Pakistan ready for a reset?
By Jill Dougherty and Adam Levine
The chill between the United States and Pakistan continues in 2012, a condition that could contribute to a tough start for Pakistan's new ambassador to Washington.
Sherry Rehman will arrive to take up her duties in Washington by the end of the week, a senior Pakistani official confirmed to CNN.
Rehman, a longtime member of Pakistan's ruling People's Party and a confidant of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, is a staunch supporter of human rights - a stance that could help in her new position, but she's got her work cut out for her.but she's got her work cut out for her.
Pakistan continues to hold the United States at a distance after the disastrous NATO airstrike that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on the border with Afghanistan. The U.S. military admitted error, but not enough to satisfy the Pakistanis whose own investigation offered a different take on what went wrong.
As a result, key supply lines into Afghanistan continue to be shut. The CIA has put its drone program on ice for the time being, it seems, and U.S. military personel left the country late last year at the request of the Pakistanis.
Still, the U.S. needs Pakistan and continues to talk about stabilizing relations. U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter has been in touch with the Pakistanis, according to the State Department.
"We want to get back to normal and get into a full counterterrorism relationship again," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Tuesday. "We think that’s important, not only for U.S. security but for Pakistani security and for the security of the entire region. So those conversations will continue."
Rehman’s most critical mission as ambassador is to sell Pakistan as a reliable ally in the fight against militancy and as a deserving recipient of billions of dollars in US aid at a time when Washington is also fast losing trust in Islamabad.
The Pakistanis want money and right now the steady flow of U.S. dollars has been stemmed. Congress recently passed a new defense bill that freezes some $700 million in aid pending assurances that the country working to stop the the manufacture and transport of improvised explosive devices, or IEDs - the hidden bombs that have caused havoc for coalition forces in Afghanistan.
Rehman replaces Pakistan’s former Ambassador to Washington, Hussain Haqqani, who resigned amid alleged links to a secret plot to cut back the powers of Pakistan's military leaders. It is widely believed that the scandal so incensed the military brass that they wanted Haqqani out.
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Pakistan was all the way trying to act smarty pants. Their power drunk Army sought to attain 'strategic depth' in the South Asian region. When the opportunity to experiment with asymmetric warfare against the Soviets came across for free, they jumped up in glee and grabbed it with both hands and feet.
With the covert support of the USA a Saudi, US financial help, Pasthus from Afghanistan available for foot soldiers Pak stood to lose nothing. They thought they could play the entire show with their strings. However, however... the mistake they made was to create a radicalized society to provide a broad based, local level, agenda driven support to the malicious policy designs.
This megalomaniacal over drive by their Army, ISI resulted in a very insecure society prone to conspiracy theories. Quoting from my earlier post :
"No electricity, No gas, No CNG. Only 40 freight trains of a fleet of 120 run today. Your military spending is a higher % of your GDP than your education spending. Your girl child is consistently ignored. Out of a population of 170 Million, 40 Million kids will not finish high school.
This is what your megalomaniacal military brought upon you. Don't see it? Sure, I can empathize with you for you have been brainwashed systematically since the days of your president Zia-Ul-Haq. Religion, you claim will solve everything for you. You insist on hating minorities including Hindus, Christians, Sikhs in your country. Worse yet, Sunnis think Shias deserve the worst i.e. that the Shias don't deserve to exist. Can't imagine the fate of Ahmadi, Ismaili, Hazara minorities in your country."
Dear Sayan_Majumdar:
I see both our names (NOT IDs) are being used by our friends "PAKISTANI Impersonators".
Looks like they love our comments!!!
After all many Pakistanis are known worldwide just that. I said many b'coz I know there are a HANDFUL(!!!) of good ones too!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
Amit (The original One and the Fake one too)
Your are foolish to reproduce so many videos and rants. You could do yourself a favor by conducting yourself more like a balanced adult.
What you Paki and Indian guys are all doing is to abuse the forum.
Peace.
TSneddon:
I respectfully disagree with you.
My comments as also video links are NOT off-track. They are relevant to the discussion.......if you care to read!
But, you have an option......just to disregard, don't you?
Amit-Atlanta-USA ( real or fake? I think u can sense that!)
I want to notify that an impersonator is using my login ID although I have moved to Georgia. So from now onwards, anybody writing under the name of Amit-Atlanta-USA is an impersonator and Amit-Georgia-USA will be me. And I hope this impersonator does not move to Georgia. I will have to go find some other place. Damn this impersonator. He has ruined my life.
GREAT JOB FRIEND......Amit-Georgia-USA from Pakistan!!!
You makes me feel very important!
I am Amit-Atlanta-USA, has been so for the past several years and will remain so!
Pakis are coward born to enuch and hate ..they hate India but speak there language wear there clothes enjoy there culture... pakis have borrowed or forced religion ... stolen language ...country who dosnt have any economy ,, no industry ..country only export is terrorism .. no respect for pakistanis in any country .. 95% of pakis lives of welfare and food stamps in west .. i hope gd luck to this country hope in next 65 years there is something called paksitan
We the Indians are always talking about economy. For us, money is everything. Here is the link where you can learn why India has such a small girl to boy ratio in the world. Once an India always an Indian. You cannot change our mentality. The low lives we are. The shame....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13264301
You can read how we are killing our unwanted girls. You think a good economy can change our mentality? We are a nation of greedy, ugly, .indecent men...who have no respect for our own women, much less for others.
It is high time for CNN moderators to accept comments only after log-in. Even better option will be to (temporarily) revoke the member accounts, and request fresh sigh-in, as I have been informed from reliable source that hackers are quite capable of accessing at least the personal E-mail IDs of the CNN members.
And yes, validate the E-mail ID at least once before starting accepting comments. Let this thread be an eye opener as to how blogs can be misused.
Sayan.
If the CNN moderator were paying attention, they would have revoked the accounts of 99% of Indians posting their posts here. Their indecent language would never be accepted in good quality papers like BBC. Everybody knows the CNN moderators are all Indians. Only slum dogs and low life donkeys can tolerate this kind of language.
Oh, we have a hater in our midst. Would it be a surprise if he comes from a radicalized country whose name starts with P and ends with N?
The whole world knows that its USA who is waging illegitimate wars against Iraq and Afghanistan and also supports Israel when it commits atrocities against the people of Palestine. But we the Indians have no problem with it. The American people do not want these wars to continue because it is wasting their hard earned tax dollars and also killing innocent civilian population in the name of WOT. But we Indians do not have any problem with that, In fact we support Israel in its cause. In fact, Israel and India are blood brothers. For we have the napak blood of Muslims in our hands. We are committing atrocities in Kashmere and we want USA to support us just as it is supporting Israel. But the problem is the Afghan war and the fact that USA has to take Pakistan's help to restore peace in the region and stop the war...and focus on us...and take help from pakistan from one hand and bomb Pakistan with the other. Although it is not possible and it does not make sense too. But why do I have to care? I am an Indian? You think drinking cow's pee every morning make any sense? duh...Anyway don't try to change the topic. Lets focus on the real problem. How to make USA take help from Pakistan and then keep bombing it side by side? I just want to take a good night sleep now and don't want to think about Pakistan but the problem is it keeps coming back in my dreams. Last time I checked with my psychotherapist, he told me that its not Pakistan, its my guilt which comes in my dream. The guilt of occupying Kashmere against the wishes of its people and committing atrocities although all they want from me is freedom. But I don't get it? Please USA help me. Please bomb Pakistan and help me get rid of my guilt.
Another fake post in my name, although the literal signature cannot be faked.
It is high time for CNN moderators to accept comments only after log-in. Even better option will be to temporarily revoke the member accounts, and request fresh sigh-in, as I have been informed from reliable source that hackers are quite capable of accessing at least the personal E-mail IDs of the CNN members.
Sayan.
I dont understand how can a country so shameless living of free money , food and no gd hospitals ..no trains..electricty ..water .. men walking in parachute pants women in bed sheets ... ooooooops i forgot Pakistanis are still living in stone age lol
Talking about the hospitals .... You mean the fire that broke out in the Hospital basement which killed so many patients? And the Hospital management was using the basement illegally? Oh that did not happen in Pakistan. It happened in India. Now I know the Indians don't have any shame otherwise right now they should be fixing their own problems, instead of looking at others. Shame on Indians.
@ worthless Pakistani impersonator, you are basically an idiot with low IQ. Nobody is afraid of a failed State or its proponents. Yet look what you have done, drawn abuses across the forum towards you and your nation at your own fault.
About the database, leave the judgement to CNN moderators, whether it was hacked or a different IP was used to create mischief. The point is you are coward and ignorant enough to face the unpleasant truths.
Sayan.
hahahahaha i think Fake Indian ( mr atlanta amit ) ran away like his coward porky army .. what can you do its in there blood 🙂
UR PAKISTANI WHEN U JERK OFF TO BEASTIALITY BUT COVER UR WOMEN WITH BLACK TENTS
UR PAKISTANI WHEN U SELL UR WIVES FOR LIL BOYS
UR PAKISTANI WHEN U ENJOY DONKEYS AND GOATS COMPANY MORE THEN FEMALES
UR PAKISTANI WHEN MEN WALK AROUND IN LADY PANTS BUT WOMEN IN BED SHEETS
HAHAHAHA MY GREAT NATION
UR PAKISTANI WHEN YOU USE TYRES TO BURN THEN TRAVEL
U COOK UR FATHER FOR DINNER
U MARRY U SISTER WHEN BEFORE SHE TURNS 15
U USE INDIAN NAMES ON NEWS FORUMS
U CALL ALL MUSLIMS BROTHERS BUT KILL SHIAS, AHMADIS AND ISMAILIES
U BOMB GIRL SCHOOLS AND MALLS
U PAKISTANI WHEN YOU SELL YOUR COUNTRY TO INDIANS BOOKIES
DIL DIL PAKISTAN
ABBU GANDU AMMI RAND 🙂
WE PAKISTANIS ARE COWARD ENUCH ... THING IS WE ARE BORN TO SIBLINGS AND OUR BRAINS ARE NOT FULLY DEVELOPED .. THATS WHY WE ENJOY ANIMAL SEX.. MORE THEN HUMAN SEX ...
MY BROTHER START DOING ME WHEN I WAS 10 .. AND FATHER WHEN I WAS 18
MY AMMI AND BHAI JANN GOT MARRIED LAST YEAR TOO .. IT WAS AMAZING WEDDING 🙂
Moderators protect CNN databases, hackers can access the accounts of others and use/twist them.
One of my recent posts is not mine.
Sayan.
MY GREAT NATION PAKISTAN ...
DROPPED THERE 90000 SALWAARS IN FRONT OF FEW HUNDERED INDIAN SOLDIERS AND BENGLADESH WAS BORN
THEN WE PAKISTANIES DENIED PICKING BODIES OF OUR 15000 PIGS SHOT DEAD BY INDIAN SOLDIERS AT KARGIL
WE PAKISTANIES ARE SCARED TO GIVE OUR REALL NAMES SO WE USE INDIAN NAMES .. AS THEY SOUND BETTER 😉
I agree with Amit-Atlanta -India when he says that America should stop all its war against Muslim countries and stop backing and funding Israel in its brutalities against the innocent people of Palestine.
Moderators protect CNN databases, hackers can access the accounts of others and use/twist them.
This posts is not mine.
Sayan.
Aw poor naive scared Sayan. He is shooo scared. Little kitty.....nobody touched the database. Anybody can change their names including your own. I know why you are so scared. You can't afford to displease your granpa Israel? Now now Now ....Remember the spider web thingi you were talking about? This was the spider web, you got trapped in. Good luck and enjoy your day shivering of fear.
Well this is a BOMBSHELL, the (in) famous Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan reportedly sold nuclear centrifuge designs even to India (based on circumstantial evidence), although to be fair he did not confess the aforesaid fact.
A.Q. Khan is a much more colourful character than usually perceived.
With these kind of “jewels” in Pakistani establishment (past, present & future….)
Sayan.
The mention of the name Pakistan is a bombshell for every Indian. Brother Sayan....listen there is nobody even reading your comments here. It is just you and the other Salwar poet guy and me posting here. I am also leaving now. Peace.
waoo dude this aisha begum and salwaar person grilled your lil porky arss hahahahahaha i think you ran away like your army lol
MY AMAZING COUNTRY PAKISTAN
ELECTRICITY COMES FROM INDIA
WATER COMES FROM INDIA
FOOD COMES FROM UNO
MONEY COMES FROM USA
WEAPONS FROM CHINA
OUR WOMEN MAKE MONEY POSING NUDE ON INDIAN MAGAZINES
OUR ARTIST SUCK INDIAN D**K TO MAKE LIVING
DIL DIL PAKISTAN
SALWAAR KHULLI MARRO GAND 🙂
Would you please be nice enough to tell me why I have lost my sleep because of these Pakistanis? Why I am so sleep deprived? Why there is no peace in my life. Why I can't help stop thinking and worrying and posting about these Pakistanis? Why have they become so important to me?
PAKISTAN
SOLD THEIR LAND TO CHINA
PPLE TO AMERICA ( DRONES)
CRICKET TO INDIAN BOOKIES .
WOMEN TO ARABS
SOUL TO TALIBAN
EVERYTHING IS FOR SALE IN MY NAPAK COUNTRY 🙂
But why is it that these Pakistani have made all of us Indians lose our sleep? Why do they bother us so much that we have to waste all day posting and showing their reality? Why they have made us so afraid that we want America to fight the war with Pakistan for us? Why they even haunt us in our dreams? Why do we have to read their English daily newspapers everyday? Why are they so important to us? Why o why? Would someone please tell me so I can leave this computer right now and take some break?
You know you a pakistani when 1. You own $ 300 machine gun & a $5000 rocket launcher but run around barefoot. 2 You have more wives than teeth. 3 You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof & suicide. 4 You can't think of anyone u haven't declared Jihad on. 5 You consider TV dangerous but routinely carry ammunition in your underwear . 6 You are amazed to discover that mobile phones have uses other than setting off road-side bombs. 7 You refine cocaine for a living but have a moral objection to drinking beer.
You know you are an Indian when 1- You post a comment on CNN about Pakistan 2- It makes no sense 3- it only shows Indian hatred for Pakistan 4- it is always against the interest of Americans 5- it always urges the Americans to start a war with Pakistan
Indians Please get some life
My abbu got 5 wives .. he married his sister .. then a donkey ..i married my brother ..then he married a goat ..
we all share our salwaars ..my abbu wears mine .. my brother cum husband wears black tents ... one big happy inbred family 🙂
I want to notify CNN that some Amit-Atlanta-USA is writing some comments under my name. I do not own them. I really want to tell you guys that he is writing these comments on his own. He wants to tell everybody that I am an Indian. I must remind everyone that Amit is not my real name. I am an American who knows Urdu very well. I also know Hindi. And my complexion is very light because I am a white guy. You see? I am not an Indian and the only reason I like to write so much about Pakistan is so that my American friends know that how dark and ugly Pakistanis are, because they all have Indian roots in them.
When the spider designs and builds her web, a point comes when she becomes oblivious of her initial point. Got my point, member of impersonator club?
Sayan.
The spider has done her job. Have a great day. Bye.
Pakistan is the biggest terrorist country in the world now. Every body knows that...even US knows that....but US need Pakistan land and air to fight against Afgan...Once Afgan war is over...US will declare war against Pakistan for sure. Pakistan knows that..thats y Pakistan looking to make friends with China.....
Yes you are right. All the Americans know that Pakistanis are terrorists. For example Amit-Atlanta-USA knows that. jagjit-Memphis-USA knows that. Hari-Miami-USA knows that. Peter-mumbai-USA knows that. Oh I am sorry Mumbai is not in USA. But he sure knows that. And he is an American too. And he is white. You see his name? Peter? That suggests he is a white American citizen who does not even use fair and lovely skin lightening cream. He also knows that Pakistan is a terrorist country. And who else? Yes yes Manesh-Hartford-USA also knows that Pakistan is a terrorist country.
as pakistani i am pround of our salwaar and black tent heritage... salwaar help our coward soldiers to run easy and black tents help our sisters cum wives ... to hide there face in shame 🙂
Moderators take note, somebody (Amit-Atlanta-US) impersonating as an Indian and consciously destroying the sprit and standard of the blog.
Sayan.
I don't know what's the matter with us Indians. Why it makes us happy to think that Pakistan is not a friend with USA any more. Why do we even care? Like we don't have anything better to do. I have been posting and posting anti-Pakistan stuff all my life but look at me. I am such a loser. Please Indians stop drinking home made alcohol with cow's p. Otherwise you will be doing the same thing. Please get some life my Indian brothers. At least your wife loves. Even my own wife hates me because thats what I do all night. Post and post anti Pakistan comments and I don't have a job. I mean I do have a job but who cares. My Indian employers only hire Indians so i am always on the net, posting these comments. But my wife thinks that I need to change my lifestyle.
You are not a good impersonator after all, you are not an Indian.
Sayan.
Yes he is not a good impersonator. I am a real good impersonator. I am an Indian and I pretend to be a friend of American people which I am not. I have been posting links about Pakistan to prove it to my American friends that Pakistan is not their real friend and they need to wage a war against Pakistan. In doing that, I forget to mention that war is not good for any economy. Americans have lost millions of dollars in these senseless and endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And they have made so many enemies in the meanwhile. Last thing they need is to start another war and make another enemy. There is no good war and there is no bad peace. But I am such a good impersonator, I pretend like a friend but I am doing the job of an enemy.
America should stop funding Israel, backing Israel and supporting Israel against its atrocities against the people of Palestine.
Successive United Administration has displayed “fatal attraction” to Pakistan in spite of being cheated repeatedly, Pakistan has its own fish to fry.
Deeply immersed in identity crisis after segregating from India on religious grounds, fundamentalism serves as the lifeline to Pakistan.
Looking from American perspective one should realise that, for Pakistan the “reset button” does NOT exist.
Sayan.
How can you and I look from an American perspective? We are both Indians. At least change your name before posting this comment. You make us all Indians look dumb. Not that we didn't. We always dud. But when you talk about American perspective without changing your Indian ID, makes us look more dumb.
@Amit-Atlanta-US, I am the kind of person who is not afraid to reveal identity and need not hide behind Pseudonyms.
And also one need not be an American citizen to understand American perspective, in fact I am privileged enough to be acquainted with persons of multiple nations including quite a few Americans.
Sayan.
Sayan,
Look brother, no offence but whatever you are writing is not in the interest of Americans. Even if you have dual nationalities of India and USA, you will always think like an Indian. Lets break it down.
a- Who wants to start a war between USA and Pakistan?
Pakistanis = no
Americans = no (they don't want their tax money to be wasted in another senseless war)
Indians = Sure (what do we have to lose)
b- Who wants good relations between pakistan and USA?
Pakistanis – yes
Americans – yes
Indians – no
So my brother, my polite request was stop giving American perspective because you are highly incapable of doing that.
The United States has agreed to pay Pakistan 1.6 billion dollars plus $1,500.00 per container going into Pakistan. An undisclosed amount that runs in the millions for containers already delivered will also be paid to Pakistan.
They will open the border once the payment comes through.
Did you even read the article my dear Indian brother? You make us Indians so dumb. Please stop making comments which support Pakistan's argument.
hitler was supported by lots of americans. l\henryy ford was a big supporter of hitler.. ford co supplied many resources to nazzis...etc....
Pakistan has kissed good by to American war of terror and so called American "AIDS", Have a nice war of terror Ameria and disappointment to hindus of hindered land called India. Rehman does not represent people of Pakistan but Zardari , a western agent, soon to be behind bars for treason against Pakistan.
Absolutely NOT!
Over 9,000 Pakistani soldiers killed by Taliban during the last ten years including many generals. Which other nation has sacrificed so much to save American lives? This Indian troll is trying to demonize Pakistan so that American people do not get to realize that China and India are the real enemies of America, one has taken most of the manufacturing jobs and the other has take the high tech jobs making millions of Americans jobless as they can not compete with the slave and child labor.
AmitAtlanta, how is Taliban office in Qatar a clever act of US? The
clever act of US is that it created, funded, trained and armed
Taliban to fight the Russians in 80's and after Russians left, US dumped
Talibans in Pakistan where they have killed over 40,000 innocent
Pakistani civilians + over 9,000 Pakistani soldiers and has cost
Pakistan's economy over $80 Billion during the last ten years and US still balms Pakistan for the mess which US created, that really is clever. Yet US
is ungrateful of Pakistani sacrifices and gets upset when Pakistan tries
to negotiate peace with Taliban BUT deems it appropriate to have a
Taliban office next to "forward headquarters of the U.S. Central
Command". Its seems like Taliban are a branch of US army and US is forcing Pakistan to fight this branch of US army while they have Taliban office next to US army office. The anti-Pakistan and war mongering propaganda corporation
you work for should fire you for exposing your self and them as real culprits!
I reproduce below a highly though provoking, factual response from Mr.Michael Steele on the WSJ dated Sept 28th 2011 regarding Pakistan and their culture of lies (Taqiyya) approps Ad.Mullen's comments on the Haqqani Terrorists calling them a veritable arm of the Pakistani ISI & Govt.
PLEASE READ THIS FULLY
Regarding your “How Pakistan Lost Its Top US Friend”, (Barnes and Entous article, 28 Sep 2011), both your article and Adm Mullen exemplify the fundamental naivety and failure of US foreign policy from Rabat to Rawalpindi for the last hundred years. I have grieved over the dearth of Mid-East and Islamic expertise evinced in successive presidential administrations since WW-II.
Our entire foreign policy with this part of the world has been based on totally naive and unrealistic assumptions. It has been founded in our own culture’s axioms and assumptions when dealing with European friends and adversaries, with no regard for the Muslim world’s or Eastern world’s view of us and what drives how they deal with us. In short, Muslim dealings with the West, and the US in particular, have been laced with duplicity and deceit. Rarely do Muslim countries ever see us as more than an expedient association and never a true friend.
There are many good works on Arab and Islamic culture available, but most any graduate of the US Army, Defense Language Institute-Foreign Language Center (DLI-FLC), at the Presidio of Monterey, CA, and the US Army’s Mid-East Psychological Operations School, at the JFK Special Warfare Center (JFK-SWC), Fort Bragg, North Carolina, will tell you that, when dealing with Muslims, everyone should begin with completely digesting and studying the Quran and reading Rapael Patai’s, “The Arab Mind”, (Scribner’s & Sons, New York, 1973, 1976 & 1983).
Religion is a core value. Any psychological warfare specialist will tell you to never attempt to assault or change the core values of a target audience, because you will immediately alienate your audience, lose all credibility and instill deep distrust. So what do our White House, Congress and State Department do? They tell the world and Muslims that they must change ancient cultural practices; publicly calling them barbaric (which they are), causing them to lose face and creating deep distrust, antipathy and hatred.
Furthermore, Muslims see us as interlopers at best, but predominantly as blood enemies of Islam. In deed the West’s history and rhetoric underscores that belief. The word “infidel” has been bandied about for so long in everyone’s description of how Muslims view us, that the word has lost its true impact as borne in the Muslim mind. An infidel to a Muslim is like the “Anti-Christ” is to Christians. We are Beelzebub incarnate.
Muslims also have a long history of dealing with the world from a weaker and/or impoverished position, particularly the Shia. Muslims, have also, usually been caught between contending powers and/or external and internal rivalries. Coupled with Quranic permission to lie to and to deceive infidels, Muslims have long understood and practiced telling the West what it wants to hear, and living up to their words, only when it was expedient or advantageous. Meanwhile, they are busy behind the scenes mending fences and paying off internal or regional hard-liners and fundamentalists and our enemies. One must always remember that lying is an art form in the Muslim world. Examples are everywhere throughout our history with them. Yet we are always surprised, astounded and jilted, when Muslim deceit and duplicity is outed.
Our failures in the Muslim world will only continue and exacerbate until the White House and State Department get rid of the starry-eyed liberals who, like Adm Mullen, tragically and ignorantly treat, hearts a twitter, with Muslims as if we share common values and views. To succeed, we must employ hard-bitten and pragmatic people with true, unvarnished knowledge and understanding of Arab and S.W. Asian Muslims.
Respectfully,
Mike and Robyn Steele
Midway, Georgia
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How can one fail to understand that a fight against terrorists IS NOT a fight against the religion itself. Importantly though the religion was abused and hijacked by these rogues – whom at the same time label themselves as pious muslim – a justification for their repugnant means to garner support of their detestable actions.
Or
"Abhorrent cultural practices" that are allowed to pervade in it society without fail and without any sight of stemming its spread?
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I feel so bad. Nobody even bothers to read my posts.
Some IMPOSTOR trying to be me posted the following msg.!!!
"I feel so bad. Nobody even bothers to read my posts."
Thanks Bud, you make me feel very important!
The picture depicts a rally addressed by Imran Khan the leader of the PTI. While Imran Khan and his young & educated Pakistanis (see pic) style themselves as moderates who are willing to start a dialogue with the west, if you examine their grievances closely it's no different from those of the Koranic foot soldiers fighting in the ravines of Af-Pak or even that of CNN's own Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9fW9jPnjgE
I am tired of writing on this subject and am reproducing what I wrote sometime back. But plz. don't miss out on the videos!
So I just say this:
Stay ENGAGED with Pakistan (Endlessly!) – If our ultimate aim is to COMMIT SUICIDE
CONTAIN – If we are serious about RIDDING THE FREE WORLD of Pak inspired terror, and eliminate the threat of their ISLAMIC BOMB!
Check out the following and decide for yourselves whether to contain or engage Pakistan:
PAKISTAN-THE ALLY FROM HELL-TheAtlantic.com 11-04-11 ABSOLUTELY GREATEST
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/11/the-atlantic-cover-story-pakistan-the-ally-from-hell/247886/
AMERICA and the ISLAMIC BOMB – THE DEADLY COMPROMISE by David Armstrong
http://books.google.com/books?id=b28qAAAAYAAJ&q=america+and+the+ISLAMIC+BOMB&dq=america+and+the+ISLAMIC+BOMB&hl=en&ei=i4y5Tv_AEc6atwey0ZnKBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA
AMERICA ALONE – THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE SEE IT by Mark Steyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_Alone
Here’s an ABSOLUTELY GREAT “MUST WATCH” video from a well known Astrologist PREDICTING way back in 2009 the INEVITABLE GREAT CLASH between AMERICA & PAKISTAN in 2012 leading to the DESTRUCTION OF THE PAKISTANI STATE!!!
Even though I am myself deeply skeptical about astrological predictions, it’s ASTOUNDING to see how this ASTROLOGIST analyzes the unfolding sequence of events dwelling on both THE PAKISTANI PSYCHE (of DECIET & GREED) with the astrological line up for the Pakistani state. If we look at the EVENTS UNFOLDING RIGHT NOW we can very well see JUST HOW ACCURATE THE PREDICTIONS SEEM!!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=oYymPzrnK5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYymPzrnK5g
Gando Ram is at work......bravo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBy_OIJM6Q
you can reset or set or upset..its all the same with pak...they are a beggar nation that exports terror..thats what they have been doing since the day they were created...they have never ever been known for hard work or attempting to develop new technology or world rankings...its in their DNA to just beg and terroize..they will never do anything constructive..they never have...
A typical indian mentality, always against Pakistan.
Ron Paul is right. We must be completely crazy to literally handover 7 BILLION of our tax dollars annually to support a country of which every inhabitant HATES us. It almost makes me cry that I have to contribute to that nonsense every day by dragging my butt out of my bed at 6:00AM in the morning, to get on my way to a job I hate, though which I have to earn the money to contribute to it all. This is an OUTRAGE. Dreamed up by our members of congress enjoying their lofty pay and benefit packages, AND cozy limo with driver, ALSO paid for by us schlobs. Every member in congress who voted to support this Pakistan BS should be in JAIL!
what about trillions theyalready burned inAfghanistan and iraq? then the whole congress should go to jail.
$700 millions in aids is peanuts for a country of Pakistan's size. Which world are we living in? Reality is that we cant pull out of the region (namely Afghanistan) and we cant cut ties with Pakistan either and declare them enemy. They are sitting next to China... and have openly called them 'time tested friend'. Any vaccum will allow china to move in. Chinese would not let Pakistan fall even if US pulls out completely and dont give a dime in aid cuz they need distraction for India, and what better distraction than Pakistan? Fact is that regional politics are complicated. Pakistan is not going anywhere... we give them aid or not. Aid goes to corrupt politicians who fatten up their foreign accounts and move away anyways. In the end, its us, the taxpayers who foot the bill. We need to start a dialogue with Taliban, who Pakistan supports but never admits too... but first we need to find their true representative. Hopefully Qatar can help with that. Who ever thinks Pakistan will sink because of $700 mil is living in a fools paradise.
Do we really care if China would move into that sewer called Pakistan? it always amuses me to see how worried people are that we might leave a "vacuum" when we withdraw from these failed states. That fear is what got us into Vietnam in the sixties.. Ads when we left, did the Chinese move in? not at all. That country is now one of the more stable parts of the world. And even IF the Chinese , or Russians, or whomever, want to move into those sewer states, what do we care? Do we really believe the US woudl be even the slightest tbit less secure becauae of that? You really think the Chinese would want to do anything stupid? The US with its nucrear stockpile is, and will be the most feared military might int he world, and NO country will be stupid enough to undertake anything directly against us. it is time we, the US, start having some more self esteem about our abilities again, instead of constantly being feared what these third-world countries might "do" to us, and invading (or supporting) them as a result. STOP being afraid of everything all the time!
Actually, making her Amabassador to the US is just another jab at the US. Really, she's a staunch supported on issues that will gain absolutely zero traction in Pakistan. Everyone knows this... the Pakistanis think that they can blow one over us by putting a friendly face on rotten govt. And to be clear, this jab is squarely at the American public with most likely some back-door suggestions from our own politicians. The goal being to snooker the American public into believing that it's ok to fork over countless millions/billions to Pakistan because they "really" care about human rights and their country's livelihood.
LOL Pakistan. Blow it out of existence already.
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Pakistan is NOT our friend. Oh sure, they will throw us a bone every now and then and turn over a low-level Al Quaeda operative. But, for the most part, it protects the Taliban and high-ranking members of Al Quaeda. We should remain "allies," but still keep them at arms-length.
If you consider Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (master mind of 911 whom Pakistan arrested and handed over to US) a low level "BONE" then either you have not idea what you are talking about or the stuff your are smoking is too strong for your.
If you ask me Pakistan is really upset because we got Bin Laden who they were protecting, if they were truly our allys they would of given that Pakistani doctor who helped us get him a medal. They are two faced and underhanded
Yes, Its really me; I have decided to speak up. Pakistan needs help and really bad. They have destroyed themselves in the name of Islam and that greatly troubles me. Please help them like what you did to Japan .. McArthur plan? which tamed a martial race to the most efficient one; Similarly convert this errant association of peoples (namely Pakistan) to be remotely productive and useful. Oh! America .... you can do it .... do it for me (and yes, this is Allah talking to you for sure).
No They destroyed themselves by aligning with America .
No they they destroyed themselves by not cleaning up their own mess. The American's made the Mujahadeen. A combination of Pushtin Afghanis and members of the Northern Alliance. Once the Soviets left the Paks backed the Pushtin fighters during the Afghan civil war which became the Taliban. Pakistan has an air force. Why didn't they pursue Taliban targets in Warzistan? Why did the US need to use drones to attack targets in this province and make the US look like an enemy. Send her back to Pakistan!!!
Reality (whatever), you are assuming that Pakistan had anything going for them before we came along. They didn't. From the moment they were given their independence, they have been at war with their neighbors, ignoring their domestic affairs and denying law and order unless it came from the military. It is a lawless nation much like Afghanistan, only they have nuclear weapons. We send aid to Pakistan in order to help them maintain a military which takes care of their nuclear weapons. They absolutely need our money as they have vitually no legitimate exports so they have no money coming in, outside of the opium trade and the human trade. The United States absolutely does not need Pakistan. I mean really!!!! What on Earth do you think they have that we need? Rocks? Dirt? Goats? By the way, I will ignore your cost of services comment, because it really hits a dum nerve and I don't want to focus on ignorance in this post. Just suffice to say that the money we were sending to the Pakis was for the use of a base, not services. Sheessh. The money is on hold now because they asked us to cease operations from that base. All of this information is available just by going to Google and looking it up. Why assume "reality"? Lets just look at the facts.
Edward Demming deserves more praise than Macarthur for Japan's success.
Pakistan would be a beautiful country . . . . if it was covered by 18-24 inches of black glass.
I agree, they just want to kill more Americans and make us spend more money. We don't even belong there we look like crusaders.
You could also say that the USA would be a beautiful country if covered in 18 to 24 inches of glass. What you really mean is that you, Mike, are a psychotic nut job.
True dat!
I agree with my twin Mike.....beautiful black glass.....don't leave any of them standing so they don't go on jihad in the name of Mooooooooo-HAHAHA-MAD
What makes you believe that you can not become glass ?
Pakistanis want money??? really ?? their military leadership and strong opposition parties have said "no" to "US Aid." Corrupt politicians ( and Sherry Rahman included) of the weak ruling Govt (which is likely to be dissolved in a matter of days) need aid to transfer to their swiss accounts or give out subsidies to earn some possible votes in future.
No electricity, No gas, No CNG. Only 40 freight trains of a fleet of 120 run today. Your military spending is a higher % of your GDP than your education spending. Your girl child is consistently ignored. Out of a population of 170 Million, 40 Million kids will not finish high school.
This is what your megalomaniacal military brought upon you. Don't see it? Sure, I can empathize with you for you have been brainwashed systematically since the days of your president Zia-Ul-Haq. Religion, you claim will solve everything for you. You insist on hating minorities including Hindus, Christians, Sikhs in your country. Worse yet, Soonni think Shea deserve the worst. Can't imagine the fate of Ahmadi, Ismaili, Hazara minorities in your country.
Pretty dumb to want to keep giving them billions of dollars every year.
No body needs your money, Its you who need Pakistan and Pakistan is just asking for cost of services which they provide.
Pakistanis are terrorists and only thing you care about is breeding terrorists.
US needs Pakistan. It is taught in US business courses that you eliminate threat first. You can not kill the whole country at once but you can strategically slave them slowly by many ways including pressure, aids, sanctions, military power etc. It's along term goal US has. Pakistan has been a dependent country from the start and did very little to stand up on its own. Pakistan is volatile but has a lot of potential with manpower and natural resources. Pakistani people need to learn how to be self dependent with their own people and resources and world will come out and help them...otherwise it's a lost battle and things are getting worst.
I know personally that majority of Pakistani are good people with lack of system in place in their country. Same people when go abroad, do great job in all fields.
@Reality: Your right and you are wrong there. Pakistan needs the US money for a great deal number of things it could help to mitigate Pakistani tax burdens for. HOWEVER, the corrupt politicians and breaucrats it that country take what they can get away with.
So yes Pakistan needs US aid, it doesn't really get it though. If the US stopped giving aid and moved all of its military bases back to the US it would effectively start a world wide recession and regional conflicts:
Europe would have to pay for its own military defenses (something they have been able to keep low due to US military presence in most of the countries),
Africa would dive into wars over resources since most of the countries survive on US aid (the others would be swapped by refugees and war bands dropping their resources)
Middle East would spiral into a killing field. Already poor economies would plummet, they'd blame it on the US and Isreal and they'd attack Isreal.
Asia with the exception of China would have the same issues it does...but worse.
South America with the exception of Brazil would face declines less than the above countries.
In other words a domino effect of world wide stupidity, regardless of creed, color, or ethinicity. Nobody wants a handout until its gone and when they have nothing left they'll steal it from somebody. And that is just human nature.
@All
Those terrorists were sponsored by America against Soviets, Once Soviets left there was no body to take care of those fanatics, The Saudi money further deteriorated the situation, They sponsored thousands of Madarsas in border regions where 10 million Afghan refugees were present. There is no other option except sending those refugees back to Afghanistan because they are the main reason for extrimism in Pakistan.
Like protecting osama bin ladin?
Pakistan stock is falling everyday as 2014 approaches and the American public want to withdraw their now and how did Mullah Omar hook up with Pakistan's paramilitary Haqqani network used in Kashmir? At a leadership conference in Warzistan? HMMM?
Stop pretending that you re giving money to Pakistan. You are only giving money to the corrupt politicins who you upport. The people of Pakisatn do anot need any money from USA. Just friendship based on mutual respect.
Agreed with Bobby. Nothing is free in America so how can Billions!
Who's pretending? People actually representing the US don't say that. The US pays Pakistan those billions of dollars based on whether or not they fulfill certain requirements established. Most of what is sent is to the military to train and equip their soldiers to fight regional tribal factions, that is not exactly a secret.
Also that Pakistan has greedy and corrupt politicians is not a secret (nor should it be, look at any other country). Those officials get away with it by keeping normal pakistanis less informed and less educated than the rest of the world.
The people of Pakistan certainly need money from whereever they can get it. Friendship and respect are earned. Mutual respect? Pakistan clear doesn't respect the US when bin Laden is hiding 10 miles from their premeier military academy for 10 years. That would be like Hitler 10 miles from West Point, you're telling me the the US wouldn't know? Nope, someone in the ISI decided to line their pockets and not reveal that information.