Iran's Underground Uranium Project
by Suzanne Kelly
Iran's announcement that it has begun enriching uranium at an underground facility doesn't come as a surprise to nuclear security experts, but it does worry them that the program moves Tehran one step closer to developing a nuclear weapon.
"They announced last summer that they were going to do this," said David Albright, president of the non-profit Institute for Science and International Security in Washington. "It's part of this gradual process that I think shows Iran is on their way to developing nuclear weapons."
Iran says some 3,000 centrifuges are in operation at Qom, with an additional 8,000 machines capable of enriching uranium at its Natanz facility.
Right now, Iran is enriching uranium at a lower rate than would be needed for a nuclear weapon.
Tehran has said that its uranium enrichment efforts are tied to efforts to provide medical assistance to cancer patients. But that argument is a hard sell in the West, where a report issued by the International Atomic Energy Agency said that the Iranian government was developing technology that would be necessary for manufacturing a nuclear weapon.
The IAEA noted in a report last November that Iran had informed the agency more than two years earlier that the Fordo plant was under construction in the mountainous region of Qom province.
The plant is buried deep underground and deemed immune to an aerial attack, suggesting to some that Tehran is taking a strongarm approach in its refusal to bow to expanded sanctions, including sanctions aimed at Iran's central bank announced by the Obama administration just last month.
There has been no official response from the Israeli government, which was believed to be behind an aerial attack on a Syrian nuclear facility in 2007. Today, Israeli experts are calling for a diplomatic approach.
"This could be a cause of concern for Israel because the area of this site is so difficult to attack. If one day, Iran decides to cut its cooperation with the IAEA, it would make it easier to use such a site to make a bomb, but it's in the long term," said Meir Javedanfar, an analyst and lecturer on Iranian issues at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel. "In the short term, I don't think Israel has too much to worry about because the site is still under inspection. In the long term, if things go wrong with Iran it could turn into a serious problem."
Western nuclear experts say it will take time for Iran to be able to produce weapon-grade uranium at Qom.
"I believe it will be one to three more years before they would have the capability" Albright said.
Some in the West hope they can be delayed.
Sanctions are one way the Obama administration has tried to squeeze Tehran, making it harder for Iranians to acquire the vital goods needed for their nuclear program. If sanctions don't work, experts point to efforts like cyberattacks and sabotage as other viable options intended to slow Tehran's nuclear development.
A computer virus known as Stuxnet effectively set back Iran's nuclear program in 2010 by launching a malware program that went undetected until damage to an Iranian nuclear facility had already been done.
Experts like Albright estimate that even if Iran were to continue to ratchet up the rhetoric and one day go so far as to kick out inspectors, it would still take six or seven months to manufacture weapons-grade uranium at its Natanz facility.
"The clock is ticking," Albright said. "So methods to bring Iran to the negotiating table to make concessions are all the more important now."
CNN's Kevin Flower contributed to this report
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I'm sick of the hypocritical and biased American media's attempts to malign Iran as an "evil terrorist country". After all Iran hasn't attacked any other country for hundreds of years and there is no proof that it is going to in the future. On the other hand, almost all wars in recent history have been initiated by the US and her allies. If any country deserves the tag of an "evil terrorist country", it is the US. By the way, an Iranian nuclear scientist was killed in a car bomb blast just today which is clearly the work of Israeli and/or American spies. But I guess we won't be hearing about these atrocities in the hypocritical and biased American media.
"After all Iran hasn't attacked any other country for hundreds of years and there is no proof that it is going to in the future. On the other hand, almost all wars in recent history have been initiated by the US and her allies." The key thought is right there, in front of anyone's eyes, it does not take a mathematician to see this simple truth.
Hey there Indiasux...where ya been?
Ladies and gentlemen do unto others as you would have them do unto you we all claim to b so smart but we r to stupid to understand such a simple concept every man and woman on this planet r exactly the same we eat the same way sleep the same way mate the same way we r all the same just different skin color every human being has the right to feel safe from being melted into the earth a bomb is not humane in any way shape form or fashion i can only pray that god will have mercy on all of our souls bcuz if we dont change r way of thinking towards each other we will surely destroy our planet and all that lives in it or could have lived in it that includes your children and there children and there childrens children and there childrens children and so on r we that selfish that we will ruin it for our future i guess we will soon find out. wake up world, one love
Let's look at Iran's history: Starting in the late 1700's Russia forcibly takes 1/3 of their land. 1900's England gets control of their oil. 1941 England says Iran getting "chummy" with Nazi's and invades the country...USA and Britain occupy Iran during WW2. At the behest of England (for the oil), the USA conducts operation Ajax in 1953, the first time the USA overthrows a democratically elected government. 1979 Iran overthrows the Shah, a USA placed dictator. 1980 Saddam Hussein invades Iran. After the Iranians start to win, the USA provides Saddam Hussein with Intelligence, weapons,and strategy. 1980's to present..sanctions by the world weaken Iran. Their infrastructure is 3rd world, they are short of food, medicine, technology. After all that who wouldn't want to get a hold of nukes??
The US needs to just back Off from the rest of the world you guys have enough problems in your own country to fix without getting involved in what everyone else is doin, but i guess if there is a way to secure more resources/money for the People that actually control your country.... Mmmm money money. Im not surprised that even the british, the australians, and wait pretty much every country is getting sick of US Brainwashed attitudes and what your so called leaders tell you to belive. Look outside the box.
There are many of us that know our country is corrupt, however EVERY country is. We tend to catch the headlines though because we are number one, and yea that is our fault for waking up and pissing excellence every day, but it is just so damned great ya know. Anyhow the fact is no one, (especially an unstable country like Iran) should have WMDs. Yea, we most likely blew up our own towers ( obviously towers down fall straight down the way it did, when hit by planes ) for political reasons, but you will be kissing our asses the day we have to come in and stop Iran's projects. Sorry we arn't Pu$$ies like all the other countries that would rather sit back and let America do it all and take all the blame.
this is just more jewbagging speculation by jewbag cnn disguising innuendo as journalism.
don't worry mullah the jewbags will be bombing your ass back to the 14th century where you crappy sharia law makes sense.
this is just more jewbagging speculation by the jewbag cnn disguising innuendo as journalism.
The fact is terrorists attack anyone and anything, not only the US. They kill their own people and themselves. They should never be anywhere near obtaining any form of nuclear weapons. It isn't just a US problem, it's a global problem that involves everyone.
You'll know when Iran has nukes when Tel Aviv disappears under a mushroom cloud.
Wipe Iran`s leaders out of power.....Idiots been in since 1979 for god sakes...Enough already...
Forget about blocking their Oil Exports. Cut off their Refined Fuel imports and their people will do the rest... Remember, Iran exports oil, but they also Import nearly all their refined fuel, gas, diesel, heating fuel. They simply don't have the infrastructure to refine their own oil.
Yes, Iran maybe seeking a nuclear deterrent to ward off what is perceived as continuous western aggression. Take a map and use a crayon to mark country borders and dates over the last 200 years in which the west has attacked/expanded into Middle Eastern countries. Now you decide if this is a rational endeavor. .
Don't believe what you see on the news, it's all Propaganda. Designed to keep you happy. Please tell the truth CNN.
I'm sick of the hypocritical and biased American media's attempts to malign Iran as an "evil terrorist country". After all Iran hasn't attacked any other country for hundreds of years and there is no proof that it is going to in the future. On the other hand, almost all wars in recent history have been initiated by the US and her allies. If any country deserves the tag of an "evil terrorist country", it is the US.
I'm even more sick of Chinese imposters making super obvious false flag posts.
ahhh the return of the India guy, where have you been my friend??
What makes anyone think that Iran doesn't ALREADY have Nuclear weapons? A nation like Iran wouldn't continually make threats against much more powerful nations without some sense that they can put up a fight. If they don't have working Nukes, they likely have Iraq's missing chemical WMD that were never found. Then again, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes that he is the lost profet, the Madhi. Anything he can do to bring about the end of days more quickly, brings his followers closer to heaven. (or so he believes)..
Leave Michele Bachmann out of this !
Missing WMD's really? OMG.
They went somewhere.. If it wasn't Iran, then they are in Syria. I figure that if Sadam sent his airforce to Iran for safe-keeping, why not his WMD...
You mean the WMD capabilities that Americans originally sold and supplied to Iraq ? They were destroyed. Or do you mean the nuclear program capability of Iran that was originally approved of and supported by the USA ? Do not be played by those who bank on a lack of public awareness. Time to hit the history books.
6 to 7 months is too close. They need to be stopped.
"Experts like Albright estimate that even if Iran were to continue to ratchet up the rhetoric and one day go so far as to kick out inspectors, it would still take six or seven months to manufacture weapons-grade uranium at its Natanz facility."
Dismantle their 2 Nuclear facilities, missiles sites, shipyard site, warplane sites while they are asleep. Covert.
This picture proves nothing. I bet if we minded our own business we wouldn't have as many problems. Every country has problems and I'll bet the farm you'd be upset if another country invaded us to help us "fix" our problems.
All of the things in the article assume that Iran does not have any other enrichment facilities and that the rate and level of enrichment does not change. Anywhere from less than a year to 5 years is what I estimate.
YahooSubrain: I'm not in a trailer, but you're in a fantasy camp. Perhaps, your support of Iran will lead you to be another homicide bomber. Good luck, take a long walk off a short pier., and don't burp too loud.
AL999: I am not a Iranian, but I am not a Baby child either. Iran's Nukes will send you another Homocide or will Protect you from Homocide Bomber?
It will only save World from Having another War on innocent people like Iraq , Afghanistan, Libya and now ...... Syria.
also do you really think that if Iran didnt have Nukes already, US and your favriot Israel hadn't attacked on another peceful nation so far?
if you are really interested to Save you from Homocide bomber then protect US/Israel from having Nukes. Everythink will be fine........ We all need to grow up now, ofcourse we are not Naive babies ducussing world issues.
You are Not naive so you profess that Syria Afghanistan Iran etc etc were or are peacful countries??....You are kidding right or are you just defending your fellow muslims at any cost?....Because many muslims are dying everyday at the hand of murderers/fellow muslims in Syria and Iran!!
my friend IceJackal, I wish you could see the thinks in little more depth and you were not supporting your felow countries / people.
Who is real terrorist those who got attacked/ had thier women/childern killed by US or those who killed them?
for GOD SAKE ................ Are we blind, deaf living in this world?
and also all these countries became un-peceful countries all of sudden and US / Israel had to execute the POST-911 Plane?
AbsurdCan: Your rants are virtually incoherent. Either take your English lessons more seriously or use Arabic, which seems to be your native tongue. Regardless, if you think Iran is a rational, reasonable country which does not disenfranchise its own citizens with sham elections and does not threaten the world by boasting about closing the Strait of Hormuz, then you are delirious and in line with your rants. Moreover, the US, EU, Russia and much of the rest of the world is in agreement about reprimanding and applying more strict economic sanctions on Iran. Is the rest of the world out of touch... or is it just you.
Spoken in engrish by a true islamic crazyman.
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Personally, I wish we'd bomb Iran back to the Stone Ages where they belong. I hope the war starts fairly soon, so we can turn our attention to North Korea and the other rogue 3rd world piddly nations in the middle east.
You more sound like Voice of shit, trying to save your Ass from Iranian Bomb. By the way If War starts fairly soon as you wish, I can guarantee you .... The results will be very unpredictable.
And you wonder why Iran wants a Nuclear deterrent ?
Lets just attack them and get it over.
AL999: I still strongly believe that you need growup a little. What Iran does inside Iran,......... Is t really your business??? goto Africa help them who fight, die with hunger everyday. If iran doesnt treat its citizens well how many countries do? If they plan/tell to block oil passage through Strait of Hormuz, WHY they had to say that?
in US there is highest ratio of Extrimists and Criminals fix them first then look around, Talk with Logic and sense makes others convinced my Naive friend
AL999: I still strongly believe that you need growup a little. What Iran does inside Iran,......... Is t really your business??? goto Africa help them who fight, die with hunger everyday. If iran doesnt treat its citizens well how many countries do? If they plan/tell to block oil passage through Strait of Hormuz, WHY they had to say that?
in US there is highest ratio of Extrimists and Criminals fix them first then look around, Talk with Logic and sense makes others convinced my Naive friend
The issue with Iran's "nukes", is that Iran will sell/gibe them to the terroists ie, like Pakistan help N. Korea and Iran. Its like a cancer, where is spreads no knows, but this is a good place to slow it or stop it. I can just see Iran help their buddy Chaves, the there will be "nukes" in South America.
Basically, Iran is not a 'responsible' country that knows how to safe guard their "nukes" and wants to blow Isreal of the face of the earth, which will never happen. But, then there are other countries that Iran is not favored in, like Saudi Arabia.
Iran MUST have nukes! To tone down Israhell!
It is for exactly that reason that Iran should not have nuclear weapons. Because it cannot control their use with nefarious clients like Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, and other terrorist groups, which Iran currently supports.
Idiot!Iran has very different ideology than Hamas/Taliban/Al Qaida. Get outta your trailer sometimes, you trash!
Israel must have nukes to keep radical Islamics like yourself in check!!
If so then first stop US to stop attacking/threatening other countries, i.e. \iran did they have |Nukes ? Afghan? Lybia??
so Iran have to have nukes to protect thier lan from BAD EVIL. now they sell it to someone , who is responsible .......... Iran or US/Isael? .......... Think my friend , Just think
Long Live Iran are you one of those women beater who go around measuring if a woman is showing too much ankle. The infamous religious police? Long live Iran?....Thats why so many young people in recent years are out in the streets of Tehran wanting a free society from Amandinfool!!
Long Live Iran?....Thats why so many Iranian expats who live in the west say they are from Persia because they are ashamed to be associated as Iranians!!!!
Learn english not engrish you stooge
Israhell is the only country that keeps fighting with everybody . its like mad rabid dog..... Nuke ISREAHELL!
Your are either a child or a wild, out of control halaria. Better to remain silent than to show all others your stupidity. Hope that stupidity doesn't hurt too much.
You say Israel is the rabbid dog?...Yet you say Nuke them?..Exactly what Amadinedumb preaches!!...Your are the classic raddical advocate peace on one hand and stab the person with the other!!
NUKE IRAN.....DO THE WORLD A FAVOR!
Hey its Israel,and its where Jesus the Son of the living God was born you jackwagon.
You so need to learn how to spell.
sooner the better, it will actually prevent a war if they get them.
Why every body talks about Iran these days?
Is it fear or Jealousy from its growing power?
Hardly fear or Jealousy..More like bewilderment how Iran can be that Stupid naive!!!
Iran ....remember 444 days around 1980? Some of us remember, some of us remember our Embassy being stormed and our staff being held hostage for over a year. Do you really believe America is dead or asleep or has forgotten? There will come a time when you push a too far and the day of Reckoning will be at hand ....the US will smack your a** flat and you won't get up again ...EVER! So enjoy your little games now ...your days are numbered.
No it will create an Arms Race the Saudis and Turks have already publicly said if Iran gets them so will they and so the story goes on!!...The real wild card in this whole Mid East Scenario with Iran-Syria-Hizbolah AXIS is The Russians parking their Aircraft Carrier off the Syrians coast how far are they prepared to defend The Syrians and Iranians? Will they engage the IDF and US Navy??If Putin is that Nuts then get your friggin civil defence hat!!
I Believe that this is Just American propaganda OR Americanize propaganda about Iran. If so then First Stop Israel from Keeping Nueks and Attacking Neibouring Counties. Iran has Complete Right and Need to be Strong Neuclear Power which they are already....... They explain you or not ........ Different Story my baby friend
Unfortunatly it is stated Russia will attack IIsrael in the Bible very soon. 😦
Liberals created Nuclear Proliferation when they gave, for free, the Atomic Bomb secrets to their liberal Russian buddies.
I say we f*** them before they f*** us. Just sayin...
for somany years the media reported that ira n is very close to a nuclear bomb. I think the rejime hasnt deided to make a bomb yet but they are very close to it how close is anydody guess. This is a very seretive rejime possibly secnd to north korea.
I think the biggest worry is that they are expanding on their uranium enrichment and being defiant and belligerent towards everyone else. They signed an NPA and re-affirmed it in 2003 yet turned right around and broke the promise so they are in violation. Israel never signed an NPA and they are allies of the west and EU.
Israel was formed in 1947 by the UN under their leadership. The Palestinians are disliked by most of the Arab world. Jordan might be the only state that even tolerates them at all.
Israel never took land, in fact they have lost quite a bit over the years in the name of peace.
The EU is creating their own sanctions against Iran, the US is helping to lead the sanctions against Iran through the UN. Additionally the Arab league is getting pretty nervous about Iran and is already taking action against Syria.
I am more worried about higher grade uranium falling into groups hands that could be used as a dirty bomb. Sure a mushroom cloud over any city is a bad thing but a dirty bomb can be pretty bad as well.
The other issue would be if they did create warheads, who's to say one of them wouldn't fall accidentally into the wrong hands? Now you have a nuke floating around somewhere and no one knows who or how it will show up.
Zionist warhawk you are.
Search Youtube for Ron Paul Iran. Let's not create another Iraq. What a crock.
My Friend they are not close to make Atomic Bomb, THEY HAVR IT and Can USE ANY TIME THEY WANT. By he way........
Why every body talks about Iran these days?
Is it fear or Jealousy from its growing power?
I don't fear people who are 6th century minded and blinded by Islamic bullshit.P.S mohammed was a pedophiliac scumbag(my opinion).
I can assure you that Iran has no nukes. I can also assure you that Iran is not united, and internally they will collapse. Their methods of how they are continuing their nuclear programs in secret will find more sanctions and possibly military action to be carried out against them.
It all the parties invovle come to negotiation table, we dont want world war three
there wil be no ww3 with nuclear weapons. mutual destruction is assured.
Problem. MAD assumes 2 things: 1. That you can identify the responsible party, which you can't in the case of a terrorist style attack. 2. That the other party fears destruction. You can't assume that if the other party is nuts.
Pakistan did this a decade ago, so it's no big technical deal for Iran. Iran will have the bomb any second now.
pakistan, iran, and israel must be dissarmed of all nuclear material! india has nukes but they can be trusted unlike the others.
SNAKE, Just like you name you look more Hindu they Human.
Remove Pakistan from you kind list, and Add Indian (The most Cowerd and Hidden snake)
More likely Iran already has compnent ready to assemble nuclear device and .want an excuse to leave orgnization in her way to become nuclear power.
The United States Of America is the best country in the world and i sure ass hell don't want to see Iran get nuclear weapons and thats all i can say
Not much can be expected from gentile slave of his soul, desire.
I can't wait for China to waste you Americans, and within 1 generation too!
Sam,
That's hilarious, and a really stupid comment to boot, the Chinese aren't even close to us, they just launched their 1st Aircraft carrier, they can't even project their military, the US is lightyears ahead of them militarily, and economically, even if they eventually eclipse our economic standing in the world, They have over 1.5 billion people in their country, we have 300 Million. They would have to have an economy 5 times larger than our own to be at the same level that we are when you're talking money to people. Many of the Chinese people still live without running water, electricity, shoot, some of them haven't even seen a Computer in their lifetime. As much as you want the US to fall, it's not going to happen. China is a dependent on us not a competitor, They can't even feed their own people without imports. The breadbasket of the world is located in the US... we sell China Rice for craps sake... you need to learn from someone other than your ideologically psychopathic preachers you trust so much.
Clinton sounds a bit insecure...
Ron – Please enlighten me, where exactly do i seem insecure? I'm pointing out facts to an idiot that suggests China will kill all of us within a generation.
yea, that's why your professors and engineers are chinese, who by the way take leaves here to go back to china, contributing. boy keep talking like this and your country will collapse. US educational system is sinking way deep, and the instructors at the so called top schools are foreigners that should be a news flash. one thing is for sure, it will not take light years for the chinese to surpass the americans. This is very true, on average, the chinese are smarter than the americans.
It wont be china wasting us.It will be the moneyloving US govt.
Iran will get their bomb, either themselves within about 2 years, or hand-delivered from Russia, China, Pakistan or North Korea. The sanctions will sting, but won't set them back significantly. Espionage and sabotage have hardly done much, like that Stuxtnet virus, which only damaged some of their centrifuges. They will be more prepared for those things anyway. And I doubt the CIA or Mossad can no longer penetrate either.
This story is a planted story. In fact, Iran has no nuclear weapons. This has been shown in report after report by the United Nations and the Central Intelligence Agency who have also indicated they are not shown to be enriching uranium either. Even so, they have no delivery capabilties (you have to fly the bomb somehow). This story is a planted one by people who want the USA to have another war. We are currently in Iraq (still 17,000 trioops, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Central Africa, Yemen among others. And now both War Parties are beating the war drum. If you truly support the USA, and our troops do not let the military industrial complex drive us into another trillion dollar war. We no longer have the $$$.
Washington is in a lobbyist frenzy as war makes money for Ratheon, Lockheed and General Electric Among others.
We dont need to rob social security for another war, write your congressman and get involved. Dont support war mongers.
antiwar.com/radio/
http://www.juancole.com
http://www.atimes.com
Iran itself admits to enriching. While I agree that this story is being fed to us at this time for a specific reason, they themselves have just admitted that they are enriching.
Only a madman, would use a nuke at this stage! The global damage would be the final nail in the coffin for Earth! If one goes off, you can damn well bet there will be more! So go ahead, light em up, and you can kiss this planet goodbye...a slow horrible death for all who inhabit it. Dont believe me, do some real research, and find out. Oil, Black Gold, TEXAS tea!!!!!!!
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Uranium enrichment is a noisy, high vibration process. If they put a facility like that underground, there will clearly be detectable seismic activity.
But uranium enrichment is a start, it's not like you enrich uranium and poof it equals a bomb.
You stupid Americans are living up to your stereotype. Thanks to the illegal sanctions, many, many more people are now united with Ahmadinejad's policies and strategies. Most people had a mild dislike of the US, but now the entire country hates you, so they are with him. Attack our lands and we will fight you until the last man, woman, and child is no longer standing. I hope Russia or China comes to help, and hands you your asse*. He will win the next election without having to rig a single vote, and deliver us our nuclear weoponry that we have every right to possess. Imperialist bastards.
Iran= 1 bomb like an annoying fly harrassing a camel
Usa= 19000 bombs like the camels tail swats away the fly
Reza,
WE stupid Americans are trying to avert a nuclear Holocaust in the middle East you moron. We have watched the middle East for years fight on and on and on with eachother, different tribes, different religions, same religion different view points whatever, this region of the world is so volatile and barbaric that we're forced to get involved when maniacle idiots like Ahmadenijad try to develop a weapon of mass distruction, you simply don't have the intelligence to have that kind of power, you're so stupid you'll nuke somebody over some bull@!#$ then we got to spend the next 100 years trying to save your radioactive grandchildren. IF you didn't have such an AS%backward society we would not feel the need to intervene. As for your "we'll defend our land to the bitter end, every man woman and child statement" That kind of rhetoric sounds good until missles are raining down all around you. Russia, China, Any other country in the world isn't going to come to your aid and even if they did we'd wipe them off the map if we wanted to. oh hey by the way, your welcome for the internet we invented and you use to try and bash our country. Go try and say something bad about your Government.... oh wait, you'd be beheaded for speaking out of turn, your country is so backward, You've been around THOUSANDS of years longer than the US and half your stupid country doesn't even have working toilets... you're filth, go work on that instead of shaking your fists at a Giant that could simply flick you aside if it so chooses.
Clinton, the tone of your reply is exactly why the whole planet (justifiably) hates the USA.
Ashley..the world envies the usa and that envy manifests itself as hate. Go back to psyc 101 and learn about it
The world doesn't envy the USA. Americans think it does. That's what you're taught i guess, in school and through media and TV. Many countries now are free and stable, economically and socially. Your attitude is no different from Clinton's in a way.
Parm...like I said psych 101 would be a good read for u, fundamental ... kinda like baby steps
Ashley – My response is warranted considering the idiot I responded to called us ignorant and our sanctions illegal despite them being approved by the UN, also his statement about hoping 2 foreign powers annihilating us... how about pondering this before you go on a rant defending Iranians and their ways... if you were to speak against me in their country, i would have the right to beat you publicly. If you were raped, you would be punished for infedility. You can't walk in public without a male family member and you basically have no rights... now go on defending that kind of culture, by all means if you like it so much, go ahead and move there... oh wait, Iran is currently arresting and sentencing westerners to death for crossing their borders.
As for you Parm – I ask you if the rest of the world doesn't envy and hate the US, why is it stealing our technology and trying to kill our people with it? Don't like the US? Don't use computers or the internet because we made that for ya so you could hop on here and insult us ... thanks!
Parm...those countries that are free and stable are that way because of Russia, china,Germany or Cuba? Which one of those countries fostered that freedom a and stability, which one would come to your aid or defense..who's there first when a natural disagree occurs
Call Iran north Korea or maybe Uganda will help u
Clinton, I wish you could read your comments through my eyes. If you had,you would not be calling anyone an idiot. For you are a poster child of all idiots of the world,who cheer violence and encourage divisions in this world. You need to see this world with no borders. Stop your false mucho patriotism. Stop being a mouth piece of those that are in power and those that benefit from all these b.s. Judging from your comments,you seem to be one of those people that consider themselves educated and are actually just full of information that were fed to you by those very same peple in power,through Fox tv and many other ways of communications they have for you and your likes(idiots who repeat what they are told) .
Yosaryan – I can't read my words through your eyes, and i'm glad i can't because you seem to read things very incorrectly. I don't want War, unlike many of you i've actually been in one, it sucks, and nobody really wins, I've witnessed death, hardship, violence and anguish first hand, i hate it. If there's one thing in this world that i hate it's violence, but i understand that it's not a perfect world and violence is still used as a tool for people to get what they want. I'm not for war with Iran, nor have i ever asked for it. In fact, i never said anything of the sort and i'd love for you to show me where i advocated war. I simply don't want to hear people from foreign countries try to say how terrible and evil my Country and it's people are. I'm not going to listen to people from backwards societies that still kill for no reason, torture for no reason and subjugate their people for no reason other than power. That is the group we're dealing with. A country that still violates basic human rights. If you're okay with that, i don't know what to say except i pity you and your ignorance.
Dear Clinton,
How about before going on a rant against 'backwards' and 'mad' iranians you looked at history ?
What country has Iran attacked since 1979 ? None. NOT A SINGLE COUNTRY ATTACKED BY IRAN
How many countries were attacked by the US since 1979 ? Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Sudan, Lybia (I'm only counting the non-UN sanctioned ones here)
Added to that :
– The US helped overthrow a DEMCROTICALLY ELECTED iranian government in the 50's
– The US helped Saddam Hussein invade Iran in 1980
– The US keeps talking of regime change in Iran
– The US downed an iranian civilian airliner
...
So tell me, which country is the dangerous one here ? Which one is violating international law on an almost daily basis ?
It's not Iran, it's your so-called 'best country in the world'. A country that only believes in freedom and justice when it suits its interests, and does not hesitate to kill, maim, kidnapp, ... when it feels like it.
So F**K OFF with your pro-american ranting. Go look at a mirror, go read about history, and APOLOGIZE to the rest of the world for the US behavior before you go and start giving lessons to other countries.
Some of the stereotypes about American attitudes stem from our government having been hijacked by warmongering, profiteering neocons who are supported by the same greedy forces that control much of our mass media (like CNN).
Many of those of us in the USA who believe in not screwing around with other countries are supporting Ron Paul in his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination.
Steven,
Your response is laughable and incredibly idiotic.
First off, what country's has Iran attacked? You want a history lesson stooge? Since 1979 Here are the conflicts Iran has been involved in:
first off 1970-1980 – Kurdish rebellion – during the Islamic revolution in Iran to overthrow the Shah, the Kurds tried to break away, Khameini sent in the Army and Revolutionary guard and killed an estimated 10,000 Kurds.
1970-1980: Iranian seizure of Gulf Islands – Iran occupied several Persian Gulf Islands claimed by the UAE
1979-1981: Iran took hostages in our embassy in Tehran – you should know about that one.
1980's – present: Iran's proxy war with Israel – Iran openly provides arms and support to Hamas and Hezzbollah
1998 – PEJAK rebellion – The Party for a Free Life in Iranian Kurdistan (PEJAK) is a Kurdish guerrilla force fighting for freedom from Iran.
2003 – Present – Iran's proxy war with the United States forces in Iraq and Afghanistan – It has been discovered that elements within Iran have supported and are supporting radical elements opposed to US forces in Iraq in Afghanistan, supplying Arms and Materials to terrorists, Ever heard of an EFP? That's an Iranian made IED that is sophisticated enough to take out larger armored vehicles... to kill US Servicemen and women.
Now that you've had your history lesson you dunce. I could go on and note how flawed your accusations are but i think the fact that you failed to recognize all the armed conflicts Iran has been involved in kind of proves the point that you're only looking at this from one side.
The Iranian Regime is crazy, they are lead by a madman bent on dominating a region of the world that has enough problems as it is, this is akin to allowing the inmates at an insane asylum to carry weapons...
Your flawed opinion of the US is so typical these days, typical that is for idiots who don't do their research and are bent on hating the US... So how bout you GO !@#$ off as you asked me to, because i just destroyed your argument you nitwit.
Reza if Americans are so dumb why do you read their news.Lool. Just read Fars or should I say Farce there is a trustworthy source..NOT! On a big side note you call Americans bullies. Its not Americans threatening to block Hormuz, its not Americans constantly threatening to blow up a neighboring country, Its not Americans having a proxy war via Hamas and Hezbolah against Israel!...Its Iran! You shoot your mouth off too many times its time the World slap your face off!!
while american politicians and "intelligent" agencies are peacefully sipping tea and singing kumbaya with the rest of the world.
dear douche,
1. europe is imposing the sanctions because frankly, like North Korea, NO ONE wants you to have nuclear weapons. why? because you have proven time and time again that you lack the fundamental stability and restraint to responsibly possess nuclear bombs. You use the term as if it is a mere toy, forgetting that its sole purpose is to kill thousands, if not millions of people in one fell swoop... your intent to build said weapons, despite the world explicitly telling you not to, is a representation of your true desires.
Meanwhile, the two largest nuclear superpowers, Russia and the USA, have been working to DE-NUCLEARIZE our arsenals because we understand that mutually assured destruction is a lose-lose scenario. Get with the program.
Talk about stability and restraint?! American hypocrisy at its best. How many millions have died because of illegal American pre-emptive military incursions throughout the world? Invading Iraq and turning it into the hell hole it is now, because a moron Texan you voted for TWICE fooled you all into thinking there was nuclear weapons there. And that's just one example of many.
funny because I knew someone would try to being that up. the iraqi death toll was large (NOT in the millions however, but 100-200 thousand, which is FAR LESS than the number killed by saddam hussein), and if you knew two sh*ts you'd understand that the american people generally were against the iraq invasion.
the fact remains that we have shown TREMENDOUS restraint concerning our nuclear capabilities, despite many, many close encounters. You don't hear our presidents publicly calling for the annihilation of an entire people, and it is crap like that which makes the rest of the WORLD (and not just the US) sweat at the thought of a nuke in Iran's hands.
Ed,
First off you are stupid. Second, you're telling lies and using misinformed statistics that aren't even close to accurate to try and make a point.. I was deployed to Iraq, i went in 6 months after the initial invasion. There was never even close to 1 million people killed in that war. In a country that small it'd be impossible to hide that from the world. Also, i can tell you, in many of the places the war never even touched, the place was a hell hole when we got there, and it was a hell hole created by an evil dictator named Saddam Hussein, a man that used Chemical warfare on his own people and gassed villages, and i know this because i've been to this country you dip!@#$ .... lastly, as a Soldier, i don't give a !@#$ what you say, the US Government that was elected by the people of this country meaning you too dipwad, sent us to Iraq. Also, We rebuilt that country big time, to a level that much of that country's infrastructure is better than it ever was. So quit US bashing moron and get your head out of your @#$ learn something about the world and what we're dealing with instead of keeping your head in the sand and thinking all the other societies out there are just like us.
Reza perhaps your people will get the weopahns as you say! Amandinedumb is dumb enough to use them, USA will have to take a number. Because first the IDF will obliterate you back to The Achaemenid Empire!. Then the Saudis will kick your ass back to the Stone age for ruining their country with Nuclear Fallout. So then after your people are bruised and bleeding look out your windows because remember winds go West to East so here comes the FALLOUT baby!..You wont need to cover your heads as you wont have hair and will look like men!....Loool!
LMAO! You are delusional. Your lousy country is the size of our state of Texas.
Listen you picnic table clothed moron...i have two sons in your silly mid eastern countries and as they would say" Make my day start something". China and Russia do not equate a pimple on our armed forces asses and i say, blow all you folks up, period...end of your stupid story! It is a shame there are decent law bidding muslim citizens i am sure but you fanatics make them all bad...how really sad. My country is a mighty country. Old saying" you F... with the bull, you get the horn". Take time to actually think, you may just figure out what it means.
OMG ...ROTFLMAO!!!! 5 Stars! Hook'em Horns
Reza – send coordinates please: Stylish AmeriKan Mans would like to take prety picture of yu with 'Google Earth'!
Reza took an IQ test and the results came back.............negative
your puny persian empire is no match for the Republic. jackwagon
Nuke em all. America fuck yeah.
Israel is rouge nation who has violated more than 112 U.N. Resolutions, developed WMD (including Nuclear), and attacked our U. S Liberty in international waters unprovoked which killed 34 sailors, Used our aid money to demolish innocent civilian housing, spied on us (Johnthan Pollard for whom BB is asking pardon) and should dealt accordingly. No! I am not suggesting NUKING them that is against my principle. Whole world should impose sections, NO aid money, No technology transfer from America until she get rid of Nukes and sign peace treaty with all her neighbors and vacates all land occupied after 1948. Trust me there will be ever lasting peace in region and we will drive our 8 and 12 cylinder SUVs paying $1.0/gallon for gas at pumps.
Are you serious? Do you even hear yourself? If Israel got rid of it's nuclear capabilities, it would be devoured before you could blink.
I am no Israel supporter. I think we should stop coddling them and make them play nicely with their neighbors. However, nobody can deny the desire that neighboring nations have to see them disappear.
Asking them to give up their only means of security is ridiculous.
Are YOU serious? Take away Israel's nukes, and they could still steamroll over every one of their bordering enemies, like they have in the past. The USA arms them to the teethm with the latest (or near latest) technologies. This is a well known fact. Do you ever use Google?
Iran having nukes will be fine. Nuclear holocaust in middle east is just what we need. Then we will dominate the worlds oil and cripple china.
That's exactly what I would expect to hear from an American. No wounder why every country in the world dislikes America these days.
Too bad you don't dislike our money, aid and protection
What money ? What Aid ? What protection ?
Please dont assume all americans are like this ignornat POS. Most of us dont make stupid and ridculous comments to pass time...
Reality (?) REALLY! which one do live in?
And we care about them because???????
Hey finland likes us. 🙂
It seems Mr Ajad simply wants to be respected, so now without a couple of nukes in his pocket he projects a ferocious facade; Somewhat like the mighty Chihuaha dog has hair standing on his back as he goes into the alley to take on the daily garbage trucks...
Respect is earned through your actions not your rhetoric
and is that succumbing to foreign governments? and give up your national rights. Let's respect sovereignty of nations. Iran is a nation. They can do whatever they want in Iran, much in the same way that America is a sovereign nation and that americans can do whatever they please in America. And no country or countries should dictate the conducts of domestic affairs to another country.
They will have them the day before they are wiped off the map for good.
Not before you're wiped out also.
.....right off the dry erase board in the Tehran situation room
The real question is does the leadership have the same state-of-mind as those who attacked the US on 9/11? If yes, then when or if they get a bomb, they would probably use it on Israel or the US and be happy with the consequences. Is Israel, the US, or the rest of the world willing to take this risk? We shall see, troubling times indeed!
Isreal is an ally that's why they have nukes
We don't *know* if Israel has nukes or not. They officially neither confirm nor deny their existance.
You are delusional.
If isreal is a rogue nation from taking land from the palistinians what the hell do you call us (USA) for taking land from the indians
First off, There was no Palestinian state when Israel became a nation. Second, Where do you get the idea that they're taking land? If you go back generations, this is where Israelis trace their heritage to. They ARE from here, so saying that they kicked Palestinians off of it is kind of a strange idea. 3rd this is nothing like the issue with the Native Americans and the Europeans that pushed them off their land. Why people keep getting hung up on this Native American thing and the Slavery issue with African Americans i'll never understand. Last time i checked you can't charge somebody's Son if their Father murdered somebody, so how can you continuously lay blame at the feet of White Americans for the unjust actions of those who came before us? Hell my family didn't even come to the United States until the late 1800's early 1900's. Nobody in my Family was even HERE when Native Americans were being pushed off their land or when Blacks were being enslaved. Please tell me how i'm guilty or Anybody currently alive today is guilty of ANY of this? How can you blame Anybody alive today for ANY of this?
Unless you were born in the Rift Valley in Africa you're not a "native" of anywhere else
My point exactly, i'm tired of everyone being so hung up on Native this Native that.... if you want to go back far enough you can't trace where people are from very far. Blaming people for this that and the other and saying this is definitely my ancestors homeland well, that's impossible to prove so why blame someone for taking over? Humans are very mobile, always have been, we've moved here and there and hanging onto notions that you can seek some kind of reparations for what this group's ancestors did to your ancestors is senseless and only leads to violence and hatred in todays world.
Clinton: The logic you presented here does not go well for todays Jews to claim the land of currently risiding individuals who are called Palestinians. The palestininans want their own country called palestine, which happen to be mostly Muslims. There may have been Jews and Muslims who genetically belong to a palestinian race, the problem is created by immigrant jews who started killing innocent palestininans who can only defend themselves with stones. We as Americans are biggest idiots who bow to Jewish media and propaganda and fight wars with other countries i.e Iraq war. Let us calm down and let each and every country decide for themselves what is best for them. We as Americans should stop giving money to Israel when our own people need help in the USA. We should take care of our own house first. NO MORE WARS.....Peace--peace on earth for all including Israel and Iran.
Peace – Don't you see though, none of that matters now, There's Palestinians and Jews in that area and they are not going anywhere... there are very few Jews that are still alive from when Israel was created as a country and Arabs can hate them all they want but it does not matter, they are there now, everybody needs to drop the "we were here first" crap and realize, the Israelis of today are not the Israelis of 2000 years ago or even 100 years ago, none of those people are alive anymore, it's time to drop the crap, realize how things are TODAY and go on with living... there's no point to fighting and going over and over about how this group's ancestors wronged this other groups... it doesn't matter anymore!
may be because nations are not formed by "tracing back far", if that's the case then are many other ancient kingdoms that have far greater legitimacy to re-establish. and even you were to "trace back far" enough there didn't have heritage there. All of modern nations came to be naturally. Israel is the only nation to have been established foreign entities that had no claim to the land whatsoever and in a period when colonialism was the norm. Look I understand the plight of the holocust,the Germans did an aweful thing then, but if a country had to be formed it should've been in German lands. I mean Uganda was considered as homeland. But to drive out palestinians (you can call them whatever you want) that had developed 1900 years of heritage to the land is the embodiment of injustice. Many jews had assimilated to european cultures before nazism,and it makes even more sense that israel should've been in Germany.But what has happened, happened, I mean its history, slavery was history, colonialism was a history and the establishment Israel is also a history, though a short one in comparison. Now lets respect international laws and give the palestinians the pre-1967 boarders.Even your american president said this, but israelis and their supporters don't want it. Now i expect you bash me and call me an anti-semite, quite frankly in a time when you can't really use the word jew, it makes no difference if you do.
israel is a rogue notion.
Slim Jim is a Beef Stick
According to the article "Right now, Iran is enriching uranium at a lower rate than would be needed for a nuclear weapon." I think the author intended to say a lower percentage. The percentage of enrichment determines the ability to produce fissile material for weapons. The rate at which uranium is enriched is not a determining factor in its ability to produce nuclear weapons, just the time frame.
Well if they dont put one together we can always get the GOP in the spirit of Dubya Dick & Dumbsfeld to create oounterfeit evidence that says they do.
Why does everyone assume that we're going to have a repeat of Iraq with Iran? Seriously? First off I was a Soldier in the 2nd Infantry Division that got deployed to Iraq in 03-04 – I was there and there was some evidence of WMD's in the country, we found Sarin Gas and other Chem weapons throughout the country as well as a lot of evidence of residual chem/bio weapons in weapons caches throughout the country, but nothing in the way of MASS quantities. So the WMD thing is not absolutely wrong. Second, We all lived through the Iraq thing, you really think the people of the US would stand by and allow a repeat? It was a rush to judgement and a rush to war with Iraq, we've been squabbling with Iran for over 30 years. If we go there, there's going to be a damn good reason. So get off it, drop the crap, quit assuming that your Government simply wants to go to war and quit using 1 example repeatedly. From a soldiers perspective, we were sent to Iraq by the Elected Government of the People of the United States, so you're just as much to blame as GWB and Dick Cheney.
Isn't it amazing how the rest of the world despises us? ... Think of what the US has brought the world in the last couple hundred years... in just the last hundred even... The rest of the world flies in planes invented in the US... Drives cars invented by us... Uses telephones, cell phones, the internet, all gifts given to the world by the US... the Television.. modern medical equipment, penecilin, modern medicine...Basically every major invention that has brought the world into the modern age since the mid-late 1800's on has come from the United States... and the rest of the world just hates on us... We brought the world light, and they come to us with Jealousy and hatred at every turn. This Nuclear weapon they're working so hard on... that knowledge was brought to the world by the US too... I don't think i'll ever understand it... Imagine if the US had a policy of not sharing any of the technology developed here? ... do you know how horrible the world would be outside our borders? I can't believe the responses i'm seeing in these posts, trying to make my country out to be some villain... How are we villains? you guys are saying we should have never dropped A-bombs on Japan? Did you fall asleep during the part of history class where they explain that the death toll and devastation that would have occurred if the US invaded mainland japan would have been more than DOUBLE that of the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Nevermind that our enemies were developing the same thing and would have annihilated many more nations if they had constructed a bomb first... This whole thing with Iran, do any of you idiots actually travel? did you know that for the last 30-35 years Iranians have gone to the mosque and chanted "Death to America"... entire population of people have been told that you and Me and everybody you know needs to die... that's your family they're talking about, your mom, dad, sister brother cousin everybody, EVERYBODY you know they want dead. And you're going to tell me that we're the Bullies? That we're the Villains? This is a tyrannical regime that violently puts down any resistance from it's own people... Kidnaps foreign citizens and puts them on fake trials so they can make a scene out of their poor diplomatic relations with the rest of the world.... Seriously, some of you are so stupid it's unbelievable, you shouldn't even be citizens of the US when you're so stupid that you don't even understand what's going on.
Clinton
Isn't it amazing how the rest of the world despises us? ... Think of what the US has brought the world in the last couple hundred years... in just the last hundred even... The rest of the world flies in planes invented in the US... Drives cars invented by us... Uses telephones, cell phones, the internet, all gifts given to the world by the US... the Television.. modern medical equipment, penecilin, modern medicine...Basically every major invention that has brought the world into the modern age since the mid-late 1800's on has come from the United States...
Blah Blah Blah.They should make education compulsory it that bankrupt nation of yours!! Radio, european invention Television, european invention Cars, european invention Penecillin,european invention X rays,european invention Jet Engines, european invention Rocket technolog,yeuropean invention Telephones, european invention MRI machines, european invention Computers, european invention Computer language european invention railways european invention ocean Liners european invention USA european invention etc etc etc
Tesla made Xrays in the US before anyone patented it elsewhere. Marconi stole his version from an American inventor.
This list is long and very much and counter to your statements. But I give the Montgolfier brothers credit for the hot air balloon.... the issue at hand is that we think our way is best, and our pride as AMERICANS makes us forget that these creations were made by a collection of people of mixed ancestry who had the opportunity to do it because of our way of life an the freedoms our country offers. Try criticizing your own country like you do ours, and see how long you survive in the gulag. I say fine. If you don't want our help (with all the hooks our government has added) don't accept it.
LMFAO where did you go to school moron? The wright brothers were the first to fly a plane jack-@## – Jet engines were developed by Germany but used the technology of lift drag etc. designed by US to put it on wings that fly. and the US developed the modern Jetliners that are flown today. COMPUTERS WERE DEVELOPED IN THE UNITED STATES YOU F!@#$ING MORON! The UNITED STATES MILITARY INVENTED THE INTERNET! JACK@#$ you obviously were either taught by a bunch of lying hypocrites that hate the fact that the US has cornered the market on Modern inventions or you simply have too much pride to admit your P.O.S. Country did nothing to help the world. Cell phones, internet, wifi all of that was developed in the US using US technology learned in US universities, why else do you think every damn foreign country sends their young adults to our Universities.
Blah Blah Blah The europeans should have left you knuckle dragging clowns in the caves where they found you lol You aint got a clue lol
Rontgen is a the physics professor in Germany who studied the electromagnetic rays produced by Crookes tubes. He published a paper about his discovery on December 28, 1895. He called the ray as X since it is still unknown. Rontgen received a Nobel Prize in Physics for his invention European
Whittle and Ohain independently of each other developed the Jet Engine ....European
Babbage invented the first computer while Turing is the father of computer sciences Europeans
Car invention Europeans Television Europeans RadioE uropeans Hovercraft Europeans Railways Europeans First flight by man Europeans Telephone European Helicopters European All your sports are even rip off other games baseball=rounders football=rugby etc.Lets face it you are even to dumb to have your own language.Now go get your foodstamps dud
Ivan,
You're too stupid for words and completely misinformed. You've been lied to and you believe every shovel of shi$ they pushed down your throat. People in the US invented all the things i've listed you moron. You don't have to believe it but it won't change the fact that it's true. Oh and as for our language. We didn't invent it, we speak English, which is just so dumb you had to learn it? lol oh wait, no that's because English is the language spoken around the world. If you're calling yourself Ivan than i assume you're Russian? and if so, funny that you make a crack at me saying i should go get foodstamps because i think your Country did invent that... how's it going by the way, enjoying the 3rd world version of yourselves? If you think we suck, what does that mean for your country which bowed to us and lost. Suck on that and go drink some more vodka and dream about the time when your sick country was almost important to the world.
The only reason you duds had a space programme was bcause you took a bunch of nazi war criminals to develop it
Wernher Magnus Maximilian, Freiherr[1] von Braun (March 23, 1912 – June 16, 1977) was a German-born American rocket scientist, aerospace engineer, space architect, and one of the leading figures in the development of rocket technology in Nazi Germany during World War II and in the United States after that.
A former member of the Nazi party, commissioned Sturmbannführer of the paramilitary SS and decorated Nazi war hero, von Braun would later be regarded as the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century in his role with the United States civilian space agency NASA.[2] In his 20s and early 30s, von Braun was the central figure in Germany's rocket development program, responsible for the design and realization of the deadly V-2 combat rocket during World War II. After the war, he and some of his rocket team were taken to the U.S. as part of the then-secret Operation Paperclip.
Huh, that's funny Ivan, because the only reason your country wasn't conquered by the Nazis is because the United States sent you military aid and opened up a second front for Germany to defend. If not for Fighters and Bombers built by Boeing your airforce would have fallen apart, and after the war, you refused to pay us back for the aid we provided you in your most dire moments. Talk about honorless. Also, your brutal regime murdered millions throughout the world, i wouldn't go around trying to talk crap about my country when you're from Russia the largest mass murderers the world has ever known, including Hitler. Oh and now you guys seem intent on repeating those mistakes, Putin is trying to play his very best Stalin and you idiots aren't putting a stop to it... soon history will repeat itself. And again, you are talking about my country and getting welfare, your country has more than twice as many unemployed and we're recovering, unlike you who's been "recovering" since the late 80's. Our economy has grown over the past year, our unemployment has dropped below 9% and me personally, I'm a project manager for the largest IT company in the world. I make plenty of money i have a home a wife and a kid on the way. So suck on that and go back to your Vodka.
I'm right there with Ivan...
Did you know that actually it was captured and defected German scientists who were responsible for the A-bomb?
What makes America so great? I honestly don't know. All I see is a bunch of under-educated, gov't controlled media-watching, other-country-hating idiots.
I'm tired of being told all the time that our country is the greatest country in the world. I've been to a few other countries... And I loved them.
I haven't been everywhere, and neither have you.
Why should other countries hate us? How about Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Nicaragua, Russia (yeah, we invaded them in 1919, it's called the Polar Bear Expedition, look it up), Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo.
How about the fact that we have military bases in an unknown number of countries and with an unknown number of military installations around the world (yes, you can quote me a figure from somewhere, I'm sure, but I could quote you 4 or 5 other figures from different sources. The number of military installations and the number of countries we have them in is, for all intents and purposes, unknown. Some places don't count our bases in Afghanistan, some exclude European bases, some exclude anything in the middle east. The exact number can be quated from the DoD as one number, then another DoD report of a different number).
That's called an empire.
Jesse from KC – first off you're a jacka##, i just want to make that clear, you US hating freak, why don't you move to one of those country's you loved so much. 2nd, i've been to country's that are like the ones we're talking about here, and i can guaranF!@#$ingtee you they aren't like the ones you've visited, I was deployed to Iraq in 03-04. I spent time in Kuwait, Iraq, I've been to several countries in Europe and even Japan and South Korea, let me tell you moron, It's not all beautiful tourist bull@#$^ out there like you've seen. Europe is mostly okay, but the Middle East is !@#$ing terrible, they kill over the slightest things, Different tribe, they kill you, different religion, they kill you, different ideology, they kill you. IT's not a modern society. The US, the one you hate so much because you're a !@#$ing idiot troll, is a jewell of what human civilization can bring to the world... We are involved in so many places because we ACTUALLY GIVE A FLYING F!@#$ about other people. Do you know how many billions of dollars go out to foreign country's every year to prevent mass starvation? To prevent Diseases from spreading rampant throughout the poorer country's of the world? Do you know how many BILLIONS of dollars of Aid from ordinary civilians in the US goes out to the peoples in South America, Africa, Asia etc. to save starving homeless people because these backward @## societies can't get their act together despite existing for thousands of years.... It's insane... without the US, MILLIONS of people around the world would die every single year from Starvation, disease, and Thirst... And you hate us? GO AWAY... go live somewhere else... And as for your stupid comment about captured german scientists blah blah blah, You idiot, defectors that moved to America because they could be free from persecution have filled this country since it's inception, that's what and who we are, that doesn't make those people less American... dip@#$%... it's idiots like you that need to be banned from this country and shipped to somewhere like Iraq, where there's a $10,000 dollar bounty on your head just because you're western... you friggin moron.
Really Clinton ? The US is so amazing and cares about the rest of the world ?
Like what ?
Overthrowing democratically elected leaders in Chile, Argentina, Iran, ... ?
Helping far-right paramilitary groups in El Salvador, Guatemala ?
Supporting countless dictators in Chile, Argentina, Egypt, Yemen, ... ?
Invading countries that never threatened the US like Panama, Grenada, ... ?
Going and destroying Vietnam and Iraq in war fully based on lies ?
You tell me, that's what your definition of 'amazing country' and 'loving' is ? Do you have a f**king clue about what the words freedom and justice mean ?
Rather, you're juste a big nationalist who can't stand for a second to hear something bad about his country. Someone who goes and immediately insult anyone who dares to criticize his beloved country for all the crimes it commits.
Maybe it would be time for you to go read the declaration of human rights, that specifiy that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. You know, not just all americans, ALL MEN !
Maybe it would be time for you to have a minimum of humility, maybe then the rest of the world would stop thinking that americans are violent, selfish, arrogant and ignorant morons.
Clinton the biggest dud in the history of the internet.
WW2 was won and lost on the Russian front dunce boy Never mind you puny little effort.In fact I believe if it were not for Canadian and British troops you would still be stuck on the beach at Omaha waiting for the Russians to come and rescue you.Remember my little dunce boy while your country was financing and supplying the Third Reich with all their needs some countries were actuall fighting them.Now go get yer food stamps lol
Jesse – If you don't know what makes the USA so great, then you need to leave it. Don't BS me about rights, just go. You're a Californian aren't you ...or a liberal anyway (atheist?) This is not an exercise in gum flapping or what-iffing; if you are that clueless about your American heritage, then you have none. Go where you can be appreciated ...like France.
One more time just for you clinton dunce boy, all the following you claimed were invented by yanks and the world should be grateful lol now after you have read it go back to the corner with your dunce cap on
Television =Baird [not a yank]
Radio=Marconi [not a yank]
Automobile=Benz [not a yank]
Telephone= Bell [not a yank]
First Computers=Babbage +Turing [not yanks]
Hovercraft= Cockerill [not a yank]
Helicopters= Oehmichen [ not a yank]
Penecillin= Fleming [not a yank]
X Rays = Rontgen [ not a yank]
Jet Engine = Whittle [not a yank]
First Ocean Liners= British
First Raiways = British
First Passeger Airliner using turbo jet propulsion= Havilland Comet[not yanks]
No wonder you people are a third world country with an education system like yours Now go stand in line for your food stamps like a good liddle boy
That just smacks of an arroghant Russian. Still bent on believing whatever the Kremlin would have you believe? lmfao, you have no idea how much more powerful and wealthy our country is than yours, we've been at the top and we'll stay at the top all the while your country continues to degrade and rust til it falls apart, you want to talk about our education system? At least we can afford to go to school, yeh and not just the kids with influential parents, all of our kids go to school, you want to talk about Welfare, the Majority of your country lives in poverty and begs for food. Your women are whoring themselves out to the rest of the world, i can go online right now and buy one if i wanted to, seriously, show me the website where you can buy an American bride. You're nothing, your country is nothing, there's nothing left to brag about russian, we defeated you and your evil empire is nothing but a dead rotting corpse.
Yeah really, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone (Canadian Citizen, originally from Scotland). The light bulb wasn't invented by Edison either despite popular belief. It was invented and patented by Canadians Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans in 1875 (they sold the idea to Edison). Some other Canadian inventions include: alkaline batteries, the pacemaker, insulin, the CanadaARM (outer-space mechanical arm), Java programming language, the electron microscope, the television camera, AND superman. All great nations have their inventions. To think that modern technology exists because of the United States is a bit much. There have been many contributing nations.
Ivan the Testicle – you should try mixing cyanide in with your drinks ...might improve your POV! Or are you a Urine on the rocks kinda man?
Out of curiosity, isn't allowing everyone to have a nuke perfectly in line with Republicans pitch for gun rights? If everyone has one, no one would DARE try to kill anyone, right?
High five dude!
Iran (enemy of the free world) need be be NUKED BEFORE it gain nuke power. the place of a Islamit nation is in the stone age, as you cannot thrust animals (AKA: Muslims) with nukes.
Mad Dog
By doing nothing about this Obama is inviting a Nuclear War in the mid-east that will affect everyone.
Stuxnet III – anyone?, anyone?....
I say let Iran develop and use their weapon. Then the rest of the countries that already have them and don't use them can turn Iran into dust. Problem solved.
Did you come up with this solution after 2 minutes thinking, 10 minutes thinking, or spontaneously? Genius!
No I came up with when I got my phd in intellect relations
Oh and my second idea is to send the illegal aliens over there to rebuild
The USA, India, Pakistan, North Korea, Israel , China and Russia (and probably others that we don't hear much about ) have nukes ...none of them has used them against the others...hypocritical of us to say we can have nukes but you can't because they are dangerous.... it seems the US is afraid of global equality
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Your claim that none has used then against another is FAIL
A little cheesy with your whine?
The Iranians are doing what the US did in the Manhattan Project.
At some point, a nuclear device will have to be tested. Otherwise, its not much of a threat (e.g. N. Korea) Once, successfully tested, then the whole world will know the answer to the question " does Iran have a bomb".
No one wants war, especially Iran, but the Iranian leaders are gambling on the strength of their national pride. If they miscalculate, it will be a disaster for Iran.
I hate war. I was against the Iraq war, the Vietnam war, even the Afghan war (after taking out the Taliban).
But there are two wars that may be in fact be just unavoidable, with Iran and Pakistan, the former to prevent a rogue regime from acquiring a Nuclear weapon, and the other to seize their self avowed Islamic bombs, if ONLY we are serious about preventing what will surely be a Nuclear catastrophe with either these countries themselves, or their veritable arms (as Gen. Mike Mullen put it with regard to Pakistani sponsored terror groups) exploding a suitcase bomb in any of our big cities – NYC, Washington DC etc.
Unless we tame this Islamic demon we will fight this battle not only in Iran, Pakistan but also in our own countries with the growing radicalization of a section of our populace, as the FBI and other security agencies have clearly said.
It's already happening in Europe, India, and Israel, leaving the US alone as the last bastion of the free world.
Otherwise influential people like Mr. Fareed Zakaria, Dean Obeidallah, Imam Rauf, Ethan Casey etc. are ONLY making things worse!
How are they doing it....by hoodwinking gullible and naive Americans and drumming up support for intolerant ideologies while mis-using America's own freedoms!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
Your tin foil hat is too tight on your head.
The US the last bastion of the free world? Where did you get that idea? The US has by far the highest prison population of any western country; we are one of the last democracies with capital punishment; 30 million Americans are without health insurance, impossible in Europe; Guantanamo; the illegal Iraq war. You need any more examples? What's so free about all this?
The US the last bastion of the free world
LOL
Iran is entitled to any weapon its likes – which includes nuclear weapons.
America is a danger because it has used nuclear weapons Iran has not.
Actually we used 2 atomic bombs, not the modern Nuclear bombs that we have today, these are much more devastating, and however horrific the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were, they do not compare to the amount of devastation and death that would have incurred if the US had invaded Mainland Japan to both the US servicemen and the Japanese population. It's a hard lesson from history, no matter how devastating the weapons we create, they cannot compare to the devastation that can be achieved with radical ideology, the Japanese were willing to fight to the last man... the bombs made that stance irrelevant. In Russia, radical ideology cost the lives of 20 million people... the lives lost in the use of Atomic weapons is merely a drop in the bucket compared to what Russia's communist party did to their own people.
Nothing compares to the genocide you freaks inflicted apon the native americans[indians] and the Cambodians and Vietnamese.
And the U.S. is entitled to defend its country even if it includes making a dustbowl out of Iran.
"America is a danger because it has used nuclear weapons Iran has not."
Yes, we did. Do you know why? Because the massive loss of life on both sides that had no only already happened, but would continue to happen required a sudden, drastic measure to end the conflict. It worked.
We have not used them since. No other situation has been so dire as to require it. Educate yourself and try thinking occasionally and you may soon be able to come up with your own ideas, instead of regurgitating rhetoric.
I think they have way beyond the 25 killstreak that's required to get a nuke.
No, the Harrier Strike took them out long before.
when will Iran have nukes? when Israel drops them on Iran, of course. don't be silly.
I think that Iran is most likely much further along in the enrichment process than anyone knows. And I hope that's the case. Why should Israel be allowed to be the only country in the middle east with nukes ? This is why they behave like bullies! They have no intentions of giving up the palestinian lands either. So if Iran goes nuclear, maybe they'll deal. And if it goes to war, so be it. The US should stay out of it, and let them all kill themselves.
You get a nuclear weapon. And you get a nuclear weapon. And you get a nuclear weapon.
Rafael, Iran and the Irainian military are as much a threat as the Iraqis were...The Iran/Iraq war was fought for 9 year years and went NOWHERE, we did it 3 weeks.... Your better off coming to the negotiating table then trying to destroy your country in a war you can not win...even if you had nukes.
If they don't have nuclear weapons already, for sure they are working in developing one. I can assure you that they are not working towards building water balloons for carnival in Brazil. What can you expect from dictators whose religion is so peaceful...
Without question they don't have nukes yet, because without question they will scream it to the world the moment they do have them. Maybe even before the actually have them.
With corruption being what it is in Pakistan; Ajad could esily purchace a couple of quick assemble bomb components across the border – paid for but hands off until needed? Big money and demand get results. The use of a nuke by Iran though would be suicide for the country and could draw in China if Israel reacts.
I agree that all nuclear weapons should be abolished. When we fought the war in the Pacific, we did not hesitate to drop the H-bomb on Japan and if we didn't defeat Nazi Germany, Hitler would have eventually wiped out three thirds of the world with nuclear weapons. Well, that brings me to my next point...I understand that this Iranian facility is well fortified and buried deep into the mountains and immuned to any kind of attack as reported. But perhaps the writer didn't read the histort of the Allied defeat of Nazi Germany. In other words, Nazi Germany had many sensitive military facilities buried much deeper than this facility in Iran and we destroyed them with bobms that were not as sophisticated as those we have today. Fortified? You've got to be kidding right?
It is true that the US is the -only- country to ever use nuclear weapons against another; the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were very crude A-Bombs, not H-Bombs.
That is correct. I believe the yield for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs was ~10-15 Kilotons. Hydrogen weapons typically have yields in the multi-megaton range. Orders of magnitude greater than the bombs dropped on Japan. I believe Russia holds the title of the larges Hydrogen bomb, with a yield of ~57 Megatons (the Tsar bomb), butnot dropped on a foreign nation in time of war.
This is off-topic, but what the heck ... The next step in the war with Japan would have been a U.S. Invasion of the main Japanese homeland. From what I recall, estimates of U.S. casualties ALONE (NOT including Japanese casualties from U.S. Invasion/fighting) were from 100,000 to 500,000. Truman had that to ponder, OR drop A-bombs 1 at-a-time (AFTER giving due warning). The Potsdam Declaration was issued, which Japan basically did not reply to (Japanese term is Mokusatsu, translated meaning "to ignore or treat contemptuously through silence" or "to kill with silence"). Everyone knows what happened after that ... Hiroshima ... another warning by U.S. ... then Nagasaki.
Everyone needs to take a step back and understand this is not a geo-political issue or a hypothetical concerning whether nuclear weapons should exist or not, the genie is out of the bottle. The real question is should a regieme with a record of supporting terrorism, strong-arming its own population and basing policy on religious doctrine be allowed to develop a capability to kill millions of people in a single instant (regardless of the technology)? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
But I thought the U.S. and Israel already have nukes. 🙂
lmao
Well "the genie is out of the bottle" so it will definitely happen one day!
You do realize U.S. politicians armed these terrorists throughout the late 80's, and then said politicians son sent the middle classes children over to risk their lives to disarm them for whatever cause you believe said war was fought right? Just sayin...
The threshold issue is are we willing to allow a regime that not only enthusiastically supports, but actively encourages suicide bombing to obtain nuclear weapons? While perhaps the leaders of Iran do not possess the strength of conviction necessary to follow through with their self professed beliefs, one needs to consider the following: Iran initiates a suicidal nuclear exchange with the US or Israel. Iran would not only succeed in killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians but according to their belief system the retaliatory strike would not serve as punishment. It would make glorious martyrs of the entire Iranian population and instantly transport them to eternal paradise. The deterrence value of Mutually Assured Destruction would not apply to suicidal true believers.
"terrorist" is just b.s. rhetoric for an extremely pissed off person. You wonder why these people attack our country, it's because we've been trying to police and control their coutries since the 40's. and you talk about 9/11.. the head of Pakistan ISA Wired 100,000 dollars to a world trade center attacker and nothing has been done about that.. most of the highjackers were SAUDI, but they have too much money in the US for us to do them.. so we play the blame game. And if you're stupid enough to wonder why they are arming themselves let me think.. maybe because the U.S. over the past 10 years has killed 1 million people in Iraq, a lot of which innocent civilians, and tryed to change their entire system.. The only reason these people are so pissed is no one will leave them alone, yet we continue with war is the only option talk when it hasn't fucking worked in the middle east ever.. we are reaping what we have created and everyone is to dumb to realize it... and if you've forgotten, the United States was the only country stupid enough to actually use a A-bomb on humanity TWICE. If a human being with a past like that was to come near my family and people I love, I'd would arm myself as well.
You've done a fantastic job of over-simplifying half a century of American foreign policy...
That, along with ignoring the reasons why nuclear weapons were used by the US, OVER 70 YEARS AGO, does a fantastic job of propping up your weak, conspiracy ridden argument.
Dude: You wrote that the U.S. was stupid enough to use atomic weapons on humanity twice. Stupid? Perhaps not. Perhaps the cost of an invasion of the Japanese home islands would have been far more costly than the thousands who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The Japanese fought tenaciously even for remote possessions like Saipan and Iwo Jima. Ask yourself how many U.S. Army and USMC personnel died in the battle of Okinawa. One can only imagine the massive bloodletting that would have been involved in a U.S. invasion of Tokyo.
Seems to me reasonable people can argue (although I wouldn't) that the U.S. decision to use nukes in 1945 was immoral, but I can't see how any reasonable person can argue the decision was stupid.
You ask why the US is trying to police the world / region – well "Somebodys gonna do it so it might as well be US".
There will always be a certain gubernment that will dominate in trying to control the rest of the world. This alma-matter includes the previous world powers of The Persian Empire, Greece, Romans, Brittish, and now The US... Besides who would you rather have doing it the US or some dictator?
this threat is real , this is not iraq , no smoke and mirrors here folks. what is the iraian leader bringing back on the plane to iran from his visit to south america ? north korea trades with the countries the plane will visit.
i don't like these kids playing with matches.
Some of you are too far in the trees to see the forrest. When will you realize that we are all, as individuals, just sheep in the flock? These huge world events aren't within our control. The fuse has been lit, and we should simply gather those we love close to us, watch the news, and be prepared.
If the starving and completely isolated North Koreans can make a nuclear bomb, then the rich and well educated Iran will have then the day after tomorrow. Thanks Obama!
Underground......A good place. Now all we need to do is cover it up!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Took the words out of my mouth!
Iran has not attacked anyone in the last 200 years. (unlike U.S (especially the hiroshima nagasaki WMD)). If the United states has right to be a nuclear power, so does every country. And please don't give me the 'we have good intensions and everyone else is evil' B.S. People are aware of all the FALSE FLAG operation US has pulled in the past. Pakistan and India are both nuclear powers, and nobody is pointing finger at them like they are at Iran. The reason for that is , Iran doesn't want to be a pet of the U.S like many other nations.
So do you think it is okay for them to wipe a particular nation off the map as they have said they would do if they could? Has the US or any other nuclear nation made these statements? Are you okay with this country using these weapons outside of a test?
like the bully americans would let that happen,stop living a fantasy and come back to reality
The US has not said it, they would rather let thier actions speak louder than thier words. Remember Hiroshima?
Are you people really this stupid. How the heck do you know about the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and not know that the only alternative would have been to invade mainland Japan, where even conservative estimates put the probable death toll at well over a million. The dropping of these 2 bombs saved 100's of thousands of people's lives and a battle that would have Devastated Japan to the point it would not exist in the way it does today. The leaders in the United States weighed the options and based their decision on the most effective means to end the war, if not for the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, Japan would have nearly been wiped off the map... idiots like you guys don't deserve to have computers much less blog about stuff you don't understand... go back to school morons.
I think your brain got flooded. Take a break and read up on the fighting between Iran and Iraq.
"Got" flloded? That clown was "born" with water on his brain
A few key points to consider:
-With only 3000 centrifuges in one location and 8000 in another, Iran won't be enriching uranium anywhere close to bomb grade anytime soon, even if they've got the design and fabrication perfect and that isn't a given. Plus, there is a lot more to enriching than the centrifuges and a lot more to making a bomb than enriching (trust the nuclear engineer, please).
–Iran is in compliance with IAEA inspections and the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel and India are not, just to name two.
–The nuclear genie is out of the bottle. If we had the scientific and manufacturing capability to build a bomb from scratch in the 1940's, how can we be so arrogant as to think scientists and engineers in other countries can't figure it out on their own? Knowing that, shouldn't our approach change?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-08/iran-nuclear-weapons/52451620/1
The same group of people who own the Media and our Banking System are pushing for another war?
Do we have to have a WARTALK everyday? is our Israeli Own Controlled Media (CNN AND FOX) are pushing for another war?
Iran will test a bomb within the next 3 years. The question becomes, what will the west, or Israel do?
My guess is that Israel will attack before then. And it will be with bombs designed to go deep. Perhaps a nuke. Or perhaps multiple penetrators (one after the other like 10-20 seconds apart).
Never! Hahahahahahahahahaha.
nukes in pakistan, nukes in india. these were worries at one time. so what if iran has them. maybe this will challenge the dbl stndrd applid to israeli posession of same. israel is clrly an aggressor. why does wrld cmunity allow israel to carry out attacks on other countries soil with no intnl rebuke. ie. syria 2007, iraq earlier. if evry one was capable of having nukes no one would want to use them. even handed diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy.
Iraq????? Ummm you sound like someone that has never been to Israel. So that would mean you never saw the huge mall that was hit by a Scud missile fired by Iraq which missed its intended target which was a Nuclear Power plant across the street. I guess you also haven't seen all the residential areas in Tel Aviv that were hit by Iraqi missiles. I think you need to go back and do some research before you blame all the problems in a huge region on one of the worlds smallest countries/states.
that was war,and if they want to build a mall next to a nuke power plant that is their stupidity
I guess you have forgotten the USS Liberty, a US flagged ship the Isrealis attacked on the high seas in a war crime, murdering 34 US sailors.
Isreal is NO friend of ours! They are liars and murderers.
Amadinajhad thinks he has been chosen to fulfill prophecy of Doomsday. My guess, nuke will be ready by December 21.
The west is downplaying Iran's capability to manufacture weapons-grade uranium in order to eliminate fears.
Let them keep on trying to enrich uranium. Maybe they will cause another Chernobyl & solve that problem!
Actually Lenn, you probably still tooted in your sandbox when Chernobyl happened, and probably do not have a tiny clue that even an explosion at the location would project those deadly radioactive waves thousand of miles away causing all kinds of birth defects and such in innocent countries where innocent children and people live. So yeah, what a great suggestion! Get an education!
Hmmm. I think that you have seen one too many tv shows or just have an extreme lack of education.
Do unto others as u would have them do unto you its amazing that such a simple concept is not understood nor practiced by any race of people we all hate each other so much its rediculous and one day our hatred for each other will b the worlds demise other than the color of our skin what makes us so different? wake up
Let them spend the money and energy building them. Just cordon off the area, quit ALL relations with them, and stop buying their oil. This is a problem for Israel and Europe to solve with us providing logistics only if requested, nothing more. I'm getting sick and tired of our government and the news media trying to generate a boogey man every few years for us to fear, loathe and then invade.
Ever read Mien Kamph? That was a boogey man too. Matter of fact that boogey man did exactly what he said he was going to do. Now Ahmadinejad saying that he will wipe Israel off the map when he gets a chance. We don't need some nutjob saying he is going to start a war someday, possibly just as soon as he develops a nuclear weapon.
Think we should stay out of it? Just what we and the rest of the world need is 7 or 8 countries at war in that region with a couple of large weapon detonations as well.
I think everyone would benefit from Iran not having a nuclear weapon program,
No Steve, you are wrong. Peace is the order of the day if Iran gets nukes, or we could invade and start a nuclear war. Actually yeah, America is probably stupid enough to do something like that. Stupid Americans.
"We don't need some nutjob saying he is going to start a war someday"
You mean like that loud mouthed right wing idiot Bibi Netanyahu? He's a fool who's going to drag us into ANOTHER war. He doesn't give a damn what harm he does to America, as long as he gets his way. Just another war-loving typical right wing nut job.
ABOLISH all wmds worldwide, then we'll talk.
Only after US scraps 10 out of 11 of its aircraft carriers. Scrapping nuclear weapons before that would only provoke an aggression.
Why we are worried about Iran having Nukes when we have thousands and Israel has hundreds of them. I think it will be good for Iran to have Nukes that will keep Israeli aggression in check. Mutual destruction is another way to keep peace in the middle east.
Let them have as many they want. We know how defend ourselves and we should stop putting our nose in other countries ass which stinks anyway.
You are truly a moron.
Ur worse than a moron ......... What fairy tale world do you live in?
I am fine with that if you will lose your weapons and walk in various places in America (watson, chi-town south side, etc) wearing a white sheet (nothing illegal in that). Do that, and I will back your idea. Until then, hopefully, you will realize that many nations do not care about what they have signed, they will simply lie. Google for washington post china 3000 nuclear bombs
Actually we have tens of thousands of nukes and no government and no one knows how many nukes Israel has so get your facts straight.
no one knows the answer to that question, man. This planet is full of double-standards. Bombs like that shouldnt even exist in the first place...
there's no doubt the fuse is lit, the question is, when will it explode??
Its not important when Iran gets nukes CNN. We can't focus on that. What we need to focus on is how we blame Bush and not Obama for it.
I agree with Ben, Obama became president with a crappy economy in the first place, it's bush's fault for everything
well obama sure isn`t helping things is he?
There ya go Ben, wana keep playing the blame game do ya?? Sure that will help, always has been before, to bad most of the bafoons in the white house think like yoiu..
Russia and China will continue to help Iran with its program. Sanction them?
Please answer the question! Why is Israel allowed to possess nuclear weapons? It seems clear that no nation in the "middle east" should have wmd.
Why? Because Israel has not threatened to wipe its neighbors off the face of the earth as has Iran, and Israel is not the universe's leading exporter of terrorism as is Iran.
ANy other questions?
Does that mean that the ethnic cleansing of 850,000 Palestinians and the destruction of 450 Arab villages in 1947 when the Jews invaded Palestine do not count? And what about the slow holocaust of the Palestinian population these days? Is it possible to consider that the destruction sowed by Israel on its Palestinians neighbors is made possible by the nukes it has and the protection of the US.
Think about it, and you might see that Israel can be perceived as a very dangerous nation by its neighbors.
This being said, you cannot argue that once Israel has thrown out all Palestinians from Judea and Samaria, it will become a peaceful nation, and hence having nukes is not a big deal. Or can you ?
@MSL58...yeah I've got more questions. How is it that Israel is justified in destroying the human rights of their neighbours without retribution but Iraq and Afghanistan deserved to get raped? Israel is just as much a rogue nation as Iran. If Iran gets a nuke, and I hope they do, then maybe Israel will have to put its little jewish dick back into its pants and stop extorting the those who can't fight back. It's all Israel's fault. I wouldn't feel bad if Israel became a crater, why would you? They have killed enough Lebanese, Palestinians, and Jordanians over the years. Why protect Israel, let them die, they deserve it.
I believe it was Ms. Clinton who was threatening to "obliterate Iran" in her own words, not the other way around.
at least iran just threatened they have not tried
The reality is that Israel is a terrorist state, check the records how many innocents people they killed, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and the list goes on, targeted killing all over the world, spying on US and calling themselves our ally.
Israel is the number one terrorist state , I hope that our corrupt leaders stop using their Veto to cover up what their terrorist agenda is on the middle east.
Isreal murdered 34 US sailors aboard the USS Liberty in an unprovoked attack on the high seas. Screw Isreal. They keep civilian populations in ghettos and call themselves Civilized? Get a clue, nimrod.
We have been reading reports on here since 2003: IRAN TO HAVE BOMB WITHIN 2 YEARS!!!11
Pretty sure they have something by now boys, too little, too late.
If not a high yield weapon, probably a few dirty bombs, that in their own way can be just as bad.
Frigged up big time boys.
INSTEAD OF IRAN FIRST TAKE IT OUT PAKISTAN NUCLEAR FACILITY BECAUSE IT IS DANGERS FOR WORLD. WHERE TERRORISM IS MAIN HIDING HEAVEN FOR TERRORIST ON EARTH.
@santorum: you forgot to follow your comment with the word "not"
Can someone explain to me why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons, but not admit to them and not be scrutinized? Why the double standard? Israel is just as, if not more, dangerous than any other country.
Why? Because Iran is a Rogue nation who support terrorists and cause instabilities in the region. Just a few days ago, they announced that they will sale these uranium enrichment technologies to Africa and other parts of the world. What would be the outcome if all the rogue nations know how to build an atomic bomb. What if one of these A-bomb fall into the terrorists' hand? Why it is so hard for you to understand?
Isreal qualifies as a Rogue Nation. They are a lawless regime, attacking civilian populations.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/as-the-crow-flies/
Because Israel forces the United States into supporting them in anything they do. Honestly, Israel didn't sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and argued against the idea. Overall, I don't support the achievement of nuclear weapons technology, but I support the sovereignty of Iran.
Israel is in violation of 80 UN resolutions and keeps building settlements on the land which was stolen from Palestinians. Does that not make Israel a rogue nation as well?
You realize there is no such thing as Palestine? Historically ( as a history professor), there was never a country/kingdom as Palestine. Israel stole nothing. It also tried very hard to negotiate with the Palestinians to give back some land. Tell you the truth, between those negotiations, Israel has shown us that they are... more mature.
Israel is allowed to do anything it wants, courtesy of the US. North Korea is a paranoid police state that arguably is a greater threat to world peace than Iran, yet no serious measures were taken to stop them developing nuclear capability. Pakistan and India are both nuclear, and hate each other. Iran is only doing what other nations have done before them. And remember the nation with the greatest record of invading other countries is the US.
My point exactly Santorum!! The USA turns a blind eye to Irael's nukes but threatens anyone else fto keep them having them!!! We have already tried diplomatic avenues with North Korea and it didn't work ..North Korea has nukes...big deal...
If Iran can adequately protect the facility at Fordo then there is no reason to think they won't continue developing nuke technology...again ..big deal....no one is saying they will use nukes...India and Pakistan have threatened each other for years and never launched ... everyone understands if one launches EVERYONE launches.. MAD...let them have nukes...