February 2nd, 2012
09:28 AM ET

Israel: Iran developing long-range missiles

By Kevin Flower

Iran is developing a missile capable of delivering payloads up to 10,000 kilometers (6,200 miles) away, Israel's vice prime minister charged Thursday.

Speaking to Israel's annual Herzliya national security conference, Moshe Ya'alon, who also serves as Israel's minister for strategic affairs, suggested that an Iranian military compound that mysteriously blew up late last year was developing a long-range missile capable of hitting the United States.

Ya'alon said the project was "aimed at America, not us" and said it served as further argument that Iran posed a "military problem" that needed to be stopped.

"Such a non-conventional regime should not have such non-conventional capabilities," he added.

Iranian officials said the explosion was the result of a munitions depot accidentally catching fire at the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) military base in Bidgeneh village, located on the outskirts of Shahriar city and about 35 kilometers (21 miles) west of Tehran.

At least 17 people, including a general, died as a result of a blast on the base, Iranian state media reported at the time.

Senior defense officials told CNN that the United States believed the Iranians were mixing volatile fuel for a rocket motor for a large ballistic missile on November 12 when the explosion occurred.

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  33. Naija

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    February 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Reply
  34. Frank Benjamin

    Iran’s Secret Weapon

    The neocons, especially the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, are bowing to the dictates of their Israeli puppet masters. These marionettes are wanting the United States to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities. Because Israel does not have the technical ability to do this.

    There is virtuously no chance that the Iranians, even if they had deliverable nuclear warheads,…..why there is virtuously no chance that the Iranians have the technological ability to attack their Arab neighbors, Western Europe, much less the United States.

    However…there is a distinct possibility that the Russians have sold weaponized smallpox to the Iranians. And in the event of an Iranian smallpox attack on our people, no CDC (Anthony Fauci MD) crash smallpox immunization is going to save us. Why, Fauci and the government were not even able to supply the vaccine, in a timely manner, in the relatively innocuous Swine Flu “epidemic” several years ago.

    Fact of matter, it was the action of Bush, Cheney, Fauci, Gerberding and the other Bush/Clinton puppets that has left us vulnerable to the Iranian biologic weapon systems. After all, how complicated would it be to put fifty blonde haired, blue eyed, fair skinned, recently smallpox infected, Iranian agents on a series of international flights ultimately destined for the USA.

    By the time America realized what was about to transpire, why, it would be too late! Once started, from at least fifty American sites, the smallpox epidemic would be unstoppable. It would just run its course, killing over half of the US population. And leaving tens of millions more crippled for life. America would be a sitting duck. Incapable of repelling a conventional attack from Bangladesh, Peru or even Albania!

    I find it ironic that it was the CDC “expert” Anthony Fauci who, capitulated to the demands of “President Cheney.” And disallowed patients and their personal physicians from being able to voluntarily immunize against smallpox. During the run up to Cheney’s phony war against Iraq. Cheney didn’t want (the extremely low incidence of) smallpox adverse r cardiovascular reactions to spoil his little gift to the military industrial complex.

    Listen! Except for the military, there’s been no smallpox immunization program in the United States since 1972. And thus, it is the loss of the herd immunity to smallpox that has left us highly vulnerable to smallpox biological warfare.

    If you want to do something for the this country, Dr. Fauci, pull your head out of the sand, and go back and undo the smallpox trap that you and the CDC’s Dr. Julie Gerberding, on the orders of President Cheney, unwittingly, set for the American people. It’s for patients and their own physicians, not you, to decide re: smallpox vaccinations. Smallpox vaccinations carried out in a timely and orderly fashion. A biologic warfare smallpox attack on the American people, by the Iranians in retaliation for the planned US/Israel attack on Iran’s nuclear Facilities is a distinct possibility.

    Listen! Americans are rapidly losing their herd immunity to smallpox. Forget about Israel’s nuclear paranoia. Iran is no more of a threat to Israel than is North Korea or Pakistan. You don’t see Hillary and the other Israeli marionettes pushing for a bombing attack on Pakistan’s and North Korea’s nuclear facilities, do you?
    Leave Iran alone! An attack on Iran or even the threat of an attack on Iran or just the current sanctions against Iran are all to be considered counterproductive. These actions will/already are crippling our fragile economy. Tell the Israeli lobby to take a hike.

    Be advised, although the Bush and, later, the Obama administrations never publicized it, Americans, today, are more vulnerable to an Iranian weaponized smallpox attack than they have been in the last 250 years! If you don’t believe this, just ask the American Indian who, unlike the Europeans, had no herd immunity to smallpox!

    Frank Benjamin

    February 22, 2012 at 1:03 am | Reply
    • weakcountriesonly

      right. israel is smart getting others to fight their wars and knock out all their neighbours so they can be the top dog. might as well make israel us territory.

      February 26, 2012 at 12:51 am | Reply
    • David Fine

      We'll never have peace with israel goading us on to wage war with Iran.

      We don't need an ally like israel.

      February 26, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Reply
    • Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, B.A., J.D., S.P.J.

      Perhaps Mr. Franklin was holding the Kite string too tight when the lightning struck? Google "Bunker Buster Bombs and Israel" on Google, and on Google Israel. There are tens of thousands of bombs listed as sold to Israel. Do you think it's possible that US and Israelie Intelligence have not listed exactly all of the Bunker Busters that Israel has purchased? If you want to know what will happen, just ask jimmy The Greek in Las Vegas. The odds never lie!

      March 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  35. Chuckie

    Iran having a nuke is whats gonna prevent a nuke goin off in that region since Israel already has them. Why would Israel have nukes if no country around it does? Because they intend on actually using it when they want to. They were gonna use it against Egypt during a past war because they were close to losing.

    February 14, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Reply
    • J. Pollard the Soon to be free from jail spy thanks obama

      Come on WW3 Baby! In the end everyone gets nuked. The best part is israel gets nuked, too! Yippeeeeeee!

      No more israel and no more zionism.

      Yippppeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! come on israel hurry up and attack Iran. Let's get it on.

      Yippppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! no more zionism – death to israel. come one ww3. Yippppeeeeee!

      Hey look at my thumb . . . gee you're dumb!

      February 14, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Reply
  36. Ramos

    Both Iran, Israel and the US know Iran wouldnt use a nuke in a first strike. It would be the end of them. They wouldnt have anywhere near the numbers or capability of successful delivery of the numbers required to actually destroy any nation. But would get utterly destroyed themselves. Their only purpose is for deterence. The reason why Israel doesn't like it isnt because of a fear of attack. Its because of a fear of defence. No Middle East country can defend itself against an attack by Israel or its puppet the US. Israel is free to do as it pleases in the Middle East. Whether its a conflict over the rights of Palestinians or a future conflict over water. It wants to maintain that superiority. If another country is on equal footing with them they won't be able to keep throwing their weight around. The second reason is with nuclear material Iran can build depleted uranium ammunition which is very powerful stuff and can penetrate alot of armor. This is legal and the US uses it. Israel too. They don't want Iran to have it so that even conventionally they're on the same footing

    February 14, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Reply
    • madams12

      Ramos wrote: "Whether its a conflict over the rights of Palestinians or a future conflict over water Israel wants to maintain that superiority. If another country is on equal footing with them they won't be able to keep throwing their weight around.".......

      Thanks Ramos.....you NAILED it...and it is indeed with a sense of relief that I read more and more often that Americans like you are finally FINALLY getting it and speaking it out loud....despite the hail of propaganda (hasbara) and bullying that has been standard SOP on this very topic. Israel has always regarded Iran as a HUGE Economic competitor...WITH OIL. A highly educated population, with a long history of achievement and culture that far exceeds its own. Thus translating its continued bleating of "existential threat"...and using an oft repeated intentionally MIS translated quote uses it to whip of fear and frenzy amongst its Jewish population whilst devastating its 20% non Jewish population and routinely attempting to CRUSH life and hope from the Occupied population. It often seems as if Israel truly has arrived at its once threatened intention to act like madmen....and thus...to not be trusted by any entity. There's never been a plan for "peace" but rather to continue its ethnic cleansing/slow genocide and expulsion. It is long past time for the US to turn off that spigot and end endless supply of weapons which Israel uses in Gaza otherwise known as the "weapons Laboratory"....for new "field experience". Iran just wants what everyone else has....an environment to live, grow & develop technologically without fear of attack; After all, it was the US that long ago pushed the Shah towards, nuclear power/development, in order to preserve their sweet oil for US. Clever. However, this is not what we read in the msm nor will ever be broadcast on FOX NBC, CBS etc. So good for CNN for making this forum possible. No more "humanitarian bombing" anywhere.

      February 14, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Reply
  37. Mike

    Iran never attacked anyone, just defended itself against Iraq when they attacked them. Why do we think they will attack anyone with a nuke or missile? Its called deterence. Thats why Russia and the US never attacked eachother. Its why Pakistan built the nuke after India built it. And if Iran wants to build one its because Israel already has hundreds. That being said we have no proof they are building one. No IAEA report concluded that. If they did then they wouldnt keep going back to do inspections or gather info.

    February 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Reply
  38. Mike

    Propaganda BS. No country has dared attack the US since WW2. Iranians aren't dumb. Even if they have a long range missile and/or a nuke. Its called deterrence. That would be bad thing though because Israel wants to be able to attack and destroy when it wants.

    February 14, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  39. PullMyFinger

    It looks like Amadbeensobad is asking "Please someone pull my finger....quick!!!!"

    February 13, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
  40. Hahahahahahahaha

    So when do the doilie heads and towel heads start flying? Hahahahahahahahaha

    February 13, 2012 at 9:08 am | Reply
  41. Free Bradley Manning!


    February 5, 2012 at 1:57 am | Reply
    • Bozo The Clown


      February 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
  42. Alex

    That Iran wants to wipe Israel from the map is a big lie. Ahmadinejad has never told that. We are lied to for years. And I see they are repeating the same lies again here. Anybody who has doubt about it should watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNzrNEFs1E&feature=endscreen&NR=1 He proposed a democratic solution to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. But they want to keep us scared of Iran. But why?

    February 4, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Reply
  43. Alex

    It is funny that Israel is accusing Iran. She recently test fired a new long-range missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads. This three-stage Jericho-3 missile, which is capable of delivering a 750-kilo warhead to a distance, is estimated to have a range of up to 10,000 kilometers. I wonder for what reason Israel needs such a missile. For sure not for targeting Iran. Why nobody is worried about it? Is Israel is going to target the US too?

    February 4, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Reply
  44. Sayan Majumdar

    Iran is indeed asking for trouble.

    And if their Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) are indeed liquid fuelled as stated above, they will be highly vulnerable to pre emptive strikes by potential adversaries as the launch process of liquid fuelled missiles are time consuming and cumbersome.


    February 3, 2012 at 9:09 am | Reply
    • J. Pollard the Soon to be free from jail spy thanks obama

      Shut up Sayan . . . you're a disgusting IDF propagandist. F off. You're posts are sooo frigging boring. You know nothing but crap.

      February 14, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Reply
  45. Not Tom Jones

    This is not one of those boy cried wolf scenario, except in this case the wolf never appears. But it makes for a great Tom Clancy novel, like brown skinned men with beards are now taking over the world. But you never heve to fear nothing. Like Monty Burns once said, "For once the rich white man is in control".

    February 3, 2012 at 2:29 am | Reply
  46. Darren Webb-Johnson

    US warcriminals are all rant about IRAN yet they give weapons to nations like Lebanon & Pakistan knowing full well that Pakistans ISI paid 9/11 terrorists,Pakistans ISI were behind terrorist attacks in Afghanistan(US embassy,Kabul,2011) & India(Mumbai,2008),Pakistans ISI support the Talibans efforts killing US soldiers within Afghanistan,Pakistans ISI protected Osama Bin Laden for over a decade,the USA also allowed Pakistan to safely airlift evacuate senior Taliban & Al Qaeda members from Tora Bora,Afghanistan to inside Pakistan in late 2001 & that Lebanon has strong ties to terrorists Hezbollah.
    The next 9/11 could be a dirty nuke killing 100,000's in the US,Europe,Israel,Australia or at an event like the Olympics & it could from Pakistani sources & yet the USA gives this nation weapons & training. The USA supports terrorists to keep its sectarian wars ongoing like that in Afghanistan & to keep its corrupt overspending warmachine rolling on. Nothing has changed for decades with the corruption of the warcriminals USA & the reason IRAN is a extremist state is NO THANKS to the corruption of the USA. The CIA illegally removed a popular IRANIAN democratically elected leader in 1953 (Mossadeq) to replace him with a US imposed dictator (the SHAH) only to get greater control of IRANIAN OIL. In 1979 after 26 years under the murderous rule of the SHAH & understandably much resentment to the USA the Iranians had the Islamic revolution. Shortly after this the USA gave weapons to Saddam Husseins IRAQ in the earlier years of the IRAN/IRAQ war knowing full well of his warcrimes then shortly after that they gave weapons to IRAN knowing well by then they had links to terrorists Hezbollah to support the Contra rebels(IRAN CONTRA AFFAIR). Just like the Taliban,Pakistans ISI,Hamas,Hezbollah,Iran & Al Qeda the USA are terrorists too.

    February 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
  47. Husk

    I think the Big picture is are we really ready to let Israel blow up Iranian weaponry, Piss off all the Arab nations that supply us with oil? Can we afford prices of oil hiking with an economy very very very slowly recovering? That is gonna help the US deal with an increasing deficit?

    February 2, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Reply
    • duckforcover

      I'm not ready to allow a nuclear war so everybody can drive a gas-guzzling Escalade.

      February 4, 2012 at 10:15 am | Reply
      • Ramos

        Why do you think there'll be a nuclear war if Iran gets the nuke? Iran never attacked anyone before. Its deterence against a nuke attack by Israel. Iran having a nuke is whats gonna prevent a nuke goin off in that region since Israel already has them. Why would Israel have nukes if no country around it does? Because they intend on actually using it when they want to. They were gonna use it against Egypt during a past war because they were close to losing.

        February 14, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  48. Miriam (the non hasbaRat)

    It was really something reading the blather of the hasbaRats..but earlier, masochist that I am, I watched the 'livestream' of Alan Dershbag at U of Penn where they gathered to denigrate the BDS Conference and its speakers, students & attendees....
    Dersh just cannot help himself, talking out of both sides of his mouth on nearly every topic...starting with "we live in a free society and everybody has a right to say what's on their mind, including criticism of Israel....all of you have that right"...
    ..but then started talking about the "hard left" and how some of the senior profs on many campuses are horrible examples and should be Shamed in front of their students for voicing their opinions which includes criticism of Israel. OH THE HORROR!!
    Then he talked about Iran ...stating that no attack Israel launched could be considered "pre-emptive" because after all Iran declared war on Israel in Ahmadinejad's oft repeated Mal-translated comment (in which he REALLY said : One day "the zionist entity will be removed from the map of the world."..Just as the USSR was removed from the map of the world) is today "USED" as a "Declaration of war" according to the honorable Harvard law prof.

    How many more times will we have to hear this continuous stream of lies about Iran?
    We are witness to the same strategies used by neocons in the Bush govt that led us into a pre-emptive attack on IRAQ based on lies.. Why else is the US creating a massive build up of soldiers and war machine in the Persian Gulf..?

    The Iranians suffered ENORMOUS losses during the Iraq-Iran war (when the US govt backed Saddam) and more than 1MILLION Iranian soldiers were killed. (whilst Israel helped arm IRAN btw!!. against implicit instructions from REAGAN to stay out of it).
    The REALITY is that Israel wants to remain the all powerful Hegemon of the region...and has long seen Iran as its greatest competitive threat. A large nation, blessed with many resources, and large well educated population.

    This TRUMPED UP claim by the ONLY NUCLEAR ARMED state in the region,( Israel, with ALL WMD -chem/bio/nuke– which has NEVER signed NPT agreement.. has NEVER had an IAEA INSPECTION at DIMONA NUCLEAR PLANT in more than 50 years)... and is THE single greatest threat to global security.. is a aggressor nation...

    Yet brilliant Alan Dershowitz claims that IRAN is a "threat" to Israel's security, (despite its 300 nuclear, thermonuclear and neutron bombs).but what good is such a terrifying arsenal, if a country like Iran does eventually build ONE BOMB, some day?

    How did Nixon have the temerity to go to China and open relations with them ?
    How did Reagan dare to sit with Gorbachev and when Gorby suggestd that they ELIMINATE all their nukes REAGAN's Jaw dropped open...and he was over joyed saying YES...until the INTELLIGENCE lads told him "its got to be a trick.Just get rid of a few"....so we lost that phenomenal opportunity.....

    IF THE US could live for 50 yrs with a highly armed USSR and thru DIPLOMACY maintain stabiltiy....and allow a "live and let live" policy with CHINA....why in the heck cant Israel "allow" Iran the same right?
    LET OTHERS LIVE IN PEACE...Police actions everywhere mean INSECURITY for ALL our childrens' futures....Peace

    February 2, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Reply
  49. Stephen

    Israel is just sources of HOAX, very worried if other countries had enough power to kick them to sea....
    israel protest about iranian nuclear program, but zionist built a heap of nuke missiles....
    its very fun... n not fair...

    February 2, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Reply
  50. Julian

    On related news, Israel is hoarding a heap of nukes.

    So freaking what?

    February 2, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Reply
  51. Babak from LA

    Oh .. So Israel is concerned about our safety here in America from the Iranian missles... I think we can handle Iran ... Israel should worry about Israel.... hhmmm I guess they are!!

    February 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Reply
    • rick

      another strong talker from the west side of the country. not afraid of Iran's missiles eh? good for you. i live on east coast. they scare the hell out of me.

      February 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Reply
      • Babak from LA

        Me too but I think NORAD has us covered!

        February 2, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
      • ConcernedEASTMan

        Really? Scared Poopless? Are you 12? Grow some gonads

        February 2, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
      • Roy Cohn

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        February 2, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Dude

      As if the US would have been able to enter Iraq if Israel did not take care of Iraq's nuclear program 30 years ago. You do seem to have a short memory...

      February 4, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
  52. Voice of Reason

    If they put the Missiles in Venezuela, it's only 200 miles away, maybe less..... time to up the ante

    February 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Reply
    • Voice of Reason

      2000 miles, sorry, typo

      February 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Reply
    • rick

      time to google "Monroe doctrine" and Cuba Missile crisis. what kind of school did you attend?

      February 2, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Reply
  53. citizenmn

    Little man Ahmadinejad is running his stupid mouth again. I still can't believe Iranians traded the Shah for this trash regime.

    February 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • Buzk

      They didn't. Ronald Reagan supported Ayatullah Khomeini's rise to power.
      And Iran has been suffering ever since.
      Ever sine the last time we meddled in their democratic elections with mossadegh.

      February 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Reply
      • Buzk

        The great Gipper was also a staunch supporter of a young aspiring Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan during his early mujahedeen days. Fox News will absolutely brainwash the truth right out of your head.

        February 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  54. Frank Oliver

    "Unconventional regime"!! Listen to this guy! Unconventional?
    Israel: an absolutely unconvintional "country" occupied violently from a peaceful nation (Palestinian), authorized by a foreign country(England).
    Israelis: an unconventional "nation", jews coming from everywhere to an stolen land living under the protection of those who hunted their folks just for being jews.
    Israel: an unconventional "power" finger pointing on everyone who it considers an enemy and wanting other nations to fight for them

    February 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
    • rick

      as i thought, a palestinian apologist. when the arabs attacked Israel in 1948, the arabs that stayed in israel instead of clearing a path for the arab armies were granted full citizenship. Those that left now want the fruits of their losing. so they kill athletes, blow up buses, send rockets and get their buddies to attack again in 1967 and 1973 which didnt work out for them too well. keep whining and the refugee camps will never be vacated

      February 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Reply
    • rick

      any familiarity with world history, frank? israel has fought its own wars, its the palestinians who are sending the daily rockets that run and hide behind the skirts of the lebanese, syrians, iranians, etc.

      February 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Reply
    • dank70

      OH Frank, frnkly I don't give a hoot about what you think, do or want. yoo hole in the lower back

      February 2, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Reply
  55. Frank Oliver

    Rick: Americans are waking up. You better find an ass to crowl in to rpotect your miserable jewish life . Arrogant and big mouth creatures like you have managed successfully to convert even peacfull and balanced people all around the world to become somehow anti Jew/Israel/Zioshits. Don't you notice that you self appeasing megalomeniac?

    February 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
    • rick

      actually frank, the world is getting tired of you and your fellow muslim whiners: "woe is me, woe is me, jews are the fault of our misery. woe is me, woe is me, we send one rocket and they send back three." and in Iran : "woe is me, woe is me, my big mouth is causing my misery. woe is me, woe is me, we are our own worst enemy". Your diatribe is pathetic. try posting a rational argument sometime rather than simply spewing crap

      February 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Reply
      • Buzk

        You can measure the righteousness of zionism but its blind intolerance and hatred for muslims.
        Hate-mongering might be Israel's only export.

        February 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
      • Voice of Reason

        Lol Rick, you are awesome, keep it real and anti extremist my friend. The rest of you asswipes should go back to the Neo-Nazi hole you crawled out of

        February 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
      • Buzk

        Neo-Nazi? That is sooooo 1970s my articulate trailer habitatin' hobo...
        Old school.
        The current term for anyone who questions zionism is "terrorist" or "muslim apologist..."
        Step it up, cletus...

        February 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
      • J. Pollard the Soon to be free from jail spy thanks obama

        I hate zionism and zionist dogs. zionists are a dirty people. They don't bath and they stink all the time especially those jerk-offs from Russia. Disgusting. The whole world hates israel.

        February 14, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • dank70

      hole in the lower back, like your Hamas brothers

      February 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Reply
  56. Buzk

    An important book to consider when you think about whether Israel misled Americans into war in Iraq (like they are trying again in Iran)

    Columbia U book on Iraq war suggests Wolfie, Feith, Wurmser and Perle had ‘Israeli interests, not just U.S. interests at heart’
    by Philip Weiss on December 21, 2011 103

    An important new book on the Iraq war published by Columbia University Press, written by a former longtime CIA official, contains a dual loyalty charge against the neoconservatives, saying that some of them had Israeli interests and not just American interests "at heart" in pushing the war. The charge concludes a section that names Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, David Wurmser and Paul Wolfowitz as former Bush officials who cared about Israel.

    Author Paul Pillar has a stellar Establishment reputation. He held several senior positions at the CIA and National Intelligence Council, serving during the Iraq war. Now a professor at the Edmund Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown, he has published a sharp critique of the war effort, titled Intelligence and US Foreign Policy: Iraq, 9/11, and Misguided Reform.

    I got the book yesterday and find that it repeatedly attacks the neoconservatives for hatching the plans for this disastrous war, which was then executed by "assertive nationalists," Rumsfeld and Cheney. Pillar calls them a "cabal."

    The Iraq adventure was initiated by a small number of neoconservative intellectuals and assertive nationalists, ultimately backed by George W. Bush's gut. The numbers were small enough for Powell's longtime assistant Lawrence Wilkerson to refer plausibly to a "cabal" as being responsible for the war.

    Pillar is hardest on the neoconservative ideology of using force to spread democracy in the Arab world. He devotes many pages to exploring, and exploding, these ideas. 

    He singles out former Bush aides David Wurmser, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz for their roles in fomenting the war and though he says that talking about Israeli security as a motive is the "third rail of American politics," he concludes that "sympathy for Israel and its interests" played an important role in the war plans. 

    Specifically, in a four-page section titled "Israel," conveniently overlooked by the NYT Book Review of the book, Pillar cites Feith, Perle and Wurmser for assisting Netanyahu in the late 90s with the "Clean Break" policy paper that urged the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and the outsourcing of the Palestinian problem to Jordan. Though he does not say that all three men are Jewish, Pillar quotes these religious words by those neocons in that plan, rejecting the idea of land for peace:

    "Our claim to the land to which we have clung for hope for 2000 years–is legitimate and noble."

    Pillar then states that Feith's "dedication to Israeli interests had an intensely personal foundation," describing the annihilation of his father Dalck's whole family in Poland during the Holocaust.

    Pillar describes Wolfowitz as "another architect of the Iraq war with connections to Israel" and offers that his sister moved to Israel and he was celebrated by the Jerusalem Post as a strong supporter of Israel.

    Pillar's section on the Israel interests concludes thusly:

    Sympathy for Israeli interests probably was not the principal motivator of the decision to launch the Iraq War, but it did play an important supporting role....[S]ome policymakers probably gave less attention or weight than U.S. interests warranted to, say, the American human and material resources required for the post invasion occupation of Iraq because they had Israeli interests (or their particular conception of those interests) and not just U.S. interests at heart.

    February 2, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Reply
    • rick

      you appear to be literate but being able to read and write is not a substitute for intelligence. keep reading, other than your fellow racists i doubt anyone will read your lengthy post. the key to cyber communication is to keep it short, thus twitter. honesty helps also

      February 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
    • paul

      some books are important and some, not so much. this book falls into the latter category. however, 1] the author is certainly entitled to his opinion and 2] bush cheney, and colin powell are not jewish and 3] why wouldn't these american jews you refer to consider how the war in iraq would affect Israel? this is a phony argument and I expect you will soon quote the "protocols of zion" in oder to further the interests of your muslim clients.

      February 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Reply
    • Buzk

      This book falls into important category for Americans and the disparage and dismiss category if you are a zionist puppet.
      The main thing is the research is scholarly and verifiable whole zionism is something that can easily be discredited.

      February 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
    • Buzk

      Now who else from hasbara is coming to spout off?
      Just you two?

      February 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
    • Buzk

      From Newstateman...

      The 535 Americans who are blocking peace in the Middle East
      Published 19 May 2011
      The US Congress is so in thrall to the American Israel lobby AIPAC that it more of a hindrance to the peace process than the Knesset itself.

      "I had 700 days of 'no' in Northern Ireland, and one 'yes'," remarked George Mitchell in May 2010. A year on, and having spent more than 800 days in the Middle East with no sign of a "yes" on the horizon in Ramallah or Tel Aviv, the frustrated former senator announced his resignation as President Obama's peace envoy to the region.
      Cue much hand-wringing about the future of the "peace process". But there is nothing new about the Obama administration's failure to get Israelis and Palestinians back to the negotiating table; peace talks have been on hold since 2008. As the mild-mannered Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, a long-time ally of the US, noted in a recent interview: "It was Obama who suggested a full settlement freeze. I said OK, I accept. We both went up the tree. After that, he came down with a ladder and he removed the ladder and said to me, jump."
      Obama, however, like George W Bush before him, is a distraction. When it comes to the US's Middle East policy, true power and influence lies elsewhere. Pronouncements from the executive branch of the US government attract much of the attention of foreign governments and the world's media; few outside (or, for that matter, inside) the US pay attention to the behaviour of the country's legislature when it comes to Israel and the Palestinians.
      It is Congress that passes resolution after resolution backing Israel and condemning the Palestinians; it is Congress that approves arms sales to Israel and grants Tel Aviv billions of dollars in aid. Presidents, secretaries of state and special envoys come and go; meanwhile, Congress, whether Republican- or Democrat-controlled, always stands four-square behind Israel's occupation of the West Bank.
      Following the Aipac
      The Congress of the United States consists of 100 senators and 435 members of the House of Representatives; in effect, just 535 Americans are blocking efforts to bring peace to the Middle East. Why? Forget the pious guff about Israel being the region's "only democracy" and a "valued friend and ally" of Washington. In the corrupt and dysfunctional US political system, where legislators are outnumbered by special interests, from the gun lobby to Big Pharma, the Israel lobby – specifically, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) that brags on its website about being "the most important organisation affecting America's relationship with Israel" – has a financial stranglehold on both main parties. According to William Quandt, a former adviser on the Middle East to the Nixon and Carter administrations, "70 per cent to 80 per cent of all members of Congress will go along with whatever they think Aipac wants".
      It is Aipac that polices congressional votes on Israel, demands unconditional US support for the occupation of the West Bank and insists that Israel remain the largest single annual recipient of US foreign aid ($250 a year per Israeli, compared to $1 a year per African). Consider this: the upper and lower houses of Congress are more divided, polarised and partisan than in any other period in recent history. Democrats and Republicans agree on nothing. Except Israel.
      Presidents who have tried to pressurise the Israelis – from Reagan to Obama – have found themselves attacked not just in the Knesset but in Congress. In the words of Paul Findley, a Republican from Illinois who served in the House of Representatives for 22 years before being
      defeated by an Aipac-funded candidate in 1982: "Congress behaves as if it were a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament." The irony is that there is far more heated debate about Israel's actions on the floor of the Knesset than on Capitol Hill. "For 35 years, not a word has been expressed . . . in either chamber of Congress that deserves to be called debate on Middle East policy," Findley wrote in 2002.

      February 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Reply
      • dank70

        you quote paul findley on the middle east? like quoting adolf hitler on antisemitism, hahahahahahahahaha

        February 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
      • Buzk

        Who do you expect to be quoted? Joe Leiberman.
        We have to come up with a term for "hitler-izing" any American who does not bow to zionism...

        And another one for people who hate muslims with the same ferocity that they cry "anti-semitism...."

        Findley, Walt, Mearsheimer...all hitlers
        [edit]Criticism of US-Israel Relations

        Findley is a frequent critic of U.S. foreign policy regarding Israel. In 1985, Findley wrote the best selling book[7] "They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby" in which he states that the pro-Israel lobby, notably AIPAC, has vast undue influence over the United States Congress. He refers to the lobby as "the 700-pound gorilla in Washington".[8] He closes his book with this plea:
        The government of the United States must assert, at long last, its own national interests in the Middle East. ... The world views our nation – accurately – as Israel's essential partner in its military adventurism and its suppression of human rights. America must clear its good name of this complicity. ... The next logical U.S. steps: declare that the people in occupied territories have the right to self-determination and, if they choose, independent statehood; demand that Israeli forces cease the detention of Palestinians without due process, as well as halt the beatings of Palestinians, the destruction of their homes and the use of plastic bullets and other lethal weapons against them; demand that new Israeli settlements in the occupied territories be prohibited. The United States has ample leverage with which to force compliance with these demands. At some point – the sooner the better – the United States must issue a clear ultimatum: notify the Jewish state that all U.S. aid will cease unless Israel, in exchange for border guarantees, withdraws its forces from Arab territories."[9]
        The Washington Post reviewing They Dare to Speak Out said: "Stripped of all the maudlin martyrdom, former congressman Paul Findley's message is straightforward and valid: Israeli influence in the United States, including in the inner sanctums of government, is very strong." [10] The New York Times review by Adam Clymer, described the book as "an angry, one-sided book that seems often to be little more than a stringing together of stray incidents ... [it] does not really accept the idea that people of any political point of view are entitled to organize, support their friends and try to defeat the people they think are their enemies".[11]
        Findley lists the Israeli lobby as one of the factors contributing to his narrow defeat in 1982, alongside the serious national recession of 1982 and the substantial change of his district's boundaries after the 1980 census. "In seeking gains for Israel, they rigorously stifled dissent and intimidated the entire Congress. They still do. They defeat legislators who criticize Israel. Senators Adlai Stevenson III and Charles H. Percy, and Representatives Pete McCloskey, Cynthia McKinney, Earl F. Hilliard, and myself were defeated at the polls by candidates heavily financed by pro-Israel forces. McKinney alone was able to regain her seat in Congress."[12] (McKinney lost her seat again two years later.)
        Findley spoke to NPR about the publication of Mearsheimer and Walt's controversial 2006 working paper, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy : "You can't imagine how pleased I was [...] I think I can pose as a foremost expert on the lobby for Israel, because I was the target the last three years I was in Congress."[

        February 2, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
    • mipolitic

      wow what a book, well here is facts that have happened and are recorded. israeli athletes kill in berlin olympic games, usa embassy personnel taking hostage , female bobby gunned down in england, 241 marines murdered in barracks , usa personnel targeted by terrorist acts in iraq and afghanistan , terrorist attacks in israel, all of which have been conducted by iran. and a host of americans and others detained in iran and some facing death for no reason. perhaps the author of this book is a little bias or just misleading.

      February 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Reply
      • Buzk

        I know it is probably only a couple...one or two...but do you have any idea if any muslim civilians have been killed by Israelis or Americans in the last what? 40-50 years you covered....any?

        Just curious

        February 2, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
      • Buzk

        Since you are a "fact" guy, mipolitic, I figure you will definitely have a body count ready for objective "factual" comparison...get back to me on them facts. Holla!

        February 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
      • Hu Zhao

        You're listing the deaths of soldiers during war as something wrong? So Israeli and US soliders are allowed to shoot and kill people but if they got shot back at then its wrong? Thats gonna be the downfall of you and people that think like you. Youre gonna be a bunch of whiny babies with no real fortitude. You think calling airstrikes on people fighting you in slippers is bravery. Yea Mr. brave soldier who has every advantage there is to have in a battle and doesn't have to worry about aircraft or armour or real trained and equipped soldiers is a real hero. You're filling yourselves with this crap that one day when you have to face a REAL war you're gonna be stunned and bissin your pants.

        February 14, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
  57. Stan

    Tell the zionists to fight their own battles and keep us out of it, damn israeli leeches

    February 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Reply
    • Truth

      Agree 100%

      February 2, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Reply
      • paul

        israel has always fought its own battles and no doubt will continue to do so. do any of you anti-israel posters know about 1948, 1967 and 1973? aware that Israel, by itself, in the 80s took out Iraqs and Syrias nuclear facilities? actually i assume you do as your pro arab/palestinian rhetoric is otherwise nonsensical and is only useful as disengenuos propaganda

        February 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
      • Buzk

        Scroungers with an insane pride....too proud to beg us to attack Iran
        And every day, they come back begging us to attack Iran...
        Oh, proud Israel
        Proudest of the deadbeat scroungers.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Marie

      Thank god we are waking up to the BS, at last!

      February 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Reply
      • fred

        the only BS is coming from the bigots posing as Americans while wearing their veils and cheering 9/11

        February 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
      • Buzk

        More of the proIsrael "shared values:" every zionist you read comments from has a rabid hatred and intolerance for Muslims...soon, if we dont answer their SCROUNGING and BEGGING again, it will be an insane hatred for Americans...they use you until you are all used up.

        And then they hate you and attack
        And call YOU the terrorists

        This is zionism
        Zionist = racism.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
  58. Buzk

    Israeli fear-mongering....again...and they will keep nagging until we take out Iran juuuuust like we did in Iraq.

    Israel started nipping at Saddam and Iraq's "nuclear weapons" in the 1970's. Until they finally manipulated BOTH Bushes to do their dirty work...at what cost to our nation? F-orget Israel


    February 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Reply
    • Buzk

      We pay the $3.2 Billion in weapons every year and they always come begging and scrounging for more...

      February 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Reply
      • Lucke

        Begging works!!!

        February 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
      • Buzk

        AIPAC lobbying and Israel Loyalty Pledges in Congress work.
        The tick is buried deep under the skin of washington dc

        February 2, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
      • rick

        considering that they are our only trusted ally in the area, the amount provided is cheap. We know for sure that our planes can always land there and our troops will always be welcome and secure. You muslim apologists are beating a dead camel with your tired whining, "woe is me, woe is me, everyone but us has caused our misery"

        February 2, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
      • Buzk

        Trusted ally...???

        Desert Storm: No Israel
        Op Iraqi Freedom: No Israel
        Afghanistan: No Israel

        A coalition of forces with some 30-50 or more countries helping...
        NO ISRAEL!
        Some "trusted ally."

        February 2, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
      • Buzk

        Sell it to hasbara, rick
        Sell it to hasbara fellowships?
        Huh? Oh, that's where you got it?

        February 2, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Buzk

      If you look at the Operation Opera link, you can see that Israel, the US and Iran all COOPERATED in attacks against Iraq.
      Now Israel is assassinating Iran's scientists...
      And I think Andrew Adler in Atlanta made clear that our Israeli assassinations aren't far behind.
      Give Israel everything they want
      Or else!

      February 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Reply
      • rick

        you posted "if you look at the Operation Opera link, you can see that Israel, the US and Iran all COOPERATED in attacks against Iraq." and then you post that Israel is not an ally of the US. are you drunk or simply stupid?

        February 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
      • Buzk

        Good point, if you followed the comments, what I said was, Israel was allies with USA and Iran against Iraq.
        Now that WE (not Israel) defanged Iraq, warmongering, psychotic paranoid Israel is attacking Iran...
        Who do you think "they'll" come after when Iran is destroyed?
        Andrew Adler knows.

        Israel has been around for about 60 years and has been in conflict playing the poor victim for exactly the same amount of time....scrounging and manipulating the American people. For what? What do we get from Israel?
        Nothing but problems...

        February 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
      • ABL

        Buzk, In response to your point about Israel not participating in Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedome, Afghanistan....

        All political rhetoric aside, have you considered the effect that Israel's participation would have had in the region?

        That Israel's direct military involvement would have been "oil on the fire", complicating coalition relations with neighboring countries, and that this was considered when forming the coalition, seems beyond question.

        February 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
      • Buzk

        Not surprisingly, I hear the exact same response (hasbara platform? Script?) EVERYTIME I bring up the subject of Israel being a false fictional ally.

        It amuses me to contemplate the genius of the spinmeister who says, "hey! I've got it...we always hate on muslims so we'll say the muslims refused to allow jews into the muslim countries the American / coalition forces are attacking!"

        Surprsingly, these same psycho fundamentalist fictional muslim "allies" did not ask us to veil our women or kick American or coalition jews off our forces....nor did they say anything about a second crusade....but I KNOW FOR SURE.... That BUSH AND ESPECIALLY CHENEY were very conscientious about Muslim feelings .... And protocol.....


        February 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
      • Buzk

        You are a band of western, christian nations PREEMPTIVELY ATTACKING a muslim country, and the surrounding Muslims are like: "Hey! My friend, my friend, one thing....no jews, ok?" pffft.
        As if any surrounding country was even a consideration...
        Israel is only good for Israel.

        February 2, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
      • thebearjew

        buzk,"What do we get from Israel"?
        all your advances, technology, where do you think they come from?
        your banks, sports teams, governments, hollywood, companies, industries, porno, EVERYTHING is run by Jews.
        the US would be shit if they didn't support that tiny desert strip

        February 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
      • Buzk

        A superior nation of uberjews, bearjew, should not have to scrounge, lie and deceive....nor should they have to oppress, which is a weakness, they should be able to outsmart and avoid all controversy while obtaining everything they want.

        Is this the case? Ha! Hardly, Israel is constantly under criticism....constantly manipulating and causing havoc, all those nobel prizes and no diplomacy skills at all....EVERYONE KNOWS Israelis are pathological liars...everyone including Sarkozy and Obama.

        America and Israel would both be better off without eachother Israel is greedy and selfish and would never knowingly hand anything of value to americans .... and Americans are enablers which allow Israel zionist mulitant ethno-elitists easetrn bloc socialist fake – jews to believe we will continue to back up their insanity until we implode...bad for israelis in the long run.

        Id like nothing better than a great jewish nation of super jews that America didnot have to subsidize, because jews cant manage their own affairs....like parasites..

        February 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
      • Buzk

        But I appreciate the effort which I call the "pride argument" in the zionist catalog of excuses and alibis.
        (see above)

        February 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  59. Andrew

    Having a rocket that can 'fly' 6000+ miles is pretty easy, enough fuel and it goes that far. Getting it to strike where you want it to PRECISELY is another matter.

    Ballistic Missile technology is in many ways much more difficult than nuclear technology. In the end, the only thing you can do is test it. The US, USSR, China, Britain and missile powers have tested their rockets and technologies extensively.

    Testing such a long range weapon would be an extremely provocative act and could not be done in secret. The systems and Satellites that the US put into place for watching for a Soviet launch are still in place today.

    February 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
    • tezza

      Andrew, I dont know if you are Amrican but you display the typical American arrogance, Is it a "provocative act" when the US tests a missile? If Iran or any other country applied the same principles as that lunatic George Dubbya applied ( ie preventative war) Iran would be quite within its rights to attach the US or Israel, based on the daily threats it is receiving. And since I am no history expert, although I have been around to see a lot ot it, can you tell me the last time Iran ever started a war? What about the US ? Me thinks the biggest threat to world security in the next 20 years will be how the USA is going to be able to deal with the idea of it not being the number one superpower. Can the American psyche deal with that?

      February 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Reply
      • rees

        I agree with you completely tezza.

        Just look at the HISTORY. IRAN never starts the wars, EVER.

        I dont mind Americans, but they are the worlds biggest hypocrites. Come'on! You start WARS after WARS and more WARS.. And then you say: "Ooops I fu*ked up the end game".

        IRAN should and deserve to have any kind of technology that other countries already have! PERIOD.

        They need to be able to protect themselves when the heavy-industry nations run out of oil.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
      • arab whiners

        when the arabs run out of oil, they will have run out of luck. they are trying their best to exert whatever influence they presently have because soon, they will have none

        February 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  60. CPW

    As tired as I am of seeing us in a continual war, Id love Iran to attack so we could literally DEMOLISH them.

    February 2, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Reply
    • Neerka

      Israel is high on drugs.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
      • rick

        and it appears that you are low on self esteem. Keep chanting the arab/palestinian/muslim mantra: "woe is me, woe is me, Israel is the cause of our misery".

        February 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        Rick, since when did the APA start accrediting armchair psychologists?

        February 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Sgt. Fury & His Howling Faggots

      "We"? I take it then that you're going to participate in the actual combat, no? Fucking useless chicken-hawk cocksucker.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
      • wicked b

        They're bark dogs, little maggotly cowards.. Simply put.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • wicked b

      On the other side of the token, the day will come when China will be positioned to "demolish" the u.s. What then, ya coward?

      February 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Reply
    • rees

      Read the history books. Iran never starts any wars.
      Fix your economy and the suffering of your people instead of hoping for violence and wars...

      February 2, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Reply
      • fred

        Iran is at war with its own citizens. it is continually acting to their detriment while trying to prove they are big boys.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
      • rick

        they dont start wars, just threaten and then run away. straits of hormuz sound familiar?

        February 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Marie

      Then what? have a few more other 9/11s?
      I've lost one brother, I dont have another. Who do you wana lose, your mum, dad, neighbour? and for what exactly??? The leeches who smart enough not to fight their own wars? Like they got the Romans to kill Jesus now the Americans to attack Iraq, Iran... whos next.

      February 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Reply
      • fred

        i know iI am laughing at you here in the US. when was the last time you heard an american refer to their mom as "mum". one of the UK 's many home grown arab apologists, i take it ? by the way, where is Israle?

        February 2, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
      • rick

        "hey got the romans to kill jesus", finally, a bigot that doesnt say the jews killed jesus! smartest thing you posted today. too bad about your brother. did he commit suicide/homicide while trying to blow up a schoolbus in Jerusalem?

        February 2, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
      • thebearjew

        marie you imbecil ignoramous, israel doesn't need anyone to fight their wars. go read a damn history book. the US just knows it's clever to help since a certain group of people run/own the US. who's the most powerful man in the world? Obama? Wrong. Try again...have you heard of someone with the last name Bernanke? He's a yid, just like everyone who runs/owns something in the US, so our beautiful country knows they have to fucking help 🙂

        February 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  61. pugsly

    remember the last time Israel,s people were told they would be wiped off the face of the earth?don,t wait, attack iran now with exstreme predjudice

    February 2, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • Bozo The Clown

      If you're referring to the holocaust, then you should know that Israel didn't exist at the time. But facts are inconsequential to you, my friend.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
      • paul

        thinking before you post should be a requirement otherwise you appear to be a fool, fool

        February 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        You, sir, should be nominated for a Pulitzer.

        February 2, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • fred

      I believe he was referring to 1948, 1967 and 1973. he didnt says Jews, he said Israelis. dont you think, even a little, before you post?

      February 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Reply
      • Bozo The Clown

        Who are Israel's people Fred? Certainly a man as wise as yourself can figure this out.

        February 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
    • fus 9783

      i serverd in the british army for ten years and i am on the reservist list till i am forty five i am sick of fighting i just want pease and quite why dont you pick up a weapon and join up ya fat bell end. stupid fuckin civvie cunts like you need takein out into the street and shot what the fuck would you know about being on a battle field i suffer from cronic ptsd because of war and you want to go ahead with iran FUCKIN WANKER

      February 2, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Reply
      • mipolitic

        did you say you suffer from pst or stupidity? do you say you were in the british forces , becaues the only eccent i could identify is that of an idiot

        February 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  62. Portland tony

    In this case, Israeli propaganda. More fodder to stir up American politics and possibly justify a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran to "protect America". Huh!

    February 2, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Reply
    • rick

      not worried because you're on the other side of the country? or just that you are an arab apologist and that anything negative about your people is false an inspired by Israel. keep singing the arab anthem: "woe is me, woe is me, we are our own worst enemy"

      February 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Reply
      • Sgt. Fury & His Howling Faggots

        Keep kissing Israeli ass. Amazing how a strip of desert with just under 8 million people can control the 'mighty' US, isn't it?

        February 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • fred

      Iran announces they have a long range missile and Portland tony says its Israeli propaganda! cant the arabs even take credit without blaming the Israelis for giving them the credit? do the israelis have to hold their ..........when they pee?

      February 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Reply
      • Bozo The Clown

        Where in the article does it say Iran announced this Fred? Surely a genius such as yourself is capable of reading, no?

        February 2, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  63. mipolitic

    ok wwhat is difference 10,000 klics or 5,000 , well 5,000 is the difference , the distance is realy not the question here . the real question here is the history of iran and its stability as a nation that is at peace with its place in the world. well iran as we all know is a major supporter of terrorist and has conducted covert terrorist action against usa personnle and israel , iraq, england , and has continued this todate against the usa in both iraq and afghanistan. iran is not willing to grow as a peaceful nation and is trying to forcefully to position itself in the world as a nation of military might that has repeatly threatened the usa and israel. iran is unstable and it can reach england and region with an attack not to mention israel , iran seems to be on a path of confortation with nato for a nuke . why would anyone risk so much if they did not intend to use the very thing that is destorying their nations security.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • rick

      why indeed? virgins? ego? maybe they are unfamiliar with the adage "pride goeth before a fall"? who knows? maybe not even the average Iranian knows why their leaders act so irrationally in taking on the real powers in the world. at least they didnt attack a US aircraft carrier. someone in Iran recognized that saving face at the expense of losing head was not a good idea.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Reply
    • Joe

      "iran as we all know is a major supporter of terrorist and has conducted covert terrorist action against usa" really? are you saying that the we (USA) do not conduct illegal cover operations in other countries and did you forget that the only country that ever used nuclear weapons is us! aren't we conducting targeted assassinations and covert operations in other countries all the time. I call that state sponsored terrorism! yes we are the terrorists here!

      February 2, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Reply
      • George

        re: "yes we are the terrorists here!" You ought to move to Iran if you believe "we" are the terrorists here. There is a difference of intent when "we" American's conduct covert operations and targeted assasinations. You need to understand the difference between good and evil.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        Yes, George is right, they are evil because they're them; we are evil because we're us. Couldn't be any clearer.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        EDIT: We are good because we're us. This is confusing!

        February 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
      • rick

        i couldn't live somewhere that I believed was an evil empire. you apparently have no such misgivings although your rhetoric suggests that you are really a muslim stooge with an American education. we let everyone in, unlike the arab countries

        February 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        Perhaps some us subscribe to the school of thought that life isn't a Starwars movie, Rick. It's a bit more nuanced that good vs. evil.

        February 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
      • George

        Bozo...you seem to think good and evil are relative. I don't. There is such a thing as absolute good and absolute evil. Defining good or evil is not a subjective thing. In this way we differ.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
      • Bozo The Clown

        George, there is no such thing as absolute good or absolute evil. There is the duplicitous nature of man. He can be good one instant and evil the next. Any man or entity that claims a moral purity is nothing more than a snake.

        February 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
      • Kyle


        You are the embodiment of all that is wrong not only with the United States, but the entire world.
        Move to Iran. Stay there. We do not want you here. I wish that someone would find you and show you what the business end of "terrorism" is, so you would have no more misgivings about it.

        February 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  64. Chuckie

    That's right, just keep on doing nothing about this and soon long range missiles with nucs, courtesy of Iran, will be arriving at our shores. Well, if that ever happened, then Iran would be nothing but one long slab of glass.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Reply
    • rick

      the problem is: they believe killing infidels earns paradise and although Persians may generally not be as dedicated to suicide as arabs, maybe some are. we cant take a chance. the best defense is a strong offense

      February 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Reply
      • Bozo The Clown

        Iranian leaders believe in self-preservation. If you think otherwise, you are a brainwashed buffoon.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • wicked b

      With China marching towards world supremacy, economically, technologically, and militarily, it's the u.s. that needs be worried about being incinerated in the coming years. Keep your eyes open, pathetic fool.

      February 2, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
  65. Dom

    Just a question folks.... why is it any of our business what type of weapons they develop? we (meaning the US) have the largest arsenal of weapons on the planet, capable of striking anywhere on the planet in minutes. And we have the audacity to believe we can decide who does or does not have our permission to develop their own military capabilities!? Can anyone say hypocrite?

    February 2, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Reply
    • Chuckie

      Yes, when a regime that continually threatens its neighbors and sponsors terrorism and demonstrates instability, then we can decide if they should have the military capability to employ weapons of mass destruction.
      What would you say if a nuclear long range missile blew up your city? Would you be saying the same thing you just said?

      February 2, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Reply
      • Bozo The Clown

        What would you say if your parents made you do your homework and excel in school? Probably something more educated that you're saying now.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
      • Just me

        You are referring to Israel and the US, aren't you, when you're talking about threatening their neighbours? Although, in the case of US it's sort of threatening the rest of the world. The criminal fraction in charge of the west wants war, nothing more nothing less, and will continue slanting info and spreading lies and propaganda. The biggest danger to your safety is in believing this clap trap.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • uhadit

      Its just the Propaganda of the zionist isra-hell who are the masters of american christians americans need not worry

      February 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Reply
      • rick

        your argument is very non persuasive as it obviously stems from racial hatred and self pity. keep singing the muslim anthem:'woe is me, woe is me, we are our own worst enemy" and americans will take care of themselves

        February 2, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • rick

      Hypocrisy is not an issue. iran threatens a neighbor with annihilation and its theocratic rulers deny history and eulogize death in the name of religion. in addition they fund, train and support terrorism in the name of their religion including funneling insurgents into Iraq to kill americans as well as other coalition forces. arguing apples and oranges is not persuasive and merely supports the resolve of rational people to keep Nuclear weapons out of the hands of these coo coos

      February 2, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Reply
      • rees

        Funny what you are saying:

        Last time Iran invaded a country: ?
        Last time USA invaded a country: Hm, lost count.

        Iran said "they should be", not "we will".

        Try defining terorism before putting it into a sentence.

        Lets see:

        Insurgent kills americans with suicide bomb: TERRORISM

        Navy SEAL team sent to kill a "suspect": TERRORISM

        February 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
      • Just me

        Correction... it's the rabid dogs of war in Israel and US that's saying Iran is threatening their neighbours. That's war mongering.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Ajax

      Wake up sunshine. This is the real world. The USA (and the USSR) and the others with nukes have always used them as a deterrent (sad as that may be) . The current Iranian regime is (very) apocolyptic and WILL use these weapons. THAT is the difference .

      February 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Reply
  66. Fathergrabitall in Canada

    I would think that the rhetoric and threats being made by the opposing parties is merely a prelude to a preemptive military strike from either side,-obviously it appears from the language being used from the wing dings in Iran that Israel is being backed into a corner and we all know that Israel never takes a knife to a gun fight. I would think that the civilians in both countries should prepare to take extreme cover because I think its going to be a dog fight.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Reply
  67. Stu

    This is the country that is going to lunch nuclear missiles at us in Nostradamus book

    February 2, 2012 at 11:54 am | Reply
  68. Tom

    Is there some reason you need to make the events of the world appear as though we're in some Mission Impossible movie, or a video game? What's with the "Security Clearance" and cloak-and-dagger graphics? Who are you now, Fox News?

    February 2, 2012 at 11:49 am | Reply
  69. RS

    "Iran is developing a missile capable of delivering payloads up to 10,000 kilometers (6,200 miles) away"

    You mean, rather, capable of delivering payloads AT DISTANCES up to 10,000 kilometers away. I didn't know a payload was measured in distance. Come on, Flower, you can write better than that.

    February 2, 2012 at 11:28 am | Reply
  70. michaelfury

    "capable of hitting the United States"

    So it would seem.


    February 2, 2012 at 10:21 am | Reply
    • Bbboobby

      Your a nut

      February 2, 2012 at 10:56 am | Reply
    • RS

      Shameless self-promotion.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:58 am | Reply

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