. If you think this is only about America, you ignore the fact that no nation can get by isolating itself. And I think I mentioned that I do NOT hate Islam. I find it maximally revolting, but hate is not one of my attributes, except against only one thing: Cruelty. Hating people poisons the hater inside and reduces his ability to think well. War against Muslims is what they crave. Thwarting is what I think can work best. Haters never want to thwart; they want to kill.
We DO have to deal with our own problems, and certainly should not place them second, with defending Israel in first place. But we ARE capable of multi-tasking.
I suggest that people study Islam so they will know what WE are up against. But I knew nobody would. Intellectual laziness has never been more highly valued than it is by today's Americans. I am an American AND a liberal. If I followed political correctness, I would not talk about what I know of Islam.
Islam IS violent, and @YouARE the only Liar is just another Muslim, pushing ignorance on us. Will he tell us what a "dhimmi" is? Or admit Islam condones slavery? Or that "an infidel is worse than a murderer"?
If I was brainwashed, it was the Quran and Hadith that did it to me. Take it up with Muhammad, chum – by ouija board.
@ H.B. I am pushing ignorant? It is the other way aroud. You probably one of those missionaries that goes and tell Lies about Islam so you can convert people.
Booo-hoo-hoo........you've just made me shit in my pants.
You got to simplify things to understand them. All this talk about fanatics and what they believe is pure bleeding heart crap it has nothing to do with reality does it ?
And your point is?
The point is there is none it is all over dog eat dog.
if by reality you mean threats of wiping out another state and providing terrorists with weapons to kill americans, then who besides you has a bleeding heart? you like the fanatics?
You act surprised why do you think they gave us the second amendment. Ohh my brain hurts from thinking too much. You can dress them any way you like it still tastes like turkey.
Israel will strike and FLAME Iran's AZZZ within the next month!
Be careful this week-end. You could inflamate your azzz at the Barbie
Israel? She is trying to survive. This small thriving country amongst 22 Arab countries is amazing. The only anti-Semitic mind cannot accept that the Israel is simply a miracle. Unfortunately anti-Semitism cannot be cured. It only can be taken care of by lobotomy.
Without Jews there would be no Western civilization, no Christianity and no Islam, by the way. But anti-Semitic mind cannot comprehend it. How people with less than one tenth of one percent of the world population may be so powerful. And yes, they are. Their power is the power of their minds. They are the only people, who believe that they have destiny.
Take Jews out of history and the world, as we know it, disappears. Therefore, stop this anti-Semitic rhetoric and think, think for a change. It is painful, I suspect – to think. It is so easy to go with "Horrible Jews this", "Oily Jews that". "Save the world – kill the Jews". But even if you do not believe that Jews are chosen, just recollect what happened to all those who tried to exterminate this small group of people, those Jews. Those chosen Jews. God bless them.
I am far from being anti-semitic. But, explain this: If the Jews are the Chosen ones, how come they got the only country in the Middle East with no oil?
Bor. I have nothing against judaism. I actually don't care about religion as a whole. Our discussion is about the USA getting into military action over the actions of a foreign nation. It's not acceptable to the american people. We have been at war for 11 years in that region and have accomplished ZERO. Enough. I'm sorry friend but this is not about God. Its about humans who make war for profit, kill each other off and then say God says it ok...Well its NOT.
You are truly dumber than your name makes you appear. Yes, if Jews didn't exist we would all be living in caves and would not develop at all.
While it is "amazing" that Israel exists where it does, I think it is because Israel was a made up country after WW2 as part of the reward for the Allies. Ever since then Israel has been living off Western protection from an onslaught of Muslim retaliation for taking their land.
There was no reward. Even before WWII there was talk of Israel. Go back to the Balfour Declaration of WWI.
The land Israel sits on is not Muslim land, never was. It has belonged to the Jewish people for thousands of years.
confirmed data. The balfour declaration of 1917 was sent by the british to Baron Walter Rothschild. That letter confirmed support for the creation of a jewish homeland in palestine. It reads:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
Obviously that part about not prejudicing the civil and religious rights of existing non jewish communities got lost in the mail.
What really happened on 9/11/01? Israel knows.
Yup, Israel knew, and she tried to warn us,
but Bush ignored the warnings.
Of course, the Jews won’t attack Iran themselves, just like they didn’t attack Iraq themselves. They’ll get America (or, these days, NATO) to do the attacking. They’ll do the benefiting.
And just why would the Jews attack Iraq? Just because you are stupid, it doesn`t mean everyone is as well.
One big reason was because Saddam launched (nuclear-capable) Scud missiles at Israel in 1991. Crawl back in you hole.
If Israel does an unprovoked attack against IRAN it will be the beginning of the end.
With not thought as to how it impact any other county or nations except their own.
It will have major repercussions for the whole world.
Then get ready for the end by kissing your behind good bye...
So I guess you are ready to meet you maker.
The move to Israel and be on the front line so you wil be the 1st to go.
As you don't care about anyone else except for youself.
See ya. Let me help you pack.
Sadly, it seems as if it is a beginning that is long overdue. The hatred is so deep, can they ever become civilized again?
War Pigs, on wings! Insanity rules. The Mayan calendar makers may have been on to something.
The Mayans you are referring to were actually Ancient Aliens.
I don't get this. How did a bunch of white people end up right in the middle of a bunch of brown people?
The brown people keep blowing things up.
No. For generations we've supported corrupt regimes that rob and oppress their people because those regimes control the flow of OIL. Got it? All the violence is a consequence of that fact. Until we change direction (which seems highly unlikely) and stop supporting every rightwing nut in the queue, we will be at war.
There was a war, or weren't you paying attention in 8th grade history class?
folks what a mess this threat is causing. the mossad chief said in a statement that 200,000 missiles aimed at israel at any given time. this would require one to do the math and that this could not be confronted on a one to one bases but an overwhelming strike that would result in an after math.
Perhaps he was exaggerating just a tad?
The Jewish neo-cons Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith etc. were the architects of the war in Iraq. The US lost 4500 soliders, thousands of mental and physical injuries + hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed or maimed + billions of wasted dollars. How much did Israel contribute to the war in Iraq ZERO with no loss of Israeli lives and we call them allies. Now Israel wants the US to do the same to Iran, let Israel fight their own wars. Israel has the most powerful military in all the Middle East and the only country there with nuclear weapons. They are so powerful but are always crying and looking for handouts, just look at the map of Israel in 1947 and compare it to today and you will see how much more they have occupied as Norman Finkelstein a Jewish writer said: “The Zionists indeed learnt well from the Nazis. So well that it seems that their morally repugnant treatment of the Palestinians, and their attempts to destroy Palestinian society within Israel and the occupied territories, reveals them as basically Nazis with beards and black hats.”
If you were Irish, your moniker would be Lepracohen. Since you are not, I assume you are a self hating Jew.
Since when does standing up for an oppressed people make you self-hating against your oppressing culture?
Well said. People don't learn from trespasses against them.
After aligning themselves with the Nazis, after stealing most of the world's oil properties, after creating a region of police states and religious malcontents, leave it to the Jihadis and Muslim supremacists to play the victims. That's exactly what psychopaths would do.
Get a clue you freak
It is a NEOCON war, not a Jewish war.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, not Jewish.
You only got half right.
Israel had nothing to do with Iraq.
The US is like a "Big Brother" to Israel, but they don't always listen to our advice. History has shown that they have a tendency to go ahead and attack countries in that region without a publicly stated blessing from the US.
They shouldn't need our blessing to do anything. Just like Iran shouldn't need a blessing to have any weapons it wants. Let every country in the region get a nuclear bomb, then nobody will attack anybody. And don't give me that Hezbollah crap, terrorist groups are affiliated with governments and are not borderless.
You just contradicted yourself.
The US needs to be very clear that Israel can do what they want, but don't come crying to Obama when you have a full scale war on our hands. We have had enough lives and money wasted in the Middle East. Get out for good !
Why not send the Iranians a couple of truckloads of soccer balls and let them take care of themselves.
Because the soccer balls are manufactured in China! About the only thing we can send is a tomahawk missile.
I see you belong with the rest of the idiotic lot.
Good one Mate. Cost? a few coins. Absolutely great.
And wasn't giving them a drone enough? 🙂
The whole argument against Iran having nuclear weapons or power is ridiculous! We should be doing exactly what they are doing – we should be investing trillions (like the Chinese and India,) in fast reactor technology, renewables, and exporting that technology all over the world. Hell, we should even build and give both Iran and Israel a fast breeder nuclear reactor, for goodwills sake, since those reactors really are only good for making dirty bombs. This whole things is less about nuclear than about weakening Iran economically so they can't persuade other countries to dump the US petro dollar anyway.
Zionism is just conservatives without boundries locking the world out as they spread thus called cancerous by Iran.
If I were Isreal there Nuclear ambitions would already be wiped out Remember Isreal is not perfect but they elect their government
Just because Israel elected their leader doesn't mean they should be our friends or main interest in the region. Hitler was also elected so your argument is invalid.
I would hate to have you for a friend.
Israel is our friend, we DONT turn our backs on our friends.
Time for an interesting conspiracy theory. I believe that all of this saber rattling by israel is about getting an israel super supporter republican into the white house. I guarantee that this bit of theatre will reach a fever pitch right about oct. The christian right are the biggest support for the republican party among the former middle class. Interestingly enough, guess who gave gingrinch the money to continue his campaign after Iowa, Sheldon Adelson. A billionaire from israel. My fellow americans, I submit that will not and should not create our polices based on the well being of any nation beyond AMERICA. We are responsible for our country. Our president should be concerned about US first, given our current financial health, not any other nation. I think we are being had again. I want to be the first to send the message loud and clear. We are not fighting anyone else battles and we will not support a president who wants to. Any thoughts?
I think you are due for a long vacation in a dark basement
We are not buying dude. We are not supporting israel in this insanity. Nor will we support a president who drags us into another war. The answer is NO. Tell your handlers that the american people are saying NO. You're on your own guys. Make smart decisions.
Yes, lets put him in the basement for understand what is going on and speaking the truth.
I agree. I am a Christian voting for Ron Paul just for this reason. We cannot be a policeman for the rest of the world. Israel has a very, very big and strong army. Let them fight if they want to. We have enought problems of our own.
Meant to spell ENOUGH. Sorry for this.
You need to get out of the basement, NOW !
America is as dependent on Israel as Israel is to America. They are their closest ally in the middle east, and they are constantly supplying America with intelligence and technology which they rely on to keep their national security. So you cant just say they should stop being involved with Israel and their wars.
Americans: Ever wonder why Israel isn't worried about how war will affect their oil supply?? Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) the USA guaranteed all Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This Memorandum of Understanding is quietly renewed every five years. It commits U.S. taxpayers to maintain a strategic U.S. reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002 dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from restrictions on oil exports from the USA. Moreover, the U.S. government agreed to divert oil from the USA, even if this causes domestic shortages. The U.S. government also guaranteed delivery of oil in U.S. tankers if commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the USA to Israel.
WOW..that's mind blowing. What about america's oil needs in crisis?
No worries. Just dig sideways and get all the Mexican and Canadian oil
In case you hadnt noticed, it has been on the news,
America has so much oil, we are now "exporting" it.
Good post. This is not a widely discussed issue. I Vonder VHY not?
I get the drift between Israel and Iran and it is an age old problem of your crap stinks more than mine does. The fact is there is not enough room for everyone on this planet and you better get use to it.You have the Israelites building more settlements and then you have the hut builders and the super rich and no in betweens.Extreme liberalism and conservatism is what it is. thus we have a two party system here in america and we still hate eachother it will never end.
To the largely racist hardline pro-Zionist US establishment in Washington DC, the Muslim faith is an unacceptable religion, and Arabs/Persians and other ethno-types who follow this faith are by extension "unacceptable people". This is the same, poisonous, Hitlerian-type propaganda (Eugenics) that the US population as a whole has been bombarded with, from the corporate media, Hollywood and government agencies, since the establishment of Israel in 1948.
It's no wonder that 9/11, the wars against the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan (and shortly to be Iran) have been such an easy sell, for the neoconservative (US-Israeli) designers of this agenda.
Striking the civilian infrastructure of a nation, for example nuclear power research establishments, is an act of international terrorism. Israel would be guilty of such, and Panetta equally so, by supporting the Israeli thugs and its criminal Likud cartel. Iran would be fully within its rights to strike back in self defense, or even before, by employing the Bush and Obama Administrations' (US) doctrine of preemptive military action, against Israel. For agents of Israel to do this would be THE EQUIVALENT of al Qaeda striking civilian targets in New York and Washington DC.
Wow! An articulate Idiot!
And you are just a blabbering FOOL with no common sense.
No, it's you, actually, who is the idiot. Obviously, articulation frightens you.
Relax NIK. Obama isn't leading us in that direction. And if his replacement tries to, I guarantee an open revolt. The very idea of my country getting into another frakking war for proft makes my head hurt. No way.
*** Iran would be fully within its rights to strike back in self defense, or even before......
Or even before ?
You just said Israel bad for attacking,
but its ok for Iran to do it ?
You just blew my mind.
In America, Jewish power prevents a sane foreign policy.
No, it's money that prevents sane foreign policy. Money from lobbyists and corporations.
AIPAC is a lobbying group.
I thought it prevented you from being intelligent
In America, Jewish power prevents a sane foreign policy.
The people behind the military industrial complex.......NEOCONS.
Israel used to own all the land in the region, I say they just take it back the way it was taken from them. and if Iran really wants a war they will get one just as Japan, Germany, England (way back) and the rest did. War is not the answer as some might say. But ask and ye shall recieve.
Blayd are you living in an imaginary world. It's obvious your Israeli or some crap. You think Israels military is match to the US military? Israel is not taking over anything. The US has been at war for the last 10 years we are ready to kill some more unexperienced Isreali military. We will destroy them it's not even funny. Their nose might get in the way of the sight scope haha
You have America going to war with Israel ?
Thats freaking funny !
Really they did ?
When was that?
Nothing in the Bible about that. It always refers to Palestine.
And some thing to about the Jews roaming the desert looking for a place to live.
Look like they never found it. It had to be given to the them.
Jealousy and envy ! Greed ! The haves and the have nots and the establishment and their rules. It is almost like a paid for TV show or am I still dreaming ?.
If they start it they need to be ready to finish it on their own.
Then we must ask the question " WHY ". Why do liberals hate conservatives so much ?
Then we must ask the question " WHY ". Why do liberals hate conservatives so much ?
We dont hate them, we just want them dead.
And that weapons program... still not proven to exist in the first place.
With strange lights flying around in the sky , the world going broke and 57 states and Russia now close enough to be seen at our door step, religous wars going on, everything at the same time it is no wonder we all hate eachother.
There has and never any good come out of war. It is always misery. But there is one good that will come out of this.
Another CALL OF DUTY with real battle episodes and awesome graphics. I'd call this game OIL & NUKES.
Guys who care abt call of duty reply with some interesting titles.
Israel will strike soon, not because of the Nuclear issue though. The new GPS guided long range missiles the Iranians have developed is the real problem. Iran can now accurately rain down missles on Israel's own nuclear facilities. When this strike happens those will be the real targets
For anyone to think that a war with Iran will be similar to the Gulf Wars, the Afghan conflict, or even the NATO strikes on Serbia, think again. A war with Iran would probably end up being a total annihilation of that country with US Nukes.
We will all shed our blood for Ayatollah Khomeini. We love Iran. We love Ajad. America must pay Iran $250 Billion for all the trouble they have given this great country. I want all American taxpayers to pay for Iran. Iran should have nuclear weapons and should have the right to use them on whoever they want to.
You and Doug should get together. You are both as stupid as my pet Emu. What dropkicks!
Typical Jew trickery... Ali Baba, code name Sholomo GoldSilverFeldPoopWitz.
Now I get it. You are Jewish! Wow!
Hey Ali, you are a bloody Yank passing for Ali just to have fun, hey?
If you are so pro Israel.
Then go ahead and move there..
We will all help you pack.
And the US has the right to user their nukes on whomever they want!!
There you are.
Sorry guys, my troll keeps getting out of his cage.
The Jews want America to attack Iran, for Israel’s benefit. But that hasn’t happened yet, so the next best thing for the Jews to do is to make sure that the “White democracies” isolate Iran from the rest of the world, hurting it economically and politically. (By the way, that’s how World War II started. Back then, the victims of the Jews and the “White democracies” were Japan and Germany.)
And you probably beleive that Jews control the world money supply. What a maroon!
I think you are the moron. You cannot spell.
Apparently you have not read “Trading with the Enemy” about WWII.
With declassified documents as to who really controlled the worlds money.
George Saros a Jew that nearly broke the Bank of England, has been banned from trading there.
As well as found guilty in France for legal trading in the millions. And banned there as well.
He and His Jewish parents Collaborated with the Nazis
George Saros also has funded Obama’s campaign
So the Jews are at fault for WW II?
Of course the Jews were at fault! If it wasn't so easy for hilter and crew to kill millions they never would have started. Doug you are a mo ron and since when were the vast majority of germans then and now not white? Time to pull your head out of your bottom end, read some real history and get your life together.
To KMW: you should change your moniker to ATR. Automatic Tampax Remover
Andre, sos un idiota, carajo. Cuand Dios repartio la inteligencia, estabas comprando un I phone.
The Americans, Brittish and dutch put an oil emargo on Japan to stop
its war machine, Japan attacks Pearl Harbor,
and you blame the Jews ?
See those guys behind you ?
The ones in the white coats ?
They just want to talk with you.
Every morning I wake up thankful we have a first and second to fight back with if we need to. Amen to that brother man.
If this happens, the Obama admin will either say it's Bush's fault, or it's because Israeli's are racists.
That`s OK. You are stupid and no one cares.
You are a very crude and you must be Jewish.
What he SHOULD say is that it's the tea party's fault..........following your logic.
or he can put the report in a file and get back to working for the ameican people. Note to all: Israel is a foreign country. Nothing more. We are not beholden to them for anything. This is their problem and I suggest they fix it before the UN fixes it for them. but it won't be america. The american people are sick of wars for profit, wars for WMDs/threats that don't really exist and to top it off, gas prices are higher than ever. It's lose lose for US.
It is really too bad that Israel and Iran hate each other so much. In fact we have alot of hate going on all over the place. Sort of like a hate fest .
Welcome to Earth
You are right. Unfortunately no one will assist an invite to get together and sing kumbaya
Do you honestly think Iran would blow up Israel? Iran, would put the final nail in the coffin for the entire middle east if they did. If Israel even see's the bomb coming their way, they would unleash ALL their nuclear bombs on every single country in the middle east, they would destroy it completely. Which would stop most of our oil. No way would the world let this happen. U.S., Europe and other countries don't care about the middle east people, just don't stop that the flow of oil please.
you are right to some extent. What you really meant was that Isreal wouldnt let that missile out of Iranian airspace. It would be shot down before it is even a threat.
Israel is not stupid. Iranians are predominantly persians shites unlike mostly arabic sunnis. Those 2 sects probably deep down hate each other even more than they hate the jews!
Trust me when I saw a lot of Arab countries are probably secretly wanting Israel to strike Iran as well although they may put up some mock protest publicly. I can almost guarantee you that Israel will get blessings from most Arab countries behind the scenes before they attempt a strike on Iran. To reach Iran their warplanes or cruise missles will also need overflight access through the airspace of Jordan, Saudi and perhaps Iraq as well.
To the layman it's just a strike but in reality the politics of this is deep and complicated with a lor of backdoor dealings and enemies sleeping together as well.
The Saudis don't like the Ayatollahs, and vice versa. If Iran had nuclear capabilities, so would the Saudis, and it gets even crazier from then on. No doubt the Saudis would appreciate Israel taking care of the problem.
Saudi's have given access to Israel for air bases.
Americans also have air basses in Azjebijan (SP).
Just consider the potential timing of Israeli onslaught, the year of United States Presidential Election :).
Perfect. Give those (mostly) corrupt scumbags running for President a chance to show how they have been bought by lobbyists (including pro-Israel groups) and will just lead us to another war. Americans are truly the dumbest people if they knowingly elect another war hawk. Ron Paul is the only answer.
Totally agree with you. I am definitely voting for Ron Paul and plan to volunteer in his office.
Conspiracies. Conspiracies. Conspiracies.
Somewhere in Iran, people are saying... "Silly Jews don't realize that we already have multiple nuclear weapons and will use them in SELF DEFENSE when we are attacked." The world will understand.
WOW!!! You really need to get a clue and life.
By blowing themselves up.
I don't know about their government but iranians are really nice people and sure they are among the most educated immigrants in US.
You always have to separate the people from their rulers. Hey, look at the USA!
Let Israel figure out its own problems instead of trying to weasel the US into doing its dirty work. We have a budget to balance and have been at war for FAR too long. If US keeps at this pace (with war and financial policies) there won't be a US by the end of the century.
Israel has great military resources. Let them handle it. Iranian nuclear weapons can't reach the USA.
I wonder if Gaylad Shashit will be on the front lines with his bonyAss? Nahhhhhh.
WOW!!! You are pathetic
I would love to put your boneyass there.
Have you seen the way Jews treat their woman? Any man who disrespects a woman in such a way is promised to be miserable. Jews will fall.
You spelled Muslim wrong.
Let me get this straight!!!! A few Jewish men in Brooklyn (Brooklyn for god sakes) in indicative of how all jewish men treat the women in their lives... What a stupid ignorant statement that is. Get a clue and life you idiot!!!!
You must have had a sad childhood to come up with that crap.
Jon Jon so much hatred in you lil fella, actually is called growing up in Brooklyn, NY and seeing first handed how Jew men mistreat their woman.
This blog will certainly register 2,000-posts prior I finish my dinner.
Now where is “mamoud the entertainer”, Oh yes!! Perhaps he lost his cool to get censored.
unfortunately, this ship has probably sailed – they are very close or have one already. Thank you A.Q. Khan & Pakistan (again) for being spreading the terrorist cancer on the world. What the world SHOULD have done is prevented Pakistan from getting The Bomb – that will come back to haunt us, sooner or later. Love it or hate it, at least Iran is a functioning country with layers of military control – in Pakistan it's anyone's guess where the bombs are and who's watching them.
If Israel wants to start World War Three and the industrialized world decides to bomb us off the face the planet, God bless em' and good riddance to us all. I just wish I could have been born fifty years earlier. I would have enjoyed the chance to raise a family and live a full life but to hell with it, right? God bless the wisdom of our visionary leaders! They can burn their oil and their money in a bunker at the end of the world.
god bless you johnny for having a free mind and soul
If you believe all that garbage,
i am glad you wont be around to reproduce.
Time to clean up the gene pool.
Get ready America!! Panetta just let us know that the Israelis have the green light to attack the Iranian nuclear facilities. Israel cannot do anything that they are currently doing without our aid either financially or militarily. It is time we make the Israelis conform with all the UN sanctions against them. This is ridiculous that we support Israel and turn our back on dozens of Arab countries and the Palestinians. American foreign policy is the worst. Ask the 5000 families that lost loved ones in our latest war.
Your facts are distorted my friend. The only country keeping that area somewhat under control is Isreal and the almighty impressive Benjamin Netanyahu. Let me tell you something just as Isreal needs us, The U.S.A. needs Isreal; dont be so naive. Stop siding with the enemy and join the winning team for once in your life.
And it was the "worst foreign policy" I suppose that has gotten America to the lone super power status?
based on what because you say so? Tell me how many countries truly support the good ole USA and truly support us. England only supports us because they alone cant handle themselves. France hates the living crap out of us. Germany is in the middle. Poland they are clueless. the entire Europe are in other words fickle to the U.S. Isreal is about the only true backer of U.S.A. They know without us and them there is no survival. So, you sit there in your little space and type whatever, because this country allows you to make a complete fool of yourself with no true factual statement.
You've got to get out of your basement more often. Have you heard of a little country called China? If they were to come to collect all the money they lent our US government we'll be done. Most of our war spending and goverment speding in general is financed by goverment bonds, most of which is in the hands of the Chinese. We're becoming more of a paper tiger than a super power.
If china pulls out their money in bonds and tries to topple us they will come right along with us.. our economies are so intertwined China know that would not be a good idea
You've got to get out of your basement more often. Have you heard of a little country called China? If they were to come to collect all the money they lent our US government we'll be done.
So we dont pay them, what they gonna do ?
Start a war ?
If we stopped trade with China right now thier economy would collapse,
They know it, and we know it.
Counterpoint to your contention that we support Israel, when we buy Mideast oil aren't we also supporting just about every repressive regime in the region?
No becuase Isreal is independent with their own oil they dont import foreign oil..
Israel imports oil
When the Jews got their own country in 1948, they may have hoped that that would legitimize them somehow, that they would no longer be a wandering tribe of swindlers and liars. In other words, having an official state would somehow make them “normal.” But of course the Jews are the same oily people that they were before they got Israel, only now they have nuclear weapons and the protection of America...
So here we go with the 1930's Nazi rhetoric. Right its those damn Jews again right? Let me guess if they were lined up in the middle of D.C. in front of our wonderful suitless and skirtless leaders and they said rid them all you would say Zieg Hiel right?
Somehow you forgot to legitimize your lack of morality.
@ the reponses i am only commenting on the lack of intelligence displayed in the comments. i am Jewish and by no means against myself let alone an entire people.
WOW!!! You are one sick sad person to just lump an entire group of people together like that. So, if all Jews are like that, than all people in this world are true to the sad stereotypes that freaks like you come up with... Douch
Are you talking about the same oily people that have built the only thriving, modern nation in a region crap?
Let the Israelis and Jewish people go to war. It is about time they fought and not my Christian brothers and sisters.
@KMW – Amen!
FYI......That was their land even before Mahmod was born!!
A strike on Iranian nuclear facilities will not result in prolonged conflict (forget World War III).
A lot of Middle East nations will welcome such a move and believe me, the list is long cutting religious and sectarian lines.
If the Iranian leadership is sane enough they should head for the negotiating table to secure a respectable bargain.
The Jewish Lobby is very powerful in USA and the politicians are scared to death to say anything against Israel except for Ron Paul. I am voting for Ron Paul. Go Ron Paul 2012.
How many American lives will be lost with this Jew idea? How much do you think this war will cost YOU (U.S. tax payer) on average?
Yeah!! If we had Mitt Romney for President he would be like Bush. And find a way to make Peace like he did with Iraq. You liberals forget we almost went to war against Iraq because Bill Clinton lied about WMD. And it took Bush to save us from a phony war. Also it took Bush to find and Kill OBL. We really need Reagan he knew how to deal with Iran.
Being drug free could make life a lot easier.
yeah i wonder when will the drugs ever be free. last time i check the price are soaring high 😀
I hope that was sarcasm. If not, you are seriously deluded and need a reality check.
What a crock!
Clinton sent missils after bin Laden that missed because someone in the Paki "intel" ratted out...and Clinton didn't lie about WMD. You have your presidents mixed up. That was Bush and Cheney which got us into this downhill slide on every front to begin with !
I hope you are being sarcastic.....
your sick you call iraq peace? i bet you never been to war
Why do so many people in the United States glorify military might and ability to destoy nations and kill?
Why don't you respect other nation's right to self determination?
Why not conquer the world through the power of love?
Provide medicines,medical equipment, doctors nurses, surgeons, teachers, builders, engineers, scientists etc to those in need?
Your will find that it is cheaper, make you more popular, and will not lead unnecessary deaths.
This is how our species operates... mixed with a little politics to make things more complicated.
Are you seriously blaming the war in Iraq on Bill Clinton??? Did you say Bush went in and made PEACE??
Who are you and what rock have you been living under?
Bush and Cheney made up WMDs in Iraq, look up who Valerie Plame is.
Firstly Terrance you are a babbling low class non educated idiot who should be euthanized before you go out and commit hate crimes. To say without Israel there would be world peace has got to be one of the most ignorant statements I've heard in my 39 years. You must live somewhere in the swamp...
I agree with Terry
to US Jew: Iam a Jew and I also believe that Israel is creating tensions in the ME. It is stubborn with the Palestinians. Also the Russell International Tribunal based in South Africa made this official last November: Israel=APARTHEID.
Israel needs to change its mentality and stop wanting everything for itself. It first needs to give back the stolen land to the Palestinians:the WHOLE world agrees with that.
Mark, Jew for Peace
Terrance is indeed a bigot and a fool. That said, if Israel and Iran start throwing bombs at each other, I see no reason for the U.S. to get involved. except maybe as a peacemaking mediator. I see no reason for American lives to be at risk for this conflict. Of course, there is that matter of the Mid East oil supply being affected, which may change our attitude.
The only people I see who would benefit from this kind of war would be the phony Christians who long for an End Of The World scenario, who see themselves going to heaven while those they judge to be sinners would be left behind to suffer.
They are the only ones causing any real problems.
Calm down, my dears. You should know by now that what is good for Israel, is good for America (the reverse is not true). So shut your mouths and prepare your checkbooks (or should I say credit cards) to foo the bill.
Don't buy in to the NWO Israeli Zionism crap. They wish those big nose white arabs are not running caca.
Andy you need not post anymore please
First, Israel built nuclear weapons also without the international consensus, did any nation attack them for that?
Second, Iran may have the bomb already so maybe could be some surprise there, maybe they will send back some nuclear weapons, it's risky, they are playing with fire. Third, we can't fight other countries war, I really don't care less about the Israelis and the Iranians, I am an AMERICAN so they both can go to hell and the world will be a better place for sure!
Yea but the Jews own us due to a thieving swindling culture exemplified by the likes of Jews like Bernie Madoff and "Fast One" Fastow. Too many to list completely.
I agree. They should all go to jail; but of course, they won't. They have too much power.
nice words but don't think our crap don't stink either we have more than enough we need to be held accountable for
Well said, Amy! I'm 100% with you on that!
Isreal has not vowed to wipe anyone off the map, like Iran has
couldn't have said it better myself Amy.However we already did fight Israels war for them in Iraq people who think we went there for oil are way off. It was a proxy war for them.
Completely agree. Any country that owns nuclear bombs but tries to prevent other countries from obtaining them are hypocrites, including us. Can't have it both ways because "they" are evil and 'we" are good. Evil and Good are defined from your perspective.
Israel makes me sick thinking they can complain about a country developing a bomb, but will not even admit or allow inspectors to see if they have any when they clearly do. Can't get anymore hypocritical than that.
Where is Ron Paul when we need him? I am voting for Ron Paul. Let the Jews and their ilk fight their own wars.
I truly don't have a problem with Iran having nukes as long as they follow UN policies. We are the only country to ever use a nuclear weapon and we used it on civilian targets at least the Japanese attacked military targets.
Use your History correctly:
1. We bomb both Nagasaki and Hiroshima to help end the War and avoid greater causality’s, as both target contain a large civilian and military population. 2 The Japanese Destroyed entire Chinese city’s (The rape of Nanking) for the sheer pleasure of watching hapless humans die. So please the NEXT time you post …..Post correctly and stop trying to mis-leading….
So because they did it, that justifies our bombing innocent civilians? That sounds like a childish school yard defense. "But Mommy, they did it, too!" Time to grow up,friend.
When the Jews got their own country in 1948, they may have hoped that that would legitimize them somehow, that they would no longer be a wandering tribe of swindlers and liars. In other words, having an official state would somehow make them “normal.” But of course the Jews are the same oily people that they were before they got Israel, only now they have nuclear weapons and the protection of America:
Doomb Azzz statement of the day. I suggest you LEARN history before making stupid comments. Look up Unit 731 and get back to me. The Japanese murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions simply for their pleasure and experiments. They like the Nazi's viewed EVERYONE as (sub-human) and beneath them.
Unfortunately many people have no memory, or more realistically, any idea, of how brutal war truly can be. In todays age of politcal correctness, there is no defining the enemy or a true outcome of a confrontation. I can trace this back to Vietnam when the focus was shifted to the politicians "survival" at home, instead of the troops survival overseas. The history of war is full of astonishing brutal, definitive, and genocidal events. But, it was more effective. There wasn't nation rebuilding, there was enslavement. There was scorched earth fit for nothing. There was mass genocide. All the arm-chair, anti-war preachers need to realize that the US is fighting losing wars because we are trying to talk people to death instead of truly trying to change a region. War sucks, it should be the last card, but it should be played to its fullest, otherwise, it's ineffectual. Do you really think that the middle east would have our interests in mind if the situation was reveresed? Do you think Germany and Japan would have treated us the same as we did to them after WW2 had they won?
You have no clue about history. When the U.S. used the bombs, they had no clue what they really had on there hands. FYI... Bombing those cities, saved over 1 million American lives that would have died invading Japan. They started that war by bombing us first. They got what they deserved because they did not surrender when they had the chance.
The Japanese sent bombs over the pacific on air balloons. It only ended up killing 1 person in Oregon, but they were sending bombs over to our country which would kill indiscriminately. Don't believe they had no intent on killing more civilians if they could.
Read "Unbroken" by Laura Hillenbrand , and you'll re-think how the Japanese acted during WWII. Not saying the US is completely innocent, but we certainly didn't do the atrocities they did to our POWs.
I still want to believe if there was an attack they would wait after the elections. But then again Israel could just be playing tough guy because they know the US is on its side. But if there is a war that starts it will be real bad. And I know the president of Iran has made many trips to Venezuela. Who knows what they and the russians have there now. So if we jump to war we could see attacks in the country make 9/11 seem real small. These sanctions on Iran only makes the situation worse.
You could be right with as many as 20 million illegals any one of them could be a sleeper. I have been thinking this for years. We have been attacked before and to not know who is coming into our country is a huge problem. Who is to say someone couldn't cross the southern border with a dirty bomb and leave on street corner in Phoenix. Then again if we had any B@lls we would just state that any action on our soil will be met with the feircest response and show some nice Thermo Neuclear explosions. After all we spend way more on defense then the next 20 countries. So we just need the Pres to get on TV and say it to the world.
I hope, that USA will not support them and I hope that no one will not prevent to Iran's response
Lot of “hate statements” inbound the forum (and hence getting blocked) ;).
War with Iran could very well start the final conflagration. China and especially Russia will not stand for a preemptive attack on Iran.
Your correct, actually I believe in 2001 Iran and Russia signed somekind of pack. And those 2 countries could just waiting for one false move then they jump in. My bet Mitt Romney would be more like Bush and attack. But eitherway if Israel attacks anyway the middleeast could be on fire they are already on that tipping point to major war as it is.
At the same time not a single Asian nation will welcome another nuclear weapons power.
Already India, China, Russia, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea resides too close for comfort and has complicated the security matrix in the region.
We shall take out Iranian nuclear facilities – end of story. The USA & EU sanctions will do nothing to deter Iran. When US former President Bush declared war on Iraq, he picked on the wrong nation. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with your 9/11/01, but rather al Qaeda did. Now, you have Iran attempting to build a nuclear weapon and testing long-range missiles that can reach the USA. Put a nuclear warhead on one of these long-range missiles and yes, armageddon will be knocking at your back door. The point is, economic sanctions do nothing. If we do not stop Iran in it's tracks, they will make your Vietnam, Iraq & Afghanistan wars look like a day at the park. Israeli Defense Forces will pound Iran and we will pound Iran hard.
It was Israel that organized 9/11 to garner support against Muslim countries. Two words. LAVON AFFAIR.
Paranoid schizophrenia. Second opinion? You're ugly, too.
Pelko – you should know about ugly
Tin foil, lots of it....and hurrry !
You do realize that we have nuclear weapons capable of reaching other nations to and all nations reserve the right to protect themselves. You do realize that Iran my see it the same way what give the US the right to say who has nuclear weapons and who doesn't.
@Standoffdistance, you do realize Iran is a terrorist sponsoring Islamic nation, correct? You do realize they support groups like Hamas, Hesbollah, Islamic Jihad, correct? Are you in support of such terrorist org.'s? If so, I believe they are looking for new recruits.
You do realize that Pakistan is the number 1 terror nation and we give them Billions every year? The problem is we tip toe around all of these people. War is not nation building if you go to war you go to win, not play nice. You have to be able to set aside your compassion and bomb them into the stone age an leave them to fix their own. Going into Irag destabilized this region. Saddam kept the rest in check and removing him made Iran the predominant power in the region behind Isreal. WAY TO GO GWB!!! LONG LIVE THE KING
@Haifa – you can go and fight your own war for Israel, a.k.a. the peace loving nation. Just leave the US out of it!
you are officially an idiot, conratz....i don't think you understand that Iran hates the US just as bad as Israel (hence the terror plot they just busted in NYC+DC). If Ahmadinijacket had you in front of him and he had the chance to kill you, he would regardless of religion, race, color, ect. So yeah buddy Iran is your problem. 7 day war remember that? Israel does not need help to fight their battles.....
to Haifa: you stupid moron, the IDF could not even win against Hezbollah...!! tehre is a huge porpaganda against Iran and its so called nuclear program...remember Irak and its WMD?? DEJA VU!! we have absolutely NO PROOFS that Iran is building a nuclear weapon!
Mark, Jew for Peace
IDF was beating the crap out of Hezzbolah, Lebanon
went pleading to the UN for a cease fire.
Israel agreed, and Hezzbolah declared victory.
They wont try that again, Israel is ready.
I really hope Israel is just trollin' because this would lead to the end of the world.
They really don't care – that should be obvious by now
Leon Panetta’s statement is indeed a green signal for Israel to take “pro active” measures besides weighing international mood/response prior the eventuality.
The only thing that will keep the U.S. and Israel from being wiped off the face of the Earth will be God himself. Our blind faith in our leaders will get us all killed!
You're an idiot
you're an ass pirate!! hahahaha!!!!!!
When you shake your head, do you hear rattling noises ?
Get ready for $10 a gallon gas this summer. Better start stocking up on this cheap $3.50 a gallon gas now.
Kikes are at it again. Here goes WWIII. Hopefully they will get wiped out this time so the world can be in peace finally.
So you must be a terrorist supporter.
I thought I made it clear that I do NOT support Israel.
Terrance really ought to be vivisected. There could be a special UN session to observe.
so Terrance, must be a black name.......
So what if he is black. He's got it right. AMERICA FIRST.
America first. Let Israel get a grip,.
well if he is black, then maybe we should revert back to civil war times?? How would you like them apples?? Thats what i thought, saying that jews should be wiped off the face of the earth is actually not as bad as what happened to the slaves during the slave trade. Saying that Iran is not the US's problem is very stupid because Iran harbors terrorists and those terrorists will get their hands on nuclear technology and they will blow your ass off the face of the Earth
Iran has made it public knowledge that they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and now they're building nuclear "power plants" but won't let anyone take a look at them. Coincidence? Possibly but not very likely so more power to Israel for doing what they have to do in order to ensure their own survival and continued existence.
Except it will be the United States that suffers casualties (mostly gentile), and foots the bill (which it cannot afford) all over a whim of what they MIGHT have and MIGHT do with what they MIGHT have. Idiocy at its finest.
No Sam, what I was saying is let Israel do what they need to do, I'm not saying I want us to get involved, I don't think that would be smart and we don't have the same interest in the situation as Israel but they've shown in the past that they're willing to act unilaterally in their own best interest so why shouldn't they do the same thing now?
Why is there no ability to flag racist and ignorant posts on "soundoff". CNN, this type of smut doesn't make you look very good.
CNN doesn't need help to look bad.
They have been doing it for years to Christians. Now the Jewish people can have a turn.
Israel needs less help to look bad –
Because it involve israel. If it was Botswanna or Africa they would have voided over 75% of these posts!
Yep, it was only a matter of time before we would starting reading racist words stated by the galactically stupid.
Where was your outrage when CNN was attacking Christians at Christmas? It seems pretty one-sided to me.
I agree. Once and for all the world wants to get rid of this blue & white parasite. It has caused the world enough turmoil. Go ahead and attack israel, you won't survive this one.
Neither will you. That blue white parasite has hundreds of nukes and will use every sigle one of them if they go down. There will be nothing left of this planet if that happens. Idiot!!!
Slow your roll dude. "Kikes" I am anti Israel support but you denigrade yourself with such vitriol.
You think that we get peace if Israel is gone ?
You can pull your finger out of your nose,
you are getting snot on the keyboard.
Since there is no "report abuse" button
i have pasted your quote into an email and sent it to CNN
and demanded that you be permanently block from posting
in the future.
Others may want to follow this.
I am not even Jewish, but i find this garbage unacceptable, and will NOT put up with it.
There are links at the bottom of the page to contact CNN.
PLEASE DO!!!! If panetta is saying they might, that means he gave israel the green light. It's going to be a nice spring
I want US to stay out of this conflict. This is another attempt to draw the US into yet another costly war. This time to "save" israel. The answer is no. Isreal is a foreign country with a formidable army. We spent 11 years in the ME and achieved nothing. Nothing but the loss of a multi-trillion dollar surplus, countless deaths and destruction, less stability, higher oil prices, a massive debt to pay for all of it and the enrichment of haliburton and other mercernary firms that won no bid contracts. The answer is NO. fight your own war with your men, machines and money..Or get smart and stop this nonsense.
and if they attack despite the US indicating that they should hole off and not do so, we should cut off our massive amounts of foreign assistance to them. Their "independnet" actions will have very serious implications for the US, and ultimately put us iat greater risk of more terrorism.
We are out of the business of putting american lives at risk over other countries problems. This "beef" is between them and it we take our rightful place as outsiders to the issue, it may actually help to quell "terrorism". As Ron Paul is always saying we are attacked because we interfere in the politics of foreign lands to control their domestic resources. We take sides and topple governments that we don't like while propping up govs we do like. Even if they are completely in opposition to freedom. I do not buy the bill oreilly tale that iran is making bombs for others to us against the US. The US military is sitting this one out. We don't have the money or the will to continue. America first. The rest of the world when we are healthier. At least for now. If we don't back israel, will they attack? Maybe not. You and I simply disagree on this issue.
I totally agree !!!
I totally agree as Kelly said earlier. We have our own problems to tackle such as the economy and jobs.
Israel can MORE than handle Iran on it's own. They have one of most elite militaries in the world, and also some of the best weaponary. They've also got plenty of combat experience, whereas Iran hasn't been in battle since the 80's, Israel has been in pretty much it's ENTIRE existence. They'll strike and we'll hear about it later.
wow, you guys are really bright. Its really simple and goes like this, ready? get your pen out! Iran harbors terrorists, terrorists do bad things, Iran will give terrorists weapons that can blow up cities (including yours) with the push of a button. If you want Israel to do it themselves they can, but it will be your problem when Nuclear terrorism comes to your doorstep and maybe you will revert back to these posts and wonder, WTF was I talking about #notourproblem.....
someone has been brainwashed into propaganda. Live in fear your whole life. I as a 20 year old male will not live my whole life being scared. America...oh yeah
You really think that Iran is putting all of this effort, money, and energy into getting a nuclear weapon to give it to half-assed, incapable terrorists? Al Qaeda is broken. Iran will use it as a state weapon. And Israel is their target, not the U.S. We may get drawn into the war, but Iran is not able to attack us on our soil.
too bad that these guys didnt have a nuke, maybe could of pulled it off....
Oh and these half ass terrorists caused 9/11.....not so half ass after all?
LMAO! The Ten Commandments – Commandment # 3 – "3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Jesus Christ Worshippers? Allah Worshippers? You are ALL going to HELL! You worship a false messiah! Also, Jesus was a JEW! SO IF YOU HATE JEWS, YOU HATE JESUS! ROFLMAO!
Jesus was Judean – from Jerusalem – not a Jew in the sense that we all know Jews.
Jesus was most definitely Jewish. Not really under question.
Jesus was definitely Jewish. You know how Easter and Passover are so close together? The last supper was not a going away party....It was a Passover dinner. Also, you might want to read a few other stories in the Bible...you know all the ones about Jesus going to Temple...idiots....
Jesus was an Egyptian royal.
His real name was Cesarean.
He was crucified as a political figure who threatened
The throne of Rome and Egypt.
If the truth ever came out, The Roman Catholic church
All religions would fall.
The history of humankind is slowly being revealed.
Jews killed Jesus.
And you blow them. Ironic.
Romans put Jesus on the cross,
you are an azzhole.
"Iran both denied hostile intentions for its atomic energy, and threatened to unleash Armageddon."
That is a magnificent contradiction.!!!!
"You see every now and then in this way they say that all options are on the table. That means even the option of war," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said during Friday prayers in Tehran. "This is how they make these threats against us".
"Well, these kinds of threats are detrimental to the U.S.," he said. "The war itself will be 10 times as detrimental to the U.S."
He said Iran will support any nation or group that fights against Israel.
"The Zionist regime is really the cancerous tumor of this region and it needs to be removed and will be removed," Khamenei said to a cheering crowd.
NO GOOD CAN COME FROM THIS FOR ANYONE. Please GOD, help the people in the Middle East excercise restraint, and work for peace. The Middle East, and the US, have too many problems as it is. Lets not add to the pile.
Nothing good can come form this? Zionist state, you sound like an Iranian?
Personally I would let the Israelis act as our proxy in the region, They attacked Iraq for trying to do the same thing that Iran is doing, Iran has been quoted on numerous occasions as calling for the destruction of the Jewish state, well you pick a fight with the big dog on the mid-eastern stage.
I say waste em all, take out their wacko leadership, let the people of Iran have a voice again, cutting of the head of the dragon may solve the problem.
we should back Israel on this 100%
Take out their leader who looks like Ringo Star, and the house of cards will fall.
Israel is in a position to take calculated risk considering robust Israeli Defence Force (IDF) enhanced and extended strike potential and importantly an operational two-tier Anti-Tactical Ballistic Missile (ATBM) shield.
The Israeli Arrow 2 functions as the upper-tier of a two-tier combined air defence/ATBM network. The lower tier comprises of United States and Israeli Patriot PAC-2/PAC-3 batteries and United States Navy (USN) ship-borne AEGIS systems.
I find it very interesting that NO ONE ON CNN ever asks what will happen to the US the day after Iran is attacked. In other words just how terrible will our lives be?
Given how Iran reacted to the attack by Saddam, it is obvious the US will suffer a massive counter attack from Iran. While the moats around the US will prevent a physical attack on the homeland, Iran can easily destroy all the oil infrastructure in the ME, sending the price of oil to the moon for at least six months if not longer. And when the price of oil is well over USD 200/bbl and rationed, how much food will be transported in the US?
Attacking Iran is a huge risk and Americans should think very carefully about how badly they want war with the ME and possibly China and Russia.
Does anyone ever ask what might happen to the US once Iran has nuclear weapons?
Go to Israel and see how they treat non-Jews. They are a nation built on occupation, desorting history, bringing other nations to send their kids to fight for them while they plan for the next war. While we send our kids to die for them, they make policy to make money out of it. Ask Leiberman....
I have been to Israel and see first hand how they treat non-Jews. There is no difference. The fact is, most Israelis don't consider themselves religious so why should they care if someone isn't Jewish. Take your inflammatory speech elsewhere
I have lived in Israel for 15 years and have seen close up how the jewish majority treats the non-jewish minority, mostly arabs, both muslim and christian. One of the ways that I have always described life in Israel to folks back in the States is that it is very "Americanized", not Westernized but Americanized. One of the many reasons that I use that term is specifically because minorities in Israel are treated, at the national level, much how they are in the US. Everyone has the same rights and privledges regardless of race, religion, political affiliation, etc. Arabs are elected to the Knesset. The number of arab students in Israeli universities is proportional to their population (look it up). There are arab policeman, techers, bnusinessmen, etc. The doctor on the Kibbutz i lived on was arab Palistinean (and he was a very good doctor), educated and trained in Bir Zeit University (built in the West Bank for the Palestineans by Israel).
That said, do I think that Palestineans inthe occupied ("administered" as the government calls it) territories are (were) treated well? No, I think that they are (were) treated like an untrusted, potentially hostile, occupied people but keep in mind some facts:
1. The West Bank and Gaza are NOT Israel so folks there do not have the same rights as Israelis (just like Canadians don't have the same rights as Americans in America)
2. The israraelis have withdrawn from these territories and they are now run by their own elected leaders
You can disagree with many things that Israel may do, say or act,and they are certainly not a perfect country, but the way they treat their own citizens, including all minorities, is just like we do in America – and that's about as good as it gets.
What on earth are you talking about? There is full religious freedom in Israel and people of other faiths are treated with the utmost fairness, deference and respect. Israel is a thriving democratic state where Jews, Muslims and Christians enjoy equal rights. If you had a choice of one country to live in the Middle East and were of a minority group, Israel would be the place to be.
All I have to say is this... "fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!"
If Isreal goes in, the Us will have their back despite what everyone might think. Iran is stalling for time, we all know this and Iran has, added fuel to this fire for years, so you've made your bed and you may just have to lay there smoldering in it.
As for publicizing this, it's no secret where any of this was leading. This is merely a tactic to get the attention of the Iranian people who can ultimately make a choice of what their government is doing.
It's coming up on spring again – so "The Arab Spring" is upon many in the ME so topling an Iranian regime "why not?"
So, if this got the attention of the "normal people" "people just like you" in Iran, then perhaps this situation can be fought by them within their own ranks and never have to worry about Isreal or how the US will react.
Element of surprise is only effective if you are trying to get the mission accomplished point blank; basically saying we're through waiting and negotiations are off the table.
Notifying the world, lets people realize that "you are on the edge of destruction" or at best "edge of chaos" so to all Iranians it's time to step it up and fight for your right to survive. If you allow your government to decide for you – you are the ones who will suffer.
As for US aiding Isreal – of course and for Isreal to think they have existed due to their own might is arrogant. There is nothing wrong with needing an ally. We've all got them, that's what makes us strong. Isolationism doesn't work quite like it used to in the modern world so let it go –
As for everything else. Don't get steamed about what other people say – not everyone gets it. And this is just a time passerby.
Need to get back to the real war now...
Last blurb, you probably never want to see us coming; because those who have are not here to comment on this blog.
The best prepared will win. We killed the American Indian, took their land, broke promises. No one is innocent. it is just a matter of who has the most guns to kill the other. Been going on since man starting walking the earth. Philosophical crap being posted here is meaningless.
And your point is?
My point is, what is the point in all this? It is in man's heart to kill those that are different and or lack of mutual respect. When it is said the God's are looking our for us, it should be said that man killls over belief in God.
What truly amazes me is the number of Americans that side with the terrorists !! All those of you whom actually believe terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah serve a useful purpose should simply join these terrorist groups !! Apparently, those of you that do support terrorist groups such as Hamas & Hezbollah already FORGOT your 9/11 tragedy at the hands of another terrorist group known as al Qaeda. Completely un-American !! I too work for the US Government. I am stationed in Langley, VA and work at your CIA HQ. Those of you whom side with the terrorists better be very, very careful. Your CIA and my Mossad are watching you very, very carefully. Off to work I go now...
IDF = ISraeli Dikless Freak...
@ Joe Gets – Name calling?? What are you pre-kindergarten level?? Why don't you go to your bathroom at beat off you crack-head !! You are a Nazi and you will be hunted down like a cockroach !!
OK fine. I'm like a cockroach but YOU are a cockroach.
@Joe Gets – your comments are truely moronic and you obviously suffer from some sort of ailment that precludes clear thought. Good luck to you sir.
Yes, OUR 9/11 which is YOUR fault.
go fight your own war and leave the US out of it.
I think the majority of Americans support Israel on this, even though they may not be vocal about it. The primary point of contention is whether we back you up or let you do your strike on your own – which you're more than capable of.
The majority of Americans DO NOT support fighting israel's battles and sending them billions of dollars each year.
It does not nothing but keep us in a perpetual state of war.
According the the bible, Israel will be destroyed.
Iran is just itching for Israel to retaliate. This will trigger a nuke attack by Russian, China and India, hence Armageddon.
And according to Al Gore this is global warming.
Oh Noooooo... we all are going to die....!!!
Get real, if Israel was going to attack would they let their enemy know? or they would rather have a surpised attack and lessen the posibility of their soldier get out un-harmed..?
China and Russia are both secular, pragmatic states. They aren't going to launch their nukes because of an Iran-Israeli conflict.
Do you not read Ezekiel regarding Gog??? It is china and russia who will be involved in the end time prophesy's.
Why would Russia retaliate on Israel? About a half of Israel speaks Russian and the relationship between two countries is much closer then that between Russia and Iran.
Pray history does repeat -please do not forget the USS Liberty
USS Liberty will NOT be forgotten
Well, you went down on the USS Liberty, and the men who were there are appreciative,
whats with the double standards here. why do we turn a blind eye to the nuclear weapons Israel while at the same time getting blood thirsty when Iran attempts to get nuclear weapons. What we should be doing is passing sanctions against Israel, Pakistan, India, and Iran.
Israel isn't a rogue nation, oppressing their own people, while admittedly aiding some of the largest terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, while it's proven Iran has provided weapons to the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not to mention they openly hate all western found form of government, want to see Israel virtually destroyed, men women and children. Pretty sure that might have something to do with it.