Panetta believes Israel could strike Iran this spring
By Barbara Starr
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has come to the conclusion there is a growing likelihood Israel could attack Iran sometime this spring in an effort to destroy its suspected nuclear weapons program, according to a senior administration official.
The official declined to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the information.
Panetta's views were first reported by the Washington Post's David Ignatius, who wrote Panetta "believes there is strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June - before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Asked by reporters in Brussels, where Panetta is attending NATO meetings, the defense secretary refused to comment. But Panetta told reporters the U.S. has "indicated our concerns" to Israel, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department.
But the official also noted that Israel goes through cycles of making aggressive statements about its intentions toward Iran in an effort to pressure the United States and the West to take more action.
Iran's supreme leader issued a blunt warning Friday that war would be detrimental to the United States - and that Iran is ready to help anyone who confronts "cancerous" Israel.
"You see every now and then in this way they say that all options are on the table. That means even the option of war," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said during Friday prayers in Tehran. "This is how they make these threats against us.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned Thursday that Iran may be close to the point "which may render any physical strike as impractical," according to Reuters.
But just a few weeks ago, Barak suggested things were not as urgent, saying an Israeli decision on whether to strike Iran's nuclear program was "very far off."
A "confluence' of intelligence has led Panetta to this conclusion, the official told CNN, but declined to offer any specifics except noting that the United States conducts intelligence operations aimed at Israel as it does with many other allies.
The senior administration official also noted that there is a general understanding in the administration that Israel may have come to the firm conclusion Iran is developing a nuclear weapon. Just last week, the recently retired chief of Israeli military intelligence told CNN's David McKenzie that the "Iranians have already decided that they want nuclear weapons," he said. But he added they haven't decided fully to go through with creating the weapons.
The official U.S. assessment is that Iran has not yet made that decision, the source said.
At a Senate hearing on Tuesday, Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus, who said he has regular discussions with Israel's leadership and intelligence head, noted that "Israel does see this possibility as an existential threat to their country, and I think that it is very important to keep that perspective in mind."
At the same hearing, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper noted the United States works closely with the Israelis and said the notion that Israel could strike is "a very sensitive issue right now."
"This is an area that we are very, very concerned about," Clapper said.
Panetta's press secretary, George Little, declined to comment on the report. Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently said it would be premature for the United States to consider striking Iran.
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The unsaved people on here just don't get it. Israel will not fail....did you also know that when Jesus comes back all knees will bow, even those who still reject Him? They will bow, then still go to hell, regretting their decisions to reject Jesus. There will be many tears of regret that day.
Idiot at keyboard error. Please reboot your machine.
Go to Israel and see how they treat non-Jews. They are a nation built on occupation, desorting history, bringing other nations to send their kids to fight for them while they plan for the next war. While we send our kids to die for them, they make policy to make money out of it. Ask Leiberman....
One way or another....this Iranian administration full of religious zealots, must be stopped. Case closed.
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F U.........
Its called freedom of speech drone. Go work in your cubicle thinking youre doing something good.. Punks gotta learn to stop SNITCHIN...
@ Whodunnit – What happened, did you run short in your supply of crack?? Better get a refill...
Have to get back to my job at MI6. We already know who you are since we allocated your PII in the first place. Dont ask what PII is – its against the law (US 314, 159, 265) to know. Get back to work and stop slacking off.
Ok, I will call the FBI and send them what you just wrote and let's see how they feel about you.
@NK The 99.9% of the Jews in Israel have no historical connection to Palestine. These are all immigrants from different parts of the world. That's what Ahmadinjad means when he says "1948" but you are too stupid to understand that.
But tell me one thing what will you do when Jesus Christ will exterminate the Jews? Will you fight your god or help with the extermination.
Joe the Coward, are you still meeting me at my Church on Sunday morning? I have to get back to my job while you have to get ready for your Friday prayers of "Death to America", "Death to Israel", "Death to England", "Death to any country that has Christians or Jews".
@ Joe Gets – Jesus exterminate the Jews?? Why would he do that when he was a Jew himself?? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?? It truly amazes me how uneducated some of you Americans really are. Either that, or you have just been smoking too much of that crack pipe.
Wow,
so your perception of Jesus is some Rambo like murderer? You actually believe that the entity that is supposed to represent peace and eternal love is going to just start ruthlessly killing people? lmao thanks it's always nice to have a good laugh in the morning.
PERPETUAL WAR.
This is what Conservatism, communism, radical M u s l i m ideology and Israel is all about. Their goal is to keep Halliburton and Lockheed Martin in the b l a c k.
Anyway. This is a moot point. According to the Bible Israel will be destroyed (Armageddon).
Well that fits conveniently with radical Shia ideology. You're in good company!
the people of Israel don,t want war with Iran they are more concerned with a living wage, and don,t forget the jews who live in peace in Iran, which also happens to be a multi cultural country, Tehran is home to many Irish citizens I have family there also. If Israel attacks then that is there right but let them do it on there own and face the consequence,s
Here we go getting dragged into another war. Is that what the majority of American people want? I understand that Israel is one of our greatest supporters, along with England, but part of the reason for the Iraq war was to help Israel feel more secure, not because Iraq had attacked the U.S. and we all know there were no weapons of mass destruction. That war added 100s of billions of dollars to our debt and thousands of American lives. Are we about to go there again?
This will not be like shooting kids in Gaza.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/investor-relations/
Hamas do that all the time, in between firing rockets at Israeli kids.
The Jews were responsible for the death of Jesus.
Why do you think that they are a tiny spot on the planet, surrounded by millions of their enemies?
This is payback time.
@Larry, we know your real name is Muhammad. Nice try though. Your religion of Islam is filled with hatred for anyone not Muslim.
@ Larry – We Israeli's have plenty of Christian and Catholic supporters. You are blaming the Jews for the death of Jesus?? I think is was more like the Romans?? Anyhow, I worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I do not worship Jesus. Jesus was a very smart human being, but in no way do I accept that he was born to a virgin, nor do I accept or worship any fallen human as my messiah. Unfortunately, people that are blinded by this always seem to falls through the cracks as was the case under your former Reverend Jim Jones & his People's Temple, David Koresh, etc.
Yes the Jews did put Christ on the cross and denied Him and that is why He then offered salvation to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. All Jews will be saved but not until the 7 yr. tribulation time. God opens their eyes and they will finally see whom they have pierced.
Larry, you speak filth.
Jews. The people responsible for the death of Jesus.
Why do you think that they are a tiny spot on the planet, surrounded by millions of their enemies?
This is payback.
Some people believe Hizbollah propaganda, others believe Hamas.
And some still believe the Romans'!
My Jewish friends, please read below and see the fate that awaits you. Evangelical support for Isreal is only due to their belief about coming of the Messiah but in the end you will be terminated. A 2nd holocaust awaits at the hands of Christ.
Many Christians talk about how Jesus Christ will bring peace to the world, once and for all. But they often neglect to mention how this world “peace” is obtained. It is only after slaughtering his opponents and subduing “the nations” (the entire world?) under the foot of the global Christian empire that the world will have “peace”. Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible explains:
There shall be no more war; horses and chariots shall be no more used in a hostile way; but there shall be perfect peace, all enemies being destroyed, which agrees with Micah 2:3 Zechariah 9:10.
@Joe and racist Muslims: Once again, who is right? Christian bible – Jews have been living in Israel for more than 4,000 years. Ahmadinejad and the racists – the Jews have been living in Israel only since 1948.
Actually Jews were a nation of people WITHOUT a country for 4000 years, back in the day they LIived together with their enimies in Palistine they all fell from the same Tree – BUT Due to their own Seperationist lives they did NOT intergrate like the Muslims and probably 70% of the world- Brazil has the Largest population of Japanese outside of Japan but they DONT intergrate- Brazil was the LARGEST importer of African slaves for 100's of years BUT when slavery ended they intergrated
Having said that They all have Beautiful women & IF I was Israel i would BOMB the Crap out of the little Hitler in Iran- better yet put a $50 BILLION dollar bounty on his head- it would be loopped off quick
Well considering that the scriptures were written at a time when you could sail off the end of the world, I would think most of the planet will be safe. It is interesting that all of these religions know about the afterlife, but didn't have a clue about something just a few thousand miles away.
Silverdeer, only the pagans believed in a flat earth. You know: Elephants and turtles holding up a Monopoly board. People of the Book understood Isaiah 40 and the "circle (sphere) of the earth". Stop believing the Establishment propaganda.
The 99.9% of the Jews in Israel have no historical connection to Palestine. These are all immigrants from parts of the world. That's what Ahmadinjad means when he says "1948" but you are too stupid to understand that.
But tell me one thing what will you do when Jesus Christ will exterminate the Jews? Will you fight your god or help with the extermination.
You are so right my friend. It is full time we all realize the fulfillment of the prophesies are upon us.
Jeremiah 51:35–May the violence done to our flesh be upon Babylon, say the inhabitants of Zion. "May our blood be on those who live in Babylon says Jerusalem. 38- Her people all roar like young lions, they growl like lion cubs. But while they are aroused I will set out a feast for them and make them drunk, so that they shout with laughter-then sleep forever and not awake declares the Lord. 49–Babylon must fall b/c of Israel's slain, just as the slain in all the earth have fallen because of Babylon. 51–We are disgraced for we have been insulted and same covers our faces because foreigners have entered the holy places of the Lords' home.56-I will repay in full.
Israel is as about as big as my garage!!! They run around acting and talking tough then go hide behind big brother USA.. Hahaha , how pathetic!!!! They got their asses kicked in southern Lebanon a few years back , ..and without the US we are to believe that Israel is so tough and ruthless and coukd take on Iran by themselves so called in the name of self defense or something .FOH ..Get real
@Aziz, it is 8:28AM, your al-qaeda meeting begins in 32 minutes. Go pray to Allah. My lord and saviour Jesus Christ will protect the Jews living in the homeland of 4,000 years.
@NK Booo...lol that was wack
.OK OK...If Native American Indians start taking over and occupying cities here in the US , we beter just site back and shut up huh . After all this was their homeland thousands off years ago .. They would just be taking back what was theirs thousands off years ago...Now how much sense does that make ....
Did you see southern Lebanon after the war?
Did you see northern Israel?
Do you honestly believe Hizbollah propaganda?
Money is the downfall of Israel's military incursions. They have to get it gifted from the US and that historical trend is no longer a certainty especially from Obama. This is one reason they have such a powerful lobby within US congress, to get military aid and cash aid. Keep in mind they press for aid and not loans.
Without US military aid, which is also gifted to many in the region who unlike Israel do not pay back 80% into the US economy, Israel will be released of all the conditions which come with the aid and can sell what they want to whom they want and unfortunately US military and citizens will find themselves far more vulnerable.
Actually, yes. They have a large standing and reserve army with technology equivalent (and in some cases better such as their tanks) to the US. Go read about the Arab-Isreali war...they had 4 or 5 countries take them on and they sent them home with their tail between their legs. Pretty incredible really for such a small country.
Tanks have nearly become obsolete. The best tank is only as good as it's armor and the M1A2 has a new generation armor that is so impressive it cannot be exported. We have the British to thank for that technology. Ask any tank soldier in the US Cavalry what they want to sit in of all the battle tanks and they will say M1A2 please.
Nuke those Iranian fools. Let them find their GOD in person, all of them.
great idea, let's put this on the internet.. no one in Iran will ever read such an article...
Because Iranians can't read?
Maybe I should use this as an election ploy? Can't think of any other way to be reelected. Got to go, time for another vacation.
All nations who thought themselves to be invincible are no more. That will be the plight of Israel and US.
Including the form Persian empire now known as Iran?
@Joe, you talk brave behind the computer. Can you meet me at my Church parking on Sunday at 9:45AM? Thank you. I want to meet a real live total racist and anti-Semite.
fool! Israel will attack because its feeling threatened, not invincible. I wonder why they feel threatened? Maybe because of Iran's petro dollars funding terrorist groups all around it?
Israel would much prefer to have the US attack as their proxy army. They are looking to that to happen after the election especially if they can get Newt elected or another GOP candidate that has signed the loyalty oath in exchange for American Jews support and money.
No one is concern that it is against international law to attack a soverant Nation. Who gave Israel rights to attack Iran or any other nation. Why the world is not concern about Israelies 200 plus atomic bombs.
Duh? Israel is not threatening to attack countries for no reason!! The Jews have been in Israel for 4,000 years. Why can't you Muslims leave them alone? Grow up
4000 years huh?....wow...how about we make the Jews the genetic starting point for all humanity? Next you'll say the Chinese are actually descendents of the Jews...what imbecile.
Israel is killing Palestinians every single day and yet they are the Dove of peace???? Wow you are a Sycho. Israel basically destroyed every single country in middle east and yet they did not do anything. Israel was behind the Iraq invasion and yet they are innocents. You are something aren't you.
@ Black Panther – You are an IDIOT !! Israelis are killing your innocent Palestinians everyday?? And how many innocent Israeli women and children are dying at the hands of the Palestinians?? Did you ever hear of Hamas?? Do you support Hamas?? Maybe you should join Hamas, Hezbollah or al Qaeda even, you moron !!
@Black Panther. It is spelled "psycho". Did you know that the Jews helped found the NAACP and stood with MLK? A Jewish guy recruited the first black player into the NBA? It is a shame that you are brainwashed with the evils in the Muslim world. My chuch each month sends money to support Israel and nuts like you will help us raise more money.
Let's see go back to 1948. UN divided Palestine into two countries. Just see map of Palestine in 1948 and see the current map of Palestine. Who occupied who's land?? Who is occupying Golan Heights?? who is occupying 10 mile wide strip along Lebnon's border. Which country started 1967 Was. Who attack Egypt with France and England by their side. Who attack Iraq's nuclear rector. Who attack Syrian nuclear reactor and list goes on .......and the answere is ISRAEL.
Hamas, Hezbolloh, the embassy bomb plot, the holocaust deniers conference, etc. No, there's not reason to suspect that Iran is up to anything nefarious.
What proof is there that Israel will attack Iran? Why accuse them of something that hasn't happened.
Unlike Iran who constantly uses its proxies to attack Israel's north, south and interests in S. America, Asia......
Hey racist Muslims: Who is right? Christian bible – Jews have been living in Israel for more than 4,000 years. Ahmadinejad and the racists – the Jews have been living in Israel only since 1948.
get your facts straight...the jews that you speak of that lived in the region 4000 years ago were always there and still are before and after the creation of the apartheid state called "Israel"...no one exterminated them outside of the region...and that group of jewish people have nothing against arabs or muslims in the first place i.e. they do not have a zionist agenda...the people who controls Israel now are "european" jews (not from the original land) who migrated from around the world and now want all others to simply get killed or move out of the land so that they can steal and plunder...you have used and used the US for your evil designs so much so that the US will itself disintegrate as a world power because of wars started on your behalf...but there are some americans who can see the true face of "friendly" Israel
@ sheela – Did anyone ever tell you how stupid you are? If not, allow me to be the first. You are a complete moron. Is your real name "sheela" or is it Eva Braun, maybe?
wrong!
Wow, what a come back. What does IDF stand for "I Dig Fags".
in my mind the definition of stupid arrogant people – the retards who are given all the latest military hardware in the world with complete defense intel yet they get their behinds whooped by who...poor poor hisbolah...these are the mighty soldiers of the IDF! LOL...without the help of the US, Jesus, would you even survive a week???
@ sheela – How would like to go on a special vacation trip with me? I would like to take you on a memorable trip to Auschwitz in Poland and leave you there you complete idiot !! Do you even know the meaning of the word genocide?? You are an anti-semite and about all I can suggest is, if you truly believe Hezbollah is so powerful, why don't you join them?? Nothing would make me happier than to present you with a pineapple, and I am not talking about the fruit !!
The Zionists and Israelis should realize that this is not the same Middle East it used to be. Who are they going to fly over or will they just "beam me up scotty" to Iran? Iraq is an Iranian ally and Egypt has an anti-Israel government. They are dreaming if they think it should be a cake to bomb Iran,
@Joe, you talk brave behind a computer. Meet me at my Church in Rockville, Maryland. I dare you. What time are you done with your al-qaeda meeting? Thank you.
I meet instead. Is 1:00pm today OK. I would like to shi.... on you.
OOOOhhh, I'm so scared. I just pooped in ma pants. U wanna eat it.
You must be clueless if you think Israel is unaware of what is going on in the ME. I reckon they know a lot more than you.
But judging by your posts you seem extremely knowledgable when it comes to digging up all sorts of anti-Jewish tid-bits.
Israelis dont think its gonna be "cake". They think its going to be a very hard war that is necessary to preserve their survival. You seem to think that Israelis discuss war as Americans do. But unlike in America, in Israel, war is always discussed in the context of survival.
Also keep in mind that before America took out sadaam, Iran and Iraq where in check of each other. Now, thanks to Bush (and now Obama), both countries are run by Shiite extremists.... and Israel has to deal with it in the form of emboldened terrorist proxies and threat of nuclear annihilation. We are headed for war, guys. Hold on, this one is going to be big.
My St. Raphael’s Catholic Church in Rockville, Maryland and the 2 billion Christians world-wide strongly support the Jews living in their homeland and defending themselves from the racist Iran. The Jews were in the land of Israel for more than 2,000 years BEFORE Islam even began.
The Jews living in Israel today are as much descendants of the children of Jacob as the residents of New York are the descendants of Peter Minuet's Dutch Colonists. The Palestinians are the descendants of the same people that the Israeli tribes tried to exterminate 3500 years ago when they came from Egypt to a land that they never inhabited but was promised to one of their ancestors in return for sacrificing his son. Your argument holds as much water as a straw hat.
I love it:) Perfect rebuttal.
Interesting. Native Americans were present in Maryland thousands of years before Christianity even began. Maybe the white people should have just left them alone, huh?
MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet, page 43"But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them." l
So he was a bigot just like you.
BBC NEWS, 27/12/2011
Rabbis Dov Lior and Yacob Yousef had endorsed a highly controversial book, the King's Torah – written by two lesser-known settler rabbis. It attempts to justify killing non-Jews, including those not involved in violence, under certain circumstances.
The fifth chapter, entitled "Murder of non-Jews in a time of war" has been widely quoted in the Israeli media. The summary states that "you can kill those who are not supporting or encouraging murder in order to save the lives of Jews".
At one point it suggests that babies can justifiably be killed if it is clear they will grow up to pose a threat.
And what are the opening words of the book?
The book begins with the fact that it is forbidden to kill non-Jews.
The rest of it deals with situations when such actions are unavoidable.
They have used that same argument since Deuteronomy. It still doesn't make it right.
The Canadian Press, Feb. 16, 2011
A Montreal doctor has been suspended and fined for filming female patients with a hidden camera while they were naked. Quebec's College of Physicians says it has suspended Dr. Barry Rabinovitch for four months and fined him $3,000. According to the disciplinary report released Tuesday, the investigation found that Rabinovitch filmed 10 to 15 women in various stages of undress in an examining room between January and May 2009. The 56-year-old is a married father of two children and a lung specialist. He is also an associate professor with McGill University's medical faculty.
@ Joe Gets – Your propaganda almost sounds like the same type of TRASH that Hitler and the Nazis used back in the 1930's. Also, this has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter. Why don't you go stand in a corner somewhere and beat yourself off.
Dude, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Maybe, the Nazis knew you guys and your cunning ways.
@ Joe Gets – No, I think not. Maybe the Mossad should keep an eye on trash like yourself and send you off to a forced labor or extermination camp so that you can learn the true meaning of genocide. But then again, genocide maybe to advanced of a term for you to comprehend.
Joe- go to your neo-Nazi meeting. It starts at 9AM
NK, How do you know it starts at 9am? Is there something yo want to tell us?
I am Cathoic so the Nazis do not like me. Also my neighbors are Jewish and fantastic. They do not want to hear that
Whats your point Joe? You don't get it do you? One bad Jewish doctor and your narrow mind wants to paint every Jewish doctor with this? Its your right to chose your doctor and its also your right to express your anti-semitism. The fact is if a Mossad agent wanted to take you out, he could wherever and whenever at a time of his or her choosing. Remember that and make sure you keep looking over your shoulders.....you piece of ignorant garbage.
Something has to be done about Iran soon. With this type of regime, Iran must not possess weapons of mass destruction, otherwise, there is a good chance that there will be consequences for Iran. Because of the few stupid people, a lot of innocent people suffer. It doesn't have to be that way.
You people put them there, now suffer the consequences.
If the CIA had not overthrown the legitimately elected government of Iran in the 50s and returned the Shah to power, we probably wouldn't be in this situation right now.
BILL HEMMER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Thank you. Again, our apologies to our viewers about five minutes ago, but we do have an established connection now with CNN's Deborah Feverick. The reports we're getting now, two or three men arrested on the New Jersey Parkway. Deborah, can you hear me now?
DEBORAH FEVERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I can. That is the information that I am getting from two sources, that there was a van either on the New Jersey Turnpike or the Garden State Parkway, and that it was near the George Washington Bridge.
There were two or three men who were in the van that was pulled over. It is not clear why the van was pulled over, but when it was, law enforcers found tons of explosives inside of the van.
That is, right now, all I am hearing. But again, two to three people in custody, and we are trying to get more information on that right now.
HEMMER: Deborah, I don't mean to put you on the spot here. Do you know where on the Jersey Turnpike this was? How far from New York City?
FEVERICK: We do not know that. We are looking into that. There is one report that it was on the New Jersey Turnpike. There is another report that it was very close to the bridge, if not on the bridge. So again, these details are emerging. We're trying to piece them together. But that's what we have so far, two to three people in custody, found with a van filled with explosives.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/
No matter what happens, I believe the U.S. and its allies will handle it better than Bush/Cheney were in office. They betrayed our country.
We destroyed the Osirak Nuclear Facility in Iraq back in June 1981, with no help from anyone. We then destroyed a Syrian Nuclear Facility that was being built back in September 2007, with no help from anyone. When we get the order to destroy Iran's Nuclear Facility, we will, once again, go at it alone, with no help from anyone. The Israeli Air Force is the Finest in the World. And if anyone has any doubt, just look at our complete history dating all the way back to the six-day war of 1967, Yom Kippur war of 1973, Raid on Entebbe 1976, etc.
With no help from anyone? Who built the jets you flew? Who built the bombs you dropped on those targets? Who provided the intel on the targets? Best take that ego down a few notches before it gets you in trouble slick.
US did not provide any military assistance until after the 67 war when it was in there interest as a counter balance to soviet influence in the region. The jets and bombs that Israel purchases from the US are just a boost to the US military industrial complex. The US actually shut down the native israeli warplane development so it can perpetuate its own industry. Israel, despite its limited natural resources still produces its own firearms Uzi, tavor. It has developed its own native missile defense system, tanks, computer systems, and it has developed many innovations for US troops such as the trophy missile shield for tanks. The notion that the US props up the entire Israeli military is hogwash, it def is a main component, but it is by no means the only one.
@ Jack 63 – Who paid for those jets that were built? Also, who did provide the intel? It sure as heck wasn't your CIA. Did you ever hear of the Mossad? No? Better read up on the 1972 Munich Games and the work my government and intelligence did to capture and kill all the ring leaders behind that tragedy. The Mossad helps your CIA more than you'll ever know, but I guess you just do not know how to accept the facts, or do you?
go back and hide behind the walls mr. mighty IDF...if it was not for United States you would not exist to say the least...you are a petulant arrogant man...your military cannot even take care of hisbolah all of a sudden with "no help" from anyone you conquered the world...why so much lobbying in the US (and the rest of the world) politics then...without any help, give us a break superman!
You are not well informed. I believe your patriotism has clouded your logic.
If your Mossad was as good as you claim, they should have foreseen that before it happened, don't you think...?
Also, don't get too cocky about destroying the facilities in Iraq and Syria, Iran is a different beast. If you don't believe me, then look at the American Operation Eagle Claw...
Isreal stole its nuclear weapons weapons from the U.S. and you get all your weapons from us to but don't want to give us any credit, go ahead and attack Iran alone, there won't be any Isreal left for us to waste money and weapons on.
@IDF, we strongly support the IDF. My St. Raphael’s Catholic Church in Rockville, Maryland and the 2 billion Christians world-wide strongly support the Jews living in their homeland and defending themselves from the racist Iran. The Jews were in the land of Israel for more than 2,000 years BEFORE Islam even began.
US is done. Giant in decline. Another few years and we'll be another Roman Empire. Americans and American government are too stupid to learn from history. Years of brainwashing have done its job.
Making a broad statement of support for Israel is silly. You have no basis for it. Many many people in the US and elsewhere have had enough of Israel's preferential treatment. Even some Pope's have spoken out against Zionists. Better get your facts straight.
Who cares where some people were 2000 or 50000 years ago? Does that mean that we have to give the people who lived in the U.S. their own country??? Oh wait, that wouldn't be too good would it?
Amen. You have far more support inside America than this week administration would lead you to believe. Hold it down over there. Kick ass.
*weak* 🙂
Remember, if Israel always interest war, no country will support it in the end, like French away from you in 1960's, UK away from you in 1970's.
Screw Israel and war crime tactics, If Iran cant have a nuclear weapon then you big nose jews cant either. I so dare Israel to strike Iran, Iran will make hummus out of you Israeli's. The United States will be fools to get involved in another war, they lost two wars in the past 10yrs
Israel already has plenty of nukes stockpiled.
I really fell for Israel we put them in the situation. Israel has a good air force but not the finest in the world the US air force could if it wanted to could destroy Israel air force in a matter of days if not hours. You need to read your history the only reason Israel was able to win the six day war was because it was given tank and equipment by the US to replace the ones that were destroyed. Yes Israel has a good military and is a US ally but I think Israel should think twice about attacking Iran without the UN or at least the US and Europe’s backing. Israel is surrender by hostel country; The US might not be able to respond if needed to help Israel do to the fact the US has been at war for 11 years in two countries. NATO is busy so if Israel chooses to attack Iran it might very well be on its own with no help from other countries. And we still don’t know what Russia and china will do if Israel attacks Iran. Israel would be in big trouble if both these country come to Iran’s aid I would think about that before bragging about how good Israel military is, do you think Israel could defeat Iran China and Russia on its own? I don’t it doesn’t have the manpower, hell I’m not sure if the US could win a war against all three of them without help and our military is three times the size of Israel.
Well past history and honestly, fairly old history bar Syria is not exactly a guarantee of contemporary success so listing past glories means little.
As for Osirak, well the Israeli Airforce were the second to strike it, Iran were first to launch a strike in 1980, more importantly, it didn't work and these kind of counter-proliferation strikes really cannot work. After the Israeli strike the Iraqi program went underground with increases in both manpower and funding as per the Iraqis themselves(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0302/07/cf.00.html). It did not stop the Iraqi program; it did slow it down mind which was no small thing. What did halt the Iraqi program was full scale ground invasions in 1991 and 2003, the former severely curtailing the freedom of movement of any programs and subjecting Iraq to onerous inspections. The latter invasion completely removing any chance to reactivate the defunct program.
Iran's sites are better protected, more numerous and probably not all known so any strike may well not have even a significant retarding effect, it will convince the Iranians that the bomb is needed. Barring a voluntary cessation by the Iranians, nothing short of a full invasion and overthrow of the regime will prevent them or anyone else that wants nukes and has the capability from getting the bomb. But a full invasion is costly in many ways and no small act, clearly as a form of counter-proliferation full scale invasion is not a practical tool. A strike will create a whole mess of new problems in the region, Iran is not Syria and will not take an Israeli strike on the chin and leave it there.
You stole your nuclear weapons from the U.S. and you get funding from us as well, I don't know your alone thing, but you don't stand a chance against Iran, good luck going alone.
war is not something to be glamourized. how much of us typing here right now have felt the full direct effect of WAR. It is sad however most of people such a war would have the darkest effect on does not have a say on this forum
All the anti Semites on here should go pick poppies and stone some women with their Muslim buddies.
Binyamin, I am tired of us here expecting those Jews to continually do our dirty work for us because it is not politically correct for us to do it. They do the things that wouldn't look good for us to do and when people say junk about them, our government just sticks it's head in the sand. I'm just a Texas dirt farmer and rancher but I know Israel and Great Britain are our best friends.
I plan on bombing them this Summer. My reelection depends on it. I can't win on my last 3 years of screwing everything up but I can win by having evil Iran blown up making me look like a strong leader instead of the fool I am.
Obama will be re-elected. I have no doubt about that. Too bad for you. 🙂
Four years to fix eight years of complete destruction.
Obama 2012.
Finally looking out for interests of U.S. soldiers, U.S. Defense establishment warns Israeli war hawks: Attack Iran, you're on your own ...... we do not need your crap Israeli.
No one, Israel included , wants to strike the reactors...but if Iran wants to pursue nuke weapons then it is a direct threat to the very survival of Israel...as Iran has stated in the past " Israel is tiny..it would not take many nukes to wipe them out " Surely you can see that this is not war-mongering but self-preservation...they have waited for diplomacy to work but due to China,Russia,Pakistan, and others nothing is going to be done...their actions have put the middle east on a course for conflict...but you choose to just blame Israel, you are wrong
And why exactly will the US stand by or enable Israel to commit this aggression resulting in a catastrophic conflict and $7.00 gasoline?
Because it is being blackmailed with the truth of 9/11. Tell the damn truth and prevent WW3.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/as-the-crow-flies/
Oil companyies should already be getting your 7 $ a gallon, we are paying almost 4$ a gallon CDN and our currency is on par with yours and besides we got the majority of Americas Oil here in Canada. Too bad your president declined the Keystone Pipeline from Alberta, maybe we should be the ones refining it and selling it to you Americans for 7$ a gallon...
As for Iran, maybe te americans need to unload their Nuclear knowledge on them and show them what good Nuclear really does to people. God will sort them out in the end although they probably get them 75 virgins but sure enough they will all probably dirty filthy sluts...
The sad thing about 9/11 is that Bush/Cheney administration knew about the attacks prior to it happening, they just needed an excuse to go back to Iraq and finish off Saddam. Its a dam shame how Bush killed his own American people just too fill up his pockets with more $$ and oil.
You mean the explosives placed in the twin towers by Marvin Bush,
head of security ?
Here is my feelings on this subject, with all due respect to everybody else. I feel as if we as a nation and a world are totally exhausted by war and saber rattling. I respect a nations right to protect themselves from those who will do all they can do to harm their sovereignty, but at some point we need to draw a line. I feel the best way to handle rouge nations and leaders is to do it quickly and quietly with the backing of the UN.. My problem with just out right attacking Iran is all of the innocent people, who never asked to be in this situation who will suffer from an attack on nuclear reactors. An attack on those points will do nothing other than legitimize iran's position against the west, and create even more chaos in a region already in turmoil. From what I can understand most of the people of Iran are not a fan of their leaders and their current state, so why punish them for the sins of their leaders? War is Hell, literally, and I am not a fan of the idea of all out war anymore. First off, from a non humanitarian way of looking at things, is we cannot afford another war, and our enemies know this.. I believe that the world sharing in the burden of removing the current heads of state is the only way this makes sense. I feel that we could surgically remove these psychos if we had to. There, I'm sure, are plenty of people in Iran who would welcome this. I agree something needs to be done but about them having nuclear weapons, but I think we should all be on the same page before we throw millions headlong into another war.
Thank GOD for Israel. They have created peace in the middle east by being strong like the USA is. If it wasn't for them taking the blunt of the ignorant ragheads rage, terrorism would be mush worse that you see it today. They need to wipe out Iranian evil plans before they happen. Bomb them back to the stoneage; won't take much effort. Isreal would be doing them a favor, they would more than likely blow themselves up anyway but lets help them. The sooner the better. Once they are ash then watch the rest of those fools fall in line and you won't here a peep out of them for a long long time.
Israel has lost its last few wars. it couldn't even hold a small strip in southern Lebanon.
Wrong!!! Israel NEVER lost a war....that is why they are still in this world....get ur fact straight..
Right.
When southern Lebanon was getting pounded so bad
they screamed for a UN cease fire.
Coock UNO ... there are doing nothing .. there are one side ... team
Agree,,,, iran will never recover.. lets give Iranians moderate the chance to govern a potentially decent country
without radical mullahs and insane ahmadenijad.....
I have to agree. We as a country have wasted too much money in this last pro longed war. We should elimate the threat and return home. Simpily blowing the hell out of them will solve the problem for many years to come. If they really want a nuclear bomb i'm sure we can drop one or a few on them!
I hope they wait until Summertime...then they can kill each other up for all I care!
If this is true, why would you let the world know? Some of the political hacks and people in powerful goverment positions are so damn stupid!
uhm because such an attack by Israel will be harmful to the US. It wont do much damage to Iran and will cement the power of the mullahs there.,
BIG MISTAKE !! Israel has NEVER used any of their nuclear arsenal in any of the wars they had 1967, 1973, etc..
Never... also I am not Amercan but Chinese...and if you think for a minute that Iran will not use
1 nuclear missile....THINIK AGAIN!, if they can kill their own citizens in the streets of Tehran, what do
you expect ahmadenijad and his mullahs conduct themselves with agression with iran....logical or not?
Norm you are as Chinese as my rabbi. And North Korea hasn't used their nuclear weapons either. the point on Israels nuclear weapons is that that phenomena has and will continue to cause other neighboring nations to embark on programs to get nukes
Neighbouring nations will sign their suicide pact if they do!!
Israel does use its nuclear weapons; exactly the same way the US does. As a threat. It is in Iran's best interest to develop nuclear weapons for its own security and do eliminate the leverage Israel has in every conflict (not necessarily war). If I were in the Iranians shoes, I would do the same thing.
**** McBain05
Israel does use its nuclear weapons; exactly the same way the US does. As a threat. It is in Iran's best interest to develop nuclear weapons for its own security and do eliminate the leverage Israel has in every conflict (not necessarily war). If I were in the Iranians shoes, I would do the same thing.
Its been said that Israel has had nukes since late 60's.
Suddenly "NOW" Iran wants them ?
This bomb has nothing to do with Iranian safety.
Fail.
A threat is nothing to a strong minded nation except the idealism from the source of the threat which leaves an illusionary impression upon the object of feared.
why don't you attend to that other major war strike emergency that peaks in your israeli and other crime war strikes. your monarchists pervert order leagues that engages your various sleaze worshippers to rape on and porn and kill often children of all ages because in many too sick or overpowered to fight it all they are also considered children being raped gayster gang raped and starved out and robbed of their income rights big or small so you can arrest a couple once in awhile saying you had your eyes on them for some time. you fags in police pervert queenslut movers it is you directing it and engaging in it as well and harboring it until somehow for some reason of you breaking down from not wanting to arrest yourself group some main scapegoats get taken in and then sent for psychoanalysis protectionist policies to get plasticed ;up and hide and go at it again different other ways. that scott ass pervert is also one so is the school board so is the deasy crook so are the ma;yor and council and many government bosses and employees and child care agencies and hospitals who manouvered it different ways to be seen as other problems happening while deciding which child they want perversed on as well as those charity rackets.and banks etc. same with the 60 you arrested in canada for just porn violations? when it is brutal rape torture and there are over 360 violators some individuals and others groups of all kinds including police groups and politician party bosses in office and and their family gangs and business crime baggers to extortion me for so long and it looks like now maybe you can escape all those zillions and trillions of ziillions in frauded murder rape games and war supported rape crime murder devastation games. it is that sums of money and rights wealth because i created even more of it which your jackass filth outfits raced to create one big merger takeover acquistion corruption bagging under AMR whereby you used my important new tech brains to formulate that you could own that and own all the transportation industry with it eh nigger queer bosses and friends of sluts and niggers everywhere. what is AMR isn't that sort of the railroad system in conjunction with the airlines with so many ground transportation employees ??????? and what did you really secretly mean by that you filthy crooks Jesus worship man oh so relgiously prayerful to direct. jesus satanist pervert fag hooker club you imp perverfts. you dog b;u;;nch of slutwsw and sc;uymball cock in each other's mouth and ass horny loving membership to get rich criminally where you don['t even have right to bread and water in a torture daily cell block. because even that punishment is too lenient for your sc;ukmniggern gamers ;you c;unts sl;ut mouth btrau;in qquerrersa and dick faces. go stick a nuclear missile down each other's throats for your own good i warn you you sh;ut down your dog rape murder artist takeover dealer slut crime organizaitons because ;you are no country with any kind of legitimacy governemtn or powers.you keep admitting every time you make menial arrest advances that you are guilty more than before and partners and equaly a rapist murderer of kids of all ages and medical libeler and murderer and torturer and crippler boss and lacky greedy partner groups. you utter admission of all kinds of guilt thereby telling victims and the generally victimized public that you can rapester and murder and ab;use u;se ;them and their kids any way any time to any mounting bully tactic degree as you decide and wish to get your criminal dog way worshipped and let you own who you want and what you want. you can't talk like you have had your eyes on this suspect or that suspect for years or whatever and watched it all with you in control of surveillance and audio communications networks and then say the g;uy is arrested and you what got your man pervert selves.you are the chinese human rights violators more than the chinese with the chinese and the other types of big populace commies. you have no right to win that kind of major fight with minor battles in that way or in any way because it isn't you in the right and it isn't the others party gaming with you in the right either – why don't you get that through your evil minded plugged up ;shit hearing only ears. for once in history of the world.
then slut canada taxation garbage talk about how they want to raise taxes and tax sugar a lot and stupid ctv. retardos going on about that it will create a black market in sugar – what the fuck didn't you read or hear you sluts and queer suckers. what didn'[t you get why can't your reason with all your educations and experience.i don't need your input to clear up that situation actually you know cause you are the ones who caused it all and persist in keeping it that way – don't ride my wave in resolving problems to talk such stupid fat blubber diabetic pancreas cancer tongue cause that where your fat ass sits. it seems.aren't you the international rape pedo candy man porn station of major masterminding big money rights and identity rights heisting still sucking queer cock cunt of that sleaze ugly trash game ciccione.who you persist in using as a maddonna not ever was one but you persist. i don't want to write it up as what you want to push it on record as you fungula wap zion english queer club of jealous sluts filth. panetta the bitch head man running the shit too with them. you all want to go on and act and talk and be whatever like you are innocent angles of mercy on earth to save us all. actually what is left of us with me still not giving you your way mind you. what taxes on sugar you conracket perverts after you poisoned us with everything in so much of what was healthy for us to use. what taxes you creepy facos of brittany poc soldiering. what taxes on sugar fags. go smoke five cigars from cuba in your mouth and asses at the same time too why don't you. you sluts of nigger bosses of every kind don't sell anything stock market wise or otherwise belonging to me or connected to me you are all i told you executable in gas chambers and on the electric chair for pedo traffickingmurdering me since before i was born and all kinds of others to move myrights into your slut kkk filth hands pakky hookers india sluts all kinds you are all kinds of crook pervert bitches with bitch jhealous pervert crimianl abuser tramp men of all countries you go suck your own cunt asses and dicks and drown in your shit own toilets. prostitution is only still a complement word for what you are i can't find any kind of terms to describe your stink shit hole games to the moon .everyone walk out immediately except for emergency departments – – stop working walk out don't go to school and places like that either. go off your jobs /or just sit and collect and don't work.stand wait and don't work at work. devil's work and devils advocate support work is not allowed. so stand around sit around yak smoke have some coffee tea pop lunch do nothing do nothing much don't work at work minimal, emergency or no work and get paid as normal pay. we don't have to keep screwing ourselves up and start over again and over again with many dead or too upset mad to be tolerating anything anymore. i myself will not allow criminal leader support labor anywhere. don't work in real terms and force payment. cut bus runs in half , same with others. the expression that's what you get for service. i don't need that kind of service stuck to me so you can serve your own purposes and evil successes.i still haven't been able to get any money stolen or income lost and i don't know who you are feeding my money and property rights to as if they are me for sure but until you pay up no one can work much but gets paid in full and just emergency supplies need full employment services. you can't work to advance corruptive means so that it is rewarded and succeeds when those using and implementing those means to evil gains are supposed to be trialed and imprisoned and fully punished.stop feeding the criminal machinery that is criminally protected by criminals who think they police and army or whatever that is called that they do. sluts and their queer club keep pretending that i got some money settlement and more phoney shit to steal another way. i still have no damn payment etc. until that is justly handled nothing is going down anywhere right. tnymma-iii
Short thought! but you tried...
Almost forgot.....write a book more money for you!!! dont forget the INDEX...
It is illegal to use COPY AND PASTE ON HERE...
Could you elaborate?
Good point... this is only his FOREWORD....
this is only his FOREWORD....
Look like someone ran out of haloperidol. Try some punctuation and capitalization if you want anyone to read. Having a point helps too.
Actually made it through a few lines. I think its a bot, spamming away... It makes no sense at all; simply gibberish.
I am almost positive you do not speak english as your native language and I have got to say - that rant was quite impressive... you have got the dirtiest mouth in the history of the world! and for that I applaud you... as far as your opinions go - you should probably kick rocks you terrorist sympathizer!
Have you gone off your meds again?
I tried meth once too. The result was about the same ...
Sorry, i only read english.
Israel is nothing without the help of USA and other western countries. They don't have anything from themselves, no history, no resources, no economy...... Just look at the size of Israel on the map. but they always bluff because they know that USA (to be more accurate americans' taxes) is behind them. if US doesn't help them they couldn't live one more day. and the most pathetic thing about them is that they are allowed to do whatever they want just by one justification: SELF DEFENSE
Doesn't the US do things using the same justification/excuse?
bullshit, and u know it!!
and besides slamming israel for acting in "self defense" your point is what? that they shouldn't act in self defense? that they are too small to deserve survival? that they should not want to avoid annihilation as threatened by Iran? That the US shouldn't support them because they are jews? or are you simply a muslim apologist. You should really call yourself "piece" as in "piece of....."
israel is one of the most advanced countries in the world, and everyone knows its their land, that is the land of judea, their history in that land goes back to 3000 year ago! trust me, they do use tax money, but it for kicking the **** of muslim terorists!! they are doing what we should all do!!
Israel would CRUSH Iran in a non-nulcear war. All they do is fight and Iran hasn't fought since the 80s. They have the best equipment, training, and a proven successful strategy in defense against invaders and internal conflicts. And judging by other attitudes in the Middle East, I don't think Israel would be alone as Saudi Arabia would probably jump in just to clam the area down and help eliminate the Iranian threat.
I warned you the brown acid was bad.
This administration will have them wait to attack until the fall, then we'll get involved, and Obama will look strong even though he is stupid, and he'll use that to try to get elected. The plan is transparent.
I see you also got ahold of the bad acid.
See a doctor.
We need to get OUT of the middle east! Isreal should be on it's own. Bring our troops home now. I do not want me taxes going to anyone other than US citizens. Stop all foriegn aid now! These countries all have resources that they choose not to use, not my problem. Keep my taxes here.
Wah wah wah! I guess we should stop selling products to foreign countries or importing theirs either then? I don't think you understand how the world works these days.
"we"?
Your mind is just cluttered with Zionist propaganda. Let Israel burn to the ground. Your people hoard and disenfranchise many Americans. You're on here defending Israel like it benefits the world. Hell no.
We need to stop listening to morons like you.
*** Sawce
Your mind is just cluttered with Zionist propaganda. Let Israel burn to the ground. Your people hoard and disenfranchise many Americans. You're on here defending Israel like it benefits the world. Hell no.
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Are you six, or seven ?
You sound six to me.
NEVER AGAIN!. wrong if you think ISRAEL is going to let another 6 million Israel citizens die
from a despot , insane nation....NEVER AGAIN!!!!
Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor before saddam could blow up the entire world.
Israel bombed the Syrian nuclear reactor and today we all know that was a good move.
Israel will bomb the Iranian nuclear reactor and the whole world should thank them.
100% agreement. If it was not for ISRAEL the world would not be as it is today....a fuming , smoking piece
of cinder...THANK YOU ISRAEL! Please continue making the world safe from Persian agression and
world conquest by radical muslims. The Koran is always misinterpreted by radicals who turn
the inside of the Koran into Satan's verses.
Israel is the best defense for world interest in the middle east and obviously the only country in the area that can govern itself. Of course the anti Semitic hordes would love to ignore that and let the region be overrun with Arab and Persian savages.
Arabs are Semitic (like their Jewish cousins), so does "anti-Semitic" mean anti-Arabs?
"David", "Norm" and "Benyamin". The world woudl not have been a smoking cinder, and the Israeli raid on Iraq's program didn;t do much at all it accelerated the program If Iraq and of others. We now know It was Iran's attack on Iraq's nuclear facilities in 1980 that did the real damage. The Israeli attack in 81 hardly did anything except influence Israel's elections the next week which is why the attack took place.. The real causes for the end of Iraqs nuclear program were the costs of the Iran Iraq war, and the US destroying all of Iraqs facilities in the 91 gulf war.
first Iran air force destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear facility, Israely air force only bombard the wreckages of Osirak
We are entering a dangurous zone with all this RELIGIONAL paranoia,still nothing learned from the past.
Its a shame for all humans,ban all old religions and lets write our own unviversal new religion.
US and Israel's militaries should be considered a single entity so it's misleading to say Panetta 'suspects' or 'believes' when it comes to Israel's intentions – he knows and condones. Here we go again America, dragged headlong into war...
america doesn't get dragged, america leads. so your post is 1/2 right and 1/2 wrong. must be hard to speak out of both sides of your month at the same time.
You better belive the US should be concerned. An attack by Israel, using intelligence and targeting provided by the US, makes the US culpable. Iran may just pull the plug on caution and do quite a lot of damage to US assets in the region. The US has been putting on quite the show when it comes to a military confrontation with relatively defenseless adversaries, but a conflict with Iran will expose that facade for what it is, a sham. And the resulting economic damage will be the last straw for this weak nation held together by a thread.
Dude...get serious we could wipe out Iran in a day if we had any balls...which unfortunately we haven't had since World War two....we have been too concerned with civilian casualties in every war since then....
"we can wipe out Iran"........really ??
Like you did Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan ?
I assume the "weak nation" you are referring to is Iran. The US is not weak. Your muslim whine is not persuasive
Frank Finnegan – February 3, 2012 at 5:17 am
Just what we need: another antisemite blaming Jews/Israel for all the world's problems.
1." Let the Jews fight for themselves, for a change." - It may have escaped your notice that Israel has always fought alone, without a single US soldier on the ground.
2. "How many Jewish boys went off to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan? None " – Wrong. Plenty of Jewish servicemen are still fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan. Why point them out? Are you going to say that there were no Jewish victims on 9/11 either??
3." The average American tax payer is sick of giving Israel," – You mean like lending Israel money or giving loan-guarantees and being amply repaid through US arms purchases and hi-tech co-operation ? Unlike the billions squandered on Egypt, Jordan and the PA...
4. " Israel.. steals more Palestinian land and get the Muslims mad at us. " - Israel is settling on disputed Palestinian territory. Palestine as a state hasn't been created yet and it's obvious that Jordan and Israel already occupy the bulk of former Ottoman Palestine – hence the need for another mini-state in this region was a no-starter right from the beginning, and is only a ploy by the Arabs to delegitimise Israel ( a legally created UN State ).
Oh, and some Arabs are mad at us already, never mind Israel..
I wish more people thought like you. Sadly no matter how good a point you make when it comes to things regarding Israel or Jews you can never change the minds of the throngs of anti Semites out there. I've tried to point out to numerous friends how Israel is surrounded by enemies on all sides and things like this is a matter of self preservation.
Ugh and don't even try to point out that the Palestinians so many uninformed Americans want to cuddle are the same people who would blow up a bus full of them or come into their house and slaughter their families.
Steyn, you are full of it. As we blog Israel is expanding settlements and basically told the US to go screw itself with regard to the issue, as they have continually for the last couple of years. Your problem is that you expect to make statements that are patently false and get away with it because you believe that all americans are stupid and have no understanding of the history of the region.Wrong! That makes you a liar and so now that we know you are a liar, why should we take you seriously. Now you are doing a disservice to members of your community who deserve our support, that are good decent people worthy of our respect. The other point you make which is the same arguments that most jews of your ilk make, is that everyone who dissents with the israelis, is that we are automatically anti-semites. Wrong again. I have a great deal of respect for most of the jews I have met in my lifetime, not so with israeli politicians who hustle their own people into supporting their agenda at their expense. It is not the israeli people who are the proplem, it is the zionist thugs, hoodlum and gangsters who have no principles and will sacrifice their own people to achieve their goals and objectives. You commentary does a disservice to your cause and that is because you .....are a fraud!!!
ust a few weeks ago, the Israeli government that you so vociferously impugn, acted against their own people and protected palestinians from some right wing settlers.you and your "ilk", who cry " some of my best friends are jews" but dont hesitate to ignore the history of the region, the constant attacks on Israel by its neighbors with rockets and suicide/homicide bombs, and the 3 wars against israel by its neighbors to push them into the sea are "pathetic". without benefit of objective analysis you adopt and chant the arab/palestinian mantra "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us has caused our misery".
You know Jews so you're not an anti Semite? Isn't that the same thing racist in the south claim when they claim to not be racist against blacks?
Well put Michael.
We only got one planet, we need to take care of our friends and allies.
One thing i always laugh at is when somebody says...."See why the whole world hates America".
We get along fine with all of the civilised countries.
Israel has a firm policy of not allowing hostile neighbors to build nukes...look at the Iraqi and Syrian nuclear sites that were destroyed...the day that Israeli intelligence briefs the PM that Iran is producing highly enriched uranium the attack that is already planned and rehearsed will begin...Israel should not be considered a war-monger for this, in their eyes is a matter of national survival...they have a history of decisive action when threatened..perhaps that is why they have survived, a tiny nation surrounded by enemies who want to destroy them
NEVER AGAIN!. You are wrong if you think ISRAEL is going to let another 6 million Israel citizens die
from a despot , insane nation....NEVER AGAIN!!!!
So what does that mean? We let you schmucks do whatever you want while the world community picks up the tab for you collective neurosis? I don't think so. You play you pay. Look at the responses on these pages, most people are not with you and americans are sick and tired of your whinning. You want people to be responsive to what you perceive to be something that you are entitled to. Then do the right thing with the palestinians and stop treating them the way whites treated blacks in america and africa. It is apartheid pure and simple. You can pretend it is something else but that is what it is. That being so why in the world would you think that people would extend anything to you when you have treated another people this way. There is very little difference between the way the israelis treat the palestinians today than how the germans treated the jews during world war II. You would think that that collective memory would allow you people to have some heart, compassion, whatever you want to call it. But instead you have subjected these people to the same form of lunacy that your people have been subjected. You truly should be ashamed of yourselves for being able to rationalize your BS
Very sick human.
mariner I
So what does that mean? We let you schmucks do whatever you want while the world community picks up the tab for you collective neurosis? I don't think so. You play you pay. Look at the responses on these pages, most people are not with you and americans are sick and tired of your whinning. You want people to be responsive to what you perceive to be something that you are entitled to. Then do the right thing with the palestinians and stop treating them the way whites treated blacks in america and africa. It is apartheid pure and simple. You can pretend it is something else but that is what it is. That being so why in the world would you think that people would extend anything to you when you have treated another people this way. There is very little difference between the way the israelis treat the palestinians today than how the germans treated the jews during world war II. You would think that that collective memory would allow you people to have some heart, compassion, whatever you want to call it. But instead you have subjected these people to the same form of lunacy that your people have been subjected. You truly should be ashamed of yourselves for being able to rationalize your BS
Yes, and who will clean up the mess? US.
Who will pay for the expense for the war? US taxpayers.
HERES the facts... Do you think ISRAEL is going to stand by and eat and be merry. ..while iran the
despot nation builos nuclearbombs to attack ISRAEL... WELL think twice.....ISRAEL wont stand by,
wont stall, wont deter, wont get tired of countering iran's threat and the sooner the better.
ahmadeinjad statement ...we will wipe off the map israel at the un.......thanks ahmad....you made your bed,
you warn the world, and now ISRAEL and not the world will stop you very soon. ISRAEL IS NOT
TO BE TOYED WITH, not to be taken for granted. iran you made your bed now when ISRAEL attacks
you will have to lie in it... GET SOME BLANKETS BECAUSE it is going to get very COLD AROUND
your reactors......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCX62OpLggA&skipcontrinter=1
What's that? Zionism and Nazism are cut from the same cloth? Yeah, I guess the 1000 Year Reich is sort of like a teutonic zion, huh?
Yeah, i'm an atheist. You see atheists screaming for a nation state of their own? Nope.
Hey I know, why don't all the atheists in the world invade Oxford and declare Richard Dawkins as their leader? That would make sense, right? I mean, the English don't matter anyway... we could just set up checkpoints and stop english kids from going to school. Our right to do that would be self evident due to our lack of a creator.
next you will copy and paste the protocols of zion. i guess its true if someone wrote it. what a coo coo
Hey Norm, they sell plane tickets to Teheran if you want to go over there and fight Iran. Take your family over there while you are at it. Real easy to be a tough guy with other people's kids thousands of miles away.
norm you are pathetic. First israel will never anounce it , if they were to attack Iran just like they did in syris and iraq. 2nd they don't have the guts to do it, they are just a whole bunch of lunatic who are in charge in israel, but can only attack people who are diffenceless like the children and women in palestine, they don't even treat their own ethiopian jews the same. you treat them like a second class citizen.. 3rd. iran has been a home and savior of the jews for thousend of year and as recently as IIww where so many polish and jews escaped the russian death camp and arrived in iran via caspian sea and iranian took care of them. Iran is not a threat to the world. as a matter of fact Israel is the main source of threat not only in the middle east,but all around the world with all the lobbying they do and how they manipulate and infest countries with corruption. I want to take this example of how pathetic your kind is. Just a few days ago , one of your kind and editor of atlanta jewish times MATT ALDER wrote an article and in that he stated that If obama let Iran get nuclear bomb, mossad should assasin him. It didn't make the top news since your kind also controls the news. but this is the way you and your kind mentality is. whoever is in your way instead of colaboration , you have to go and assasin them. I am sure that jfk was a mossoad job as well since jfk apposed a nuclear israel.
Iran threatens Israel with annihilation and you want them to ignore this threat and allow Iran the means to accomplish this because ? because what exactly? because you are a muslim whiner? because you hate Israel? because you and your ilk hate jews? because you are a palestinian apologist and 5 times a day chant the arab mantra "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us has caused our misery" . when and hat would you do if your neighbor threatened to kill you and went out to buy a gun. would you take action?
**** diffenceless like the children and women in palestine
Like the child who wrote this post ?
You should get some blankets too because the world community will not provide you with the warmth that you seem to suggest that you will end up. Your world is going to be very cold too, maybe even colder, you cna count on it, you will not be allowed to get away with very much more down the road if the israelis make this move
You should get some blankets too because the world community will not provide you with the warmth that you seem to suggest that you will end up. Your world is going to be very cold too, maybe even colder, you can count on it, you will not be allowed to get away with very much more down the road if the israelis make this move
Screw Israel, Israel and its toy army are such scared pussies. If they werent scared they wouldve striked Iran by now, how many years have they been talking about striking Iran, and still nothing. Isreal needs to be taught a lesson for what they have been doing to the Palestinians for the past 63yrs. Iran will make Israel into hummus and bagels
ISRAEL should have settled iran's problem a long time ago, Sorry , they did 2000 years ago, then called
persia....now they will do it again....it is not funny how HISTORY always repeats itself....
Just where do you get your HISTORY from? When did Israel ever defeat Persia? The ancient Israelites were defeated by both the Assyrians and Babylonians, and the latter were defeated by the Persians under Cyrus the Great, who then allowed the Jews exiled in Babylon to return home. I think you are confusing the Jews with the Greeks, who did indeed defeat the Persian Empire a number of times.
The Israeli actions could only save lives. Iran is run by Islamist fanatics whose policies and actions destabilize the region.
Crazy people with atomic weapons are a threat to the world. What if they sold them to N. Korea or other enemies of the U.S.? Where would that lead over the next few decades?
100% agree Bull, why wait....waiting only makes iran build their final goal nukes AND we all know
they will use them....they are an insane nation which needs a lesson in etiquette and human tolerance.
2000 years ago , they in persia now iran were butchers and are still ...butchering their own people
ATTACK THEM NOW, BEFORE THEY USE 1 NUKE....
they have it all ready ... and you going to blow ....
Better U.S. foreign policy.
I guess that you conclude that 600 nuclear bombs in the hands of the israelis is no problem because they are more stable. wrong! the israelis are the biggest reason the middle east is unstable but you drones believe all of the BS the israelis promote because you know nothing of the history. israel will sell out america in a new york minute if they don't get there way. they will tell the UN to go screw themselves, they will tell the US to go screw themselves and they will tell the world to go screw themselves. If israel does strike iran the us policy should be your on your own for blowing things for everyone, most especially because they won't listen to us in terms of dealing with the issue diplomatically along with the rest of the world community and then they will drag us into it to support them because theoretically we are allies. we are only allies when they want something, if they don't get what they want, then they will basically screw us over, we owe them nothing most especially knowing they will do what they want regardless of our request to not go after iran. so now that you know that this is true, why would we support them after the fact? If they do this the world community should act in unison and basically let israel pick up the tab for their actions period for not working with the world community. it is time to stop israel's unilateral provocations and llet the world community vocally dissent by letting israel know they will be on their own in terms of whatever repercussions follow. enough of israel's BS
You are right, Israel will always act in their own best interests however I would definitely prefer Israel with nukes than Iran! Iran can't be allowed to have them.
@mariner I . 600 nukes huh? I am pretty sure you must have pulled that number out of you A**. Also you think that Israel is the reason for the instability of the middle east? How about all of the talk of no matter what there wont be an acceptance of a Jewish State? Or how about the words we often hear from talbian "Death to America". Get over yourself by blaming Israel you are simply putting all of the other countries issues onto one. The middle east instability is caused by mass muslim radicalism of religion and constant brain washing of generations.
so much idiotic lies. why does muslims kill christians and the middle east and africa? cause of israel? why muslims kill each other? cause of israel?
You sound like those nazis propaganda that blame anything on the jews. btw those who compare zionizim and nazisim don't know history nor anything about the subject, they are just plain stupid.
keep singing "woe is me, woe is me, Israel is the cause of all the muslim misery". your conclusions have no basis in fact but sure do fit the mantra and explain why the palestinians have remained in their camps for 3 generations instead of assimilating into the world population
Every time i read a post bashing Israel for having nukes,
the nuke count goes up.
100,200,300, now we are up to 600.
Wake me when its an even thousand.
The sooner Israel stops Iran with their nuke fever, the better for all of us... ISRAEL dont wait for iran
to produced 1000 nukes,,, attack them now for the safety and security of the WORLD.
iran, your time is limited...
Again, your comment just shows how ignorant americans are with regard to these issues. Israel has in the range of 600 nuclear bombs. you think they have that many because they are concerned that they will run out soon? even if iran can finally make 1, you have to have a delivery system to lauch it and they don't, which makes them a sitting duck with regard to the proposition. so what is the argument, they will be a threat to everybody else? how? 1 bomb is not going to take out the entire world. oh, so you mean yea.....but iran will use it? what do you think israel will do with its arsenal if push comes to shove? give the unemployed something to do by having them shine the bombs? you people are ridiculous. the real threat to world peace right now is israel because if they make the move there will be collateral damage to the rest of us. and that is why they should not be allowed to do it. but if they do it will absolutely let you know with complete certainty that they are full of it. because the act itself will clear up the issue about diplomacy versus rogue states doing whatever they want without the world community involvement. in other words the act itself will tell you that israel will do whatever it wants no matter what the world community wants. and that should alarm you. just because they go in after iran just using jets this time doesn't mean the next time they won't use nukes. what, israel wouldn't so something like that because what? they are more rational than that? wrong, if they do it, it will tell you just how irrational they are and you will have your confirmation.
WRONG! Israel has NEVER used any of their nuclear arsenal in any of the wars they had 1967, 1973, etc..
Never... also I am not Amercan but Chinese...and if you think for a minute that Iran will not use
1 nuclear missile....THINIK AGAIN!, if they can kill their own citizens in the streets of Tehran, what do
you expect ahmadenijad and his mullahs conduct themselves with agression with iran....logical or not?
Countries that DO NOT want Iran to have a nuclear weapon"
United States – Canada – New Zealand – Australia – Oman – Bahrain – Saudi Arabia –
Qutar – France – England – Germany – Netherlands – UAE – Belgium – Sweden – Norway –
Poland – Czeck Republic – Spain – Portugal – Japan – South Korea – Israel – Denmark.
Those are just the ones that have gone public.
Seems most of the civilised world thinks its a bad idea.
But hey, its always Israel's fault.
Iran can, and will develop nuclear weapons. And they will use them. Go gett'em boys. . . . .
Israel has already been striking Iran...bombing their scientists. So, is Israel stupid enough to usher in a new age just to fulfill a Mayan prophecy?
Israel is not stupid as you put it....the other way around.... Israel is smarter than you think, why
would Israel wait for Iran to shoot a nuclear bomb...why wait do it now...for the better...
Smart is not always a panacea...
You just put Israel and mayan prophecy together ?
Do you know how STUPID that sounds?
Guess not.
IIraq had WMD, correct? or so the US claimed, NOT!! Were the ever found? NOT!! Reason to attack? NOT!!
IIran has WMD, or soon will do? or so the US and Israel claim. Sounds familiar? YES. Reason to attack? NOT!!
IIran has only invaded 1 country, at the request of the US. Reason to attack Iran? NOT!!
IIsrael invades, murders, attacks, bombs, assassinates, imprisons and persecutes other countries and its civilians on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. Reason to attack Iran? NOT!!
US invades, murders, attacks, bombs, assassinates, imprisons and persecutes other countries and its civilians on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. Reason to attack Iran? NOT!
Who are the warmongers here? Israel? YES, US? YES or Iran? NOT!!. Reason to attack Iran? NOT!!
Who are the bullies here? Israel? Yes, US? Yes or Iran? NOT!! Reason to attack Iran? NOT!!
The world has enough wars without Israel starting World War III.
The lack of common sense and reality here is unbelievable,
Funny story there.... Iraq DID have WMDs, but that wasn't reported because those were the WMDs that came from the U.S.
ir4qs had wmd , before the usa came in, they sent them to their allies..... who still have them....
That one statement confirms that you are completely clueless.
The only peeople who believe that Iraq had WMD are republicans
who just cannot believe that thier beloved leaders and heroes would lie to them.
By the way, it wasnt too hard to change the definition of WMD, so they could
cover thier butts.
I couldn't agree with you more but the unfortunate reality is that we are going to pick up the tab for other people's ignorance and history proves it out. In the final analysis if israel makes unilateral moves there will be collateral damage. I hope they don't but if they do they sould pay a price and i don't mean reprimanded, we should cut them loose and throw them under the bus once and for all, if israel will not do the right thing with regard to the palestinians and the rest of the world community, screw them, this should have been settled 20 years ago, 60 years and counting they are still getting away with their BS
Israel did the "right thing" with the palestinians that did not clear out in 1948 to give the arab armies a clear path and granted citizenship to those who stayed. just last month they did the right thing and protected arab interests from some Israeli right wing settlers. I assume your right thing is for Israel not to defend themselves from rockets, bombs, wars started by arabs in 1967 and 1973 and just allow themselves to be slaughtered. Your "right thing" is absurd
NO YOU ARE WRONG IF ISRAEL DOES NOT STOP IRAN THEN YOU WILL HAVE WW3!!!!!!!!!!
Iran threatening Israel with annihilation, Iran funding, training and arming terrorists to kill americans in Iraq and Afghanistan is not the war mongerer, it is Israel that is the war mongerer. Right. I love the part of the muslim mantra that says"woe is me, woe is me, we are our own worst enemy"
Could, would, might, may.......bah.
Why wait till spring ? why not now or last year ? and why announce it to the world (and iran) ?
just the usual politically-bankrupt mumbo jumbo.
Peace is better than war, since war is hell. I would pressure UN to declare a non-nuclear zone in a radius around Israel to the border of the closest nuclear power already in existence. This needs to be done now, to protect Israel in future decades. As for any attack on Iran, I would never do it as long as all the ground-to-air missiles on the coast of Iran are idendtified and eliminated. But again, I do not see tghat the UN has done enough to help Israel! That is where I would start.
Ask the U.N. to declare a "Non-nuclear zone"? Do you really think that Iran would consider that for one moment?
Iran is part of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, currently has no known nuclear weapons and has allowed inspectors in the past. Isreal refused to join the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, has nuclear weapons but wont declare them and will not allow inspectors to review them. Seems Israel will not consider that.
Israel also continues to ignore UN resolution regarding palestine and has for years. let us not forget the israelis where the first terrorist in the region. this is a fact, i could go up and down a very long list but all you have to do is google info about the stern gang, the irgun and a host of other israeli terrorist organizations that they have used over the course of time to blow people out of the water. the reality is they have sugar coated all of this with the passage of time but the israelis were the first architects of terrorism in the region but of course you would have to have some understanding of the history of the region to know this. and of course based on the responses of most of the people here it is clear that the collective brain activity of most commenters, you couldn't fuel a pencil sharpener with the juice generated by these yo yo ssss.
**** mariner I
Israel also continues to ignore UN resolution regarding palestine and has for years
I would ignore them too.
You have 22 Islamic nations throwing everything in the book at Israel,
they even complain when Israel defends herself.
Most civilised countries see through the BS.
Just what our economy needs right now; another unjustified war, or two, stretching decades. Maybe it will trigger a revolution here, at home, against the 1%? Let the Jews fight for themselves, for a change. How many Jewish boys went off to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan? None; they were all off fighting for spots in colleges and board rooms. What a disgrace. Finally, let mayor Bloomberg (worth over 16 billion!) send all his billions over to Israel to steal more Palestinian land and get the Muslims mad at us. The average American tax payer is sick of giving Israel, already a rich country, any money.
^^^True story. For people that claim to be god's chosen, these Zionists don't have much faith for all their weapons and violence instead of spirituality.... unless their spirituality is wrapped up in weapons and violence.... Psalms 137:9, anyone?
Every Israeli citizen has to serve in the military for Israels defence.
Its mandatory.
Interesting how whenever there is a disaster in another country,
its always the Israelis who show up first to help.
The best way for Israel to pull this off would be to launch a strike unilaterally, while in the midst of a military exercise with the U.S. The U.S. would have few options other than to support Israel, because it would be perceived by everyone else as a bilateral action anyway. Basically Israel would be forcing the U.S's hand into a war. Certainly their would be costs for Israel to pay afterwards, however, their threat with Iran would be a done deal!
The price of oil will skyrocket! This is one dumb plan. Let the Jews fight themselves for a change. No more American blood spilled on behalf of the land stealers!
Roger that !
I am so sick and tired of having to "pay" for what Hitler did so many years ago. Of course we should never forget, but why do we the people of the US have to keep getting involved with those war monger Jews!
No American has ever died fighting for Israel, moron.
Its not Israel threatening to cut off the straights of hormuz.
Whatever reason you have for hating jews,
you could at least stop posting lies.
And of course if this happens we'll get dragged into it because we always blindly support Israel, no matter who they bully or attack. Its funny how many people blame Obama for this, but the truth is its become the American way to blindly support Israel. I think most presidents would, Democrat or Republican. Maybe Ron Paul wouldn't, but if he got in he would most likely collapse our economy so it wouldn't matter much. I hope this doesn't happen, though. If we have to go to war with Iran, I'd rather it be because we chose to than getting stuck backing Israel's war.
Please name one nation Israel has attacked ?
Go ahead, i will wait.
Another lying Arab, no doubt.
if u have balls then do it
The Jews were the only ones that wanted the tora. The land of ISRAEL was given to the Jewish race. LOOK at the world today and see what the JEWISH race has given to civilization. The cleverest people in the world. The Jewish people would never kill their own families. JEWS like to eat but not like to kill other people. The Arabs will kill their own mother if they think she has ruined their so called family honour. IN THE KORAN they think if they kill jews they go straight to heaven with 72 virgins waiting for them. So all you jew haters dont vacinated your children against most diseases. Because all the best doctore,lawyers are JEWISH. Dont use facebook if you hate jews. Dont use chat if you hate JEWS. All COUNTRIES WILL BE DESTROY BY IRAN AND ONLY JERUSALEM WILL STAND. it is all written thousands of years ago. All PEOPLE AND COUNTRIES THAT GO AGANIST ISRAEL WILL BE DESTROYED BYE G-D.
Cool Story Bro!
Another Funny story from jewish boy XD
True Felicia, Israel shall prevail against it's enemies whether they be Iranians , Russians, Taliban, Jihadists, Palestinians or Syrians. Infact One day Russia shall join the Arabs against Israel and they will be defeated. We Christians are watching closely the events in the Middle East coz they (the events) have a spiritual siginificance to us. Any way to you our Jewish friends, I say, 'Fear not' for The God of Hebrews who drowned the Egyptians in the Red Sea in the ancient days is still God today . All your (Israel) foes are His (God Almighty's) foes whether nuclear powered or whatever and This Great God knows no defeat Amen!!!.
You people are scary.
That was a very false statement... Muslims do not believe in killing anybody and it is not in Quran... In fact what is stated in Quran is killing is a sin and if you kill someone than that is equal to killing all humanity.
You are either mislead or !!!
Saeed you people would stone your cat if it somehow dishonoured the patriarch of your family. Go get on your carpet and suck off Mohammed.
IIf Israel attacks Iran than it will become legal for every country in the world to make nukes for self defense.
Everyone look on your map.
What military destabilized country did Israel potentially have to cross to get to Iran.
HINT!!! A country w/o W.M.D.s!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never heard of air strikes?
Israel has a deal to use Saudi air bases.
Go For It !
Israel does not want to see Obama another term.
Yes they do.......didnt U watch Obamamama when trying get elected........JEWS ARE SANKROSINK ! Actual quote. Say it 3 times real fast.........JEWS ARE SANKROSINK ! Its the FEAR FACTOR.......and U cant change to new president during middle of war. Got to have really good one by election time.......timing is critical. JEWS ARE SANKROSINK !
This is something aother of Obama's pawns opening there mouth again. Look at all the people who wants to put this dumbass back in office. Just go ahead and push the red button if you have the balls. But alas he don't he will blame it on congress and go out and tell us it's not his fault he don't have big balls..;-)
You truly believe Panetta's statement was a slip of the tongue? Sad.
Vote Ron Paul and this would NOT even be problem. Dont U sheep get it by now?
You POS this American President was elected by the MAJORITY of American voters and Will be voted Again by the MAJORITY if POS like you dont like this country get the hell out and go back to your jew land or china or russia where you come from
War is not the answer. Helping people against the dictator government is the answer.
How many of the 9/11 bombers were from Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan? Would you consider Saudi Arabia a "Dictator" government?
I STAND BEHIND ISRAEL AND THE GOD OF JACOB ISAAC AND ABRAHAM
so move there ......
Oh wow! I thought the god himself was strong enough to support himself! I didn't know jewish people have to help their god to raid on a country. btw talking of god...what kind of god like to kill those Palestinian, and Lebanese and now a new war??!
God bless you, you are right Man of God.
I STAND in front of Israel to protect her no matter what....and I AM CANADIAN,,, NOT JEWISH...
Israel will live forever....iran will disappear and all despots nation like Syria...
Then get Canada to pay for it not the US, you haven't heard? We're broke.
@ The Rock – This is a story about a possible strike, not some place you come to pick up other men. You have CNN confused with Facebook again!
More preemptive war based on the protection of Israel. If everyone already forgot the onerous to go into Iraq was the accusation by the US that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and Israel was in great danger/Iraq would destabilize the region. How terribly ironic in hindsight.
You will notice the only two types of people in support of this are the un/misinformed and the Christian/Jewish dogmatic delusionals.
Ful all U fucin jewboys. Wee vill keel U
Please...
Why do all Arab terrorists cover there faces ???
Because they are camel f*cking woosies ... Right ???
Go kill yourself, you can have my 100 Virgins. OK ???
BTW: Got U-239 ???
I heard of this propaganda of Iran-USA- and Israel in last 10 years almost everyday ... I am sick and tired of it . I thinks Israel is a spoiled in middle east country by USA. this is simple fact .If Israel wanted to be part of ME, they have to open the door on IAEA , this is simple as 1,2,3 . They cant have more than 200 nuke weapons and tell other nation you are not allowed to have one. why politician leader in USA doesn't understand this simple fact. Iran is isolated from north and south and east and west by Russia , Pakistan,India , USA in Persian golf and Israel with nuke weapons. How do you fell if your house is located in the area that all of your Neighborhood kept the gun in their house and all pointed to your house? I will be nervous and i wont let my kids to walk out the yard and street to play with my neighborhoods kids at all.
I think IAEA must enforce the Israel to get rid of their nuke and then ME will be safe and no American solder lose their bloods . USA please remember no war for Israel in Iran .If Israel attack Iran either Iran pay the consequence of thinking having nuke weapon or Israel pay the consequences of being a dictator on middle east .
I'm confused... and have been for quite sometime. Here's the question: Why is Israel allowed to NOT admit it has no nukes (for military use) and allowed to not have International inspectors or inspections, when EVERYBODY knows they do? The world pretends this is not happening. But we are ready to go to yet another war with Iran who admitted the have some sort of nuclear program? Please, I'm serious, can someone help me make sense of this?
That was poorly written. Sorry. In a nutshell, why are we allowing the Israelis to hold us (the U.S. of A.) hostage by a threat of war (which we will have to cleanup) when they don't adhere to ANY International Nuclear laws. They don't admit they have weapons (which they do) and don't allow Inspectors from governing bodies to inspect them. THEN they want their neighbors to be subjected to rules THEY don't follow. Is this really happening??
eat it big boy
I really am sorry. My writing is bad tonight, I guess because I had too much to drink. Sorry.
I do hate those jew boys though.
Dear mike , you are making a valid question , the world turn a blind eye on Israel because it's an invented country by the world power that has major control over politics and economy. You probably already know the answer to your question 😉 but you are just trying to educate the public, unfortunately the majority here are sheepish just follow mainstream "controlled" media , they just tell them things selectively with a biased view. For example , do you know that majority of the American don't know about WTC7
83 conflicts in the world today..all involve muslims...killing christians across africa..killing babies and old ladies across the world..trying to kill Israelies daily..killing their own people across the middle east...terroist attacks...its plain to see who the problem is...islam is a stain on humanity..
AIPAC, lobbyists, money, and Jewish lawmakers.
A seldom known fact, and often misquoted, Irans president who un actuality has no power never threatened to wipe Israel off the map with force instead rhetorically said "Israel should be Palestine, Israel shouldn't even be on a map". This alone is used as the evidence that Iran would instantly use nukes on Israel and therefore warrants a preemptive strike, the morons eat it up and support it while Israel sits back and wonders if they really can get the US to do their bidding again! Obama is resisting and we can see the Jewish backlash in their posturing daring to do so. We Re a nation of fear and religion, manipulated rather effortlessly and without much critical thinking by the populace. Secuization is the key to enlightenment.
Apparently Ahmadinejad said in Farsi "the occupying regime (in Israel) would vanish from the pages of time." (bearing in mind the word "map" doesn't exist in Farsi). Unfortunately (or possibly deliberatedly?) The New York Times reported this as a call for the destruction of the State of Israel when the phrase was translated as "wiped off the map".
It seems strange that the world wanted the Mubarak regime, or the Gaddafi regine,(and now the Assad regime in Syria) to stand down, but that wasn't taken as wiping those countries off the map! One suspects the presence of some good propagandaists at work out there against Iran!
One way or the other, there will be a conflict in the Middle East either via Isreal or the U.S. They (the government who bow to the rich) have to keep the price of oil up some how.
If I were Iran, I would consider ANY attack on my sovereign nation as an act of war and I would act commensurately.
Agreed. Of course they should as any country would. Hell, we did!. And Israel should not expect help from anyone, INCLUDING THE U.S., if they decide to take any aggressive action.
im so sick of this stupid war between isreal and iran/syria/whoever. is that all u people do is fight? u will drag the whole world into your petty conflict over a piece of shit pile of rocks and sand. America needs to stay out of isreals bullshit, and get our country back on its feet. let them protect themselves! they got the nukes to annihilate iran in one blow. they dont need us, we are just insurance.
Who the fuck is messing with me? U will regret it,.
"palestinian" common family names:
Just like "Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti" born in "tikrit iraq"
The family names(Nisbah نسبة) of Arabs who now occupy judea reveal their country of origin:
"Masri" OR "al-masri" =from Egypt ,Hamas member of Parliament in gaza, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyption" in arabic !).
"Khamis"= from Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis"
"al-ubayyidi" or "al-Obeidi"= from sudan "al-ubayyid"
"al-Faruqi"= Mosul iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco,a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al-Lubnani" =the lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan ("Maghreb" – meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco) ,"Dalal Mughrabi"
"al-Djazair"=the Algerian
"al-Qurashi"=saudi arabia "clan of Quraish"
"al-azd" =yemen "Azd tribe"
"al-Yamani"= the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"Al-Sidawi" = from "Sidon" lebanon
"Al-fayyumi" = from "Faiyum" egypt
"al-Hijazi" or "Hijazi" = present-day saudi arabia "Ahlam Higazi, a "Palestinian" artist from Hebron"
"al-Hindi" =the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"al-Tamimi" or "Tamimi" = from the tribe or clan of Banu-Tamim "Azzam Tamimi"
"Hamati" = from syria ( HAMA city)
"Omayya" = from saudi arabia "Banu Omayya tribe" "Omayya Joha" "palestinian artist" "
"Othman" = turkey
"murad" =yemen "murad tribe"
"Alawi" = from syria (minority religious group in syria)
"Iraqi" =from Iraq.
"halabi" =from aleppo syria
"Dajani"= from saudi arabia
"Mattar" = from YEMEN (the village of BANI Mattar)
"al-baghdadi"= from bagdad iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" =Houran Syria.
"Zubeidi"= from iraq "Zubeidi tribe" "Zakaria Zubeidi"
"al-Husayni" =saudi arabia.
"Saudi" =Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"=egypt.
"Bardawil" ="salah bardawil" HAMAS legislator in gaza,egypt "bardawil lake" area
"nashashibi"= syria.
"Bushnak" =bosnia
"zoabi"= from iraq "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" =turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" =In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." =Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta "
"Nuba, Hebron" =founded by the "nuba people"
Even "Arafat", the most famous fakestinian and leader of the terrorist grup the P.L.O, is not native to judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" and claimed he was born in jerusalem ! BUT spoke
Arabic with Egyptian dialect. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956 !
Arafat's full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini.
"Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?
-Professor Azmi Bishara(Arabic: عزمي بشارة)– a "palestinian arab"
"There is no "palestinian nation" !
when were there any Palestinians??? LOL
until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of "Greater Syria" another resent invention.
there is only an arab nation !
the word "palestine" its self is a colonial invention used by the romans in order to erase the jewish identity of judea and israel.
even the "Palestinian National Charter" recognizes all the jews living in the region prior to the 1948 war as "palestinians" !
its an intellectual fad, divorced from the concerns of uneducated people"
-Zuheir Mohsen (Arabic: زهير محسن)- top p.l.o member responsible for damur massacre.
"The "Palestinian people" does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a "Palestinian people".."
-Walid Shoebat (Arabic: وليد شويبات)-
"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village "Beit Sahur " in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families..."
for more information please google "Old Yishuv
Whats the point of all that? If you are trying to say there are no Palestinians then look at this http://cojs.org/cojswiki/The_Whittling_Down_of_Palestine
You are right, but Jews are NOT native either to this land.
And it is at bible Jeriho city story......and well known what happened with Jeriho inhabitants.
But, they was not natives either and came to area from outside.
And jews come from outside of canaan.
It is well known.....jews not so distant roots are at Africa (just like almost anyone roots at this planet too).
Generally, all people on planet are not natives to lands they live at.
SO WHAT?
There may be one or 2 person in Palestine who have Egyptian names but 95% of Jewish population of Israel is with European names.
You call Arafat a fake Palestinian because he spoke Arabic with an Egyptian dialect. So what are you implying? Here in Britain we have Sikhs, Indians and Pakistanis who speak English with a Scottish accent! Similar people in Birmingham speak English with a Brummie accent. I even knew a couple in Khartoum whose son spoke with a strong American accent though she was 'BBC' english and his father had a scottish accent. The boy copied the accents of his class mates (at an American International school).
Too long, didn't read. Hey, you like peanut butter and mayo sammiches?
Every single bit of that is garbage. I'm a nordic looking atheist with a jewish name. Are you implying that Israel itself is NOT racist? Last time I heard, Jewish ATHEISTS could become Isreali citizens. Now don't you think that's strange? That someone who is a nonbeliever could be a zionist citizen?
NEXT.
all the COOKOOS are not in an asylum....
Know that the Lord is coming and that ye will rue the day you denied his presence in your life.
You people have been saying that for 2,000 years. Jesus himself said that there were apostles present with him that would not die until he came again in power.
Keep on waiting, sucker. The rest of us will do just fine here in the real world.
You need to re-read the bible, specifically the end of the gospels of the new testiment,its explained that some deciples thought the same thing that some or someone would not die untill his second comming, but it was explained that this was not the case but that Jesus could keep someone alive untill the second comming.
Jesus will be back as soon as he can play the piano again.
I just wanted to apologize to all you guys tonight. I was talking wth my sponsor Carl, man is he hung, and he said that I should not be so rude. So I will tone it down. I sort of forgot to take my meds, perhaps that is why I flew off the handle when I heard that Ayrab talking. Anyways, I'm sorry and if you're ever in Moscow (Idaho) look me up. There is a men's club there we could "meet" at.
Easy Solution Nuke Jerusalem and Mecca The Dome of the rock and Wailing wall destroyed in one hit the area contaminated for 250,000 years. No more wars over the holy land or give it to the UN and then no one race of country owns it. 90% or the arguments are gone or thirdly. take out the whole middle east no one left to war
May be nuke Rome too.
may i nuke the cunt that shit you out ....( your mother)
When i was a kid, to protect myself, I would get mad and fight back. As I got older, and consequences kicked in, I choose my words of aggression or warning first. After further consequences, it turned to just words. Then one day I realized my words instilled such fear that I would become attacked immediately.Do you see where this is all going people? The sooner you grow up and stop fighting the sooner you can enjoy your lives.Peace
Funny sh't, ,, 40 people talking, but 22 IP adresses, looks like alott of people talking to their self, and some IP's ARE replying to their own comments, now this is very funny, lmfao
this is what you get on blogs like this., for the record, I hope peace to all.
most comments on here are HB Gary style sockpuppets. These comment sections are more effective tools of propaganda than the article itself.
Yeah, I don't think Israel is worth our time or money. If they wanted to treat the Palestinians better, that would be great and my opinion would definitely change. Too bad they won't admit that Jews lived all throughout the Middle East in peace before Isreal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCX62OpLggA&skipcontrinter=1
Isreal and Iran are like a trailer park marriage. Both of them are disgusting and all they do is fight.
i am from iran...
ISRAEL??????????
is it country???? i can`t find it in maps...
That's because the government of Iran does not allow you to see the maps that the rest of the word is using.
dear...
i don`t know where r u from...
israel is liveing on blood...
and the goverment of israel have one think....
it is... war war war... attack attack attack...
i think they liveing in jungle...
open your EYES... my frined...
are you remember iran start a war in history...?
u can know it...
Taha .. nice try .... I am sure in Israel they do teach you where Iran is .... now if you can't find your own country I can't help you 🙂
Well, your wonderful pig of a president seems to know where it is. Meanwhile, I don't see Palestine on the map, either....and many on here are truly thankful for that. If Allah could come down and see your hatred up close, I'm sure He would be disgraced. No real god would ever promote/endorse hatred.
If you take a look at a map before WW2 you will see Palestine
In fact, here is a map from a jewish site that has backs up my point. http://cojs.org/cojswiki/The_Whittling_Down_of_Palestine
Obama rocks..the idea of getting away from oil - the only smart choice... to many welathy invested in OIL for this country to leave it alone..America needs to walk away from OIL ..Problem solved..stop paying them, no money to buy nukes..move the world off oil..they wont be able to survive..
SHAME ON ISRAEL FOR WANTING TO START A USELESS FIGHT THEY CANT WIN..THEY CANT WIN THIS FIGHT.EVEN WITH OUR HELP..PROMOTING PEACE IS THE ONLY WAY....LET THEM FIGHT WITH OUT US..No body wants World War Three and if America gets involved..that is where it is headed..
If you can't see Israel in the map then you are a blind, ignorant, and lost individual who doesn't understand that peace and love is far greater than conflict or war.
You have no idea what a nuclear exchange can do to any country and its population. Wake up and live or eternally regret it.
You can't find Israel on the map?
Just buy another one than your Ayatollah World View Map
F**k israel, if they want to start a fight let them. We better not bail them out or waste a single ounce of blood for them.
Can I ask why you are angry with Israel?
Israel causes its own problems and we end up having to spend money to bail them out. Read up on the Yom Kippur war. They have been around since the late 40s and have engaged in more wars than some nations have in 400 years of existence. Its useless to be allies with them. We would be better off making allies with Saudi Arabia or Egypt if we wanted help in that region.
if you want to know it...
please search in internet about gaza ...
1800 men is kiled in gaza by israel troops......you can see chidren and women and old mens.. in them
they are have not any gun...
they are not ARMY...
they have one SIN...
you know??? LIVE
Because Israel governments are animals ................
Because Israel governments are animals ................
hamas ie the culprit and not Israel. hamas does not want a peace treaty. They are not interested in a 2-State solution. So, who suffers from all this? The palis living in Gaza are the ones with no future for them nor for their kids because of hamas and the rest of the terror networks – You could even say that your allah is trying to tell you the same thing for a long time now (period)
How long has Hamas been around? Longer than "israel"? No, it was made as a response to the aggressions by europeans. The people who are called Palestinians are like the Native Americans here only they have united. As an American, I understand both sides. You cannot push people off the land they have lived on for generations and not expect them to fight back. If "israel" wants peace then they should stop building and return some land, if they dont want peace then they should just keep doing what they are doing. Its pretty simple. The arabs were there, then they were forced off their land so some europeans could live there and make a country, only now they are united and putting up a fight along with everyone else who shares their ethnicity or phenotype. Gotta give them credit. There are far more of them around than Cherokee or Seminoles
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TAHA
if you want to know it...
please search in internet about gaza ...
1800 men is kiled in gaza by israel troops......you can see chidren and women and old mens.. in them
they are have not any gun...
they are not ARMY...
they have one SIN...
you know??? LIVE
LOL. If that was the case, Israel wouldn't ever threaten Iran or slightly think about attacking them. United States will be dragged into the war, as usual, by Israel. Americans will suffer thousands of casualties, lose billions of US taxpayers' money, lose credibility all over the world, and US economy will go further down. In the previous wars Americans got involved because of Israeli wars only harmed the USA, Israel just sat and watched, in fact they got sympathy and billions of dollars aid on top. It's a one way relationship in which Americans lose and Jews win at all times. Jews are playing the game carefully and using Americans as their puppets, with Israel as an "ally" who needs enemies!?
**** United States will be dragged into the war, as usual, by Israel. Americans will suffer thousands of casualties,
Hey Maria, name one war that America has faught for Israel ?
When you dont tell the truth, its called a LIE.
@Johny. It is true that Israel had more wars than NY State in 400 years. Israel too wishes that its neighbors attacked it as often as Canada attacked NY State. Remember the Indian saying. You have to walk in the man's moccasins to understand.
You could try to make sense...I mean, its the least you can do. No one mentioned anything about NY.
Israel does not want any war. Israel wants to live with its neighbours in peace. Why is it so difficult to understand that?
Believe what things like this ? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hisham-wyne/a-mossad-killing-in-dubai_b_466247.html
....Or this .......http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10195838
I agree. I have no problems with Israel, but if they take any aggressive action towards another country we had better not help in any way. If they start a war, let them handle the fallout all by themselves. We don't need to get involved – again.
Can wait til this war happens ill be watching it with popcorn at my side . Lunatics fighting more lunatics . All your religious hogwash needs to stop !!!
If the war remains between Israel and Iran, it would be great, let them fight without any external interventions. World shouldn't be dragged into WW3 because of Jewish violence. They attack their neighbours all the time, Iran never attacks anyone, yet they try to turn the table around and play the victims. Americans suffered to the extreme and gained far too many enemies due to Israel using them, there should be no more US support to Israeli violence. Without Israel as an "ally", US would be doing way better now with its economy in shape, its credibility in place, and in peace. Enough with Israeli games.
@Maria. What would you do if your kid was threatened by a kid 75x his size. Israel si 20,000 km sq. Iran is 1500,000 km sq.
Jewish violence ? Did you hear of a Jwish suicide bomber, killing innocent bystander/? No, only the " peaceful muslims "
do this... Of course there are 72 virgins waiting for those bomber martyrs and by the way for the females suicide bombers what will the get 72...male virgin too?
*** They attack their neighbours all the time, Iran never attacks anyone, yet they try to turn the table around and play the victims........
You are one sad little beoch.
Israel has never attacked another country.
Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Lebanon have attacked Israel repeatedly.
Iran supplies weapons to Hezbollah and Hamas to attack Israel.
You are either stupid, or you are lying.
I think both.
Well said.
The only purpose Israel was created was so that Middle East could be destabilized and the oil easily stolen.
It is one of the most virulent, aggressive nations on Earth.
"One of the most virulent, aggressive nations on Earth." Israel? you have got to be kidding me right? do you know middle eastern history???
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PaulNYC
Well said.
The only purpose Israel was created was so that Middle East could be destabilized and the oil easily stolen.
It is one of the most virulent, aggressive nations on Earth.
Next up. Colin Powell to tell us about Iran's nuclear capability and it ties with al-Qaeda.
Damn you beat me to it 🙂
“Iran is our close neighbor, just south of the Caucasus. Should anything happen to Iran, should Iran get drawn into any political or military hardships, this will be a direct threat to our national security,” -Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s deputy prime minister and former envoy to NATO.
In other words, if the insane Israelis attempt an illegal attack on Iran, they might possibly just get their assess handed to them. Frankly, I hope any nation or nations starting a war by illegally attacking another sovereign nation gets turned to glass. Great deterrent against starting war.
I'm sure Russia made similar noises before Iran was invaded by Iraq. Big whoop.
I agree.
The other question is – why would Iran need to develop such weapons in the first place ??
Countries need to deescalate.
Simple .... Israel has a few ... Pakistan .... India ... Russia .... you name it .
So everybody BUT Iran .. even the nut jobs in NK can have them ... tho is not about nukes ... this is about OIL ... stay tuned boys ... $20 per gallon gas is on its way ... I mean I forgot to mention that Uncle Sam will make tons ,,..
Well we should it and lead by wxample
Do you even know what is going on? We are in the 21st century. Nuclear war must not be an option. Otherwise, the whole world will suffer for a very looooong time. Peace IS the answer if you are smart.
This is not Pakistan. Get them Israel because Obama is too soft
Peace after we nuke the trash into ash. Time to take the garbage out.
**** I hope any nation or nations starting a war by illegally attacking another sovereign nation gets turned to glass. Great deterrent against starting war.
So, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq should all be glass,
after all they attacked Israel, right ?
And who should be put in charge of carrying this out ?
You are another anti Israel clueless moron.
The only countries I ever read about these days threatening to attack and cause destruction and loss of life are the US and Israel.
Israel is peeeceful!
Shawn, you must not read a lot because Iran's leadership threatens the mass destruction of Israel on a regular basis.
@H ...
Please provide us with some links ... PROOF that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map .... Else just stay as you are .. a useful idiot!
@Joe,
You need to pay attention. Use your resources you fool
I think you need to smart up on some recent events Shawn. Get a clue.
The answers are yes and yes. Israel doesn't care about when the decision to go forward with production occurs. Why should they? Lunatics, sworn to the death of their nation are threatening to harvest the ultimate death weapon. They are merely following the Chinese proverb: It is best to kill the baby tiger in his crib, lest he grows up to consume you. The US would do well to heed the same wisdom and exterminate the vermin in control of Iran before the wreak havoc upon the free world.
The Israelis are lunatics. So are the war mongering Americans. Kill yourselves.
Iran has not started a war outside of their borders in my life time. (82 years) To attack them would cause a world wide disaster and possibly world war 3. We have no idea what they would do if attack. They have many alternatives that do not involve the straights of hormuze (?) It has been said that the best of plans fail after the first shot is fired!
Peace to my Christian, Muslim , Jew brothers. Lets get along. Chirst , forgive me if I have sinned. You know whats in my heart. God bless.
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Maybe i'm just not cluing in on something obvious, but on planet Earth, isn't it illegal for one country to just attack another country? Wouldn't that result in UN intervention?
It is well within the power of the US to prevent such an attack. All the US has to do is tell Israel that if they attack, there will be no more financial aid from the US. We give them about 3 billion a year in direct military aid.
I would like to see the US, um, I mean Israel, bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities. You don't give nuclear weapons to that morally and religiously inept country.
ah ... here we go ... you define proper behavior for others ... enjoy the koolaid ... I mean khoolaid in Israel.