Medal of Honor hero sues contractor
November 29th, 2011
01:29 PM ET

Medal of Honor hero sues contractor

By Charley Keyes

America's newest Medal of Honor recipient has filed a lawsuit against his former employer, defense contractor BAE Systems, alleging the company and his supervisor there punished him for his opposition to a weapons sale to Pakistan and prevented him from finding other work by portraying him as a problem drinker and mentally unstable.

Dakota Meyer, who was awarded the honor in September, objected to the company's sale of high-tech armaments to Pakistan, according to the lawsuit, saying the U.S. weapons sale is "giving to guys who are known to stab us in the back" and "the same people who are killing our guys."

In response, BAE is carefully pushing forward with defending itself in the case while not personally criticizing the Medal of Honor recipient.
"As an organization whose core focus is to support and protect our nation's troops, we are incredibly grateful to Dakota Meyer for his valiant service and bravery above and beyond the call of duty," Brian J. Roehrkasse, a BAE spokesman, told CNN.  "Although we strongly disagree with his claims, which we intend to vigorously defend through the appropriate legal process, we wish him success and good fortune in all his endeavors."

The lawsuit was filed in June in Texas District court and was first reported by the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. It comes amid new tensions between the United States and Pakistan over clashes along Pakistan's border and the killing of two dozen Pakistan military personnel by NATO forces along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Meyer had been working at BAE on thermal optic equipment for snipers and for teams searching for roadside bombs. In his lawsuit he claims that he was never reprimanded or warned about his job performance.  Only after his criticism of the sales to Pakistan, according to the lawsuit, was he subjected to bullying and intimidation.

In his direct comments about providing weapons to Pakistan, Meyer said he had come to BAE to do his part for people still in the war zone.

"I feel that by selling this to Pakistan we are doing nothing but the exact opposite," Meyer said in an e-mail to his supervisor, quoted in the lawsuit.

"We are simply taking the best gear, the best technology on the market to date and giving it to guys that are known to stab us in the back," the e-mail said.

And he suggested that Pakistan was receiving more advanced equipment than American troops. "I think that one of the most disturbing facts to the whole thing is that we are still going forth with the PAS-13 optic and issuing these outdated sub-par optics to our own U.S. troops when we have better optics we can put in their hands right now, but we are willing to sell it to Pakistan," the e-mail said.

President Barack Obama presented the Medal of Honor to Meyer at a White House ceremony September 15, praising the former active duty Marine for saving 36 lives as he braved Taliban fire again and again to rescue both U.S. and Afghanistan forces. As Obama noted, the tales of that rescue "will be told for generations."

"You did your duty, above and beyond, and you kept the faith with the highest traditions of the Marine Corps that you love," Obama said. "Because of your honor, 36 men are alive today. Because of your courage, four fallen American heroes came home."

BAE said it has hired several thousand veterans as employees. Included in those veterans is the supervisor Meyer also names in the lawsuit, whom the company said was also a decorated former Marine sniper like Meyer.  And BAE said it has complied with all federal rules about selling sophisticated defense equipment to Pakistan and other countries.

"The U.S. Department of State, not BAE Systems, makes the decision on what defense-related products can be exported," the company spokesman said.  "In recent years, the U.S. Government has approved the export of defense-related goods from numerous defense companies to Pakistan as part of the United States' bilateral relationship with that country."

The State Department confirmed Tuesday that it had approved in August a license for BAE to export 20 thermal imaging rifle scopes to Pakistan, but only temporarily. “But that was for a sales demonstration. And none of those scopes were sold,” State Department spokesman Mark Toner said at his midday briefing. “They would have had to apply for a separate export license, so I'm not aware that any sale, you know, there was never any pursuit of a sale on those items.”

The spokesman said he did not know if there was any current review of defense exports to Pakistan in light of strained relations with the U.S. “I know that our security assistance program does continue,” Toner said. “You know, it's an important part of our counterterrorism efforts.”

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  1. MalcolmM

    While it may be nice to get behind Sgt Meyer in principle, there are some things that some of you obviously don't know about BAE so I'll share. BAE is a British owned corporation not American – BAE Systems plc (LSE: BA.) is a British multinational defence, security and aerospace company headquartered in London, United Kingdom, that has global interests, particularly in North America through its subsidiary BAE Systems Inc. BAE is among the world's largest military contractors; in 2009 it was the second-largest based on revenues.[3][4] It was formed on 30 November 1999 by the £7.7 billion merger of two British companies, Marconi Electronic Systems (MES), the defence electronics and naval shipbuilding subsidiary of the General Electric Company plc (GEC), and aircraft, munitions and naval systems manufacturer British Aerospace (BAe).

    December 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Reply
  2. Tom C

    Hi .... from a Brit ... who has over the last 60 years ( 30 in the military ) worked closely with the "Yanks" been extremelt grateful for your "Military" muscle and sharing with your resources .Sgt. Meyer is an outstanding human being ( and probaly has all the attributes, good and bad – I'd love to share a beer with him – of ALL human beings) but at the end of the day .... as a Service / Grunt / or as they used to say "Cannon fodder" we all swear alligence to our country – Queen, President or even dictator .... I may well grit my teeth and get pissed seeing some of the reults of my countries "goverment / senate / parliment decisions – but I loyally took an oath to my country – thats it. BAE ( Not just a UK company) and Sgt. Meyer have a contractul / dismissal legal court case -In which I fully support him. Lets not deviate from the problem – if we do we are just adding strength to our common enimies. Take the space my friends to join together – strength comes from leaning on a friend ...... I'm very pleased that you deserved and received that medal. God Bless

    December 6, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Reply
  3. amust

    wonder if they stop selling the weapons to other countries, america will have to start more wars to keep the military inudstrial complex alive, these companies and their eomployees live by selling arms/amunitions/spare parts. be it Pakistan, Israel, Iran or North Koera. all western companies have sold all kinds of weapons to all the countries , friend or foe....cause todays foe are tomorrow friends and vice is like a drama being played all over the world for the big economies of the world over

    November 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Reply
  4. Sam I am

    God bless this man !!! He is completely correct Pakistan is the enemy and for you bleeding harts out there get a weapon and go see for your self !!!

    November 30, 2011 at 6:41 am | Reply
    • al718

      Meyer is definitely a hero and is correct in what he said about selling weapons to Pakis, but sounds like his beef is more with the government that fails to procure the latest gear for our troops and allows BAE which is still a business to sell the latest gear to our so called "friend"

      November 30, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Reply
  5. Byrd

    Semper Fi, Meyer! Take them to the cleaners and expose BAE for the traitors they truly are.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:36 am | Reply
    • kayjulia

      I stand with this man he is only telling the truth. As we all know now telling the truth can be hazardous to your career and health. I wish him well in his law suit. Nobody can say he doesn't have guts!

      November 30, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Reply
  6. FUNR

    How does anyone know Meyer does not have a drinking and mental stability problem? He has been through a lot and something like that would not be out of the ordinary. BAE almost certainly has capable legal counsel and knows what holds up in court. This is not looking good for Meyer. The issue at trial will be whether BAE's accusations are true or not. I'm sure they will have no problem getting any number of employees to testify about Meyer's problematic conduct on the job. It is not looking good for him.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:34 am | Reply
    • Don

      It is only not good for Meyer if BAE can corroborate. If they can't, Meyer will win this.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:38 am | Reply
      • FUNR

        Yep, defamation and malicious interference with employment- so you don't think BAE doesn't already have affidavits from numerous coworkers and supervisors? It sounds like the separation was pretty acrimonious with BAE out for blood. If there was no merit to their accusations they could have and would have done this much more quietly.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:49 am |
    • Randy

      You're just making assumptions about the accusations that BAE is leveling against Mr. Meyers. You don't know a damn thing. Nor do I for that matter. It makes me wonder if you have a hidden agenda.

      November 30, 2011 at 7:31 am | Reply
    • Thor

      Hey FUNR... go F**k yourself. Just because he's been through crap for the likes of you doesn't mean he is automatically "mentally instable" and an alcoholic, or whatever you might dream up of. BAE GAVE HIM THE JOB after significant confidence in his screening for security (which is pretty rigorous for you non military types) so, the onus is ON THEM to PROVE their claims. Pieces of crap like you need to get arrested for no reason just to see what false charges are like. You suck.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:49 am | Reply
    • John3Sobieski

      @ FUNR

      Other online news articles have sources backing Meyer up saying that he's perfectly healthy in terms of mental stability and his use of alcohol. It seems that BAE is not entirely behind the poor actions, but rather an individual named Bobby McCreight. BAE should issue an apology and fire McCreight on grounds of bad conduct.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Reply
  7. Don

    You have to remember BAE is a UK company (that has a working branch office in the USA). I am curious, who eactly in BAE made the decision to sell the optics to PAK.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:28 am | Reply
  8. DOC

    I am a combat Corpsman with Marines and I would trust my life in the hands of Sgt Meyer. Mainly because I know he would trust his life in my hands. Corpsman/Marine bond. I back the man on his intentions due to the fact that 1. he is an honorable recipient of the CMOH 2, because he is a marine and last but not least 3. because he is a true red blooded American. He is right in every aspect. Good on you and I say Dakota Meyers for President!!!!!

    November 30, 2011 at 6:10 am | Reply
    • Pat

      It's not the CMOH, it's the MOH. Congress has nothing to do with it.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Reply
      • AT

        Pat, it is the CMOH. Research is your friend.

        November 30, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
  9. Marine5484

    Senper FI Sgt. Myers you have done the right thing here by showing your concern about selling weapon systems to the Pakis....which I don't think anyone doubts who side they are really on now. I don't know how well the lawsuit will turn out but, I hope this shines some light on what some of these companies are doing.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:07 am | Reply
  10. Denny

    As in earlier eras our Marines are heroes led by civilian jackals

    November 30, 2011 at 5:44 am | Reply
  11. Randy

    Not surprising...US companies have been putting profit before patriotism for quite some time now. Whether it's selling arms and technologies to so-called "allies" or firing American workers and giving their jobs to the Chinese, either way it does serious damage to our country.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:01 am | Reply
    • Tab

      I'm in complete agreement with you Randy! The only concern of a corporation is their bottom line...being patriotic is only important if you can make a buck with it! I've seen this disgusting behavior in corporate dealings often enough...and too often if you ask me.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply
  12. track

    Additionally ...

    If you are seriously interested in this issue.

    Watch film called "Why we Fight"

    It should be a must watch for anyone who votes.

    Just have a barf bag and punching bag handy because you will wanna puke and punch something after learning the truth about "the business of war."

    November 30, 2011 at 4:11 am | Reply
  13. track

    USA has long history of selling all sorts of killing equipment to anyone and everyone, friendly or not.

    Iraq vs Iran
    Taliban vs USSR
    Even just a few months ago to Mexican Cartel ... DEA Operation Fast and Furious

    So what's new?

    Nothing is gonna change anytime soon.

    Hope Dakota gets paid!!!

    November 30, 2011 at 4:07 am | Reply
  14. A - Minneapolis

    The power of the military-industrial complex is frightening.

    November 30, 2011 at 3:48 am | Reply
  15. John Smith

    A significant proportion of Americans are climate change deniers. Climate change deniers are uninformed morons. Therefore, a significant proportion of Americans are uninformed morons.

    November 30, 2011 at 3:09 am | Reply
    • steve

      Jump off a bridge already.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:59 am | Reply
    • heeler

      So, I'm pretty sure this can be considered "Affirming the consequent," but can it also be cosidered an "association fallacy?" Lets use this faulty logic of Mr. John Smith to learn something here.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:14 am | Reply
    • Bo Scott

      You Sir, are correct, the climate is changing, as it has been doing for millions of years. Your logic is as flawed as your irreverance for the men and women who entitle you to "occupy" Wall Street.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:15 am | Reply
    • Bob

      I believe that some Nobel Prize winners question climate change. Are Nobel Prize winners therefore uniformed morons?

      November 30, 2011 at 4:17 am | Reply
      • MarieMcG

        Name one Nobelist who denies climate change. Just one. You can't.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:24 am |
      • Dave in DC

        Dr. Ivar Giaever is one.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:44 am |
    • Denny

      Climate changes....but the morons who attribute it to people are silly dopes who either are getting paid off by Govt grants to say so OR fools believing the dopes who are being paid off.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:31 am | Reply
  16. upset american

    war is the best engine that brings the economy out of a recession.
    it is a sad truth, thats what got the US out of the great depression.

    unfortunately, you need to sell to 2 sides..

    November 30, 2011 at 2:54 am | Reply
    • SSE

      So to get out of our recession we should sell the latest and greatest weapons to our enemy instead of supplying them to our troops?

      November 30, 2011 at 3:35 am | Reply
  17. BillInLA

    The thing that is most painful to read in this company's statements is its claim that the DOD makes these decisions. So often, the way the decisions are made is this: Defense contractor feeds campaign donations to home-state senators and congressmen on the Senate and House Armed Services Committees, who in turn pressure the DOD to approve selling the weapons - and vote the money for it on the basis that the DOD gave that approval. The entire defense contractor system is dirty,dirty,dirty.

    And a lot of military officers take their retirement, then take lucrative jobs for these corrupt, self-serving companies.

    I watched it happen when I worked for two senators on the Senate Armed Services Committee years ago, and I am seeing it again with two military officers I know personally - retire and go to work for the arms sales people.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:40 am | Reply
    • Al


      November 30, 2011 at 4:00 am | Reply
    • the_bman

      You should try again. The DOD and State Department are two different offices.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:07 am | Reply
      • Red ink

        Read it again _bman, and I'm going to want you to write "I will not comment on these boards until I fully read and understand what I've read" 500 times.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:44 am |
    • IceMan

      What the heck are you talking about, the_bman?

      November 30, 2011 at 5:22 am | Reply
    • Denny

      Some of the very same items they are sending to the PAKs are offered to civilians here BUT are VISIBLY and significantly marked as being restricted for export by citizens. I guess citizens don't have a big enough lobby to get their right to export to terror regimes like the PAKs.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:34 am | Reply
  18. michaelak

    Bravo are spot on.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:58 am | Reply
  19. bigfoot

    I dearly love to hear these tales as they reinforce my position that we live in the most corrupt nation on the planet. We aren' Christian. We aren't righteous. We are only about money and we are morally bankrupt.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:50 am | Reply
    • Canucksuck

      Then you need to get out more. While we certainly have our share of corruption, we are far from the most corrupt nation on the planet. You must be canadian.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:26 am | Reply
  20. Charles Queen

    I'm a disabled nam vet,100 percent disabled.Ya I think it's rotten whats happened but I doubt if will get anywhere suing for mocking him.As for interfering with him getting hired by another employer,thats a diferent bal game there and if it's alll documented and all then I'd say he could sue for that

    November 30, 2011 at 1:46 am | Reply
  21. David Scott

    *Salute* In this case protest is truly patriotism.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:27 am | Reply
  22. pakitrash

    sooner or later the pakis will show their true colors.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:21 am | Reply
    • BillInLA

      Have you missed the news the past few years? They already have.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:41 am | Reply
  23. Semper Fi DM

    Wonder where those 20 scopes are now?

    November 30, 2011 at 1:08 am | Reply
    • AgrippaMT

      Oh, rest assured, the Taliban have them now.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:20 am | Reply
  24. salman

    i'm not so sure about pakistanis being traitors. i think what's probably better to say is that there's a lack of security. these weapons end up falling in the wrong hands, but not intentionally. i hope this case goes through.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:07 am | Reply
    • American Patriot

      The Pakistani people aren't traitors, but elements within their government is.

      Elect Musharraf or Pakistan is screwed. Spread the word.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:15 am | Reply
  25. Salvator Giunta

    The Medal of Honor is a worthless piece of scrap metal.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:57 am | Reply
    • Sgt Sanchez

      not as worthless as you are to this world

      November 30, 2011 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • Joel Casto

      Salvator, unless you have received the Medal of Honor, you are not fit to comment about it.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:10 am | Reply
      • Dakota Montana-Washington

        Now for the big question: should Republicans continue to be allowed to breath the planet's oxygen?

        November 30, 2011 at 1:14 am |
      • American Patriot

        SSG Salvator "Sal" Giunta received the Medal of Honor last year.

        This guy isn't really SSG. Giunta. He's just a retarded troll.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:16 am |
    • TeufelHunden

      And I will fight every day of my life to ensure you have the right to say that but just realize that you are truly ignorant.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:04 am | Reply
    • BillInLA

      You are a real piece of trash, using a Medal of Honor winner's name to say that.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:42 am | Reply
    • USAF 4ever

      You created this post to get attention…your family (doubt you have any) must be sadden by your ignorance.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:57 am | Reply
    • Denny

      Nope, but you are a worthless piece of sss................

      November 30, 2011 at 5:35 am | Reply
  26. idontknow

    Thank you Sgt. Meyer! Best of luck to you!!!!

    November 30, 2011 at 12:49 am | Reply
  27. J Kesler

    BAE is the bad guy here. Dakota is calling you out. Turn off your PR machine and stop selling Pakistan high-technology equipment...

    November 30, 2011 at 12:48 am | Reply
  28. Jmarch

    The board of directors of these contracting companies are populated by retired generals who still have a lot of clout in the pentagon. It's one hand washing the other

    November 30, 2011 at 12:48 am | Reply
    • BillInLA


      November 30, 2011 at 2:43 am | Reply
  29. Jmarch

    Anyone blaming Obama or bush misses the point. The military industrial complex roles on independent of the executive branch the pentagon is the fourth branch of government

    November 30, 2011 at 12:45 am | Reply
  30. Jmarch

    Keep In mind taxpayers give Pakistan 2 billion a year to buy weapons. They are expert extortionists

    November 30, 2011 at 12:38 am | Reply
    • LJ

      Yes, but we also are giving Israel $3 billion each year (as of 2007, probably more now), to buy our weapons from us. That's how the military industrial complex works. For some reason we can't afford to give our own troops the best weapons and equipment, but we give other countries lots of money to buy weapons and equipment from our defense contractors in order to boost their profits and make them appear more successful as it's not just the U.S. military that is propping these companies up with their purchases but other countries as well.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:14 am | Reply
      • Tooinformed

        Actually, My Congressman Eric Cantor likes to tell that line of BS to the media. Informed sources will tell you that Isreal uses your hard earned income tax money to purchase weapons from anyone in the world. How many Americans are aware that not only do we give Billions away to Isreal and Pakistan but our intelligent Congressmen and women give billions away to the countries that surround those countries . Why? because we want to be fair when we are giving away Billions of dollars to help U.S. corporations do business with those regimes. Cantor even put Isreals' Billions into the U.S. Defense budget thinking it would be safe from any budget cuts. I'll bet he is rethinking that decision with the automatic cuts looming on the horizon. Dakota Meyer represents the minority of Americans who stand up and tell the truth regardless of how it affects his life or career. Give'em hell Dakota! you earned it!

        November 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  31. Dakota Montana

    Yeah... Dakota Montana. Hannah Montana's brother.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:27 am | Reply
  32. Doc's wife

    Thank you, Dakota Meyer for standing up for our soldiers!

    November 30, 2011 at 12:25 am | Reply
  33. mmi16

    Uncommon valor in both the military and civilian worlds!

    November 30, 2011 at 12:25 am | Reply
  34. the T-shirt

    Sgt Meyer needs to stay in his own lane and the the U.S. government manage political policy and The CEO of BAE manage the companies business policy.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:20 am | Reply
    • Kristina Erin Kaye

      Now let me see ... who would I agree with? A Medal of Honor winner or you? Do you really need to know my answer???

      November 30, 2011 at 12:30 am | Reply
      • Dakota Montana

        Kristina, your statement is a sophism. Judge an argument on merit, not on superficial considerations.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:37 am |
    • Chris Counselman

      The welfare of his fellow Marines and the rest of our military is most certainly in his lane. Fighting a wrong wherever and however it occurs is the epitome of honor, courage and commitment. Simper Fi!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Reply
      • Dakota Montana

        It's "semper", you moronic American.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:47 am |
      • Chris Counselman

        Smile, you got me.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    • USA JOHN

      so the CEO of BAE can get richer with the blood of americans, he is selling the wepons that kill our boys, wake up, or are a stock holder. our government is becomming so corrupt.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:43 am | Reply
  35. Scout

    Semper Fi! Keep the Faith. These are high-end, sophisticated scopes being sold. Here's a snippet of the type of hardware that he was offended would be sold to the Pakistani military -,

    November 30, 2011 at 12:15 am | Reply
    • Richard Larson

      When will the Pentagon understand that anything sold to most any Muslim country will be turned against our men and women who serve in the military. Someone has really screwed up in this case. Screwed up not only in terminating a principled employee who made his reservations known when he discovered the ultimate user of the devices. Screwed up when some fool in the State Department certified the Pakistani Army to be trustworthy enough to be sold this technology and trained to use and repair the devices. Screwed up when the Pentagon, knowingly continued to sell such technology to a user as unstable as the Pak Army. We have known from decades of experience that any such sales would end up being used against us. We know the Paks will lie in our faces to obtain these devices and that once they get a few they will contrive to reverse engineer the devices and manufacture their own and use them, or supply them to our enemies. Fully 80% of the enlisted men in the Pak Army are either active in Al Qaeda or support it's objectives. About 40% of the officer corps below the rank of Colonel are also involved. The only Officers who currently are not in either camp are those in control of the nuclear weapons systems and thankfully so. The US Government has made serious mistakes in trusting Pakistan with anything military.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:36 am | Reply
      • amateur flunky politician

        You go Sgt. Meyer! There are also college student soldiers out here on the front lines who are working for a low wage and starvation pay dealing with the same politics,man! Force Corporate America to enforce intellectual property laws on college work that is mainly going to retard politicians in DC and making the school's coffers and the professors richer! Down side: the politicians can't carry out the work because most of them are too fucking stupid!

        November 30, 2011 at 1:14 am |
  36. James Andrews

    Semper fi, Dakota! A man of honor! You do your country proud!

    November 29, 2011 at 11:53 pm | Reply
  37. Scrappy Bill

    "It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare."

    Happy birthday Mark Twain

    November 29, 2011 at 11:44 pm | Reply
  38. Brett

    This type of decision is typical of global corporations. Every decision is based on the margin for this quarter. The jar head had the guts to stand up call BS. I especially love this line... "The U.S. Department of State, not BAE Systems, makes the decision on what defense-related products can be exported.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Reply
    • Texrat the Crypticum Keeper

      Agreed, typical "weasel words".

      November 30, 2011 at 12:11 am | Reply
    • Brian

      What is it exactly that you love about that line, Brett? It's true. Defense Contractors are the most highly regulated corporations in the world. The U.S. Government carefully determines exactly what technology is permitted to be sold abroad and exactly what is not. In fact, frequently defense articles are sold first to the U.S. Government, and THEN to the foreign government (by the U.S. Government itself). If Mr. Meyer felt that the U.S. Government was permitting the sale of better technology to Pakistan than it was purchasing for its own troops, he should have taken it up with them. Otherwise what do you expect a corporation to do, sacrifice its R&D investment not to do something specifically authorized by the U.S. Government? Please.

      God bless our troops and may the Government give them the tools they need to do their jobs and return home safely.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:28 am | Reply
  39. Gar Swaffar

    Never, never, ever bet against a Marine being willing to tell the truth when his Nations safety and the safety of his fellow soldiers is at stake. You will lose every time if you do.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Reply
  40. John N Florida

    I just wonder how close a look their Chinese friends got to those scopes while in-country? Want to lay odds our kids will see 'backwards engineered' scopes in the next 3 months.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:25 pm | Reply
  41. sr

    I like Sgt. Meyer's courage on both fronts, indeed, let's put him in the White House! He's got more sense than 90% of our politicians and lawyers (liars).

    November 29, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Reply
  42. Jay in Florida

    Now, who do you believe? A medal of honor recipient US Marine who speaks on behalf of his comrades out there on the field.... or a company in the business of selling weapons to the best buyer, even if that best buyer is intent on using those weapons against us? My money is on the US Marine.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:14 pm | Reply
  43. Arlen Miller

    At a time when our president and other politicians tend to apologize for our
    country's prior actions, here's a refresher on how some of our former
    patriots handled negative comments about our country.

    JFK'S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when
    DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaulle said he wanted all US
    military out of France as soon as possible.

    Rusk responded, "Does that include those who are buried here?"

    DeGaulle did not respond.

    You could have heard a pin drop.

    When in England, at a fairly large conference,Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example
    of empire building by George Bush.

    He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
    beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for
    in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

    You could have heard a pin drop.

    There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
    carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?"

    A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three
    hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are
    nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?"
    You could have heard a pin drop.

    A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included
    Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French
    Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
    group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
    Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a
    French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many
    languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked,"Why is it that
    we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than
    speaking French?"

    Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
    Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't
    have to speak German."
    You could have heard a pin drop.



    Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
    At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport
    in his carry on.

    "You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked

    Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.

    "Then you should know enough to have your passport ready."

    The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."

    "Impossible.. Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France !"

    The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he
    quietly explained, "Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day
    in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen
    to show a passport to."

    You could have heard a pin drop.


    If you are proud to be an American, pass this on! If not, delete it.

    I am proud to be of this land, AMERICA

    November 29, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Reply
    • so

      So I am guessing this guy has a beef with France. Big deal. What does it have to do with the article?

      November 30, 2011 at 12:00 am | Reply
    • MJ

      To Arlen,

      For the record, I think what Dakota Meyer is doing is gutsy and admirable. I wish him the best. I served my country as a US naval officer for over 6 six years and I am as proud of an American as anyone else... especially those who actually stepped up the plate and served for their country (have you Arlen?)....but your little self-righteous write-up totally biased against the French for whatever twisted views you might have of them, reeks of ignorance. Comments like yours (whether directed against the French or any other of our friggin' Allies) are inflammatory and unnecessary. You probably have never been to Europe, let alone what makes you so qualified to judge?

      November 30, 2011 at 12:19 am | Reply
      • Lambonator

        No one cared.

        And you could have heard a pin drop.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:43 am |
    • herpaderp

      Decent enough popcorn Patriotism that Americans pass off as real love of country. Too bad about the repeated ending line. "You could here a pin drop." Definitely made every anecdote that much more painful to absorb.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:48 am | Reply
    • Bob

      You understand that those are ALL urban legends, right?

      November 30, 2011 at 12:59 am | Reply
      • Canucksuck

        Ahhhh....looks like the cowardly canadians have finally figured out how to use computers.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:10 am |
    • EdNv

      First off a Boeing engineer wouldn't know anything about Aircraft Carriers. Second - no nuclear boat has the means to supply power to shore facilities except in very small amounts - Third there are NOT 3 hospitals on board, there a scattered trama centers that are meant to handle AT MOST a few dozen trauma victims at once. Fourth guess what, the cafeterias - they are meant to supply the needs of the ships crew and have little extra capacity... So yes Bush was well intentioned but still an idiot, and you - just ignorant i recon.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:31 am | Reply
  44. Russ

    Thank you Dakota. These companies would sell their sisters to the enemy to make a buck. Nobody should get our top line equipment. Not even allies like Britain and Australia. Only when we have better equipment should very select allies be given limited access. Pakistan never qualified in my opinion. I also don't like sharing it with the Saudis.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Reply
  45. WildMontana

    This just prooves that Dakota Meyer is a true American hero.

    November 29, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Reply
    • Greg

      Defense Contracting Companies have NO moral responsibility and exist ony to take the taxpayer for every cent we have.

      November 29, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Reply
  46. Lady V

    Thank you Dakota...thank you for your courage and for giving others the strength to stand up for what they believe in and what they know to be right.

    November 29, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Reply
  47. dave moss

    “But that was for a sales demonstration. And none of those scopes were sold,” State Department spokesman Mark Toner said at his midday briefing. “They would have had to apply for a separate export license, so I'm not aware that any sale, you know, there was never any pursuit of a sale on those items.”

    So, a sales demonstration was not a pursuit of a sale? Really?

    November 29, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Reply
  48. MartyGRMI

    Somebody that believes in something.

    November 29, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Reply
    • Jon

      BAE and most military contracts are corporate welfare parasites. They can't make a profit in a real capitalistic way so they stick the bill to the American tax payers. Useless thugs.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Reply
  49. sybaris

    This kind of thing happens a lot. Mostly because the buyers and sellers within DoD and the defense industry have never been end users and don't care.

    November 29, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Reply
  50. sidneyhop

    Our corporate police state is sooo pathetically corrupt!!! Backlash is coming and its coming soon!!!]

    November 29, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Reply
  51. Chris

    Meyer is the man. I don't know why we're still helping Pakistan myself considering they were harboring the guy we were supposedly looking for for ten years. Or maybe that's just what the defense contractors wanted you to think.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:59 pm | Reply
  52. Earl

    Will someone please elect this guy president

    November 29, 2011 at 9:56 pm | Reply
    • Thor

      Out of all of those veterans, HE is the only one actually complying with the law. How shameful.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:04 am | Reply
  53. Tony

    Two words: SEMPER FI

    November 29, 2011 at 9:56 pm | Reply
  54. Chris N.

    How dare this "hero" stand up against unregulated capitalism, the core principle on which this country lives. Someone get this man a tent, because he's headed to an "occupy" encampment near you.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:51 pm | Reply
    • ElisabethinCA

      You’re absolutely right! American companies should sell whatever they want to whomever they want, screw our men and women in uniform. Who cares if American companies outfit other countries w/ better weapons and technology then our own troops? American companies don’t have to be moral, as long as the CEO gets a new vacation house and a 100 million bonus, who cares about the men and women protecting all of us! How dare this guy want to protect his brothers and sisters in arms. Who does he think he is? Actually I will tell you…a REAL, TRUE American HERO! And you? Not so much.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Reply
      • straightShot

        BAE is not an American company.

        November 29, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
  55. Ronald Mcloughlin

    No one is listening from above and I dont mean God. The most honorable Marine deserves to be listened to. Yet I can give him an earlier example when we showed the majahadeen how to shoot down the Soviet helicopters in the 1980 war that wreaked havoc on the Soviets so that they left Afghanistan & eventually the foolish Americans wud charge up another San Juan Hill. Congratulations to a Marine not only as brave as a war hero but as a civilian hero too.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm | Reply
  56. Concerned

    What everyone fails to realize is that BAE systems is not an American company. All the Brits are out of Afghanistan...what do they care if they kill our kids?

    November 29, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Reply
    • Concerned

      Sorry i was a biit ambiguous is a large Multinational Defense contractor based in the UK (AKA Great Britain).

      November 29, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Reply
    • Joe Blow

      You ignorant and foolish bastard!

      An abject apology for your inanely stupid remark that the UK is out of Afghanistan will be accepted on behalf of the following UK servicemen who made the ultimate sacrifice in the last two weeks alone:

      Rifleman Sheldon Lee Jordan Steel, from 5th Battalion The Rifles, was killed in an explosion while taking part in a foot patrol in the Babaji area of Lashkar Gah district, in the Nahr-e Saraj (South) area of operations, in central Helmand, on 27 November 2011.

      Private Thomas Christopher Lake, from 1st Battalion The Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, was killed by an improvised explosive device in the Jamal Kowi area of the Nahr-e Saraj district of central Helmand on Sunday, 20 November 2011.

      Lieutenant David Boyce and Lance Corporal Richard Scanlon, from 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards, were killed when their armoured vehicle struck an improvised explosive device while on patrol in the Yakchal region of the Nahr-e Saraj district of central Helmand on Thursday, 17 November 2011.

      Lance Corporal Peter Eustace of 2nd Battalion The Rifles, attached to 1st Battalion The Yorkshire Regiment as part of Combined Force Nahr-e Saraj (North), was killed while conducting a joint patrol with his Company and the Afghan National Army by an improvised explosive device on Wednesday, 16 November 2011.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Reply
      • bob sadler

        Clearly ignorance is bliss or fodder for the uninspiring opinions of pinheaded cretins. Thank you for the ultimate sacrifice your countrymen have also made in the war to stamp out terrorism. Sgt Meye's complaints may be valid, but without the resources of companies such as Lockheed-Martin, BAE, Northrup-Grumman, IBM, United Technologies, and others, including some foreign companies, our defense capabilities would still be in the relative stone age. I'm not for selling our technologies to back-stabbing Pakistanis. Let's eliminate the problem, not the companies.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:37 am |
      • Thor

        They shall live forever!

        November 30, 2011 at 6:07 am |
  57. BigGuy08

    Dakota Meyer you are a true American Hero! Sir, you are an example for all of us to follow. Oh if the youth of this nation would stop idolizing athletes and performers and see people just like you for what you truly are. You make me be proud to be an American! Thank you for your courage and conviction.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Reply
  58. Paul

    I don't claim to know much about this story, but this former soldier has always seemed a bit off to me...

    November 29, 2011 at 9:20 pm | Reply
    • Scot

      Oh you know him well ? Or are you a shill for those munitions companies ?

      November 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Reply
    • Austin

      He's a Marine, not a former soldier. So you admit that don't know the story very well, and you obviously know nothing about Sgt Meyer–but you think you know enough to say that he's "a little off"?

      Thanks for your worthless opinion, I guess.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Reply
      • HK

        Well said Austin!

        November 29, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    • Jack

      Correction. Marine. Now stop commenting please.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Reply
    • Stan

      My company sells equipment to the armed forces and police as well. We do not do business with any country or company that does not have some kind of transparency (judges, journalists, inspector general, etc). BAE will bribe ( or cheat to do business with anyone they can. They beat us in contracts all the time, but at least I have a clear conscious. If it feels wrong it probably is, kudos to all the whistleblowers.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Reply
      • Ronald Mcloughlin

        The truth is that this country doesn;t deserve the heroes it gets. I just got through watching the Choctaw code talkers from WW I no less. We all know abt the code talkers in WW II and how much devotion these "savage Indians" (re-read the Declaration of Independence) helped its "conquerors." And then there is the heroic efforts of our blacks until segregation was finally eliminated in 1949 from the armed services just in time for the Korean War (1950-52). Our citizens are so noble; its leaders, ignoble, disgraceful and undeserving of such loyalty.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • JOE


      November 29, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Reply
    • Charlie K

      No one deserves more respect than recipient of Medal of Honor. Don't question his honor. He has earned it.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Reply
  59. Jan

    Is there another award we can give Myer for having the courage to speak out against this country's abominable practice of giving weapons to a country to use against us?

    November 29, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Reply
    • Thor

      How do we get him to run for president?

      November 30, 2011 at 6:08 am | Reply
  60. semper fi

    come to think about it maybe we ought to vote myers and seal team 6 for President. maybe he/they could clean our
    goverment up (i wish). most Republicans & democrats( obama) as far as iam concerend are mostly just out for them
    selfs. could we do worse?? how about we wright him in????????????

    November 29, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Reply
    • BillK

      How about you take a formally instructed class, in any subject, please.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Reply
  61. TomG

    With all due respect to SGT Meyer, I think our troops should know that the banks and the defense contractors play both sides of every conflict and the valiant men that go there thinking they are fighting for freedom are really fighting for oil and money. General Smedley Butler, the most decorated Marine that ever lived said that war is a racket and the most profitable business in the world.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Reply
    • wiessej

      The article focuses too much on suggesting that Dakota Meyer felt the transaction was improper. His lawsuit isn't about that. His lawsuit is about his claim that BAE "punished him for his opposition to a weapons sale to Pakistan and prevented him from finding other work by portraying him as a problem drinker and mentally unstable." In other words, he is claiming the either libeled him or slandered him or both, because he sent an email opposing a sale. Whether he was correct about the sale or transfer or demonstration is irrelevant. If BAE was wrong in their actions concerning Meyer (not Pakistan) THAT is the issue.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:10 pm | Reply
    • major e.c.w.


      November 29, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Reply
    • Phil

      Support H.R 1148 The STOCK Act and maybe we can put a stop to this. I heard Ford built tanks for Germany in WWII, among other companies. Never stops. May H.R. 1148 will help.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:17 pm | Reply
    • onceamarine

      Chesty Puller is the most decorated Marine. General Butler received more MoH's.

      November 29, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Reply
    • Thor

      Since you know so much about why we (as members of a coalition) are in this war, perhaps your wisdom can generate to this question: What would happen if all human consumption of oil and natural gas stopped right now, today, this instant? I am sure you know the answer to this since you are such a purist, that you consume nothing that has been touched by fossil fuel!

      November 30, 2011 at 6:12 am | Reply
  62. RDriftwood

    The US military has developed software that allows it to secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations (like CNN) and spread propaganda. Search "US Sock-puppet program". A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), to develop what is described as an "online persona management service" that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.

    November 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Reply
    • Arty0848

      So...What's your point?

      November 29, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Reply
      • RDriftwood

        It explains all the derogatory comments found on this site that are directed at Dakota Meyer.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • ILoveAlexJones4Evar!!!1!

      dont worry a tinfoil hat will prutect u

      November 29, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Reply
      • RDriftwood

        Do an internet search for "US Sock-puppet program".

        November 29, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • Thor

      All the more opportunity for me to respond to their hysteromony!

      November 30, 2011 at 6:15 am | Reply
  63. m

    If one learns one thing in a lifetime that is money speaks loudly in Washington, D.C. These companies have no allegiance to anything other than making a profit. Our government does a terrible disservice to the American people in permitting these kinds of sales.

    Vote for RON PAUL and stop the insanity.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm | Reply
    • sqeptiq

      The Republicans will NEVER nominate him so the rest of the country won't get a chance to vote for him.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Reply
      • Jack

        Really? He is getting my vote!

        November 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • archimedes109

      He can have my vote

      November 29, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Reply
      • HK

        My vote too.

        November 29, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • Thor

      Are you kidding? Ron Paul? That guy is hysterical! No ... I mean it: his hysterics are insane!

      November 30, 2011 at 6:16 am | Reply
  64. Arty0848

    Finally, someone who has peoples attention, has drawn out what's wrong with this country. BAE is just a symptom of the larger problem with the greed of the people who run corporations, and our country. You gotta give the guy some credit for having some principals and standing up for what he believes in....and what's right. That flowery response by some BAE public affairs puppet is indicative that the company is covering its collective ARSE. Probably won't amount to much in the end, but at least he is calling them out. Give'em another medal for having honor and integrity. Could certainly use more of that in this country....rare commodity these days

    November 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm | Reply
    • Thor

      It would be really cool if he could get enough money out of them to run for president...... too bad he is so young.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:18 am | Reply
  65. Levi Eckermann

    All this over 20 scopes? You can't compare selling scopes to the Pakis and equipping the US forces. We have thousands to equip. We're just gonna give it to 20 guys? Relax and smarten up. Being a war hero doesn't mean you have an idea of what you're talking about because you're apparently clueless!

    November 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Reply
    • Arty0848

      Levi, What about the principal of the matter? Whether it's 20 scopes or 20,000. The guys right, we have a major reason to question the loyalties of the Pakistani's. The sniper on the battlefield is one of the most dangerous weapons out there aside from the IED. How many dead servicemen will we have to sacrifice to ensure those scopes are taken back off the battlefield? Let me guess, you've never had the business end of an enemy weapon pointed at you? Now imagine it with device that gives the enemy an advantage. Come'on Man

      November 29, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Reply
      • JOH

        Arty, that's not true at all. Mortars and artillery are far more dangerous than IED's or snipers combined. At the same time, it's a bit of both ways. Meyer's deserves kudos because he's speaking out against a powerful company that has slandered his name. But honestly, who knows? Even war heroes can be alcoholic... easily. Let's just wait and see what happens. Despite the fact of how many different ways selling weapons/parts to the Pakistani is wrong, 20 scopes is nothing to be worried about. Sniper is always hated but it's not impossible to dodge if you are sprinting. You can also tell from which direction the shot was fired depending on the sound of the shot. Also, let's say hypothetically there is war between Pakistan and the US, the US drones can easily spot out a sniper in action in a heartbeat.

        All in all though, this guy is a hero who's fighting for his rights. Nothing more. He's not doing this because he's patriotic or wants to make America proud. He's protecting himself and fighting for his rights. But people got to understand, he's not a god or deity. He's a human being like us. He can murder, rape or steal. He can easily become addicted to alcohol, hard drugs, pills, morphine. Don't be all "HE MAKES ME PROUD TO BE AMERICAN!!!" then three years later this guy gets caught for raping and mutilating little girls in Afghanistan. Wait to hear all the facts people.

        November 29, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • momo0828

      Hello Levi;
      I hope for your sake that you have no children in the Afghanistan Theater who may be harmed by the enemy using one of the 20 scopes you think are insignificant. But then again for you that would poetic justice.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:21 pm | Reply
      • JOH

        But for the uncountable thousand others who ARE fighting and get shot by snipers or weapons WE sold to them, that doesn't matter? If you got something stupid to say like this, don't say it at all. C'mon. We're supposed to be on the same side. He's presenting an opinion he has that he thinks is no big deal for 20 scopes. In some ways I agree with his opinion. In many ways, I also disagree. I thought our country is supposed to advocate for freedom and liberty. Even if it's a stupid opinion or outright misspoken, we fight for freedom for all. It's a shame that Americans themselves are distorting the definition of what it means to be American.

        November 29, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
    • Jason the Saj

      Let's see:

      1. Medal of Honor award recipient – by the way, it's pretty darn hard to get one of those. My Great-Uncle repeatedly ran behind enemy lines in WWII to bring ammo to his platoon and keep them alive. Doing that three or four times earned him a Bronze Star (and a casket).

      2. Bravery not just on the field. He spoke up regarding what he saw as wrong. And a policy that endangered his fellow soldiers. (Continual bravery demonstrated.)

      3. 20 thermal optic biggie, right? But put those in the hands of enemy snipers and that's probably enough to cost us the lives of 200 American soldiers.

      4. Pakistan has demonstrated it is NOT our friend. The proof is in the pudding. And that showed that they were repeatedly protecting Osama bin Laden. In fact, the individual who tipped off the American forces about OBL was in fact jailed by Pakistan. If they were our friends, or even just positive acquaintances, then they'd have cheered him or given him a medal. So no, basic training fine. Weapons and gears beyond that which our own soldiers have. NO PLEASE

      5. Suppression and abuse of whistle blowers. Fair the norm in government. The corruption is so disgusting. The irony is the left hate GWB & Tea Party, but loves Obama. The right hates Obama and OWS. Try to find a difference in the policies of GWM & Big O. Nada....

      Ironically, while there are different view points and different ideas of solutions. Both the Tea Party and OWS movements have been speaking out against the banks, government corruption, and cronyism.

      Somehow we've allowed the media to make us believe there's a difference between Bush & Obama. While at the same time, allowed the media to convince us that the Tea Party & OWS movements are lightyears apart. When they in fact share a tremendous amount of common ground.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:46 pm | Reply
    • straightShot

      It's not about selling 20 scopes. You need to see the big picture.

      Put 20 state-of-the-art scopes in the hands of someone who shouldn't have them, and potential adversaries from various countries then reverse-engineer our technology. Bleeding edge technology that was supposed to give us an edge for 5-7 years on the battlefield is then useless. Overmatch capability disappears.

      November 29, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Reply
      • Thor

        Precisely..... 19 will make it to the field.... 1 to the shop.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:22 am |
    • Thor

      Twenty scopes..... hmmm... have any of you reading ever been to the US Army sniper school? Do you read the news and military history? ..... a few years ago.....

      November 30, 2011 at 6:21 am | Reply
  66. bbstacker7072

    Give that man another medal and throw BAE to the dogs. I honestly don't know how people sleep at night. Why would you want to sell high tech weapons to those clowns, except for the money. Of course, our government is absolutely no better. When is all of this going to stop?

    November 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Reply
    • John D

      Well, if you disarmed the Pakistani government, isn't there a good chance that it might fall to Taliban/Al Qaeda types?

      The government needs to be able to defend itself from the extremists in the country–of which there are demonstrably quite a few.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:58 pm | Reply
      • sambo

        maybe so; but never better equipment than our own boys have.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
      • it is sad

        You are assuming that they are not already in the hands of Taliban/Al Qaeda types. This is the government that hid the number 1 terrorist and is probably activily hiding the others. The only reason we cooperate with them is because of their nukes.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
  67. Alive and well in Texas

    O-BAM-Ass is scum

    November 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Reply
    • RDriftwood

      What does that make you? A scum bucket?

      November 29, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Reply
    • Anon

      Didn't we sell Texas back to Mexico?

      November 29, 2011 at 9:11 pm | Reply
  68. Daddy Warbucks

    BAE sucks the blood out of every boot on the ground. F' em and the whore they rode in on.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Reply
  69. Ken in NC

    When ever I am faced with the choice of standing behind the word of a weapons mfg. or any other company that sells weapons to other countries or standing with a Medal of Honor Recipient, I'm standing with the Medal Recipient. This person has more than proven his love for his country while the company in question is loyal only to it's shareholders.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Reply
    • John D

      In fairness, it should be borne in mind that the directors of corporations have a legal duty to act only in the best interests of the company (i.e. the shareholders).
      It's not really fair to BLAME them for that.

      That said, I think there's a lot to be said for the position that engaging in a legal battle with a former employee who was recently honored as a national hero might not be in the "best interests" of the shareholders.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:46 pm | Reply
      • bbstacker7072

        So, in fairness to the stock holders needless American lives can be shed. Man, you're worse than they are. You are exactly the type of person who is ruining this country.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
      • John D

        Well, there are good reasons for that doctrine that I no longer have time to get into. Gotta go!

        Full disclosure, though: I'm Canadian!

        November 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
      • Thor

        Not true, John D. When the interests of the company are in conflict with American military interests, especially during a time of war, they must be "...advertised, analyzed, and cross-educated to everyone, so that everyone can learn from them." (Adm Hal Gehman, Chairman, columbia Accident Investigation Board). After the interest is understood, and the risk is determined to be harmful to American military efforts, it becomes treason, or, in the event of a foreign controlled interest, an act of war.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:32 am |
      • John D

        There's no indication, again, that the sale was illegal.
        Pakistan is classed by the United States government as a "Major Non-NATO Ally" (this has been the case since the 1940s, so the relationship is not a uniquely Democratic or Republican policy–both parties adhere to it).

        It would be strange if it was illegal to sell weaponry to a major military ally.

        In any case, arms dealing is a highly regulated industry.
        All of these sales are scrutinized by the government.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
      • John D

        My mistake; it was George W. Bush who named Pakistan a "Major Non-NATO Ally".

        November 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
  70. Ex-Jarhead

    IMO, every dollar and weapon we give Pakistan will result in the bloodshed of American troops and innocent civilians. It's a deadly diplomatic game we're playing, this giving an untrustworthy nation billions just for the sake of having a presence in that country. And if we are giving Pakistan better military equipment than we issue to our own troops, heads need to roll. I don't know the details of Sgt. Meyer's employment termination, but I'll take his word over that of a profit-seeking defense contractor. He's earned that kind of trust.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Reply
    • John D

      Well, it can't be EVERY dollar.
      Keep in mind that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan have been fighting Islamic extremist terrorists for far longer than the United States has.

      While its continued relevance following the Arab Spring is kind of an open question, Al Qaeda was never a great supporter of the Pakistani government.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Reply
  71. jake

    Anyone who watches movies or reads books should know you just don't pick any kind of a fight with a medal of honor recipient.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm | Reply
    • John D

      Well, on the one hand, given the ATROCIOUS press they'll get for this, it's surprising the company's allowed things to come even this far.

      On the other hand, they're operating in a highly regulated market, and their only customers are governments. Frankly, I doubt those customers care all that much about what is, after all, merely a contractual dispute between the company and a former employee.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Reply
      • Thor

        Actually, John D, as stated in this article, it does not hint of contractual violation. The fact that he made a report to his supervisor about what he felt was an illegal act, and that it appears that the company agents took reprisals against him, that violates a federal law, originating under the "Whistleblowers Act".

        November 30, 2011 at 6:36 am |
  72. Paul Erickson

    I agree with this patriot. Our government lets big business doe what they want. Obama is too spineless to step in for a MEDAL OF HONOR recipient and investigate his allegations. We need to tell Pakistan to shove it.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:37 pm | Reply
    • John D

      You're aware that the United States has three branches of government, right?

      Sgt. Meyer has filed an action in a District Court in Texas. Obama cannot direct the proceedings or findings of that court, because the judical power of the United States is vested in the courts, not in the president.

      Furthermore, Meyer is not alleging that the SALE would have been/was illegal.
      He opposed the sale on political, not legal grounds.
      What he's alleging is that the company wrongfully FIRED him for expressing his opinion, and that it made additional defamatory claims about him that have hampered his ability to find other employment (given that he's a Medal of Honor winner, I think that claim's a bit of a stretch, but it'll be for the Court to address, not a bunch of CNN posters).

      November 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Reply
      • Sean Linehan

        The lawsuit was filed in June, which is prior to Sgt Meyer being awarded the Medal of Honor.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
      • clr

        You are aware that obummer is the Commander in Chief, and The President – who has at his beck in call the STATE DEPT who can easily suppress the export and sale of arms to Pakistan.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:54 pm |
      • John D

        Would a sale of weapons to Pakistan be illegal? Was the company trying to make the sale in secret?
        I haven't read that anywhere.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
      • Arty0848

        I guess you don't fully understand the authority and respect that comes with a Medal of Honor, not to mention the laws they may have broken. Someone from the LEGISLATIVE side of the house can certainly investigate the situation. Better than them spending their time and our $$ chasing down baseball players who took some steroids. I believe the Medal of Honor awardy has the right of way here.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:15 pm |
      • Thor

        John D. Ever hear of the phrase: " ....can't see the forest for the trees..." ? Sure you have the ability to paint a clear picture of each of the details (the trees); but, you are failing to put it all together to see the big picture (the forest). Specifically, yes, all the legal details are true as you have stated, but, the original email to the supervisor was stating something much greater, which, if analyzed from anothe perspective (perhaps the marine on the ground who has been on the receiving end of advanced weaponry?) ; that perspective shows that individuals who are not motivated by US military success might be providing aid to the enemy. In Pakistans case, it is recognized by a head of the Senate Intelligence Committee that Pakistan is a chick under our wing only due to its nuclear weapons. Even then, Pakistan has knowingly harbored a primary military target for years. The marine is indicating that he has seen something and wants clear and common sense action on that. He probably, if I know marines, could care less about getting any benefit from BAE if and only if they would behave.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:45 am |
    • CAL USA

      Only a confirmed right wing ideolog could spin this story into an Obama criticism. Sure, he's totally spineless. That would explain why Bin Laden and all of his close associates are now looking for all those virgins they thought they were entitled to. Of course, there's also the puzzle of why anyone in their right minds would think they can intimidate a guy with the kind of balls Dakota Meyer has demonstrated.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Reply
      • Paul Erickson

        Can't believe ANYONE would believe that OBAMA was responsible for the death of Bin Laden. That plan was in effect LONG before the Obamass was in office. Do you have ANY idea what the military machine would have done to him if he tried to stop it?! Please get your head out of your A and look around. THINK!

        November 29, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
  73. nijode

    BAE is a company from the United Kingdom. They could move their plant to China!

    November 29, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Reply
    • Thor

      The United Kingdom has a very long arm. It is capable of smacking the fly called BAE very soundly from any part of the globe. The United Kingdom and the United States are very very vested in the principles that this marine is demonstrating. Neither would want a negative outcry over their inaction on this.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:48 am | Reply
  74. Ruby Gumshoe

    BAE had better be walking on eggs. If Sgt Meyer can convince a jury that BAE falsely portrayed him to potential employers as a problem drinker and mentally unstable, their execs are going to be mowing his lawn for the rest of their lives!

    November 29, 2011 at 8:31 pm | Reply
    • John D

      There's no indication in the article that this will be a jury trial if things get that far.

      The parties have more than likely agreed to waive their right to a jury trial, actually. That's very, very common in employment contracts.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Reply
      • clr

        Not if one of the parties is far more interested in making a statement than in $$. This Medal of Honor recipient wants the arming of our enemies to stop as it is killing our troops and making it easier for terrorists to continue. He is far more interested in stopping that – and a VERY PUBLIC trial that brings all of this out in the light, and gains the public interest against the company and our sleazy Govt is far more reward to him than the bucks he may or may not get.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
      • John D

        Pakistan is actually an ally, not an enemy.

        They've been fighting the terrorists even longer than we have–it's even more a self-preservation issue there than it is on our side of the pond.

        November 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
      • Thor

        John D.... (sigh) .... the issue is not contractual, it is a violation of the Federal Whistleblowers Act! That is a LAW VIOLATION...! :/

        November 30, 2011 at 6:50 am |
      • John D

        There's not even a hint in the article that Sgt. Meyer is relying on whistleblower's legislation, that the contemplated sale was in any sense illegal, or even that Meyer SAID in the email that the sale was illegal.

        This is an action for wrongful dismissal, which is a contractual issue, and possibly for defamation, which is a tort.
        Again, there's not even a whiff in the material here that the company did anything illegal with respect to Pakistan.

        The alleged illegality concerns the treatment of Sgt. Meyer.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
  75. mike

    Anything to make a buck, it must stop. Punish these greedy bastards, send a message to everyone like them.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm | Reply
  76. C. Moakler (Louisville, KY)

    Since most of us think that military contractors are just above whale excrement but below decomposing lawyer dung I'm sure it will take a right wing judge to allow BAE to prevail. I don't think the facts even enter in to it. Don't let me on the jury because I'll get us all locked up..

    November 29, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Reply
    • John D

      This looks to me to be a fairly routine action for wrongful dismissal.

      Why get so worked up?

      November 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Reply
    • clr

      Not all military contractors are bad... One saved my son's life (a current Marine serving in Afghanistan). The equipment they make, that I buy, that is far superior to what our govt provides saved my son's legs and torso when he had an IED blow to the side. He was almost killed by shrapnel to the neck, for which there is also now gear to help with that.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Reply
  77. semper fi

    bae and other defense contractors selling weapons along with the state department should be investigated by a third party. not by any body in government
    (i dont trust them). the top ten people of what ever company then should go to jail. and one more thing, i would not want
    to serve with that scumbag of a Marine that was myers supervisor. Probablee nver spent a day in combat.
    semper fi

    November 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Reply
  78. TallinOK

    The executives of BAE should be jailed for their decision. And the US government should shut that company down. My vote goes to the Marine!

    November 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Reply
    • John D

      There isn't even a suggestion in the article that the contemplated sale was illegal.

      The alleged illegality concerns the decision to terminate Mr. Meyer's employment. That's the only thing he's alleging was unlawful. Let's stay focused on what's actually at issue.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Reply
      • Herb

        Aaaaahhhh! Facts! Not facts! My head just exploded!

        November 29, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
      • Thor

        John D..... please read the Federal Whistleblowers Act.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:52 am |
      • John D

        The Whistleblowers Act applies to protect employees who report illegal activities of their employers.

        1) Meyer did not "blow the whistle." It is clear from the material quoted here that he opposed the sale on political and practical grounds, not on legal grounds. That is, his position was not that the sale contravened US law; it was that it was unwise.

        2) There is no indication that the company acted unlawfully with respect to the sale. The alleged unlawfulness concerns Sgt. Meyer's termination. Again, this is an ordinary action for wrongful dismissal (which is, as I've written elsewhere, an action in contract). There's no "whistleblower" or national security component to this litigation.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
  79. NoTags

    The defense contractors don't give a damn how many soldiers are killed or injured by their products as long as they get to maintain their standard of living.

    God bless Dakota Meyer for bringing this lawsuit.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Reply
  80. convoluted

    With a family full of service members past and present...we all should be marching on waxhington. yes D.C. how can our congress allow this slips of consiousness. Illumicorp parts 1 and 2 give you a great idea of where congress is at! Thank you for speaking up and out, paycheck or not paycheck sueing sometimes is all they get.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Reply
    • Earnán

      English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

      November 29, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Reply
    • clr


      November 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Reply
  81. Clifford W. Adams

    I know what Sgt. Meyers is going through. I worked for Honeywell on an Air Force contract for 18 months in the middle-east. We had a couple of guys that nobody liked to work with. I kept getting teamed with them and, when I complained I was told, "Oh we don't what to piss-off so-and-so." I finally got fed up and quit. Now I can't even get an interview. I had one recruiter call me and tell me Honeywell refused to comment on me saying it was against company policy to give recommendations. But this same manger had written recommendations for others when they were leaving. I hope things work out for Sgt. Meyer better than they have for me.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Reply
    • Earnán

      So you pitched a temper-tantrum over working with the guys with cooties and quit. And you think you deserve a recommendation for that?

      You sound like a worthless waste of skin. I can only pity the people that had to work with you. No wonder you can't find work.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:16 pm | Reply
      • Sandra

        What's got your panties in a wad?

        November 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
      • jimbo

        Must agree with Sandra ...panties may not be in a knot but possibly too small squeezing your brain!

        November 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
      • Rags

        Earnán, you're an ass

        November 29, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
      • earninwat?

        Unlike Sanra & jimbo, I couldn't care less about your panties being in a wad. However, what on earth flew up your az z?

        November 29, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
      • Clifford W. Adams

        Fuck you! Nobody else wanted to work with those two.

        November 29, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
      • Clifford W. Adams

        Sounds like to me you have never served in the military or worked as a contractor in a war zone. This means you have no idea what you are talking about. You are the problem with America. You have never done anything and you think you have the right to complain about everything. I bet you don't even vote. Do our country a favor and leave or just die.

        November 29, 2011 at 11:40 pm |
  82. AYFKM

    This is NOT a new issue. Contractors are notorious for putting the dollar ahead of human life. BAE is just one in the big scheme of things. Do you realize how much money is wasted in the name of rebuilding Iraq? Very little of the money actually reaches the people and places it's designated for the rest goes into the CEO and other excecutives pockets. They vacation in the south of France while our men and women die from IED's and supposedly have the "best" equipment that's available. For every one of our brave men and women there is someone some where getting "extra money" left over from buying the $5.00 hammer for $500.00. If Obama wants to leave a positive and lasting legacy I say he needs to rethink the way contractors do business. He is at a crossroads in his presidency he can either do what's right or do like so many other presidents and turn a blind eye to what's really going on. Mr. Obama, do what we are paying you to do, BE PRESIDENT. Invesitgate the corruption of these contracting companies, take them to task and hold them accountable. Don't allow these people to continue to embarrass us as a country and kill our military people. I challenge you to DO THE RIGHT THING. You could have another term in office OR you could be voted out with the rest of the do nothings that have run our country into the ground. How do you want to be remembered?

    November 29, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Reply
    • Fly

      A M E N ! !

      November 30, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  83. musings

    To a US Marine Medal of Honor winner, there is no sense in arming people who will attack your fellow soldiers. To a globalized defense contractor with its fingers in hundred conflicts around the globe, it is senseless not to turn a profit wherever you can. Whose side are we on in this? I know I'm with the Marine. But he has an Augean stable to clean out. He'd better get busy.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Reply
  84. ufadoof

    Vote republican if you support killing our troops in the name of profit.

    November 29, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Reply
    • Elaine Connelly

      Ufadoof: You sir are a pig-headed idiot. The democrats had control of everything for so long, they've addled what little mind you had left.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm | Reply
      • clr

        Amen Elaine! This guy is just plain ignorant! I am the mother of a Wounded Warrior Marine. Our family has served this country in every war back to the Revolutionary war. We will NEVER vote Democrat. They vote out the funds used to protect our men, do deals with companies like this one as long as they fund their campaigns to the tunes of MILLIONS of dollars (where do folks think obummer got a BILLION dollars in his campaign WAR chest).

        November 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
    • Pete

      yea, and vote democrat in order to expand the government and give it even more power to deploy military forces

      November 29, 2011 at 8:57 pm | Reply
  85. Juan Carlos de Burbon

    There is more to this story than CNN is portraying. His supervisor contacted a company that was going to hire the Marine back so he could screw him over.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Reply
  86. mily

    i am freaken sick and tired of contractors abusing the system! they do not know what is like to serve your country..from the lazy good for nothing office clerks to the CEO's of the companies. spend one week in the field and your mentality will soon change! SGT. Meyer we are with you!

    November 29, 2011 at 7:47 pm | Reply
    • Zenomorph

      mily, you're an idiot. A contractor needs permission from the US Government to sell military technology overseas.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Reply
      • Cindy

        Where have you been all your life? The most corrupt people in the world are defense contractors!

        November 29, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
      • Sandra

        Stooping to name calling doesn't make your argument hold water. The current defense contractors DO have permission, and were placed by the Bush Administration will be running out sooner or later, and not be renewed.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • Earnán

      As a veteran who has worked for a large military contractor: mily, you are an idiot. A very large portion of the employees of those "evil contractors" are veterans or reservists. People who have either already done far more for our country than you ever will, or people who are being sent overseas today and put in harms way to, again, do far more for our country than you ever will.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Reply
      • Eli

        I don't believe you're a veteran of anything, except maybe of having a big, nasty mouth. On the anonymous Internet, though, you can pretend to be anyone or anything. You're simply a troll; you post excessively, and only to trash and abuse other posters. You have no positive contribution of your own to make.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
    • Elaine Connelly

      Not sure what you mean. But I for one am siding with the Marine. If the contractor is guilty, put a gun to his head and pull the trigger. Seems like the correct thing to do.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Reply
    • Timebandit

      I used to work with a contracting company for 10 years, I loved my job. Got excellent performance reviews every year, my Supv was replaced with a recent college punk w/ 2 Degrees in Engineering. He dogged me every chance he got, no matter what I did it wasn't good enough. Last straw was writing me a Letter of Corrective Action, what a piece of shyt he was, I turned in my two weeks notice after hashing it out with him. HR and mgmt favored those with degrees instead experience...why you ask? Because they can charge the gov't more money. I pretty much figured they were squeezing out those they didn't want in order to make their imagine look better, I am so glad I left that place behind me...even though I do miss the Navy.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Reply
  87. the_dude

    One way or another the miltary industrial complex will win. Even if it means throwing this guy some money to shut the hell up.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  88. RA16897089

    Dakota Meyer needs to be hired by the Defense Department to oversee the approval of samples and product for use by other governments, expecially those operations by BAE. He has honor and would not take revenge out on them for their actions against him but he would make sure they only played the game letter by letter to the extent of the law.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Reply
    • clr

      Um – you are assuming the defense dept is run by folks that are straight up. The obummer regime has allowed the sale of weapons to our enemies for 3 years to the tunes of billions of dollars – which explains his one billion dollar campaign war chest as well...

      November 29, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Reply
  89. Gina

    Seems as though if you really cared about arms sell you would have went to the media and not tried to get a paycheck out of the deal with a frivolous lawsuit. There are worst things the U.S has done throughout history and many more citizens who are fired over less. He acts as though he will be living in a box because he lost his job or applying for food stamps. So you won't be making over $100,000 a year for doing nothing. Plus, collecting that lifetime Medal of Honor check. There are Soldiers who have done heoric acts and never even received an AAM. It's all political. He should've taken up his complaint with his Commander and Chief. That is the one who authorized it.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:38 pm | Reply
    • DanielShays

      Perhaps he knows that bringing a lawsuit that BAE and its executives will have to air some of its dirty laundry in public.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Reply
    • Will

      Hey "Gina" - shut up and make your man a sandwich.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Reply
    • Conner

      It is clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about Gina.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Reply
    • GinasLame

      Gina, You have to be the lamest and most illinformed reader ever. Do you ever read the anything but the headlines? We have all officially lost brain cells by reading your post.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:23 pm | Reply
    • Elaine Connelly

      Gina: You are indeed one bia*** GO AWAY. You really should be ashamed of yourself. You must be an Obama supporter, in my book that makes you one big idiot.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Reply
    • Ryan

      Gina, he is suing because the contractor lied to potential employers about Sgt Meyers drinking and what not. This company is taking a personal vandetta against him because of his thoughts on what they wanted to do, sell arms to Pakistan (yes, that Pakistan, the same country that bin Laden was hiding in and now wants us to apologize for something that killed some of their soldiers.) He's not in it for the money. He is a MARINE (I am a Doc with a Marine unit so I know the honor that they have, at least the ones I work with.)

      November 29, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Reply
    • RachelM

      Gina– BAE slandered the guy, preventing him from getting other jobs by claiming he was an alcoholic and mentally unstable. THAT is why he originally filed the lawsuit.

      November 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm | Reply
  90. DanielShays

    Corporations know no loyalty to either country, consumer or employee, they know only profit and would sell their country out to its enemies to make a single dollar's profit. All one has to do is look at Charles and David Koch and their business dealings with Iran to see this. Instead the COWARDS OF CONGRESS turn their backs like good little prostitutes when businessmen pay them a little blood money so that coroporations can make money off the deaths of U.S. soldiers.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Reply
  91. LMG

    It used to be that a lier was called a liar. Now we say he "misstated" or he was "misquoted" and so on. Sgt. Myers unfortunately has not yet learned the "politically correct" way we do business. Hopefully he never will and he will continue to speak out for all of us. We all know Pakistan plays both sides of the street and they can't be trusted. Why our President and Congress don't have the intestinal fortitude to lead and make the right decisions for our Country and our Troops I will never understand. Thanks to Sht. Myers for all he's done for us and our Country.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:35 pm | Reply
    • DanielShays

      Pakistan is a country that sooner or later will be an enemy to the United States. The ISI runs the country and it behaves like Iran everyday.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:38 pm | Reply
    • RA16897089

      A Marine is never politically correct. He states it as it is, black, white, red, green, or bloody.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Reply
    • ctmjht

      Couldn't have said it any better.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  92. RA16897089

    Why is BAE even entertaing the thought of showing these untrustworty Packs anything that is better than our troops use. I think it is high time that the management team at BAE including the President, CEO, COO, and others be put on a rifle squad to experience the thrill of being shot at. With their equipment maybe we could give them a flack vest that has red and white concentric circles on the front and back, just to help identify them as not being soldiers. These individuals have no honor only greed. The stock holders in BAE should be screaming for their heads.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:35 pm | Reply
    • Earnán

      Only reason our troops aren't getting the "newest and bestest" gear from BAE is that your pal Obama doesn't want to buy it for the troops.

      Apparently the Pakis care more about their soldiers than the President of the United States does about our soldiers.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Reply
      • CAL USA

        As I recall, it was Bush via Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who did not want to buy armored Hummvees for the troops because of the expense. Obama has certainly made sure that the Seals had the latest stealth helicopter technology when they went after Bin Laden, and the best drones to take out the Al Quaida leadership. Of course, I'm aware that facts don't count with you Obama-haters. You can always make up your own...

        November 29, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
  93. TheMovieFan

    This is a toughie for the paid right-winger posters. Attack and criticize a Medal of Honor winner or attack and criticize a corporation.

    November 29, 2011 at 7:34 pm | Reply
    • Gracko

      Not really. When it's an individual versus a corporation, regardless of the fact that the individual is a Medal of Honor receiving Marine, the right will easily pick the corporation every time.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:38 pm | Reply
      • Damien

        Corporations ARE people ! What are you, a communist?

        November 29, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
      • Elaine Connelly


        November 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • bob

      No more than paid left-wingers... but, please, tell us more about right wingers being "paid," sense you pretend to be an expert. btw, i'm a lifelong democrat fed up with hate-mongers like yourself.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Reply
    • Ryan

      I agree with Bob. As a Conservative I am sick and tired of everyone blaming the Republicans for stuff that the Dems have a say in as well. It goes both ways. I am not for big business or greed. I agree with this honorable Sargeant of Marines. This company is all about money. But you can't tell me, Bob, that only corporations in this country are greedy. Look at all the people on Friday that could care less about everyone else at the stores trying for the same piece of junk; people pepper spraying others, people shooting people in parking lots, people trampling over others to get to the newest game that they will play for a week and then leave alone. So corporations are greedy? Republicans are greedy? If Repbulicans are greedy then everyone in America who wants more and more, who wants more money, who are against people making money, are all Rebublicans.

      I hope Sgt Meyers wins this case. If I had a business I'd hire him in a heart beat. Semper Fi (or in my case Semper Fortis.)

      November 29, 2011 at 9:24 pm | Reply
  94. mark in las vegas

    Typical greedy Defense Contractor.

    November 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Reply
    • Tom

      Why does the BBC have a more in depth story than our own American outlets? Is someone trying to downplay the seriousness here? And what the h**l is BAE thinking? Protect our own soldiers first. Period! Let's put Sgt. Meyer in the WH.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Reply
      • Jean Sartre

        The BBC has an excellent reputation for doing REAL NEWS... the American new media is mostly ENTERTAINMENT to make people laugh and advertisers money...

        November 29, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    • huxley

      Pentagon writes the Purchase Order, not the contractor. If they are buying obsolete weapons, its on the Pentagon.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Reply
      • Earnán

        You know perfectly well that facts and logic have no place in a good poltical temper-tantrum like this.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
  95. Dan the man

    I am willing to bet some of this technology has made its to the Taliban/Al-Quaeda too! We will defeat ourselves thru the greed of these Defense Contractors, they have no conscience seeing dead american kids coming home! This is sad, and SGT. Meyer had the balls to speak up, and as is typical these bastards fired him for some trumped up alcohol issue!

    November 29, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Reply
    • Pat K

      I bet it has made it to the People's Liberation Army, same folks who showed them the steath section of the helicopter they blew up.

      November 29, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Reply
  96. gerry

    How did BAE think this strategy would end in anything but misery for them? Let's see, take the side of a Medal of Honor winning Marine or a multinational defense contractor? Tough call. Time for the Marines to storm another beach...

    November 29, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Reply
    • Earnán

      The Marines remember that the US military is controlled by the civilian government of the United States. They're quite aware that sales of military equipment, such as BAE is conducting, are under the control of the US government and can only occur with the express permission of the US Defense Department and the US Department of State.

      Sgt. Meyer would do well to remember that part about "the milirtary is subject to civilian control.". It was part of the oath of enlistment he took.

      November 29, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Reply
      • CAL USA

        In case you haven't noticed it, Dakota Meyer is now a civilian and is perfectly within his rights to express his opinion without censorship.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
      • larrydavid

        Man, this guy is REALLY dumb.

        November 29, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
      • Clifford W. Adams

        If you read the article you would have seen that he was no longer a Marine. So your point shows how stupid you are.

        November 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
  97. joesph proudstone

    BAE's claims that Dakota Myers was terminated because of a drinking problem (rather than his whistle blowing of their sales of better equipment to Pakistan, than is being furnished to our soldiers) does not ring true. As a national hero BAE, who depends on good relations with the Pentagon, would not have fired Mr. Myers for alcohol abuse, but would have provided counseling and care. BAE is using the drinking card to misdirect us away from the real issue at hand that Pakistan should not be trusted with this advanced equipment. Mr. Myers is a hero again for bring this issue out into the public at the risk of his job.

    November 29, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Reply
    • bob

      Maybe they have evidence that he has a drinking problem, you don't know. Just because you are awarded a military decoration doesn't make you special.

      November 29, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Reply
      • Philippe

        yes, bob, being a recipient of the medal of honor does make you special. when you earn yours, then you can say its not.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
      • convoluted

        to getting a Medal of Honor is special...and does Make you special..because it means that usually you SAVED someone else's life..gee what you do today...bit ch

        November 29, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
      • oldsoldier

        Actually this case it does mean he's special. If he was presented the CMOH he is absolutely the best example that our country has to offer. Other awards, maybe not...but it says something when the leader of the free world must salute a CMOH recipient before he is saluted.

        Personally, I have absolutely no doubt that Pakistan has, is, and will stab us in the back. This is very much like the case of the general that was relieved of command for telling the truth regarding Afghanistan.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
      • Elaine Connelly

        Bob; You are a boob. I would no more trust you behind my back then I would trust Obama and his mama.

        November 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
      • Kristina Erin Kaye

        The Medal of Honor is an extraordinary award ... EXTRAORDINARY!!!

        November 30, 2011 at 12:35 am |
      • veteran

        bob i mean boob thats what your name should be ,well actually it should be turd sucker

        December 14, 2011 at 10:46 pm |
      • veteran

        is it not amazing what there conserofool bible thumpers say about the most honorable members of our country,spoken like a true sissy that could not even cut it in the girl scouts.

        December 14, 2011 at 10:52 pm |
    • FUNR

      Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem, but Meyer did not blow the whistle, he criticized a State Department approved sale. So there are three culprits here: BAE for retatliation via defamation, State Department for approving the sale to untrustworthy buyer, and Pentagon for not purchasing latest and greatest optics.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:13 am | Reply
  98. me

    Mr. Meyer put lives ahead of $. He truly is an honorable man.

    November 29, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Reply
  99. Jason

    Not surprising from a defense company that was investigated for bribery and corruption charges and had to pay $400 million for violating arms restrictions. All they care about is $$$$.

    November 29, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Reply
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