Iran's new show of force
Iran fires a mid-range missile during its naval exercises in the Persian Gulf
January 3rd, 2012
06:00 AM ET

Iran's new show of force

By CNN's Charley Keyes

Note to American diplomats: An old Iranian saying may carry a message for a new year.

"There's on old Persian expression that when you have a wildcat trapped in a room, you need to leave a door open to let it out," Carnegie Endowment analyst Karim Sadjadpour said.

The New Year has dawned with new saber-rattling from Iranian leaders, new displays of its military hardware and new claims of progress in its nuclear program. All this comes amidst new frustration in the United States about how to tighten the screws on the Iranian economy.

With the U.S. and allies working to isolate Iran's Central Bank and to impose additional restrictions on various high-ranking individuals and institutions, exits are slamming shut.

"The question is: What is the way out for the Iranian regime?" Sadjadpour said. "Can the Obama administration allow the Iranian regime a diplomatic way out in order for it to save face?"

And Iran must plot its course of whether to submit to pressure or resist.

"The strategy of the Obama administration is to try to exact enough pressure on Iran to try to get it to make meaningful nuclear compromises," Sadjadpour said. "The question is whether outside pressure will compel Iran to compromise on its nuclear program or go for a nuclear bomb in order to fend off nuclear pressure."

Iran has been testing missiles in recent days during naval exercises in the Strait of Hormuz, claiming that its long range Qadar sea-to-shore missile and surface Nour hit their targets.

The state news agency said the missiles and tests of torpedoes are fresh evidence that Iran could halt any movement in that major oil supply route for the West, prompting the French Foreign Ministry to call the weapons tests a very bad signal to the international community.

David Albright, a longtime observer of Iranian claims about its nuclear accomplishments, said the announcement was the expected follow-though on one Iran made a couple of years ago. He called it an effort to "restore credibility, to show they have the technology now."

Iran has maintained that its nuclear development is for peaceful civilian purposes, prompting deep skepticism from the U.S. and others. Albright, founder and president of the Institute for Science and International Security, says that the fuel rods for the research reactor have nothing to do with Iran's weapons program and that it will take a year or two to see whether they work properly.

Iran has been cutting corners to make progress in its nuclear enrichment program, says Albright, and any shortcuts raise safety questions, especially with the research reactor located in highly populated Tehran.

The rhetoric, especially the threat to choke off the Strait of Hormuz, as well as the fuel rod development and new weapons tests, have raised the temperature in the early hours of 2012.

But Iranian experts say that despite showing off its missiles, Iran's defense budget is less than 2% of the U.S's. And its top-of-the-line missiles still lack the accuracy found in much of the rest of the world.

Sadjadpour says the main focus should not be on hardware but Iran's ambitions. And the U.S. must remember that with all it has invested - politically and financially - in its nuclear program, Iran will hesitate to abandon it.

For their part, U.S. politicians point to Iran's support for terrorist activities by Hamas and Hezbollah, and Iran's opposition to Israel. And in recent months there has been increasing talk that if diplomacy fails, either Israel or the United States might launch a military attack on Iran to at least delay its development of a nuclear bomb.

"My own take is that in 2012, what we can best hope for is that outside pressure and outside diplomacy will avert both a nuclear-armed Iran and a bomb on Iran." Sadjadpour said. "But there is a concern that the hardliners in Tehran will try to provoke some type of military attack on themselves for domestic political expediency. And that is trap that the United States and Israel should be careful about walking into."

CNN’s Pam Benson contributed to this story

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  1. Liaanne

    You gotta go over to the FOX News home page and read the replies vreewis have sent in, what a hoot. I just hope FOX actually passes them along to Ahmademmijohn.BTW, did anyone else catch the reference to the "hundreds of thousands" of Iranians living among us? Who will be soooooo disappointed if we don't accept his invitation? That's nice, Mahmoud. Now at least we'll know how big to build the camps.

    June 28, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Reply
  2. kanga

    There is a real danger here, the supreme leader and Ahmadinejad do not care about the people. Irans supreme leader is an old man , he has nothing to lose, his life is almost over, he does not care about the generations to come. The president Ahmadinejad thinks he is special and loves all the attention he is getting especially when he makes a threat. He also does not care for the people, he has a personal agenda and an ego problem. The only way I see our countries getting along is to get rid of all these old farts that rule the world, and put people who are young in power all over the world. The world of today has no place for these old farts and their old school way of thinking. The world needs vibrant young people with vision. All over the world there is turmoil, because these old politicians don't know anything but their old policies. They are lost they don't know what to do. I believe that young people would know what to do

    lets have a poll of sorts and give feedback on what you would do to befriend nations from all over the world and make peace.(only ages 30-40) lets call it if I were the president.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:20 am | Reply
  3. Jannsen J Thomas

    I'm not surprised at Iran flexing their collective muscle under the threat of US intervention at their nuclear program. They know that with their atrocious record of human rights abuses, sponsorship of terrorism and destructive influence on the middle-eastern geopolitical arena they will need a bargaining chip more valuable than oil. That would be supplying enriched uranium to their terrorist allies. That scares me more than their own nukes. Have a look at and you can find out more

    January 31, 2012 at 5:31 am | Reply
  4. teeheegiggle

    If Iran's game plan is to invite the world into a war with them, then Iran is stupid. That is a war that Iran will lose and lose bad. All the US has to do is drop a hydrogen bomb and half the country is gone. It's like a kid waving a stick at a tank. We all know how that would turn out once the battle begins.. lol.. The world needs to act fast before Iran becomes the next N. Korea.. they stalled the exact same way and low and behold, they developed nuclear bombs. It's just a matter of time.. and then an even bigger war will ensue causing massive financial difficulties world wide. I don't think we could support $5/litre of gasoline at the pumps.. that'll crush every economy.. it better be a swift war.

    January 21, 2012 at 12:34 am | Reply
    • Jo

      They want to be Marytrs they want to drop the bomb on Israel so they all can be Martyrs. i say drop the bomb now and give them their wish

      January 21, 2012 at 8:40 am | Reply
    • mike in wa

      If you want to bomb someone you and your country can use your own bombs since you are obviously not from the US. There is nowhere near enough military might in Iran to justify dropping a nuclear device on the country.

      January 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Reply
  5. feralMango

    Iran is merely a puppet, though it likes to fancy itself a major regional player. Its government has too much of a Napoleon complex to understand that if it isn't playing into the hands of the U.S. or the EU, its playing into the hands of China. Threatened and existing sanctions on its oil industry means that the only stable major market is to the East. China, understanding this, has the power to negotiate much lower prices since Iran has nowhere else to turn. The reason Iran is lashing out is because it has no other recourse, aside from compliance with the Western community's wishes.

    But pride is an ugly thing, and sadly, its the people who suffer in this high-stakes game of chess and dramatic political theater.

    January 16, 2012 at 1:33 am | Reply
  6. Iranisfucked

    And you know it is true!!!!

    January 15, 2012 at 4:02 am | Reply
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    January 13, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Reply
  8. Unknown

    You know, it's laughable on how people think Iran is like Syria. If the US is capable of destroying Iran, then why haven't they done it yet? The US is VERY powerful, yes, but even they have their limits. Iran is red line they cannot cross.

    If the US and Israel is SO sure Iran has nuclear weapons, then why haven't they bombed Iran yet?

    Iraq and Syria were bombed by Israel for trying to create nuclear bombs and I know for a FACT Israel did it with the permission from the States. There was no warning, no sanctions. Tell me, what makes Iran different from other countries? How come when it comes to Iran, Israel doesn't attack them but instead they use sanctions to try to "stop" Iran?

    Iran is not trying to make nuclear bombs. They already have it. The US and Israel know that no matter what happens, Iran will not stop. Sanctions are NOT going to work! Bombing them is the ONLY answer and they know that. So... why isn't anyone bombing Iran?

    I hate Iran, but even I know that attacking them is complete suicide. They can close up the strait with no trouble. Yes, the US can open them up the next day but Iran has a secret weapon.

    Two words-
    Oil spill.

    January 4, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
    • Quinterius

      Unknown: You say, "Iran is not trying to make nuclear bombs. They already have it." How do you know that? Do you have your own intelligence agents in Iran? In fact, Iran has no nukes and is not spending a penny on such weapons which are totally useless in today's world. Also, why do you "hate" Iran. What do you know about Iran? Why don't go to a Persian restaurant, have some kebab and talk to the owner. Stop believing all the Israeli and US media propaganda about Iran.

      January 4, 2012 at 11:53 am | Reply
      • Unknown

        I hate the religious government, not the people. Trust me, I don't believe shit the US or Israel tells me. In fact, I really do wish that they would wipe Israel off the map. Israel is nothing but our little "daddy!"

        On to the nukes, I meant to say that most likely that they do. But they're not going to use them. Iran has never attacked a country in over 300 years besides Iraq in 80-88. Why are they a threat? They're a threat because they want to defend their country? Like I said, I hate the how the government is VERY religious but other than that, I think we should just leave them alone and worry about our own county instead.

        January 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
      • Daniel

        The problem I see here is the following.
        1. Iran signed the NPE and reaffirmed it in 2003.
        2. Then it was released they had a reactor back in operation and were moving forward with a nuclear program, opss.
        So they said ok here are a few sites, and on a limited basis inspectors were allowed in.
        3. Now there are more undocumented sites found, oppss again! Ok well here they are but we don't want inspectors to visit them and they are on military bases.
        4. Their long range missile program springs forward in development at the same time as they are bringing up more advanced centrifuges.
        5. The governments attitude is to turn away all forms of external help, remember we offered them low lever reactor technology and would even make the fuel rods for them, but the spent rods can not be used for weapons later, so Iran denies the help.
        6. They continue to remain secretive, and defiant to UN requests.
        7. They make threats about wiping Israel off the map and sending war ships to US waters.
        8. Now they threaten maritime shipping in international waters!
        At what point do you not understand that Iran dug this hole for themselves. If they continue on in this fashion it will be bad for only themselves.

        January 4, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
      • maryam

        People dont hate ordinary Iranians let m make that clear. I like Iranian people very much, they are very much like Americans in many ways. Im telling Americans most Iranians are very nice people but I think Americans know tis. You cant judge all by a few. Iran gov does HIRE peopl to shout"death to America" and its usually their poor from small villages they bring in on busloads. Iranians do like Americans. I urge all Americans to know all cultures in our borders, most people of the world are very good people-we all have our good and bad. What I was saying in my other statement about Iran gov saying they didnt start a war–they say that to "appear" Islamic, but they HIRE people to do their dirty work, including to start wars and fights and give money to terrorists which do kill others. If they would stay out of Palestines business with their leashes on Hamas and Hizbollah-Palestine would have PEACE in no time. They allowed terrorists to hide thre in Iran and train and gave weapons to kill Afghans and Iraqi and others. I think the world has tolerated a lot from them.Persian people in general are not violent as we see with many of the Arabs.But their leadership in the Elite guard(their puppets the BASIGE) and Supreme Leader is the MAIN problem. Not their military people or most of their people. Give your hope and prayer for a free IRAN. Once the religious leaders and the Elite Guard are gone who control everything, MOST Iranians will be celebrating in the streets.So maybe th 12th Imam will mysteriously take them ot one by one if we have a universal prayer for it. 😉 Love Iranians , Love people in countries who are oppressed by religious radicals. FREE PALESTINE FROM IRAN AND HAMAS! Take Hizbollah with you for a free Lebanon! The real Satan is on his way, not the 12th Imam, he is the SATAN within your hateful, murderous souls who have destroyed lives with your lies about religion. Radical Islam is its own religion. Islam of Peace will prevail or else you will see Muslims leave it. Radicals, give it up! Go home to your families and raise them with good hearts, minds and souls, because non Muslim and Muslim alike are all GODS children!

        January 5, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
      • ep tor

        The Iranians may use thier secret WMDs: they could utilize the many Iranian sorcerers and witches to attack the US with hexes and support that assault with a mass exposure of Iranian womens cleavage in the general direction of the US which would cause earthquakes, havoc and widespread mass hysteria in the US. The Iranian authorities have admitted to the existence and power of these WMD's in their possesion and the US needs to do something to counter them before it is too late!

        January 6, 2012 at 3:46 am |
    • maryam

      Because US tries other ways FIRST usually, dialogue didnt work, minor sanctions didnt work.Iran has threatened people, they have caused lives to be lost in US, Afghanistan, Saudia, Iraq, Afghanistan and in every Arab Spring because they have been found there interfering and have been told to get out, EVEN from Syria.They support terrorism, but say to their people"we have never started a war"its not Islamic. But MOST of Irans people ARE NOT stupid. Because they also have been lied to and manipulated. Religious radical exist in many countries, and THEY are the ones who will be taken out on by one, BY THEIR OWN people, because they have destroyed ehe peaceful part of Islam that most Muslims adhere to . Iran is getting its way in the Arab Spring-Islamists are taking charge and will lie to keep the votes just as Mullahs of Iran lied to Iranians after the revolution and EVER SINCE.Muslims are taking back their countries, and many are leaving Islam to a more peaceful and rational life. BLAME HAMAS< HIZZBOLLAH< AL QAEDA AND TALIBAN AND OTHER RADICALS LIKE THEM, including wacked out Anjem Choudary.Western and Scandinaviamn countries need to change your laws so that you dont have to tolerate sharia law and that all faiths and non faiths obey your countries laws with NO EXCEPTION. Millions of Muslims in western lands but how many faiths in Muslim lands? WAKE UP! There is a reason! All non Muslims should leave those lands, let them have each other, let them weed out their own radicals. Put up your fences, guard your borders. Not due to fear, not to blame all Muslims(there is not a war on Islam, many Muslims are great people)–but due to the fact you should use preventative measures for the future. If they cant get in, if they cant penetrate your waters or transportations etc, you wont have to after them in other countries anymore. If the people of those countries cant take destroy their own radicals, then their children will not have good futures.If they allow them to stay, then thy will suffer the consequences. Sounds like someone in Pakistan is making deals to get the Pak Taliban out of their country....Afghans dont want you there got it? Manage your own criminals!

      January 5, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Reply
      • MIke

        Well, I don't know about the breast alignment weapon, but I know for a fact that the Iranian's have a sercret, enriched, mutiply position camel toe WMD. They put all their CT women in a circle and on the final count, they all lift up their burka, to expose the CT to the world. Over 360deg;s are covered with camel toeage. It' an awful and frightful sign. Few would survive.

        January 23, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • stay stupid zionists like you stupid

      the whole world hates you and israel

      January 15, 2012 at 7:21 am | Reply
    • Jo

      The ship to ship missles that Iran currently hold don't have nough striking power to penetrate the dual hulls of these tankers, and that's on the chance that they can even hit them. we have countermeasures very close by to prevent missle strikes on the tankers. Trust me

      January 21, 2012 at 8:46 am | Reply

    Good luck and love from the American people.
    The people of Iran are wonderfull.
    Its your leaders, not unlike ours, who are a problem,
    Peace and friendship.

    January 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Reply
    • J.R.

      The US leadership is unlike Iran's in that it is not a threat to global peace. Iran's leadership has in fact, at every possible step, obstructed inspectors, attempted to misguide them, etc. It is time to crank up the pressure on Iran and as a full blown conservative, I'm proud of the way President Obama is handling this very delicate issue. He's doing a great job right now by tightening up the screws to the Iranian machine rather than trying to dismantle it.

      January 4, 2012 at 8:33 am | Reply
      • JN

        US leaders not a threat to global peace? WHAT? I'm pretty sure US leaders were behind every major war from Vietnam to both Gulf Wars. US leaders have killed more people than any dictator they have taken out of power. Don't be ignorant and defend US leaders without understanding what they have done and are planning on doing.

        January 4, 2012 at 10:06 am |
      • maryam

        JN-My grandparents were helpers to the Vietnamese who came to America fleeing from Communist takeover...many Christian and other churches gave them homes,. food and clothing and jobs.NORTH VIETNAM tried to force the South Vietnamese to be Communist. They were the most ruthless awful Communist people! They killed Vietnamese Doctors just because they saw anyone with status as being a "part of the government".They pleaded for American help.Americans once again gave their lives for others. I get so tired of hearing people blame the US government for everything. Maybe we shouldve let them slaughter all the South(women, children, it didnt matter)...maybe we shouldnt have got involved. Put yourself in their place. People who cant understand helping others have nevr been in that situation. Mayb US hasnt done things perfectly, you never know how things will turn out when you start it. Things that ve gone good, could have been different, just as things that were bad, mayb couldve been better had they been done differently. I hate war, but I also hate watching people being massacred just because they are not of the same faith or because they resist being communist. There is a fine line always, and its always difficult to know when to cross it and when to help. Saddam was killing his own, ask your Iraqi American people how it felt to see their families bing slaughtered by him. People try to solv problems and just like in a marriage, sometimes things dont go the way you hoped for.

        January 5, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
      • stay stupid zionists like you stupid

        all this madness so the dirty evil zionist can be the only nuts in the M.E. to have nuclear weapons.

        I say, let's bomb israel first if they don't come clean with admitting they have the bomb they stole from the U.S. with help from traitors with dual israeli and U.S. citizenships.

        January 15, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • maryam

      VERY WELL SAID...lets all give voice to the people! Most of them DO LIKE Americans very much!

      January 5, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Reply
  10. Doogie Browser

    *** NightTrain

    What lies? Iraq was a strong hold for Al Quaeda

    Saddam and Al Queda where enemies.
    You have been listening to fox lies, idiot.
    What the heck is wrong with people ?
    This is just sad.

    January 3, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Reply
    • maryam

      Most of Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan and Pakistan NW Provinces. Pakistan fighting them has caused problems for Pakistan but they need to continue to weed them out so the people can also have peace, because as they are allowed to hide there, there will always be someone looking there for them. Al Qaeda came to Iraq because they thought US was going to occupy or it was a war on Muslims, and BOTH of these were lies. People need to keep religion out of government. Al Qaeda and Talibans like sharia law, which is oppressive to many. Lets see if they can change the rules of wat is perceived about sharia, because it appears the people of those countries may get sharia, against their will. Those that want it, are obvious controlling people and will try to control the masses. And they complain about Mubarak and others? If they continue this way and have their sharia, Mubarak will look like a kitten in comparison. People, democracy(your voice) RULES!

      January 5, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Reply
  11. Davehuckleberry

    The US moved its carrier out from the Persian Gulf and into the Gulf of Oman for it to better protected if Iran decides to attack it. You could also look at it as baiting Iran. Iran must know that they would never win any war with the USA. That would also give Israel a perfect opportunity to take out Iranian nuclear sites. In any event, Israel is planning to take out Iran's nuclear plants shortly and most definitely within 1 year. Very likely sooner than later.

    January 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      I don't think Israel will wait through 2012. Their line in the sand is much shorter than the US. I do think that if and when more sanctions go through it will push Iran into a position. Either they change course on their nuclear program or they do something stupid like attack a ship in the strait of hormuz. This has some down to one choice or the other, or they do nothing and except the sanctions, but at what cost. Really it comes down to how crazy is the government of Iran. If they continue to pursue nuclear technologies, Israel or the US will strike. If they act out to the sanctions by affecting shipping traffic in the strait the US at minimum will strike to some degree. Either way you are looking at a military end, not a peaceful one.

      January 3, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Reply
      • Jo

        You are exactly right Daniel. As a former Special Forces operator I know the capabilities of this carrier group. This group is not just a Carrier. It consists of 2 guided missile cruisers, 2 Nuclear Subs, 2 Anti Aircraft Cruisers, 2 Destroyers. This Battlegoup alone has the firepower to Bomb Iran back to a sandbox. SO the Commanders are sitting in their chairs aboard these ship Giggling their As#@!$ off everytime Iran comes out with a new threat. I would venture to guess that We have an attack plan drawn up if they make a move. Iran (4% smaller than our Alaska) Would love to make Martyr's of themselves. Heck I want 72 virgins too. One wrong move by them and it would be over in Minutes. Then they would find out where they would be going in their afterlife. and It aint gonna be pretty

        January 4, 2012 at 9:35 am |
      • maryam

        JO, I think we should differentiate between the people and the ones who are the problem, mainly the Supreme leader and his religious zealots who are not really religious but use religion to control the people. Basige are under the command of the Elite Guard which controls EVERYTHING with the Supreme Leader. The military itself is not a part of them and not in agreement , nor are many of their police.Elite Guard(Quds force and their puppets-th basige who dress as citizens but are paid civilain religious SPIES on the people)..Poor Iranians cannot move. Support iranians they ned to know we care. They are a lot lik Americans, good fun loving people. They are not Arab they are Persian and most of them are only Muslim on paper, because they hate the brand of Islam their leaders try to force on them. SUPPORT IRANIANS, they NEED US. LONG LIVE PERSIA!

        January 5, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
  12. When The World Is Running Down

    I doubt that many people understand how the world really works.
    Look at a corporation.
    On the top is the board, stock holders, those who make policy.
    Next is the CEO, who is supposed to impliment the ship.
    Then of course is the people who actually do the work to make it successfull.
    Find a cheaper labor source, you make more money.
    Three biggest populations on earth, America, China, India.
    Americans make too much money.
    Destroy the middle class in America.

    The world works in much of the same way.
    Those people who you think have no power, just figure heads, like the Queen
    of England, the pope in Rome, ect
    They DO have all the power.
    Why ?
    They "OWN" everything !
    Why do you think, that Australia, Canada and New Zealand are called "Crown" lands ?
    They are owned by the crown.
    America, by treaty is just another "crown" land.
    We are not an independant nation, we are a "corporation".
    Owned by the Brittish.

    Just like you Americans who think you can vote for a candidate and change things.
    The truth is that Democrat or Republican, they answer to the same master.
    Doesnt matter if you fight for health care, or fight against gay rights.
    The people in charge, dont care about what YOU get, the elite do whatever they want,
    but its about global control.
    You people just dont freaking get it !

    Freedom is an illusion.
    That illusion has been handed to you by your masters.
    They no longer need plantations.
    You are a financial slave from the day you are born.

    Find the truth
    find the light.

    January 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Reply
    • allan

      Bravo well said. I am just wondering if you are from US or not you do not hear this kind of comments from American. they do not live in real life! they even do not know who is their master!

      January 3, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Reply
    • rick

      from your post it seems like the 60s are back! unfortunately most of us have moved off the commune and got degrees and jobs and families, still, the weed must be good wherever it is you are living. sex, drugs and rock and roll foever!

      January 4, 2012 at 8:19 am | Reply
      • JedioftheSun

        You're blind to think that he's a hippie just because he has a point of view your closed mind can't possibly comprehend. You're exactly the kind of sheep politicians bank on. Keep the ignorance going. You only prove others right.

        January 6, 2012 at 5:58 am |
  13. @Tariq

    @Tariq. "The Muslim Bomb?" Allah would be so proud.

    January 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Reply
  14. Tariq

    In the last 30 years the USA has attacked numerous countries that has led to the loss of life of uncountable innocents worldwide. In the same time span Iran has attacked no country. It is the USA that is warlike and barbaric and a threat to worldwide peace.

    If attacked Iran will defend itself against the agressors. The Middle East oil fields will be destroyed and the worldwide economy will be destroyed. This action will be the way to stop the USA war machine. The USA is powerless to stop Iran in its rightful nuclear ambitions. Once The Muslim Bomb is available to protect Iran, its security will be assured as any who would seek to harm Iran, would in turn be burned. Iran desires peace and to be left alone. Unfortunately it is the USA which desires our oil and would turn the proud Iranian nation into a puppet state. NEVER!!

    January 3, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Reply
    • Sayan Majumdar

      Stop living in fool’s paradise. Even if Iran avails (most unlikely) what you call a “Muslim bomb” it will be in no position to exercise the “nuclear option” in fear of being wiped out from the face of earth in retaliation.

      Possessing limited nuclear arsenal is worse than possessing none. Something also Pakistan and North Korea (do I see a connection here?) will realise in the long run.


      January 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Reply
      • Tariq

        Sayan...Open your eyes and quit being Americas Uncle Tom

        January 3, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • Larry

      Read the Prophecies of Ezekiel Chapter 38 about Gog and Magog (Iran and Turkey). It's not a matter of whether Iran invades - it's just a matter of WHEN.

      January 3, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Reply
      • Ryan

        Sure! I believe I can find the book you are referring to under the "Fiction" section at the bookstore.

        January 5, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
      • Jo

        Ryan look up on your computer ,,,"The Koran, The ultimate truth and see what you think of the book supposedly writtin by God PFFFFT!

        January 5, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Doogie Browser

      Iran, so innocent.
      Hezzbolah, with rockets supplied by Iran,
      sits on the southern border of Lebanon, with thousands of rockets aimed at Israel,
      just itching to pull the trigger and kill as many jews as they can.

      Hamas, almost daily launches rockets at civilians in Israel
      trying to KILL civilians.
      All supplied by Iran.

      You dont get a free pass, because you didnt do your dirty
      work yourself.

      January 3, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      What about the Baha’i persecution in Iran? How about the numerous stonings and hangings of gays, suspected spies, adulterers and lord knows who else.
      There was the war with Iraq with an estimated 120,000 Iranians killed, most of whom were untrained.
      Let's not forget those who died for speaking out against the current government.
      To simply claim that Iran is innocent is ridiculous.
      The UN, US, and Israel will take all necessary steps to make sure Iran does not become a Nuclear power period.
      Stutnix and Duqu were the start. The chain of work accidents maybe conspiracy maybe not.
      I know Iran didn't start the Iran Iraq war, but the current government has been repressive to say the least, and criminal would be an understatement.

      January 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • Ozryal

      Beware the dragon in its death throws least you be its final meal Tariq

      January 3, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Reply
    • mex

      Tariq, it is well known that iran wants nukes, and will assemble as many as they can. i really dont have a problem with that. it is what iran does with them, whether to sell to a proxy, or whatever. if iran desires to use their nukes they can only expect to be flattened hastily once they pull the trigger. what good would that do for the average iranian? nothing. sure, iran may "burn" someplace, but it will be the last place they do. do you not think that many smart military minds have been practicing these scenarios for a very long time and will have a good idea as how to respond should iran use a nuke, or sell it to a proxy who in turn uses it. even the aftermath of a nuke can be traced. iranian leaders are acting like those monkeys at the beginning of the film, 2001 A Space Odessy, just because you acquire a big stick doesn't mean you should start swinging it around indiscriminately. the "machismo" thing will only get you so far, right into the line of fire.

      January 3, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Reply
      • Daniel

        Actually it does scare me. There is no guidance about how those missiles would be deployed. For all we know if could be some dude in a bunker on his own with a big red button. He puts his coffee down int he wrong place and oopppsss.
        Iran had signed on the NPE and yet behind everyone's back went ahead, then lied again about what they had. Oh lets not forget they were given the options to have western countries build them a low power reactor. No they wanted to control the whole process.

        January 3, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Doogie Browser

      OK Tariq,
      You get what you play for.
      You fund Hamas and Hezbollah,
      you control Lebanon with assasination,
      You use Syria as a front for war against Israel,
      You threaten to close down an international water way
      that ships oil to the world,
      including your partner China, and you respond to the world
      just like North Korea by holding war games,
      and a belligerant rude attitude towards the rest of the civilized world,
      and you want....what ?
      Respect ?

      Join the rest of the civilized world, or continue on this course,
      and get what you deserve.

      Time is running out.

      January 3, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Reply
    • rick

      appears you have been hitting the hookah way too hard. when you come back to earth you may want to consider moving your relatives out of tehran

      January 4, 2012 at 8:23 am | Reply
    • strikelightning

      if america chooses to, we could wipe iran off the face of the earth in less than 72 hours with no loss of american lives. you're very lucky that it isn't up to me. i would give iran that nuclear weapon they want so bad. i'd drop it right on the presidential palace. keep on doing what you're doing and prepare to be bombed back into the stone age. we're not putting any troops on the ground when the time comes to erase iran.

      January 4, 2012 at 9:26 am | Reply
    • Sohail Ahmed

      Tariq, dude, just chill with your Muslim Bomb, I would suggest that next time just do bit of research before commenting on blogs (I say this with no disrespect). Loyalty to the country is a virtue but letting make others make fun as a result of your expression is not wise. So bruv just take a chill pill – relax and essentially pray that the Leaders of all countries don’t make a mess of the civilisations in Israel USA or Iran, because when it all kicks off all blood shed will be red and of innocents. Let Allah be the judge of true and false…Love for all Hatred for none.

      January 4, 2012 at 11:14 am | Reply
  15. Youreminence

    Folks it's 22012, an election year. The incumbents record has a dearth of accomplishments. His Republican opponents call into question the President's willingness to defend American interests abroad and allege the Administration will underfund the Pentagon. The temtation to win the election by bashing Iran must be tempting to President Obama. THe Presidnet will not fall into the Iranian trap that cost President Carter's reelection. If Iran threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz or otherwise attack American naval assets, Obama may well choose to bomb Iran into his second term.

    January 3, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Reply
    • Doogie Browser

      **** Obama may well choose to bomb Iran into his second term......

      And Bush ignored warnings of an attack on 911, so what is your point ?

      January 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Reply
  16. Brian

    Obama admits that there is a history behind our relations with Iran. Our CIA overthrew Iran's democratically elected government in 1953 and the Iranians have distrusted us every since.

    January 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Reply
  17. CAL USA

    Consider a few facts from history before we embrace ridiculous solutions. The Soviets had thousands of nuclear warheads able to destroy every major city in the West. They were never used because of the certainty of an equally devastating retaliation. The Mullahs who control Iran may promise dozens of virgins and a great afterlife to whoever is stupid enough to believe them, but all of them die of old age. None of them are stupid enough to launch a nuke that will bring back a few hundred from Israel or the US. On the other hand, they obviously recognize that we invaded Iraq, who didn't have nuclear weapons, but not North Korea, who does. That's the real motivation, and we have George W. Bush to thank for it.

    January 3, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply
    • swartswoodmonsta

      great point about who the US invades and doesn't.

      January 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Reply
    • mex

      DPRK also has the support of China, that relationship would be a hindrance as well

      January 3, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Reply
  18. Daniel

    Ok I agree with the author in some aspects of his article however there is a large discrepancy I think he forgot.
    1. Iran has been on the Nuclear path for some years now as he pointed out. When the UN and Western powers first attempted to engage Iran to change course they offered them Nuclear technology on a silver platter.
    In return for stopping production internally they would offer to help build newer reactors which use lower level fuel rods, are safer, and better. Western countries would take their raw materials and produce the fuel rods for them thus cutting the costs dramatically for the Iranians. Yet they stonewalled IAEA talks and eventually pulled back from the table.
    2. Much of their programs have been secretive, and only recently have new sites been documented. If Iran really wanted to work with the world to have nuclear technology why didn't they go straight to them in the beginning and tell them what they wanted to do, and work with them to get there. Being transparent would have gotten them farther along then where they are now. Instead things were done behind closed doors and things continue in that manner.
    3. The rhetoric coming from Tehran has been consistently defiant, and continues to worry the west, and others.
    4. On the surface it seems that the Iranians want to continue their own development unfettered and uncontrolled. WHY?
    5. He speaks of a way out to the Iranians but to where? The Iranians want Nuclear technology, i.e. functioning technology and the rest of the world seems against it for obvious reasons. So we impose sanctions, which is nothing new, yet now Iran is pushing back saying they will close the straits. So what is the way out for them? The only way is to stop Nuclear activities. Given what we have seen it does not seem like a course Iran is willing to take at the moment.
    6. Closing the strat of hormuz is a pipe dream. They might be able to disrupt activities for a short period of time, however not only will they impede their own exports, but it would lead to an absolute military action from the US. The fifth fleet is not 400 miles from the straight and taking on the US navy would be suicide.
    7. Let us also not forget that Iran has ties with terrorist organizations. While it doesn't seem like they would have over a fully functional warhead to them, it is of high probability that enriched materials could be given to various organizations for use as a dirty bomb. It doesn't say I love you like a mushroom cloud but it is a strong weapon of terror. It has long term affects and if released in a highly populated area, pick a large city of your choice, would cost billions in treatment for exposure and cleanup of the environment.
    This type of weapon could be done now with what they have but getting a higher concentration somewhere like 50% would cause more immediate casualties. As a personal thought this scares me more than them actually getting a 90% concentration and applying it to a fully functional weapon. Both are results the world can not live with.

    So now my question:
    What is the tipping point for Israel, the US, and UN. I don't think seeing a Nuclear Missile paraded down the main streets of Tehran is the tipping point and it would need to come well before that. Where is that line, and when will Iran cross it.

    January 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Reply
    • Doogie Browser

      I hate war.
      I hate when people die because nations cant get along.
      But in this case, its time to take care of business.
      To the Iranian people, we wish you the best,
      but your leaders are on a path of suicide.
      In your quest to overthrow the the west,you put in place a military
      religious dictatorship that now controls not only your freedoms,
      but your minds.
      You, the people of Iran have only two choices.
      Remove your leaders, and join the free world.
      Or continue on this path, and find destruction.

      Your religious dictators with a nuclear weapon is not acceptable.
      Man up.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Reply
  19. Pete/Ark

    Chjna and Japan buy most of the oil passing through the straights...they also ship millions dollars of thier products in the same way. Perhaps we can get them to support,and underwrite, our breaking of any attempted blockade. Just a passing thought.

    January 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Reply
  20. shut_up

    The iran-iraq war lasted from 1980-1988 8 years. we kicked iraqs rear in two weeks?? what is iran thinking??

    if they couldnt whip iraq, they actually think that one missle launch will scare anyone? they dont have diesel or fuel to start a war.

    they have oil, but the USA does not get very much oil that goes through the strait of hormuz. most of that oil is headed for asia. shouldnt china take care of its own oil?????????????????

    January 3, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Reply
    • strikelightning

      the iranian leaders are ALL lunatics, deluded into believing they are some kind of superpower. i hope when the time comes we kill them all, turn iran into a sheet of glass. it's a terrible thing to kill civilians, but drastic times call for drastic measures. capture ahmadinejad, bring him to america and put him on display in a zoo.

      January 4, 2012 at 9:40 am | Reply
    • JedioftheSun

      It doesn't matter if we don't get the oil that comes through there. Speculators will make sure prices go up

      January 6, 2012 at 6:10 am | Reply
  21. shut_up

    An old persian expression? I thought persia is now Iran?? If the USA finds a wildcat trapped in a room, to hell with the door, we will blow the damn room up! If iran wants nuclear weapons, we can give them the az65 or the mb49 1000 kilotons. then they can have a "sand" wich!

    January 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Ryan

      "If the USA finds a wildcat trapped in a room, to hell with the door, we will blow the damn room up!"

      Love it.

      January 4, 2012 at 4:30 am | Reply
      • pugsly

        that,s some funny sh!t. i hope they do just that and soon.

        January 31, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  22. Woodyplace

    Surface to air missiles may be good if they get off the ground. The US has a satellite hovering over Iran. The missiles in Afganistan, Saudi Arabia and Israel will ensure that they don't get off the ground. The US is no longer in Iraq becuase it may have to be in Iran. This will be a airpane/missile fought war not a soldier fought war. Iran's Navy and Airforce won't know what hit them. Besides, the religious leaders don't want to lose power. They won't start a war which they know that will get them kicked out of power.

    January 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  23. Chris Honry

    I HOPE OBAMA let's them block the strait of Hormuz and waits until the world is paying triple for gasoline, then asks "Oh, so you want me to do something? What would you have me do? Sink the ships blockading the strait? "

    January 3, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Reply
    • Doogie Browser

      President Obama will do the right thing.
      But the president has no control of oil prices.
      Cant wait for GOP candidates to start blaming our president for this.
      Most of them want to bomb Iran anyway.
      We just have to get the Republican warmongers out of congress.
      Hard to do, as war makes money.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Reply
      • Daniel

        I don't even think it would be an Obama decision really. Yes he has final say on large movements, but my guess is if for example a ship came under duress from the Iranian Navy. The captains of the fifth fleet vessels wouldn't have to wait for Obama and Congress. They could respond in kind to a ship in distress in international waters. Kind of neat huh.. They don't need any authorization to kick some butt, just a distress call from a ship. After that They would need to make some decisions, but my hope is that there will be a plan in place, and it simply would require waking Obama up and having him give the nod.

        January 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  24. Ed Sr of Dallas Tx

    We are doomed by Washington and duped by CNN..................Happy New Year!

    January 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Reply
  25. Jason K

    In another news, another MOSSAD chief seconds that even if Iran had a nuke (which they don't), they would still no real threat to Israel or the US because they have no means of delivery. Their Airforce is crap, their Navy not much better. The only thing they have that's formidible is their standing army.

    Do not invade Iran, we have no money, no resources, and most importantly, NO REASON! Dear Obama Administration, stay home and watch the superbowl or Victoria Secret fashion show instead.

    January 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Reply
    • Daniel

      Well they did have a timely placed work accident regarding their long range missiles. We told them to let in OSHA for inspections but they didn't listen!

      January 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Reply
  26. Deep North

    It's amazing to see people continue to say Iran is not stable enough or mature enough for nuclear power, and yet one of the youngest countries on the planet has pulled one of most despicable deeds ever......TWICE

    January 3, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
    • DougieT

      I've seen some naive posts in my time but yours takes the naive cake.

      January 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Reply
    • Doogie Browser

      Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, killing many Americans and civilians.
      They then declared war on America.
      The death toll of lifes between Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Fascist Italy was
      devastating to the world.
      It was estimated that a hundred thousand lives would be lost in the invasion of Japan.
      To save lives, it was decided to use the bomb to tell Japan, the war is over.
      Japan thinking that we only had one bomb, and could hold out...refused to surrender.
      So we used the second one.
      Both Hiroshima and nagasaki are military targets.
      To all you people screaming about what a horrible thing the Americans
      We not only ended the war in the Pacific, but you can ask anybody from any country
      who had been brutilised by the Japanese,
      tortured, raped, starved, and forced into slave labor camps, how they feel.

      Thais (Thialand)
      and many more.

      Go ahead and blame the Americans for helping stop the destruction
      and enslavement of half the worlds pacific population.
      These people are grateful for our help.

      Try a history book.

      January 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Reply
    • mex

      moral of the story here is, dont fork with the US

      January 3, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Reply
    • Grog Says

      Grog says...
      Japan attack America,
      America kick butt.
      What part dont you understand ?
      Are you sick in head ?

      January 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Reply
    • Deep South

      Those despicable deeds that a young nation has cursed on another saved more lives than the other alternative plans. Funny how Deep North can make such a mature comment on a subject that could have meant he or she never existed on this earth had that deed never been committed. Sounds like an American who has never sacrificed any duty toward the country they bitch about but yet utilizes the freedoms so many other Americans have sacrificed there lives for to express his or hers ideals.

      January 4, 2012 at 12:16 am | Reply
    • Read All History

      I'm sure the Chinese in Nanking might point some fingers at Japan for what they did during that particular war, read about Nanking sometime before you decide that Japan was innocent of wrongdoing.

      January 20, 2012 at 9:47 am | Reply
  27. As Far As Siam

    Iran is going to find itself between the hammer and the anvil.
    They have chosen the wrong path.
    Iran has threatened world commerce.
    Friend or foe, not many civilized nations would stand in the way
    of Iran being "put back in its place".
    Russia and China will talk big, but behind closed doors
    the oil must flow, or nations economies could collapse.
    The next move in this chess game is up to Iran.
    The eyes of the world are on Iran, maybe thats just what Iran wants ?

    January 3, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Reply
  28. Leaf on the Wind

    "Sadjadpour says the main focus should not be on hardware but Iran's ambitions." Right. And we've just pulled all of our troops out of Iraq, making it the low-hanging fruit for Iran's ambitions. If their missles don't reach far enough to strike Israel now, they will if Iran reaches for that Iraqi fruit. What will we do then? What will Israel do? Did we pull out of Iraq in order to tempt Iran into doing something to which we would be forced to respond?

    January 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Reply
    • Capt Nemo

      We pulled out of Iraq because we should never have been there (lies about Iraq being linked to Al Quaeda and 9/11/2001), because the long-term mission was a complete failure (political and sectarian chaos), and because we're broke (how many trillions did we squander in the sand?).

      January 3, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Reply
      • NightTrain

        What lies? Iraq was a strong hold for Al Quaeda there's no disputing that as far as the WMDs go Suddam himself pretended to have them so not to appear weak to Iran he has even used chemical weapons before in the Iraq/Iran war so that wasn't so much a lie as it was bad intelligience but none the less the world is a safer place without Saddam, Iraq is now a democracy and an allie.. You really should atleast try to be factual when opening your mouth hole... just sayin..

        January 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
      • PraiseTheLard

        NightTrain should read a newspaper once in a while...

        January 3, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
      • Vader


        Not to burst your bubble, but Iraq was not a stronghold for al Queda until AFTER the US invasion. Saddam had no ties or affiliation. So before you throw rocks at others about 'getting your facts straight', I'd suggest to do the same.

        As to your second statement that the world is a safer place without Saddam, I'd argue that to be a questionable assertion. While no friend of the US, he was also a bigger counterbalance to Iran, and WMD or not, had been effectively neutered with Desert Storm. Without him, the Iranians are now the proverbial 'fox in the henhouse', and have free rein in the region.

        January 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
      • Juliana

        Normally, if it's a spambot(which it does sound a lot like just the url and one ranodm word to connect it to the actual content of the site), the website link will be to a site selling viagra.

        June 30, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • robrecon

      Let us not forget. It was Hezballah that attacked the Marine Barracks in Beruit. If Iran wants to back a terriorst group such a Hezballh then let them trow the first punch. We should finish the fight and pay the Iranians back for the Marines killed in the terriorist attacks 30 years ago. It is time for the Iranian government to go! Let the population of Iran move forward in a peacful, democratic world.

      January 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Reply
    • As Far As Siam

      We still have (troops) bases in Kuwait, Afghanistan, and Ajerbaijan,
      and the fifth fleet in Bahrain.
      The Saudi's have also given permission for Israeli jets to use air fields
      in Saudi Arabia.
      Iran is also worried about what is happening in Syria.
      I dont know what this all means, but its clear this did not happen quickly.
      This has been planned for some time.

      The only piece of mind i can give you people is this,
      Forget borders, religions , races and tonques.
      We only have one planet.
      War is not acceptable, but.....
      If every once in awhile, we have to step in and correct a problem
      for the rest of the planet, so be it.

      January 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  29. InTruth23

    I agree that a conflict with Iran would be ill advised. Not that the US could not wipe the floor with them. But at some time Iran will go to far and we will have no choice. We need to look at pushing out production of Lybian and Saudi crude and then sap Iran with sanctions. The output of the Saudi and Lybian crude would buffer the Iranian crude loss and HOPEFULLY dampen the spike in crude oil.

    January 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Reply
    • henry

      I simply canot beleive what a war hungry countrie the us has become it just plain makes me sick. how about you go home and mind your own business? It might be a good idea to stop trying to steal other other contries oil

      January 3, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Reply
      • American Fury

        Oh Henry you're such a coward. Don't be afraid of our mighty military power. Actually, you should be scared, very scared. But we are not concerned with homos like you. It's the dirt bag muslim countries that have our attention now. You should be safe and sound and able to spoon with your hubby without any worries.

        January 3, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
      • As Far As Siam

        Welcome to planet Earth Henry.
        We only have one.
        Lets take care of it.
        By any means.

        January 3, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
      • As Far As Siam

        **** American Fury

        Oh Henry you're such a coward. Don't be afraid of our mighty military power. Actually, you should be scared, very scared. But we are not concerned with homos like you.

        You just lost ALL credibility with that statement.
        Some of our finest fighting men and woman are gay.
        Please stop sticking up for our side.
        You sound like a six year old fool.
        Grow up, or shut up !

        January 3, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
      • Deep South

        America is not war hungry, its about protecting the interest of its own. Sometimes in life to get what you require you must fight for it. Other countries have adopted this behavior for lessor reasons in much worse ways!

        January 4, 2012 at 12:43 am |
      • shalom

        hello ,
        finally i found a fair-minded guy .we like people of all the world and hate wars like you but i think the real space between us is for our ignorance of each others because we just receive our data from our press that majorly guide by governments with political motivations
        we have oil yes but versus we always were under attacks and we learn to resist
        for years we live in boycott and president obamas recent speeches will make the circumstances worse and this decision is just a reaction to sanctions and associated problems from a country that always has been a victim of discrimination although i disagree with it and concern about its consequences for all of us because it influence your lives and our lives ,too
        i hope someday we could accept each others despite differences and live together in peace

        January 5, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • Jason K

      Everyone said that about Iraq too. And in a "fair" engagement, you would be right. But we have no money, and they fight dirty. They do not respect the same rules of engagement we do. They send a suicide bomber for the equivilent cost of $500.00 and we retaliate with a drone strike that costs several million dollars (that's x,000,000.00)!!! IT'S MADNESS!

      January 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Reply
    • Steve

      We will beat Iran, just like we beat Vietnam. Ha-ha.

      January 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Reply
      • Jo

        Iran is a country that is 4% smaller than Alaska 1 bomb and its a glowing sandbox.,, Here is something for you to read. "The Koran the Ultimate truth, google it and see the truth

        January 21, 2012 at 9:19 am |
  30. howard

    HAHAHA they didnt show the picture of the ship sinking after they fired the cheep ass rocket,now did they???

    January 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Reply
    • nru

      Wow – they have the capability to down a drone and not have it destroyed, and you think a missile is not doable? Please take a dose of reality

      January 3, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Reply
      • Sodoff Wanker

        NRU, how naive are you? Consider this: if Iran truly had the capability to not only take down drones but usurp their control...this would represent an awesome capability. They didn't keep this a secret, did they? You see, when you have a capability that could possibly defeat an adversary, you don't advertise it or make it known. If you do, your enemy (in this case, the US, which has DEEPER pockets and BETTER access to research and technology) will do everything within their power to defeat this capability. Besides, there's a lot of technology, especially in the communication and control of drones, that Iran DOES not possess. If they truly had the capability, they would have used it, taken the drone, and denied everything (that they were even in possession of the drone). But Iran didn't do this, Iran never does this, it's all bluster about how great their military is or even superior to the west, when not a generation ago they were still fighting trench warfare with Iraq. Use your deductive powers, don't believe Iranian hype, and certainly don't feed those trolls in Iran who make up for deficiencies with blustery statements. The fact that they didn't keep any of this a secret...what else is there to conclude?

        January 3, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • Jason K

        Sodoff, the only reason the US has deeper pockets is because they have holes in them. If we go to war with Iraq, we will make the economic problems of Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, and Iceland, look the good ol' 1950s.

        Regardless of whether or not we 'can' is not a good indication of whether or not we 'should'. WE ARE BROKE!

        January 3, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  31. buctrain

    I suspect, and Iran already knows that the US has enough submarine power already in the gulf to wipe out their whole fleet. The US will let them rant and rave while negotiations are on going behind the scenes. There will not be a blockade, Iran knows the consequences.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • Jo

      Hell just one of our Sub's could wipe out the entire country and their so called Navy.

      January 21, 2012 at 9:23 am | Reply
  32. Phil in KC

    It is always a good idea, in diplomatic circles, to allow your opponent a graceful exit. But they have to be willing to take it. If I may be permitted a mixed metaphor, Iran keeps painting themselves into a corner.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Reply
  33. PoBoy

    Don't lose sight of the fact that we still have forces fighting in Afghanistan, who are very vulnerable to Iranian surface-to-surface missiles and even air attack. Additionally, Iran may have appeared to want the US out of Iraq, but they knew that our forces there provided them another potential target that the US would be reluctant to subject to Iranian missiles. Attacking Iran is a lose for all concerned, and by that I mean the entire world, but the US would pay a very high price, which I believe we're unwilling and unable to pay. The Iranian government could care less about it's people!

    January 3, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
    • Alan Seago

      PoBoy: As you pointed out, attacking Iran is a losing proposition for all parties. You're right. But allowing those people to have nuclear weapons is also a losing proposition for the West, for Israel, for moderate Arab states, and maybe for Iran itself. Sometimes there isn't any good option, just a choice of the lesser of two bad options.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Reply
    • Grog Says

      And you think the war powers in America could care about the troops ?
      This is not about people.
      Its about power.
      Its about recourses, and controlling them.
      The guys with the biggest weapons wins.
      End game.

      January 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Reply
  34. SpaceTime

    Lets get things straight here. Iran would like to have the nuclear option for increased respect and a credible defense against regional and super powers. The problem for Iran is a world-wide trust deficit. The world does not believe that it is mature enough to handle nuclear technology for defense purposes. Hence the talk of increased sanctions from the UN, EU and US. The latest rhetoric on blocking the Strait of Hormuz is a telling reminder.

    This blockade would drastically effect the Iranian people for the worse and its use is, for lack of a better phrase, an all-in move. When a regime has stooped to the level of risking the nation's economic stability, its future economic progress and all neighborly relations, there had better be a very good reason. The only positive outcome Iran can hope for is that no one calls its bluff and for a while enjoy a few extra dollars-per-barrel.

    How would the world in its right mind permit a regime that takes such risks, the option to use nuclear technology for defense or any other purpose.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
  35. Tor

    This is all a provocation to see our reaction so as to guage our resolve. They are alos looking to create discord in the West by threatening thoil hoping some countries will now balk at or try to prevent sanctions. They are also hoping that Republicans will say something really stupid to undermine Obama.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Reply
    • Alan Seago

      Tor: You wrote that the Iranians are hoping the Republicans will say something stupid to undermine Obama? Such as? That maybe Newt Gingrich will denounce President Obama's lukewarm and ineffectual sanctions, and Gingrich will call for no sanctions at all? Or that maybe President Obama will decide to attack Iran, but the Republican doves in the House will refuse to allow it?

      Tor, this isn't something over which to start political party bickering. It's more important than that.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Reply
  36. wrkeating

    This is the most proeposterous article ever! Just stupid. Insipid. Vapid. Dumb. Persia needs conflict to survive and expand its empire.

    The commentoator preuspposes that the Persians want a way out....of course the don't! The have existed for 32 years thru bloodthirst racsist attacks and de-humanizing and devauling American life. In times fo crisis they always will try to provoke a confrontation with the U.S. and if they are unsuccessful at first they will become more and more aggressive endangering more and more American lives worldwide.

    The entire premise of the commentators remarks is the the Persians want a way out. They want a deeper way IN....into conflict not out of one. The bloodthirsty racist imperialists in TehRAN are the living embodiment of evil in the modern world and understand only one thing....violence and force.

    This is necessary to protect American lives and safety whether American s are in Lebanon or Kobar Towers or South America the Persian Empire has been is is determined to be expansionist. they cannot expand with the U.S. in the way. Unless all Americans are willing to submit and surrender to the Persians we must defend ourselves. Should have done so in 1979 with a blizzard of violence agaisnt the "leadership" and their war making machine. Our weakness since then has shown only that we can and will be bullied and that when we finally are forced to act(post-invasion on 911) we are so stupid that we can be counted on to eliminate the only fire wall against Persian aggression: Iraq.

    No talking.
    No Nation Building
    No hand wringing

    Just force directed at the leadership of the Persio-Nazis

    And another th
    ing....this has nothing to do with religion and everythingto do with power and money and drug lording. Heroin is too difficult to acquire as far as the narco-terrorists suppliers in Afghan and Persia are concerned and they need to drive up the supply of world narcotics.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Reply
  37. Ethan

    What is this stupidity about Israel and America walking into Iran's trap. They just want the ability to defend themselves with a bomb. Who are we to tell them what to do, it's not our place.

    January 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      Nuclear weapons are the ultimate WMD. It is the place of the community of nations, which is led by the U.S., Britain, and France, to restrict the efforts of ANY nation to obtain WMDs of any kind if that nation has an avowed policy and practice of supporting international terrorism.

      Or would you rather see nukes smuggled by terrorists to city near you?

      January 3, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Reply
    • Brian

      Um... who are to deny them? The world has the right to deny them via the NPT treaty they signed and reaffirmed in 2003. They denied themselves, promised the world, and now they said "oops, we lied."

      January 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Reply
    • MyTake

      Get real ... thugs like the current regime need to be stripped of offensive capabilities ... period.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Reply
    • rick

      the world and the people reading this article are way too smart for your tired rhetoric"they want a bomb to defend themselves", what a load of crap. they are the ones threatening their neighbors and supporting terrorism throughout the middle east. your pro muslim/palestinian/arab and now iranian propaganda is what it is, obfuscation and outright lies.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Reply
    • Whisper To A Scream

      **** They just want the ability to defend themselves with a bomb.

      If they were not trying to make a bomb, they wouldnt have to defend themselves.
      Nobody would be bothering them.
      Its that easy.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Reply
      • AA

        Just like Libya was left alone? Just like Syria is being left alone now? The list goes on and on... Too naive

        January 4, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Jo

      Eathan you are clearly a dumba99. They want that bomb to destroy Israel the minute they get it thy will use it good thing Israel could shoot it down before it reaches their borders

      January 21, 2012 at 9:37 am | Reply
  38. JOE

    Yes! It may seem practical and wise to leave Iran alone but how dare you leave Iran alone when it threatens to wipe another country off the face of the map?

    January 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
  39. Hahahahahahahaha

    That's not a missle. It's a bottle rocket. Good luck hitting anything. Hahahahahahahahaha

    January 3, 2012 at 11:21 am | Reply
    • Hercules

      I bet you say that to all the guys!

      January 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
    • BL

      That's what she said

      January 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Reply
  40. Indrid Cold

    Before the military planners start even THINKING about attacking Iran, they had better consider a few salient facts.
    1. Nuclear weapons, and the deterrence they provide have historically been shown to actually prevent war. When the Indians and the Pakistanis (who despise each other almost as much as the Arabs and Jews) got their hand on nuclear weapons, the risk of war actually DECREASED. MAD has a way of doing that.

    2. This is the one that better give the US generals pause. The Iranians have a large number of conventional surface to surface IRBM's targeted against every oil production installation in the mid-east. These are not the "fire and hope you hit something" SCUD missiles Saddam used in Gulf War 1. These weapons are solid fueled with advanced warhead guidance controls that can hit their target MOST of the time. At the first sign of attack they WILL launch at least one salvo of these missiles. Overnight 20% of world oil production goes poof. We get $10/gal gas and a brand new global DEPRESSION. At that point, hitting Iran will prove meaningless.

    3. Once the shock over the loss of middle east oil sets in, the governments of the world will realize their own economies are now in serious trouble. The peasants in China who depend on oil fueled factory jobs in the cities will start to become restless. The North Koreans will realize that Beijing can no longer send them fuel oil. They will have no alternative but to attack the South and this time China will be too busy quelling it's own population to stop them. All of this starts looking like the catalyst for any number of wars that could in turn go global.

    This is how World Wars get started folks. Things just spin out of control so fast, that no one knows how to turn it off.

    January 3, 2012 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • Andi

      Spoken like a true Iranian thug...

      January 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Reply
      • rick

        actually written like an employee of the Iranian ministry of propaganda who are now hoping that they didn't overreach with their empty threats

        January 3, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • longtooth

      Sadly, I agree. World wars, (may they never happen again), are not always considered and planned. Mankind seems to drift into them like a boat that's slipped its moorings. The history of WW1 is a prime example.

      January 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
    • Dr. Curt Schmidt

      No scenario should overlook the fact that, if Iran strikes the oil facilities of multiple nations, multiple nations will make sure Iran never again has an offensive capability to strike anything. The current bellicose rhetoric, threatening a major portion of the world's supply of oil, should make it excruciatingly clear that Iran's possession of a nuclear weapon would be catastrophic for world security.

      January 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Reply
      • henry

        well dr. we would not have to worry about Iran starting anything if we just leave them alone

        January 3, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • zerstreutful

      Interesting speculation. Similar but more severe scenarios can be entertained, e.g., complete oil shut down from the Persian Gulf, with per gallon oil at $100, no food stuff transported from farmlands to supermarkets, general starvation/famine, gun-drawn food-raiders attacking, invading homes, complete anarchy and violence, collapse of financial, social, judicial and security infra-structures, etc. It is therefore be absurd to ask Who the winner is? Certainly Not the West, much less the NATO.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Reply
      • Mark Of The Beast

        New World order has much to be gained by this.
        One more small step in a much larger picture.
        Its very easy to do.
        Divide and conquer.
        Then use military, financial and religious propaganda,
        to finish off the host.

        I dont wear a tin foil hat because i want to understand what it is that they are up to.
        Is a "one world" government a good thing, or a bad thing ?

        One government.
        One currency.
        One set of laws.
        One religion.
        One military/police force.

        It would be great if it was to help mankind evolve and find peace and prosperity.
        But it also has the danger of being a one world dictatorship.

        That pyramid on your dollar bill is never questioned,
        but how many people actually know why it is there and what it means ?
        Its an organization of how this world is controlled.
        The all seeing eye on the top, and the other "compartments" below.
        Each "compartments has a job or function, but does not know
        how the other compartments work.

        The Roman empire did not really die, they just found out that
        they no longer needed armies to control.
        They "own" everything by buying it, or controlling it.

        That "all seeing eye" at the top of the pyramid...
        why do you think they call the pope....THE HOLY SEE ?

        I wont go much further, but you can find almost every US president
        has ties to English or German Kings and queens.

        Start with this, George Bush/John Kerry...
        both members of skull & bones.
        What is skull & bones ?
        An organization created to hand pick and train people for
        Government, religious and military service by the rich elite,
        to control important positions around the world.
        It works very well.

        January 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • MyTake

      ... or we could do nothing and allow the Iranians to finish developing nukes and ... if the delivery system is anywhere as accurate as you say ... Israel will glow in the dark ... with whatever US asset the Iranian wants to target next. The problem is "Almadeemajerk" has already stated that Israel should not exist and helps the local terrorist organizations there.
      Then your scenarios #2 and #3 are a reality anyway.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Reply
      • Sandman

        I think that Israel would step up and do something covert. There might be an accident like at the rocket fueling shed, only larger. So much of that country wants it's leaders to change that they are doing these things to stay in power. Iran might wind up with a two front way, internal and external. The security services will be looking for Mosad or Seals under every tree. I would love to see Iran as a tourist, not from 10000 or so feet at 400 knots with JDAMs under the wings.

        January 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Whisper To A Scream

      Wars are very profitable.
      Oil prices go up, stocks plummet, and people die.
      Those that rule this planet are ruthless,
      but they are not stupid.
      Its like playing "Risk" with real armies,
      and "Monopoly" with real money.

      You are nothing more than a game piece on the board.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Reply
    • Chris

      As for number 2, it's no coincidence at all that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have recently purchased missile defense systems from the USA. They're well aware of this threat and steps are being taken to mitigate it.

      January 3, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Reply
      • Silver

        The whole thing is posted on the FOX News site and you can send a reply. It's the sencod invitation all right, there was the magic word, "monotheism", right near the end. So, what happens after he gets the finger for the sencod invite?

        June 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • Jo

      Indrid you are poorly misinformed. We have the capability to shoot down most if not all of their ground to ground missiles. As a former Special Operator I know this. While you in turn look to your computer for your mis-information. leave the war talk to the experts and blog on something you know about. How about Holly Hobby Dolls;

      January 21, 2012 at 9:48 am | Reply
  41. Sayan Majumdar

    The Persian (Iranian) leadership is expected to be more mature than the Arab ones and perhaps do not seek an open confrontation with the Western powers.

    Iran is perhaps displaying its limited (yet very effective in asymmetric warfare) military capabilities to consolidate diplomatic bargains to its favour.


    January 3, 2012 at 6:49 am | Reply
    • str8vision

      I agree Iran is only seeking a bargaining platform in an attempt to evade/mitigate the upcoming economic sanctions. Problem is the hostile boisterous diplomatic techniques Iran uses with such great success in negotiating with its 3rd world neighbors will only incite and strengthen American resolve in addressing perceived threats. America has a very short fuse these days especially when it comes to radical Islamic BS. Iran's military capabilities are grossly inadequate for anything more than provoking a response from America's military war machine and any such response would be.....brutal. Iran is playing with matches while floating in a pool of boiling gasoline......

      January 3, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Reply

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