Pakistani-American relations back to the bottom
By Adam Levine
Just days after a top American commander in Afghanistan said the situation on the border with Pakistan was improving, the U.S. once again finds itself back in the nadir of relations with the Pakistanis.
The killing of 24 Pakistani soldiers at two military outposts, hit by NATO helicopters near the border area, has pulled the rug out from underneath American efforts to calm a relationship that had been rocked by Pakistani anger at America. (Read the latest on Saturday's incident HERE).
After American special forces snuck into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden, an American intelligence contractor killed two Pakistanis, and American officials accused the government of harboring and helping the Haqqani terror network, much work had been done to revive this critical counterterrorism effort though the two countries were barely on solid ground again before Saturday's incident.
A recent Pentagon report to Congress said the ability of insurgents to hide across the border in Pakistan is the greatest threat to success in Afghanistan. The report pointed directly at Pakistani authorities for aiding the strength of insurgents on that side of the border.
The 2012 presidential campaign has also brought forth much heated rhetoric by Republican candidates vying to be seen as standing up to the Pakistanis in a way the Obama administration has not. Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and Texas Governor Rick Perry have called for a zeroing out of foreign aid to the country.
"We were told, a perfectly natural Washington assumption that our killing bin Laden in Pakistan drove U.S.-Pakistan relations to a new low. To which my answer is, well, it should have because we should be furious," said Gingrich at this week's CNN national security debate. "you tell the Pakistanis, help us or get out of the way, but don't complain if we kill people you're not willing to go after on your territory where you have been protecting them."
In the past few weeks, the U.S. was dragged into a Pakistani government scandal when it was reported that President Asif Ali Zardari asked the U.S. government in May to help him hold on to power because he feared a military coup. A Pakistani businessman claimed he'd been asked to pass the message on to U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, then Washington's top military official. In the end, the ambassador from Pakistan, Husain Haqqani, stepped down and a new ambassador was appointed just a few days ago. The new ambassador, Sherry Rehman, has yet to come to Washington.
But there were signs the two sides were mending fences.
The American commander of international forces was just in Pakistan to meet with Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. The two discussed "measures concerning coordination, communication and procedures between Pakistan Army, ISAF and Afghan Army, aimed at enhancing border control on both sides.
Also this week, the commander for U.S. and NATO troops in eastern Afghanistan, Major Gen. Daniel Allyn, told reporters at the Pentagon that the Pakistanis had been cooperating in trying to stem Haqqani attacks that emanated from the Pakistani side of the border and were aimed at U.S., NATO and Afghan troops. Allyn described it as a "positive step forward" and said the Pakistanis had even been adjusting positions at the request of the NATO forces. The result was attacks "tapered somewhat in the past several weeks" to just "three to four cross-border firing incidents a week."
"Now, whether or not there's more to the explanation than that's where the enemy is choosing to shoot from, I can't answer that. I do know the positive sign from our perspective is the responsiveness with which the [the Pakistani military] border force have coordinated actions against the firing," Allyn said.
U.S., NATO, Afghan and Pakistani troops had been conducting communications excercises, said Allyn, to help coordinate border security. Another was scheduled for November.
Clearly, this incident has jeopardized that good will. Pakistan quickly and angrily, in messages from multiple officials, have condemned the killings, calling it "unprovoked." The country shut down two critical border crossings used to bring supplies to NATO troops. Pakistan is also ordering U.S. military personel out of Shamsi Airbase within two weeks. Shamsi had at one point been used to launch CIA drone strikes within Pakistan. In June, after the bin Laden raid, Pakistan ordered all U.S. personnel to leave Shamsi and said drone operations had ceased. At the time, a U.S. official told CNN that American counterterrorism operations in Pakistan continued and a source familiary with the drone operations said Shamsi was "still open for business."
Promises of investigations were quickly proffered by Gen. Allen and the U.S. ambassador in Pakistan, Cameron Munter. But Washington was quiet with little to say on-the-record or even on background, as the U.S. looks to figure out how what happened and how to placate the Pakistanis.
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Editorial – New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/opinion/pakistan-fans-the-flames.html
Pakistan Fans the Flames
Pakistan is refusing to help calm public fury — or help figure out what led to a NATO attack that left 24 Pakistani soldiers dead. It has rejected American entreaties to participate in a joint investigation. On Monday, it boycotted an international conference in Bonn that laid plans for Afghanistan’s future. Both moves are self-defeating.
Related News
At Conference, Afghans Say They’ll Need Aid for Years (December 6, 2011)
Obama Offers ‘Condolences’ in Deaths of Pakistanis (December 5, 2011)
If there is any chance of salvaging a working relationship, Washington and Islamabad must establish what went wrong along the border and work together to ensure that it does not happen again. The Pentagon has promised a transparent inquiry — it must deliver one — and officials say they can compensate for Pakistan’s lack of cooperation by using phone conversations, e-mail exchanges and surveillance images. But without Islamabad’s participation, the Pakistani public will never find the results credible.
The two sides have radically different versions of what went awry during an Afghan-American operation against a Taliban training camp. The Americans say they were fired on first and cleared the strikes with Pakistani Army officers. The Pakistanis say that NATO gave the wrong coordinates for the strikes and that their forces fired only after the attacks began.
The United States needs Pakistan’s cooperation — as grudging and duplicitous as it is. Islamabad controls supply routes for American troops in Afghanistan (they were closed in retaliation for the attack), and it is essential to negotiations with the Taliban. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta quickly offered condolences. President Obama waited eight days to overrule Pentagon concerns and telephone President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan to say the deaths were regrettable and accidental. We share frustrations over Pakistan, but that delay further fueled the crisis.
Pakistan needs American aid and help to hold off the extremists — a fact no Pakistani leader has the courage to admit. Their behavior in recent days has become even more irresponsible. Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the chief of the Pakistani Army, made things more dangerous by giving his border troops the green light to return fire without asking for permission beforehand.
Pakistan’s refusal to attend the Bonn conference was misguided. The meeting, attended by dozens of countries and organizations, worked on a political and economic strategy to ensure Afghan stability after NATO troops draw down. Pakistan has a strong strategic and economic interest in Afghanistan’s future. With its boycott, it has denied itself a voice and increased its own isolation.
Heloo falks. I hail from Faislabad Pakistan as freelund repotar to gave you blow by blow of what is go on behaind the back of Pakistan in Bonn German. It is sham USA kill many soljar on Afghan Pak boder forcing Pakistan to baycot Bonn. Some say this was USA grand plan from begining only. Only tame will tell. Anyway so far confrance is going ok no commant by any candidate. Soon as I com by they quite down and hush hush so I am not able to get inside info on anything.Rumor is Pakistan is not being missed much as Mr Krishna from India is showing off and become very chummy with Hillary, Kerzai and Euro leaders who is double crosser to Pakistan anyway. To make matters worstest, Germany served excellant lunch buffet of all Pakistani choice, to entice Pakistani offcials to change ther mind and come to this conference. This is an insult. Anyway the food was most delicious and included Shahi Biryani, Tandoori Chicken, Mughlai Lamb, Mutton Korma, Zafrani Pilaf with small raisins and big nuts, 26 different vegetable dishes of Indian names I can't pronounce, (of course to kiss up to India as usual). There was naan, raita and some pungent pickles. In dessert I had Rasgoola, Galab Jaman, Ras Malai and my favorat Feerni. The attendees have all left for more conference for the afternoon session. So far rumor is Pakistan should have bin here to at least fight with India for what they want before everything in Afghanistan is divid up and taken and all we get is scraps. But as usual Pak leaders do exact opposite of what world is doing. Anyway I am drowsy after this heavy meal so I will pretend to be sleeping with one eye and ear open to catch the gossip and repot back to you.
Sikandar Khan – Bonn Germany, Pakistan Zindabad !!
I see that most of you guys are Trolls. Extremely dis-respectful, for those who say U.S are wimps, Pakistan are cowards and Indians are idiots, Its really only you guys that are wimps,cowards and idiots. Now here I am getting all worked up. You guys are getting more funny! Bobby looks like you have been taking my advice.....
ditto
India and Pakistan can both go to hell!!!!!!!
You know you a PAKISTANI when 1. You own $ 300 machine gun & a $5000 rocket launcher but run around barefoot. 2 You have more wives than teeth. 3 You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof & suicide. 4 You can't think of anyone u haven't declared Jihad on. 5 You consider TV dangerous but routinely carry ammunition in your underwear . 6 You are amazed to discover that mobile phones have uses other than setting off road-side bombs. 7 You refine cocaine for a living but have a moral objection to drinking beer. LOL HAHAHAHAHAH
Well i wont try to act like a lawyer here and immediately jump to defend Pakistan...but seriously dude you are heavily mistaken,i don't object at all to all the things u said but my dear those things hold true to Afghanistan and not to Pakistan.And whether its a Pakistani or anyone i totally condemn this moral duality of doing cocaine and objecting to alcohol or for that matter all forms of dualism...Its not the pakis wandering with ammunition the way u described its the afghans and other foreign operating agencies in Pakistan..rest if u come and see things for yourself then you would believe what i'm trying to make u understand here because being out of the ring u just know what media shows and they show Muslims in terrorism where as being as Muslim doesn't mean you are a Pakistani too...hope u get what I'm trying to explain..tc and thanks for your time...bye
Please brothers do not put hatred here. we are just 18 days behind 16th December. Lets celebrate 16th December with pride.
On 16th December 1975, 90,000 eunuchs from Pakistan (pakis call them soldier) surrendered in front of India.
Damm Straight. Pakis dont want to admit it but they lost and surrendered to us 🙂
I missed one Point .. 95000 surrendered in front of 5000 only .. 1 indian soldier is enough to take care of 19 pakistanis 🙂
These beggars still have not returned 65 crore given after independence to give shelters to Pakistani beggars ...
You know you a paki when 1. You own $ 300 machine gun & a $5000 rocket launcher but run around barefoot. 2 You have more wives than teeth. 3 You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof & suicide. 4 You can't think of anyone u haven't declared Jihad on. 5 You consider TV dangerous but routinely carry ammunition in your underwear . 6 You are amazed to discover that mobile phones have uses other than setting off road-side bombs. 7 You refine cocaine for a living but have a moral objection to drinking beer.
This is not a India bashing Pakistani forum. We are discussing our tax dollars here. Go write some coding.. I smell enough of you tandoori chickens at work.
This just in. U.S. condems the attack on Pakastan as a mistake by the NATO forces. They were asked to blow the entire Middle East off the map and just took out one guard shack. Our bad. The U.S. did confirm plans are in place to finish the bombimg tomorrow sometime in the late p.m.
Great what channel is it on
We need to get boots on the ground and sweep through there like a hurricane with a voluminous spray of bullets bombs missiles and artillery shells. I wish we could still use napalm. Fry these fu()kers !!!!
You all don't know what you are talking about I can only hear hate in your words...Let people live their own lives like they want and don't get involved in more hatred...Love more and hate none there is enough hate already...You all should get a life and start by learning how to love one another no matter what...I don't swim in your toilet so don't pee in my pool...A prayer for all you poor souls...
one of the rare anti-hatred msgs here rest i just see people stabbing one another with words here,,thumbs up to u...
CNN should have age verification for comments! As an Indian citizen, I'm disgusted that some teenage prick who claims to represent my nation comes to a public forum like this and spews venom. Grow up! Take that schoolboy angst elsewhere! Can't speak for the Pakis responding in kind, but Alphamale and your foulmouthed friends, you don't represent me and surely not the youth of India. There is a lot of anger and disgust at the policies of the Pakistani nation in India, but surely, people of my country can put forward structured arguments instead of potty-mouthed rants!
im just going through reviews posted here by all kinda people and im truly disgusted to see the kinda remarks Im reading here..thanks to your post i feel better that at least there are sensible mature and rational people out there too apart from emotional unfledged folks...
We need to ho in there and kill a few million of these dark skinned muslim fckers
Your comments sum it up your psychopathic and you should be kicked out of the service
was it not your unit that murdered civilians for sport,Your a disgrace !!
How can a psycho like you work for the American forces? If the likes of you represent America, God help this nation of yours.
PTSD comes to my mind...............
why in hell are you working for us? this is such a disgrace and in all honesty embarrassing. if you honestly think killing innocent lives is the way to peace you are completely obliterate to the truth.
This isnt Facebook else i would've clicked 'LIKE' 🙂
The person naming himself RALPH is a slumdog indian whih can also be called Randian. These bastards have always been jelous of pakistan since Pakistan has fukd them from 1948 onwards to this day. These Randian (products of prosts) have been ruled for over 1000 years strait by pakis and they did not get a chance even for a single day to rule pakis. this is the height of frustration that they are barking here as the matter is between US & PAkistan
JEALOUS of PAKISTAN???????????? The sh!ttiest place on earth? Dude, what do they feed you in Pakistan?
Dude if it is shitist place in the earth why the heel ur NATO n AMERICAN Leaders r crying for help to the Pakistanis go found a new country for help no one will help ur soliders now ur holidays in Afghanistan is over for sure
Dude if it is shitist place in the earth why the hell ur NATO n AMERICAN Leaders r crying for help to the Pakistanis go found a new country for help no one will help ur soliders now ur holidays in Afghanistan is over for sure
You honestly believe that Pkaistan has screwed india and that pakistan is in better shape .Haha,ITs time you stop listening to what your politicians are telling you.Its time to actually learn about what your nation now is compared to India.The world sees Pakistan as a failed nation,that not only harbors terrorists but also trains them.I know its hard for you to accept the fact that majority of your whole nation is poor and only a minority is rich and also that India has surpassed you in so many ways that you have to make lies and you continue to use Indias poverty as a flaw of their nation.When you learn more about countries,you will see every nation has poverty,even your ally China has the same problem called poverty. India ahead of you end of discussion. Stop bring India into every argument. Start taking some responsibility of your actions. And for your Info : India has had the capability of taking Pakistan over many times in different wars with you. But the US &UN had stopped them from doing so.Unlike your nation India follows UN resolutions.Plus the world loves India ,mainly cause its a Democratic nation unlike your Military controlled nation. Next time you say Pakistan is better than India.Please rethink it before opening mouth and actually learn some facts about your own nation.
I wonder why the ONLY superpower in the world has FAILED in Afghanistan and Iraq...you think India can take over Pakistan just based on that A$$umption I see who is delusional here buddy!!!
LOL thepakiman you are so ignorant! Its almost impossible to win a war when you aren't fighting a military but a group of people based in their own country... in their own terrain.. with their own beliefs which make them want to fight to the death! And pakistan isnt helping! they lie to America over and over again saying they are helping efforts in Afghanistan when they are doing jack! You can go all "pakistan is great and America sucks!" but who had a leader of a terrorist group outside of a military base? who also had one of their most secure base breached by a group of terrorists.. by group i mean like 8! I'm pretty sure India is stronger than pakistan because in past wars who won? right india ... im sorry but you guys are too unstable to stand a chance just saying... So if you truly believe Pakistan is more powerful than India or America (both of which have far advanced techology than Pakistan) then be my guest be "loyal" to your country be patriotic but if something happens in the future ,god forbid, we will see who is right 😛
Obviously you are from Pakistan, because nobody else in the world believes that Pakistan is a stronger nation than India. we'll see how that pans out when you lose the support of the US and India is free to retaliate for the cowardly attacks they've endured from Pakistan.
little boy Greg.....mine is bigger that your....LOL.........when you get out of high school only that you should start posting comments!!!
I dont know or care for what happened 1000 years ago- but 40 years ago, we ablated your sorry country into two halves. 12 years ago, my buddies butchered the northern light infantry at Kargil.
While we didnt cherish the rivalry, we did enjoy those victories 'coz they were earned against worthy opponents.
Today, a Paki either blows himself up, or is shot at by Talibans/NATO – there's really no need for us to invest in a war with a country that's on a highway to hell. Therefore you can keep relishing your skewed history lessons, until your country is wiped off the face of the earth......
OR you can shake off your fanaticism, and realise that Indians can be your best friends in peace.
Seriously dude, the Afghans hate you, the Americans/western world hates you, the Indians hate you, the Russians dislike you.....who are you friends with amongst your neighbours?
That's so damn true,,i was exactly thinking the same as to why on earth are Indians poking their nose here,,this post here on which people were supposed to comment is totally regarding US and Pakistan....why on earth do they have to bring themselves into each and everything regarding Pakistan....
I am a nice girl from a nice country. We taken a lot of paki boys to us..we gave them clean clothes and school..and now paki boy thanks us by calling me names..and raping my ass.. Paki boy should die..
I like your nice nice girl what about your ass. come and have some.................
Nice girl do not like dirty paki small dick..we like western bazooka..
We cant keep this up... Our military is in a awkward situation , the attacks come from the border area most of the time now. Im guessing the military wants to hit pakistan hard. See It looks to me like the US government wants/needs pakistan to help the destroy the threat, so the US keeps trying to kiss pakistan´s ass and get on there good side. While at the same time the military side is attacking lightly but needs to get inside the country and destroy. But, why should the pakistani government want to help the US, also why don´t they? Pakistan has been sh!ting on the US for a while now. Pakistan is just taking and taking. There is no hope for the path that Bush took, maybe there might be but not likely.
Buddy i refuse to take your point. Sitting in US hailing US army about attacking their ally? Put yourself in someone else's show to realize what has really been happening? you found peace by killing millions of Iraqi's to find weapon of mass destruction by using weapons of mass destruction by US itself..?!?
What about another million being living in Afghanistan on the cost of 9/11? What is wrong with the american's takign on every other country just because the US believes they're a threat? What if one day a new super power comes onto the world map and assumes that US is a threat and starts killing the US citizens and the army?! what then? Think before its too late!
Regards!
Pakistan is duplicitous. They can't be trusted.
Neutrino thanks for your random anti-us rant. Funny how we never see people like you in person.
Neutrino: Something like that will happen to the USA no doubt. Something like that happens to every country. Im not saying we should destroy pakistan, I also didn´t say any thing about Iraq. This headline is about Pakistan relations to the U.S on new events.
Also most Afghan´s don´t mind U.S/Coalition forces in there country because food and water is easier to get now, schools are being built , justice sadly isn't as strict as was when the Taliban were running the show. Also housing is about the same as it was before the war.
And about the millions dead, Its a combat zone not every body will make it home. I might sound cold hearted but, its reality. BTW, I´m not in the U.S at the moment.
Why do you have such an idiotic army that it cannot get the terrorists on their side of the border? Why do they need help? Stay on your side of the border and get your terrrists there. Oh, I forgot, you can't even move beyond 10km of Kabul!!!! Lern how to fight in combat instead of lobbying missiles from miles away!
You are a funny guy. But, you need to work on you comedian skills. you had pretty good deliverance, but, the joke was not so funny nor was it clever. Your concept of war is warped. Believe me the U.S forces stay on afghan soil.... not to sure about our rounds. Bobby NEVER dis-respect a military as a whole.
New project done by uk uni shows pakistanis would eat dead pig ... but pig rejects dead pakistani
as per dawn paki paper
pakistans new generation is born retarded 95% of them cos of marriges between siblings ..
85% of pakistani girls are raped by there fathers and brothers and focrfully married to there brothers ...
in 2010 85 pakistani family were cought in canada engaged in rapes of there daughthers by fathers and brothers
PAKISTANIES ARE MESSED UP
Indian dick head......pakkis may b messed up but u n ur ghandi drank cow piss.... So who is messed up here......
Ummm...the rape crap is WAY worse than drinking cow piss, you idiot. LOL!
US army & NATO has played a damaging role by killing 24 Pakistani soldiers. I feel US is trying to find a scapegoat in shape of Pakistan in order to hide their own shortcomings and failure in Afghanistan.
Moreover, the fact of the matter is, US should not brag about giving aid to Pakistan, since they haven't paid nothing at all or very little. I hope Pakistan realizes as soon as possible and come out of america's magic spell.
The peace can come to this world in only one way. Wishing US demise!
You sound like a typical anti NATO voice, well versed in western culture. Just call us round eye and quit the act. Lol.
Be careful about what you wish for.
People like you make me mad... always saying "DEATH TO AMERICA" its like what the hell man. Just because we are trying to help bring peace to a nation that has long been unstable (afghanistan) and accidentally killed 24 paki soldiers, which is tragic, doesnt mean we are doing a scape goat. You are ignorant if you think war goes according to plan.. mistakes happen and people die.. and America's spell? you mean giving aid to multiple countries around the world despite most of their population hating us? o my bad we try to help even though you are ungrateful. Are you really that angry at America you wish its "demise" you want 300million people to just die? seems kind of sick and wrong but hey im American i know nothing according to pakis -.-
No problem. Obama, lover of peace, send troops.
pakistan ..shitestan ..tattistan ..terroristan ..homostan..piigistan .. sisterfcksrstan...abbukkillerstan..gandustan..randistan..
PAK SHAITAN IS WELL KNOW NAME IN EVERY LANGUAGE LOL
Ass hole black Gando looks like drunk with COW'S PISS , as per HINDU religion it is holy drink ,,,,,,,,, sheeeeet man
Pakis are killing and eating each other now!! I will have a Paki abbu with a side of coleslaw please........
abbu comes halal ??
Abbu is halal with chat masala and onions...lol
yayay this thanksgiving we get some halal abbu leg peaces
EATINGS YOUR GOD IS NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR HINDU RELIGION........SO YOU CANT EAT A PAKI............SORRY
Deport Pakis from Britain, the rest of Europe and North America back to their caves in Pakistan................we have had enough of these barbarians.
F..indians
coward...
Pakistanis are the fith of this earth-always killing people and always begging everybody......the inbred ba$tards!
Raul dont be a whining bitch and keep your bias opininons to yourself.Americans wont be able to keep themsleves alive in afgahnistan if it wasnt for Pakistan`s support.Please identify your legitimate father first you bastard.
please come out from under the rock....USA went insdie pak to get bin laden...they hit you inside pakistan with drones on a daily basis...and your poor undeveloped brain thinks USA needs pakistan...hahahahaha
RK from US... The drone attacks only happen because Pakistan allows them to happen.Now you have 14 days to vacate the Shansi air base..Ironic isnt it..Lets see how many drone attacks now you ppl can conduct now that the Pakistani Government isnt allowing you too.... As for yout comment on the Bin Laden Raid.. The only proof of the Raid that the world got to see was the missile struck,damaged remains of an American Helicopter..Seems to me that you are the one with the underdeveleloped brain, living in a nutshell,believing the governement as it tell you what you wanna hear., Come out from your tunnel vision and learn to accept the facts.
Pakistanis are gutless born without balls ... i wonder there salwaars comes with tampons lol
i bet america will chuck some $$ all these porkies will licking there behind like a good servants hahaha
ralph......if paki dont have Balls.............I wonder how were you conceived............
INDIA :
The nation which has the most prostitutes (3000,600) and 70% of bollywood are either gays or lesbians 😀
salwaar boy you can do better then that common kid 🙂
PAKISTAN ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHOSE GDP AND CURRENCY IS LOWER THE SOMALIA
AND ONLY COUNTRY WHO STILL DONT HAVE INTERNET MWAHAHA
Lolz, no internet??.. Yet we are getting our biggest projects being done in Pakistan. Its far developed than India, Its only the propaganda that is against them. They are the great people. There kindness and peacefullness can be shown from the very fact that they are not even replying to your silly comments. Yet most of the traffic landing on this page is from Pakistan. They are wise people unlike you
chup kar kutte .. khusre ki aulad .. go cook some abbu
Please don't insult Somalians by comparing them to Porkis ;-). We are much more educated, civilized and peaceloving than terrorist Porkis!!!
AS US AFGANI .. I AM GLAD 24 PIGS ARE DEAD .. PAKISTANIS HAVE RUINED OUR COUNTRY .. WE AFGANIES WIL BACK UP STATES TO SHOOT MORE LIL DIRTY PIGS
You are not Afghani. Don't like. Afghans are greatful to Pakistan for their gratitude. Pakistan held and feed the biggest migration of afghan people during soviet war. Pakistan support them at the very time when they were about to be removed. You are an indian pretending to be Afghan. Thats for sure.
Wrong!!! Afgans hate Pakistans.....................it's because of Pakistan's dirty politics and Jehad that Afghanistan has become a battlefield. You will pay for killing millions of Afghanis killed, Pakistan..............
Learn how to spell Afghani first then pretent o be one. Let me educate you,it is Afghani and not Afgani. Ofcourse stupid Indians cannot pronounce "h".
You wonder why there are wars in this world? Just read the barbaric, ignorant, hate-filled comments above.
haha i hear you on that, mate
ALPHAMALE and Bubba have made this blog unbelievably disgusting with their sick "jokes." I've noticed they have basically driven everyone off the blog and now I"m out of here, too.
I AM PAKISTANI .. I GOT 4 WIVES .. I MARRIED MY SISTER .. AND 3 GOATS ... MY SON MARRIED HIS MOTHER ..
MY DOUGHTER MARRIED HER UNCLE .. THEN I MARRIED MY AMMI .. MY ABBU MARRIED A GOAT ...
WE GREAT PAKISTANI FAMILY WE ALL WEAR SAME SALWAARS 🙂
Lolz.. A typical indians came on the scene. I don't understand why indians always consider themselves being raped in any other matter of the world which has Pakistan involvement. Lolz..
It's one thing to disagree with the duplicity of Pakistani politicians. But these disgusting, racist comments about the Pakistani people in general...they are simply sickening. I wish the computer could read your comments back to you so you realize how ignorant and prejudiced you sound.
I know a Paki who got married to his sister in Canada, then his kids got married to their mother too lol......................
abbu gandu ammi rand
dil dil pakistan
Oh daym we got 2 goat fckers online now .. lol
haha so hows abbu halal meat doing for ya??
This Pic does not represent Pak. It is adviced to change the Pics and put the pics of those martared soldiers. After all USA must not loot all muslim worlds of there resources. This whole blame game is to grab natural resources of all muslim nation, as God gifted them. USA must learn to stay and live on their own resources. Looting Gold, OIL. Think clear. People around the world cannot be fooled any more.
Who is looting who? Sadaam Hussein has been receiving all of the revenues in Iraq for his oil for years, until the US took him out. Now why do think that might be the case? Because the US is interested in the IRAQI PEOPLE receiving the benfits from their oil moreso that Sadaam ever was. You have no idea what you are talking about you moron.
How funny Danny boy. US went to Iraq to save them from Saddam. Really? How humane? Since when dude?
USA went to Iraq to steal oil. But after spending trillions of dollars on Iraqi and then Afghan Destruction, USA is bankrupt itself now. Nature smiles and bites back.
Stop your crap and non-sense.
John, If we went to iraq for oil, wouldn't we have some? As the most funded and one of the best militaries in the world, if we went to war for oil we would be rolling in it within the first month.
what happens when a pig rapes abitch = ALPHAMALE
LMAO, now thats what I am talking about..
I don't understand your hard-on against ALPHAMALE. It appears to me that most of his comments are anti-Pakistani. Aren't yours or is your handle misleading? It is hard to tell which side of the fence you fall on though since you actually are so busy with your comments about ALPHAMALE that you never state where you stand on the Pakistani issue. The blogger who sends me through the roof is SS!!!
oh daym paki boy thats pretty gd one .. got more in ur tiny lil salwaat .. camel humper lol
PAKISTAN NATIONAL ANTHEM
HUMMARE LUND CHOTTE
AMMI KE MOMME MOTTE
KHUSRA ARMY PEHANTI SALWAAR
INDIA KO KIA SURRENDER 4 BAR
BEHAN HAMARI GASHTI
INDIANS KARLO MASTI
SALWAAR HAMARI KHULLI
ANDHAR DALLO LULLI
ABBU GANDU AMMI RAND
DIL DILD PAKISTAN
Use English, you slum-dog..
Come on,,,that's impossible for Urine Drinking Hindus
awe look at these 2 goat fckers .. helping each other lol
Mr.Alphamale and Ghantawalla
please go out of here and have some respect for your own family.
I think your parents did not teach you how to behave in the public.
Have some shame and respect. Stupid persons like you create hatred.
I expected CNN to be platform for NEWs not for this kind of crap.
I just read these comments first time on my life and to my surprise there should be a screening on the comments.
People should share their viewpoint not nonsense.
I am sorry, if my comments are not nice.
I hope sensible people understand my views.
oye appaa se shadi karne walle khusre ... go blow urslef
Your mentality shows you're Indian.
thats y they fucked you in mumbai with their small lullis and u r dad ran away leaving ur mom alone in bed then ajmal kasab finished the job and your mom is thanful to him even to this day. Infact she had been working hard for hours but ur dad'd lund was not awaking ... I have a next door uncle who fucked ur grand ma in 1965 and ur khusra dad is his his legitimate son ... hahaha
pakistan is left over shiat which wont flush lol
You are leftover of what our moma did not swallow.
U hindu. Go back into the Ahole of your gai maata.. ironic isnt it. Hindus worship cows and snakes whereas Pakistani`s eat cows and kill snakes..Sums up everything for me
Very entertaining....it does expose the real hatred. No wonder if the earth self-destructs....correction, is nuked-off...
no body wins in this game.
Thank you kind sir!
whats common between paki submarine and used condom???
both filled with thick useless siemen ;0)
I'm gonna get you a condom. That way you can have protection when you go puck yourself.
calm down salwaar boy .. your lil parachute pants will burst with shiat l:)
I am white, Christian and American, some thing you'll never be... you filthy slum-dog..
its ok soon all pakies will be converting to hinduism , budhism and chrristanity .... you are on right track .. salwaar boy 🙂
Christian? Gee, what a wonderful example you are of Christianity.
He brings the evil out of me... I will say 50 hail Marys later..
You guys drink cow Pizz and eat cow dung? Worship monkeys, rats and live like cockroaches, yea.. the pakis are looking forward to that...
whats the diff between pak boy and paki men??
paki boys raise goats .. paki men get emotionally involved
You Phacking Indians, You're the best at all you do – and all you do is make people hate you.
and all you do make pple shoot you and kill you 🙂
Got to go,,, I have to service your sister again..
oh sister joke .. snap .. paki boy now you getting there .. comon hit me .. camel humper
Don't call your sister a Camel.....
Salwar is better than ur national dress DHOTI BANYAN hahaha
PAKISTAN POVERTY IS SO BAD .. PPLE ARE KILLING AND EATING THERE FAMILY MEMBERS ..
HOPE INDIANS STOP FREE FOOD AND WATER AS AID TO PAKISTAN
The social engineering is easy enough. Millions of Pakistani women are getting their hands on the Internet and realizing that just about everywhere else in the world, they have rights. This is precisely what Pakistani men are trying to supress. It is not only backfiring on them enough to exert their rage on innocent Americans, but it is backfiring on them within their own homes. They must convert or go the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah, Pakistani women are learning from white american women, who bear the best abuse in the whole world (USA also have the distinction of leading the world in abuse by men). American women now hit back and kill enough of useless white asses who are good for nothing. Good social engineering that is, indeed.
Go research stuff before uploading your comments. Islam is the only religion which honours women rights. In Pakistan no one supresses women rights, instead they are treated as queens, quite contrast to how you people get drunk,rape women, kill innocent women and children in iraq and afghanistan and then act like ambassadors of women rights: Behaviour true of a hypocrite.
What do you get when cross breeding a monkey with a cow??? A Slum-Dog Indian who worships rats..
WHAT YOU GET WHEN BROTHER RAPES HIS SISTER AND MARRIES HER??
PAKISTANI 🙂
Whats the difference between an Indian and a bucket full of Dog-Chit???? The Bucket.....
awe bubba you can do better then that .. please dont hurt me with thise words 😉 lol
you need to suck lil more mulla cock haha
My apology to your mother, I lied.... I did come in her mouth...
BUBBA ..
oh snap mama joke .. common i wanna hear some more 🙂
The best part of you ran down your mamas chin....
oh daym salwaar boy .. now you talking like a porky .. common more more more 🙂
you getting there son
dear Americans i really cant understand a man or group of people with AK 47 in AFG mountains can destroy u?
come -on man.come back dont wast u tax money.
Read Gene Sharp "From Dictatorship to Democracy."
Bottom line is the US and allies are trying to bring change to a part of the world and regimes that don't want it. Pakistan is proof of that. As we are about to bring our troops home from Iraq it leaves our troops in Afghanistan very vulnerable. Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran have had meetings in the past. Incidents like this are the fire to light a fuse to a powder keg that has been waiting to blow for years. We need to bring ALL our troops home before it blows.
You call world destruciton a CHANGE. Engineered by none other than Neo Cons, who ensure trillions of US taxpayers money is wasted and America is now well on its way to social and economic destruction. Soon the banktupted US will become the fourth world country since Jews are transferring all money to Israel and Australia. Worry about your own sorry asses, your useless Congress, your army hired to protect big money interests and rising povery in the US. OK....
Pakistan is a very strong country. It will never blow. America has killed 35000 Pakistanis so far. Pakistan stands firm and intact. US, however, will BLOW UP. Economically and Socially. Watch what's happening on Wall Street. Mother nature never forgivs and bites back. What you sow for others, you reap. US is well on its way of exinction.
Good Bye USA. Nice knowing yeah......
pakistan water and food comes from india
money from usa
look at these traitors
Pakistan is a hotbed experimental playground for social engineering. We just have to cut off supply to food and water so they begin to consume themselves, just like the latest case of the woman chopping up her husband with her son and cooking him. This is the first sign. Pakis are so brutal with women that they are engineering the conditions for their own canabalist demise.
Indians are the biggest immigrant group on the earth today ,they are the poorest one as well and the HIV stick en as well.
lol sure kid .. i think time to change ur tampon and salwaar lol
go look at embasis .. all packed up with salwaars and black tents lol
i bet you live in states or uk too .. you salwaar boy lol
JINNAH PAKISTAN FOUNDER EVEN HATED PAKISTAN .. HE RAISED HIS OWN FAMILY IN INDIA .. WHO IS NOW ONE MOST OF WEALTHIEST FAMILIES ...
PAKISTAN IS 2ND FAILED STATE IN THE WORLD AFTER SOMALIA
GOOD JOB JINNAH YOU FCKED THE WORLD BY CREATING PAK SHAITAN
To the families of those Pakistani soldiers who were murdered by US/NATO......they shall never be forgotten and you will be taken care of. That is the Pakistani way. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICES.
america will chuck some dollars and you will be licking there ass .. ASAP LOL
It's just time that plays with us all , it was just 10 years before when we raped all indians by doing 6 atomic explosions to there 5 , remember it was your president who came to lahore to sign friendship pact ?
Now we are in the state you were in 1990-2000 .
Time is everything 😉
Don't boast off , No one knows what will happen with you !!! I just hope that you remember KHALISTAN lol 😀
Come get you some Achmed...
Who Cares! They have never liked us and have lied all the time. Good Ridance.
then who cares yours troop in AFG?
Dont worry. Afghans kill dozens of US soldiers every day. Only a fraction of deaths are reported in US. US soldiers keep scared and keep hiding in their bases. You scared piece of shits.
Afghanis and Pakis are bunch of faggots, just like yourself. You primates can't think your way out of a cave.
For all intents and purposes, the Pakis are a terrorist country that have nukes.
If they were going to do something, they would have certainly done it by now.
Don't you think that they might be struggling with their own consciences?
There is nothing a piece of shit like yourself can do. Pakistan has world's fourth largest arsenal of nuclear weapons and its missiles can hit any where in Europe and Middle East. Stay tuned and stay scared. USA, a bankrupt nation, is on its way to extinction. SMile..............................
I think its hiliarious that the US snuck right into Pakistan and picked off your dirty wizard.
He looked like a homeless occupier, the kind of person close to death that society seems to disregard as they beg for change on every streer like a poor socialist like yourself.
Just like a dirty fuck to want to kill millions of people because they have no idea what their taking about. The rest of the world figured out how to work together to make the world a better place but you guys of course have an obsessed desire to just blow shit up you don't like. If you think taking out people who want to murder innocent civilians is wrong then crawl in your cave and go fuck yourself.
To the families of those Pakistani soldiers who were murdered by US/NATO......they shall never be forgotten and you will be taken care of. That is the Pakistani way. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICES
hahahaha good joke son .. dont worry you will be joining em soon ... here comes the drone 🙂
Their families will be well rewarded by US dollars in this never ending game of life we play.
Seems like you and your siblings spent your entire childhood seeing your mom giving head and getting screwed by every one in town. RIght? Typical American mom you had and a typical piece of shit bastard you are.
Rouge nations should be careful with violations of a foreign country's border. What would happen if a squad of Paki military shot a few people in Texas eh? Terronoia have replaced intelligence in America.
USA is world's best rogue nation and longest surviving terrorist nation. This terrorist nation is in war for 209 years now. Why?
Because your mom gives good hed and all our soldiers are coming.
PAKISTAN ATTACKED INDIAN 4 TIMES AND EVERYTIME LOST PART OF THERE COUNTRY AND 25000 SOLDIERS WERE KILLED BY MARELY FEW 100 INDIAN SOLDIERS LOL
LOTS OF PAKISTANIES WERE FOUND HIDING UNDER BURQAS AND WERE SHOT DEAD LIKE PIGS
PAKISTAN IS 1ND FAILED STATE AFTER SOMALIA ..
PAKISTAN IS ONLY COUNTRY WHERE THERE OWN CRICKET TEAM PLAYS IN DUBAI LOL
then u (Indians) must attack on us?what u think?have u power? ha ha ha ha poor Indians.
you dont have anything we want .. we dont attack who is already dead 🙂
pakistan attacks we slap em .. they cry and go back home
And surely india is only country whose own primeminsiter was killed by one who wanted Khalistaan . And you call 1965 a defeat ? Half of your amritsir was doomed lol ,
Remember you begged to stop ISI to end instigating sikhs ?
Man are u blind ?
The Paki are playing both sides in this conflict. That is not a good way to make friends. And frankly I don't know what that smell is emanating from Paki women but I am thinking a little deodorant and perfume would be welcome.
PAKISTAN COUNTRY OF MILLIONS BUT NOT A SINGLE NOBLE PRIZE WINNER ..
ONLY OUR AHAMADI BROTHER WAS PROUD NOBLE PRIZE WINNER .. HOPE WE WERE BORN IN INDIA
stupid they have one ok India has not even 1
bhen ke lorre .. go google it .. you want me to name all 12 of them?? lol
teri salwaar zauda tight hgaye gandu
as a ahamdi i will support india .. lets fvck these pakistani kafirs ... i know how pakies treat us ahamdis .. i left pakistan 10 years ago and now porud Indian .. i will shoot pakistanies myslelf
The comments above can hardly be called courteous. Apparently the media does not let the common man think straight. The facts which have emerged is that the check posts were clearly marked on NATO maps and that the check posts had small arms only. If NATO uses air power to strike friendly check posts, how does it respond to enemies? Your guess is as good as mine. All the codes of conduct are for the non-NATO and non-US uncivilised beasts. You don't have to have a reason to kill them – kill them all if you can.
Yeah. This is mind set by so called civilized nation called USA. These whites are piece of crap and shitty people. All they think about is world's desruction. Then they wonder and ask themselves why are we hated? No wonder USA is on its way of extinction. The nature is taking its toll...USA will be destroyed by inside. Jews are already taking its money away from USA to Israel and Australia. Once the transfer is complete, USA is done. It wil be the only fourth world country
HEY ALL YOU PAKIES YOU PPLE SHOULD MOVE BACK TO PAKISTAN ... YOU HAVE MESSED UP WESTERN CULTURE
UR WOMEN WALK AROUND IN BED SHEETS AND MEN IN PARACHUTE PANTS .. SICK LOOKING UGLY HOES AND MEN
Funny! Better than no clothes....:)
my family was killed by pakistanies ... i cant wait for Indians to come and help us .. Indians are helping us with medical aid .. buidling schools , bridges and roads ...
all pakistan does is distruction ..
PAKISTAN IS REALL PAK SHAITAN
ha ha ha u are a India bitch i am sure ha ha ha ha come out of your blanket .
Nanat sag suk mizaneh
INDIA ... COUNTRY OF BIGGEST MIDDLE CLASS ..AVERGE MIDDLE CLASS WORTH 2 TO 3 MILLION US
MOST BENZ AND BMW SOLD IN INDIA
HOUSE OF F1 , IPL AND BOLLYWOOD
OWNERS OF JAGUAR AND RANGEROVER
7 MISS UNIVERS AND 6 MISS WORLD
INDIAN INVENTED HOTMAIL
INDIA 12 NOBLE PRIZE WINNERS
PAKISTAN
NO LULLYWOOD
NO CARS
NO MONEY
WATER COMES FROM INDIA
MONEY COMES FORM USA
WEAPONS COMES FROM CHINA
FOOD COMES FROM UNO
POVERTY IS SO BAD IN PAKISTAN .. PPLE ARE FORCED TO COOK AND EAT THERE FAMILY MEMBERS
LIST GO
Pakistanis are curse to the world peace .America and Nato F....... Them hard
Indias are the mess on this planet and animals to the minorities as well.ha ha ha h a poor and HIV stuck-en country.
hey would like to put a condemnation on Washington and NATO in bad words that has challenged the soverighty of pakistan inspite of that Islamabad did play front line role in combating terrorism and America is bent upon do more.If America is powerful engough then she need not get help from us bit should directly do her business in Kabul.Of course impossible for her.I would say that America has no right in comming to Afghanistan by saving people from the terrorism and its calamity.As I know jugded by the geographical measurement,America is as failed as USSR was but America is badly plunged and is running awway.She will have to succumb to defeat and must surrender to defeat.Only one she likes and did that she did not win the hearts of pakistan and Afghanistan.Every body has become talib and is ready to face America.Media is I think not aware that where is American deployed and what is their living standard...90 percent area is under Afghan talibans and Americans troops along with NATO are limited to Kabul and the riads that are done by troops are arranged fights..they can and will never come out of their holes.....the fright to them is DEATH..that is waiting for them
you are right..
WHY YOU PAKIES ALWAYS LIE ... I WONDER YOU PPLE ARE 2ND MOST FAILED STATE IN THE WORLD ..
EVEN WE AFGANS WILL TAKE YOU DOWN IN GDP ONE DAY
Throw all pakistani out of US .They dont deserve to live inthis free country
as afgani i know pakistan fired 1st ... we afgans are sick of these pakistanies creating problems in our country
fvk you pakistan
you afghans are creating problems in Pakistan.you were homeless when Russia attacked you and Pakistan was your second home then..Remember it
just leave us afganis alone .. pakistan is curse for everyone ..we know how you raped and killed bangalis ,balcohies and now you pple are fvking us over .. we dont need you ..GET THE FVK OUT OF PAKISTAN .. you converties fake muslims
u guys plus Indians are the really hell on the planet we only save u and give u refuge poor AFG OK
i have seen ur post filled with lies you know that pakistan is ZERO and all you write is crap .. your country is done
jinnah is crying in his grave .. LEAVE US AFGANS ALONE
2 most growing economy and we are mess lol
stupid america
I am stationed here in Afghanistan and I can tell you that Pakis are the ones causing the problems. NATO took fire from the Pakistan border and returned fire. That is how we do business, especially after COIN was implemented. We can't fire first; we have to be fired upon before we can fire. How convenient it is for the Pakis to put all of the blame on the U.S. and NATO when they fired first forcing us to fire upon those soldiers. If Pakistan actually stopped playing both sides of the fence and prosecuted their own soldiers that are causing problems, NATO wouldn't have to fire on those who fire on us. Eff Pakistan and eff the Pakis!
All a piece of crap. You people just realised that you have lost the war and now you are trying to blame it on Pakistan. Eff U. Eff Americans
PAK IS SATAN
THESE PPLE SELL THERE WOMEN TO INDIANS AND ARABS
PAKIES MARRY THERE SISTERS
PAKIES WOULD EAT SHIAT FOR MONEY
PAKIES ARE KNOW FOR KILLING BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOR MONEY AND POWER
Sseriously who gives a fvk ... pakistan is curse ...
Why are soo many Indians in the US? I don't mean the native Americans, I mean the stinky ones. Why are you here?
I believe NATO that Pak fired first. Pak got away killing NATO and Americans before but this time, they were responded to. NATO should fight Pak without fear.
We should bomb India and rid the world of those smelly roaches once and for all!!!!!!!!
America fucking country .... fuck fuck fuck u .... We will defend "PAKISTAN" to the last drop of blood ... mind it NATO & America ...
The US needs to do the right thing.
Sever all ties to Pakistan immediatlyt.
All Pakis out of the US NOW, they don't belong in a democracy.
Absolutely. Pakistanis are a very treacherous, backstabbing, hate filled people–and that hate all stems from their religion. They hate Hindus for being polytheistic, Jews and Christians for not following their version of the Abrahamic god. Very backwards people indeed, worse than a sht eating pig at times based on the comments made by the Pakistani trolls on this board.
SS. Seems to me like you are only voicing your fears.
bro our religion is full of peace and harmony ..if u go through the holy BOOK you will got to know all the things ..and yes we the hatered people if and when only when there is one Odd word and shit happening against Islam ..So just stop abusing other and see yourself first .. you piece of shit
@furqan
yeah muhhammad displayed his peaceful ways by invading mecca and teaching people that 72 geek-sqaud employees will await them if they blow themselves up
i have hit a few paki chicks, they are ok, the rest, w88s
GWB, his Cabinet and the GOP should all be tried for treason for abandoning and prolonging the Afghan war to start their illegitimate Iraqi war. These casualties would have been avoided because if the GOP had done the right thing, the Afghan war would have been over and that country would have been stabilized at least five years ago. Furthermore, the incompetent American iditiots who keep electing these sorry politicians should be sent to an asylum.
The fact that Pakistan did not cheer Osama's demise, and thank the U.S., speaks volumes as to where they stand and whose side they are actually on. Pakistan is an enemy of the free world and international community. They stand alone.
no, one country is with PAK ie china
Kerry, you are a retard. Indian's take our jobs and have made a mockery out of our H1 visa systems. They file fake applications and then forge their resumes when they are on US Soil. I say, BOMB INDIA!!!!!!!