On Iran, US and Israel not fully in synch
January 20th, 2012
08:09 AM ET

On Iran, US and Israel not fully in synch

By Kevin Flower reporting from Jerusalem

America's top military official began a series of high-profile meetings with Israeli leaders Friday amid growing international concerns that the Israeli government could act on its own to thwart Iran's nuclear program.

In his first trip to Israel since being named the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey appeared to downplay differences in policy between the two countries and stress U.S. – Israeli cooperation.

Meeting with his Israeli counterpart, Lt. General Benny Gantz, Dempsey said his visit reflected "the commitment we have with each other, and I'm here to assure you that's the case."

Gantz echoed the importance of cooperation between the two nations but appeared to allude to differences in policy approaches.

"I do know that both our countries share the same interests, both the same values, and I'm sure that we can somehow work it out together," Gantz told Dempsey during the course of a pre-meeting photo-op.

In a later meeting, Dempsey was told by Israeli President Shimon Peres that Israel had trust in the United States military and "that even today in a very complicated situation we can find a common ground."

Dempsey's trip, which officials on both sides would only describe as an opportunity to discuss regional security issues, comes as tensions over Iran's nuclear program have been on the rise.

The Obama administration has been pushing allies to sign on to sanctions targeting the Islamic republic's oil industry and central bank, while Iranian leaders have been issuing threats to close down the Strait of Hormuz, a critical transit point for one-fifth of the world's oil. The United States has warned Iran against such a move.

Officials in Washington hope that a tightening noose of sanctions will force Iran to abandon what the White House believes is an Iranian quest for nuclear weapons capability. Iran denies that it is seeking nuclear weapons and insists that its program is purely civilian in nature.

Dempsey's visit to Israel at this time is widely viewed as an effort by the United States to convince Israel to give sanctions more time to work and to head off any unilateral Israeli military move against Iran.

While the Israeli government has welcomed the moves for tougher non-military measures against Iran, some Israeli officials have questioned American resolve in application of the sanctions.

Sunday Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon told Israel radio, "In the U.S. administration there is hesitation for fear of oil prices rising this year, out of election-year considerations" which he described as a "disappointment" for Israel.

Later in the week Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak offered more conciliatory words saying that an Israeli decision whether to strike Iran's nuclear program was "very far off."

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    January 24, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  10. Give Peace A Chance

    Do you know why the world criticized GWB's invasion of Iraq but hasn't done so against this administration's military intervention in Libya? Well, it is simply because President Obama didn't rush to war but he worked with the UN, The European Union and Arab league to allow for a resolution to the Libyan crisis through peaceful means. But as Moammar Ghadaffi ignored calls from the world community to stop murdering his citizens who were calling for democratic reform (not regime change) the international community had no other alternative but to act.

    Furthermore, when we invaded Iraq in 2003, we invaded a country NOT at war and involved in aggression but a country that was at total peace and minding its own business when GWB and the Republican administration decided to ignore the wishes of the world community to rush to war. Recently Republican Presidential candidate Rick Santorum said if he was President he would have told Iran unless it allowed for UN inspectors into their nuclear facility, it would be bombed. Songs like the same thing GWB told Sadamm Hussein only to force UN inspectors out of Iraq prematurely to start an illegitimate war. Furthermore, I wonder if Mr. Santurum is aware that in order to sttack Iran, congress would have to get approval from the UN and the reality is the UN is not going to allow it until all means to a peaceful resolution are exhausted. Finally, my question to Mr. Santurum is if he was President and he decided to attack Iran and his actions leads to a global war, would he send his children to die for the sh*it he started? Let's face it, there is no need to rush to war or to rush to attack this facility until all other measures to a peaceful resolution have been exhausted. And if that time comes and we exhausted all measures to a peaceful resolution, I guarantee the world would be behind us 100% for military intervention.

    January 23, 2012 at 9:00 am | Reply
    • Terrible_Ted

      Israel is not going to take on Iran on its own. Granted Israel has the nuclear advantage currently, but in a conventional war much of Israel would be destroyed. Iran is a much larger country, and could absord any attack better than Israel could absord any retalitory attack.

      Posters tend to give the Israeli military to much credit. With the current availability of modern arms the military playing field has been leveled. The military advantage that Israel held in the 60's thru the 90's is gone, Iran has a huge stock pile of modern missles that could lay waste to Israel, much as Israel could do to the Iranians.

      Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) still holds true when it comes to the nuclear club. If Iran ever attacked with nuclear weapons, they would be destroyed as a country for all time. It's the Israeli lobbies in DC that are doing there best to get the USA to fight this war for them. Israel has held the nuclear advantage in the Middle East, and they don't want to give it up. If Iran develops a nuclear weapon there is nothing we or Israel can do about it.

      January 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Reply
  11. Cassandra Chu

    who cares what israel wants. they are liars and hypocrites. we need to distance ourselves from those crazies. the problem here at home is the AIPAC ties in washington.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:59 am | Reply
    • com on man

      lmao your calling them crazy.

      January 23, 2012 at 10:45 am | Reply
  12. Chuk

    At some point, the U.S has to wash its hands of Israel and make it clear it is no longer responsible for blanket protection of Israel. Let Israel go and flex its muscle and suffer the consequences. The problem has always been that Israel has gotten into its collective head that US is there to protect it no matter what. Bad idea. Let Israel get into war, sit back and see how it fares.

    In 2003, if anyone had told the U.S it would be in Iraq for almost 10 years and at a huge cost, it would not have believed it. But it has. Experience is the best teacher. Take off the training wheels and let Israel flex its muscles since it loves to fight.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:59 am | Reply
    • com on man

      I suppose you would *rather* us be friends with Iran, Syria? Common sense is dead. Quit buying the islamic propaganda against I srael. isreal does not need our help , we need isreal to be calm and not go in and destroy this plant because it would lead to a new war. we are holding isreal back not them holding us back. com on man. dont be fooled by these towel heads. if pushed isreal will make a glass desert of iran and any other towel head countrythat dare's to harm them.

      January 23, 2012 at 10:51 am | Reply
  13. GarlicEater

    Look at the photo, Did the Isreali General not know Dempsey was coming? Was he called in from the field or something? Dempsey is in full dress uniform, starched shirt, tie, has a commanding presence. General Gantz has a wrinkled shirt, no tie, open collar, T-shirt exposed, looks like a schlub. It's no fashion contest but you are representing your country here, certainly he knew he would be on camera. I can't look that sloppy at work.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:57 am | Reply
  14. Patricksday

    Caveman in Suits who dont live in 2012 but in the Stone Age of Violence and Hatred, draped of course with the cover of Religion the biggest cause of Violence on the Planet today, and the Corporate GREED also draped in Christian Religion, some how Jesus was someone who horded riches and built up his Palace of Riches like the Vatican Teaches us.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:51 am | Reply
  15. Sam

    What a surprise. The exalted leader administration is not in sync with Israel. A natiin he has repeatedly demonstrated nothing but contempt and hatred of it's leader and people.

    January 23, 2012 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • Aeromechanic

      Maybe if they didn't continually push the ragheads buttons on issue like settlements Obama would get behind them more.

      Besides what the hell is so special about Israel that we are supposed to support them unconditionally?

      January 23, 2012 at 8:49 am | Reply
      • Cryzzeee1

        Well said and I agree 100%.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:54 am |
      • shiney

        Aeromechanic, read two sources: Bible states when God promised made His promise to Abraham in the book of Genesis.. God clearly states "I will bless them that bless thee (meaning the nation of Israel) and I will curse them that curse thee (meaning the nation of Israel)." If you're not up to reading the Bible, I suggest you ger the book "As America Has Done to Israel"... it's a great read. Both books I have suggested should shed some light on your question.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:58 am |
  16. joseph

    nobody is asking for war the only thing that USA IS SAYIN is yu not yet ready to have a nuclear capability its bcoz thAT the people who govern thier government is not in thier right mind maybe in 80 years or 90 years from.

    January 22, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Reply
    • physics-lite

      Talk about OUT of Synch!

      The Atlanta Jewish Times said this.

      "Give the go-ahead for U.S. based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies."

      With Allies like Israel who needs enemies?
      It is bad enough to say that they want to suggest an assassination of the U.S. President.

      But it is even worst to say that they Could / or would
      “ FORCEFULLY DICATE .” that we help obliterate its enemies.

      To suggest an assassination of the U.S. President then forcefully dictate anything ot the U.S.

      “ FORCEFULLY DICATE .” in my mind Israel sees the U.S. as one of their enemies / or their puppets / or their Slaves.

      January 22, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Reply
      • physics-lite

        P.S. Why didn’t have a way to comment on that story?

        January 22, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
      • Dex

        That was from an editorial – not from the Israeli government – duh! It was one guy's scenario out of 3 suggestions. He doesn't speak for anyone but hiumself and he already apologiezed.

        NICE way to take out of context – are you a Republican???

        January 23, 2012 at 8:33 am |
      • Dave

        I suppose you would *rather* us be friends with Iran, Syria? Common sense is dead. Quit buying the i slamic propaganda against I srael.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:35 am |
      • daltxn

        Those comments came from the Altanta Jewish Times and were made by its owner, Andrew Adler, who was subsequently blasted publicly for said comments. He apologized and he does not represent Israel's point of view, only his own. Please don't take pieces of a different news story and place it elsewhere to simply help your own cause.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:42 am |
      • neerka

        The guy who wrote this editorial should be tried as a terrorist.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  17. chelsea

    Israel will take our money, put us in harms way for their sovereign actions and decisions but draw the line at accepting U.S. guidance or direction... NICE TRADE OFF FOR ISRAEL!!!

    January 22, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Reply
  18. Emma

    It is wrong for a weapon of such to get into the hands of terroist
    Why is it that Arab nation and related countries can't stay even one year with out war! Things that doesn't get them any where. Look at what is happen now in Nigeria.
    My advise, Iran should not allow USA and IS real to use there country as a test to morden high tech.
    When one man cook food for all, all will finish it but All cook for him, he can't finish the food ! Iran be wish and aviod dameges to your nation learne from Iraq! GO TO THE ANT learn there ways and be wise

    January 22, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Reply
    • yjacket

      Iran is not Arab, moron.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:24 am | Reply
      • Kelevin

        If Iran isn't an Araba nation, what exactly is it then?

        January 24, 2012 at 4:26 am |
  19. Skorpio

    Eliminate Muslim clerics and most of the killings around the world will drop drastically starting with the Iranian ayatollah. It makes more sense to get rid of Islamic clerics than Iranian atomic scientists, it is more dangerous the person who press the weapon' trigger than the one who builds it. The source of all hatred, terrorism, violence and discrimination lies with Islamic clerics (ayatollahs, muftis, imams, sheiks, mullahs, emyrs, etc.). These evil creatures are the main instigators of most violent actions, they are judges, witnesses, jurors, police and executioners at the same time. Unless these bast@#%s experience the same pain, suffering and anxiety as their victims, nothing is going to change.

    January 22, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
  20. Broskiy

    I will not vote for Barack Hussein Muhammed unless he stops Iran from getting nukes. But then again, he'll do anything to win an election, so I hope he wags the dog and bombs then. Save for that, it will be Mormon Mitt or the Newt.

    January 22, 2012 at 3:35 am | Reply
  21. The Rock

    I am the Rock and I will kill any obstacles in my quest to rid the world of ragheads.

    January 22, 2012 at 12:28 am | Reply
  22. p41

    It's so animated when war-general's from the US go to meet war-criminal's from israel, and beg them for permission to ask israel to keep the US in the loop.

    January 21, 2012 at 11:06 pm | Reply
    • Peres

      He is not your General,You terrorist goat lover.

      January 22, 2012 at 11:15 am | Reply
    • israel biniam

      God bless Israel and Israelis not forgetting for those who pray for the peace of Israel

      January 24, 2012 at 10:10 am | Reply
  23. Cassandra Chu

    ... we need to get the AIPAC leeches out of American Politics and send those liars back to Israel. It's time we started looking after AMERICA'S interests... which are NOT the same as Israel's. There is no point in making a billion Muslims angry by our one-sided support for those hypocrites. Our security and relationships with other MidEast nations suffer as a result of the political pandering which has occurred to this point.

    January 21, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
    • Dumba$$

      So what's your point? You want Iran to have nukes?

      January 22, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
      • neerka

        They have rights like any other country.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:47 am |
    • neerka

      That media can make Iran look like a real threat is not surprising, but that some people can believe it is stupid.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:48 am | Reply
      • PP45

        You sound like a Ron Paul dumb a$$

        January 23, 2012 at 9:05 am |
      • Kelevin

        If Iran isn't a threat, then what would you suggest that Iran is? The best neighbor on the block? What happens if/when they have nukes, will they be able to maintain positive control of them? Its not always the nation that may be a threat, but the individuals running around with an agenda for mass-genocide.

        January 24, 2012 at 4:30 am |
  24. Loyaxxx

    Gen Dumpsey has gone to tell barking Barak Ehud not to get bigger than his breeches..With 5m nation to take on
    equally war tasted 60m Iran, and pre-condition of "No Boots" who would occupy Iran. Ira has ancient history
    of asking for some heads of enemy when attacked, is Israel ready to occupy...with EU Economic eating dust, 40m jobless in US, and no money $15 T debt US and EU are tired of Israel's arrogance at neighbors..

    January 21, 2012 at 3:07 am | Reply
  25. Sanchanim

    Despite the complexities of politics, and international diplomacy it is really quite simple.
    Iran is headed down a dead end road. We know this.
    The only snyc that is being stressed by the US is how much intelligence do we need prior to an operation and where is the proverbial line in the sand to be crossed.
    For the US this moves, but I believe for Israel it is pretty firm and hasn't changed. I also believe Israel has the intelligence it needs to move today if needed. There has been a rash of arms sales, and movement with regard to things like bunker buster munitions and other items that would fit the task well for Israel to make a move.
    The US is worried that the Israelis will make a move prior to the UN getting behind any action. My guess is once again Israel will make the first move in order to preserve peace in the middle east. A nuclear armed Iran would destabilize the region. They also have a history both past and present for arming terrorist groups, which means they could also give a device, or even a dirty bomb to such a group which could have wide ranging affect. Imagine a dirty bomb going off in New York, or San Francisco. It would be horrible, and a mighty triumph for some terrorist group. This isn't just about a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv.

    January 21, 2012 at 2:20 am | Reply
    • israel biniam

      well said

      January 21, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Reply
    • glennrobertg

      Your whole take on the problem is delusional. You have a belief that Iran is suicidal. There are no facts to show this. Any attack on Iran would effect the worlds oil supplies and would make the current recession even worse. There are many things that Iran could do without attacking shipping. 1. take out Saudi Arabia's major refinery on the Persian Gulf. 2. Shoot down low level satellites and geocentric satellites causing billions of dollars of trade loss world wide. This would not make our friends happy!

      January 22, 2012 at 2:08 am | Reply
    • Dal

      How a dirty bomb going to cross Europe, and the atlantic, more precisely over 7,000 miles, from Iran to here with out been detected? Last time I checked we don't live in the Star Trek time, where one can just beam oneself or stuff.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:41 am | Reply
    • neerka

      Israel wants to cause a carnage and needs the U.S. as accomplice. A war now will destabilize all the region. The U.S. cannot commit itself to it. The U.S. has other priorities with its own citizens.

      January 23, 2012 at 8:54 am | Reply
      • Cryzzeee1


        January 23, 2012 at 9:00 am |
  26. Iranacockuptheirass

    They are for sure giving it to each other up the poop shoot...May a1000 camels take turns on your anal's with sand paper and glass afixed to their cocks as you scream for more

    January 20, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Reply
    • mevsyou

      iI am sorry could not here you over Iran wining about the straight hahahahahahahahahaha
      Iranacockuptheirass<<<<<<<<<<< this guy he so dumb

      January 21, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Reply
      • Iranacockuptheirass

        AAhh, May 5000 camels hump that potty mouth of yours until you confess of your homo tendencies you camel cock chugger.

        January 21, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  27. RagMcmuffin

    Looks like they see eye to eye to me...Their iether holding hands or playing pocket pool

    January 20, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Reply
  28. Franklin

    Countries like Iran should be tought a lesson and very soon if they dont watch how they provoke other countries, then they be given a very good lesson by the US. American forces can take on Iran without any help from any country and infact,It can take control of Iran in less than 5 hours. Irannians and thir leaders are just a bunch of terrorists that should not be let to frustrate people.!!!!!!!!!!

    January 20, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Reply
    • Essayons Et Fayssons

      wow! that is the mentality of a jarhead! people are not thinking about the wave effect that a war with Iran would cause. its just not worth it.not counting the fact that Iran will definitely have allies poping out of nowhere, which would obviously lead us to WW3.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Reply
    • Brian

      The US Govt is the problem of the world!!!!! The US govt preaches peace and "democracy", but practices assination, illegal wars (Iraq 2003-2011), and last but not least they torchure people in prisons (Guantanamo) without ever trying them for crimes for like 7+ years). Also...

      1) They butt their noses into other countries internal affairs FAR TOO often.
      2) They use the guise of "spreading democracy" (their twisted version of it), to invade a country, then occupy it, then to take the oil just like what's happening in Iraq now!!!! Sure the US military is gone from Iraq, but the Western Oil companies are now there gobbing up there shares of Iraqi oil. Do some research and you'll find this on own your own. The US media like CNN will never report that sort of stuff.
      3) They continually and slowly remove the rights of their own citizens within the USA while doing (#1) above.
      4) How would the US Govt and US citizens feel if foreign countries wanted to setup their military bases within the USA? (hint – now you know why these people are pissed off - Iraqis, Pakastanis and Afghanstani people)

      Solution – I wish war or death to no one, but I think it's time that a few brave countries with strong militaries teamed up and attacked the US mainland. If anyone has ever seen the movie from the 1980s called "Red Dawn" then you know what I am thinking about..

      January 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Reply
      • Troy

        Hey Brian, Why don't you go live in Iran and report back to us in 6 mos.

        January 21, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
      • Brian

        Why don't you go there and live yourself? I am a New Zealander and you know Iranians don't hate us down here. They only hate people like Americans (The US Govt) for meddling in their internal affairs. In fact, most of the world hates your government and people like YOU for electing these losers to their public office.

        I have lived all over the world in a wide variety of places, so why don't you try moving out of the USA and experiencing life outside of your so-called "center of the world".

        January 21, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
      • Peres

        Don't be ashemed your terrorist Iranian name you Hussein .

        January 22, 2012 at 11:25 am |
      • John "Johnny mop" Price

        Brian...moron...they hate you just as much, your obviously blind or stupid if you cant see that.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:39 am |
      • Mike

        >> 1) They butt their noses into other countries internal affairs FAR TOO often.

        And if we don't get involved, people complain that we're abandoning them. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

        >> 2) They use the guise of "spreading democracy" (their twisted version of it), to invade a country, then occupy it, then to take the oil just like what's happening in Iraq now!!!! Sure the US military is gone from Iraq, but the Western Oil companies are now there gobbing up there shares of Iraqi oil. Do some research and you'll find this on own your own. The US media like CNN will never report that sort of stuff.

        Please point to your research that indicates we're "taking" Iraqi oil. Don't evade - provide research that backs this up.

        >> 3) They continually and slowly remove the rights of their own citizens within the USA while doing (#1) above.

        This is based on your vast experience as a US citizen, I presume?

        >> 4) How would the US Govt and US citizens feel if foreign countries wanted to setup their military bases within the USA? (hint – now you know why these people are pissed off – Iraqis, Pakastanis and Afghanstani people)

        I guess we'd have to consider it if we were politically and/or militarily unstable. However, we aren't, and haven't been for a couple hundred years now. We've never demanded a Status of Forces agreement with any sovereign nation, and we've been booted out quite a few times. We might complain, but in the end we pack up and go home if we're not wanted by the legitimate government of the area. Do some research on this and get back to me.

        >> Solution – I wish war or death to no one, but I think it's time that a few brave countries with strong militaries teamed up and attacked the US mainland. If anyone has ever seen the movie from the 1980s called "Red Dawn" then you know what I am thinking about..

        Consider this is your "solution", I feel comfortable calling you a complete idiot. Thanks for playing. Enjoy waiting for Australia to tell you what to do next.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:50 am |
    • Brian

      Why don't you go for a nice hike on the Iranian border? I hear it's nice there so don't worry about crossing into Iran.. they are nice people there (Well – except to Americans whose govt is trying to steal their oil).

      PS. The people US Govt are the real global terrorists. The rest of us are sick and tired of your government's meddling in our individual internal affairs.

      January 21, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Reply
      • John "Johnny mop" Price

        I did contracting in Iran in the early 90"s and yes many friendly people, but many that hate our guts also, that includes yourself and NO Im not American. Finnish blood in these vains and Im not blinded of the truth by a hate for Americans.

        January 23, 2012 at 8:42 am |
    • glennrobertg

      Iran provokes us? Our Navy can fly planes anywhere over Iran in less than an hour and they provoke us? You are willing to attack a nation of 70,000,000 people or three time the numbers and size of Iraq? You do remember Iraq? Yes they will fight!

      January 22, 2012 at 2:16 am | Reply
    • hete

      you are an arrogant ,killer a hater you thing that war would resolve any problem you are daydreaming stop oppressing people.

      January 22, 2012 at 11:41 am | Reply
  29. Essayons Et Fayssons

    im tired of all this crap! all these people wanting to go to war just isn't right! like Ron Paul said, we need to keep our noses in our own business. we don't have the funds to start trying to provoke another war.if we go to war this country will be done! im sure more than %75 of American citizens don't want to go to war...but its probably going to happen anyway. im voting for Ron Paul, if he gets elected and shit doesn't get fixed, i think it will all be down hill from there.

    January 20, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • Brian

      Why can the USA have nuclear power plans and nuclear weapons, but countries like Iran cannot? This egotistical double standard is b.s. Why cannot the US govt just mind it's own business and fix the heaps of problems within the USA itself. In the process of minding their own business, they'd save BILLIONS of $$$$ from illegal wars they (USA) the starts.

      The day the US Govt government has a policy to NOT interfere with other countries internal affairs, is the day the world finally can begin to be a better place.

      Also, if the US Govt is keen to help people, why are they not helping the millions upon millions of starving people in Africa? Why not – well it's because there's no OIL there.

      January 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Reply
  30. eddie russo

    If us or israel attack Iran, I will say that would be the end of $3.71 per gallon, ($15.00 or $20.00 per gallons would be reasonable.

    January 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Reply
    • jamest

      I woud rather pay that much for gas than wake up each day hearing about Iran and another rant their leader is on. To bad who ever is getting their nuk sci guys cant get their leaders.....

      January 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Reply
      • JDavis

        You must ride a bike.

        January 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • bigdakine

      The US hasn't im[ported oil from Iran for decades. The Saudis and Gulf States have stated they will up their oil quotas to make up for any drop in Oils exports from IRan. Iran is in a no-win situation as they have no leverage.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Reply
  31. Voice of Reason

    Contrary to this article's undertones, I think that there is a great deal more cooperation between our two countries than is being discussed. The Mossad used to only work with the British MI6, the fact that we're sharing intelligence is a great boon on its own since you can potentially blow each other's cover in a very hostile nation. And apparently the author obviously read up (or at least commented) on joint military exercises that are scheduled for the future between the US and Israel. People don't shoot guns side by side unless they trust eachother.

    January 20, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Reply
  32. Mursal

    Simple question that every one is not asking. Why not to find out if 20% purification is required for Isotopes to treat Cancer as Iran says? If answer is yes then why to create this drama of fear fo innocent people of the world? If not then the whole world will support US and ask them to stop.

    January 20, 2012 at 10:27 am | Reply
    • JDavis

      Do you really imagine that Iran doesn't already have nukes? Even Israeli historian Martin van Creveld admits "they would be crazy" not to. So this is the big lie our government has been telling us. See here:


      The truth of the matter is that Israel has been holding us hostage by threatening to start a nuclear war that will end badly for everyone. With friends like them, we hardly need enemies.

      January 20, 2012 at 11:22 am | Reply
      • jamest

        your holding your own mind hostage

        January 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
      • Franklin

        Re- evaluate yourself when it comes to this matter.

        January 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
      • Brian

        The USA has 3000+ ICBMs (kukes), so the USA telling Iran that they cannot have any is like the pot calling the kettle black!!!!

        The USA should mind their own f..k.n business.

        January 21, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      I think one of the key issues is that some western countries offered nuclear expertise and even nuclear material to be brought into Iran but Iran said that they will have none of it, which makes many in the west severely doubt that what Iran is doing is very civilian oriented. On top of that, a country that continually has put down protesters as rebels and terrorists doesn't really spell a lot of faith for peaceful use of nuclear knowledge or capability

      January 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
    • Erik Lipscomb

      I think there is a worry that Russia And China will enter the conflict either covertly or openly, either way this changes the game..now you risk war with several nations at once instead of Iran & Syria...

      January 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Reply
      • Voice of Reason

        China doesn't have the navy or the airpower and Russia is roughly in the same boat, plus China doesn't want to piss the other Arab oil-producing countries off, hence the most recent Chinese ambassador skipping the Tehran visit when he came around just a little while ago. Out of the two militaries, i'm more concerned with Russia but at the same time, we still hold a 15 year technology lead on Russia in most areas of the military, and a 20 year lead on China if we just stopped production today. Iran has made many enemies in the past, least of all concerning the Sunni/Shia divide, and considering that Saudi Arabia is willing to let Israeli jets fly in its airspace to flatten any military-use nuclear facilities in Iran, i'd say they are up a particular creek without a paddle.

        January 20, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
      • jamest

        The U.S. has the capability to take on the world all at once. It would not look pretty we would loose many U.S. citizens on our own soil but they do not have the capability to hang with our boomers (nuclear subs) if this hurts your feelings so be it. The truth hurts

        January 20, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
      • Rob

        What Jamest says is true. The US could quite probably destroy all life using just the nuclear armed subs that are out around the globe at any given time. It's scary, but real.

        January 21, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Sanchanim

      For the reactor that they own and medical isotopes 3% to 5% is all you really need, so they are going to 20% ad beyond.

      January 21, 2012 at 2:02 am | Reply
      • Brian

        So what? The USA can have ICBMs/nukes, but Iran cannot?

        The US Govt and Hillary Clinton should STFU.

        January 21, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
      • physics-lite

        This is Physics-lite:
        I did four tours on a George Washington Class sub. In the 60s on of the first
        Boomers and all three of you are right in your posts an thing 3% to 5% would
        be used for a dirty and anything from 15% to 25% could be used as a bomb.
        Our sub had 16 ICBMs but the newer class like the TEXAS has 24 with 10
        warheads on each
        I for one is very that our sub was one that kept the peace in the cold war at
        the time.


        January 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
  33. Hahahahahahahaha

    Not in synch. Such as.........should we use the blue missle or the green one? Hahahahahahahahaha

    January 20, 2012 at 9:36 am | Reply
  34. mipolitic

    the eyes of one see things diferently than others. however when one has been threatened and attacked , this is understood universally to defend yourself or run and hide.
    well mr pres obama the choice is truly yours, which will it be?
    usa personal and assest have been attacked by covert terror opps of iran for many years , and also let us not forget the words of iran , Death to America and to the Jews.
    this is a nuke threat . it is clear to me because the running away alternative is unthinkable.

    January 20, 2012 at 8:58 am | Reply
  35. Mladen Andrijasevic

    The whole business of trying to convince Israel that there is no danger in waiting more for the sanctions against Iran to work is becoming increasingly immoral. If the US administration had presented the case taking into account the opinions of the leading scholars of Islam like Bernard Lewis or Raphael Israeli who are convinced Iran cannot be deterred, then at least the public would have been aware of the risks involved. Unfortunately we have a case of an administration oblivious to other opinions, aided by an ignorant press which never considered it necessary to inform the public of the mindset of the Iranian leadership and the realistic possibility that the basic strategic doctrine of mutually assured destruction is not applicable to Iran any more. It is hardly surprising that Netanyahu cancelled the Austere Challenge drill probably out to fears that letting Americans be involved in the decision-making about attacking Iran would be dangerous for Israel.

    Our two countries do share the same interests and values but all the empirical evidence shows that Obama does not. If this were not an existential question for Israel the checks and balances inherent in the American political system would eventually take care of that, but with the doctrine of mutual assured destruction ineffective with regards to Iran, Israel just cannot afford to rely on someone as unreliable as Obama and Israel has to make its own decisions. MAD is Dead http://www.madisdead.blogspot.com/

    January 20, 2012 at 8:53 am | Reply
    • mipolitic

      yes you are right , the mutal destuction result has no effect on mad men . that is the strength of the iranian threat is that they believe god is supporting them and will reward them for their final act against israel.

      does this sound familiar to other attacks of the past? perhaps 9/11.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:12 am | Reply
      • JDavis

        Madmen? Look up the "Samson Option" and see who are the madmen. As David Perlmutter says, "What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter [brought about by Israel's Samson Option]. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away–unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans–have the power to destroy the world."

        January 20, 2012 at 9:40 am |
      • michaelfury

        "does this sound familiar to other attacks of the past? perhaps 9/11"

        Yes, perhaps 9/11.


        January 20, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • Rob S

      We do not share all of the same values and interests as Israel. In fact, the Zionism and religious discrimination that Israel is founded upon is utterly illegal in the United States, and that is a big foundation upon which the US was built.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:44 am | Reply
      • bigdakine

        Except that Israel has freedom of religion and the Bahai's have their world headqauers in Haifa. You have confused Israel with its neighbors. Try again.

        January 20, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      While I agree that Israel is entirely entitled to it's own opinion and course of action regarding its own security, i disagree that the Obama administration has been ignorant of the crisis in Iran. If you look at what the policy change in military since he came to office (Larger military emphasis on special forces, many times the Predator and Reaper strikes of the previous administration, broadening the scope of the Intelligence field to include countries outside the immediate vicinity of Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.) I believe that what we are seeing is a softer and more scalpel-like approach to the crisis. And with former President Bush authorizing special forces operations in Iran in 2009 and the Stuxnet and subsequent intelligence gathering Duqu virus, I'm guessing that the administration knows much more than it is going to let on. If that isn't proof enough, the fact that Ehud Barack doesn't seem to be getting uppity about it is a sign that the Mossad and Sayaret Matkal have a good idea what's going on inside Iran. And let not forget that Israel flattened Syria's nuclear facility when they deemed it a threat, so i trust Israeli judgement on this one.

      January 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Reply
    • russ

      They probably canceled the drill because the actual real strike is coming before the drill

      January 23, 2012 at 8:34 am | Reply
  36. JDavis

    This all seems so backwards, like Alice in Wonderland. Why isn't Dempsey visiting Iran to discuss their concerns over Israel's nuclear program?

    January 20, 2012 at 8:43 am | Reply
    • michaelfury

      This is why:


      January 20, 2012 at 10:55 am | Reply
      • Voice of Reason

        This is why, [come look at my blog and subscribe mwahahahahaha]

        January 20, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • jamest

      They are not a hateful A$$ed nation like Iran is nor as Ignorant as Irans leader. They need to strap his A$$ on a donkey and send him off into the deserts sunset.

      January 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Reply

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