Confessions of a private security contractor
December 27th, 2011
04:38 PM ET

Confessions of a private security contractor

by Suzanne Kelly

"There are a lot of assumptions about contractors, and a lot of the assumptions are wrong." Those are the words of a private security contractor who asked to be referred to only as "Lloyd" for this story, because like most of his colleagues he is not authorized to speak to the media.

By Lloyd's count, he has spent some 1,000 days working in Afghanistan in the past four years. He, like many other well-trained military men, decided to leave his position as a Navy SEAL and take his chances finding employment in one of the hot spots around the world where highly skilled contractors were well-paid, and in demand.

Very few people outside the contracting industry really understood just what a private security contractor did before March 31, 2004. That was the day four American security contractors accompanying a shipment of kitchen equipment through Iraq were ambushed, killed, set on fire, dragged through the streets, and hung from a bridge before a cheering crowd in the city of Fallujah.

As shock subsided, questions arose. Who were these American men? If they weren't members of the military, what were they doing in one of the most volatile regions of Iraq?

All four men were private security contractors working for a company called Blackwater. At the time the company, like many others, was just getting on its feet as U.S. demand for security services skyrocketed. The government needed armed, well-trained security personnel in hostile territories. The new push started when the United States went to war in a CIA-led operation in Afghanistan in 2001. e CIA's early advance teams were not fully prepared for the pace of their own success. They quickly needed makeshift facilities to hold hostile enemy combatants and establish secure operating bases. The military wasn't yet in a position to help, so the CIA hired Blackwater.

It was a similar story when the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003. A heavy presence of diplomats and reconstruction experts working in a hostile area meant they needed to be protected. Blackwater won a part of the contract to provide security services in the country. But being a private security contractor was a shady business, if not in the "legal" sense, in the "keeping off the radar" sense. Many of the contracts that were granted to companies such as Blackwater included clauses that severely limited the companies' ability to talk to members of the media. Contracting was, by the design of the U.S. government, secretive.

It was also designed to be nothing more than a cost-saving, stopgap measure. But as U.S. troops leave Iraq, there is an army of contractors staying behind, and 5,000 of them will be providing security services.

A contractor's experiences often don't draw a great deal of attention, unless someone is kidnapped, or has done something wrong. As Congress began to investigate the government's use of contractors several years ago, the issues that drew the most attention were the lack of clear rules governing contractors, and just how much money they were being paid. While it's true that money has always been a big draw, there are other parts of the job and lifestyle that rarely get reported.

"I remember when I got out of the military and took my first job with Blackwater," says Lloyd, "I thought I was going to be a millionaire, but after working five years in contracting, I can tell you I was chasing a carrot the whole time."

At the height of the boom in the years following the start of the Iraq war, private security contractors with military or law enforcement experience could make upwards of $750 a day. They would work for several months at a time and then come home before heading off on the next assignment. Many of the jobs didn't come with life insurance policies or medical coverage for their families back home.

"Layoffs and breaks between deployments have all affected my financial progress," says Lloyd. "It's two steps forward and one step back." He has a wife back home who is awaiting the birth of the couple's first child and says he worries because he has no pension. He reports that he has $30,000 in a 401(k) and another $15,000 in A Roth IRA. It's nowhere near the million he thought he would earn.

Another contractor, who worked for two of the larger private security companies before finding an office job back home, says it was a sense of duty after 9/11 that prompted him to leave his job as a SWAT team officer and go overseas. But the money wasn't bad, either.

"I got in so early that when I got into it the money was good," says Carter, who doesn't want to use his real name out of fear that he will have trouble getting hired for another contract if anyone knows he's spoken with CNN. "We were making $700 – $750 a day regardless of the contract. Some paid higher, some paid lower, but over time the company started paying less. They diluted the pool of skills. They lowered the qualifications 'cause they needed people. Six hundred dollars a day - pay dramatically dropped, then new companies came in - $500 day and it went from there."

Was it worth the money? "I had spent five months not eating, not sleeping, because you'd have death missions, seeing people get blown up all around me, going on dangerous missions where I could have died," says Carter. "I had so many close calls when we should have been killed, dozens of times. Small arms fire, some RPGs (rocket-propelled grenades), some grenade attacks on the vehicles. It didn't happen daily, but it was dangerous."

"I have even had people tell me that I'm not like they are, because I'm a contractor," said Lloyd. "As if a rocket attack isn't just as stressful for me as it is for them, because I make "so much money.'" As if (post-traumatic stress disorder) is only for soldiers and combat veterans, because I make so much money that I have nothing to be stressed about."

Like many private security contractors working in Iraq and Afghanistan, Carter moved between contracts, sometimes working on CIA tasks and sometimes on DEA contracts. For a while, he provided base security at one of the most sensitive CIA bases in the region. On other contracts, he often had to accompany reconstruction officials to meetings with Iraqi counterparts.

Carter recalls one night where he believed that there was a good chance that he wouldn't go home to his wife again.

"Here I am sweating bullets because I know the next day I have to take someone to a dangerous neighborhood, and it's me and another guy protecting someone and I'm scared to death."

"I had no benefits, no veterans services, no college fund, no disability insurance. There were some limited benefits from the company, but we got no veteran's credit. That was a big downside. We were getting murdered on medical insurance. Couldn't get any life insurance back then," recalls Carter.

There were contractors in the early days who saved up money, put their kids through college, or paid off the mortgage, and came home. It wasn't the kind of job that many people took on thinking they could do it for 10 years. But there was another big drawback once they were home: finding a job to match their skill set wasn't easy.

"I didn't bring home one skill I could use," says Carter, who has been home for three years now but is thinking seriously about going back.

"I still stay in touch with all of my friends who are deployed. Every day they are a part of something that matters. Every day, I sit behind a desk and do nothing. I used to be working along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan doing operations that the military wouldn't do - and now I come home and I have to answer to some boob about what I'm doing. It's such an emotional and mental letdown. I'm literally rotting," says Carter.

But if he went back now, depending on where he went, there could be even more dangers. The U.S. is still negotiating with the Iraqi government about whether U.S. contractors will be granted any diplomatic protections under Iraqi law. It's been a point of contention since Blackwater guards shot and killed 17 Iraqis in a Baghdad traffic circle in 2007. Given the unwelcoming position of the Iraqi government toward U.S. contractors in light of that shooting, it's another risk worth weighing before packing the duffel bag.

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    Everybody needs to relax this company doesnt even throw that type of money around now to their security contractors. My brother works for Academi now and he is only making 70,000 for 344 days over sea's in Afghanistan. His job title is "Sergeant of the Guard" or some shit. So ya people thats it, 70k for 344 days in a shithole country. The days of 150k + in Iraq are over.

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      If his father already works for that company why not ask him? By the time your husband receives the qualifications (EMT-I or P) and experience, we're talking at least a year or maybe 2. And even then he'll be competing against medics with combat experience. I'd definitely tell him to not quit his day job in the hope that he'll be working as a security contractor. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't quit my day job to work as a security contractor these days. The pay is way down and there are no bennies.

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        Ive been to Afghanistan already and ive talked to alot of people. I think its going to turn into a situation where the war slowly fades away, but the SOF community will remain in pockets along with contractors. However in order to be a contractor then, you are going to be competing with a pool of SF, SEALs, Rangers, and so on. Even if you wanted to work as a medic, you got alot of SOCOM medics and even your line medics 68w's and corpmen will land the gigs. The key thing is they all will probably have security clearances too.

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      All I can say is it is not worth the money or risk. 8 years SOAR then another 8 as a PMC. Some of us made incredible money and I was one of those lucky one. Lucky ...... Yah that is a load of crap, Almost 6 years out of the last 8 deployed, take out 6 months after getting clipped and what do I have today ? The money sure as hell has not bought happiness. Two failed relationships and now working on the third. Once you are in it so hard to get out.
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  54. Jay

    "We were making $700 – $750 a day regardless of the contract. Some paid higher, some paid lower, but over time the company started paying less. They diluted the pool of skills. They lowered the qualifications 'cause they needed people. Six hundred dollars a day – pay dramatically dropped, then new companies came in – $500 day and it went from there."

    Hahahaha a COP making mention that they started "diluting the pool"? Am I in the f**king twilight zone here? Hiring COPS to go into Iraq and Afghanistan was biggest mistake these companies made! Nothing in the US law enforcement skill set prepared these guys for work in combat zones. Sorry, but the reason the 'pools were diluted' was YOU.

    February 15, 2012 at 1:47 am | Reply
    • Operator

      I am sure half of you turds that are spitting bullshit about "honor" have never served at all.. Just a bunch of suits sitting behind a computer like you know everthing.. What is funny is that most contractors are FORMER military and a lot are SF guys who have already served and now want to make money for whatever the reason, in the end it's none of your GD business.. Stupid people, it is you that I hate risking my life for!

      May 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Reply
      • Jay

        And you sent this reply to me why? I've BTDT, that's why, from experience, I think this article is a joke. Cops should never be in IQ/AF, let alone accusing Military guys of 'diluting the pool' as it pertains to the skill of contractors.

        May 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
      • kwg

        wish there was a like button for this comment!!!!!!!!!!!

        May 21, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
      • Bill; Ex British Infantry.

        Your risking it for yourself and the money mate. Don't try to kid us.
        You want to do it.......then do it. If not then get out.

        Now imployed in the oil indistry. Big money, benefits and penstion. ;-]

        June 23, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • Circiut

      What you're NOT keeping in mind Jay is that the article doesn't say whether or not this "Cop" as you put it, was former military or not...he may have been before he was a SWAT team member. What you DO need to keep in mind is that one of the biggest "preferences" in the hiring process is former military service weighing heavily towards a remotely combat related military occupational specialty....but not absolutely required. I'll tell you one thing right now; I'd be WAY MORE inclined to have a SWAT member watch my back every day before some of the morons i've worked with that DILUTED the pool just because they went to a military basic training and were ultimately "window washers" in the Army......see where I'm coming from?? I'm not interested, during my next contract, in getting my head blown off because of a prior Army floor sweeper next to me is too busy looking cool in his Oakleys. If you'd ever done it, you'd know what I mean.

      May 12, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Reply
      • Jay

        I'm not speaking hypothetically, I'm speaking from experience. I'm a former Marine (0311) and I've been a contractor for the last 5 years, starting out as a PSD team member and working up to Project Management. I've worked with several Cops (funny enough, they were all either SWAT or had some sort of 'shootout' with a perp, or so they claimed) and they pretty much embodied the term "fish out of water" as applied to Military-style operations or high threat protective security. We had to do a "principal recovery/extraction" and the only casualty we had was a Cop who needed a drip because he had never worked in a desert environment before and wasn't in shape and couldn't make it up the stairs. So, I know I cannot lump them ALL into one basket, but if I were in charge of recruiting I would steer well clear of Cops unless they had previous Military operational experience. Anybody can sit bitch in a sub, but when shit hits the fan, I want a Military combat vet. The Cops I've seen ascend the ladder on state programs weren't usually worth a damn either. Sorry. I've gotten to the point where I have to tell it like it is. They're one of the big reasons the pool got diluted. This guy in the article may have just been a product of getting in at the right time. If he was a SOCOM bloke saying this shit, I could understand. SWAT? Not so much. A lot of these guys were SWAT in Bumfuck, Indiana, as we've often found

        May 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • rohn barnhill

      jay, as someone who has a background in both areas, what exactly in your infantry background makes you better than a cop as psd?...and let me say...i am glad your not the PM on any project ive been on or currently am on, ive worked with good cops over here and bad ones, ive worked with good exmil and bad ones, americans, brits, SA's, aussies, some good some bad...see what im gettin im sure you dont...besafe all

      October 27, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      Spot on Jay I completely agree with you. The Cops screwed it all up. It was constantly the Cops word versus the prior service guys word. If they would have kept the cops out everyone would be still getting 150k/year. These cops showed up and thought they could do what ever they wanted and they did. Usually it would take a SGT Major or SGF class to square them away when they step out of line. The rural cops and sheriffs were the worst! I got tired of dealing with the investigation drama. However it did keep command busy and off of our asses. LOLO

      December 9, 2015 at 6:28 am | Reply
  55. Building for rent

    Power building contractors operate in the building business. They may be responsible for providing electrical power via wires to companies, homes, production facilities along with crops.building contractors

    January 30, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Reply
  56. Prabuddha

    Mercenaries have always been used by empires. Lots of people from Britain hired out to the East India Company and came back rich. There was an expression He came to a rich country a poor man , he left behind a poor country a rich man. Now its Iraq and Iran instead of India. Colonialism is always about profit. The national army is there as a backstop to rescue the contractors when and if they screw up but the cutting edge of colonialism is always the private sector.

    January 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Reply
  57. Kitty

    Over the years of the wars we've paid dearly for corporate mercenaries and "contractors". The cost in dollars isn't the worst part of the price either. The use and toleration of Mercenaries is not compatible with representative democracy. Talk all you want about patriotism and security, but good old IKE hit the nail on the head when he warned the American public about the dangers of this unholy alliance of interests.

    January 2, 2012 at 9:13 am | Reply
  58. donotworry

    What is missing in this article is the fact that taxpayers are paying forthe shift from a govrnment controlled military force to a corporate owned militry force. Just a supplement to our corporate owned Congress, President, Supreme Court. Corporations are people too. Funny how there are so many commie remarks and no corporate oligarchy concerns comming out of the tea party.

    January 2, 2012 at 7:17 am | Reply
  59. SLFD

    Look.....everyone has a point ...But stop the BS..... Everyone knows that the federal government pays for contractors...How do we know check Fedbid.... Respect a man for his choice if he wants to be a contractor great. If you want to stay in the military and serve sounds good to me. Wether you work under contract or not in these hot zones you are STILL HIRED TO GET YOUR JOB DONE as long as YOUR not AGAINST THE REPUBLIC DO YOUR JOB KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN AND COME HOME. There is nothing New here your wasting breath

    January 1, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Reply
    • Stewart

      You respect someone not for making a choice but for the choice they make. And if one chooses to be a mercenary I do not respect that. We have a national military, and that, instead of private mercenary, is where the honorable people go. America is still a nation, not a grubby job fair, a real nation - at least for a while.

      January 2, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Reply
      • Jay

        The bottom line you guys don't seem to realize is this: The Department of State has never employed the Military for protection. That, my friends, would be due to the fact that the DoD and the DoS are two different entities. There are expanded Embassy missions on a scale in Iraq and Afghanistan that the USA has never seen on this scale, hence the need for contractors. They save the USA loads of money on benefits, insurance, retirement over hiring more State Agents.

        Well, there's the facts. How about leaving your emotions out of arguments. Thank you.

        February 15, 2012 at 2:07 am |
      • cmpenny

        How in the hell do you get off thinking that they're mercenaries? You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about, you're misinformed, and you're making an ass out of yourself. Private Security contractors are just that...private security. The do NOT go out looking for fights, they are strictly a defensive tool to guard against insurgent attacks. Whether they are escorting a VIP, or a shipment, or taking care of matters on base, it's on a very professional level that does NOT include "shoot first, ask later"! Next time you want to start running your mouth about a subject, do your homework first! You should at least appreciate that they have it in them to do what you probably don't...and that's go over and take care of business, and before you start criticizing MY credentials...7 year Army Airborne veteran. I deployed twice to Afghanistan, and even a tour in Iraq. I know first hand what these guys do, and I for one appreciate them!

        March 29, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
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      October 12, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Reply
  60. Crocker

    GIVE ME A FRIGGING BREAK.... They now give it a politically correct name of 'security contractor'. They are mercenaries plain and simple who are in it for the DOLLAR. If they were truly patriotic they would stay in the military and serve in that capacity. But the MONEY isn't as good – so they hire out. Boils down to one word. G R E E D.

    December 31, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Reply
    • BK

      Yes we when as S/C for the money. Its the big shots who run the Security Co. that put it all on th wrong track. It the military that wants us there. Talk to a Contractor and hear the truth

      January 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Reply
    • cmpenny

      You're just as bad, read my comment above and shut the hell up!

      March 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
      • A-Bone in AFG

        You should really stop talking about things that you do not fully understand. I am an Army Medic ,currently in Afghanistan, and I can say from experience that the contractors around here are FAR from mercenaries. The name "Mercenary" implies that they actively hunt out and kill people. These men and women are here purely for security (i.e. They guard things). Please, feel free to strap on your best set of combat boots (you'll have to break them in for awhile first, as you've never worn them before), lock and load, and come join us over here so you can see for yourself.

        August 13, 2012 at 6:08 am |
  61. SFMedic

    You are there by choice not by chance. Making the immediate big bucks comes at a cost. You signed a contract, maybe you should have read it and made better choices or remained in the military for a career. BTW, I am retired military, a contractor, and been to Iraq and Afghanistan. We all knew what we were getting into. Stop whinning, no one forced you to go!

    December 30, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Reply
    • BK

      we are there for money But the military wanted us. Yes I when the there for the money because I was paid by the USDOD and we had good medic Yes I done it for my Country. Talk to a real contractor you got the wrong picture

      January 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Reply
  62. Jason

    One day soon, our reckless economic and military ignorance will be called an act of war. Who will come save us from ourselves? Will they say they are defending their strategic interests? What if they say they are protecting the freedoms of humanity and democracy?

    What if sound money and jobs are only possible when we aren't sending $5 billion out of this country every day?

    What if Christianity teaches peace and not preventative wars and aggression?

    What if we save ourselves?
    Ron Paul & Jon Huntsman 2012.

    December 30, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Reply
  63. Richie

    Cry me a effin' river. You guys know that you could re-join the military if you wanted to. And you want to bitch? Please, give me a break.

    December 29, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Reply
    • Virginia

      The time when the contractor is bidnidg on your job and trying to convince you to hire him is the honeymoon period this is when your relationship with the contractor is going to be at its best, most friendly.If the contractor is treating you badly during this time, can you imagine how he's going to treat you when the work on your home starts and he's essentially got you by the family jewels ?Don't bother to try to track down someone who can't be bothered to give you the bid on your job. He's telling you loud and clear that he doesn't want your job and your money. Move on and find someone else.

      October 12, 2012 at 11:13 pm | Reply
  64. James Jones

    I guess that what you get when you want to be a Mercenary and work for
    profit instead of a sense of Patriotism.

    December 29, 2011 at 7:12 am | Reply
    • El Duderino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing)

      I'm a veteran and I can tell you that many people (not all) join the military for the benefits such as the G.I. Bill, and the bonuses. The only reason they don't go into private security is because they don't have the qualifications that PSC's have. Most are either SWAT or are from elite units such as SEAL's, Rangers, SF, Recon, etc. Besides, wouldn't you leave your job for a higher paying job? And since most of these people have served in the military prior to becoming PSC's, I can't help but ask have you served? Have you even been to Iraq or Afghanistan?

      December 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Reply
      • Dusty

        I hate it when military folks pull this "have you ever served" nonsense. Just because someone has never been to Afghanistan or Iraq that means they aren't allowed to express their opinion about what's going on over there? How do you feel about China? Wait, don't answer that because if we follow your logic you aren't allowed to have an opinion unless you've actually been there. smh

        December 30, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
      • James Jones

        As a matter of fact I have served in : AF, Iraq, Bosnia, Haiti, Somalia (and just recently there), Uganda, Oman, UAE, Saudi (just recently), Columbia, Philiipines, Tanzania, etc..... and am still serving Iraq even though "all the Soldiers have left" as a Military Technical Expert with State, so don't get me started on the Private Army that the Embassy is hiring at 3Xs my salary- my question is that if you are such a trash-talker what have you done for the Republic lately - excuse me I have to get my weapon and gear to go do the "work of the Nation" at the bargain-basement non-Contractor rate.

        January 1, 2012 at 7:29 am |
      • El Duderino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing)

        Dusty, my argument with James Jones is not that he shouldn’t have an opinion regarding the issue if he’s never served; my argument is that he’s criticizing PSC’s because he thinks they work exclusively for profit while portraying the typical servicemember as pure and benevolent, which is simplistic and dichotomous. I was explaining that many PSC’s have former military experience and have proven their patriotism, and it is that factor that should be considered when critiquing PSC’s.

        It infuriates me when people who’ve never served in the military or even care about the wars start criticizing PSC’s who have actually volunteered for the military and for war prior to their current employment to a private security company?

        James Jones, I tip my hat to you if what you’re saying is true (possibly not, and you're just another commenter cooking B.S. for a better refutation) about your countless tours and hardships. Bear in mind though that depending on your specific “military technical expertise” there might be a high paying job waiting for you at some private company.

        You have every right to leave the military considering your honorable and longstanding service (again, if what you’re saying is true), but don’t criticize people who leave the military for a private company. If they fulfilled their contract, then they’ve honored their obligation. To leave one line of employment for another that pays more is common, morally neutral, and is a matter of capitalism.

        January 2, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Crocker

      Well said James.

      December 31, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Reply
    • donotworry

      The contractor is a corporation, not this soldier. The corporation will evenally p tem minimum wag and hire them from thr world countries. Paid for by your tax dollars.

      January 2, 2012 at 7:20 am | Reply
    • Jay

      Spoken like a mongoloid that would work for State. Jealous of Military Vets making cash. If you were qualified to work PSD, then you should try it. Probably not qualified.

      February 15, 2012 at 1:52 am | Reply
    • Golden Rule

      @Jay So much for duty, honor, country. It's all about the money these days, be it Goldman Sachs, Halliburton, or Xe. No more "band of brothers" or "leave no man behind" nonsense or public (i.e. GOVERNMENT) memorials and monuments. Just go get yours and forget everyone else. Working a government military job with GI benefits paid for by taxpayers? Get a real job, like working for a corporation (that gets paid for with government taxpayer contracts)! I have no problem with that. Just don't complain when your corporate boss tries to cut costs to increase his profit margin by scr*wing you over on your contract with fine print legalese. You gonna form a union, go on strike and protest like a commie when he does? Those Blackwater contractors burned and hanged on the bridge in Fallujah were under-staffed and under-equipped, to save money of course. One more dead contractor, one less paycheck to pay out, no life insurance to pay out, increase the corporate profit margin, hide behind national security legal immunity laws to nullify any lawsuits.

      Money talks, bullsh*t walks.

      The Department of State (GOVERNMENT) has NEVER employed the military (GOVERNMENT) for protection? Who protected the US Embassy in Saigon when it was breached by Vietcong during the Tet Offensive in 1967? So, the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group is not military (GOVERNMENT)? I didn't know they got privatized. Of course, privatizing our entire military would save loads of money on benefits, insurance, and retirement. Heaven forbid our military troops turn into fat, lazy, overpaid commie union goons. If they do, fire them and outsource their jobs, and hire Chilean ex-special forces who are equally competent and accept lower pay. That's what Erik Prince is doing. It's a smart business model, since every other American corporation (Apple-FoxConn) is already doing it to cut costs.

      Greed is good. It's what Jesus would want.

      March 18, 2012 at 12:42 am | Reply
  65. sparks

    OMG what an egotistical USA bitch/tramp. You are paying rent and she is busting into your room??? WTF I don;t know how you remained so calm especially when she said she was going to call the police and say you raped her......

    well news flash USA your going down in the eyes of the rest of the world so lets see how you manage when you lose your jobs and become homeless yourselves...............

    December 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Reply






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    • Cyrus

      Your pharmacy called. They have a refill for your meds.

      Also, try decaf. Just because you can write bull crap in CAPS, doesn't make it important or even true.

      December 28, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Reply
      • jojothemonkeyboy

        I'm not sure what's crazier, the obvious mental patient that apparently has found his way to our side of the locked door or the Seattle chick thinking she is having an actual conversation that has some kind of meaning with an individual that I can visualize as having 2 squirrels running around in his head. He is beyond meds, he needs a bench in a grassy courtyard that is surrounded not only by a very tall fence with that sharp wire at the top but one that has video monitors and guards to prevent an escape.

        January 1, 2012 at 2:23 am |
    • Steve

      And your ignorant screed has what exactly to do with this story?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Reply
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      December 30, 2011 at 3:29 am | Reply
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