December 28th, 2011
04:51 PM ET

U.S. nearing tipping point with Iran?

With Iran threatening to cut off access to an important artery for the global oil trade, the U.S. Navy says such a move "will not be tolerated," and experts warn military action could be inevitable if Iran carries out its threat. Foreign Affairs Correspondent Jill Dougherty takes a look at the situation.

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  1. 카지노 보너스

    Best view i have ever seen !

    November 23, 2020 at 8:45 pm | Reply
  2. John

    Were'nt some of those what we thought were kook sites saying that WWIII in 2012,,, because i sure as hell dont think this is going to stop at Iran..

    January 17, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Reply
  3. cody heres the non fabricated facts next time do a simple google search and try not to embarrasse yourself like i said western media blackout

    January 9, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Reply
    • weknow@

      give it time ,if you havent notice everyday theres some thing about iran that we here about and wonder what if ?by next year we be at war ?why china /russia all want it oil and control

      January 12, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply
  4. Your Crazy

    Cant you all see its a strategy Iraq an Afghanistan which are all u.s occupied surround both the east and west of Iran.Giving the u.s the upper hand on an invasion of Iran.Once we get Iran we'll have have Russia and both china surrounded as well.Its about oil but as well as having a defense For the U.S beyond our Borders.

    January 5, 2012 at 10:48 pm | Reply
    • umer

      this may be a good script for a hollywood movie, but ground realities are different.

      January 6, 2012 at 2:33 am | Reply
      • JWoody

        So good a plot actually, it was used in the movie "W" where Dick Cheney made that exact point in the WH Situation Room when plotting the invasion of Iraq.

        January 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • HellJumper

      You do recall that we pulled out of Iraq correct? Before the New year... Granted your comment does make sense and be a good strategy. But again, other than the few hundred military personnel we have in Iraq, we're technically no longer there.

      January 20, 2012 at 3:03 am | Reply
  5. Umer

    I hope there will be no stupid act from anyside...let there be peace and prosperity for everyone..Man has learned everything hope they will learn to live with peace...too.. when this craziness will end? Instead of writing war on this blog, lets do some constructive and positive job....And please whoever belongs to any sect, group, country or religion, stop ill each other grownup and responsible...display your best act. thanx and goodluck.

    January 5, 2012 at 4:36 am | Reply
    • Mister Jones

      Sorry. That's a nice thought, but it isn't very realistic. Iran is provoking the strongest military in the world, and threatening one of the most critical shipping lanes on the planet. All the while, they are defying UN sanctions and enriching nuclear material. There will be more violence before there is peace.

      January 11, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
      • Seljuk

        "War does not determine who is right – only who is left"
        Bertrand Russell

        January 17, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
      • panzerduck

        um .. " you can't screw with me because I am bigger than you ' .... this is not a schoolyard...

        January 20, 2012 at 1:14 am |
  6. dan

    Robroy. You better read the history of Tawara and count up the ordinance dropped on that "sandbar". It was given a pounding starting with 16' shells for hours and followed up with ore gunnery, aerial and then howitzers etc. Since that didn't work on a little "sandbar" too well- imagine what it would have taken on those little Japanese "islands". Those H bombs saved 100's of thousands Japanese lives. Maybe it would have been a "nicer" thing to essentially firebomb their paper cities. One thing for sure... War is Hell

    January 5, 2012 at 12:03 am | Reply
  7. USA!!!

    All these posts are unnecessary. Iran is NOT going to attempt to close the strait. They're nothing but empty threats. They know their role and they know it'll be suicide if they make such an attempt. We already know where all of their military is, how many are at each location along the strait, where their subs are etc...Its simply a lose / lose situation for them since we are obligated by INTERNATIONAL LAW to police that strait and keep the flow of international vessels safe not only for the US but for other countries all over the world. Thank you very much. Keep the applaud at a minimum.

    January 4, 2012 at 9:28 am | Reply
    • Hans Wall

      I completely agree with you. Iran will not waste their limited military capabilities on a futile attempt to close the strait of Hormuz. On the other hand a much easier way for Iran to retaliate for a military attack on its nuclear sites is a direct attack on Saudi and other oil terminals in the area. Also coordinated attacks on Nigerian, Kazakhstan, and Russian oil facilities by Islamist proxies could fit into this scenario that eliminates a couple of million barrels per day oil production and throws the US world economy into a death spiral. Funny thing is that the Armageddon hopefuls of the Christian Right like Ron Rhodes just salivate to see 'The Oil Storm' happen.
      Mitt Romney's pandering to these lunatics has already had obviously a detrimental effect on his national security views.

      January 17, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Reply
  8. Andrew

    A better posture for the US would be, "we oppose the illegal blocking of internationally recognized waterways. To that end, if requested by our allies to assist in its lawful reopening, we will."

    January 3, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Reply
    • Dan

      Why at the request of our allies? We use that strait too. They block it, we strike. Period. It would be violation of international law and the only correct response to a military closure would be military force.

      January 18, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Reply
  9. cody

    you know every time i read articles like this scroll down to read the comments of stupid power hungry naive americans who only get their facts from reading cnn the most regulated and politically incorrect news site in the world iran has a out dated military and yes the us could destroy their navy but the reason why the us wont attack syria and iran is because russia has a huge navel base in syria in the port of tartus and has had it there for over 20 years and has recently sent nuclear subs ships and carriers to syria and china and russia are heavily invested in iran in their oil and nuclear facilities so read some ore maybe not on cnn and this shit aint propaganda its called history and the truth how do you think iran took down that stealth drone with russian cyber tech that was sold to iran which is state of the art and its funny how everyone in the us is worried about countrys getting nuclear weapons and using them considering the only country that ever has is the usa and they killed 100000 of thousands of people so who are the terrorists the us is full of shit its all about oil no one has any evidence that iran has a nuclear weapon or are developing one and im sure if they were russia would be concerned since they are a regional power and allie with iran the united states has a history with fabricateing bullshit to justify what they do to other countries

    January 3, 2012 at 12:30 am | Reply
    • Alexander

      Cody is that an American name yet you despise the US? I think the best place for you in to live in Iran, Syria or any Sharian controled area please as its obvious that western culture or should I say western civilisation is not to your agreement unless you already live there in which case you have no knowlege of freedom, please go and leave us & take many like yourself with you.

      January 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Reply
      • Phil the Aussie

        Alexander, I'm afraid that you bring nothing to the discussion except personal put-down. Even if Cody's remarks might seem a bit over the top to you and he'she is obviously passionate about the subject of a possible WW3, consider the following: 1. Who is threatening who between the US – Iran? 2. Who has its navy (plus several large airbases) in the middle east? Where is the Iranian navy? In Iranian waters! Iran can hit back only so hard and at present, it's "punch" is a threat to close the Strait of Hormuz. It really is all about oil.

        January 24, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • Day of Infammy

      perhaps you weren't alive when Japan was conquering Asia, allied with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy. Perhaps you don't recall headlines from guadalcanal, Midway, the Phillipines, etc. Perhaps you hadn't heard that Japan wantonly attacked the US naval base at Pearl Harbor HI, and maybe you don't know how many American sailors and soldiers were killed at Japans behest, kamikaze fighters, and crazy martial Japanese culture.
      Japan was warned that they would face total annihilation unless they accepted an unconditional surrender! they thought we were bluffing,.... but in the dark days of WWII the United States had no choice but to drop the Atomic bomb on Japan,.... twice.

      January 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Reply
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        January 3, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
      • robroy

        ah yes,the dark days of ww2. lets see August of 45, America and it's allies had already beaten Germany. Japans navy and air force had been taken care of the last time i checked the nation of Japan was made up of a number of islands. they had absolutely no oil reserve's,very little mineral resources[that's one the main reasons of the war in the pacific ] America and it's allies with their air force's and naval fire power could have conventionally brought Japans honor to it's knee's.when you have no oil or other key resources to make everyday life easy i don't care how tough of an honorable nut you are the nut will crack.which brings me to question why your military tacticians ,went and did in the battle of Tarawa ,what a tremendous waste of life .Tarawa, a sand bar with a hundred palm trees on it,a good marksman with a m1 garand would've been able to hit a Jap standing at the other end of the island.this sand bar should have been used as gun range for the navy and air forces new recruits [can you imagine battleships and cruisers big guns turning Tarawa upside down,50 b17's could have turned it back to a reef for sea life] .these japanese marines would have had no means to have been resupplied .you wasted thousands of young mens lives for this sand bar when a freighter load of bombs and shells would have a thumbs up job.

        January 3, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Erik

      Cody get a grip boy. To call the US a terrorist nation for using the atomic bomb to stop the actual terrorists which at the time were the Japanese is sheer stupidity. You might want to as you would say re visit your history. Japan was attacking and killing people all over Southeast Asia to expand its abilities to gain resources. Please before you think your some great knowledgeable person please leave your anti US sentiment at the door and try again.

      January 3, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      It appears you have fabricated quite a bit in your post.

      January 9, 2012 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • digime

      Cody can't respond right now, his mom doesn't let him use the internet after bedtime.

      January 22, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Reply
  10. Vijan Abdullah

    All Radical Muslimmms are stupid. All Radical Muuuussssssssssslims should be sent to Guantanamo for life. Ex President Bush will go down in history as the stupidest US President but the only legacy he will leave behind which made sense is Guantanamo. As long as there is a Radical Muslim in the world Guantanamo should remain in place.

    January 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Reply
  11. Prabuddha

    Sanctions are an act of war under international law especially sanctions against Oil. USA has already declared war on Iran. Question is will Iran sit by quitely while their economy collapses and their children die as they cant afford medicines or try to do something about it. Even if Iran does not dare an open war it may try to use special operations/ terrorism (Funny if US does it its called specops if someone else does it it is terrorism)

    January 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Reply
    • Andrew

      If your targets are armed, you're specops, if they're unarmed, you're a terrorist.

      January 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Reply
  12. Adam

    If the US could take out the Iranian naval and military capability and prevent them from closing the strait of hormuz, they would have done it a long time ago.

    January 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Reply
    • Johnathan

      Iran could close the straight. Until the USA got the go ahead to destroy the Iranian navy, air force and all Iranian bases too. That would probably take all of 72 hrs? Anyway the US will not without great reason. It's what's right and politically correct. That's the way the US of A works.

      January 1, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Reply
      • robroy

        that's right Johnathan without great reason, oh by the way what was the great reason in Iraq?lets see weapons of mass destruction [bush and cheney]capability of hitting Europe with missiles[tony blair ]and last but not least and here's a real eye wetter "he tried to kill my daddy [bush].So Johnathan,with 3 great reasons like these you Americans have told the rest of the world that if you can come up with 3 bullshit stories you can go into any country and thump the dna out of them?rules are written by the big boys on the block,but during a war crimes trial aren't both sides allowed to defend themselves?

        January 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • KA

        I call bullshit. Your post is short and you still sound pretentious. You can't possibly believe that the US acts honorably or needs great reason for invading. If a country has a resource the US can exploit they will use propaganda and fear to get your power-hungry country brainwashed enough to think what they're doing is for the greater good. Do you need some concrete examples or are you capable of realizing your mentality is flawed? Perhaps you should read some of the CIA documents about their role in South America...

        May 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Chicagorich

      I am rather certain we could, though it might involve using some more strategic weapons to minimize loss of U.S. lives. We would have to establish air superiority quickly and then neutralize the missile and artillery threats which would involve taking out lots of bunkers, some of which are in populated areas. It would be messy and many thousands would perish in the process. War is definitely not what we prefer. All of this would have to be followed up with a land invasion to dismantle the nuclear program there and install a new government. Although Iran's defenses are a bit more robust than those in Iraq, I suspect they would be overcome rather quickly. Like Iraq, occupation would probably be more costly to us than taking out their military forces, since unlike some, we don't slaughter the innocent civilians. The only reason we would attack Iran would be to avoid a bigger war later with a nuclear armed Iran or those they would give nukes to. If they did not have a nuclear weapons program, or if they did not export terrorism and threaten to wipe out another nation, we would not even consider such a thing.

      January 1, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Reply
      • robroy

        now that's what i mean folks,feelings from the heart[just a moment while i wipe my tears off my keyboard].You don't slaughter innocent civilians?What hole on the moon did you crawl out of,man there's a whole shit load of Afghans and Iraqi's who'd be alive today if that comment were true.Check out "ON THE DARK SIDE OF AL DOURA,A SOLDIERS IN THE SHADOWS ON PULSE TV AND MAVERICK MEDIA",it's just a small story of many to come out of those 2 countries.listen Chicagorich,you mentioned their nuclear program and nuke's.Let them have their nuclear program,i mean who in their right mind would drop a nuclear bomb on another nations civilian population and to even repeat it would be almost fanatical ,some folks should not be looking at their bathroom mirror when reading that last comment,wouldn't you say CHICAGORICH ?

        January 2, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
      • ChicagoRich

        I don't think I should need to explain that it would be well within our means to completely depopulate Afghanistan, or leave all of its cities looking like Grozny after Putin's subduing the rebellion there. That is clearly not what we have done, and we have in fact invested quite a bit in building roads and schools there, none of which directly benefit those of us who paid for them. Civilians are killed in wars, but we do not intentionally target them, and that is the point. My belief is that more people would ultimately die if Iran obtained nuclear weapons as I do not believe they have the self restraint not to use them or spread the technology. I believe their fanaticism would ultimately lead to a catastrophe involving those weapons. You might be willing to risk that but I and many like me do not intend to. As for your alluding to the U.S. use of nuclear weapons in WW2, while that use was deadly for the civilians in those cities, it was in my belief necessary. Let me explain why I believe this to be so. It was estimated based on our experiences on Iwo Jima that we would lose a million or so men in a land invasion of Honshu and that the civilian population there would have been decimated. It is most probable that fewer Japanese people died as well as a result of Japans surrender after the bombs were used as opposed to a drawn out land invasion which would have likely killed millions. My opinion might be a bit subjective though, because I would quite possibly not be here if we had not used those weapons as my father was in the army at the time. I would also point out that we did not start that war, and were attacked by Japan in a surprise attack on our forces. The same is also true of Afghanistan as the organization that attacked us on 9/11 was based there and ultimately protected by and in collusion with the government in power there at the time. You would like to think my country evil, but you are actually mistaken. I am not sure where you are from, so I can not compare what is similar or different between the actions of your home country and mine, but do not think there is not a rationality behind what my country does, and quite a bit of it has to do with avoiding a World War 3 which would wipe out most of humanity. Preventing Iran from having nukes would fall along those lines. Most of the conflicts we have been involved in since WW2 have been in keeping with the principles outlined in the Atlantic Charter, agreed to with Great Britain during the course of WW2, the principles of which are still a basic part of our foreign policy.

        January 3, 2012 at 2:21 am |
      • robroy

        So,let's see if your right on this bit of history.your great leader George Bush and his lap dog Tony Blair sold a trilogy of bullshit lies to the rest of the world about Iraq.1 they blew more smoke then a box of Cuban cigars about the weapons of mass destruction.Bush sent his little messenger boys around the world and to the U.N. to spread all this b.s. No one was to doubt this because this was preached to be American intelligence at it's best,right?2 Tony Blair sold Europe on the fear factor that Iraq's missiles would be on their doorstep within 45 minutes,a combination of British and American intelligence at it's finest hour of bullshit!!!3 here's an eye wetter,Bush said Saddam tried to kill his daddy.this one was put out there to rev up all the red necks in your trailer parks into a war frenzy. SO CHICAGORICH ,i'll ask this question because you seem to be a person with some know how.these 3 bullshit factors were the foundation for the armed conflict to remove another countries leader,so why did Bush and Blair walk away from the cross hairs of war crimes being laid against them.

        January 4, 2012 at 9:21 am |
      • eugene

        It's funny how the biggest terrorist in the world loves to call other countries terrorists. Let's look at the 8yr Iran-Irag war, America once again on the side of evil. Sadam was supplied with America's best technology and that was not enough to conquer Iran. When everything is said and done, the Romans thought that their empire would last forever. As mighty as America is, the world is passing America with her "machines" of mass destruction. We only have that killing machine but that too will pass. Wake up America you are on the clock...... God bless America!

        January 10, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • Scott

      This isnt the first time Iran tried it Adam. They unsuccessfully tried to close the strait in the early 80's during the Regan administration. The only difference now is that they are already at the brink of war with most of NATO over their continued violations. The Iranian navy, if you could call it a real navy, would be destroyed instantly if it attempts to fire on international war ships that are stationed around the area and would provide safe access for tankers.

      January 2, 2012 at 8:28 am | Reply
  13. Borune

    Stop Terrorizing Terrorists!

    December 30, 2011 at 7:57 pm | Reply
  14. Jim Johnson

    What most of you are missing is the fanatical nature of the Iranian govt. They actually believe that they will go to heaven if they kill infidels. Just look the endless supply of suicide bombers. These are true believers the most dangerous of all fanatics. Take a religion that makes a dirt farmer better than all women and all nonbelievers, that is still mired in the 6th century and try to understand this; We are at war with islam, whether you like it or not. Until islam has a reformation and joins the 21st century we will remain at war with them. Personally I think that islam will not allow a peaceful solution.

    December 30, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Reply
    • Borune

      You stupid Christian bafoon...You really need to get around and see the world a bit more and understand people and the way they live and what their beliefs are and try and respect that for the fact that they belong here on earth just as you have rights to live. It is when you become infidels on their earth ( their part of the world and their home and their way of life and their oil and their position and money as well as their cultural and religious beliefs as well)... it is when you out of sure EGO build the largest Navy and decide to conquer the world through politics and national interest, cause death and murder and rape in every sense. To defeat the Muslim defined terrorists, understand their religion, it's beautiful. just as the Bible is to you. Build relations on relations, not your present course of sentiment. It's easy to forget and not understand what it must be like for such people in these parts of the world when they know the might America commands. The world knows, we all do. America united once to get their GI's back from Nam, I think it's time America withdraw all forces every where from every base and sit down and unite to create a greener America, coz that shit is crazy too.
      I know you'd like to preserve your way of life, just don't destroy others in the process...!

      December 30, 2011 at 7:47 pm | Reply
      • Brain in DC

        "understand their religion, it's beautiful". Read their books and you'll find out, you'll be surprised how ugly and full of distrust and hatred it is!

        December 31, 2011 at 11:04 am |
      • taliyo

        You should read their holy book and then consider that a very high percentage of Muslims take it literally. You might want to read up on what lack of education and literal belief in holy texts has caused in past holy wars. You speak as if you are enlightened, but you just barely understand.

        December 31, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • eugene

      Jim are we talking about the Saudis, the only tyhing the Iranians did was to take back their country from that puppet the Shah. You are mistaken "sunni Islam" promoted by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Bin Laden was not in any shiite country but was in our allies' country. Why did we not bomb the Saudis? Afterall, 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, yet another friend. The Jews were promised a state as payments for the deceptions they did to the Germans. Please read the history of ww1.... Shiite muslims have never done anything to America or the west. Jim, America has maNY PEOPLE'S BLOOD on hand THAT SHE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR.

      January 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Reply
    • Seljuk

      Show me a peaceful solution that Christianity has brought about...It was mostly Christians at each others throats during WWI and WWII and now that they have stopped killing each other they are out to make new enemies. If you are a true Christian you should ask yourself this "What would Jesus do?" I am sure he would not have dropped the A-Bomb on someones house dude...

      January 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Reply
  15. rocraccoon

    We have had enough wars. Now we sell 30 billion in F-15s to Saudi Arabia to get ready for another. This administration has outdone GW in war mongering. We ARE and should be the laughing stock of the world. Obama needs to turn in his peace prize.

    December 30, 2011 at 10:39 am | Reply
    • duckforcover

      We have had plenty of wars. But don't blame Obama. Iraq and Afganistan were going long before he was President. Oh yeah, and Bin Laden was alive too.

      December 30, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • cathy pittaway

      make love not war

      December 31, 2011 at 7:53 am | Reply
      • David, Tampa

        Republican'ts have a very hard time doing that. War mongers generally have miniature pee pee's

        January 1, 2012 at 2:54 am |
      • Dennis

        Let me know how to get a hold of you,Cathy.I'd like to take you up on your idea.

        January 9, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  16. Tom Clark

    The US/Israeli military will attempt to harass Iran into retaliation, and then attack them saying .look what they did. This whole thing is so ignorant and dangerous, but many US citizens act like macho savages. After Iran then who is the next likely target of the 'empire'? So many of these comments sound like what it must have been like in Germany in the late 30's and early 40's. Nationalism over all. This is disgusting, where are the 'Christian' leaders in the US, praying for peace?????

    December 29, 2011 at 10:48 pm | Reply
    • USN83

      Tom where are you from? I hope you realize that Iran is a fundamentalist state, that in some ways embodies what the Third Reich did. Iran is a problem, and the sooner you realize it the better.

      December 30, 2011 at 1:56 am | Reply
      • Josh

        What if us trying to police the world is a problem? The sooner you realize this, the better. I say when Iran actually stops the Strait of Hormuz, then we can proceed to ass kicking. Until then, we have many domestic enemies here at home we must look at.

        December 30, 2011 at 4:21 am |
      • Borune

        Iran or any other such country America has decided to consider as a perceived threat does so never keeping in mind the effects it's actions have on the rest of the world. There is no threat!!! Period! You create a threat and there is a threat. America, ever since it decided to interfere in international affairs has caused more chaos then create peace. The working government and the military might that it has created has made the country what it is today, hated and not so trustworthy, where National Interest has plundered and murdered millions just in order to create "In our best interests". Man will fight and America has been drawing first blood. But in the circles of time, there will be time for redemption... Christian redemption...But always remember... you have created the threat... and in your interests for national security... whatever that may mean... your time for redemption will come... threat or none...

        December 30, 2011 at 8:11 am |
      • Rick Saadeh

        Comparing the Islamic Republic of Iran to the Third Reich exposes and exemplifies how little we, as Americans, know regarding that part of the world.

        Whether Iran has the legal or moral right to block the Strait of Hormuz in response to a proposed escalation of sanctions to include Iranian oil exports, are issues about which I do not have enough information to address. However, what has been clear about the history of the West's relationship with Iran is that it has truly been unjust.

        After being popularly and fairly elected by the Iranian people to be their President, a coup by the West brought down Mohammad Mossaddegh and confined him to indefinite house arrest. In his place, the West installed a puppet regime, led by the so-called Shah and, during his 30 year rein, his brutal secret police (strongly supported by our government) terrorized the people, torturing and killing tens of thousands.

        In response to the pent-up anger of the Iranians in taking American personnel hostage after a bloody revolution which brought down the Shah, our government encouraged and supported an eight-year war by Iraq's Saddam Hussein against Iran which resulted in the deaths of over a million people on both sides.

        More recently, the West has led a campaign of unjust sanctions against Iran, based essentially on suspicions of its engaging in the production of nuclear weapons. While Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, there is a section in that treaty which allows a country, when faced with imminent attack, to protect itself, including developing nuclear weapons. In effect, we are creating a self-fulfilling prophesy.

        The answer in dealing with Iran, hence, is not the threat of force, sanctions, or bullying. Rather, it is genuine and sustained dialog, based on mutual interests. President Obama started off on the right track with Iran in trying to engage them but lost patience and erroneously concluded any further talks were futile.

        Iran will ultimately be able to produce nuclear weapons regardless of sanctions or even military strikes and, when it does, any potential leverage will have been lost permanently, not to mention having a formidable regional power in the region.

        Our President lost opportunities to capitalize on the fact that Iran and our country do have mutual interests on the topics dealing with Afghanistan, Iraq, and Al-Qaeda but I do not believe they are gone forever. So let's encourage our President to get back on the right track with Iran.

        December 30, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
      • Adam

        Iran does have the capability to close the strait of hormuz and morons who know nothing except that the US has the most advanced military on earth thinks they could wipe out Iran's forces in days. Haha yeah ok. What about those 20 or so subs they have and everything else. Do you think you can use B2s and cluster bombs in the gulf to take out the navy? Go ahead, you'll take out all the tankers going by as well.

        January 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
      • Steve

        Adam do you know anything about the US military? When we invaded Iraq they had the third largest military in the world, go ask them how long they lasted. If Iran closes the Straight and the government decides to act, it'll be open within a day or two.

        January 1, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
      • USA!!!

        ADAM, You sir, need to go back to school and get your GED. You seriously think we don't know where every piece of their military is at every port along the strait? You seriously think we don't have satellite imagery and and underwater recon missions, infrared, heat signatures, motion sensors etc....We've already beaten Iran into submission, they just have to make the first move and it'll be the END of them. I hope they decide to make their FIRST and LAST military attack targeting a US Naval Ship LOL

        January 4, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • ruemorgue

      Hey, is your name Neville Chamberlain?

      December 30, 2011 at 10:19 am | Reply
  17. Cassandra Chu

    ... enough of war. let's give Peace a chance. Peace is Possible!

    December 29, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Reply
    • USA!!!

      Its inevitable that as along as man walks the earth, there will never be peace. Never.

      January 4, 2012 at 9:14 am | Reply
  18. DSBsky

    Tipping point? Been there. Only a matter of time with Iran. They keep flexing their muscles we're gonna step in with the needle to pop them, like a 1980's cartoon. Puff up your chest to the biggest superpower in the world.. See what happens..

    December 29, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Reply
    • robroy

      wasn't too many years ago Mr gungho that someone did puff up their chest to a super power.they put on shorts and sandals,grabbed their rpg's and ak-47's. then played cat and mouse in the jungles of Vietnam for 10years until you folks pulled your flag off your embassy and left with your tail between your legs.sounds like its repeating itself in the mountains of Afghanistan[10 years an running ]. just remember,when your puffing your own chest,keep one hand over your crotch cause someone's gonna get a good history has proven.

      December 29, 2011 at 7:05 pm | Reply
      • Allen Crump

        no jungle in the desert , cant hide in the sand

        December 29, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
      • ram rod

        robroy first of why are you using a name like an iconic person like robroy. I bet you are a middle eastern, are you ashamed of what you are? second if its china's oil that is being missed with wouldn't china be pissed at Iran for stopping the pass of there oil. Third Vietnam was a choice of a President to pull our people out not our military; they would of kept on fighting tell no enemy was left alive. so get your shit right next time you want to post or be an idiot like the rest of Americans that like to post ignorant things and enjoy the freedoms that America provides for there citizens.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:42 am |
      • Moskit

        First of all Robbedboy we did not lose because of military defeat in Nam.We simply refrained from going in for the kill and carpet bombing Hanoi to ashes and would not use all the tools in the US arsenal to achieve total victory.There many targets that were not attacked due to political consideration.We could have nuked those little bastards into submission and almost did.Second in Taliban land we are ready to fight anyone who wants to engage but the enemy wants to sneak about the civilian population and does not want to fight directly against our forces thus they make quick attacks and flee into pakistan to regroup.Thirdly i hope that you try to kick an american paratrooper in the crotch and balls and puff your chest!

        December 30, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
      • robroy

        it's good to see larry, curly and moe responding in their,"it's our way or hit the highway attitude"you'd still be chasing those boys around the jungles of Vietnam til this day.those rice paddy growers were such a threat to world peace you misguided morons . some of you called it a political decision ?last time we checked you Americans even gave your presidents the gung ho title of commander-an -chief,sounds a little on the military aura .you folks blow more smoke up people's ass's then a box of Cuban cigars!!!!!! you folks sometimes mention about nukes,let's cut to the chase give Iran a six pack of nukes to have in their inventory [you americans must have a few left over from your sale to Israel ] remember your safe if you got them,hold on to your nut's if you don''s an odd statistic the 6 countries that sit on the U.N. security council are also the 6 largest arms dealers in the world,nothing like looking after the bank account while waving your finger at the little guys and telling them to behave to your rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        December 31, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
      • Scott Byars

        Robroy, your word are wonderfully frightening... I mean, it takes a lot of balls to congure up weak insults from behind a keyboard. Meet any REAL American face-to-face without confrontation and I think you would find us to be just like you. Meet any REAL American face to face confrontationaly... prepare to get your ass beaten to a bloody pulp. It is easy to hide behind a keyboard and talk garbage, but not so easy to fight face to face with us.

        January 3, 2012 at 1:22 am |
    • Borune

      The problem dear chap... is that America is a bully and bullies never live long!!!

      You'll should not be there in the Middle east at all... It was a failed and fabricated war and your political whim-fall has always been in the habit to pick fights with the smaller struggling minorities... Flex those muscles americans.... coz at the end of the day, there may not be too many left to continue the celebrating.

      December 30, 2011 at 8:18 am | Reply

    MILLIONS TO BE ASSASSINATED FOR THE SAKE OF $$$ LIABILITIES(mk-ultra, chip implants, electroshocks etc. performed on them) AND NEW WORLD ORDER(multiculturalism = terrorism) POLITICAL AGENDA KNOWN AS "YOU ARE NEXT"(financial liabilities are 2 expensive for the government and it is cheaper to get read of you instead) !!! IF YOU WERE TREATED WITH ELECTROSHOCKS OR DRUGS USED FOR WIPING OUT MEMORY(numerous Americans and Europeans were and are) AFTER ENDURING FORCED CHIP IMPLANTS(or to simply retard individual), NOT THAT CHANCES ARE, BUT YOU ARE SCHEDULED AT 100% RATE AS GOOD TO GO NEXT !!!





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    December 29, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Reply
    • DSBsky

      Lol Out with whites huh? Always everyone else being racist and yet they all manage to blame the white people.. How about this then.. Look in the mirror next time you want to call someone racist and realize that it is in fact YOU that is the racist.. I shouldn't even respond to you really but you are just so lost and so pathetically stupid, I couldn't help it..

      December 29, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Reply
      • Borune

        There would not be a word such as Racism if it were not for the snotty white Supremacism beliefs that you whites so strongly hold onto... read up on your history... that should shut you up!

        December 30, 2011 at 8:28 am |
    • David, Tampa

      Silly Rabbit!
      South Africa did that. remember? did Zimbabwe, Kenya, The Congo and others. The result is always the same. The whites leave, the blacks take over the government and steal everything in sight. Then there is a revolution and the whole country is in the toilet.

      January 1, 2012 at 3:01 am | Reply
    • Barbarian.King

      Im not white and that was the most stupidest comment on this panel.. religion was meant to serve one purpose and that is to control you, nothing more nothing less..

      January 5, 2012 at 10:04 am | Reply
  20. Anpadh

    If it is so easy to counter Iran, then why is this in the CNN World News section? It should be in the cartoons section.

    December 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Reply
  21. 2ND Airborne Pilot

    I am looking forward to our next sortie program. We will surely embark on a program of stacking up their charred raghead corpses. I look forward to our mission.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • Tom Clark

      Do they actually let psychopathic lunatic killers fly airplanes?

      December 29, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Reply
      • SPECOPS12

        what type of person do you think it takes to wipe out the enemy so directly? you think all of our armed forces are sane? we are trained killers...

        December 30, 2011 at 8:03 am |
  22. Hahahahahahahaha

    I can mount a gun on my 20 Lund fishing boat and call it a warship too. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Reply
  23. Chuck Yagar

    Hey Sayan, remember the three words all Iraqi AF pilots dreaded hearing? "Clear For Takeoff" Same will apply to the Iranian AF. Cheers!

    December 29, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Reply
    • Sayan Majumdar

      Never underestimate your opponent, it is unprofessional (especially for somebody “impersonating” a Service professional).


      December 30, 2011 at 6:38 am | Reply
    • Borune

      You sound so cheerful when the gun is still in your hand... maybe the next time america decides to go to war would be when it has a nice little nuke rupturing it's eastern sea board. Remember 9/11 was a warning that america can be hit. So remember before antagonizing a country for your thurstful fuel needs... You are still robbing the world of it's fuel. It's not yours to take. Nothing is. And when taken at gunpoint, that is rape...

      December 30, 2011 at 8:36 am | Reply
      • Sucka Punch

        Im Still waiting on that so called "stolen" oil chodes like you keep saying America Took from IRAQ Paying the same for gas that i was before we invaded.

        December 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
      • Moskit

        Nice little nuke on the eastern seaboard?Do you work for the ghost buried at sea in a classified area?The gun was actually in your hands then you pointed it at the US flag and were quickly disarmed and neutralized by a greenberet! I agree with you on one point however, US needs to stop getting our oil from middle eastern countries and we should keep the oil we drill for here in ourhomeland.With Canadian oil and oil from the north atlantic we don't really need to take it from the middle east anymore.

        December 30, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
    • Seljuk

      Best way to win a war is by avoiding one...

      January 17, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  24. Jason

    I wonder who will come save us from our reckless economic and military ignorance? Will they say they are protecting their own strategic interests? Ours? What if they do it in the name of preservation and freedom of humanity?

    If it isn't too late, people will vote for the constitution this time.

    Ron Paul & Jon Huntsman 2012

    December 29, 2011 at 11:02 am | Reply
    • Caroline

      They are not ignorant. In fact they have many brain and think tanks and operating several steps ahead.
      Re: of sensitive diplomatic concern
      Have seen, a blatant invitation to sue but allow of discredit, disgrace to perhaps even disavow at the same time. What does that constitute? What is that?

      December 29, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Reply
      • Borune

        It's called "America"... taking away your liberties and enforcing slave labor... under the guise of economic political gain.

        December 30, 2011 at 8:38 am |
      • Borune

        Welcome to the New World Order!

        December 30, 2011 at 8:40 am |
  25. michaelfury

    "Admiral Cosgriff’s caution was well founded: within a week, the Pentagon acknowledged that it could not positively identify the Iranian boats as the source of the ominous radio transmission, and press reports suggested that it had instead come from a prankster long known for sending fake messages in the region. Nonetheless, Cosgriff’s demeanor angered Cheney, according to the former senior intelligence official. But a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the U.S. didn’t do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. 'The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,' he said."

    December 29, 2011 at 7:56 am | Reply
    • Borune

      What is wrong with you people.... Do you all suffer from a common delusion? "why the U.S. didn’t do more"... what is that.... what is it? What else do you want to do? I know the US military is another economic arm of the country, war fuels cost rise and wars are not cheap... stop this!!! stop it now... stop finding every thing and every one opposing you'll as a threat. Grow up and try working together... Give more... You'll love to quote Gandhi... but you'll will never follow what he had said... it's all a rebuke and it's got to stop. The Gulf of Hormuz is not your back yard... stop making it yours. It belongs to the people living there. International waters and treaty accords will never work if you'll keep shoving guns up each other.

      December 30, 2011 at 8:48 am | Reply
  26. Sayan Majumdar

    In case of outbreak of hostilities in the littoral environment the United States Navy (USN) need to be extra careful as USN will face unpredicted challenges from Iranian coastal missile batteries.

    Plus do not discount Iranian Navy operated Russian origin Kilo Class (displayed several times in the video footage) conventional powered hunter-killer submarines (SSK). They represent one of the quietest of its type, very effective in the continental shelf region, and pose a decent challenge even to the mighty USN aircraft carrier battle groups (CVBG) with the potential of inflicting considerable damage if not countered at the onset of operations.


    December 29, 2011 at 7:07 am | Reply
    • Da Pop

      @Sayan while you talk a "good" game, the Kilo class Russian sub you so vividly point out is archaic to say the least. The USN's Los Angles class hunter killer subs are more than adequate to handle the Kilo’s and have been for the past 20 yrs. The only “danger” the Iranians pose are the land-based ”Silkworm” missiles they have lining the straits. I’m very confident we know exactly where each battery of those is. God forbid a shooting war breaks out, but you can bet your bottom dollar if one does, the missile sites go first, what passes as an Air Force will be second and this so-called “Iranian Navy” will have a helluva time without air cover.

      December 29, 2011 at 9:22 am | Reply
      • Don't know a thing

        Heh. They've only found ONE of our spy drones - how long do you figure we've been keeping an eye on Iran? I think we can comfortably say we enjoy a technological, informational, and economic advantage. Any conflict will be swift and decisive. I don't think the Iranian population would be friendly to an insurgency, if it came to that - of course here's hoping it doesn't come to invasion, I'm just saying. Iran's in no position to be making threats.

        December 29, 2011 at 10:58 am |
      • robroy

        hey Da Pop, remember within the past 2 years a diesel powered sub of the Chinese navy surfaced undetected within easy striking distant of a U.S. carrier task force[a short story on your patriotic news channels,but i bet shit hit the fan behind closed doors]SECOND you folks know your screwing around with China's oil ,maybe they'll give the Iranians one of their noisy diesel subs to keep their oil flowing.THIRD the Iranians aren't the only ones hoping for a six pack of nukes for their own arsenal, as the common saying goes "IF YOU GOT NUKES YOUR SAFE, IT'S WHEN YOU DON'T HOLD ON TO YOUR NUT'S" my,my it just came on CNN about your governments sale of 30 billion dollars worth of fighters to Saudia Arabia ,nothing like keeping the shit disturbing policies rolling along .FINAL YOU AMERICANS CHECK OUT "ON THE DARK SIDE IN AL DOURA" ON PULSE TV AND MAVERICK MEDIA, IF YOU DON'T HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME YOUR NO BETTER THEN THOSE ONES HIDING IN THOSE MOUNTAINS IN AFGHANISTAN!!!!!!!!!!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
      • Sayan Majumdar

        Iranian Navy operated Russian origin Kilo Class conventional powered hunter-killer submarines (SSK) will always remain a dangerous threat in the shallow waters of the continental shelf region.

        Nuclear powered hunter-killer submarines (SSN) such as United States Navy (USN) Los Angles and to a lesser extent Virginia Class SSNs have limitations in such “environments”.


        December 30, 2011 at 6:33 am |
      • Borune

        The world has had enough of Your bull... the next time you'll consider war... hopefully with Iran... this time I hope it's nuclear.. that should end this non-stop bickering of power. I just hope President Obama is not in office... He's too good a fellow. Re-Elect the former George W. Bush to finish off your madness.

        December 30, 2011 at 8:53 am |
    • Moskit

      The coastal missle batteries are a threat from iran but they can be taken out by tomahawk missles fired from subs which most definetly are hiding in the area.The aircraft carriers have f-18's loaded up with laser guided bombs and maverick missles which can take out most land targets while some fighter groups will engage any migs which patrol the coast of iran.The f-4s and f-14s that iran posses will be elimanted very quickly by our fighters which are manned by very good pilots.The real threat to our navy is the supersonic antiship missles(Moskit) and super cavitating torpedoes that iran has that are very hard to defend against as there is little time to take evasive action due to their speed.However the moskit must be fired from a mig and that will be much harder to do with f-18's on CAP routes about the theatre.The torpedoes must be launched as well from subs which are no match for our 5th fleet.Goog luck to Iran!

      December 30, 2011 at 7:32 pm | Reply
      • David, Tampa

        Dude............coastal missle launchers????? Really....... looks like a WW2 German V1 to me Love the protection for the truck tires. OMG

        January 1, 2012 at 3:19 am |
    • Justanotherday

      FIrst, I would like to say all this talk of military action is hard pressed. Closing the SOH has not only major military ramifications for Iran but also economic ramifications for themselves. Second, if we were to go to "war" it wouldn't last long maybe a couple months tops if that. The US Military would never touch the ground we would only go to open the SOH back up. This would be done from outside the SOH were our advance military would blow all military designated targets in Iran after which we would simply wait for the Iran Navy to return to port due to lack of supplies and when they get back they'll realize that have no where to dock or have no supplies due to planned strikes. The US could open the SOH without ever having to combat the so called threat the KILO and the KILO that showed up in a strike group was over two years ago get educated on that. If you knew any better they surfaced cause they didn't want to get blown to pieces and if you truly think this Relic called the KILO is still a threat you don't know much about the new military advances that have taken place.

      December 31, 2011 at 8:43 am | Reply
  27. Mr Raygor

    The next war America gets in to will not be like our current occupation type of warfare. The American people have had it with sending their own to help a bunch of assholes, this next war we will send missles and other drone type machinations and use covert ops.(which we are already doing in Iran) and turn that place in to a crater that will take a hundred generations for them to climb out of...

    December 29, 2011 at 12:29 am | Reply
    • Borune

      Hey Mr. Raygor, the next time you post such stuff... remember there are kids, just like yours, same age, same likes and dislikes there in that crater you have created.... dead!!! Thank you for being such a humble humanitarian I bet you claim to be back home around your loving family and neighbors...

      December 30, 2011 at 8:56 am | Reply
      • Sucka Punch

        Well The Same can be said for your friend AHMADUMBNUTJOB talking about wiping Israel off the map. We didnt storm the Iranian Embassy and hold them hostage, we havent threatened to wipe anyone off the map. We didnt threaten to choke off the worlds oil supply and create a GLOBAL depression. We didnt break any treaty saying we wouldnt pursue Nuclear weapons like Iran has. We have simply imposed sanctions on a country that is in the process of acquiring Nuclear weapons solely for offensive purposes ( I.E. threatening to wipe out another country off the map) We are'nt sponsoring terrorists all over the world...... shall i go on? Iran is a great big pimple that needs to be popped .

        December 30, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • Seljuk

      The Persians have been around fighting wars long before people set foot on Plymouth Rock, not to mention their skill at the game of chess...battles are won by might, wars are won by patience and tactic

      January 17, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Reply
  28. radgast

    It would be the stupidest thing Iran could do, they are all talk

    December 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Reply
    • Borune

      Man O man.. and you Americans are so full of action... Sitting home flicking your fingers over the TV channels while you'll contribute to the worlds largest obese populous.

      December 30, 2011 at 9:00 am | Reply
      • Sucka Punch

        Personally I spent 3 tours greasing Terrorists.........

        December 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm |


    December 28, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Reply
  30. standman

    we wont even flex a muscle ..our president dosnt have the bawls to take a few ships out

    December 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Reply
    • Don't know a thing

      Say what you will about Obama (I'm not a fan), the man certainly has "bawls." He green-lit an invasion of Pakistan to get at OBL, stood up NATO in Libya and said "YOU do it," and stuck it out in Iraq even after promising to pull the plug in his first year of office.... no, the guy's got cojones of steel, that's not his problem.

      December 29, 2011 at 11:01 am | Reply
    • Fuckin idiot

      Yes he does. He authroized the assassination of a target in a nuclear armed country spent 6 months dealing with the libyans and took troops from Iraq. He will respond with military force if needed. His record proves it

      December 29, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Reply
    • Tom Clark

      Perhaps he has the wisdom, not to, i hope.

      December 29, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Reply
  31. Leroy

    Do you really thing Americans will stand for another costly war, with all the debt we're in? People will really sacrifice their sons and daughters over nonsense after the tragedy in Iraq? Bush isn't President anymore; wartime is supposed to be over. Where will you get the money? Higher taxes? Borrow from China? Fools.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Reply
    • ram

      American average citizen like you do not have a say in this matter. The word comes for association that has the us by its balls.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:49 am | Reply
      • michaelfury

        December 29, 2011 at 7:54 am |
      • David, Tampa

        Tell ya what bud. Americans DO have a say. And when the American public speaks, everyone listens. We are very slow to speak. Don't ever attack this country again. You don't really believe that Nukes are our latest and greatest do you? Freekin' Saudies got a pass on the last deal. They will not again. It is much more fun to do property damage than to kill. A pulse weapon does just that.

        January 1, 2012 at 3:31 am |
  32. Skeptic

    It will be a suicide for Iran because we will just occupy the country and repeat Iraq war all over again. This time it will be even more expensive, but it's not an option.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Reply
    • glenn robert

      We will not occupy Iran a country of 70,000,000 when we made a mess of Iraq who had 22,000,000. Iran has not started a war out side of their country in my life time (82 years).

      December 29, 2011 at 3:05 am | Reply
  33. str8vision

    Iran's threat to blockade Middle East oil exports in the strait of Hormuz is just typical Iranian theatrical rhetoric. Big talk no action, that's Iran's approach to international diplomacy. In the coming days they will ramp up the inflammatory rhetoric but in the end, they will stay safely at home claiming victory.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • ram

      Iran can use hundereds of those floating cars that they produced last year and all you guys laughed at the antiquity of them. Now they can use them to continually and continuously occupy the Iranian part of the strait. Is it illegal for Iran to use its boat-cars in their own strait? Yes man it is possible. Land and take off one thousand times an hour...occupy Hurmoz! occupy Hurmoz!

      December 29, 2011 at 1:56 am | Reply
      • Hahahahahahahaha

        Your hilarious ram!!! No really!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha. Floating cars.....hahahahahahahaha.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
      • David, Tampa

        Hey ram is this all you guys have???

        Don't fire one of those things at us.

        January 1, 2012 at 3:34 am |

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