October 8th, 2013
02:43 PM ET

Outrage builds over lapse in funding for families of fallen heroes

By Jamie Crawford

A lapse in benefits normally paid to the families of U.S. service members killed in combat is adding to the already existing anger over the partial federal government shutdown.

With a good majority of the Pentagon workforce returning to work despite large-scale furloughs hitting other federal agencies, the benefits typically paid to families of the fallen have yet to be restored during the current government shutdown.

"This particular situation is unthinkable," Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC), said on the House floor Tuesday. "A great injustice is being done to our service members and their families."

Among the benefits being withheld are a $100,000 cash payment typically paid to a service member's family within three days of their death in the combat zone. Burial benefits, which include reimbursement for recovery, care, as well as the funeral and interment of remains are also included in those benefits.

A gratuity for travel to funeral or memorial services, or for travel to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware where the remains of the fallen typically go to upon return to the United States, are also included in the benefits to family members.

For people like Amy Neiberger-Miller, who lost her brother Chris in Iraq, the loss of these benefits to families comes as they are living their" worst nightmare."

For "families with limited means, these benefits are especially critical," said Neiberger-Miller, who now works T.A.P.S., a support network for families of the fallen.

In addition to the death benefits, emergency funding used to support certain intelligence activities, as well as certain funding for commanders on the ground, are also currently unfunded according to the Pentagon.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel noted the lapse in benefits in a meeting with top Defense Department officials on Monday, and assured them "he would work closely with them to address these challenges," according to a written readout of the meeting.

In a letter to Hagel, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) said the lapse in funding was due to a "careless legal interpretation" by the Pentagon to a resolution passed by Congress prior to the shutdown that called for the continuation of all benefits to military families.

"I am at a loss about why [the Department of Defense] did not take a more active role in notifying Congress and insisting that changes in law occur immediately," Hunter wrote. "And until a correction is made to the law, it is up to you to make the appropriate judgment based on a more correct interpretation."

Republicans are drafting legislation that would restore death benefit payments, which the Pentagon says were frozen under the shutdown, to the survivors of service members killed in action, House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers told CNN.

Discord over the lapse in funding was seemingly bipartisan.

"I want immediately for the $100,000 death benefit and flight to Dover to be immediately given to these families," Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D.TX) said on the House floor Tuesday. "I am reaching out to the Pentagon, writing a letter and asking that this be immediately resolved."

Fisher House, a group that offers assistance to families of troops in need, has offered an advance grant to such families during the shutdown, according to a letter from Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) to Hagel.

A spokeswoman for Fisher House said the group would work out a repayment plan with the families once the government begins to reimburse the death benefits.

“We’re also already helping several of them with free airline tickets, and of course, most will be staying at our Dover Fisher House,” the spokeswoman said in a written statement. “If the house is full, we’ll pay the hotel bill and any incidentals.”

–CNN's Barbara Starr, Deirdre Walsh and Jake Tapper contributed to this report.

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  1. Jeremy

    I'm amazed, I must say. Seldom do I encounter a blog that's both equally educative and interesting, and let me tell you, you have hit the nail on the head. The issue is something too few men and women are speaking intelligently about. I am very happy that I came across this in my search for something regarding this.

    March 24, 2014 at 5:56 pm | Reply
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    October 29, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Reply
  3. CMI

    Who cares about a few bucks. The outrage should be that Obama sent these guys over there to get killed for Haliburton. That's the freakin outrage!

    October 9, 2013 at 10:17 pm | Reply
  4. Robert W Davis

    Another fine Example of our presidents spread the pain policy now aiming at our fallen heroes and their familys. this administration is is! a joke.

    October 9, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Reply
  5. art

    Hey James Carter 39 I bet your wife or Husband is twice as fat as MIchelle .So keep your offensive rhetoric to your self in what ever pathetic red state you call home.

    October 9, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Reply
  6. kgala

    The Fallen Heroes fall a second time.

    October 9, 2013 at 11:12 am | Reply
  7. T. Bagger

    For all those tea-billybaggers saying "shut it down", you got your wish. It's shutdown. Now stop complaining.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:58 am | Reply
    • Bogus9644

      Ur not to smart if u think this is due to 17% shut down. This is the president trying to make it hurt because he is not getting his way.

      October 9, 2013 at 11:33 am | Reply
      • steve

        Nope can't have it both ways bagger. Your type wants the government shut down, don't try to pick andchoose whats politically corrrect.

        October 9, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
      • steve

        Nope can't have it both ways bagger. Your type wants the government shut down, don't try to pick and choose whats politically corrrect.

        October 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • M J Thomas

      dirT. Bagger- I say furlough the president and congress. AND how in the world or why in the world can we afford to send the defense secretary there and yet we can't get the families there?

      October 9, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Reply
  8. Msgt(ret)

    I'm a retired/disabled veteran. If the Government won't take care of them then we will take care of our own! email me the contact information for the funeral homes and I will help with the funeral expenses.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:41 am | Reply
  9. mjbrin

    Now are the Libertarians suggesting that the churches come forward and pay for these expenses?

    October 9, 2013 at 9:39 am | Reply
  10. Charles

    The claim wasn't denied, you bunch of lying damn morons, it just hasn't been processed. As if there aren't enough problems in the government to deal with, you morons post headlines just to incite anger and frustration knowing damn well the claim hasn't been denied.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:39 am | Reply
    • mjbrin

      very true. it will get paid. plus all funeral homes know this and aren't worried. All airlines know this and aren't worried. All hotels aren't worried and aren't worried.
      The GOP is trying to spin things again to produce fear and split the country even further apart.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:43 am | Reply
      • mjbrin

        opps, typed too fast! correction.....all hotels know this and aren't worried

        October 9, 2013 at 9:44 am |
    • meyati

      The claim wasn't processed. A charity is loaning the money to the families.

      By the way-how long are the families supposed to wait until they can bury their loved ones. Have you called an airline and asked if they would extend credit? How about trying to give the heroes a military funeral?

      October 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm | Reply
    • Ponga

      My nephew was KIA in Iraq in April 3, 2003. He was a from 3rd Tanger Batt as well. It is very expensive and my church members donated money to defray the cost of our travel and be with the Ranger who gave his all. The Commander in Chief choose not to help and why should he, he does not know the military sacrifice. GOD Help US.

      October 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Reply
  11. James Carter 39

    That's great, Dems. . . punish selective victims. But, we can keep the golf courses and Camp David open for the Maoist in Chief, and we can drag Michelle's fat a55 all over the nation?????? Stinking Bolsheviks!

    October 9, 2013 at 9:38 am | Reply
    • mjbrin

      and the House's gym is still open for business.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:44 am | Reply
    • Mark

      Reading comprehension is not you strong suit is it ??? I

      October 9, 2013 at 9:46 am | Reply
  12. Raymond James

    The Tea Party wanted to shut down the government and they got what they wanted why the noise?

    Turns out we need the Federal Employees who process the checks after all. Who could have imagined that if you shut down the government it would have such negative impact on American Families?

    Evidently anyone but the tea party and the GOP. American Families who rely on WIC to feed their baby are soon going to be hurting. Our Federal Employees want to work but will not be paid after the fact to sit at home.

    Time to end this shut down.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:36 am | Reply
  13. Allen Wingfield

    I am so sick and tired of Chicago politics. If we ever elect another Chicago politician we all need our head examined. So welfare and foodstamps continue, but pay for retired, disabled and killed military does not continue. What is wrong with this picture. Just makes me sick.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:32 am | Reply
  14. Obama & Reid blocking aid to military families

    The GOP has passed legislation to fund aid and payments to military families - but Obama and Reid refuse to vote on it as their large egos are in the way.

    Meanwhile Obama has given a 1 year delay to large corporations for implementing Obamacare, but will not extend the same option to individual middle class ... SHAMEFUL

    October 9, 2013 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • Mark

      WRONG !!!! That bill was passed and signed. The Pentagon said it didn't cover death benefits. Congress said it was supposed to.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:48 am | Reply
  15. Bogus9644

    The president is in charge of the DOD and drop the ball. He will be know as the worst president in history. Way to go Obama supporters you put him in office.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:26 am | Reply
    • Organic1

      At least your screen handle is accurate.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:28 am | Reply
      • Bogus9644

        At lest I had some thing intelligent to say.

        October 9, 2013 at 11:37 am |
      • Thomas White

        At least I can write using standard English.

        October 9, 2013 at 1:20 pm |
    • Raymond James

      The Tea Party wanted to shut down the government and they got what they wanted why the noise?

      Turns out we need the Federal Employees who process the checks after all. Who could have imagined that if you shut down the government it would have such negative impact on American Families?

      Evidently anyone but the tea party and the GOP. American Families who rely on WIC to feed their baby are soon going to be hurting. Our Federal Employees want to work but will not be paid after the fact to sit at home.

      Time to end this shut down.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:37 am | Reply
    • Raymond James

      The Tea Party wanted to shut down the government and they got what they wanted why the noise?

      Turns out we need the Federal Employees who process the checks after all. Who could have imagined that if you shut down the government it would have such negative impact on American Families?

      Evidently anyone but the tea party and the GOP. American Families are affected. Our Federal Employees want to work and are going to be paid to sit at home. Work not getting done while people want to work and we pay them not to work.

      Time to end this shut down.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:39 am | Reply
  16. knklhead

    Next to the photos of families grieving the death of their soldier please put a photo of the Republicans smiling with drunken giddiness about their government shutdown idea ... Republicans OWN this shutdown.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:25 am | Reply
  17. Bob C.

    The government simply isn't designed to stop certain services while allowing others to continue. There isn't some "non-essential" switch that gets thrown to cleanly stop all of them. It's all done by hand, so mistakes are going to happen.

    If you think this is bad, just wait until we hit the debt ceiling. It'll take an Act of God to make sure all the Social Security checks get sent out correctly.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:23 am | Reply
  18. Thomas White

    Congress should be most ashamed for continuing to fund a war that resulted in the senseless death of these four young people in the first place.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:21 am | Reply
    • Steve

      The GOP doesn't care. They are calling this a Slimdown. If you think they care then you are brainwashed.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:24 am | Reply
      • Thomas White

        I know that's true. And it would have been better if I'd said that Congress should be most ashamed for continuing to fund a senseless war that resulted in the death of those four Americans. The placement of the word 'senseless' was inadvertent.

        October 9, 2013 at 11:41 am |
  19. George

    Now let's be honest here a bit. There is no funeral home in the country that woudl refuse to handle a funeral and get paid later. Is it REALLY necessary that the got. pay for a family to travel to Dover? Is it really necessary that a family receive $ 100,000.00 within THREE days of death? Let's just get a little reasonable here.

    October 9, 2013 at 9:17 am | Reply
    • Steve

      Like I said... Republicans don't care.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:25 am | Reply
    • mjbrin

      I was wondering the same thing.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • James K

      Are you serious? I mean did you really go this direction? When you pull your head out of your ass you should apologize. Not only did they not get whats rightfully theirs, there is no funding for travel, burial expenses, etc.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:29 am | Reply
    • Michael

      Yes, it's important for family members to travel to Dover AFB to be with the remains upon return to the US. That $$ likely allows persons that could not otherwise afford it to be there. Put yourself in their shoes. If you have served, you might have a deeper understanding and empathy for military families having to deal with the loss of a loved one, regardless of one's feelings towards the conflict proper. It would be an incredible injustice to not bear witness at Dover. These service people sacrificed their lives to protect and serve. It is the very least that we, as a country, can do ...

      October 9, 2013 at 9:31 am | Reply
    • Larry

      Reply to Goerge about being reasonable. Coming from a veteran of over 20 years service with the US Army, you damn right it is reasonable to provide all benefits to the families of KIA soldiers. Was it reasonable for the service member to get killed in an undeclared war trying to protect fools like you?

      October 9, 2013 at 9:34 am | Reply
    • Allen Wingfield

      Well George, wonder what you would do if it were your wife, son or daughter? I just dont understand it. The left can have so much compassion that they build a welfare state that will destroy humanity as we know it, but then can be so cruel when they face someone that has a different opinion. Whats wrong if I have different opinion as to what is important. Why does that mean you have to try and destroy me? I truely wish we could just carve up the country and let the left live with themselves, then everything can be free for them and they will live happily ever after.

      October 9, 2013 at 9:41 am | Reply
  20. jimstaro

    Shutdown: Those Served Feeling Shame?

    "If military action is worth our troops' blood, it should be worth our treasure, too" "not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

    Shutdown hurts benefits for heroes' grieving families

    The congress, especially those leading this shutdown and denying voting in the House, were warned this, and much more, would happen! It didn't nor doesn't faze the peoples representatives nor those they lead, they're cheering the government shutdown, like they did the 'free wars' and results from, those funds still mostly borrowed, on and wanting to continue. Wait till the country defaults and see what happens.

    Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., warned about ahead of time on Sept. 30. "There are other unthinkable outcomes of a government shutdown on our security. Family members, military members who die in combat would not receive death benefits during a shutdown," said Levin.

    The american public served doesn't feel any 'shame', they just like to use words to make others think they do, like actions and the words with flag waving patriotism!!!

    Hypocrisy and easy lies, words used, are the norm in this society, while always there it was once it was once abhorred and those doing were quickly made to feel the guilt of doing, no more! And the growth of comes with the same in some forced on all religious ideology of a christian nation, apparently having no more fear of the god they say, words again, they believe in!

    They love their wars of choice, the recent quickly abandoning the missions of why we sent our military into Afghanistan after 9/11, to be 'free'! Have yet to pay for either recent war, a decade plus and that's added to ignoring the issues of those sent, i.e. PTS for decades, Agent Orange for decades, Gulf War Syndrome for decades, many issues coming from these two like they came from our others to name just a very few. While having flag waving patriotic wars but grossly under funding it's responsibility the Veterans Administration, which costs much more to fix problems from that under funding during and after wars for the many years later especially. While one political ideology continues it's want to privatize for corporate profit that responsibility, just as they have with the wars, i.e. the rapid built up extremely costly private merc army, and our security privatizing that with the back round checks to work for the privatized government contractors and so much more!

    "12 years also is a long time. We now have a lifetime responsibility to a generation of service members, veterans and their families." Dr. Jonathan Woodson 11 Sep. 2013: With 9/11 Came Lifetime Responsibility

    "Why in 2009 were we still using paper?" VA Assistant Secretary Tommy Sowers "When we came in, there was no plan to change that; we've been operating on a six month wait for over a decade." 27 March 2013

    WHY? GOOD QUESTION THOSE SERVED SHOULD ANSWER!

    'Shame' for this, Not, as it to will be quickly forgotten after the spinning of blame towards everyone else but themselves, and especially led by the media and the politics that brought us the recent 'free' wars and very long occupations far from these shores and with multiple tours in!!

    DeJa-Vu all over again! Seen this well over four decades now, it never changes, and there's No Shame!

    USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71

    October 9, 2013 at 9:16 am | Reply
    • jimstaro

      "They took hostages by shutting down the government and now they're releasing one hostage at a time,"
      "Lets bring the U.S. Government to it's knee's just like 9/11"

      al Qaeda Ideology in U.S. Congress, with christian 'taliban' ideology throughout the country?! And House Speaker Sen. Calgary Cruz bucks for leadership of!
      Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S. Monday, November 1, 2004 Posted: 8:07 PM EST

      snip
      ""We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.""
      snip
      ""As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America." ""

      USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71

      October 9, 2013 at 9:16 am | Reply
  21. Whatever

    This isn't Obama's fault. This isn't the GOP's fault. this is the fault of ALL YOU IDIOTS WHO KEEP VOTING AND SUPPORTING THESE TWO STUPID ELITIST PARTIES INTO OFFICE.

    October 9, 2013 at 8:56 am | Reply
  22. mjbrin

    so what needs to happen for those families is the congress members can donate their salaries to pay for these expenses. done

    October 9, 2013 at 8:27 am | Reply
    • BubblesB

      Amen.

      October 9, 2013 at 8:36 am | Reply
  23. Shecky

    This is all Obama's doing. Now he's using scare tactics to freak people out.

    October 9, 2013 at 8:14 am | Reply
    • lean6

      You've got a clear case of Stockholm Syndrome.

      October 9, 2013 at 8:44 am | Reply
      • knklhead

        Perfect analogy!

        October 9, 2013 at 9:31 am |
    • shdwds

      The only scarey freaks are the TPer's! Wake up America!

      October 9, 2013 at 8:50 am | Reply
      • U.S.M.C. 1371

        Yep Obama signed off on a rally yesterday but screws the families of our fallen. And you support that?

        Keep up the good work Tea party...

        October 9, 2013 at 9:08 am |
      • John

        The house passed a bill that would fund this and it sits in the senate.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:16 am |
  24. srcactus

    Inept, unpatriotic, incompetent, to hurt the families of our returning military that paid the ultimate price for this country.. But the Political jerks were able to play their games. Note worthy: The Pentagon on Sunday called back to work most of its roughly 400,000 civilian employees, based on administration lawyers’ legal interpretation of the recent government slimdown.
    The order was given by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, five days after roughly 800,000 federal workers were sent home after Congress failed to reach a deal to fund the government.

    October 9, 2013 at 8:04 am | Reply
  25. Free Man in the Republic of Texas

    "I" am Commander in Chief of The Democrat Party FIRST
    The military can sit down and shut up.
    "I" am the keeper of compassion.
    TRUST "ME"

    October 9, 2013 at 7:17 am | Reply
  26. robert.preston

    The Democratic administration is doing a swell job, doncha think? The chief executive, who campaigned as a great collaborator who would get both sides to negotiate, is saying "My way or the highway" while countless American lives are upset and traumatized. He's supposed to be the leader - not the Democrats' flunky boy. Holding up a CR is a very old, tried and true way to get the Administration to negotiate. When it was used with Clinton and the government shut down, we didn't see any of these spiteful acts such as the shutdown of national memorials. BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT SHUT DOWN! Obama and his White House full of weasels couldn't care less about the American people.

    October 9, 2013 at 3:50 am | Reply
    • lj

      This is not President Obama's fault. Every one are skirtting around the main problems within our country(home). These problems started long before he got into office. I am a veteran and I can't believe what is happening to every true American that had great grands that worked sunup to sundown to make sure their families will always have and be a home of plenty. I see over 40,000 homeless veterans in my surrounding areas and they don't receive anything. No assistance nor a helping hand to get up and be the man that fought to defend this country. Watch I do see if these intruders in our home stealing us blind . We all need to ask how can we as a country have over 40 million extra people here and we not be the most thriving country in the world? We should be bo!oming but instead we are broke. Why? Most come here as intruders that come to rob steal kill take and manipulate. They have taken everything from us Americans. They have our jobs and don't help pay the bills. I have been enteracting with some only to find out that they pay for nothing. We Americans are walking around with S's on our foreheads "Stuck on Stupid". We are fighting over money when we are taking total care and spending trillions on people that shouldn't be here in our home. We give them all our money by paying for all the births of their children which average 12-25. They are over populating us at our expense. For each birth $100,000 X 25, free medical for(12-25) $100,000. Foodstamps (12-25) $180,000. Welfare (12-25)

      October 9, 2013 at 5:28 am | Reply
      • Rob

        Typical Obama supporter response. You keep blaming other for Obama's incompetence. He has failed to deliver on any promises, shown himself to be the most secretive president ever etc. He has been in office for 6 years. He owns it now and no amount of blaming others works any longer.

        October 9, 2013 at 6:15 am |
      • susan maddern

        He is right about what he says we have people from other countrys and even mexico that get better care then there own amercians! As far as what is happening now the republicans aren't for the amercian people they are laying all this on Obama they arent any better than he is.Republicans are for the rich and always will be they do not care about the lower class person!

        October 9, 2013 at 8:38 am |
      • Lonewolf

        Typical Republican response. Cause the problems and blame the President every step of the way. You people believe everything your party wants you to hear. Stop watching FAUX News and maybe you will for once learn the truth. Maybe you already know the truth and like the fact that your party has been obstructionist from day one. You probably also like the fact that your party is the party of hate, anger, divisiveness and zero compassion.

        October 9, 2013 at 8:39 am |
      • U.S.M.C. 1371

        Troll please don't lie about military service. You can't put a sentence together much less pass the entrance exam.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • lj

      This is not President Obama's fault. Every one are skirtting around the main problems within our country(home). These problems started long before he got into office. I am a veteran and I can't believe what is happening to every true American that had great grands that worked sunup to sundown to make sure their families will always have and be a home of plenty. I see over 40,000 homeless veterans in my surrounding areas and they don't receive anything. No assistance nor a helping hand to get up and be the man that fought to defend this country. Watch I do see if these intruders in our home stealing us blind . We all need to ask how can we as a country have over 40 million extra people here and we not be the most thriving country in the world? We should be bo!oming but instead we are broke. Why? Most come here as intruders that come to rob steal kill take and manipulate. They have taken everything from us Americans. They have our jobs and don't help pay the bills. I have been enteracting with some only to find out that they pay for nothing. We Americans are walking around with S's on our foreheads "Stuck on Stupid". We are fighting over money when we are taking total care and spending trillions on people that shouldn't be here in our home. We give them all our money by paying for all the births of their children which average 12-25. They are over populating us at our expense. For each birth $100,000 X 25, free medical for(12-25) $100,000. Foodstamps (12-25) $180,000. Welfare (12-25) $120,000. WIC (12-25) $75,000. Free housing $230,000. Free utilities $25,000. Free dental $30,000 (braces extra). Free vision $15,000.(glasses extra). Free school lunches $60,000(25). American education X 25 $$$$$$$$$ (PRICELESS). Free college X25 $$$$$$$$$$(PRICELESS). They pay no income taxes due to large family but receive earned credit. Now these are women with husbands. I don't know any American that receive $1 in food stamps.We pay our way and all their way from children to grandchildren. These people each week for the last past 20 yrs line up at the Western Unions/ Money grams weekly sending US dollars out this country and we never see those dollars again. They all are doing it manipulating our system. They operate businesses illegally cause they have NO respect for us our laws nor system. They say that they will have our home without bloodshed I ask are we at war with these people. How can people that can only be guest in our home over populate the owners of the home? Why are we fighting when they are already receiving free healthcare while we pay? Shouldn't Americans be first/come first. Years from now our children and grands won't have a home because we pitched the keys to all whom cross our borders.

      October 9, 2013 at 6:01 am | Reply
      • P

        I totally agree its not our presidents fault its the people who have been in Congress and previous Presidents who have made some irresponsible laws. We have given away all our money to lazy people and just gifted them with our tax dollars. We support everyone else and barely can support our own families. The immigrants know how to work the system and transfer their businesses to family members every few years to avoid paying taxes on them. If we would revamp the immigration laws and take a firmer stand on those laws and enforce them maybe we can keep our country.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:41 am |
  27. Palle sol Fuoco

    "I am at a loss about why [the Department of Defense] did not take a more active role in notifying Congress and insisting that changes in law occur immediately," Hunter wrote. "And until a correction is made to the law, it is up to you to make the appropriate judgment based on a more correct interpretation."

    Tthe Tea Party types in Congress should have considered the impacts before refusing to fund the government. Now the Administration as the authority to decide which laws are to be followed. Sorry guys, it doesn't work that way.

    The GOP messed up big time now they are crying about how unfair all this is to military families. Tell your speaker to bring the Senate CR to the floor and vote. All of these problems will immediately be resolved.

    October 9, 2013 at 1:18 am | Reply
    • U.S.M.C. 1371

      Ok I will explain this so the Obama lovers can understand sorry I can't use crayons and draw you a picture. Every service member pays into A.F.I. which is armed forces insurance. It is self contained and self running so if payments are not being made it's because someone in the administration made the decision to use this for political gain and that person should be charged with treason.

      October 9, 2013 at 1:31 am | Reply
      • ShiverMeTimbers

        Don't count on those SS checks for too much longer by the way...

        October 9, 2013 at 5:18 am |
      • John Sandoval, USAF Ret.

        I served in the Air Force for 20 years. I never saw anything on my Leave and Earnings Statement called AFI or Armed Forces Insurance. Besides, the idea that a servicemember should have to pay into an insurance policy so that their body can be recovered for a proper and honorable burial disgusts me. If we have enough money to pay Congressmen and Senators close to $130,000 a year in salary then we can afford to take care of the families of our fallen.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • meyati

      The DOD and Obama's staff decided what support was. This is the first time this happened in a government shut down. Congress thought they were explicit enough-as a Republican and a Democrat were saying last week, we thought that full support of the military included the delivery of new Black Hawks, groceries for the families-need a place to shop, parts for repairs, etc. Now they know that Obama can't figure out that the dead need to be buried. Don't blame anybody in Congress, blame Obama and his administration.

      October 9, 2013 at 1:53 am | Reply
    • robert.preston

      The executive branch, namely Obama, directs the federal departments how they are to operate and what are essential services, what are not. Obama directed all departments to inflict as much pain as possible on the American people to put him in a better position to "win." That's what's coming out from various sources. I'm sure there will be lawsuits. Then we'll see where the blame really lies. It certainly doesn't lie with the Republicans. They are using the only tool available to try and stop our country from going bankrupt. Obama will not negotiate. Obama owns this mess, along with the failed economy, and a foreign policy directed by Putin wherein our ambassadors get murdered.

      October 9, 2013 at 3:35 am | Reply
  28. Ultimate Sacrafice

    IT IS THE SOLDIER

    It is the Soldier, not the minister
    Who has given us freedom of religion.

    It is the Soldier, not the reporter
    Who has given us freedom of the press.

    It is the Soldier, not the poet
    Who has given us freedom of speech.

    It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
    Who has given us freedom to protest.

    It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
    Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

    It is the Soldier, not the politician
    Who has given us the right to vote.

    It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
    Who serves beneath the flag,
    And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

    ©Copyright 1970, 2005 by Charles M. Province

    October 9, 2013 at 12:48 am | Reply
  29. sonotso

    No way Karma will pass this up.

    October 8, 2013 at 11:23 pm | Reply
  30. Eli

    The republicans don't care. They never did. This consequence was warned about REPEATEDLY for months before the shutdown. We all knew about it. It's not news. They just can't handle being the minority party. The votes are there to pass a clean CR today. This is all on the right wing but cases shoulders.

    October 8, 2013 at 10:12 pm | Reply
    • StanCalif

      Nobody wants "cuts"! Little by little those furloughed are returning to work, we need them!
      Here's a novel idea! How about we raise taxes on on the new billionaires we have been creating??? Many others deserve an increase in taxes! Our citizens (especially the well off) do nothing for the people they have successfully decimated! RAISE THE DAMN TAXES! Problem solved!

      October 8, 2013 at 11:18 pm | Reply
      • John

        Stop spending money we don't have.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:21 am |
    • robert.preston

      Thanks for voting for Obama, Random. Good name for you. Better than Bozo, although that fits too.

      October 9, 2013 at 3:37 am | Reply
  31. Chuck

    An Obvious Punishment for Americans

    This president is the worst thing that has happened to the US since Slavery

    October 8, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Reply
    • mbl

      My, my...typical conservative drivel. Cut spending EXCEPT...the list of EXCEPTs has been growing as this impasse goes on. Maybe they will finally realize that "Big Guvment" actually does many useful things for the people AND there is no such thing as a free lunch. We've got to pay for these things, not simply "starve the beast." This is becoming especially apparent in all of those red states which top the list of Romney's 47%ers which have been suckling on the government teat for decades while decrying its big spending ways. Time to face the fact that the government has been propping up your failed economic states far too long and it is time to sink or swim. Starve the beast indeed and watch your economies collapse.

      October 8, 2013 at 10:15 pm | Reply
      • U.S.M.C. 1371

        Is that why their was a protest in D.C. on immigration that was supported and the logistics paid for by this administration while our soldiers families suffer? Those evil R's!!!!!!!!!

        Keep up the good work

        October 9, 2013 at 5:29 am |
  32. America First

    The tea slags must be very proud.

    October 8, 2013 at 8:25 pm | Reply
    • Chuck

      Its all 100% on Obama and Reid

      October 8, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Reply
  33. Cosmo

    100 grand plus ...wow...They only paid like 15 Grand for VietNam Vets.

    October 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm | Reply
    • Palle sol Fuoco

      Inflation

      October 9, 2013 at 1:21 am | Reply
      • George

        They paid $ 10K in WW II and still $ 10K in the Vietnam War. Wonder what happened to inflation during those times.

        October 9, 2013 at 9:20 am |
  34. Up in smoke

    If Obama gives in to these demands, he's condeming all future Presidents the same fate. I've no doubt the repubs will move quickly to correct the situation addressed in this article; after all, they don't want to appear to be unreasonable! Many tea party zealots were all over the tv crowing that the shutdown wouldn't be so bad. Can you hear the people now???

    October 8, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Reply
    • George patton

      Hopefully, next time the people will know better than to vote for all these right-wing nut jobs (Republicans and Conservative Democrats). It appears that they shot themselves in the foot this time!!!

      October 8, 2013 at 7:26 pm | Reply
    • joeys

      someone should start a fund for the ones killed that aren't being funded by the gov. i'm sure the money would be raised in no time. i understand the rep. sent a bill to the senate to fund this item but harry reid would not bring it a vote.
      joeys

      October 8, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Reply
      • Caitlin

        Here is a fundraising page for the family of LCpl Collins, USMC. https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/3cF5e?utm_campaign=donation-thankyou&utm_medium=email&utm_source=10-2013
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        October 9, 2013 at 8:31 am |
  35. AConservativeEdge

    Reblogged this on AConservativeEdge.

    October 8, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Reply
  36. Jim37015

    Its already been announced they'll get their benefits. It was in already covered by the Republicans and Obama signed off on it a while back. All military will be paid. THe Dems running this show chose to pull another one of theie "lets make it as painful on the American people and blame the Rupublicans" stances on it. Like roping off the roads to parks and posting armed guards. These Dems and Obama isn't the good friend they pretend to be.

    October 8, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  37. fed up

    All these dead soldiers, and absolutely nothing to show for it, especially the 45 hundred that died in Iraq, thanks to Bush. 5 million dollars spent on Assad's trial at Ft Hood by the Army, which included continuing Assad's pay, that was 3 hundred thousand dollars. Families of the 13 dead soldiers, and the soldiers injured get nothing, while the Army continues to pay a murderer, then the Army called this an on the job shooting, to cheat survivors of much needed benefit money. Our country is now, an official stinking sewer.

    October 8, 2013 at 6:34 pm | Reply
    • FEDup

      That's right. The heck with innocent until proven guilty. He doesn't deserve a trial or any other rights. Matter of fact , suspected criminal does. Guilty and move on. That's what makes this country great......smh. BTW, as unfortunate as it is, the law requires the Army to continue to pay him and most other military personnel in pretrial status. Again, smh.

      October 8, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Reply
  38. jj

    The American people are with you President Obama. I hope Boehner accepts your invitation to speak with you soon. I am sorry about the bad things happening to every segment of the American population, military families included. Lay this disaster at the feet of the Tea Party, who deliberately caused the panic, fear, and confusion. Remember. Vote Democratic.

    October 8, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
    • Ron

      I was with President Obama right to the point he has allowed our military to be KIA and refusing their death benefits.

      Man up Obama; you are the CinC; act like it

      October 8, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Reply
  39. FEDup

    As a disabled vet and current DoD civilian I believe it is time to treat the entire group as we would children. If you can't decide as a group, we will. Everyone out and we replace you with those that can. Party affiliations aside, they are ALL to blame. Produce a budget, Something that hasn't been done in 5 years? Yes. They are all at fault. They failed in their role as leaders.

    October 8, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Reply
    • Random

      agreed

      October 8, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Reply
    • ToLate

      This is the first sane comment I have read... agreed, they are ALL to blame.

      October 9, 2013 at 8:26 am | Reply
      • susan maddern

        I agree big time!

        October 9, 2013 at 8:41 am |
  40. syekiM

    Loss of the death benefit for a military family is NOT a challenge!!! It is a slap in the face of all Americans from REPUBLICANS who caused this situation. If you didn't believe how inconsiderate & unsympathetic repubs are/have been to average folks, BELIEVE it now!! Vote them ALL out of office!

    October 8, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Reply
    • Jason

      This isn't about Republicans or Democrats... It's about our leaders turning their backs on the people they swore to protect!!! Who gives a damn if they're Rep or Dem?? Are they hurting us?? YES!!! Stop thinking along party lines, and we need to get back to thinking on HUMAN lines... Al of our leaders that have served us up for sacrifice in whatever way (moral, financial, physical, etc...) should be taken out of office NOW!! The government shuts down, but the senators and congressmen keep getting paid? I even heard one of them say they have to support their family... What about the other families you're continuously screwing over? Do you mean to tell me they shouldn't have the same rights, to support their families, like our congressmen? Absolutely disgusting!! And then, to do this to the men and women in our Armed Forces, is even sicker. These men and women laid their lives on the line for us, and this is how they get treated... DISGUSTING!!! And yes, I am a vet of the Army. I've seen our government do some disturbing things... I even watched a convicted rapist walk out of court free, after conviction by a court martial... Stop sacrificing our people, especially the ones who already risk themselves for us!! God bless our men and women in the Armed Forces forever!!!!

      October 8, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Reply
      • RetArmyWife

        Makes me ill to even watch those idiots on the news anymore. Washington needs an enema! Fire every single one of them, Democrats and Republicans, and find some honest Joe's that live in the real world to run things. What ever happened to SERVING the American people?? If I refused to work as a team player for my employer, they would fire me on the spot. What rules have they set for themselves that exempt them from abiding by what the rest of us have to? Disgusting...

        October 8, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
      • mphnascar

        Amen!

        October 8, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
  41. teapartysucks

    60 morons and the Speaker of the House will not let them lose as they are the only hope the Republican Party has left in this nation to remain relevant. Vote em all out at term and put anyone in that gives a darn about the US and not a polittcal party that will be a footnote in history within 6 years.

    October 8, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Reply
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    As an active duty army wife I am disgusted with the Government shut down. They continue to get paid to fight yet our soldiers families don't get money they were promised the day their husbands signed up. Our families sacrifice more than anyone can know and I can just imagine what the families are going through when they lose their loved one who supported them financially. We really are forgotten and allowed to be neglected. These families deserved to be taken care of.

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    October 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm | Reply
    • WebJohnson

      PLEASE TAKE YOUR MEDICATION.

      October 8, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Reply
  47. Allen

    It is selective pain prioritized by the politician and chief. Not all of us are fooled.

    October 8, 2013 at 4:52 pm | Reply
    • Gav

      Why did this story just get pulled from the front page of CNN?

      October 8, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Reply
      • ransy

        All the American People want is a government that listens. Ted Cruz listens and acts to help us. But Obama/Reed/Pelosi jusr know how to call people names and distort the facts.

        We need fiscal responsibility!

        Vote dumocrats out!

        October 8, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • cc47

      That "selective pain" talking point is nonsense. The government shuts down and bad things happen. There is a salmonella outbreak in California right now and no FDA employees to track and contain it. Did Obama do that too?

      We are a military family and we are doing without certain services on base. Spending not deemed essential security spending is not authorized and that include survivor benefits. Not because the President ordered it, but because that is what happens during a shutdown.

      October 8, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Reply
      • regenesis0

        There's a tropical storm about to hit Florida that's only 1 grade below a hurricane and 85% of FEMA employees have been furloughed.
        The government isn't supposed to shut down. It's not "wah wah, why isn't the government still working when we shut it down?"
        IT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE YOU SHUT IT DOWN. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT MEANT TO OPERATE IN THIS STATE. This isn't "reduced manpower, but still working," this is "some thing working, somethings not, and we hope nothing bad happens."
        Like, you know... a plane crash with no FAA safety inspectors, or a massive outbreak of food-borne illness while there are no FDA inspectors (what? in 18 states? And it might be drug-resistant?) or a tornado or any other disaster.

        There's this story of fantasy that the shut down government is like the "Night Shift," just fewer people still doing their jobs. That's not how it works.
        Better hope you're not overseas and have a passport problem, because embassies aren't going to be able to fix it until the shutdown is over! (A classmate had this happen to him when Gingrich shut things down the first time.)

        Did you know that the CDC isn't monitoring flu outbreaks during the shutdown? The whole "salmonella is in 18 states" headline came out when a guy in CA worried about its spread started looking up salmonella outbreaks in oter states and realized "Hey, this is pretty big!" The CDC is supposed to notice that stuff, not %^&* bloggers!

        October 8, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
      • regenesis0

        CORRECTION: It wasn't "some guy in California," it was Taylor Dobbs, a reporter for Vermont Public Radio. But again - that's supposed to be something the CDC tracks! Their personnel can't even gab about it and compare notes while furloughed; they've been locked out of their e-mail accounts.

        It's nice that the GOP is volunteering to pay for a WWII memorial to be opened, it really is!
        But how about paying for something that really MATTERS. Like food inspectors, or having the FAA inspect our planes? OR NOT INTERRUPTING CANCER STUDIES MIDWAY THROUGH?!
        I feel sorry for those veterans too, but some things are more important than their right to salute at a statue!

        EVERYBODY. SUCKS.

        October 8, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
  48. ransy

    Obama/Reed dumocrats should sign the bills that Boener Republicans passed funding this! Tell Obama to stop the immature tantrums and negotiate! 9 trillion when Obama took office, now 17 trillion and he wants more debt!

    October 8, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Reply
    • cc47

      Boehner should put the clean CR up for a vote.

      October 8, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Reply
  49. bob

    this is ridiculous. the government is shut down. the ONLY things that are supposed to be running right now are activities important to national security and services to protect life and property. death benefits and free airfare do NOT fall under these categories. if congress wants to play politics and not fund the operation of the government – then dont fund the operation of the government. dont weasle out and try and define all sorts of non essential services as something they are not.

    October 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Reply
    • Rey

      So, are you saying that this pay for fallen soldiers is not essential? I just want clarification.

      October 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm | Reply
      • meyati

        I guess Bob has never experienced death. You don't need to serve to understand death. Before anybody says that I'm ignoring the issue of those that serve, my son is a 100% disabled vet, and he followed the family tradition of service. Ft. Riley was the family home from the end of the Civil War to the Korean War. My generation and younger joined the sea services.

        October 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
      • bob

        of course it is unessential. it is the right thing to do, but it is not essential to national security.

        October 8, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
      • regenesis0

        As compared to what? Cancer studies whose interruption will derail years of life-saving research?
        They're already dead. There are things we could fund that would save lives. Like FDA inspectors.
        (Statistically at least 2-3 of those 250 people with salmonella are gonna die. More if it's the drug-resistant kind like some people think.)

        So stop pretending this shutdown hasn't killed people. It's already begun and the numbers are just going up from here.
        And yeah, it kills me to make the choice... but I prioritize saving the living over flying the families of the dead to a funeral. I feel terrible, but that's my call.

        October 8, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
    • kottmyer

      Absolutely right. The only people who should be working in the shutdown agencies are those essential to protection of life and national security. Bringing home soldiers killed in action, while excruciatingly sad, does NOT fall into those categories.

      Listen folks - This is what the federal government does. If it's not funded it goes away, and then you don't get it, no matter what pain it causes. That's fiscal reality. And we know the GOP is all about fiscal reality.

      The Tea Party wanted a shutdown - they got one. And now they're whining about the vets and national parks and the salmonella and FEMA and NIH and god knows what else. You want them all back? Real simple. It's called a clean CR, so that those services can be paid for. Let the House vote.

      October 8, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Reply
      • regenesis0

        We furloughed 70% of the US's intelligence agents and we're fighting over whether or not the WWII memorial should stay open.
        Failed State.

        October 8, 2013 at 8:19 pm |
  50. mbryce

    As a combat vet, I am both disgusted and ashamed by the lack of integrity displayed by the entire political 'leadership' in this country. It seems to me an imperative that we remove, forcibly if neccesary, every single one of them and start fresh. No more career politicians, no more special interest toadies, no more traitors to the American dream.
    It is OUR country, We The People, and to be held hostage by elitist old men is shameful.

    October 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Reply
    • Lily

      I would actually prefer to chuck the party system altogether. It's become a liability. I think we need to have individual people run on thier own individual platforms that reflect what they truly believe is best for the country. I think this could work if there was absolute transparency on who their backers were. We could have a primary where the top 3 are selected to have a runoff for the office. 3 instead of 2 choices helps prevent polarization and ties.

      October 8, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Reply
      • Donna

        That would be called a dictatorship. Rarely is a dictator is benevolent.

        October 8, 2013 at 9:34 pm |
  51. TM

    Any bill to restore this benefit will have an amendment attached to it to try and defund the ACA. Count on it.

    October 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Reply
  52. Lily

    Time for the Republican party to die out. They have allowed themselves to be taken over by selfish, narcissistic nut jobs that only care about their own agenda. Since people are starting to ditch the GOP in droves, let the crazies have what's left of it and sane conservatives can start a new, more moderate party without them.

    October 8, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Reply
    • meyati

      You should have seen a Move On America Email that I just received. They don't seem to give a tinker's darn about the current situation or about any suffering by anybody. They say this makes it look like the House will be open to Democrats in 2014, and they wanted a $3.00 donation. I'm an embarrassed Democrat. Maybe you get Move On and think this shut down and the possible government default is a good thing. Shame on you. Yeah, the Republicans aren't voting and talking, but neither are Obama and Reid. We voted Obama President- not king.

      October 8, 2013 at 4:47 pm | Reply
  53. dnokc

    If the administration refuses to help ill children...what makes you think they care about deceased vets? Shameful...but true!

    October 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Reply
  54. Aerin

    republicans want to cherry pick what to fund. Just fund the government!

    We'll vote you all out in 2014 anyway.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Reply
  55. mello rosenstein

    Here's a solution. Bring our soldiers home. That will serve two purposes. One, we'll save some money, and two, the lives of these fine young people will not have been wasted on some old men's war.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Reply
    • sami

      it's good Idea, but have you forgotten that US has huge responsibility so as to manage in each corner of the world as well?

      October 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Reply
    • Lily

      I agree with that completely!

      October 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm | Reply
  56. blue max

    the voters should punish the GOP and teach them a lesson they will never forget. Holding vets hostage is completley outragious.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Reply
    • meyati

      The DOD is under the supervision of Obama and his appointees. Last week it was pointed out that the commissaries-military grocery stores – are shut down. Some bases are remote where families have to travel long distances to a civilian grocery stores, or bases are overseas, where most enlisted families cannot afford the local prices. It's rehensible that military families are going through this night mare, when their sponsor is killed. This is the first time that the grocery stores and travel because of a death or injury to a military person has been denied or hindered. Congress is not responsible. It on the President and his administration- and I am a Democrat. Go Navy–

      October 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Reply
  57. Tigas

    The Obsma Shutdown hasn't stopped the Obama Regime from opening up the National Mall in DC from preparing for a criminal immigration rally.
    Just think, brave service people who gave their lives are getting screwed while people who entered the country get special treatment.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Reply
  58. orrball

    Only one side won't talk and over & over the say it?

    October 8, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Reply
  59. ali

    just totally disgraceful, politicians should all be ashamed of themselves!

    October 8, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Reply
    • LC6624

      Where is the outrage of these same people over the victims of Fort Hood shooter not getting any benefits or do you just selective which "dead military" get the benefits. Where is your outrage for the Senate not passing the bill for the military, or for the parks to be open etc. Where is all the outrage on Fast & Furious and trying to coverup and not allowing the whistleblower's book to be printed, what about the government having more guards keeping the WWII people out of the "Open Air" memorial than they had guarding the ambassadors in Benghazi. Where is all the outrage for the $17 trillion in debt with 8 Trillion being that of Obama in half the time it took Bush and he is still wanting it raise and don't blame it on Bush because Bush inherited a recession from Clinton which everyone tends to forget.

      October 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Reply
      • Rey

        I'm sure you can come up with a million things to be "outraged" about. But this is different. These benefits keep service members like myself confident that my family will be taken care of if I don't come home. So yes this is an outrage. I do not think anyone here is selectively being outraged, just expressing that there are certain things that should be protected at all cost. Keeping soldiers mental state as sharp as possible so that you can be on here complaining about what the government is doing or not doing right is a priority. So reflect before you write.

        October 8, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
      • GAM

        So when Bush left all his messes like Iraq were automatically cleaned up and no longer drained the government?? Are you saying the money Obama was forced to spend to keep the economy from crashing in the first MONTHS of his term was his fault? You, sir, have a very narrow and naive way of looking at how past decisions made by former Presidents and Congresses have forced this President to take many costly actions he likely would have preferred not to do. Perhaps you would have preferred a Greater Depression to a Great Recession.

        October 10, 2013 at 3:02 am |
  60. Gav

    Interesting, the president's golf course remains open. The President needs to lead and quit casting blame. All sides need to come together and be serious about solving serious issues.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Reply
    • Grammy

      Interesting. The gym for congressional members also stays open. It seems to me the congressional leaders need to be trying to clear up this mess they created. So what is your point ?

      October 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm | Reply
      • GAM

        The elite must keep their good looks so they can get re-elected. Perhaps they should forego some of their handsome retirement and medical plans and join Social Security and buy their own medical coverage on the open market. They are NOT in touch with reality!

        October 10, 2013 at 3:13 am |
  61. Cyberhackster

    But the welfare checks will always be there--

    October 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Reply
    • Donna

      Maybe.

      October 8, 2013 at 9:36 pm | Reply
  62. Maxie Ellison

    There appears to be enough votes in the House to approve legislation to reopen the federal government, according to a CNN survey of House members, but this doesn't mean a vote will happen soon, because Republicans have not indicated a willingness to try to force Speaker John Boehner to bring a continuing resolution to the floor for a vote.

    All 200 Democrats and 17 Republicans support passing a continuing resolution with no strings attached that would reopen the government, which has been partially closed in a bitter dispute between Republicans and Democrats. The number 217 is significant in that it is the minimum needed for the measure to win approval in the House.

    They have had enough votes for a week but Boehner will not bring it up for a vote because he is afraid the TEA PARTY will cost him his job as speaker

    October 8, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Reply
  63. holly86

    Regardless of what's going on in Washington, or what "side" you're on, this is REPREHENSIBLE. Nothing that affects our military personnel should EVER be cut off. They fight for US, and they don't deserve it. Period.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Reply
    • meyati

      Well said Holly. Many bases are log distances from civilian grocery stores, but the commissaries are shut down. Congress passed a bill that the military be supported. How is the military being supported when some families are unable to buy groceries? How is the military being supported when they can't receive the legal funding necessary when the military sponsor is killed in action? Blame Obama and his administration. I've never seen the commissaries closed before. Once my husband's pay records were lost for 6 months- and Texaco allowed us to charge gas and car repairs until we got paid. They didn't even charge us interest. I can't imagine that today-so it's more important to have a Commander -in-Chief that cares for those that go into harm's way, following his orders.

      October 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Reply
      • Donna

        I'm with you 100%!

        October 8, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
      • ShiverMeTimbers

        I am with you.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:21 am |
    • Tired of being a federal civilian employee

      The civilian employees that work for and support the military are under constant abuse from the current Politicians.

      Our pay has been frozen despite inflation, furloughed for a 20% pay cut in a way we couldn't use our vacation time to make up for the pay loss, and also in a way to avoid us being allowed to draw un-employment.
      All purposely to "make us feel the pain".
      Now furloughed for half a pay period, so we'll get half a pay check, all the while the politicians are still getting paid.
      The focus on the military to get paid is great!
      Just don't forget who supports the military on a daily basis, the civilian work force.
      I appreciate all the businesses advertising to support the military with loans, payment delays, and late payment forgiveness.
      Unfortunately not many are providing those benefits to those of us who are DOD employees.

      October 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm | Reply
      • RobC

        You are breaking my heart. I work in the private sector for one of the largest tech companies in the world and have not seen a raise since Obama was voted in. You work for me and if I do not get a raise, neither do you.

        October 9, 2013 at 8:44 am |
  64. jzaks

    They ought to take every politician in Washington and send them to fight in Afghanistan. Bunch of worthless blowhards.

    October 8, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Reply
    • military mom x2

      agreed 10000%

      October 8, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Reply
    • bob

      nah. a flight to gitmo and waterboard them till they pass a budget

      October 8, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  65. Random

    I think its time Americans stood together and start finding ways to make it in the politicians personal interest to stop holding our country hostage. Really, that is what it will take. They have had enough time to sort it out and nothing.

    October 8, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Reply

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