August 15th, 2011
08:58 AM ET

Lingering mystery of whether China got to examine US stealth chopper

New reports again raise the specter that Pakistan gave Chinese military engineers access to examine the wreckage of the U.S. stealth helicopter that crashed during the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.

Pakistani intelligence operatives likely gave the Chinese access to the wreckage, the New York Times reported, citing American officials and other intelligence sources.  A US official conceded to CNN National Security Producer Pam Benson that the US has  "reason to suspect China was given access but we cannot confirm it definitively. We have strong suspicions.”

The Chinese engineers were able to photograph the wreckage and take samples of the stealth skin that helps the chopper avoid radar detection, intelligence sources told the Financial Times.

When the aircraft crashed during the raid that killed the al Qaeda leader in May, Navy SEALs destroyed most of it to protect the technology. But the tail section remained mostly intact and it was that area that the Chinese engineers examined, according to the New York Times report.

It took several weeks before the helicopter wreckage was returned to the United States and even back in May there were reports and denials that the Chinese had been given a look.

U.S. intelligence is basing its opinion that the Chinese got access to the stealth copter on intercepted phone conversations, the Times reported.

A Pakistani senior intelligence officials denies the story outright to CNN's Islamabad correspondent Reza Sayah.

"This is story is unsubstantiated and false. Such stories are counterproductive when it comes to US Pakistani relations," the ISI official said.

But aUS official tells was more a matter of "inference" but admitted it was "plausible" that Pakistan showed the helicopter to others.

Pakistani officials contacted by the New York Times refused comment on the matter. The Financial Times said a Pakistani official denied the accusations.

Both newspapers noted that China and Pakistan enjoy a longstanding military relationship.

The raid that killed bin Laden, staged without informing Pakistan, stoked tensions between the U.S. and Pakistan.

In July, the U.S. said it was withholding $800 million in aid to Pakistan.

"They've taken some steps that have given us reason to pause on some of the aid which we're giving to the military, and we're trying to work through that," White House Chief of Staff William Daley said at the time.

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  1. Pernanopoup

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    August 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Reply
  2. rajeev


    August 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Reply
  3. rajeev

    August 19, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Reply
  4. sizwe

    800 mil???!!! don't we hav a debt to pay off

    August 19, 2011 at 1:29 am | Reply
  5. james stirk

    Of course they did, they have been sticking it to the U.S. ever since we got there but our worthless govt. chooses not to notice.

    August 18, 2011 at 11:33 am | Reply
  6. Ian

    I am sure , China need help from Russia and All Arabs nations to do teach of her blood mother feed 1 billion people chinese, that how they control to kill a baby girl limit born on times, so they keep china's boy alive to grow up to became red chinese army .... That I know , what china government try to do as plan crazy as bad things, I heard of china stealing a top secret and copy of U.S. business.... Because China not as smart enough , so they like to make Russia help them as baby learning , it crazy... Russia will soon be dead as kill from china will wipe off Russia land near cross a line of far East side too soon... God will know it , soon.....

    August 18, 2011 at 8:50 am | Reply
    • ...

      Wow...Please proof read your posts before you submit it... or if you can't, please go back to school...

      August 19, 2011 at 9:25 am | Reply
  7. josh

    not interesting

    August 17, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Reply
  8. Dr.BakroChod

    Paki fooled China. Paki gave Chinese military engineers a secret tour of their junk yard. Hillary is all smiling.

    August 17, 2011 at 7:14 am | Reply
  9. Dr.BakroChod

    Do Paki sell their mother for money ? Who wants burqa ? America, your burqa secret is safe in Pakistan.

    August 17, 2011 at 7:08 am | Reply
  10. Dr.BakroChod

    China can build this stealth chopper very cheap. Check out Walmart.

    August 17, 2011 at 7:01 am | Reply
  11. Dr.BakroChod

    Thank Allah, China did not examine top secret US stealth chopper. Thank you Pakistan. Now you are a true ally on war on terror.

    August 17, 2011 at 6:58 am | Reply
    • Ian

      That China will have a bigger World War 3.... They so evil , and they do up something as plan... Listen guys love chinese people not as government... Okay, look at the demon of china full red flag as red blood as hell... U.S. will have time to beat them anytime , when God will know it , too soon....

      August 18, 2011 at 8:32 am | Reply
  12. HereYouGo

    Well, isn't this Chopper one of those imports from China in the first place?

    August 16, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  13. Goblue

    If that stealth chopper crashed then China can have it cause obviously it's no good. If we really didn't want the chopper to be seen it would of been destroyed properly. Anyway all this is to take attention away from the Chinook that was shot down a week ago!!

    August 16, 2011 at 3:34 am | Reply
  14. josh

    Did US pay for the examination?

    August 15, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Reply
    • Jay

      Probably not. China technically did pay for part of the helicopter through their purchases of US government debt...

      August 18, 2011 at 1:24 am | Reply
  15. FightChina

    "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." Winston Churchill

    August 15, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Reply
    • George W. Bush

      Yes, my son. Go forth and vanquish our enemies. We shall have those heathens tremble before us before the dawn of the day.

      August 15, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Reply
    • ukt87

      August 15, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Reply
      • FightChina

        "You are young, my son, and, as the years go by, time will change and even reverse many of your present opinions. Refrain therefore awhile from setting yourself up as a judge of the highest matters." Plato

        August 15, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Yakobi

      What a hindu (crook) from hindered (gutter) land called India will not seek in his hindu (filthy) soul (desire)? first attack Pakistan and now attack China. Solve your problems yourself, America has done enough, if hindus (croocks) are hindus (chicken) they need to lay under Pakistan and China and lay some eggs to solve their own problems.

      August 15, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Reply
    • Grizzly

      Better dead then red

      August 16, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Reply
  16. ukt87

    I know where that Stealth variant for JF 17 is going to be coming from 😀

    August 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Reply
  17. bawse

    who wrote this article? poorly written...

    August 15, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  18. Pakistan

    Once again the world have witnessed America the evil empire.. how they used other countries for their interest and afterward just trash that country away. They did it with Bin Laden and his gangs..back then Bin laden was a hero according the CIA. Then they used Saddam in Iraq to fight Iran. When a country finally realized that it has been used .. it's usually too late..In this case poor Pakistan were so loyal to the american till the very end.. Even their president almost got killed 10 times for being friends with the American. Pakistan is in deep trouble now their country is in a civil war with other Pakistanis and America accused them of harboring terrorist. I guess Pakistan and the world should be the last country to learn the lesson to never trust America. An evil empire that dying...for all the atrocities for all the evil things they have done.

    August 15, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Reply
    • booger

      And you think China, Russia or arab countries any better in treating other countries? or they just use their resources and leave? It is called human nature my friend. No body care about YOU! except your family.

      August 15, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Reply
    • Yakobi

      Cheated once, crooks fault, cheated twice your fault, it is not hindu (crook) Americ's fault but fault of Pakistanis ruled by hindu (criminal) rulers. remember hindu (crooks) have no sympothy for cheated one, only when they are stoped from cheating. Treat a hindu (crook) like a hindu (crook), show no sympothy to a hindu (criminal), kick his (but-s) hard. Only than America and American hidus (criminals) will learn to respect Pakistan.

      August 15, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Reply
      • FightChina

        Hey yakobi, they let you out?! Where have you been you (stupid fool)? When will you realize nobody cares what you have to say about your 360 degrees (total crap)

        August 15, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
      • Yakobi

        I am glad you recognized hindu me (stupid), I have been around, problem is with your hinduism (stupidity), you had no sense to reconize me hindu (ignorent).

        August 15, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • WorldWide

      Bite me Mr. Pakistan. lol Your country is like a cancer to the world!

      August 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • Ian

      Sorry guys, U.S. not doing anythings happened , but they attack in N.Y.City... We have right to go to war.... Because they act of War .... Paketain don't know about no reason think of we do, huh? We going to stop them as period...

      August 18, 2011 at 9:01 am | Reply
  19. Tom A

    The assumption here seems to be that the Chinese would be completely clueless without this alleged help from the Pakistanis... However, its very probable that the Chinese have multiple Intelligence agents or people on their payroll who have access to DOD and quite possibly this technology. They also probably have people able to hack into DOD computers and look at everything that is stored electronically, as well. It would be tough to say if they def. have info on this, but the fact that the Chinese "may" know some of our military 'secrets' if a bit naive. Lets assume that they have a least a certain amount of info...

    August 15, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Reply
  20. JP

    Seriously iwl4ever, what don't you get from Pakistan? You user their airbases for drone strikes, you have the largest presence of CIA personal on ground in a foreign country in Pakistan, you kill civilians in drone strikes with hardly a protest (fake at best) from your hand picked stooges in Pak Govt and Army, you get use of sea port and supply routes to Afghanistan, you get Intelligence cooperation, you get presence of 100,000 Pak army personnel on Afghanistan border, Pakistan loses Billions of dollars every year for your so called War on Terror, Pakistan has got itself into a civil war to fight your war. Seriously, how thankless can you be?
    In return you accuse us of having harboured OBL? That's ridiculous!
    It's time Pakistan started looking after its own interests in the region and good bye to America's war!!
    Oh, and please keep your aid with you that you give to your puppets in Pakistan. Pakistani civilians don't get it and they in fact despise it!

    And Omar, come back when you're grown up and have the maturity to reason.

    August 15, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Reply
    • Rat Trap


      August 15, 2011 at 4:34 pm | Reply
    • open ur eyes

      you really believe that rulers of Pakistan are not cashing in from this? Why do you think US is in debt? It is because of the money they give your country...and in return you harbor a murderer. So hypocritical to call one person a murderer for killing innocents but another a hero for the same thing. This world is messed up and only has one place to go....hell.

      August 15, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Reply
  21. omar

    Pakistan is India's shit. Let's just fucking nuke those bastards.

    August 15, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Reply
    • Leon

      yeah lets just do that, lets nuke'em.... WTF is this COD u dipsh!t? GTFO of here you little ignorant piece of sh!t.

      August 15, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  22. iwl4ever

    What kind of policies are y'all negotiating because this is getting out of hand we shouldn't be sending them anything. Obviously they are not a country that can be trusted what happened to for the good of the people and this cannot be good for us. these people are in no way to be trusted but we keep doing it.

    August 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Reply
  23. iwl4ever

    Why didn't they just bring the chopper back home? What will happen between the US and China now that they have our secret weapons? Well, I guess that we just are going to have to come up with something new, because you know they will be making some of their own just like that war ship that they are building as well. Does no one see what China is doing. Next they will be coming over here and it won't be so nice.

    August 15, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Reply
    • cyclobrown

      yea right the commies are comin. the red horde is upon us. bla bla bla

      September 12, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Reply
  24. JP

    Good for Pakistan. Stick it to the stupid Americans. They were the ones who were incompetent enough to let Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in the first place. Accusing Pakistan is obviously just blame old American tactic after failure!

    August 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Reply
    • Milo

      Good luck in your quest for global Sharia law.

      August 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Reply
  25. etatfood

    In this world you've to give up something, if you want to get something.... got to pay the price!!!

    August 15, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Reply
  26. george

    For the right price they will. That's for sure. They've been giving refuge to Bin Laden at the same time receiving billion$ from the US to fight terrorism. The question is: Can you trust the Pakistani gov't?? I think they already lost credibility.

    August 15, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Reply
  27. yep

    they would hide Bin Laden for years.. but NO WAY would they let china take a look at our choppers blown off tail. no way thats just wrong of them.

    August 15, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Reply

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