Commanders view of Afghan drawdown not as simple as Huntsman and Romney say
November 22nd, 2011
10:44 PM ET

Commanders view of Afghan drawdown not as simple as Huntsman and Romney say

By CNN Pentagon Producer Larry Shaughnessy

GOP candidates Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman offered differing views Tuesday nighton how a president should reach decisions about matters such as U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Romney made it clear he believes a president should listen to his commanders on the ground when making such a decision. "The commander-in-chief makes that decision based upon the input of people closest to the ground," Romney said during Tuesday night's CNN Republican presidential debate.

Huntsman said just listening to the commanders on the ground would be a mistake for a president.

"I also remember when people listened to the generals in 1967 and we heard a certain course of action in South Asia that didn't serve our interests very well. The president is the commander-in-chief and ought to be informed by a lot of different voices, including of those of his generals on the ground."

While they differed on how much influence the generals on the ground should have, they both implied that the president's military advisers speak with one voice on these matters. That's not always the case.

In December of 2009, President Barack Obama was mulling over how many "surge" troops to send to Afghanistan. Shortly before he made his decision, CNN sources said Gen. Stanley McChrystal, then U.S. commander in Afghanistan, was recommending 40,000 more troops. Obama decided to send 30,000.

Last summer when Obama was trying to decide how many U.S. troops to pull out of Afghanistan, then-Gen. David Patraeus, McChrystal's replacement in Afghanistan, was recommending, according to sources, pulling out 5,000 troops. Then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates was looking at a 10,000-troop pullout. Obama decided to pullout 33,000 by the end of next summer.

After the president's announcement, Petraeus admitted the number was higher than he thought should be removed. "The ultimate decision was a more aggressive formulation, if you will, in terms of the timeline than what we had recommended," Petraeus said last June.

Even Adm. Michael Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, thought the president's withdrawal plans were more bold than he wanted to see. "What I can tell you is, the president's decisions are more aggressive and incur more risk than I was originally prepared to accept," Mullen said.

Had President Obama listened to just his commanders in Afghanistan, as Romney seemed to indicate, the nature of the war in Afghanistan could have looked very different over then next year.

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      I'm not a bit surprised by this. Not in the least. It's the lame etsram media who's misinformed (mal-informed), out of touch, misguided, Based on their behavior of recent years, I have to say misanthropic.The media's real job is to make money for their employer in order to remain employed. We all know good news does not sell. Neither does living a harmonious life. Hence, they're running around like a bunch of sharks with untreated ADHD.In their hearts, they must know the US would be much better off had Obama not been elected. They'll eventually turn on him, but only with a GOP opponent whose behavior they can anticipate and look to them for guidance.Frankly, there isn't a republican candidate who fits their bill, so they keep the heat on them all so voters won't coalesce behind any particular candidate.The sad part is this could have been Steve Forbes' year.

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    LBJ + mcnamara quit after US forces annihilated the VC during TET listened to cronkite+ press declare defeat when he should have turned troops north + crushed the retreating NVA obama as all but done the same in IRAQ now let IRAN walk in unopposed. AFGHANISTAN cut a deal with the tribal chiefs arm them against taliban if they won't play ball forget karzai+ kabul get the hell out of there after a sweep thru pakistan to crush haqqani

    November 23, 2011 at 3:52 am | Reply
    • v_mag

      Uh, no. The tet offensive was a watershed victory for the VC, and they did not get annihilated. Cronkite was correct. We could have stayed many years more and the end result would have been the same. Now, we do business with Vietnam. It wasn't a disaster to leave; it was a disaster for us to be there in the first place. The exact same applies in Afghanistan, where all our efforts, all the money spent, all the lives lost, will be in vain. You cannot change Afghanistan into a democracy or a puppet state of the US.

      November 23, 2011 at 9:25 am | Reply
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  11. getoverit

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    • Lion

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    More liberals spouting about a subject they know nothing about. Shut up already!

    November 23, 2011 at 2:49 am | Reply
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      Another wingnut trying to suppress free speech. Take your own advice.

      November 23, 2011 at 9:26 am | Reply
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    November 23, 2011 at 2:19 am | Reply
  15. Joseph

    Hi Jerry,
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    • Mick-In-Afghanstan

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  16. airforcekody

    Romney is right. Make your military decisions based off of your commanders and troops that are there. Don't listen to other politicians and/or the public. They don't know what's going on over there, they don't know whats best. Listen to your ground commanders.

    November 22, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Reply
    • ddblah

      Then, we do we need a president as commander in chief. Just let the military decide what to do.

      That's a true lead-from-behind.

      November 23, 2011 at 1:18 am | Reply
    • v_mag

      That's what LBJ did for a long time, and it caused the worse military debacle in American history. His commanders lied to him because they were caught in an unwinnable war and didn't want their legacy to be defeat. Everybody has an angle, and the president can't get his information and advice solely based on one interested party or another. The job of the president is to make the best decision for America, not follow the military's orders.

      November 23, 2011 at 9:32 am | Reply
  17. jerry

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    November 22, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Reply
    • ddblah

      You wishful thinking!

      Nobody can match his accomplishment in national security. Smart policy all around. Let the arm chair quarterbacks scream all they want. They just can't match.

      November 23, 2011 at 1:20 am | Reply
    • v_mag

      Bush's record: 911, 2 useless wars started, billions wasted, Bin Laden allowed to live, torture instituted and defended.

      Obama's record: Bin Laden dead, numerous plots foiled, Ghadafi dead, ending Iraq war.

      I'll take Door Number 2, please.

      November 23, 2011 at 9:35 am | Reply

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